I had the same problem as you with the engine. The fuel pump was not working. I opened the fuse box, took the fuse out and put it back in again. The fuel pump worked again. It was like there was a bad contact on the fuse. Good luck, greetings from Serbia
I was in Robinson yesterday looking at these bikes they look great and have absolutely everything on them and although they are very well priced i cannot ignore the depreciation that will occur after a few years of owning it.
I’m worried about buying this bike for one reason only. Exactly the problems you’ve been experiencing. We need to go back to the dealership and be confident they understand the product they’ve sold us. Unfortunately even major manufacturers often have dealerships that know very little about the bikes they sell us !! Hope you can find the help you need. 🤞🤞🤞
I've been able to attach a small BT OBDII scanner and read DTCs and monitor systems while running. Did have it throw an engine management system problem, non standard codes. Did not have the burbling or rough run issue though. Cleared the codes, about 750KM ago, no issues since. Feel free to message for more info on the OBD setup. (Device snd App - android based)
Hi, thanks for trying. All seems to well after the 4.7 update. Ill have to rely on the on board diagnostic screen for the foreseeable future. Cheers James @erikflickinger1828
Agreed, they are following a current trend of releasing unfinished consumer goods for sale in the hope people buy them, do the r&d for them and update them as they go. In a few years time these bikes will be great but at the moment I'll be sticking with Honda and Yamaha. Motogb are awful, when I made the mistake of buying a new Benelli I had to wait 6 months for a fairing panel that was damaged before I'd buy the bloody thing.
@oldngreybmx5573 I agree, there's going to be teething troubles but at the price point I will bear with them for the foreseeable future. Theses small problems I'm having are nothing compared the trouble I had with my 'flagship' BMW. Is suppose I'm getting a good taste of both ends of the market.
Hi, the engine light did come on again but I've not had time to get it back to the dealer yet. I'm going to put the latest software update on it today in the thin hope it will correct the issue. If it doesn't it will be going back in. I'll make a video about it all. Cheers James
Dealers don't have the skillset for curveball issues. Best get someone out to it who's got proficient diagnostic abilities. For my penny's worth, if battery light is coming on, checking charging system is first port of call and all electrical connectors in that area. Good luck!
Cheers, yes that makes sense. It's going back in and left with them until they sort it. It could be the throttle position sensor. Other voge owners and I believe some bmw owners are having the same issue! James
I know this is probably a daft suggestion, but you mentioned the French dealers appear to be more up to date with the software on Voge bikes. Do you think on your next trip to France it maybe worth getting the bike serviced at a French Voge dealer?
I don't think thats a daft suggestion, it's actually a good one, what is daft is that it's even a consideration due to the poor support for these bikes.
@@jameswalton8532 I know the UA-camr ‘Nathan the postman’ rode a brand new Rieju 500 to Spain, where a local Rieju dealer was quite happy to do the 1st service on his bike.
Too much tech on bikes these days , its like riding an effing laptop. I'd only trust a Japanese bike with all that on it, for now I'll stick with my 1200 bandit and vfr800. Both will last forever.
@jameswalton8532 A novram is a non volatile random access memory where information is written to and should not be erased, this is separate from the part of the memory where the vehicle software is programed to in the electronic control module. I will probably have got this back to front hopefully others will correct me. GB moto had a huge stand at the nec so many different models no wonder they are struggling to support dealers.
You're right, if you press and hold the navigation button for 2 seconds, it takes you to a list of fault codes, if there are any. Mine is currently showing no faults so I'm happy for now👍
These bikes (regardless of where there made) are priced cheap because they are cheap bikes, there's no network of dealers that can help if something goes wrong. There's plenty of videos about how the vogue is half the price of the crf but let's see how that helps when your engine management plays up in Morocco. They look the business, they are priced very well but ultimately they are buggy and unfinished with no real practical way of sorting them out in a hurry. On a side note they've done you no favours at all with the mileage reset, unless you declare it every time it goes for an mot (providing it makes it to its 3rd birthday) you're being dishonest.
@oldngreybmx5573 up until this bike I only had BMW GS's, 4 of them. The last one being a GSA TE, top spec 21k bike. In June this year I was on the isle of arran and hit a pot hole on the main road. The suspension didn't like it and put the bike into limp mode. I had to be recovered back to Lancashire and it cost £1400 to have the bike put right. This was after £1600 the year before for the rear suspension that left me stranded in Wales. The argument that anything Chinese is rubbish is folly. I'll take an engine warning light all day long before I go back to established brands. Cheers James
@jameswalton8532 I'm not saying they're rubbish (or Chinese) I'm saying they are unfinished. The crf wouldn't have let you down like the BMW did. My point is the vogues, Benelli, kove ect will be very good for the price but they are cheap because loncin ect are trying to expand faster than they can develop a good machine.
Hi i watched a utuber recently who a' bit long winded" but he did a update on his 900 improving throttle responses wonder if that might help.....sorry cant remember his ch name ....ps ive had new versys 650 that showed eml....and yamaha tracer 700 both Japanese bikes so dont think chinese bikes any diff .. .im bit concerned its the modern fuel upsetting lambda sensors but hope all good for you....
@colinharrison5501 probably! Ironically I'm going through the same problem with my partners audi TT. It's not a 'chinese' thing it's just another 1st world problem 👍
@WyreForestBiker Assembly in Pakistan In the past, local companies in Karachi, Pakistan, assembled Triumph motorcycles. These companies included Universal, Polad, and Lotia.  Triumph factories Triumph motorcycles are currently made in factories around the world, including two factories in Hinckley, UK, three factories in Chonburi, Thailand, and one in Manaus, Brazil. Great British marque
On the positive side.....you now have an extremely low mileage bike...🤪 I think its alwys best to wait a year on new release bikes... Allow time for these types of issues to be ironed out.
@nationalinterest1 that's a fair point but I suppose someone's got to be the guinea pig! So far this issue is not big enough to cause me any regrets. Apart from this warning light the bike has been incredible
In my experience I see a lot of people complain online about how ridiculously unreliable and vulnerable to theft Range Rovers are, those being cars between £40k to well over £100k. I think in the past you used to "get what you pay for" but nowadays I think "you get what they're able to get away with". It seems few manufacturers take pride in anything over than their profit margins these days.
Too much tech, too many electronics and too many sensors. Give me a proper bike with an actual fucking dial speedo. Sick of these lcd screens on all these new bikes.
Ooooooops sorry James it was actually your vid I watched because my mate has just bought a DS 900 I've a DS525 and well pleased ...apologies again cheers...
@DavidSkidmore-e5t 🤣🤣🤣 I'll try to keep my videos a bit shorter. It was a bit long winded but unfortunately the whole process was a nightmare to figure out!
@glyncoates8253 I understand the snobbery surrounding Chinese branded bikes but it's so naive to mention it when so many established European bikes are built in China.
@@jameswalton8532 Needed to take the front wheel off my wife’s 300 gts vesper guess what on the casting was made in china . So how many components from the iconic Italian 🇮🇹 brand are made in china 🤦♂️
@glyncoates8253 I have lived and worked in China for 12 years. You can find a wide range of products there with quality levels ranging from extremely bad to extremely good. However, there is indeed a Chinese cultural component to be acknowledged. They are super fast in developing products, and they launch them without finishing and testing them for months/years. They expect to get feedback from consumers to make the products better. The software for the VOGE DS 900 X might be a good example. 4.7 needed time to develop, it is already much better than the 4.3 which my VOGE DS 900 X was delivered with. And we will find more aspects of this motorcycle, which are not perfect. But, that is fine with me. I love to ride it, love the design, and since I have been to Chongqing (where Loncin is located, by the way a 35 million people city, that very few people in the West have ever heard of), it incorporates a touch of fascinating China into my daily life. @jameswalton8532: Thanks for sharing your impressions and projects with us. I especially love this honest approach with the openness to dig into a topic and then to work on a good outcome.
I had the same problem as you with the engine. The fuel pump was not working. I opened the fuse box, took the fuse out and put it back in again. The fuel pump worked again. It was like there was a bad contact on the fuse. Good luck, greetings from Serbia
Thanks for the advice, I'll give it a try!
Ah, same thing happened with Fantic 500s, bad batch of fuel pumps.
I was in Robinson yesterday looking at these bikes they look great and have absolutely everything on them and although they are very well priced i cannot ignore the depreciation that will occur after a few years of owning it.
So you would rather buy a new 1300gs and loose 10 to 14k over 5 years, this might loose 1k per year
Have a look at motechrevolution channel, he gives a informative insight into depreciation values of these bike's
I’m worried about buying this bike for one reason only. Exactly the problems you’ve been experiencing. We need to go back to the dealership and be confident they understand the product they’ve sold us. Unfortunately even major manufacturers often have dealerships that know very little about the bikes they sell us !! Hope you can find the help you need. 🤞🤞🤞
Thanks. I'm hoping these are just teething troubles' and things will get sorted🤞
I've been able to attach a small BT OBDII scanner and read DTCs and monitor systems while running.
Did have it throw an engine management system problem, non standard codes. Did not have the burbling or rough run issue though.
Cleared the codes, about 750KM ago, no issues since.
Feel free to message for more info on the OBD setup. (Device snd App - android based)
@erikflickinger1828 hi, that's interesting, please let me know which scanner you used. Thanks James
@@jameswalton8532well I tried to reply but apparently it didn't like my reply?
Hi, thanks for trying. All seems to well after the 4.7 update. Ill have to rely on the on board diagnostic screen for the foreseeable future. Cheers James @erikflickinger1828
Thanks for sharing i guess you'll have to run it in again 😁
@@Beeds5 😉👍
This is one of reasons why I stay with Suzuki's.Give the Chinese a few more years to sort this sort of thing out and they will be very competitive.
Agreed, they are following a current trend of releasing unfinished consumer goods for sale in the hope people buy them, do the r&d for them and update them as they go. In a few years time these bikes will be great but at the moment I'll be sticking with Honda and Yamaha. Motogb are awful, when I made the mistake of buying a new Benelli I had to wait 6 months for a fairing panel that was damaged before I'd buy the bloody thing.
@oldngreybmx5573 I agree, there's going to be teething troubles but at the price point I will bear with them for the foreseeable future. Theses small problems I'm having are nothing compared the trouble I had with my 'flagship' BMW. Is suppose I'm getting a good taste of both ends of the market.
Wouldn't buy Chinese I've looked at the bikes and there still way off Japanese and triumph bikes and then there's the ethical side on top.
@terrybrooks7140 Well,you won't be buying British or America bikes either, if ethics are your thing.
I wonder where terrybrooks phone was made🤔🤔@@checker3694
Is this bike basiclly a old BMW F850 GS as a lot of parts engine/forks/ headset frame and seat look the same
Hello! Do you have any news on the engine problem? Did the error appear again?
Hi, the engine light did come on again but I've not had time to get it back to the dealer yet. I'm going to put the latest software update on it today in the thin hope it will correct the issue. If it doesn't it will be going back in. I'll make a video about it all.
Cheers James
@@jameswalton8532 We are looking forward to information. Good luck!
👍@@MrRomatte
Dealers don't have the skillset for curveball issues.
Best get someone out to it who's got proficient diagnostic abilities.
For my penny's worth, if battery light is coming on, checking charging system is first port of call and all electrical connectors in that area.
Good luck!
Cheers, yes that makes sense. It's going back in and left with them until they sort it. It could be the throttle position sensor. Other voge owners and I believe some bmw owners are having the same issue!
James
One more thing, the bluetooth enable tick is a 4.4 software bug. This will be fixed with a software update.
@@AleksandarDragutinovic I hope so 🤞
Sounds like you need a different dealer, if a check engine light is staying on, you have a stored fault code, nothing new with main dealers.
Hi, the feeling I'm getting is that all the dealers near to me haven't got a clue. I think it will be some time before they catch up🤬🤬
I know this is probably a daft suggestion, but you mentioned the French dealers appear to be more up to date with the software on Voge bikes. Do you think on your next trip to France it maybe worth getting the bike serviced at a French Voge dealer?
I don't think thats a daft suggestion, it's actually a good one, what is daft is that it's even a consideration due to the poor support for these bikes.
@wozza59 I thought about as I was in France last week on it. There's a voge dealer in calais but the ferry times were to early to catch them open.
@@jameswalton8532 I know the UA-camr ‘Nathan the postman’ rode a brand new Rieju 500 to Spain, where a local Rieju dealer was quite happy to do the 1st service on his bike.
Have you done any software updates youself on the bike? Curious to know if you had 4.4 before you took it to Dealer?
@jimbossimrigs7961 hi, yes my bike came with version 4.2 and I did the update to 4.4 myself. The dealer wasn't concerned about the update!
Too much tech on bikes these days , its like riding an effing laptop. I'd only trust a Japanese bike with all that on it, for now I'll stick with my 1200 bandit and vfr800. Both will last forever.
Once you get problems it’s hard to trust it
@blowduke that's why I got rid of my b'mer!!
Hope you find the fault soon and it’s an easy fix, my guess is they will find the tft unit memory is corrupted.
@Trevster65 hi, thanks. Now no faults showing on the bike and she's running well. Fingers crossed all will be well👍
It looks like the novram is corrupted and loosing parameters like the total mileage.
@@paulgibson490 hi, not sure what 'novram' is??
@jameswalton8532 A novram is a non volatile random access memory where information is written to and should not be erased, this is separate from the part of the memory where the vehicle software is programed to in the electronic control module. I will probably have got this back to front hopefully others will correct me. GB moto had a huge stand at the nec so many different models no wonder they are struggling to support dealers.
@paulgibson490 I'm gonna try and install the 4.7 software update today, fingers crossed this will correct any problems.
Cheers James
I am sure you can read fault codes on the tft screen.
@@stuartbrodie350 I've not heard that before, I'll give it a go👍
You're right, if you press and hold the navigation button for 2 seconds, it takes you to a list of fault codes, if there are any. Mine is currently showing no faults so I'm happy for now👍
These bikes (regardless of where there made) are priced cheap because they are cheap bikes, there's no network of dealers that can help if something goes wrong. There's plenty of videos about how the vogue is half the price of the crf but let's see how that helps when your engine management plays up in Morocco. They look the business, they are priced very well but ultimately they are buggy and unfinished with no real practical way of sorting them out in a hurry. On a side note they've done you no favours at all with the mileage reset, unless you declare it every time it goes for an mot (providing it makes it to its 3rd birthday) you're being dishonest.
BMW has the same niggling issues as does KTM. It’s not limited to Chinese bikes.
@oldngreybmx5573 up until this bike I only had BMW GS's, 4 of them. The last one being a GSA TE, top spec 21k bike. In June this year I was on the isle of arran and hit a pot hole on the main road. The suspension didn't like it and put the bike into limp mode. I had to be recovered back to Lancashire and it cost £1400 to have the bike put right. This was after £1600 the year before for the rear suspension that left me stranded in Wales. The argument that anything Chinese is rubbish is folly. I'll take an engine warning light all day long before I go back to established brands.
Cheers James
@jameswalton8532 I'm not saying they're rubbish (or Chinese) I'm saying they are unfinished. The crf wouldn't have let you down like the BMW did. My point is the vogues, Benelli, kove ect will be very good for the price but they are cheap because loncin ect are trying to expand faster than they can develop a good machine.
The engine is original BMW. So you have a big dealership wordwirde
Hi i watched a utuber recently who a' bit long winded" but he did a update on his 900 improving throttle responses wonder if that might help.....sorry cant remember his ch name ....ps ive had new versys 650 that showed eml....and yamaha tracer 700 both Japanese bikes so dont think chinese bikes any diff .. .im bit concerned its the modern fuel upsetting lambda sensors but hope all good for you....
sounds like they have just turned off the faults.
@colinharrison5501 probably! Ironically I'm going through the same problem with my partners audi TT. It's not a 'chinese' thing it's just another 1st world problem 👍
Pleased I bought triumph !
@philipwatson7883 my brothers triumph was built on Pakistan
@jameswalton8532 no it wasn't
@WyreForestBiker Assembly in Pakistan
In the past, local companies in Karachi, Pakistan, assembled Triumph motorcycles. These companies included Universal, Polad, and Lotia.

Triumph factories
Triumph motorcycles are currently made in factories around the world, including two factories in Hinckley, UK, three factories in Chonburi, Thailand, and one in Manaus, Brazil.
Great British marque
have ds525x was going to change to 900, not now will buy honda 750 now, say ,
@@colinharrison5501 has the525 given you problems, I hear they are very good
On the positive side.....you now have an extremely low mileage bike...🤪
I think its alwys best to wait a year on new release bikes... Allow time for these types of issues to be ironed out.
@nationalinterest1 that's a fair point but I suppose someone's got to be the guinea pig! So far this issue is not big enough to cause me any regrets. Apart from this warning light the bike has been incredible
In my experience.... In general, you get what you pay for.
Lots of people on UA-cam complaining of problems with the BMW 1300’s. I do agree with your point though.
In my experience I see a lot of people complain online about how ridiculously unreliable and vulnerable to theft Range Rovers are, those being cars between £40k to well over £100k. I think in the past you used to "get what you pay for" but nowadays I think "you get what they're able to get away with". It seems few manufacturers take pride in anything over than their profit margins these days.
@stevendavenport364 if this voge gives me half the trouble my BMW gave me ,I'll be happy!
@@jameswalton8532what exactly went wrong with your bmw?
Too much tech, too many electronics and too many sensors. Give me a proper bike with an actual fucking dial speedo. Sick of these lcd screens on all these new bikes.
I have two 80's bikes as well, they do have their plus points👍
Ooooooops sorry James it was actually your vid I watched because my mate has just bought a DS 900 I've a DS525 and well pleased ...apologies again cheers...
@DavidSkidmore-e5t 🤣🤣🤣 I'll try to keep my videos a bit shorter. It was a bit long winded but unfortunately the whole process was a nightmare to figure out!
@jameswalton8532 no I meant the process not your vid took a bit of doing that upload 🤣🤣🤣👍
@@DavidSkidmore-e5t 👍👍
Can you see the stupid speedo in the sunlight😂
You can buy a brand new v Suzuki v strom 800 for the same money.why by Chinese .
One word on this bike. CHINESE!
@glyncoates8253 I understand the snobbery surrounding Chinese branded bikes but it's so naive to mention it when so many established European bikes are built in China.
@@jameswalton8532
Needed to take the front wheel off my wife’s 300 gts vesper guess what on the casting was made in china .
So how many components from the iconic Italian 🇮🇹 brand are made in china 🤦♂️
@glyncoates8253 I have lived and worked in China for 12 years. You can find a wide range of products there with quality levels ranging from extremely bad to extremely good. However, there is indeed a Chinese cultural component to be acknowledged. They are super fast in developing products, and they launch them without finishing and testing them for months/years. They expect to get feedback from consumers to make the products better. The software for the VOGE DS 900 X might be a good example. 4.7 needed time to develop, it is already much better than the 4.3 which my VOGE DS 900 X was delivered with. And we will find more aspects of this motorcycle, which are not perfect. But, that is fine with me. I love to ride it, love the design, and since I have been to Chongqing (where Loncin is located, by the way a 35 million people city, that very few people in the West have ever heard of), it incorporates a touch of fascinating China into my daily life.
@jameswalton8532: Thanks for sharing your impressions and projects with us. I especially love this honest approach with the openness to dig into a topic and then to work on a good outcome.