Loneliness and Same Sex Attraction in the church

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  • @gdobsessed
    @gdobsessed 5 місяців тому +17

    This hit the nail on the head! I think in many ways you describe how older unmarried people in the church feel as well, the western church has placed such a huge value on marriage and western culture idolizes sex and romance that any path of life chosen outside of being in a romantic monogamous relationship is foreign and alienating and stigmatizes them. If the church would make its main focus on Jesus, serving one another, and reaching the lost, I think church would feel much more like a family and there would be harmony and fellowship and ministries that were much more inclusive toward people from all walks of life. I think this segregation is mostly based on the church being influenced by surrounding culture rather than establishing its own culture from the Word of God.

    • @christianconvos
      @christianconvos  5 місяців тому +4

      I completely agree! God bless!

    • @kmarie7051
      @kmarie7051 Місяць тому

      I'm not gay but I'm an atheist. I'm not a radical atheist or anything though and I have no problem with any religions and actually can see the value in some aspects of them, especially where monogamy and intact family units are concerned(providing one of the parents is not abusive). I don't think it should be forced on anyone or looked down on if you don't choose these things, but it's good to encourage it a bit.
      If a gay person truly does no want to be in a monogamous relationship or any relationship at all that fine. What I do find quite sad is when 've watched some videos where gay people have said they are a "born again christian" and no longer gay because it's a sin. I find this quite sad that in order to be what they deem "a good christian" they have had to give up on love. Being a none believer I guess I just cannot wrap my head around how a belief and religion could stop a person pursuing something that's a totally natural and beautiful thing and what could bring them great joy and happiness in life. Homosexuality is an innate biological thing that' you are born as. it's been shown in science studies and research that the evidence strongly indicates it;s biological and likely develops in the utero due to genes and hormonal exposure. A gay person dd not have a choice in being gay and it seems cruel to me that any religion would shame a person for it or make them believe it's wrong somehow.

  • @trainsupporter9088
    @trainsupporter9088 5 місяців тому +6

    I apologize for being late in responding, brother. This is such a great video and one that needs to be talked about more. It has been a lonely walk for sure...having this community has been a tremendous blessing for me.

  • @sushi9335
    @sushi9335 2 дні тому

    These videos hold such an important place in my heart. I have just committed myself to life long celibacy as a born again Christian and same-sex attracted man. Thank you for being open about your story. It is helping me so much

    • @christianconvos
      @christianconvos  День тому +1

      So glad to hear the video helped! God bless! :)

  • @LenniePike
    @LenniePike 5 місяців тому +4

    Well done Jack, you put much thought into this subject and you described many of the realities of living life as a ssa person. Being an introvert and not craving much social interaction, it has helped in navigating this lonely journey through life for me. It’s not hard to miss what you never had. If the truth of the gospel had never become known to me, I would be hopeless and miserable. Thank you Jesus for saving a wretch like me!

    • @christianconvos
      @christianconvos  5 місяців тому +1

      Thank you Rick! I agree, without The Gospel, I'd definitely be hopeless as well. God bless!

  • @ForeverSeekingChristTV
    @ForeverSeekingChristTV 5 місяців тому +1

    This was a great video. I love that you talked about the topic of Marriage

  • @shazzaam5251
    @shazzaam5251 4 місяці тому +1

    Thanks so much for this video! this is something that i have been wrestling with and it makes a world of difference hearing that there is a community to share these feelings with. I hope one day i can do the same for others

    • @christianconvos
      @christianconvos  4 місяці тому

      So glad to hear that it helped Sharon :) God bless!

  • @bobowon5450
    @bobowon5450 5 місяців тому +5

    as an asexual christian I always get very interesting reactions because its like
    "sex is a sin!"
    me: "i don't want sex"
    them: "wait...like not at all?"
    me"nope" them: "b...but...that's weird?"
    me: "yeah i guess"

    • @christianconvos
      @christianconvos  5 місяців тому +1

      People always get tripped up about things that don't go exactly with what they feel the "norm" is. People will just always find something to pick apart lol. God bless!

    • @lollalofi3933
      @lollalofi3933 4 місяці тому

      this is actually funny because Jesus said that some people won't expierence sexual urges at all, yet people act as if you are weird

    • @ChillySummer-uc4fq
      @ChillySummer-uc4fq 4 місяці тому

      This a huge problem in the church since Jesus and Paul did not get married or have sex.

    • @jaredthebeloved1
      @jaredthebeloved1 2 місяці тому

      you must get a lot of things done!

    • @bobowon5450
      @bobowon5450 2 місяці тому

      @@jaredthebeloved1 i managed to buy a house in 2022 in canada so .....yeah :)

  • @memoiresieb5395
    @memoiresieb5395 4 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for this sober commentary, I appreciate the honesty. Loneliness it seems has ironically become a very common thing in our world. Regardless of who you are, single or not, the only person who can heal loneliness is Jesus.

  • @juliogomez7744
    @juliogomez7744 5 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for this video ❤

    • @christianconvos
      @christianconvos  5 місяців тому +1

      I hope it helped! God bless you Julio!

  • @TylerTree12345
    @TylerTree12345 5 місяців тому +1

    ❤❤❤! Thanks Jack 🤗 Nailed it!

  • @TruckerRobbert
    @TruckerRobbert 5 місяців тому +3

    Hi Jack! Again another very helpfull video! Seems like the Holy Spirit is speaking through you

    • @christianconvos
      @christianconvos  5 місяців тому +1

      So good to hear from you Robbert! Hope all has been well :) God bless!

  • @MURPH-uw6dy
    @MURPH-uw6dy 5 місяців тому

    Good video looking forward to the next keep up good work love you and your channel

    • @christianconvos
      @christianconvos  5 місяців тому +1

      Thank you Ben, God bless!

    • @MURPH-uw6dy
      @MURPH-uw6dy 5 місяців тому

      @@christianconvos thank you . Your welcome. God bless you family all an sleepy head murph lol

  • @Nirvanafanboy1991
    @Nirvanafanboy1991 5 місяців тому +1

    This was very helpful thank you so much!

  • @soymour7
    @soymour7 4 місяці тому +1

    Hello, i appreciate you having the strength to make this video.... Its really an ipen minded video from a christian persoective, i usually try to bring people to christ but whenever an lgbtq person coemes to me and questions me I try to answer them the best I could answer but this video gives me an answer on how this people feel and the greta thing is its christian perspective so i cab have a christian answer concerning this matter, God bless you, All glory to Jesus

    • @christianconvos
      @christianconvos  4 місяці тому +1

      So glad to hear the video helped! God bless!

    • @soymour7
      @soymour7 4 місяці тому

      @@christianconvos yeahh, btw can I email you? I wanna know more info about same sex attraction though, if it's fine with you my friend

    • @christianconvos
      @christianconvos  4 місяці тому +1

      Of course! My email is in the description page for my channel as well as at the end of my videos. God bless!

  • @Leef853
    @Leef853 5 місяців тому +6

    I don't struggle with same sex attraction I feel lonely all the time. I've never been in a relationship and never had friends. My only friends are in youtube coments

    • @christianconvos
      @christianconvos  5 місяців тому +3

      Very sorry to hear you’ve been feeling lonely Leef. Loneliness is something that unfortunately affects us all. Will be praying for you 🙏 God bless!

    • @the.seagull.35
      @the.seagull.35 5 місяців тому +1

      You make good videos, I think you've got the Holy Spirit speaking through you. Keep going. Follow Jesus ✝️🙏

    • @br.m
      @br.m 5 місяців тому +1

      Hello... I too don't struggle with same sex attraction. However, I have struggled with loneliness in the past. The loneliest I ever felt was when in a relationship.
      If you are really lonely, don't you have a church community near you?

  • @cratencasey90
    @cratencasey90 5 місяців тому +1

    What a good video, thank you for making these videos, reminds me that I'm not alone in this struggle of homosexuality.

  • @gpt76
    @gpt76 5 місяців тому +1

    Very well stated, Jack

  • @lollalofi3933
    @lollalofi3933 4 місяці тому

    i'm not someone who is attracted to the same sex but i really found this video comforting. i struggle with loneliness sometimes and often i don't really know what the root is. but the 3 point you made actually helped me to understand myself better!

  • @shashamunzara3192
    @shashamunzara3192 5 місяців тому +1

    When Jesus was alone, something told Him to jump from a tall building. Our confession would have been that we were feeling suicidal, but He identified that thing to be Satan therefore he rebuked it by confessing the true Word of God and it had to flee from Him. Resist the devil and he will flee. I'm going to share a devotion on this topic on my channel later on in the week.

  • @Faithtalk4bros
    @Faithtalk4bros 5 місяців тому +1

    I couldn't agree more, bro.

  • @otisbay12
    @otisbay12 5 місяців тому

    Good job

  • @henryc6137
    @henryc6137 3 місяці тому

    This is something I'm struggling with a lot now, I am trying to have faith again since I became an unbeliever as a teenager. In my 20s now and I feel Christ is calling me back. Struggling with same sex attraction and I have no Christian friends or community, I think finding a community that relates to me would help immensely. If anyone knows of any such communities online please let me know

    • @christianconvos
      @christianconvos  3 місяці тому

      Hello Henry, I am sorry to hear you're struggling. If you would like to join our discord page, feel free to send me an email! I know that this struggle can seem hard, but there are definitely more people out there who are going through the same thing. God bless!

    • @henryc6137
      @henryc6137 3 місяці тому

      @@christianconvos thank you. I can’t seem to find the discord link, are you able to send it?

  • @enardski-nardski303
    @enardski-nardski303 5 місяців тому

    Good vid my broski!

  • @JasonOnEarth
    @JasonOnEarth 5 місяців тому

    Yes, I think of 1 Corinthians 7:7+. We each have our own needs and our own paths in this life (gifts)

  • @kanelowrey5172
    @kanelowrey5172 3 місяці тому

    It’s hard, even though I’ve been in a church that my Dad was a pastor I never felt a part of the church. Cause of my SSA it precludes me from being part of a church community. For most people in their 20’s or 30’s are either married or on their way to getting married and are straight. Community is more of a feeling I guess and I haven’t really felt it tbh. Maybe once or twice, but not an ongoing thing.

    • @christianconvos
      @christianconvos  3 місяці тому

      I understand Kane, I feel like those of us who struggle with SSA are the people who need it the most and unfortunately are shown it the least. Will be praying for you, God bless!

  • @eduardomerino8098
    @eduardomerino8098 Місяць тому

    I am also gay myself. But i have a strong relationship with Jesus. It is hard because men are so gorgeous.

  • @youaintmymommaonperiodt8007
    @youaintmymommaonperiodt8007 5 місяців тому +1

    Can you do a video about depression as a Christian?
    It’s been a very rough year for me and I kinda lost the ability to just want to keep going.
    I don’t have an appetite for the things of God anymore if I’m being honest, and I feel disconnected to Him in all aspects of life.
    I don’t have that "fire" in me anymore to serve Him, I’m just tired man.
    (Also I sent an email to ask for an invite to the discord, but it’s saying the invitation expired)

    • @christianconvos
      @christianconvos  5 місяців тому

      Very sorry to hear you've been struggling, I will try to do a video on the subject. If the request timed out, just send me another email and I'll send another invite! I think it times out after a certain number of days or something. God bless!

    • @podcasthastings9501
      @podcasthastings9501 5 місяців тому +1

      "I don’t have an appetite for the things of God anymore" Well, it's actually good news: you'll finally be able to live your life happily, in complete freedom, and fully enjoy all aspects of life.

  • @mellymetanoia2851
    @mellymetanoia2851 5 місяців тому

    Such a great video! Is it okay if i joined your Discord?

    • @christianconvos
      @christianconvos  5 місяців тому +1

      Thanks Melly! Of course! Just send me an email and I’ll send you an invite. God bless!

  • @terryburns
    @terryburns 5 місяців тому

    I am sorry that I haven't wrote to you for awhile but I just seem to be getting alot of people telling me I am wrong for getting on this channel.

  • @terryburns
    @terryburns 5 місяців тому

    I am going to keep watching and learning from you because you are a great person as well as a great teacher to. I love you very much. God will keep you in his grace because like i said you are a great teacher i dont care how old you are you are great.

  • @terryburns
    @terryburns 5 місяців тому

    I wish you could tell me why people tell me i am so wrong for getting on this channel because i really like to listen to you.

    • @christianconvos
      @christianconvos  5 місяців тому

      Hello Terry, I unfortunately don't have that answer. If you enjoy watching this channel, awesome! That is your decision to do so. If you choose not to, that is okay too. God bless!

  • @fangomegawolf1058
    @fangomegawolf1058 5 місяців тому

    I would like to join the discord but im not sure how to find it

  • @dnval.6467
    @dnval.6467 3 місяці тому

    Hi brother how are you. I’m Christian and I was also struggling with desires for the same sex but the thing is that Romans chapter 1: 24-27 shows us that humanity were corrupted by sin and distancing from God Lead them walk away from the plans and patterns that God has created the consequences of this were people engaging a passion desires of the flesh that goes against this plan and standards of God for humanity and in consequence people were born with desires for the same sex even if they didn’t have experienced same sex relationships as young children so for me I think than disobeying God we should see if we love him more than continue in sin and apart from the practices that He clearly condemn and live a life without sex if we can’t commit to a man and woman relationship as God plan.

  • @J3SUS487
    @J3SUS487 5 місяців тому

    True. Very real. More men should be more honest! At least you are! Stay true. JESUS has got you. Be not afraid of them.

  • @joncerda351
    @joncerda351 5 місяців тому

    Keep the faith, brother. Prayer is the key

  • @AlithesisKrukonova-hk2ws
    @AlithesisKrukonova-hk2ws Місяць тому

    I cannot believe you're single because you're good-looking I don't think it will be difficult for you to find a partner but to each his own choices so whatever makes you happy it just make it more difficult when you get older you have more insecurities I am 57 and the last time I had a bf was when I was 35 so it's been a long time but I used to being alone after that channeling to things I wanna do except being sorry and insecure am grateful to what I have done and with what I have am more introverted though so am used doing things alone.

  • @stephenpaul3289
    @stephenpaul3289 5 місяців тому

    We have to learn to be Married to Yahweh and Yashua

  • @podcasthastings9501
    @podcasthastings9501 5 місяців тому +1

    The energy that certain people can put into voluntarily making themselves unhappy because of perfectly imaginary constraints is incomprehensible, when it is so simple to live one's passions joyfully. Just refuse to obey, and you will be free.

  • @matthewguertin8175
    @matthewguertin8175 5 місяців тому

    Hi Christian how can we draw closer as believers in fellowship?

    • @christianconvos
      @christianconvos  5 місяців тому

      Hello Matthew, I have found connecting, praying for each other, and creating a sense of community to be helpful for both myself and others God bless!

  • @ECLECTRIC_EDITS
    @ECLECTRIC_EDITS 5 місяців тому +1

    Have a sort of different problem. Ive already had sex with girls before I found Jesus but im in this weird limbo where I don't want to start dating secular girls again if ill end up committing adultery but I also don't want to date niave virgin girls who go to Church because I feel like my past sort of disqualifies me and I know too much to keep things pure. I know the end game is marriage but I don't know if I can hold out that long. Women are so beautiful and compassionate. I love getting to know them but I really hate commitment unless it's big picture/the ideal companion.

    • @christianconvos
      @christianconvos  5 місяців тому

      Hello Eclectric Edits, regarding dating, I might not have the best advice. However, I think that your mentality of truly wanting to get to know women for who they are before rushing into commitment is a good mentality to have! God bless!

  • @user-vm5yk2js6w
    @user-vm5yk2js6w 5 місяців тому +1

    Of course you can believe whatever you want.
    But living a celibacy that is not voluntarily, but out of guilt for being homosexual, a natiral healthy born sexual orientation with an evolutionary meaning, isn't healthy.
    I hope one day you will understand that and find a loving same sex partner and maybe adopt kids that elsewise dont have parents.

  • @Maksie0
    @Maksie0 5 місяців тому +5

    There's nothing wrong with being gay. The only thing stopping you from finding happiness with a partner is your religion-induced shame.

    • @Online-Making-money741
      @Online-Making-money741 5 місяців тому

      Being addicted to pleasure and sex shows that your weak and you lack discipline.

    • @joey5594
      @joey5594 5 місяців тому +1

      No the bible tells us it's a sin

    • @Maksie0
      @Maksie0 5 місяців тому

      @@joey5594 Don't care

  • @ShiniGuraiJoker
    @ShiniGuraiJoker 5 місяців тому

    The loniless in marriage in part is the terrible teachings if 1 Corinthians 7:9 AND bad Christian dating advice. Don't get married because one is "lustful." Get married because you believe and are committed in building a life together.
    Churches can be a toxic place of not being heard or listened too at times. The age old trope of reas more and pray harder is thebcop-put when Christians don't really want to engage.
    Accept yourself for who you are. I stopped believing in the Christian god, so I cannot offer religious advice. But when you can truly love yourself and not push down what makes you, you; the world changes dramatically and for the better.

  • @user-li1yr8md2g
    @user-li1yr8md2g 5 місяців тому

    DO You have the community on Facebook !! i need group chat :(

    • @christianconvos
      @christianconvos  5 місяців тому

      Hello Huy! I don't have it on facebook, but you can email me and I can add you to the discord group if you would like! God bless!