*"This is a Thank You note on behalf of Alka: "Thank you everyone for your patience, love and inputs on the podcast. Hope we will be back soon with more fun topics to discuss. Thank you all very much."* *Time Stamp:* 00:00 - Introduction 00:46 - Emmy Noether Shout-out 02:17 - Storytelling, Story & Narrative 08:12 - Storytelling through Sculpture 19:23 - Nested Narratives & The Period Eye 24:22 - Dil Se, Chaiyya Chaiyya & Indian Classical Music 40:03 - Storytelling through Paintings 46:48 - Artist as a Historian 50:15 - Academic Approach and Linguistic Gap in Science Communication 01:01:20 - Pablo Picasso’s ‘Guernica’ 01:23:35 - Developing Reading habits 01:31:06 - Reading Recommendations
This is probably my favorite podcast out of the three. It's always nice when people who talk about films branch out to paintings, history, and narrative. It's rare that a film video makes you finally pick up that Milan Kundera book you would probably never have read otherwise. Isn't that the way it should be, though?
What a podcast!!! :) The feeling is so strange, we share an eerily similar taste in books... Most of the books you mentioned meant something special to me in my reading journey!
I and my sister were listening to this and at a point we started to wonder why are they not discussing about movies.. but as you guys said, the discussion didn't lead one to gain an idea of who is better, but the knowledge of different things... And so I am glad I heard this.... Haven't heard anything like this so far..
Cinema is a cumulative art. So I thought it would be better to talk about stuff that lead to cinema instead of just talking about movies. My next guest will also attempt something similar. So stay tuned :)
Maybe I am too pessimistic, but I don't see hindi movie industry recovering from the 90s cinema anytime soon. Reason is that the same period was when many homes got tvs and started watching movies or going to theatres even in small cities. So that cinema was first exp of big screen for a lot of people. Also the industry specific part is that the players who established themselves in the industry during the 90s are still enjoying a lot of power.
Please make video on your top fav 2017 and 2018 movies. We have been waiting for so long. You really changed my prospective towards film watching. Me and my friends watch all your movie recommendations.
As so many of the stories which we get from TV/web series is reflection of the stories which storyteller wanted to say. It hardly gives space for audiences. The mirror and west world for example are fantastic in their way of narration and audiences can voyage across their own imagination... Idk but a certain elements of curiosity and the unanswered questions in narration gratify my desire of entertainment...
What about the western classical music , isn't it conparable to Indian classical or charnatic music . And how do you go about comparing these two great traditions.
Guernica rebuts the reactionary belief that political art can only be social realist and that modernist art can never be public. It is said that a Nazi officer asked Picasso in front of Guernica “ Did you do that?”. Picasso replied ,”No. You did .”
*Reply on Alka's Behalf:* Yes, Guernica does that, just as you put it, and so well. Thank you for pointing it out. The little story about the Nazi officer is great too: a pithy anecdote that has long circulated about the painting and the painter -- clever and cutting at once. Though I should add here that it's probably apocryphal (as the best of these often are). There's no historical knowledge/evidence of such an interchange. Although I wish, too, that there were -- so clever it is. :-)
See like I do agree that Shah Rukhs presence in Dil Se had i wont say overpowered but his was the greater part than Manisha's Role as Meghana. He was this obsessive lover, the rawness within him it was kind far behind his restraint performances like in Swades and had a kind of flawed potrayal of love and yeah but i am sorry i really didnot understand purpose of Preity Zinta's character or her potrayal.But I feel Manisha had a range of emotions and there is a scene in the film where she is like hiding all her emotions within and she is unable to like close her mouth ,etc but yeah she was kinda volatile but yeah her character arch could have done better it was kinda rushed in the end but a romantic tragic end. In the time A list actress didnt really want to potray characters with a little grey shade and wanted to potray morally right or glamourised characters i would say. In the time Mani Ratnam's film had potrayed woman pretty well like Revathi's character in Mauna Ragam,Manisha in Bombay,Nitya Menon's character in O Kadal Kanmani,Aishwarya Rai in Raavanan(tamil),and to an extent Shalini in Alaipayuthey, the leads in Kannathil Muthamittal,etc Loved the Sufism and poetry in the film and the stages of love potrayed. Great music and sound design and Cinematography along with the choreography.The film was centred around the insurgency in North East(though we had these shots from Ladakh,other parts of Kashmir and even Kerala),the song Dil Se Re did a good job in potryal of the insurgency,I felt even Ae Ajnabi was also beautiful,I am not sure if there were many films of the time centered around the Nort East most just potrayed the North west and Punjabis, The film has a lot of flaws and i felt the theme revolving around the Liberation and rights or attention towards the north east by the government and the army's and government's flawed interventions and the vandalisations,rapes in these areas and the growing hatred between the people and the armed forces etc were kind of rushes or not really assimilated or molded well in the story thats what i felt I really dont have great knowledge of film analysis so pardon me But please do address about the film and your takeaways
good analysis of my fav fiim..but i find Preity character is important..her role not forwarding the story but its for emotion..in film she is a modern, good looking, educated girl ..any man desired woman but Shahrukh still interested in his one sided love.. that thing establish Shahrukh blind love for Manisha..he cants see any other else..even best one
Lucky fucking Indians.I worship her. I wish if she was my teacher. FML Pay her my respects. I follow your work regularly. Thank you for all the effort. Please review Lav Diaz.
Hey there!! Just wanna know that why don't you analayse series(both tv and web)... I'm curious that whatya think abt them... I want you to analyze "PEAKY BLINDERS" 😅 ... I'm gonna spam the comment section till you dont make the video or reply me😉😊
While dating the oldest civilization one should always consider the non-existent of language (written) but not the communication. critical thinking lacked by some RW.
I spent a deliciously lazy afternoon listening to this podcast episode. Loved the digressions and the unexpected turns in the conversations. Thank you. It's my belief that A R Rahman and Ram Gopal Varma (Rangeela, Satya) were the only people who salvaged the disaster that was 90s Hindi Cinema. And thanks for the reading recommendations. Have always wanted to read Italo Calvino and David Foster Wallace and this conversation has finally nudged me to pick up the titles suggested by you and your guest. As a token of my thanks, may I recommend F Scott Fitzgerald's The Beautiful and The Damned and The Great Gatsby, Vikram Seth's A Suitable Boy, and Siddhartha Mukherjee's The Emperor of All Maladies?
Agreed lately ARR's work in Hindi cinema is not up to the mark but that's a symptom of bigger disease plaguing Hindi film music. Otherwise some of his work down south, especially for Mani Ratnam, are amazing. I guess he is revelling and really flying there something that he is not being able to do in Bollywood.
She is such a knowledgable, volluble, and articulate human being. I would love to hear from her for hours. I envy you to have such a fantastic teacher and friend in your life. Please, Vineet, bring her again. I've fallen in love with her mind. ❤
Before starting listening podcast, great job vinit, this is first time somebody is talking with the Professors of Movies, story telling, good job vinit, really excited.
Would u please analyse three colors triology by krzysztof kieslowski as there is very less about him and his work,and truly speaking I didn't got his motive behind this triology
Absolutely LOVED this! What a wonderful and enjoyable use of my time! Guernica was such a pleasant surprise! The first class I had at architecture school talked VERY briefly about it and I as I read about it more later on I was very disappointed at how it was just mentioned in passing and I always had an unfulfilled wish of talking more about that painting So THANK YOU SOOO MUCH! You took me back to the beginning of my career and reminded me of my quest for learning! More power to you! 🙏 Just one request though - maybe leave a camera on in the background next tome? I would have loved to see the joy of this conversation on both your faces
Just request please analysis the court movie I understood the movie but i think there is much more other things which I missed like you explained about gangs of wassepur and sairat
I never knew I will fall in love with reading..... whenever I consulted my friends and teachers for building my interest in reading they suggested me books of Chetan Bhagat and Robin Sharma and I was never able to complete their books. But the books you suggested are just insane. I have already completed reading 3 of them and will surely read all. I don't know how much this matter to you but a big Thank You from me for exploring me to such great writers.
Read all of them! Just finished with the cronicals of the death foretold!.... thank you soo much.....I can't believe reading is my regular routine now!!! Thank you!!🫶 Truly a life changing podcast🫂 Waiting for more.🙌
*"This is a Thank You note on behalf of Alka: "Thank you everyone for your patience, love and inputs on the podcast. Hope we will be back soon with more fun topics to discuss. Thank you all very much."*
*Time Stamp:*
00:00 - Introduction
00:46 - Emmy Noether Shout-out
02:17 - Storytelling, Story & Narrative
08:12 - Storytelling through Sculpture
19:23 - Nested Narratives & The Period Eye
24:22 - Dil Se, Chaiyya Chaiyya & Indian Classical Music
40:03 - Storytelling through Paintings
46:48 - Artist as a Historian
50:15 - Academic Approach and Linguistic Gap in Science Communication
01:01:20 - Pablo Picasso’s ‘Guernica’
01:23:35 - Developing Reading habits
01:31:06 - Reading Recommendations
One video on stanley kubrick filmography and colours
Guernica analysis!!! Brilliant!!!
Cinema Beyond Entertainment thank you Alka Hingorani - best teacher , amazing insights ! 💖
This is probably my favorite podcast out of the three. It's always nice when people who talk about films branch out to paintings, history, and narrative. It's rare that a film video makes you finally pick up that Milan Kundera book you would probably never have read otherwise. Isn't that the way it should be, though?
Sarangi our national instrument. Love from Nepal ❤
What a podcast!!! :) The feeling is so strange, we share an eerily similar taste in books... Most of the books you mentioned meant something special to me in my reading journey!
I and my sister were listening to this and at a point we started to wonder why are they not discussing about movies.. but as you guys said, the discussion didn't lead one to gain an idea of who is better, but the knowledge of different things... And so I am glad I heard this.... Haven't heard anything like this so far..
Cinema is a cumulative art. So I thought it would be better to talk about stuff that lead to cinema instead of just talking about movies. My next guest will also attempt something similar. So stay tuned :)
Dil Se has some of the best cinematography by veteran Santosh Sivan
Appreciate your efforts brother. Ik most won't... but I(a lover of both storytelling and this medium)really do.
Thank you, Saurav!
A podcast we didn't knew we needed. Thank you Masram.
The aptest description of how I am feeling right now. This video is such an eye-opener. Thanks, Masram.
from recent AR Rahman's work u should hear 'ok kanmani' n its bgm...only change is constant
I have been listening to parts of this on repeat since it came out. Definitely one of the best pieces of content out of this channel!
I just cant describe the experience I just had,
It was truly enlightening and Beautiful.
This is a fantastic conversation and a master class in itself, please continue making such podcast.
Maybe I am too pessimistic, but I don't see hindi movie industry recovering from the 90s cinema anytime soon. Reason is that the same period was when many homes got tvs and started watching movies or going to theatres even in small cities. So that cinema was first exp of big screen for a lot of people. Also the industry specific part is that the players who established themselves in the industry during the 90s are still enjoying a lot of power.
Please make video on your top fav 2017 and 2018 movies. We have been waiting for so long. You really changed my prospective towards film watching. Me and my friends watch all your movie recommendations.
Your podcasts will revolutionize the scenario of Indian online scholastic discussions,🤘🤘
Best podcast of yours
Loved it! Especially the part about Guernica painting.
As so many of the stories which we get from TV/web series is reflection of the stories which storyteller wanted to say. It hardly gives space for audiences.
The mirror and west world for example are fantastic in their way of narration and audiences can voyage across their own imagination...
Idk but a certain elements of curiosity and the unanswered questions in narration gratify my desire of entertainment...
The nervousness is real, but I am loving what this podcast is shaping up to be
Everything time I come up on your channel I learn something new..
Can you do analysis for tumbadd ..?
I can't believe I ignored those podcasts because of their length :(
Please make video about dilse and also about Mani ratnam work....excited to hear from you...
What about the western classical music , isn't it conparable to Indian classical or charnatic music .
And how do you go about comparing these two great traditions.
Wow wow absolutely wonderful!
Love your work, keep up with such beautiful podcasts. This one is my favourite.
it would be really cool if there is a dil se which from the perspective of manisha
Expecting more Podcasts...thanks for this one.
Guernica rebuts the reactionary belief that political art can only be social realist and that modernist art can never be public. It is said that a Nazi officer asked Picasso in front of Guernica “ Did you do that?”. Picasso replied ,”No. You did .”
*Reply on Alka's Behalf:* Yes, Guernica does that, just as you put it, and so well. Thank you for pointing it out.
The little story about the Nazi officer is great too: a pithy anecdote that has long circulated about the painting and the painter -- clever and cutting at once. Though I should add here that it's probably apocryphal (as the best of these often are). There's no historical knowledge/evidence of such an interchange. Although I wish, too, that there were -- so clever it is. :-)
It's just so lovely. I particularly loved your take on Indian classical music. The book recommendations at the end, Much wow :))
Vinit ...I absolutely loved this podcast... Thanks a lot. 😀✌🏾
Salute to this lady 🔥😍
Do you have a Letterboxd?
Thank you for this.
See like I do agree that Shah Rukhs presence in Dil Se had i wont say overpowered but his was the greater part than Manisha's Role as Meghana. He was this obsessive lover, the rawness within him it was kind far behind his restraint performances like in Swades and had a kind of flawed potrayal of love and yeah but i am sorry i really didnot understand purpose of Preity Zinta's character or her potrayal.But I feel Manisha had a range of emotions and there is a scene in the film where she is like hiding all her emotions within and she is unable to like close her mouth ,etc but yeah she was kinda volatile but yeah her character arch could have done better it was kinda rushed in the end but a romantic tragic end. In the time A list actress didnt really want to potray characters with a little grey shade and wanted to potray morally right or glamourised characters i would say. In the time Mani Ratnam's film had potrayed woman pretty well like Revathi's character in Mauna Ragam,Manisha in Bombay,Nitya Menon's character in O Kadal Kanmani,Aishwarya Rai in Raavanan(tamil),and to an extent Shalini in Alaipayuthey, the leads in Kannathil Muthamittal,etc
Loved the Sufism and poetry in the film and the stages of love potrayed. Great music and sound design
and Cinematography along with the choreography.The film was centred around the insurgency in North East(though we had these shots from Ladakh,other parts of Kashmir and even Kerala),the song Dil Se Re did a good job in potryal of the insurgency,I felt even Ae Ajnabi was also beautiful,I am not sure if there were many films of the time centered around the Nort East most just potrayed the North west and Punjabis,
The film has a lot of flaws and i felt the theme revolving around the Liberation and rights or attention towards the north east by the government and the army's and government's flawed interventions and the vandalisations,rapes in these areas and the growing hatred between the people and the armed forces etc
were kind of rushes or not really assimilated or molded well in the story thats what i felt
I really dont have great knowledge of film analysis so pardon me
But please do address about the film and your takeaways
.
good analysis of my fav fiim..but i find Preity character is important..her role not forwarding the story but its for emotion..in film she is a modern, good looking, educated girl ..any man desired woman but Shahrukh still interested in his one sided love.. that thing establish Shahrukh blind love for Manisha..he cants see any other else..even best one
@@gauravdwivedi8856 but was her character fleshed or blended into the story
Lucky fucking Indians.I worship her. I wish if she was my teacher. FML
Pay her my respects. I follow your work regularly. Thank you for all the effort. Please review Lav Diaz.
Loved it
Wow!
Marking Invisible Cities for a read
Wow
Hey there!! Just wanna know that why don't you analayse series(both tv and web)... I'm curious that whatya think abt them... I want you to analyze "PEAKY BLINDERS" 😅
...
I'm gonna spam the comment section till you dont make the video or reply me😉😊
While dating the oldest civilization one should always consider the non-existent of language (written) but not the communication.
critical thinking lacked by some RW.
It is decent one but why use fucking etc.
She felt like lady version of shashi tharoor.
I spent a deliciously lazy afternoon listening to this podcast episode. Loved the digressions and the unexpected turns in the conversations. Thank you. It's my belief that A R Rahman and Ram Gopal Varma (Rangeela, Satya) were the only people who salvaged the disaster that was 90s Hindi Cinema. And thanks for the reading recommendations. Have always wanted to read Italo Calvino and David Foster Wallace and this conversation has finally nudged me to pick up the titles suggested by you and your guest. As a token of my thanks, may I recommend F Scott Fitzgerald's The Beautiful and The Damned and The Great Gatsby, Vikram Seth's A Suitable Boy, and Siddhartha Mukherjee's The Emperor of All Maladies?
Farah Khan was the choreographer
Thats nice Sunday class😀😀
Agreed lately ARR's work in Hindi cinema is not up to the mark but that's a symptom of bigger disease plaguing Hindi film music. Otherwise some of his work down south, especially for Mani Ratnam, are amazing. I guess he is revelling and really flying there something that he is not being able to do in Bollywood.
Agreed. Plus he is exploring on his own as well... Which maybe cinema people don't yet know how to incorporate. So more power to him.
@@CinemaBeyondEntertainment His music is from where I started understanding music. So yeah, great power to him.
He is now making his own musical film 99 songs!
She is such a knowledgable, volluble, and articulate human being. I would love to hear from her for hours. I envy you to have such a fantastic teacher and friend in your life. Please, Vineet, bring her again. I've fallen in love with her mind. ❤
Before starting listening podcast, great job vinit, this is first time somebody is talking with the Professors of Movies, story telling, good job vinit, really excited.
I need dictionary for this one... Alka's English is so perfect..
How to add those audio waves into the videos like the ones which are in this one?
Give us your favorite top SHORT FILMS
Would u please analyse three colors triology by krzysztof kieslowski as there is very less about him and his work,and truly speaking I didn't got his motive behind this triology
I watched all three but i didn't get them... I would also like to see analysis of those
Have you heard Soz O Salaam by AR Rahman? Electronic instruments are used in it but I guess you'll like it.
I would really like to know something about "Indian" art criticism or "Indian" film theory
Thanks you this was great... I also love Indian classical Carnatic and Jazz... Love Frank Sinatra
Very surprised to find Ghachar Ghochar recommended!! Fantastic book but not many know of it
It's Roja, not Rosa.. sir
Yes... My bad.
Its been almost more than 2 months ...pls upload something
One of the best 💯💯💯 podcast i ever heard !!
My most favourite podcast ❤
Absolutely LOVED this!
What a wonderful and enjoyable use of my time!
Guernica was such a pleasant surprise!
The first class I had at architecture school talked VERY briefly about it and I as I read about it more later on I was very disappointed at how it was just mentioned in passing and I always had an unfulfilled wish of talking more about that painting
So THANK YOU SOOO MUCH!
You took me back to the beginning of my career and reminded me of my quest for learning! More power to you! 🙏
Just one request though - maybe leave a camera on in the background next tome? I would have loved to see the joy of this conversation on both your faces
Just request please analysis the court movie I understood the movie but i think there is much more other things which I missed like you explained about gangs of wassepur and sairat
What if the person who did create the tusk artefact, was a kid, a prehistoric genius of sorts who could afford to have so much time.
You sound like Skylar
from Good Will Hunting while you laugh Alka!
You're doing awesome work vinit. Please try to bring kamal swaroop and rajat Kapoor on the show.
Can anyone write the names of all the books they mentioned in the video?
Is there a booklist you can make and put in the description?
Dude its been a month where r u brooooooooooooooo, creat something and upload it soon
The nervousness is real, but I am loving what this podcast is shaping up to be
Great stuff buddy. All the best
What about Cormac McCarthy????????????
masram you is favorite music
farah khan was the choreographer.
Very overrated by you.
thank you! vineet for this podcast.
I never knew I will fall in love with reading..... whenever I consulted my friends and teachers for building my interest in reading they suggested me books of Chetan Bhagat and Robin Sharma and I was never able to complete their books. But the books you suggested are just insane. I have already completed reading 3 of them and will surely read all. I don't know how much this matter to you but a big Thank You from me for exploring me to such great writers.
Read all of them! Just finished with the cronicals of the death foretold!.... thank you soo much.....I can't believe reading is my regular routine now!!! Thank you!!🫶 Truly a life changing podcast🫂
Waiting for more.🙌
This is good 39:21
Why failed aspiring film makers become.movie critique
Failed? Vineet is young learning the craft, we aren't son of Yash Chopra, or sister in law of Asutosh Gowarikar that we can make cinema in our 20s
Its 1 hour 36 minutes long.
oh god I don't have time 😑
That's what podcasts are all about.
Do a QnA and face reveal.
instagram @vinitmasram if you want to know what he looks like
instagram @vinitmasram if you want to know what he looks like