(Hearthstone) Making Warrior Work

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  • Опубліковано 29 жов 2024

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  • @bird3713
    @bird3713 Рік тому +42

    I’ll never forget the time that Kibler made a quest pirate deck on day 1 of the Stormwind expansion, when we didn’t even know what the Juggernaut did. That was hysterical.

  • @zeronarraig1308
    @zeronarraig1308 Рік тому +105

    Sinking the boat gave the opponent a false sense of security.
    Well played.

    • @chambatips3619
      @chambatips3619 Рік тому +1

      Not at all, he didn't know he would draw mr smite next turn

  • @Chaosdragon240
    @Chaosdragon240 Рік тому +84

    >Me watching Kibler about to play Rokara onto a full board
    "NO NO NO NO, WAIT WAIT WAIT, WAITWAITWAITWAIT!"

    • @ThePardner
      @ThePardner Рік тому +1

      I was literally saying that out loud when he did that!

    • @latue87
      @latue87 Рік тому

      "Surely he's not going to do it. Surely he won't... He did it..."

  • @mikeharman4257
    @mikeharman4257 Рік тому +40

    Its fine for there to be powercreep, for all the reasons Kibler laid out - but you also need some form of reset every now and again to keep things in check, like HS and other CCG do with rotation so power creep is relative to a changing set, rather then ever upwards.

    • @Ninguin
      @Ninguin Рік тому +1

      This is my take on it as well. Mtg does this really well in that new mechanics frequently cause a stir and if they don’t end up feeling good, they will be replaced often.

    • @j.d.kurtzman7333
      @j.d.kurtzman7333 Рік тому +8

      HS doesnt really do a good job with it though, right? Cuz you still need the next set to be better than the previous three. Rotation helps but it isn't really sufficient to fully prevent power creep. I am sure you could think of a bunch of cards from two years ago that were good then but are fully unplayable now

    • @popeneiad7968
      @popeneiad7968 Рік тому +6

      The problem is incongruent power creep, aggro and combo decks keep getting better and better cards while Control archetypes are still stuck with things like SHIELD BLOCK in current year HS

    • @Tinil0
      @Tinil0 Рік тому

      And if you don't you end up with games like Yu-Gi-Oh, which has some serious design flaws (That doesn't make it inherently bad, put down the pitchforks YGO fans)

  • @soulsedge6870
    @soulsedge6870 Рік тому +3

    Wonderful. The extreme finesse required to make a play like this is insane. You actually tricked your opponent into thinking that they would live. Excellent

  • @MrLemonbrick
    @MrLemonbrick Рік тому +4

    I have a tempo pirate warrior right now, hook fist is underrated as a card. I apricate all the interesting decks you make , its always insightful to watch and improve my own decks

  • @breadstickz4
    @breadstickz4 Рік тому +4

    That boat play was amazing 😂

  • @infinitivez
    @infinitivez Рік тому +4

    So many pirates, the boat SANK!

  • @cardsharpHS
    @cardsharpHS Рік тому +11

    Making Warrior work... I can dream. I've spent more time than is healthy on the same pursuit...

  • @caiofiuzaseixas9027
    @caiofiuzaseixas9027 Рік тому +1

    I dont like the quest so much, but seeing someone beat druid with theothar and turn 5 scales makes me so happy

  • @personsomeone2760
    @personsomeone2760 Рік тому

    Man the powerful equipment he kept getting back to back with only 1 whiff was a little nutty

  • @fadedlight420
    @fadedlight420 Рік тому +1

    14:29 The rare Lower Facepalm

  • @stephenberntson4666
    @stephenberntson4666 Рік тому +5

    >making warrior work
    >it’s pirate warrior

  • @vitormelo3295
    @vitormelo3295 Рік тому

    Keep up the good work Kibler. So even top legend players make mistakes.

    • @keldone3186
      @keldone3186 Рік тому

      you may wonder that EVERY Human on this earth makes mistakes.
      Even your mother, the president, your neighbor, your boss and wow even you.
      Wow who would have thought.
      My Brain just exploded by the thought of it 😱🤯

  • @galkanftw
    @galkanftw Рік тому

    So an example of good reaction cards that can answer current non answered cards QUEST kill cards.Before anyone goes off the deep end w/o THINKING first they need to realize that people need to build THEIR winning deck and can't jut add in every tech card in the game so this allows players to think about what cards to use in their decks while still giving them the CHOICE of adding in certain tech cards.So using my example a quest kill card would be useless in most games but NOT if the design team had any creativity in their heads.We saw the example i am about to mention within MTG and that MULTI cards which are cards that have multiple abilities like maybe Kill quest and counter the next Beast or counter the next Nage there are hundreds of ideas that could go into multi cards.

  • @luisfabio
    @luisfabio Рік тому

    that gorehowl my god

  • @LuisGonzalez-nd2bq
    @LuisGonzalez-nd2bq Рік тому +3

    For power creep alot of people seem to forget how rakahstan rumble was one of the worse sets of all time due to how weak and bad the cards are.
    Power creep is not bad and is required for the game to grow but there is a balance on how much power you can creep

    • @JagEterCoola
      @JagEterCoola Рік тому +1

      Power Creep is bad when it's constant. It makes actually on-level expansions weak, like Ratsakhan.

    • @EebstertheGreat
      @EebstertheGreat Рік тому +2

      Every time a set underperforms, it's not just bad for sales, players hate it too. Everyone wants new cards to be better, but then they complain when the new cards are better.

    • @noatrope
      @noatrope Рік тому

      I don't remember Rastakhan having weak cards - I remember disliking it because I don't find luchadors interesting, the Rumble Run was inferior to previous dungeon runs, and its star mechanic forced you to decide between making inefficient trades on purpose and treating your minions as vanilla and neither option felt fun.

    • @LuisGonzalez-nd2bq
      @LuisGonzalez-nd2bq Рік тому

      @@noatrope you can ask any streamer or person who played during rumble, the cards were beyond weak and gave one of the worse metas of all time

    • @dawgpost90
      @dawgpost90 Рік тому

      ​@@LuisGonzalez-nd2bq The grand tournament would like a word with you. Lol

  • @DigimonFan814
    @DigimonFan814 Рік тому

    Okay, now I'm confused as to why this video wasn't titled "Who Needs a Boat?"

  • @letmeinidiots
    @letmeinidiots Рік тому +5

    But enrage warrior DOES work!

    • @cardsharpHS
      @cardsharpHS Рік тому +1

      I agree, I play it all the time and it can be great, and so can the same old boring pirate quest. But if you want something more like a traditional Warrior play style - you've had it.

    • @etherealg3940
      @etherealg3940 Рік тому

      @@cardsharpHS There have always been aggressive warrior decks. Control Warrior is no more traditional than a fast Warrior deck.

  • @reallaporte2845
    @reallaporte2845 Рік тому

    Lucky Dodo!

  • @drtenma2112
    @drtenma2112 Рік тому +10

    I hope next expantion warrior can be at least tier 2 or i will quit the game

    • @Tamaghnagogo
      @Tamaghnagogo Рік тому

      same brother

    • @cardsharpHS
      @cardsharpHS Рік тому +1

      I think the team is finally beginning to understand how they've let Warrior fans down, and I'd expect to see a major re-work and update similar to what Priest once received in due course. The next few expansions' cards are already designed but the new core set it receives will be a start and I suspect an internal summit and re-think might be required to truly rescue it.

    • @ethanbosley4628
      @ethanbosley4628 Рік тому +2

      I know you’re probably only referring to control, but enrage is about tier 2 at the moment. It’s just a little clunky to play and not what most people are looking for.

    • @Infinity-0033
      @Infinity-0033 Рік тому

      Standard Highlander control menagerie old god warrior

    • @drtenma2112
      @drtenma2112 Рік тому

      @Rocka shutup DK main

  • @-fazik-3713
    @-fazik-3713 Рік тому

    arrr a blunder!

  • @lemuelbach
    @lemuelbach Рік тому +1

    Can you pick up both dogs and have pupper fists?

  • @WaltherMoraRivera
    @WaltherMoraRivera Рік тому

    Wow... That druid game was painful to watch haha

  • @drewpeacock9087
    @drewpeacock9087 Рік тому +2

    Power creep is not needed how you describe, hearthstone has set rotation to deal with this. There is no need for new cards to be this much stronger than several years ago.

  • @thundersin1
    @thundersin1 Рік тому +2

    Yes

  • @kyuketsuki5736
    @kyuketsuki5736 Рік тому

    You need a bigger boat, I can't see it.

  • @william4996
    @william4996 Рік тому

    I thought if you attacked and then played a hero card you could attack again? Am I misremembering or did they change that interaction? I don't play anymore.

    • @pinny0101
      @pinny0101 Рік тому +5

      Yes they removed that, it still unfreezes your hero though

  • @next-genleap3533
    @next-genleap3533 Рік тому

    Warri-or.... Is this a new class in Hearthstone???

    • @pinny0101
      @pinny0101 Рік тому

      Huh?

    • @next-genleap3533
      @next-genleap3533 Рік тому

      @@pinny0101 Class has been bad for a long time. Blizzard essentially deleted it.

  • @Morningencouragement2
    @Morningencouragement2 Рік тому

    I climbed to legend with warrior..

  • @fabriziopiccolo5646
    @fabriziopiccolo5646 Рік тому

    without power creep there would be more variety and most importantly one wouldn't be forced to get the new stuff asap in order to stay competitive, which is the pay to win aspect of the game and main reason for its existence from a designer's perspective

  • @ieatkittinz
    @ieatkittinz Рік тому

    Brain is repeating himself and has a lot of physical ticks that he never had. He ok?

    • @dbabs1128
      @dbabs1128 Рік тому +1

      I watched him years ago and his always like that.

    • @keldone3186
      @keldone3186 Рік тому

      he always had his ticks.
      If anything they got less.

  • @galkanftw
    @galkanftw Рік тому

    LOL Brian contradicted himself.
    The fact people won't play with the new stuff is exactly why you don't want to go down this road because it becomes more and more a power creep game.
    The term FUN has ALWAYS for years been misused because people seem to always forget FUN ha to be two fold there are two players not one because yeah the winner is always more happy than the loser nobody has fun losing all the time.
    Another point missed is that nobody is saying we don't want people to use new cards and it is up to the TEAM to design cards in a way so we can have the best of both worlds and yes it is VERY possible.
    I will give a SIMPLE example one that has always been missing from the game "dumbass people on the HS team" and that is having cards that have ANSWERS to other card plays.This has forever been a problem players cannot react to MANY cards in the game how on earth does that promote interaction competitive play and player versus player when you add cards that contradict the very design and purpose of the game?

    • @ordessasam
      @ordessasam Рік тому

      tf are you on about lol - brian's been in the card game genre for years and used to be a professional player, he seems pretty on the mark here

  • @mori-7090
    @mori-7090 Рік тому

    Quest war 🤮🤮🤮