@@mrgeringer natürlich seid ihr beide ausgewiesene MILITÄREXPERTEN und laßt euch nicht hinters Licht führen. NICHTS WISST IHR. Zum Glück seid ihr nicht intelligent und ungefährlich.
@@mrgeringer Es gibt Videodokumentationen über den Nürnberger Prozess gegen die Hauptkriegsverbrecher. Da wird gesagt, dass Speer nicht weniger Schuld hatte, als einige der zum Tode Verurteilten. Er war nur cleverer und hat sich besser verkauft. Zum Beispiel hat er behauptet, er selbst hätte ein Attentat auf Adolf Hitler geplant, um die Verbrechen zu beenden. Auch hat er die kollektive Schuld anerkannt, seine persönliche Schuld aber relativiert.
They were heroes and should have won. We can all see now who was the good guys. Had they won we would be living in paradise - instead we're getting ethnically replaced in our native homelands in Europe and men in wigs claim they are women. Everything they said - the mediacontrol, the banking ... everything is like they said.
When Speer was in prison, he produced by hand architectural drawings different houses, mansions, for some US officers and also for the US prison director E. Bird. Not only Andy Warhol , David Bowie was also fascinated about Speers monumentalism. Mick Jagger only wanted Leni Reifenstahl to produced the photo shoot with Bianca Jagger, he did not accept any other photographer. She was also invited to the Rolling Stones concerts
@@Raussl Well - a number of „stars“ got a screw loose, one or the other way. Most of them hardly get into contact with everyday folk - and because they are so rich and almost everyone around them depends on their money, they often don’t have anyone who will tell them something is a stupid idea. Leni Riefenstahl had been a remarkably skilled producer of propaganda - but she maintained until her death that she was simply „innocently documenting“ the Nazis - which is a brazen LIE! I watched a number of documentaries about her, and will say that I am not impressed with her character the least bit.
Fascinating differences between these two men. Speer being more relaxed, overseeing things. Dönitz, probably suffering from loss of hearing, more in defence. Protecting the statements he made decades earlier. More looking for reasons beyond him.
That has to do with upbringing and education. Speer comes from the wealthy, educated middle class and enjoyed a good humanistic upbringing. As a child and adolescent, he was often abroad. Döniz came from a Prussian civil servant family in These days usual short schooling as well as education in militarism and anti-bourgeoisie, anti-democracy, etc. I don't want to talk about experience abroad of him as it did not exist st all. Speer's experiences in Switzerland for exp.were restaurant visits and Döniz his experiences were coal picking from the "employer". So it happens that Döniz is intellectually not able to go through things differently.
@@jurijeckel4938 I'll bet ya the guy who's not "intellectually" up to your high standards, in his lifetime, forgot more than you'll ever know, in yours.
Karl donitz was protecting a secret : base 211 Antarctica. Where over 100 submarines the disappeared. The brains were Martin Bormann + Hans kammler. They offered the atomic bomb , rockets , jet reaction engines to the ennemy while smuggling "die glocke" to Antarctica through Argentina on the JU-390 #3.... The universe is electric. All physics post Charles Proteus Steinmetz is fake science. Gravity + centripetal acceleration are both the dielectric field. Electrodynamics is a forbidden science.
@@SG-ug9xj Your answer has nothing to do with what you're responding to, he wasn't attacking Dönitz making him small nor was he comparing Dönitz to himself but to Speer. You don't really seem to be able to understand that.
@@gauntr I understood what he meant. now you're telling me the same thing about me. keep it out of my eyes < --- I hope you can intellectually comprehend that statement.
These are interviews with men trying to save and protect their reputations. Do remember what regime they served. Other sources and evidence need to be taken into account.
I am actually glad there were still a few high ranking Nazis left like Speer whose lives were spared. Their personal recollections of the inner circle of power gave historians and the world valuable insights into the Nazi regime.
@@jankochanowski3252 Perspective is a valuable insight. Real conversations must be had. The accused must be investigated, and we must take that, as a society, and learn from it. Hate, even hate-of-hate, must subside if we are to continue and prevent these incidents from perpetually reoccurring. The death of tyrants may not yet quench the hurt, the hate, and scars that go from one generation to the next. Of course, its big talk coming from one who doesn't carry the awesome burden of the criminal, the accused, or the victim. The inexcusable egregious acts of the time is no doubt why it's still felt so intensely even today, and tomorrow.
Vieles wurde den Deutschen in die Schuhe geschoben, erinnert Euch nur an Katyn wo man die ganzen Offiziere erschlossen wurden vonStalin und seinen Schergen! Obwohl jeder Krieg ist grausam! Warum hält man nur Deutschland immer den Spiegel vor ?USA hat mehrere grausame Kriege angezettelt (Vietnam,Korea und Saudi-Arabien! Das ist alles normal?
@@peterhorak7542 This is a clear whataboutism. Yes, other countries have committed crimes against humanity, but that doesn’t diminish the atrocities committed in the third reich. Plus the scale and industrialized methods were relatively new. And the rest of the world weren’t (fully) aware of what Stalins regime was doing with his goelag system. I feel modern Germany is better of being aware of what happened during WW2, because else you will see what currently is happening in Russia. Where Stalin is regaining popularity and his crimes are being swept under the carpet. I do have to agree that modern Germans shouldn’t be held accountable for the crimes of there forefathers. 99.99 percent of the population was to young or not even born during the war. Only people 90 years or older can still be old enough to have been part of the atrocities. And even than hitler jugend can hardly be held accountable.
Irgendwie schade das es nicht mehr so viele hohe Tiere der nazis gibt nicht weil ich sie unterstütze sondern um zu lernen und zu sehen wie sie nach dem Krieg klarkommen finde solche Interviews sehr interessant
leider viele negative beispiele,gibt vom y kollektiv glaub ich auch noch ein interview mit nem hj ss soldaten der nichts bereut und alles leugnet bis heute
@@aaronkraft6205 ja hab ich auch gesehen... Im Prinzip natürlich alles hs aber halt trotzdem interessant wie die ideologie noch teilweise In deren Köpfen verankert ist bzw war
@@henrymoss8237 ja das stimmt,aber kannste ja auch mit anderen ideologien vergleichen. wissenschaft wird abgelehnt bzw ihre eigene errichtet und wenn möglich sogar mit gewalt ausgeübt oder verteidigt. Corona leugner lassen grüßen
Or maybe so as not to give the impression that Speer was treated differently in front of the world. If they made it easier for him... Either way, unlike those jitterbugs and psychos like Hess they wouldn't hang him with that charme. Glück gehabt🍀👍🏿
@@nassermj7671 okay my bad. English isn't my first language and I got it wrong. I thought "to ease his response" was meant that this would simplify the answering in German for Speer but it's not. I also assumed wrong because they were all charged at the same time and I overrated the fact that the Allies, especially the Americans, had top priority to maintain absolute equality at that defining moment in every sense. Even if indirectly, thanks for the correction.
@@tyronevaldez-kruger5313 "the allies, especially the Americans, had to top priority to maintain absolute equality"??? You've gotta be kidding me dude...
@@tyronevaldez-kruger5313 No, from my viewpoint, you got it right. Many WW2 era Germans whether Speer, or fighter pilots, soldiers, etc, could speak English by the 1970's and on when these interviews took place. Regardless, the interview was still often in German. Again, right or wrong, I simply made an assumption.
Doenitz sounds exactly how I imagined him to sound, but Speer's voice is almost suprisingly... calming? It definitely fits with the "good nazi" character that he played so often.
dönitz is hard of hearing. that's why he yells. that's why the interviewer yells. also, he is from berlin, wich is a much harder dialect, than south central germany were mannheim is. good example is the word "me" or "I" in hessen or rheinland pfalz it's pronounced "isch" (much like you would pronounce fish) while in berlin it's pronounced "icke". basically you have volker michalowski vs martin schneider. for reference: ua-cam.com/video/GmbLaEsTZDY/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/CQzcstTswHo/v-deo.html (the last one is michalowski. you might recognize him from inglorious basterds as the guy who celebrated in the bar prior to the shootout)
They didn't hang him because he was the only one that _repented_ .Don't know if there was a deal or Speer just got it right... He was extremely useful in the trial from that repented positions,basically becoming a accuser that confirmed all the accusations. Seriously, how naive can one be to believe that personal charisma saved Speer?
@@lrc9304 Ribbentrop was also very much an opportunist but Ribbentrop got the rope. Like I said,having a tier one Nazi playing the _repented_ part was very useful in the trial. There probably was a deal with the Americans. PS.If you look at how many second and third tier Nazis were in the post war West German administration you'll understand that this repeating _repented theme_ was a pragmatic way for the Americans to "rebuild" Germany with competent man that had a questionable past.You do need to refurbish them in some way and make them acceptable for the general public They only disappeared in the late 60s,early 70s.
Spear said he was guilty. Donitz when charged with sinking ships, and that made him a war criminal, told the prosecutors, "You did the exact same thing..." and the allies had.
@@evinchester7820 Not exactly. Speer said that he didn't know but as a member of the government should have known and for that reason assumed his share of responsibility.So he never admired guilt,just some _naive_ shared responsibility.He also turned on his Nazi "friends" and said that the trial is necessary. Donitz said something in the lines of "everything I did was in accordance to the rules of war" Complete BS in both causes.
Does anyone believe Speer? Every time I see him speak about his involvement, I'm always left with the feeling, that he is a cold, calculating person, knowing how to twist the truth.
If you read his latest biography the layer of veneer of a civilized, refined person is peeled off completely. He was every bit aware of the atrocities in the name of the third reich.
As a National Socialist I say that speer is the contrary to Arno Breker, a traitor, not a true honorable man. In the end goering was not a traitor but speer
Both were social climbers. Donitz was a little bit principled soldier who probably did not order to comit war crimes, but he knew very well what was going on. Speer at least admitted that he was a climber and knew what was going on during the war. He is more open and admitted that he used the situation and connection.
yeah, dönitz was a born prussian in the 19th century, his mother died when he was 4 and imedietly after finishing shool he joined the german empires marine. Different people born in completely different times.
well, as armaments minister he certainly must have had a big say over the allocation of all labor. But Germany was starved in total the last years. Except for Goering, most were short on food.
Whatever the reason may be, the result is a dehumanisation of the nazi regime which in my opinion is one of the reasons why neo-nazism still flourishes today.
@@axllbk ever thought about that the lies we're all hearing about all day long of how beautiful and peacfully a fully globalized multicultural world would be is going to fuel neonazism even more ?! In my opinion the unrealistic and ultra left Ideologies these days are the main reason for rising neonazism. Quasi as a natural counter- reaction
@@camzpras3435 Ten Years and Twenty Days. A very detailed account of his entire career and decisions. Like him or not, he was a very analytical, disciplined and ambitious mind. According to his own saying, his entire focus was his submarine fleet. He even lost both his sons at sea during WW2, the first in a submarine, the second in a boat raid. Today's admirals would have probably sent their offspring at the safest possible station instead of the middle of a conflict.
The ability to hide your true feelings and always say what your superiors wanted to hear was necessary to survive for the lower classes and to thrive for people in the top positions like both Dönitz and Speer. Both are using their own personal techniques of this in this interview. Be careful and distrust critically.
I think they merely had been exposed to lawyers using trick questions to lead them down the garden path into a swamp of manure. Likely they had seen this at Nuremberg. They had been interviewed before and knew what to expect.
To be fair, there are no recorded atrocities being ascribed to the German Navy 1939-45. Compare and contrast, the Royal Navy continued to blockade Germany for over seven months following the Armistice in November 1918. This likely caused the deaths of about 750,000 German civilians from shortages and starvation. To the victors, goes the history?
I feel like Admiral Doenitz is much more believable (and definitely cleaner) than Speer. Speer was a very charming person and incredibly smart, but he seemed like he thought of answers before the interview and could play the character of a good Nazi well. Doenitz seemed frustrated at the accusations being levied against him and he definitely had less knowledge of the Holocaust than Speer did, simply because the Kriegsmarine had no involvement nor needed to know about it. The Nazis knew that the fewer people knew what they were doing, the more they could get away with. Speer, as armaments minister, would have firsthand knowledge because slaves were used to build weapons and such.
Albert (edit: Wilhelm, not Albert) Canaris, head of Abwehr, was pretty determined after the first shootings in Poland 1939, to not let Hitler win the war.
@@melgross sure, a lot from here and there. From what I have read, he misinformed Hitler on strategic information, sabotaged diplomatic missions and sent his Brandenburger corp on suicide missions. The wiki has some stuff too, condensed, but not so great as the books: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Canaris#Second_World_War
At 8:18 he does not say "Lagerbesprechung" (camp discussion), but Lagebesprechung (discussion of the situation). I do not think Hitler ever visited a concentration camp.
The non verbal communication of both shows how they fight to stay calm not to over react to the questions. Speer shows the attitude of an self confident arrogant person. His comparison of the Nazis with the mob is the only part of the interview in which he evidently shows that he understood which crimes they committed.
I am impressed by how differentiated Speer looks back at himself. He didn't deny his involvement and that his behavior was even partially just gain and success for himself. Nor does he deny that he wouldn't do it again. Quite the contrast to Dönitz who seemingly didn't see any fault of his own in any of it.
Try different perspectives, maybe? From a military perspective, Dönitz and his kriegsmarine didn't do anything wrong and the war crimes were out of his command, out of his control. From an ethical perspective, the case is different. Ask yourself this, though, how long do you think a German high officer would live if he went against Hitler? Yeah, I thought so.
If we could study original documents from the german archive(uncensored and no "for private eyes only" bullshit ) who knows .....we could get a big surprise in many aspects of the war.
I think German archive is very open. And if there are some documents unseen, they won't change the history. But archives in Russia are still very closed. Even historians in Russia can't see many documents. I hope they open some day.
@@Bruh-jr2ep Well yes but allso no, the German Reichsarchiv was burned down in 44 aufter an Airstrike on Berlin, so many dokuments are lost for ever but everything what still exist can be read by everyone who wnat.
That argument is substantially contradicted by the inescapable historical facts. The Nazis first and foremost were voted into power by the German people at a time when their anti-Jew, anti-Treaty of Versailles views were literally central to their manifesto, they were supported fervently by the German population in the industrial revival and the rapid escalation of their military in contravention of the treaty, they were silent about the enabling act which increased Hitlers power, they were silent on Kristallnacht, they were throwing flowers and waving flags in the streets when the invasions of other European countries began, they attended the rallies, volunteered for the military and many benefitted from or at least were very aware of the extermination camps and the persecution of Jews and other minorities. Somewhere within all that backdrop there are a lot of people who should never have been allowed to absolve themselves by virtue of the “human nature” or “mass brainwashing” excuses. The fact remains that the German people put their shoulder to the wheel of an evil regime. Yes it’s an example of what humans can do but there were many other examples prior to the Nazis that an educated population like the Germans could have learned from.
@@nkristianschmidt Wir können es auch in unserer Muttersprache. Sie haben sich schlecht oder einseitig informiert: Jeder wusste damals, was geschieht! Erst wurden die Kommunisten und Sozis, die Gewerkschafter, dann die Schwulen und nicht zuletzt auch die Juden deportiert und in die Kz´s verbracht. Dachau und Bergen Belsen befinden sich auf deutschem Gebiet, um nur einige Lager zu nennen. Die Juden wurden aus ihren Wohnungen auf die Strassen getrieben. Es gab die Reichskristallnacht. Alles im Kernland. Die Euthanasie tötete "unwertes" Leben. Das alles konnte man und hat man nicht übersehen und war der Bevölkerung bekannt. Dass Gleiches auch in Ost-, West- und Südeuropa durchgeführt wurde, ist aber leider auch richtig.
When you essentially re-instate Slavery, send thousands on death marches, were a vitral part of Germanys military production and where Hitlers best friend but you only gace 20 years SPEER MOMENT
@@cippy5450 He did re-institute slavery but he didn't send anyone to "death marches." What good are dead slaves? Speer needed production, not corpses, and anyone who did die of disease or exhaustion would've first fulfilled their purpose.
I’m reading the Nuremberg Trials right and am at the point where they are selecting the defendants and cannot understand how Doenitz was included. He was just doing his job.
Because Adolf named him his successor, and as such, Doenitz never prosecuted the well known criminals that he knew were already fleeing to South America or elsewhere. Perhaps he didn't have time. Executing Doenitz for being a good Admiral would have been a real injustice, though.
@@ryanbrown6335 Look, Donitz was a military man in the navy. Mostly the military, were not necessarily Nazis. Herman Goering was both. It’s very plausible to have been an antisemite, but not know the genocide going on in four or five distinct extermination camps in Poland. Three of them were destroyed before the allies got there. Treblinka , Sobibor and Belzec were destroyed and were in Poland. However mistreatment , persecution and detention of the Jews in Europe no one denies . Even Holocaust deniers don’t deny that.
@@ryanbrown6335 “just doing his job” is a VALID thing though. What the hell is an Admiral suppose to do, surrender? It’s WAR for crying out loud... and Doenitz is not a criminal... using the same flawed logic, EVERY ALLIED Admiral is a criminal. See how stupid and flawed that argument is now.... use your brain.
@4:10 It's not just the characteristic of an authoritarian state-it's the characteristic of a bureaucracy, regardless of the type of government, but also, in the private sector. Once an organization gets big enough, it forms bureaucracies to carry out tasks-groups rigidly and hierarchically organized. And the bureaucrat can hide behind the rules, the ordinances, the policy book, to evade responsibility. "I gotta do like the book says!"
@theBaron0530 Wow! It sounds like you are describing the Mormon Church, here! (And, if you don't know anything about 'that' bizarre hierarchy, believe me when I say that, in it, you will find everything that you just described, in your comment!)
Speer was, would have been the perfect top manager. No qualms at all to do the worst to weaker or unlucky men,, attractive appearance, eloquent, efficient doer.
Dönitz war ein guter Politiker und Opportunist dem der Anstand und der Mut fehlt ehrlich zu sich selbst und seinen Mitmenschen zu sein. Mehr kann man zu ihm nicht sagen.
Irgendwie könnte ich Albert Speer mehrere Std zuhören ... so eine klare ruhige und angenehme Stimme! Kp er macht irgendwie einen recht netten Eindruck 😅
Speer is 0% appealing to me in this vid. Doenitz seems like a military man caught in a trap. At least Speer spent more time in jail than Doenitz. I'll read his (Doenitz's) book.
To me Speer is much more appealing because he appears smart, calm and collected. I can see why he was one of few top nazis that got away with their crimes. Because he is super charismatic. Also he had a profession that was actually useful post-war to rebuild Germany many of the other top nazis were all military men that were of no use in peacetime.
A geezer I worked with around 1970 was a guard at a POW camp. He said German POWs would pick rotten tomatoes and chuck them in a pot for Campbell's soup. The area was in the boondocks then. Now it's swanky strip malls. Route 12 and Cuba road. In Illinois.
From my research i think donitz fought a clean war. He saved many lives and the end of the war. His book was a good read. Speer definitely had a hand in the evils but i don't think he really had much of a choice. He turned a blind eye at what was happening
Speer was licking Hitler's backside from 1931. The guy designed concentration camps, that's a bit more than turning a blind eye. Doenitz was a career Navy man from WW1. He turned a blind eye. Speer built the machine.
@@mynamename5172 Doenitz was too busy running the navy and waging warfare. He may have been privy to some information or loose talk, but had no idea as to the full extent of the Nazi crimes until appointed President and thereafter. And if he was aware of it, what could he do about it? Welcome to the machine.
I’m in the process of learning to speak Finnish , Hungarian , Georgian , Chinese , Japanese , eventually learn German , just in case it happens again .🈵🈹🈴㊗️
Albert Speer's honesty and willingness to tell the Nuremberg Courts the actual reasons for the Third Reich are the reasons for his sentence. The Russian judges just wanted him hanged and cared nothing for the truth, but the American and British judges were much more reasonable in accepting all he had to say regarding all that happened during World War II. Albert Speer's impression to the court judges with his honest statements as to all that had happened was the reason for the fair judgments and final sentence made against him.
@@luxembourgishempire2826 They were probably in line with the American and British judges in their decisions. It was the Russian judges who wanted everyone hanged.
Am amazed by the tidiness, cozyness of Dönitz' home. He even had a holy cross erect on a side table. Wonder who lives there now. The stern voice of the interviewer sounds very inquisitive while probably only adjusting to Dönitz' loss of hearing.
I can actually understand Dönitz mindset. It's like many Germans I know. They are extremely efficient and proud of their work, so it's impossible for them to recognize they are doing something morally wrong, as they are doing it efficiently.
@@KarstenOkk Come to work in Germany and you understand my comment. You go into meetings where you reach logic and efficient conclusions. Morality is not a parameter in these engineering minds, so they have achieved the optimal solution.
BS. Empty slogan. Germany was not destroyed and all Germans were not wiped out, as in ancient times. The Germans rebuilt their country, yet they acknowledge that things went terribly wrong back then and take the blame for it too, as they should. A huge amount of testimony and evidence exists irrespective of who the victor was. Facts remain facts.
What the US air command did over Japan dwarfs any minor breach of war etiquette poor Doenitz was ever guilty of. The difference is he was on the losing side...
The German POW generals whose conversations were taped proved that the vast majority knew exactly what was happening within the concentration camps throughout the war. Though many thought it best to hide their true feeling especially during the first half of the War when the rewards were readily accepted
yes, but it was not announced as death camp, nor were death camps present until the war started, then mostly in Poland away from the German public, and not with announcements in the papers. KZs were at first just prisons to scare the opposition. Later, and accelerated after food became really scarce due to poor economic policies, it was decided to start murdering whole families. The general German public did not know about the death camps in Poland, but everyone knew about the KZs in Germany of course.
it means the peoples car. he designed it taking note from the czech tatra automobile. type 1, also known as the beetle. the porsche sports car came after the war. so yeah, he was the volks guy first and foremost.
I read Speer's book, Inside the Third Reich many years ago. He was a very smart man.. smart enough to know what he was doing, and what was going on around him.
Absolutely. He might not have been the most convinced Nazi, but he was a great Opportunist. Just as Werner von Braun. As an aspiring Engineer I was at a seminar in university dealing with more like the sociologic stuff that surrounds engineers/technicians like responcibility of your actions and stuff. We discussed both these men. Nazi documents clearly showed that Speer knew all along what was going on, he was giving the orders!, basically sending prisoners into working conditions that were their sure death. People were so willing to believe his lies after the war, because he was not the nasty shouting angry Nazi that they have seen so often.
@@skarbuskreska Oh absolutely. His ego and ambition were massive, and he had a gift for manipulation. He pretended to be contrite but I really don't think he was.
Gibt es auch eine Dokumentation über die Pioniere der konzentrierten Lager, z B. die Briten in Südafrika - Buuren -, die Polen vor WKII mit Juden, Deutschen und Regimegegnern , den Gulags des Josef Stalin etc......? Erbitte dankenswerterweise Hinweise.
Da ziehe ich aber ganz *starke* parallelen zur *heutigen* ENGSTIRNIGKEIT " einiger " vieler in der Politik Danke Jac für den interessanten Beitrag Krasser Beitrag und sehr aufschlussreich !
@@joshsuan4489 the fact his tactics still used by modern naval strategy and feared by many country is make him one of the greatest naval commanders. even uk has big navy but still overwhelmed by just bunch of submarine was amaze me... few numbers, great tactics, less loss, unseen, silence, fear and despair. what more things he can get the tittle...?
As a German with migration background I am amazed by the structure and precision Albert Speer has while talking. His language is crystal clear and easy to understand but at the same time he uses extreme let’s say “high-level” expressions which you’ll rarely find nowadays in Germany even among the more educated people. It shows me how beautiful the language could be if the person know the language really well.
Hitler gave a promtly order to Dønitz to shoot every enemy who lay in the water , and Karl refuse to give this order to his submariners. In my eyes, Karl were a hero, even though his uboats killed around 3000 norwegians during the war, and sunk alot of norwegian ships. Im a norwegian
Bedankt Jac- most interesting film of interviews with these two men, raising really challenging questions about their guilt and complicity in the events surrounding the Nazi regime!
My dad's ship was torpedoed in the War so naturally he referred to Donitz as an "old bastard" when this interview came out,as I remember.My grandad was in WW1 and I remember him saying that the Germans were "very very clever",referring to their tactics I suppose.
@@hasan6711 Oder doch besser UreinwohnerInnen? Von einem User namens Hasan lasse ich mir wohl kaum vorschreiben, wie ich mich in meiner eigenen Sprache auszudrücken habe, also erspar mir bitte Deine linksversiffte "political correctness".
Alle bezeichnen Albert Speer als Schleimer, aber wenigstens gibt er zu dass er opportunistisch war. Jeder idiot kann hier auf schlau machen, aber die aller wenigsten hätten an Speers stelle nein gesagt.
Leider hat Speer nicht alles wirklich zugegeben. Es sind in den vergangenen Jahren weitere Details bekanntgeworden, die Speer noch schlechter aussehen lassen. Da Speer verurteilt wurde und die gerichtliche Strafe abgesessen hatte, hätte er noch viel ehrlicher sein können. Er hätte kein zweites Mal für die Sache angeklagt werden können. Er hatte somit meiner Auffassung nach, die Chance verpaßt, noch viel schonungsloser für Aufklärung zu sorgen. Leider hat er es nicht getan.
@@ButscheSchmidt Da ist vermutlich auch viel Selbstverleugnung dabei, ich glaube viele Leute zu der Zeit wollen sich auch nicht eingestehen was sie Furchtbares getan haben.
In this age of strict legal standards, it's hard to believe that anyone can attach any value to the Nuremburg show-trials. It was just the winning side getting revenge. "Victor's justice", as someone rightly described it.
It was, however, at least a trial. Those vanquished in most wars where one side was completely occupied never had any chance to defend themselves. If they couldn't flee far enough, they were just summarily killed. I do think, however, that the Nuremburg precedent that one is responsible for rejecting orders is a bad precedent. First of all, front line-line soldiers are not lawyers and should not be expected to understand whether an order is legal or not. And while praise is deserved for those who thwart an illegal or inhumane order, the responsibility for such an order executed should fall on the individual who originated it, not the ones who passed it along or carried it out. At least this is my opinion.
I believe Speer and Dönitz that they were not the driving force behind the holocaust and I also believe them that they set their focus on their career and military job respectively, not wanting to know exactly how Hitler wanted to destroy the Jews. But that makes this interview both so important for some and so dangerous for others. Important because you realize how people become willing part of the most horrible crimes (at the very least indirectly) just because things turn out that way, a lesson some companies should think more about when they don't feel responsible for their supply chains. And dangerous because this can lead to a certain fascination of those individuals and this may act as an "entry drug" for upcoming neo-nazis. I am not sure whether we need more or less of this kind of interview aired but I found it very interesting to watch.
@@marcellojune63 Sorry for not being clear. With not wanting to know, I didn't mean they didn't know but that they didn't want to have anything to do with it. Like I know bad things are happening in Chinese Concentration camps but go my daily life without thinking about it. Buying products that probably went through them in the supply chain.
Albert Speer war als Rüstungsminister viel mehr mit Zwangsarbeit und der Organisation in den Arbeitslagern befasst, als Admiral Dönitz. Daraus erklärt sich das Schuldbekenntnis von Albert Speer und das Unschuldsbewusstsein von Karl Dönitz.
The only issue with watching or reading anything that Speer has to say..is that he changes the truth to make him more likable to the Allies. After WW2 was over, he basically jumped to the Allies side and said whatever they wanted him to say to reduce his sentence, etc. Doenitz is telling the truth from his heart and you can tell because he is so animated as when compared to Speer, the calm and calculated responses. I've read things that Speer supposedly said before/during the war and then after the war his story changed. He's not consistent. The Nuremberg trials were a joke and a display of Jewish revenge. The whole concentration camp subject isn't anything new during those times. Stalin had the worst camps (Gulags) in history but nothing is ever mentioned about him. FDR put the resident US Japanese (and some German)citizens in concentration camps during the war. Concentration camps were used everywhere in those days. The people who were at risk for the country were put in work camps to be watched so they couldn't hurt the country. All these pictures and videos of emaciated prisoners and dead prisoners was taken AFTER the war. The US and British air raids targeted roads, civilians, cities and railroads/tracks during their annihilation of Germany and their towns. When the transportation and railroads are destroyed - theres no food, supplies or medical supplies being delivered to the camps. This is what caused the starvation, and then the outbreak of Typhus. This is why most German soldiers say they have no knowledge of the Jews being killed in camps. One other fact regarding the camps after the war - when the US took control of the western part of Germany, the Red Cross came in and inspected the concentration camps in those areas in the west - they concluded that they were work camps. Stalin had control of all the camps to the east and he would not allow anyone into the camps after the war - the Red Cross was forbidden to inspect them. Stalin proclaimed those camps death camps. Interesting how the camps inspected by the Red Cross were work camps but the ones that weren't were labeled death camps by Stalin. The man responsible for the russian genocide, gulags, red army and the guy who turned on the Allies after WW2 was over and he got what he wanted. There are so many facts hidden in WW2 to make us look like the good guys its ridiculous - The atrocities/war crimes that the US/British/Russian troops did to the Germans are never talked about, Hell.. After the war Eisenhower crowded many German POWs into concentration camps and starved them because of his hatred for the Germans - this was definitely a war crime, but nothing came of it. (stepping down from my soapbox)
You couldn't of worded this any better there's so much that people dnt know about the war during and after the documentary the greatest story never told opened my eyes and it all made sense after watching this you won't find the truth from UA-cam or Google
There's a great accurate book out there that explains in detail many things that we never hear or heard about the war. It's called "The Myth of German Villainy" by Benton Bradberry. This should be required reading for all regarding ww2. Highly recommend.
Those who have researched these two men carefully get to know the actual truth of who they really were. They were both highly intelligent and highly skilled men who performed their duties extremely well. They were loyal to their country and were both placed in an awkward situation when they served under a ruthless tyrranical dictator. If they had refused to serve just imagine the possible consequences they & their families would have faced. Believe it or not I have concluded that I see NO EVIL within their hearts. I also believe Speer & Doenitz were both used by the regime for their talents and also many evil things going on behind the scenes were actually hidden from even members of the highest command. God will ultimately know & be the judge on their souls. Fascinating interviews!
I'm inclined to feel the same. They certainly knew at least some details of what was happening, but they choose not to "see". For some time it was like Germany was winning the war, and people on their position did not have many options. In the end, who wants to die... ?
about Donitz: he hashly blamed Salvatore Todaro, italian commander of a submarine who, after causing the shipwreck of a belgian steamer instead of letting the crew drowning took care of them hospiting all of them in his submarine (!!). This is Todaro's answer to Donitz: " A german commander does not have behind him two thousand years of civilization like I".
@Michael Kelly totally agree about the connection of Italian fascism with ancient rome, the first was a buffoonish and at the same time tragic version of the second, but I was talking about the human substance of commander Todaro - who was a relative of mine - against that of Donitz
@Michael Kelly exactly what Todaro meant. Doenitz, instead of Todaro, would have "carried out orders". All germans carried out orders, both in command of a warship and in the direction of a concentration camp.
Perhaps he should have been more careful about comparing the German history, he possibly did not know, with the Roman and Papistic and Macchiavelli morals, after he had read about Cesar in Gallia the Italian city wars or other examples? You don't need 2.000 years of history to be a rightous man! And even your Italian sub commander was serving a fascist regime, didn't he?😉 Still it is a courageous answer towards a falgofficer of a befriended Navy...👍🏻
Dönitz' standing order not to rescue victims of a sinking ship was the result of the Laconia incident in which German and Italian submarines displaying the red cross and in the process of rescuing passengers from a torpedoed vessel were attacked by American aircraft in 1942 (a war crime for which nobody was prosecuted). In Dönitz professional opinion, a commanding officer was more responsible for the lives of his crewmen and security of his ship than for the unfortunate passengers of a targeted vessel. A moral dilemma indeed, but a sound military perspective.
@@alanfriesen9837 didn't know the Laconia case, and i thank you for letting me know it. This, i admit, put under a new light the behaviour of Donitz. It makes me come the "principle of indetermination" of Heisenberg, like formulated from layer Riedenschneider in "the man who was not there" by Cohen bros ("sometimes the more you look, the less you know. It is a fact. It is proven.")
@@Sshooter444 Only on your dreams. Socialism and atheism have nothing in common. Socialism is yet another ideology, atheism is a rejection of one. No one ever killed anyone in the name of atheism, while there are many examples of people killing millions in the name of socialism, religion, and nationalism. Atheism is not popular at all as more than 90% of human population is still religious. All those ideologies together with socialism are populistic and humans stick to them very easily because most humans are idiots basically so they need some fairy tale to believe, god or collective identity, heaven or justice on Earth.
Speer just told everyone what they wanted to hear, truly intelligent but dangerous at the same time
During, and after the war :-)
@@mrgeringer natürlich seid ihr beide ausgewiesene MILITÄREXPERTEN und laßt euch nicht hinters Licht führen. NICHTS WISST IHR. Zum Glück seid ihr nicht intelligent und ungefährlich.
@@mrgeringer Es gibt Videodokumentationen über den Nürnberger Prozess gegen die Hauptkriegsverbrecher. Da wird gesagt, dass Speer nicht weniger Schuld hatte, als einige der zum Tode Verurteilten. Er war nur cleverer und hat sich besser verkauft. Zum Beispiel hat er behauptet, er selbst hätte ein Attentat auf Adolf Hitler geplant, um die Verbrechen zu beenden. Auch hat er die kollektive Schuld anerkannt, seine persönliche Schuld aber relativiert.
Great interviews and insight.
They were heroes and should have won. We can all see now who was the good guys. Had they won we would be living in paradise - instead we're getting ethnically replaced in our native homelands in Europe and men in wigs claim they are women. Everything they said - the mediacontrol, the banking ... everything is like they said.
When Speer was in prison, he produced by hand architectural drawings different houses, mansions, for some US officers and also for the US prison director E. Bird.
Not only Andy Warhol , David Bowie was also fascinated about Speers monumentalism. Mick Jagger only wanted Leni Reifenstahl to produced the photo shoot with
Bianca Jagger, he did not accept any other photographer. She was also invited to the Rolling Stones concerts
German efficiency
That’s disgusting. I had never been a Mick Jagger fan. Now I know why. 🤢🤮
@@taxiuniversum yeah, pretty depraved...on the other hand I can see them doing so just to be edgy, anti establishment.
@@Raussl Well - a number of „stars“ got a screw loose, one or the other way. Most of them hardly get into contact with everyday folk - and because they are so rich and almost everyone around them depends on their money, they often don’t have anyone who will tell them something is a stupid idea. Leni Riefenstahl had been a remarkably skilled producer of propaganda - but she maintained until her death that she was simply „innocently documenting“ the Nazis - which is a brazen LIE! I watched a number of documentaries about her, and will say that I am not impressed with her character the least bit.
Nazi chic of a pretentious new establishment post-1960s.
Fascinating differences between these two men. Speer being more relaxed, overseeing things. Dönitz, probably suffering from loss of hearing, more in defence. Protecting the statements he made decades earlier. More looking for reasons beyond him.
That has to do with upbringing and education. Speer comes from the wealthy, educated middle class and enjoyed a good humanistic upbringing. As a child and adolescent, he was often abroad. Döniz came from a Prussian civil servant family in These days usual short schooling as well as education in militarism and anti-bourgeoisie, anti-democracy, etc. I don't want to talk about experience abroad of him as it did not exist st all. Speer's experiences in Switzerland for exp.were restaurant visits and Döniz his experiences were coal picking from the "employer". So it happens that Döniz is intellectually not able to go through things differently.
@@jurijeckel4938 I'll bet ya the guy who's not "intellectually" up to your high standards, in his lifetime, forgot more than you'll ever know, in yours.
Karl donitz was protecting a secret : base 211 Antarctica. Where over 100 submarines the disappeared. The brains were Martin Bormann + Hans kammler. They offered the atomic bomb , rockets , jet reaction engines to the ennemy while smuggling "die glocke" to Antarctica through Argentina on the JU-390 #3....
The universe is electric. All physics post Charles Proteus Steinmetz is fake science. Gravity + centripetal acceleration are both the dielectric field. Electrodynamics is a forbidden science.
@@SG-ug9xj Your answer has nothing to do with what you're responding to, he wasn't attacking Dönitz making him small nor was he comparing Dönitz to himself but to Speer. You don't really seem to be able to understand that.
@@gauntr I understood what he meant. now you're telling me the same thing about me. keep it out of my eyes < --- I hope you can intellectually comprehend that statement.
We need to see more of these interviews so as to understand what really happened in Europe. Excellent video.
What is really happend?
@@toniailton9557 Good question. I wonder why Rockers2Rockers did not answer...
@@toniailton9557 Germany was under attack and Germans were genocided.
@@solman3560 XD
These are interviews with men trying to save and protect their reputations. Do remember what regime they served. Other sources and evidence need to be taken into account.
I am actually glad there were still a few high ranking Nazis left like Speer whose lives were spared. Their personal recollections of the inner circle of power gave historians and the world valuable insights into the Nazi regime.
You wouldnt be glad of this I you would be dying as a nazi slave in factories or survivor of extermination camp
@@jankochanowski3252 Perspective is a valuable insight. Real conversations must be had. The accused must be investigated, and we must take that, as a society, and learn from it. Hate, even hate-of-hate, must subside if we are to continue and prevent these incidents from perpetually reoccurring. The death of tyrants may not yet quench the hurt, the hate, and scars that go from one generation to the next. Of course, its big talk coming from one who doesn't carry the awesome burden of the criminal, the accused, or the victim. The inexcusable egregious acts of the time is no doubt why it's still felt so intensely even today, and tomorrow.
Vieles wurde den Deutschen in die Schuhe geschoben, erinnert Euch nur an Katyn wo man die ganzen Offiziere erschlossen wurden vonStalin und seinen Schergen! Obwohl jeder Krieg ist grausam! Warum hält man nur Deutschland immer den Spiegel vor ?USA hat mehrere grausame Kriege angezettelt (Vietnam,Korea und Saudi-Arabien! Das ist alles normal?
Yes, but did they tell the truth.
@@peterhorak7542 This is a clear whataboutism. Yes, other countries have committed crimes against humanity, but that doesn’t diminish the atrocities committed in the third reich. Plus the scale and industrialized methods were relatively new. And the rest of the world weren’t (fully) aware of what Stalins regime was doing with his goelag system. I feel modern Germany is better of being aware of what happened during WW2, because else you will see what currently is happening in Russia. Where Stalin is regaining popularity and his crimes are being swept under the carpet.
I do have to agree that modern Germans shouldn’t be held accountable for the crimes of there forefathers. 99.99 percent of the population was to young or not even born during the war. Only people 90 years or older can still be old enough to have been part of the atrocities. And even than hitler jugend can hardly be held accountable.
Irgendwie schade das es nicht mehr so viele hohe Tiere der nazis gibt nicht weil ich sie unterstütze sondern um zu lernen und zu sehen wie sie nach dem Krieg klarkommen finde solche Interviews sehr interessant
leider viele negative beispiele,gibt vom y kollektiv glaub ich auch noch ein interview mit nem hj ss soldaten der nichts bereut und alles leugnet bis heute
@@aaronkraft6205 ja hab ich auch gesehen... Im Prinzip natürlich alles hs aber halt trotzdem interessant wie die ideologie noch teilweise In deren Köpfen verankert ist bzw war
@@henrymoss8237 ja das stimmt,aber kannste ja auch mit anderen ideologien vergleichen. wissenschaft wird abgelehnt bzw ihre eigene errichtet und wenn möglich sogar mit gewalt ausgeübt oder verteidigt. Corona leugner lassen grüßen
Speer war ein opportunist
@Consigliere nein
Speer could speak very good English, so I assume doing the interview in German was to ease his response.
Or maybe so as not to give the impression that Speer was treated differently in front of the world. If they made it easier for him... Either way, unlike those jitterbugs and psychos like Hess they wouldn't hang him with that charme.
Glück gehabt🍀👍🏿
Or maybe fewer ears for critiquing his 'guilt' as readily available from this 1 entity.
@@nassermj7671 okay my bad. English isn't my first language and I got it wrong. I thought "to ease his response" was meant that this would simplify the answering in German for Speer but it's not. I also assumed wrong because they were all charged at the same time and I overrated the fact that the Allies, especially the Americans, had top priority to maintain absolute equality at that defining moment in every sense. Even if indirectly, thanks for the correction.
@@tyronevaldez-kruger5313 "the allies, especially the Americans, had to top priority to maintain absolute equality"??? You've gotta be kidding me dude...
@@tyronevaldez-kruger5313 No, from my viewpoint, you got it right. Many WW2 era Germans whether Speer, or fighter pilots, soldiers, etc, could speak English by the 1970's and on when these interviews took place. Regardless, the interview was still often in German. Again, right or wrong, I simply made an assumption.
Bei Speers Ausführungen merkt man , dass Englisch viel weniger Wörter beinhaltet als Deutsch. Speer redet besser als manche schreiben .
Doenitz sounds exactly how I imagined him to sound, but Speer's voice is almost suprisingly... calming? It definitely fits with the "good nazi" character that he played so often.
speer is born in mannheim he also speeks with a ‚mannheimer dialect'. that’s why he sounds so calm
One of those guys who thinks germans must sound angry. He sounds calm. SURPRISE SURPRISE
@K. W.
Not Germans, but nazis.
dönitz is hard of hearing. that's why he yells. that's why the interviewer yells. also, he is from berlin, wich is a much harder dialect, than south central germany were mannheim is. good example is the word "me" or "I" in hessen or rheinland pfalz it's pronounced "isch" (much like you would pronounce fish) while in berlin it's pronounced "icke". basically you have volker michalowski vs martin schneider. for reference: ua-cam.com/video/GmbLaEsTZDY/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/CQzcstTswHo/v-deo.html (the last one is michalowski. you might recognize him from inglorious basterds as the guy who celebrated in the bar prior to the shootout)
@@LemmyKBrinkwood thanks for the explanation.. Als Anfänger finde ich Dönitz sehr schwer zu verstehen
They didn't hang him because he was the only one that _repented_ .Don't know if there was a deal or Speer just got it right...
He was extremely useful in the trial from that repented positions,basically becoming a accuser that confirmed all the accusations.
Seriously, how naive can one be to believe that personal charisma saved Speer?
He was an opportunist, nothing more... all he said was what the "others" wanted to hear...
@@lrc9304
Ribbentrop was also very much an opportunist but Ribbentrop got the rope.
Like I said,having a tier one Nazi playing the _repented_ part was very useful in the trial.
There probably was a deal with the Americans.
PS.If you look at how many second and third tier Nazis were in the post war West German administration you'll understand that this repeating _repented theme_ was a pragmatic way for the Americans to "rebuild" Germany with competent man that had a questionable past.You do need to refurbish them in some way and make them acceptable for the general public
They only disappeared in the late 60s,early 70s.
Spear said he was guilty.
Donitz when charged with sinking ships, and that made him a war criminal, told the prosecutors, "You did the exact same thing..." and the allies had.
@@evinchester7820
Not exactly. Speer said that he didn't know but as a member of the government should have known and for that reason assumed his share of responsibility.So he never admired guilt,just some _naive_ shared responsibility.He also turned on his Nazi "friends" and said that the trial is necessary.
Donitz said something in the lines of "everything I did was in accordance to the rules of war"
Complete BS in both causes.
Speer wasnt a man of war, he was a builder. Yes, he built things for a bad man with a bad ideology, but you can't blame him for all the atrocities.
Does anyone believe Speer? Every time I see him speak about his involvement, I'm always left with the feeling, that he is a cold, calculating person, knowing how to twist the truth.
thats right. he is.
Yes probably a sociopath through and through!
If you read his latest biography the layer of veneer of a civilized, refined person is peeled off completely. He was every bit aware of the atrocities in the name of the third reich.
I agree. The smug laugh at the end sums it up.
As a National Socialist I say that speer is the contrary to Arno Breker, a traitor, not a true honorable man. In the end goering was not a traitor but speer
Both were social climbers. Donitz was a little bit principled soldier who probably did not order to comit war crimes, but he knew very well what was going on.
Speer at least admitted that he was a climber and knew what was going on during the war. He is more open and admitted that he used the situation and connection.
yeah, dönitz was a born prussian in the 19th century, his mother died when he was 4 and imedietly after finishing shool he joined the german empires marine. Different people born in completely different times.
What Speer said at the end, followed by the laugh and smirk was chilling. He had fooled everyone at Nuremberg. ( Kaiser Soze )
well, as armaments minister he certainly must have had a big say over the allocation of all labor. But Germany was starved in total the last years. Except for Goering, most were short on food.
He was being sarcastic. Serving a 20 years sentence does that to a man.
Knew it!!!
You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you cant fool God any time
@@thedolphinDog And santa claus brings coal to all the bad children.
1973 speaking about WW2 would be like speaking about 1993 today and all men in their 40:s would have been the soldiers...
More like mostly in their 50's actually, but yeah...
1993-94 Yugoslavia, Rwanda... well some testimonies would be interesting
@@walterweiss7124 I'm 45 and was in Yugoslavia aged 18 in 1993.
@@LRB-ut1nx our generation is still living in interesting times, I can tell because I spent half of my childhood behind Iron Curtain
Great math skills.
Incredible footage.
Modern documentaries never put on these interviews and I wonder why they do that!
to silence them
Because knowledge will cause questions.
Because modern documentary is kind of lying
Whatever the reason may be, the result is a dehumanisation of the nazi regime which in my opinion is one of the reasons why neo-nazism still flourishes today.
@@axllbk ever thought about that the lies we're all hearing about all day long of how beautiful and peacfully a fully globalized multicultural world would be is going to fuel neonazism even more ?!
In my opinion the unrealistic and ultra left Ideologies these days are the main reason for rising neonazism. Quasi as a natural counter- reaction
I've read Doenitz's autobiography and it's fantastic reading, a must for everyone interested in WW2 submarine war in the Atlantic.
what is the name of the book?
@@camzpras3435 Ten Years and Twenty Days. A very detailed account of his entire career and decisions. Like him or not, he was a very analytical, disciplined and ambitious mind. According to his own saying, his entire focus was his submarine fleet. He even lost both his sons at sea during WW2, the first in a submarine, the second in a boat raid. Today's admirals would have probably sent their offspring at the safest possible station instead of the middle of a conflict.
@@captainzeppos thank you sir, will look for it
Speer is far more open and introspective, while Donitz is very careful and protective of his true opinion.
Speer doesn't say his true thoughts. He only does what safe his ass. He's a traitor and has no regrets belive me
@@nbgforlive well said
The ability to hide your true feelings and always say what your superiors wanted to hear was necessary to survive for the lower classes and to thrive for people in the top positions like both Dönitz and Speer. Both are using their own personal techniques of this in this interview. Be careful and distrust critically.
I think they merely had been exposed to lawyers using trick questions to lead them down the garden path into a swamp of manure.
Likely they had seen this at Nuremberg.
They had been interviewed before and knew what to expect.
To be fair, there are no recorded atrocities being ascribed to the German Navy 1939-45. Compare and contrast, the Royal Navy continued to blockade Germany for over seven months following the Armistice in November 1918. This likely caused the deaths of about 750,000 German civilians from shortages and starvation. To the victors, goes the history?
This is essential archive film material: Speer and Donitz tell us so much about what happened. Few of our historians approached them.
The more reason for UA-cam to delete it. Totally agree with you.
All these Jewish historians aren't interested in the truth, they only want to hear their own truths
Few intelligent historians believed Speer's fabricated horseshit "recollections" that portray him as innocent.
Didn't occur to you they might be lying, did it? Or those 19 morons that agreed.
I feel like Admiral Doenitz is much more believable (and definitely cleaner) than Speer. Speer was a very charming person and incredibly smart, but he seemed like he thought of answers before the interview and could play the character of a good Nazi well. Doenitz seemed frustrated at the accusations being levied against him and he definitely had less knowledge of the Holocaust than Speer did, simply because the Kriegsmarine had no involvement nor needed to know about it. The Nazis knew that the fewer people knew what they were doing, the more they could get away with. Speer, as armaments minister, would have firsthand knowledge because slaves were used to build weapons and such.
I assume all the shouting was because Donitz had hearing difficulties due to advanced age?
yes
and as a sailor and admiral, he probably heard his share of cannons going off next to him.
Thats was a casual conversation tone back in nazi germany I guess
@@styxzero1675 not really.
@@styxzero1675 nope
This is important stuff.
Albert (edit: Wilhelm, not Albert) Canaris, head of Abwehr, was pretty determined after the first shootings in Poland 1939, to not let Hitler win the war.
I haven’t seen that. Any evidence of it?
@@melgross sure, a lot from here and there. From what I have read, he misinformed Hitler on strategic information, sabotaged diplomatic missions and sent his Brandenburger corp on suicide missions. The wiki has some stuff too, condensed, but not so great as the books: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Canaris#Second_World_War
Exactly correct.
Interesting.
@alpha male right
At 8:18 he does not say "Lagerbesprechung" (camp discussion), but Lagebesprechung (discussion of the situation). I do not think Hitler ever visited a concentration camp.
I eat meat but I've never visited the abattoir.
@@hujinshu are you implying hitler ate cremated jews?
@@hendricusderuijter9671
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Right. It´s " Lagebesprechung"
The non verbal communication of both shows how they fight to stay calm not to over react to the questions. Speer shows the attitude of an self confident arrogant person. His comparison of the Nazis with the mob is the only part of the interview in which he evidently shows that he understood which crimes they committed.
You're so right...
Albert Speer's smirk/laughed at the end... So scary
Remember, he's saying this 30 years later, after he had served his time
Sarcasm
Yes very Dark to the end.
Because he's a creep. Plain simple. And Donitz is even a bigger creep...
Bear in mind, he was interviewed so many times. It is fairly close to impossible to cry and tear off your hair every time.
Thanks for a great video 🙏👌👌👍🏻
I am impressed by how differentiated Speer looks back at himself. He didn't deny his involvement and that his behavior was even partially just gain and success for himself. Nor does he deny that he wouldn't do it again.
Quite the contrast to Dönitz who seemingly didn't see any fault of his own in any of it.
Try different perspectives, maybe? From a military perspective, Dönitz and his kriegsmarine didn't do anything wrong and the war crimes were out of his command, out of his control. From an ethical perspective, the case is different. Ask yourself this, though, how long do you think a German high officer would live if he went against Hitler?
Yeah, I thought so.
Ruhe in Frieden Helden
A friend of mine worked in Frankfurt for his son… he still has an Architekct bureau in Frankfurt and his last name is still speer
If we could study original documents from the german archive(uncensored and no "for private eyes only" bullshit ) who knows .....we could get a big surprise in many aspects of the war.
Thats true or If we knew what Rudolf Hess knew
I think German archive is very open. And if there are some documents unseen, they won't change the history.
But archives in Russia are still very closed. Even historians in Russia can't see many documents. I hope they open some day.
@@Bruh-jr2ep Well yes but allso no, the German Reichsarchiv was burned down in 44 aufter an Airstrike on Berlin, so many dokuments are lost for ever but everything what still exist can be read by everyone who wnat.
@@General-Gauder Well yes of course you can't read what's destroyed XD
@@Bruh-jr2ep Well the documents that would maybe Change History are destroyed (I guess the Nazis the Important stuff probably)
Karl Dönitz erinnert mich irgendwie an Honecker vom Tonfall her, nur der Dialekt fehlt
Vermisst du den Dönitz?
@@Bjoern020184 ne...du?
Gleiche Ideologie, gleiche Monstren.
Malti Moto...ja, die Fistelstimme von Erich und Ulbricht. Ätzend!
@@benediktluders7287 ...ah ja, Nazis sind DDR Kommunisten,alles klar!
What happened in Germany during the Nazi era is not a purely German phenomenon. It's a human one.
it happened mostly in Eastern Europe, in order the general German population would not know too much.
@@nkristianschmidt It happened in the ears and in front of the eyes of the German population.
That they accepted this required prepared brainwashing.
That argument is substantially contradicted by the inescapable historical facts. The Nazis first and foremost were voted into power by the German people at a time when their anti-Jew, anti-Treaty of Versailles views were literally central to their manifesto, they were supported fervently by the German population in the industrial revival and the rapid escalation of their military in contravention of the treaty, they were silent about the enabling act which increased Hitlers power, they were silent on Kristallnacht, they were throwing flowers and waving flags in the streets when the invasions of other European countries began, they attended the rallies, volunteered for the military and many benefitted from or at least were very aware of the extermination camps and the persecution of Jews and other minorities. Somewhere within all that backdrop there are a lot of people who should never have been allowed to absolve themselves by virtue of the “human nature” or “mass brainwashing” excuses. The fact remains that the German people put their shoulder to the wheel of an evil regime.
Yes it’s an example of what humans can do but there were many other examples prior to the Nazis that an educated population like the Germans could have learned from.
@@miwo2251 no, it happened in Eastern Europe
@@nkristianschmidt Wir können es auch in unserer Muttersprache. Sie haben sich schlecht oder einseitig informiert: Jeder wusste damals, was geschieht! Erst wurden die Kommunisten und Sozis, die Gewerkschafter, dann die Schwulen und nicht zuletzt auch die Juden deportiert und in die Kz´s verbracht. Dachau und Bergen Belsen befinden sich auf deutschem Gebiet, um nur einige Lager zu nennen. Die Juden wurden aus ihren Wohnungen auf die Strassen getrieben. Es gab die Reichskristallnacht. Alles im Kernland. Die Euthanasie tötete "unwertes" Leben. Das alles konnte man und hat man nicht übersehen und war der Bevölkerung bekannt. Dass Gleiches auch in Ost-, West- und Südeuropa durchgeführt wurde, ist aber leider auch richtig.
This is an interview or a trial?
That was my thinking too, when i start wathcing this
18:00 Herr Speer sure was a lucky bastard and he knew it.
Writing edited post-war diaries absolving yourself of all guilt while smearing your buddies with lies will do that. It was all a show trial obviously.
When you essentially re-instate Slavery, send thousands on death marches, were a vitral part of Germanys military production and where Hitlers best friend but you only gace 20 years
SPEER MOMENT
@@cippy5450 He did re-institute slavery but he didn't send anyone to "death marches." What good are dead slaves? Speer needed production, not corpses, and anyone who did die of disease or exhaustion would've first fulfilled their purpose.
What about the lucky US-Bastards in Vietnam?
There is something to be said for taking responsibility for one actions, and so the judge said twenty years is fair... I agree.
I’m reading the Nuremberg Trials right and am at the point where they are selecting the defendants and cannot understand how Doenitz was included. He was just doing his job.
Because Adolf named him his successor, and as such, Doenitz never prosecuted the well known criminals that he knew were already fleeing to South America or elsewhere. Perhaps he didn't have time. Executing Doenitz for being a good Admiral would have been a real injustice, though.
Seriously? The “just doing his job” was these criminals main defense line during the trials. That and “I didnt know.”
@@ryanbrown6335 ....LoL. Agree.
@@ryanbrown6335 Look, Donitz was a military man in the navy. Mostly the military, were not necessarily Nazis. Herman Goering was both. It’s very plausible to have been an antisemite, but not know the genocide going on in four or five distinct extermination camps in Poland. Three of them were destroyed before the allies got there. Treblinka , Sobibor and Belzec were destroyed and were in Poland. However mistreatment , persecution and detention of the Jews in Europe no one denies . Even Holocaust deniers don’t deny that.
@@ryanbrown6335 “just doing his job” is a VALID thing though. What the hell is an Admiral suppose to do, surrender? It’s WAR for crying out loud... and Doenitz is not a criminal... using the same flawed logic, EVERY ALLIED Admiral is a criminal. See how stupid and flawed that argument is now.... use your brain.
@4:10 It's not just the characteristic of an authoritarian state-it's the characteristic of a bureaucracy, regardless of the type of government, but also, in the private sector. Once an organization gets big enough, it forms bureaucracies to carry out tasks-groups rigidly and hierarchically organized. And the bureaucrat can hide behind the rules, the ordinances, the policy book, to evade responsibility. "I gotta do like the book says!"
if you cant see yet, it is the essential of ANY STATE! authoritarianism by tributes
use bitcoin
Yes it's always been that way and it always will be
@theBaron0530
Wow! It sounds like you are describing the Mormon Church, here!
(And, if you don't know anything about 'that' bizarre hierarchy, believe me when I say that, in it, you will find everything that you just described, in your comment!)
the two men speak so differently
Wow great video, very informative!
Speer was, would have been the perfect top manager. No qualms at all to do the worst to weaker or unlucky men,, attractive appearance, eloquent, efficient doer.
Dönitz war ein guter Politiker und Opportunist dem der Anstand und der Mut fehlt ehrlich zu sich selbst und seinen Mitmenschen zu sein. Mehr kann man zu ihm nicht sagen.
Falsch, er hat sogar Befehle missachtet und die Leute aus Preußen rausgeholt, gegen dem Befehl hitlers
Nein, wen sie beschreiben ist Speer, der sein Hintern retten wollte und das gesagt hat, was die Alliierten hören wollten. Ein unehrenhafter Lügner !
Sagen wir lieber, er war ein schlauer Politiker...
Er war ein ängstlicher Lügner
Irgendwie könnte ich Albert Speer mehrere Std zuhören ... so eine klare ruhige und angenehme Stimme! Kp er macht irgendwie einen recht netten Eindruck 😅
Speer is 0% appealing to me in this vid. Doenitz seems like a military man caught in a trap. At least Speer spent more time in jail than Doenitz. I'll read his (Doenitz's) book.
To me Speer is much more appealing because he appears smart, calm and collected. I can see why he was one of few top nazis that got away with their crimes. Because he is super charismatic. Also he had a profession that was actually useful post-war to rebuild Germany many of the other top nazis were all military men that were of no use in peacetime.
Germans prisoners were put to work here in the USA. The house next door to my parents was built by German POWs.
A geezer I worked with around 1970 was a guard at a POW camp. He said German POWs would pick rotten tomatoes and chuck them in a pot for Campbell's soup.
The area was in the boondocks then. Now it's swanky strip malls. Route 12 and Cuba road. In Illinois.
From my research i think donitz fought a clean war. He saved many lives and the end of the war. His book was a good read. Speer definitely had a hand in the evils but i don't think he really had much of a choice. He turned a blind eye at what was happening
Everyone turned a blind eye. That's the survival instinct working within the machine. No government or corporation lacks it.
Speer was licking Hitler's backside from 1931. The guy designed concentration camps, that's a bit more than turning a blind eye. Doenitz was a career Navy man from WW1. He turned a blind eye. Speer built the machine.
@@mynamename5172 Doenitz was too busy running the navy and waging warfare. He may have been privy to some information or loose talk, but had no idea as to the full extent of the Nazi crimes until appointed President and thereafter. And if he was aware of it, what could he do about it? Welcome to the machine.
Donitz asked for 700 u boats and had about 30 at the start of the war and came THAT CLOSE to winning it for germany!
He had every choice
Damn, Speers eyebrows. More hair than Donitz’s head.
Kung Fu master combover in the making.
Thats nothing.
Search for theodor waigel. This guy has/had some man-bushes!
Herr Admiral Dönitz..A real legend.. ❤️😎🍀🙏
Ein übler Verbrecher war das! Unfassbar so ein Kommentar und ein Schlag ins Gesicht aller Opfer! Schämen Sie sich!!!
@@Boing747ize
Heul doch 😂
Just like Hitler and Himmler
@@Boing747ize War Karl Dönitz von Anklagepunkt 4 im Nürnberger Prozess betroffen?
Wirklich interessant
Would really like to watch this . But when you have white subtitles against white table cloths. Impossible ..
Learn german 😆😆
I’m in the process of learning to speak Finnish , Hungarian , Georgian , Chinese , Japanese , eventually learn German , just in case it happens again .🈵🈹🈴㊗️
What do you suggest?
Yellow text in black box ?
Off white in a white box , close to the original as possible .
@@williamlovelady7217 how are you learning so many languages at the same time?
Albert Speer's honesty and willingness to tell the Nuremberg Courts the actual reasons for the Third Reich are the reasons for his sentence. The Russian judges just wanted him hanged and cared nothing for the truth, but the American and British judges were much more reasonable in accepting all he had to say regarding all that happened during World War II.
Albert Speer's impression to the court judges with his honest statements as to all that had happened was the reason for the fair judgments and final sentence made against him.
What about the French Judges?
@@luxembourgishempire2826 They were probably in line with the American and British judges in their decisions. It was the Russian judges who wanted everyone hanged.
Am amazed by the tidiness, cozyness of Dönitz' home. He even had a holy cross erect on a side table. Wonder who lives there now. The stern voice of the interviewer sounds very inquisitive while probably only adjusting to Dönitz' loss of hearing.
I can actually understand Dönitz mindset. It's like many Germans I know. They are extremely efficient and proud of their work, so it's impossible for them to recognize they are doing something morally wrong, as they are doing it efficiently.
Dönitz was actually rabidly anti-Semitic, so I do not understand his mindset.
@@KarstenOkk Come to work in Germany and you understand my comment. You go into meetings where you reach logic and efficient conclusions. Morality is not a parameter in these engineering minds, so they have achieved the optimal solution.
History is written by victors
I know some historians who are not victors: they are Yves, Robert, Henri, Jean, Anthony, Pavel etc
But the records exist
BS. Empty slogan. Germany was not destroyed and all Germans were not wiped out, as in ancient times. The Germans rebuilt their country, yet they acknowledge that things went terribly wrong back then and take the blame for it too, as they should. A huge amount of testimony and evidence exists irrespective of who the victor was. Facts remain facts.
What the US air command did over Japan dwarfs any minor breach of war etiquette poor Doenitz was ever guilty of.
The difference is he was on the losing side...
Don't start wars of aggression and then whine about being annihilated for it. Famous quote - "You sowed the wind and now you will reap the whirlwind."
@@al5422 yep Hitlers world tour, bugger should have stayed home.
Actually Curtis LeMay said as much after the war.
"The victor will never be asked if he told the truth".....Adolf Hitler.
Speer bester Mann !
Jaja... Die Geschichte vom "Guten Nazi"
Dacht ich mir auch. Stabiler Typ und hat nichts von sich gewießen was er getan hat. Einfach mal Eier gezeigt.
@@Fichte03 du bist eher ne Null Nummer
Bin richtig froh,dass wir heute solche tolle,gutausgebildete Politiker haben,die unser Land so klasse führen !
Satire?
@@MyChemtrailIch musste auch überlegen. Aber ich denke schon 😂 hoffentlich 😅
He calculated by giving prisioners 2 peices of bread per day , he could maximize the time to work them to death for the least cost.
Bless Albert speer2
@Roger Waters Absolute maggot.
@@markskelton2693 you serious?.… If so go back in time as one of his slave workers, you tool
Who cares?
@@hakapeszimaki8369 except hospitals, help for people in need, public amenities for the good of all, ext, ext
The German POW generals whose conversations were taped proved that the vast majority knew exactly what was happening within the concentration camps throughout the war. Though many thought it best to hide their true feeling especially during the first half of the War when the rewards were readily accepted
This video is underrated.
The first concentration camp was opened in 1933, in the city of Dachau. It was announced in newspapers across Germany.
thats interesting. can you provide a source for this?
Wrong, the first was in USA
British? (Boer-wars)
Keep in mind, there is a big difference between concentration camps and extermination camps.
yes, but it was not announced as death camp, nor were death camps present until the war started, then mostly in Poland away from the German public, and not with announcements in the papers. KZs were at first just prisons to scare the opposition. Later, and accelerated after food became really scarce due to poor economic policies, it was decided to start murdering whole families. The general German public did not know about the death camps in Poland, but everyone knew about the KZs in Germany of course.
Funny how back in the day Porsche was "the Volkswagen guy".
it means the peoples car. he designed it taking note from the czech tatra automobile. type 1, also known as the beetle. the porsche sports car came after the war. so yeah, he was the volks guy first and foremost.
I read Speer's book, Inside the Third Reich many years ago. He was a very smart man.. smart enough to know what he was doing, and what was going on around him.
With what is known today, he would have been sentenced to death in 1946 in any case
Absolutely. He might not have been the most convinced Nazi, but he was a great Opportunist. Just as Werner von Braun. As an aspiring Engineer I was at a seminar in university dealing with more like the sociologic stuff that surrounds engineers/technicians like responcibility of your actions and stuff. We discussed both these men. Nazi documents clearly showed that Speer knew all along what was going on, he was giving the orders!, basically sending prisoners into working conditions that were their sure death. People were so willing to believe his lies after the war, because he was not the nasty shouting angry Nazi that they have seen so often.
@@skarbuskreska Oh absolutely. His ego and ambition were massive, and he had a gift for manipulation. He pretended to be contrite but I really don't think he was.
I still love Speer’s fantasy architecture.
"Germania" the New Reich Capital, would have looked great!
Bitte, wer ist der Mann, der um 18:04 spricht?
Karl Dönitz - Ehrenmann!
Herr Großadmiral
Karl Dönitz ‐ Nazi!
@Groß Admiral
Karl Dönitz - FASCHIST
Das ist wohl höchst ironisch gemeint!
@@achime.6645 Deine Zeugung?
Speer is either very sincere or very cunning...or both.
Cunning, but I easily see through him
First of all, he is cheeky and cynical.
Albert Speer war der größte Orpportunist.
Aber sehr selbstreflektiert.
Und Sie?
Unheimlich interessanter Zeitzeuge!
Er wird allgemein als nicht vertrauenswürdig eingestuft. Alles geschönt.
@@Nambo871 Nichts gegen die Aussagen der Angeklagten bei den Auschwitzprozessen. Schon mal reingehört?
Gibt es auch eine Dokumentation über die Pioniere der konzentrierten Lager, z B. die Briten in Südafrika - Buuren -, die Polen vor WKII mit Juden, Deutschen und Regimegegnern , den Gulags des Josef Stalin etc......? Erbitte dankenswerterweise Hinweise.
Ich habe gewartet.
Es gibt keine.
Der Sieger schreibt die Geschichte.
Punktum.
They both knew about the endlösung ... Post mortem, a lettre from Speer to his wife even mentioned these practices.
Da ziehe ich aber ganz *starke* parallelen zur *heutigen* ENGSTIRNIGKEIT " einiger " vieler in der Politik
Danke Jac für den interessanten Beitrag
Krasser Beitrag und sehr aufschlussreich !
But one of the greatest naval commanders in the history ✌️
Not just in history. But in Germany.
@@joshsuan4489 the fact his tactics still used by modern naval strategy and feared by many country is make him one of the greatest naval commanders. even uk has big navy but still overwhelmed by just bunch of submarine was amaze me...
few numbers, great tactics, less loss, unseen, silence, fear and despair. what more things he can get the tittle...?
Lol...What about Jelicoe or Nelson?
@@muhammadabdillah5094 yeah, but i'm not familiar of modern naval
@@manfredahrens5136 He said "one of the greatest.." Not "the greatest."
Arme alte Männer. Die Welt wird sie nicht vermissen, sie ist leider durch ihren Tod auch nicht besser geworden.
Pfeife! 🤦🏻♂️🤡Diese Männer haben Großes geleistet für unser Land. ⚫⚪🔴🛡️⚔️💪🏻
Excellent video imediatly subbed thankyou 👍
This is so surreal to see.
Yeah iam from germany and it is just crazy to think about what has happened not even 100 years ago, its just so fucked up.
I am extremely disturbed at the amount of Speerite apologists, conspiracy theorists, and straight up NN's in this comment section.
oyy veyyy
@@450b איך בין א בונדיסט
As a German with migration background I am amazed by the structure and precision Albert Speer has while talking. His language is crystal clear and easy to understand but at the same time he uses extreme let’s say “high-level” expressions which you’ll rarely find nowadays in Germany even among the more educated people. It shows me how beautiful the language could be if the person know the language really well.
Hitler gave a promtly order to Dønitz to shoot every enemy who lay in the water , and Karl refuse to give this order to his submariners. In my eyes, Karl were a hero, even though his uboats killed around 3000 norwegians during the war, and sunk alot of norwegian ships. Im a norwegian
An antisemite hero? Nah he was weak or hateful, he may have been good at sea wars, but that's not always heroic.
Bedankt Jac- most interesting film of interviews with these two men,
raising really challenging questions about their guilt and complicity in the events surrounding the Nazi regime!
danke für dieses Dokument, Großadmiral Doenitz ist mein großes Vorbild!! Lest das Buch" Zehn Jahre und zwanzig Tage"
Why the english parts are not german dubbed? :D
My dad's ship was torpedoed in the War so naturally he referred to Donitz as an "old bastard" when this interview came out,as I remember.My grandad was in WW1 and I remember him saying that the Germans were "very very clever",referring to their tactics I suppose.
the USAF dropping bombs on german cities were bastards too. Both were bastards
@@cesargijon Germans building death camps were bastards too, see you top that one.
@@Darktemplar99999 read my post. Both. Only bastards drop bombs on the elderly, the children and the teenage girls. USAF, RAF and Luftwaffe=bastards.
Die Geschichte wird von den Siegern geschrieben und die Justiz wird von den Siegern gemacht.
@Ichvergessdenehh Keine Frage!
Und doch war Deutschland der schlimmste Aggressor aller Zeiten mit dem grausamsten Völkermord aller Zeiten.
@@hasan6711 Erzähl das den Indianern.
@@frankgeiermeyer8250 Es heißt Ureinwohner, nicht Indianer.
@@hasan6711 Oder doch besser UreinwohnerInnen? Von einem User namens Hasan lasse ich mir wohl kaum vorschreiben, wie ich mich in meiner eigenen Sprache auszudrücken habe, also erspar mir bitte Deine linksversiffte "political correctness".
Alle bezeichnen Albert Speer als Schleimer, aber wenigstens gibt er zu dass er opportunistisch war. Jeder idiot kann hier auf schlau machen, aber die aller wenigsten hätten an Speers stelle nein gesagt.
Leider hat Speer nicht alles wirklich zugegeben. Es sind in den vergangenen Jahren weitere Details bekanntgeworden, die Speer noch schlechter aussehen lassen.
Da Speer verurteilt wurde und die gerichtliche Strafe abgesessen hatte, hätte er noch viel ehrlicher sein können. Er hätte kein zweites Mal für die Sache angeklagt werden können.
Er hatte somit meiner Auffassung nach, die Chance verpaßt, noch viel schonungsloser für Aufklärung zu sorgen. Leider hat er es nicht getan.
@@ButscheSchmidt Da ist vermutlich auch viel Selbstverleugnung dabei, ich glaube viele Leute zu der Zeit wollen sich auch nicht eingestehen was sie Furchtbares getan haben.
In this age of strict legal standards, it's hard to believe that anyone can attach any value to the Nuremburg show-trials. It was just the winning side getting revenge. "Victor's justice", as someone rightly described it.
It was, however, at least a trial. Those vanquished in most wars where one side was completely occupied never had any chance to defend themselves. If they couldn't flee far enough, they were just summarily killed.
I do think, however, that the Nuremburg precedent that one is responsible for rejecting orders is a bad precedent. First of all, front line-line soldiers are not lawyers and should not be expected to understand whether an order is legal or not. And while praise is deserved for those who thwart an illegal or inhumane order, the responsibility for such an order executed should fall on the individual who originated it, not the ones who passed it along or carried it out. At least this is my opinion.
I believe Speer and Dönitz that they were not the driving force behind the holocaust and I also believe them that they set their focus on their career and military job respectively, not wanting to know exactly how Hitler wanted to destroy the Jews.
But that makes this interview both so important for some and so dangerous for others. Important because you realize how people become willing part of the most horrible crimes (at the very least indirectly) just because things turn out that way, a lesson some companies should think more about when they don't feel responsible for their supply chains. And dangerous because this can lead to a certain fascination of those individuals and this may act as an "entry drug" for upcoming neo-nazis.
I am not sure whether we need more or less of this kind of interview aired but I found it very interesting to watch.
Wrong wrong. Read good books about Speer. Speer knew everything. Hé was a big lyer
@@marcellojune63
Sorry for not being clear. With not wanting to know, I didn't mean they didn't know but that they didn't want to have anything to do with it.
Like I know bad things are happening in Chinese Concentration camps but go my daily life without thinking about it. Buying products that probably went through them in the supply chain.
The english translation ist often incorrect and dramatising
Die Übersetzung ist gut ich kann keine Fehler erkennen. Wo ist sie inkorrekt?
@@quikzome6973 Viele eklige Kleinigkeiten: ZB. wird "Judentum" immer als "jewish race" übersetzt (6.18 etc)
Both are such fascinating higly intelligent people its so fascinating to hear them talk about WW2 and the Nazi Regime
Es ist immer wieder interessant und ich glaube beiden, das sie dachten im KZ geht es nicht alt zu schlecht zu.
Speer was a very lucky man, he got away with the blood of thousands on his hands!
Subtitles ate way too small to read..
If I had to interview the admiral of the Kriegsmarine we probably wouldn't be talking about Jews.
Interessante Stimme des Interviewers. Hört sich an wie Paolo Pinkel Cuseng.
Albert Speer war als Rüstungsminister viel mehr mit Zwangsarbeit und der Organisation in den Arbeitslagern befasst, als Admiral Dönitz. Daraus erklärt sich das Schuldbekenntnis von Albert Speer und das Unschuldsbewusstsein von Karl Dönitz.
The only issue with watching or reading anything that Speer has to say..is that he changes the truth to make him more likable to the Allies. After WW2 was over, he basically jumped to the Allies side and said whatever they wanted him to say to reduce his sentence, etc. Doenitz is telling the truth from his heart and you can tell because he is so animated as when compared to Speer, the calm and calculated responses. I've read things that Speer supposedly said before/during the war and then after the war his story changed. He's not consistent. The Nuremberg trials were a joke and a display of Jewish revenge. The whole concentration camp subject isn't anything new during those times. Stalin had the worst camps (Gulags) in history but nothing is ever mentioned about him. FDR put the resident US Japanese (and some German)citizens in concentration camps during the war. Concentration camps were used everywhere in those days. The people who were at risk for the country were put in work camps to be watched so they couldn't hurt the country. All these pictures and videos of emaciated prisoners and dead prisoners was taken AFTER the war. The US and British air raids targeted roads, civilians, cities and railroads/tracks during their annihilation of Germany and their towns. When the transportation and railroads are destroyed - theres no food, supplies or medical supplies being delivered to the camps. This is what caused the starvation, and then the outbreak of Typhus. This is why most German soldiers say they have no knowledge of the Jews being killed in camps. One other fact regarding the camps after the war - when the US took control of the western part of Germany, the Red Cross came in and inspected the concentration camps in those areas in the west - they concluded that they were work camps. Stalin had control of all the camps to the east and he would not allow anyone into the camps after the war - the Red Cross was forbidden to inspect them. Stalin proclaimed those camps death camps. Interesting how the camps inspected by the Red Cross were work camps but the ones that weren't were labeled death camps by Stalin. The man responsible for the russian genocide, gulags, red army and the guy who turned on the Allies after WW2 was over and he got what he wanted. There are so many facts hidden in WW2 to make us look like the good guys its ridiculous - The atrocities/war crimes that the US/British/Russian troops did to the Germans are never talked about, Hell.. After the war Eisenhower crowded many German POWs into concentration camps and starved them because of his hatred for the Germans - this was definitely a war crime, but nothing came of it. (stepping down from my soapbox)
@Old Timer he is expressing his opinion ...don't rubbish everything just because u disagree with a part thereof
You couldn't of worded this any better there's so much that people dnt know about the war during and after the documentary the greatest story never told opened my eyes and it all made sense after watching this you won't find the truth from UA-cam or Google
@Old Timer mark fellton wouldn't be allowed on UA-cam if he told half the truth you only ever get told 1 side of this story always I wonder why ???
There's a great accurate book out there that explains in detail many things that we never hear or heard about the war. It's called "The Myth of German Villainy" by Benton Bradberry. This should be required reading for all regarding ww2. Highly recommend.
@Old Timer 😂🤣😂 maybe you need to listen to both sides of the story instead of just the 1 that you had drummed into your head all your life 😂🤣
Those who have researched these two men carefully get to know the actual truth of who they really were. They were both highly intelligent and highly skilled men who performed their duties extremely well. They were loyal to their country and were both placed in an awkward situation when they served under a ruthless tyrranical dictator. If they had refused to serve just imagine the possible consequences they & their families would have faced. Believe it or not I have concluded that I see NO EVIL within their hearts. I also believe Speer & Doenitz were both used by the regime for their talents and also many evil things going on behind the scenes were actually hidden from even members of the highest command. God will ultimately know & be the judge on their souls. Fascinating interviews!
I'm inclined to feel the same. They certainly knew at least some details of what was happening, but they choose not to "see". For some time it was like Germany was winning the war, and people on their position did not have many options. In the end, who wants to die... ?
about Donitz: he hashly blamed Salvatore Todaro, italian commander of a submarine who, after causing the shipwreck of a belgian steamer instead of letting the crew drowning took care of them hospiting all of them in his submarine (!!). This is Todaro's answer to Donitz: " A german commander does not have behind him two thousand years of civilization like I".
@Michael Kelly totally agree about the connection of Italian fascism with ancient rome, the first was a buffoonish and at the same time tragic version of the second, but I was talking about the human substance of commander Todaro - who was a relative of mine - against that of Donitz
@Michael Kelly exactly what Todaro meant. Doenitz, instead of Todaro, would have "carried out orders". All germans carried out orders, both in command of a warship and in the direction of a concentration camp.
Perhaps he should have been more careful about comparing the German history, he possibly did not know, with the Roman and Papistic and Macchiavelli morals, after he had read about Cesar in Gallia the Italian city wars or other examples? You don't need 2.000 years of history to be a rightous man! And even your Italian sub commander was serving a fascist regime, didn't he?😉 Still it is a courageous answer towards a falgofficer of a befriended Navy...👍🏻
Dönitz' standing order not to rescue victims of a sinking ship was the result of the Laconia incident in which German and Italian submarines displaying the red cross and in the process of rescuing passengers from a torpedoed vessel were attacked by American aircraft in 1942 (a war crime for which nobody was prosecuted). In Dönitz professional opinion, a commanding officer was more responsible for the lives of his crewmen and security of his ship than for the unfortunate passengers of a targeted vessel. A moral dilemma indeed, but a sound military perspective.
@@alanfriesen9837 didn't know the Laconia case, and i thank you for letting me know it. This, i admit, put under a new light the behaviour of Donitz. It makes me come the "principle of indetermination" of Heisenberg, like formulated from layer Riedenschneider in "the man who was not there" by Cohen bros ("sometimes the more you look, the less you know. It is a fact. It is proven.")
Admiral Speer a man of honor!!! Donitz was a soldier like Rommel
Nationalism and religious fundamentalism, incredible how people still consumer those two.
Same for socialism and atheism
@@Sshooter444 Only on your dreams. Socialism and atheism have nothing in common. Socialism is yet another ideology, atheism is a rejection of one. No one ever killed anyone in the name of atheism, while there are many examples of people killing millions in the name of socialism, religion, and nationalism. Atheism is not popular at all as more than 90% of human population is still religious. All those ideologies together with socialism are populistic and humans stick to them very easily because most humans are idiots basically so they need some fairy tale to believe, god or collective identity, heaven or justice on Earth.
Ein sehr intelligent mensch, Albert Speer.