Simon Jordan URGES McKenna & Maresca To TURN DOWN Chelsea & Man United! 😱🔥
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- What next for Chelsea and Manchester United? talkSPORT's Jim White and Simon Jordan have their say!
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Steve Cooper went from relegation to winning the championship play offs in less than a season, and ended up getting sacked anyway. Take the opportunity when it comes
omg. kindred thinking or what
He didn’t get offered any other job tho 😂
@@zaza_268 poor sod. I think it was his ganja eyes
3:26 😂🤣 Simon caught me off guard with that Merson impression! 😂🤣
Simons cockney impression. 🤣
1:40 Another impression.
same...so funny
Top man top clobber
Graham Potter proved that being a great coach isnt enough. I thought Pochettino had just got the team in gear they were looking dangerous
So if McKenna does a decent job with Ipswich next season is Simon saying there’ll be bigger jobs than United and Chelsea available to him?
They just talking bs any manger who has aspirations would take those jobe
@@ke5146as much as I would love to see mckenna or maresca turn down the chelsea job to stay at ipswich and leicester in the real world it aint likely to happen really is it m8🤔 mckenna was being linked with brighton recently aswell maybe thats an option for him I actually think that is a step up from ipswich aswell no disrespect to them🤔
When did big clubs like Chelsea and Man U began looking for 3rd class managers? Funny and sad how low standards have dropped for Chelsea and United, and Bayern as well
@@kolyxix nearly as funny as that paul merson impression from simon jordan in this video m8 of course he has to go 🤣 re the situation with managers is it not about timing tho to a point surely if as you say there aint a lot of good managers around at the moment I aint disagreeing with you btw then maybe these clubs should just keep the manager they have tho or had and wait for a really good manager🤔 the irony is of the three football clubs you mentioned only m utd aint sacked the manager as of yet as far as the the other two are concerned I do not understand why bayern sacked tuchel when they did especially if they are replacing him with kompany they obviouly thought they could get xabi alonso tho and it didnt happen as for chelsea I dont think poch deserved to be dispensed with anyway but it is chelsea we are talking about tho so nothing really surprises me where they are concerned🤣
He's saying McKenna will be ready then
Comparing Mckenna and Moresca to Amorim is ridiculous. Does he also forget clubs like Sporting, Benfica and Porto play in the Champions League?
Alf Ramsey and Bobby Robson both left Ipswich but only after years of loyal service and only to manage England. I contend they were both legendary managers and even greater than what McKenna is at the moment. McKenna should test himself with Ipswich in the Premiership before leaving at the first opportunity for clubs that won’t afford him any loyalty without success.
Brighton has a great track record with coaches and players though.
Maresca owes Leicester because they gave him his first job and he had the best team in the championship as for Mckenna he doesn't owe Ipswich because he wasn't expected to get promoted and he did. He however owes it to himself to prove he can keep Ipswich in the league with limited budget which will also increase his value as a manager, just look at Alonso.
And he got them back into the prem so whatever "owe" debt he had to them is paid, settle and closed
I disagree. Ipswich took a risk as they saw a potential good manager. They've nutured him and given him everything he asked for. Essentially it's been a good fit. This may not happen if he moves on. McKenna's style is to get workmanlike players who are not possibly the best but will give their all at all times. It's the team that counts, not expensive individuals
@@douglasmegson3739 my bad, I was referring to maresca but since you're talking about McKenna, come on back to back promotions, literally from a very weak division (league 1) in comparison to Premier league in 2 seasons without spending huge amounts of money. There has to be no debt between Ipswich and McKenna. I am not an Ipswich fan but if Ipswich fans think McKenna owes them because they gave him a chance then y'all are just greedy
Oh and I am talking about McKenna going to Brighton, that is perfect in my opinion but him going to Chelsea or MAN U is too big of a leap.
@@douglasmegson3739 Completely agree. Its the bonding of the team and the culture that can make great players. Not the 20 million signing that scores goals every now and then. What a waste!!!
The way Marescas been treated by Leicester fans he doesn't owe them anything.
Of course Mckenna was already a coach at Man United under Ole, and as I recall was ripped apart by fans and pundits for not being good enough/best in class and was hounded out of the club. He'd be mad to go back
Exactly this. He and his training methods were absolutely torn to shreds and mocked (school teacher springs to mind) by the players, the fans and the media. And this is the thanks we get 😂
Ipswich are not exactly a small club like everyone says they are.
The board at Ipswich will not get in the way of transfers unlike Chelsea and Man United.
Thank you Simon for noticing Ipswich are not a small club.
McKenna owes us Respect if nothing else apparently he has been talking with Chelsea longer than he would have us all believe it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth but sadly money always talks.
You're 100% correct Ipswich aren't a small club.......they aren't even that big.😂
Where did you hear he’s been talking to Chelsea a lot longer than he would have us all believe?!
Simon is right...Owners still have to pay severence after firing a manager. Potter still living off Chelsea fees and he can for the rest of his life if he wanted to
That's Chelsea fault for signing Potter on such a long contract. They then realised that 'the project' is not gonna work out and so need to give a big severance fee coz of the length of the initial contract.😄
@@minnielee3399And of course Chelsea gave Graham Potter all the time he needed to make The Project to work.
Owners don't need to fire a manager, just relieve him of his duties and put him on gardening leave while still paying him. If we wants to take another job, he has to had in his resignation, no severance payment required.
That Paul Merson impression 🤣🤣🤣
Arteta had no managerial experience, Arsenal went for him and he's doing well, so why couldn't McKenna, he's probably further down the managerial line than Arteta was?
He’s won sod all. How has he done well exactly?
In those two awfully run clubs?
Arteta get all his training/teaching from the GOAT manager
Arteta played the game at the highest level and so it was easier for Arsenal fans to trust him. Mckenna with all due respect, has accomplished nothing at the elite level.
@@zack7438and Nagelsman?
As an Ipswich fan, it’s frustrating that we are likely to have our manager poached before we even have a crack at the top table with him at the helm.
I have faith that Mark Ashton and the ownership have been succession planning for a while but either way it harms our chances next season before we even kick a ball.
it will be a shame if he leaves you but you shouldn't dislike him i he does take the job. If your chairman gives him some money to spend that might convince him to stay with you. Same goes for Leicester boss
why shouldn't they go, if Ipswich or Leicester are in the bottom 3 after christmas their is a pretty high chance they'll be sacked, loyalty goes both ways
Simon nailed it 100% 👏👏 McKenna has a chance to make history, but it looks like he might jump ship at the first opportunity, despite professing his adoration and love for Town two short weeks ago. I hope I’m wrong but not only will he have completed a double promotion in record time but if he leaves he’ll be demoted from hero to zero even quicker.
What nonsense. If these 2 were offered a higher profile position on twice current salary.......they'd be off before you can say "dollars for doughnuts"
Exactly, one bad job (potentially) isn't going to change anything for them except thier bank balances
Totally agree Chelsea and United will ruin any young manager with potential
u are in denial, any big club ruins any young manager with potential not just Chelsea and Utd especially if the big clubs are in transition but first they shouldnt go to any big club cus they not good enough for it
naaah
Every time Jim looks at his phone he's just surfing Grindr.
Potter is a good example. Jumping at the first opportunity. Not always the right move. 😊😊😊😊
ofc and Boehly looks like is dumb enough to make same mistake 2 times in a row
It was a job and he was paid a lot of money tbh. It's not like he won't be able to get another job. It didn't work for him at CFC but at least he got the experience.
I dont think chelsea, man u, bayern are getting any of there first 4 picks
I’m a Chelsea fan and out of decency for these two guys would urge them not to
You were a glory hunter and now you are bitter.
@@temperedglass1130 I disagree Chelsea aren't glory hunting we need a manager with experience who is capable of helping us win again a young manager is not the answer
@@temperedglass1130Only a delusional person will take the Chelsea job
Simon Jordan and danny Murphy are the best on talk sport
Ten Hag may as well stay, doesn't matter who takes the job, it's a poisoned chalice until they get rid of the wasters, sorry, players.
So true!
Yes Simon!!! If McKenna leaves Ipswich he will be making a foolish foolish mistake!! Keep what you have with Ipswich. Ply your trade with Ipswich, get better and better and better as a manager then move elsewhere. Cooper and Potter are utter fools for what they did. Kieran has something magical at Ipswich, if he carries on, Ipswich will become a stable prem club like Bournemouth, like Brentford. Please stay Kieran!!
As for Leicester "zero gratitude" City, they've sacked two managers who achieved miracles for them the moment that the bubble burst. So if I was Maresca and a bigger job came along I'd grab it with both hands.
Yeah Maresca realises what happened to his fellow countryman Ranieri.
Mc Kenna is daily losing fans at ipswich
To get promotion to the premiership and walk out is below the bar .
My suspicion is he’s had a big barny with Ashton and can’t wait to get away !
We’ll see
Tend to agree with you
McKenna & Maresca were hired to get promotion but that's not their end game - the first part of the job is a success but the road to success is more than just reaching the PL. What they 'owe' relates to their contract, how many years remain.
It’s not just the money on offer it’s the challenge and the profile. With all respect to Ipswich it wouldn’t be where I’d want to live compared to London, Brighton or Manchester. Whatever McKenna decides to do is ok by me. He doesn’t owe Ipswich anything, and the club will be compensated if he moves. However I’d say Chelsea and United could be a bad step at this stage. He has a great bond with his current team and may want to show how good they can be. The Brighton set up sounds,like the best option if he does want a move.
I also saw Merson talk about Xabi Alonso.... And thought it was also absolutely ridiculous 🤣🤣
Managing a London club, comes with far to much external noise and immediate entitled fan pressure and a small time window to succeed or its pain pain pain......if you need ,want and expect to be given time, patience to build something, then swerve.
If they are good enough, these opportunities will keep coming. Learn from lampard and Gerrard. Take your time and master your craft.
Didn't McKenna coach under Ole, Mourinho and Ragnick??
So why would we be looking at him to replace Ten Hag??
That would be insane
Wko keeps printing these things??
It just doesn't make sense
Chelsea should wait for the Xavi and Barca drama to settle. Xavi is the perfect perfect manager for our their project. Imagine enzo and Caicedo under Xavi😭😭
Xavi needs experence first but not at a big club, in this moment I dont think hes good enough for Chelsea or Barcelona
@@dorualex3092 His gotten a league title and his taken Barca to second place with 2, 17 year olds😭
@@dorualex3092 xavi would be great cause his managed a big club
@@JohnJonny-cb3ilI can win 1 league title in la liga with Barca. It’s not that hard with Barca or Madrid. Each steps out of the others way each season.
Enzo is a massive problem, mate. You will see next season when he back in the side. No coincidence we won 5 in row as soon as he was out of the side.
Simon speaks like an owner and that’s why he makes this show sooooo interesting. He also speaks so much complex common sense
i dont want any of them i want Tuchel or jose, conte. I dont think the 2 mentioned in the title can handle Chelsea. Btw I like how Jim mention Utd first then Chelsea he must be a Utd fan cus nobody in this world puts utd first then Chelsea unless u are a utd fan
I agree but want Conte as my number one choice but feel Thomas Frank would be a good option.
Simon is (Apparently) very close to the Chelsea owners.
Pure madness. The owners need to stamp their name behind the next coach choice! no hiding in the shadows
Lots of coach's get promoted nothing special about Kieran McKenna.
Why should they turn down the Big Pay day?
They will NEVER get an offer like this again. They will make more in 1 year with Chelsea than they would in an entire lifetime with any other club. They know they’re not worth it…..
Simon 💯 right. Jim as usual doing his job trying to hype everything up.
Didn't Ferguson reject offer from Arsenal or United in early 80s? It's up to managers to decide is the time right. Also, for some top clubs like Real or Barca it's not enough to win, you have to "win with style". I remember Real sacking Radomir Antic in early 90s even if they were top of the league because he didn't play "attractive football".
In fairness managers get fired all the time whether they have done a good job or not. Their fate is very much tied to player performance and I guarantee you there are managers who have maintained the same level of personal performance club to club with opposite outcomes.
Cooper stayed at forest and look how he was rewarded. :/ might as well take the money unless contracts are unbreakable :)
Absolutely spot on Simon - we as fans are in the main sick to death of agents fuelling gossip and innuendo which frankly for me has taken the gloss off our brilliant promotion. McKenna has spoken recently of looking forward to the challenge with our team, his legacy will undoubtedly be tarnished with our fans should he ‘abandon ship’
If we are honest..Mc Kenna was a coach at ManU at U18 level,while learning his trade..so,going back there as a Senior manager is not such a big deal.
YES THEY HAVE A CONTRACT WHICH, IF THEY HAVE ANY..................SHOULD BE HONOURED
Most likely scenrio is that Ipswich go straight back down. So he'll have that on is CV. Don't care how good a manager you are ,its very difficult to make the jump from championship to prem. Its a chasm. He's got them up 2 divisions. He's done his job and then some. I'd go to Brighton.
Quite a few of the older managers are a lot of aggro to employ. Some are not successful anymore. So there is a dearth of experienced successful managers to employ.
Hearing McKenna and Maresca have made changes to their career plans after hearing Simon Jordan’s expert opinion 😭
I don't find them less qualified than Potter. They're winners. They've superceded Lampard
It would be a massive gamble by both clubs as neither manager is proven at the highest level, especially as they both want Champions league and will have to compete with other teams with proven managers at that level. Bring it on
Mckenna is 38 ffs. He has 20+ years of management left.
He could have followed Eddie Howe or Xavi Alonso, but is going to follow in the footsteps of Frank Lampard and Steven Gerrard. Thought he was smart.
He started coaching at 24! Very well old in coaching! Do your research!!
@@darylsnell6799 xabi alonso is young also and managing a club like Leverkusen (ofc at Chelsea is much more pressure) and winning the bundesliga is not easy, tbh i am surprised that xabi managed to get results and Lampard and Gerrard no it means that he either is a good manager or it was luck involved also, dont forget that bayern munchen didnt had a good season with tuchel fired
He's had two good years and now people think he's the next Guardiola😅
Jordan spot on as per usual
Maresca makes a meal of getting the best team by a mile promoted and gets the Chelsea job? The tinpot Guardiola must have a brilliant agent.
Good point.They had a good squad and Maresca did what he should have done with the resources
Loyalty works both ways. Those clubs could easily sack them managers if they start tge season bad. Hard to turn big jobs at big clubs if you get offered
Being a footballer or a manager is a job. in any other industry, there is no true loyalty, provided one's position is good enough.
Ruben Amorim is a technician in football a top manager in the making for me he could go in a top 4 clubs he has all the qualities and talent to bring success to the club he has the potential to go all the way to the top with the right backing he had a interview with West Ham and someone leaked it and then said he only did it for the Liverpool job it didn’t take him long to work out Sullivan and Tim he was back on that plane and didn’t look back. He will be back soon in the premier League
Merseca has been poor, he just had the best players. McKenna has been brilliant.
leeds had the best squad. enzo has done an okay job
@@circle2867But Enzo's budget is almost 10 times more than McKenna's job!!! They are not even close! McKenna is clear!!!
@@circle2867No we didn't. Leicester did.
@@pabloescobear420 its close but i still say leeds had a better squad overall.
I hope everyone turns us down the chance to work under that board until the board realise their plan to only buy inexperienced players and managers and expect to compete with the top 3 is insanity. Who would want to be the next Lampard or Potter?
When they go for the big name they say that is a problem too
Ask Moyes about loyalty. The loyalty talk is nonsense. These clubs bin these managers off when it suits them. They have a small window so they need to follow their ambition.
Vincent Kompany may become the next Gary Neville in some ways.
I would question if the Chelsea owners are qualified to run a football club, apart from having the money to do. Their understanding of how football works two years in seems to be as sensible as playing in motorway traffic.
they dont they should have kept Poch, they sacked him cus was on 6th and not in a UCL spot, shameless
@@dorualex3092 I agree 💯, I'm not a fan of how Poch has made no effort to make a connection with the fan base, but totally deserved next season to make UCL.
They should stick to baseball
Not ruin our football clubs
As a chelsea fan i hope every manger turns them down and fans stop going to matches
Lets see how they get on with that
Jordan's point on the loyalty of good managers is flawed. Clubs sack underperforming managers; so outperforming managers should be able to do the same
Amorim has won 2 Portuguese leagues and cups with Sporting, the lesser of the big 3 in Portugal and he's in another cup final this week. Jim White trying to put him in the same category as two novices. He knocked Arsenal out of the europa league rd of 16 last year and came close to knocking them out of the champions league this year.
Why won’t McKenna to Brighton not mean he’s backing himself? Surely Brighton has the perfect resources and springboard and basic squad to come into, compared to an Ipswich who will surely struggle in the modern day PL?
I understand Simon's point of view, but unless we are the ones being offered just such an opportunity, it is hard to imagine not having our heads turned.
In an ideal World, Clubs would like to think loyalty plays a part in the final decision. However loyalty is a two way street which is often detrimental to any Manager who has a poor spell.
Jordan says they have to back themselves by staying at their respective clubs and develop there. This is not how the real world works, if you back yourself and are confident of course you’re going to go to another level as soon as you can, it’s called ambition. If they don’t then they’ll always going to ask what if. You don’t want to die not knowing what could have been in any walk of life. I say go for it and give it your best shot.
But unfair from Simon, they gave him his opportunity for sure, but he gave them back to back promotions, and probably £6m. I think he's repaid them.
"Middle aged failed football owner doesnt like managers being scouted by bigger clubs"
Simon is so spot on ! 👌
Jordan is correct.
These managers have got the respective clubs in the prem, but need to consolidate that position.
Can't just flit to another prem club for financial reasons because they have become the managerial flavour of the month.
Boards & fans of promoted clubs quickly forget what their managers have done for them when they get off to a bad start. So McKenna should take the Man Utd job, if offered. Merson is right. It may never come round again.
Hopefully Maresca stays🦊
Nah, he's going.
Simon is right. I don’t know what the fuss is about McKenna or people comparing Arteta’s move to Arsenal. Don’t compare Arsenal Board with Manchester United or Chelsea. Man U and Chelsea have the worst board in the world. They (Man U) don’t support managers and just bleed the club dry. Chelsea’s board don’t know what they are doing. Arsenal is a very well runned club. It is so disrespectful to Ten Hag. Two days to a final this is coming out. Like what do people think will be going through those players head. Imagine if Chelsea or United get McKenna and it turns out like lampard (who was good at Derby) or Graham Potter. Those clubs will be taken 3 years back
As a chelsea fan, 1000% agree with Simon this time around
How is Mckenna going to bring to the table with UTD that will be any different? Bear in mind he was a second to OLE managing almost the same set of terrible players
I’d rather have Tuchel at OT, he’ll definitely get rid of the deadwood in the team.
Have too agree with Simon on this subject
The fact Chelsea are happy to get rid of their manager despite them starting to play well, should put managers off going there, it’s going to be their 5th manager in 2 years
Easy for Jordan to sneer at the idea, but Mckenna is not an ex footballer with lots of money. He cannot turn down a life-changing contract from a huge club even if he's not ready. United should see him as gettable in a few years and look for someone more experienced in the meantime.
I honestly don’t know who Simon thinks he is at times!
Obviously McKenna's agent let it be known. As he should, to bid up his client's price.
I have been a Chelsea fan my whole life and I live in Ipswich.
This is the most exciting potential appointment we have ever made. I include Jose in that statement. Simon, Sir Alf Ramsey, Sir Bobby Robson, I have a feeling this guy will also have three letters in from of his name.
That's quite a sparkling endorsement!
As an Ipswich fan I kindly ask you stfu and stop letting everyone know how good he is. Keep it secret, keep it safe 🤫 🤐
Probably the smartest thing that fella has said in his life
Simon knows his footy. It nothing about boxing worth repeating
WELL I REMEMBER JORDAN LAUGHING AT ARSENAL WHEN THEY GAVE ARTETA THE JOB. HE SAID THAT ARTETA HAS NO EXPERIENCE AS A MANAGER. AND IT WAS LAUGHABLE. FAST FORWARD TO NOW. IT SHOWS THAT YOU DON'T KNOW AS MUCH AS YOU THINK YOU DO. MR.JORDAN 😏
If your a good enough manager and believe in yourself then why not take the job. Few months ago everyone was calling Chelsea sh*t, now everyone wants to cry about Poch getting sacked. Clearly not as bad as the media makes it out to be.
I wonder how much loyalty to his workers factored into Simon's thinking when he sold his phone shop to the highest bidder.
A lot of these players and managers are under NDA. Now think of these comment by these ppl.
"Van Haal told ETH not to go to MU as they are a commercial club."
"Thr owner doesn't care about the club " by CR7.
and now link these into
Paqueta and Tonali cases.
I just wish Simon Jordan could spells out what is on his mind.
I know he didn’t compare Amorin to McKenna 😆
Simon is evidently an experienced and successful businessman. If he gave a person a chance in his other businesses, and they were headhunted, would he have the same reaction? It's unfair to assume football people (to use Souness's term) should be held to a higher standard than in other professions. If a solicitor, teacher, construction worker, or civil engineer could seek a better opportunity, then i don't see why a football manager, coach, or player shouldn't.
Because in Football they sign a multi year correct and normal employee's have a contract that allows them give a notice period of a month/3 months either way. If they get a contract for three years they should honour that if the owner wants them out he has to pay the remainder of the contract.
Mckenna make same mistake as rooney lampard if leaves
They are nowhere near his level
Simon is talking about loyalty and decency, a very rare commodity in 2024…….
I'm sure that if Simon was doing well on local radio, helping that station grow, he'd turn down espn as a sports analyst in prime time.
Did the presenter compare Amorim to McKenna and Maresca?? Amorim is a league title winner with Sporting Lisbon 😂A Sporting Lisbon that finished 18 points ahead of Porto in the league - a Porto team that Arsenal only edged out on penalties - an Arsenal team that lost the premier league title by less than 3 points😂WTF is he talking about?
If Ipswich can sign Hutchinson, Lukaku, Santos, Chalobah, Fofana, Ziyech, Broja, Bergström, Anjorin and Sarr from Chelsea then McKenna should stay at Ipswich. They'd stay up.
What are you talking about Simon? It would be massive career mismanagement turning it down. What opportunities will arise bigger than United if he stays up with Ipswich next year? Endless list of managers have come up after doing well in the champ, done well in the prem and then dont get a sniff of any top job. Dyche, Frank, Cooper, Wilder etc etc. These top clubs dont come calling for promoted managers often. There is nothing to suggest Mckenna would get a top 4 club coming for him because it never happens to these managers coming up which is why everyone find the Kompany one so baffling. Thats only because of his name.
Yes and endless managers f the career up jumping ship at either club, I hope McKenna and Maresca say to them stick your money where the sun don't shine, why should they go to big clubs for one season just to get sack that ain't how football always work, you're delusional.
Neither of them should worry about missing the opportunity, stay with your promoted club and prove yourself Chelsea will be looking for another manager in a year and the chances are that Man U will be as well.
Welcome to crazy town and the merry go round.
They won’t want them both managers are not big club managers
Simon is 100% correct
Take the chance