i think their youth will actually be an advantage come playoffs although many think otherwise. the coaching staff are exceptional at making mid game adjustments and the players all want to win everytime they step on the court. 0 ego on OKC, only the urge to get the team a win. great mindset
wiggins is great. totally solid do-whatever-you-ask-of-him, player. shooting over 50% from 3, but doesn't have the volume to be ranked. really, that's sort of the epitome of this whole team -- everybody is solid. nobody is out there pressing, trying to do too much, making bonehead plays, or generally "messing up".
Bro, you are the first person to ever get me to accept that it is potentially better to get rid of Giddey. I live in OKC and love to yell "Giddey Up" at the arena. Feel good about Sam making the right decision in the end tho. Would been nice to see Giddey rock corn rolls before he leaves with a gold tooth in his mouth. I believe we can potentially win a championship this yr w Giddey⚡️and be in Bricktown in June celebrating a world championship at the parade.
Josh G. Is fine. He makes good passes, especially when they are making multiple passes. I am not sure on his turnover mark, but its not often. I think their are ghost assist that he is a part of, it just doesn't show up on the stat line.
Wanna know how bad the fit is with josh giddey. Watch the first quarter where he starts the game. Then watch the 3rd where Isaiah joe starts the 2nd half (the clippers game)
I’ve been down on Giddey’s fit since the start of the year, but when he didn’t start that 2nd half I really started to feel like OKC was recognizing it was a problem
I think the problem is that he isn’t a specialist he can kinda do everything but isn’t great at anything. The past years I’m pretty sure he had the ball more as a 1 instead of a point foward 3 this year but he does have to approve on shooting tho
As a sixers fan im so mad that you have joe. Dude had talent we just never decided to use it. Wouldve been so nice next to embiid and maxey but i guess i gotta suffer.
I wish Isaiah would start(mostly because he’s my favorite player), but if Giddey just took a supporting role he’d be fine. He takes way too many threes
Damnit, Sam presti, don't listen to the know nothings, demanding that okc dump josh giddy. That boy has serious talent. He tall and athletic, he can run, and his passing is brilliant. Consistent shooting is the problem.
Yes this is Gids worst year. Reasonable to expect? Yes. With what has been happening and is still going on. He doesn't need to be the 2nd, 3rd or 4th scorer. 10 a game, 6 boards and 4 assists. That is a piece anyone will want on a team.
@@samroyans9258 i agree. and if josh giddey is the worst player on your team, i think you're doing something right. shooting is a skill you can learn. dort shot under 30% his first year from 3. then a bit over 33% for the next 3 years. now he's a 40% shooter from range. giddey can easily bump up to 36-37%. and 33% isn't atrocious. it's not like 25% or something.
So interesting insight on the Thunder being a best case combo of the Pelicans (zion + BI not meshing well) The Nets (Mikal being the guy yet probably is a 2nd option) and the Spurs (Wemby being the guy with a terrible supporting cast)
If Zion was keeping himself in shape, Pelicans would probably mesh just fine together. But yeah, OKC is a ahead of all other rebuild programs like Houston, and Pelicans, Detroit, etc. Spurs are a bit behind but if they draft a good PG to go with Wemby they can become really good really fast
The Giddey discourse has annoyed me as a Thunder fan. Yes, he’s not a great fit. But he’s not a bad NBA player like everyone wants him to be. I think he could turn into an incredible player on Utah or SA or anyone who could use a playmaking PG still one of the best young players and one of the best of the 2021 draft class imo
I love Gid. Reason I picked OKC. But, he would be elite in SA with Wemby as THE primary handler. 35 minutes a game. He'd still only average 12 or 14 a game. Likely same amount of boards but his assists would rocket.
@@DaltonBurrowsz yep(not sure if anyone has broken it since) but he was at the time. He may have to lead the team when SGA is off the floor, he may get his confidence back and fit in as a starter or he might have to be traded. But he’s 21, TD is over and fans just need to support him for the rest of the season atleast and see how it goes
The way that OKC can get around the he cost is by being able to rotate out deeper bench pieces with all those picks, giving them a steady flow of rookie contracts
OKC just need win a championship🏆 to solidify all the draft capital throughout 20 seasons…it’s crazy the amount of talent🤯 they had throughout the years😮💨💯
@@MrKwatts27 are you an OKC fan? because that would be the only person who is sane and knows basketball to dismiss Jokic like that..... its all emotions
@@MrKwatts27 yeah, but this observation is so over the top..... has to be some irrational love for Chet going on. And, I like Chet as a player - he is a perfect #2 on a future championship team IMHO
Hey let Josh Giddey is struggling with shooting that normal ain't it he can be like a Jason Kidd type players as he gets better throughout the years. He is gonna get better he is stillyoung let him develop more we never know if he can do better in the playoffs! Lets not give up on him just yet let him keep gaining more experience.
Fun fact, that was exactly what was being said of OKC back in the day when Durant, Harden and Westbrook were there. You never know how these things will turn out.
Difference is green back then could at least shoot, was more athletic too...but that Perkins trade helped them get to the finals that year Problem was it also hurt them in resigning harden because ownership didn't want to go into salary tax. They should just keep giddey and move him to the bench where he can have the ball in his hands more and then move Carson to starter. Win/win situation. Then in the off-season with all the space they have under the salary cap they can sign someone that can rebound and defend as well as shoot the 3. Or they can draft one...they definitely in a better position now then before so being patient and smart would do wonders to complete the roster and take an even further step forward.
They are extremely deep to 12-14 ….. it’s OK Thunder is NEVER on natl TV ….they will get plenty of post season air time :) 8 first round picks in next three years ….to tweak roster
I have a question now that weve seen him. For the last 2 yrs i thought some how some way okc was gonna tank enough and end up with wemby on this team with chet. The question inguess is, is chet quick enoigh defensively laterally to actually play the 4 man? And howngoodnwoukd this tram look if you had shai, williams, dort, chet,wemby as your starting 5
The only things you have incorrect or ignorant about is that Josth Giddey is a 32.7% 3point shooter this year and that he shoots 41% (18-44) form the left corner 3point line. It isn't about the 3point shot with Giddey, it is about his shots in the paint. He needs to finish better there. He is only 38% in the paint (non-restricted area) where he has shot 164 times. Thunder can live with 33% 3point shooting for 1 guy who plays 20-30 mpg especially if at times he can end up in that left corner 3point spot.
'Special Teams' Giddey wont be traded in the off. He really is too special to risk letting go, (people already forgetting his game v Pels in his first playin ?) and is signed to at least the end of next season at rookie scale. For OKC to trade both Tre and Micic but keep Giddey is a great sign for his dedication to his craft too. OKC got enough talent they dont need him to hit, but he is part of their best case scenario if he does.
As an OKC fan Josh struggles aren’t surprising. I’m sure the off court issue has messed with his head also the improvement of Jalen Williams and the addition of Chet has taken the ball out of his hands. But this is the same kid who had 31 10 and 9 against the pelicans in the playin just last year. Lit up the knicks and won multiple rookie of the months. The talent is there. I understand his fit with this team might be bad but let’s not make it seem like he’s a killian Hayes. Giddey is really good. If you replaced him with Kyle Kuzma or a Lauri Markannen than that would be very ideal. Giddey with Wemby or Giddey in Orlando with Paolo and Franz or in Chicago as their future PG would be good for him
I am not from OKC but it's my 2nd favorite team after my own. I generally like small market teams that are forced to be super-smart and strategic just compete and OKC is a perfect example of it. That being said, I don't think it's done structuring itself. SGA and Chet and Williams are core guys and all complement each other but I still think Giddey sticks out a bit. SGA is better with the ball in his hands but Giddey needs the ball in his hands to be the best player he can be. I still think that OKC will see how the playoff test goes for them and I suspect they might find that rebounding against bigger teams like Denver or Min might create a problem. I would look for them to trade Giddey for a 3+D guy and a PF/C guy who can bang inside and take some pressure off Chet. Then, they would be perfect.
Idk man Josh G does a ton of other things on the floor that isn’t really highlighted . Yea he needs to hit his open threes - but man , he has an insane iq on the floor and ability to pass . Also he isn’t a bad defender by far . Lately it has seemed he is going for more boards too.
@@mitchelpinion1852 This a club that makes their own rules and some teams spend to win and some dont. Those that dont, are cheap. Go back to dream of being a billonaire and shut up
SGA feels like he's been here forever he feels like he's 31 in his peak lol. And they still have picks for the next 6 years it's just insane. If giannis can't be traded to the warriors he should go to okc. They have pieces and it'd be fair for everyone ! :D
Yes, the construction of the team is leaning into the future instead of embracing the standard. The 2012 team would have dominated more in the 2000s Era but the Warrior's style dismantled that. This isn't ISO ball this is dynamic and based off "feel" as JDub puts it. The defense can't guess what OKC is doing because even OKC doesn't know until they do it. That plus a MVP candidate and absurd 3pt% isn't beatable
If u think about it..the thunders before didn't hit their stride till Durant and Westbrook were 24... giddey just 21 but like u said everyone got better so fast that he's left without much opportunities as he had last year. But everything still the same for him when u dive into the numbers..his true shooting percentage the same, rebounding and assists per 36 minutes Only thing different is he's getting less minutes ,points and shots because of the talent around him. Once he progresses within his role and becomes a better shooter his numbers should go up.
I keep hearing this same garbage about Giddey. He is playing 24 minutes and averaging 11.3 pts., 6.2 rbds. and 4.4 asts. and has improved his 3 point shooting to 33% and his free throws to 83%. He is starting on a team that is right there in contention for 1st in the West which is a brutally competitive conference. He ABSOLUTELY fits this roster and is an integral part of their success. His stats are only down because of less minutes and the fact that they have Chet now who obviously gets some of his looks. REALLY dumb take dude.
You don’t watch OKC. Giddey is a great guy, but watching games he’s just clearly not fitting at all. Teams leave him wide open which makes everyone else’s job harder. There’s a reason his minutes have slowly declined.
@@duffal0 LMAO I watch every game pretty much and I played high school and college. I know hoops. He fits the team perfectly and is a big part of their success. Hell if you want to start nitpicking somebody it's Dort who has been dreadful the last couple of months. I still like him but he needs to be more consistent offensively.
@@joeldriver-sp2rg you clearly don’t watch every game. I haven’t missed an OKC game since the 73 poitn Memphis loss 3 years ago. Giddey horrible. Dort has been fantastic actually, weird you’re criticizing him when his percentages are up across the board and he’s turned into a valuable 3 point shooter
@@duffal0 Dort is averaging 3 less pts. per game and 1 less assist than last year so his numbers have suffered just like Giddey's has with the emergence of chet and the improvement of both JDub and SGA. Dort has been pretty inconsistent this year. He most certainly has not been 'fantastic" by any means. Giddey is more valuable than Dort. They could plug Wallace in that stating slot no problem.
but why is it difficult? run thru the regular season on them they'll be fine. what veteran savvy team is gonna beat both minnesota and okc? denver and the lakers? someones finna beat the nuggets too but these young teams need more credit. automatically discount any young team and then when they make it to the conference finals ppl act shocked. This thunder team plays like a veteran squad,
Note: if you conceed a 37% 3pt shot, that's 1.11 points per possession, that's not acceptable. Conceeding 1.11 points per possession without freethrows is crazy bad defence.
My favorite team. All they need is a 4 or 5 enforcer type like Beef Stew. LeBron bullied them the last time they played. They will have a problem with bigger front lines ; Denver comes to mind.
@@mitchelpinion1852 Your right but I'm talking playoffs. The game is physical and more half court. The Nuggets front court is 6'11", 6'10",and 6'8". It's going to be a problem for the Thunder.
The problem IMO is that they're good RIGHT NOW and nobody expected them to be this insanely good. Otherwise I believe that they would've tried to get one of the big players we saw switching teams last summer; Dame or Holiday. The trailblazers are in rebuilding mode and wanted young assets + picks and that's exactly what OKC could've given them. Giddey + 2 firsts for Dame or one less first for Holiday afterwards. Sure those guys are older and in "win now" mode but so are OKC as they've shown us this season. With all the assets that they have, I'm really excited to see what they do this summer.
I hate to say it but he’s completely out of form and confidence, he proved last year he can shoot but this year and the dramas it’s bought with it has taken its toll on him
Lmao you sound ignorant. They literally can sign Chet, JDub, and Shai to The Max. The new CBA allows for that. If OKC window is short then everyone else has no window. So how does any team build a team? Guess what because you drafted them you can retain them. You only get punished when trying to get a SuperStar by trade 😂
@@darrenflowers4506 you must be a little boy who didn’t actually watch the NBA back then. Remember the lockout season the year before where players only played 50 games? That directly affected the salary cap and forced OKC to choose between Ibaka or Harden. James didn’t want to take a pay cut that’s his fault. Lil bois like you love speaking on shit you don’t know 😂
They'll have the same issues that they had with KD Westbrook and Harden . Can't pay everyone and break them up before they're good enough to win a championship.
They are winning at least 4-5 titles within the next six years book it this a dynasty in the making presti was smart with every move he’s made best gm in the league by far
There's lots of variance in 3p fg%. 200 sample size is too small, these guys could very probably be ~35% shooters or less in the long run. I bet their career numbers are 35% or less
Don't wanna be cruel but before Oklahoma last 2 seasons there was Memphis each seasons 2seed with Ja who is mvp calibar player on his best, JJJ actuall dpoy, Bane near all star talent, very solid rotation with Tyus Jones,Adams,Brooks (who arent there) but in playoffs they runned into teams that knew how to expose them, Oklahoma has better 3 now but weaker and softer rotations, when it comes in playoffs Thunder will be like Knicks last season when Brunson had to score 35 on its own with 25 shots
After Milwaukee loses and the big guy wants out, the thunder have so many draft picks that they could get him. If so, three championship in a row. Unstoppable
The NBA has a team that's about to go on a dynastic run DIGHT NOW in the Celtics you 🤡 So how could okc be the next dynasty? Lol Tatum and brown have another 8-10 years of prime left and will be Celtics their entire careers The Celtics have porzingus' bird rights and can re sign him.. he's only 27/28.. he's got another 5-7 prime years Derrick white is 28... The Celtics have HIS BIRD RIGHTS TOO White will be on the Celtics another 5-7 years And jrue Holliday has a player option for next season... And there's a good chance the Celtics can get him to sign a 4 year 100 million dollar deal instead of signing the 1 year 30 million dollar extension... The Celtics win MINIMUM... 3 CHIPS OVER THE NEXT 9 SEASONS
When it comes down to it Tatum and Brown come up short every time they made noise in the playoffs. Team will push Brown left in the playoffs and you know how that goes. When Tatum wants to get paid we'll see if you can keep all of them. Y'all paid Jalen an outrageous amount of money. Someone who can't make a left handed layup wide open.
@@RickyBobbyJr69 you 🤡 Ur penalizing tatum and brown for competing for championships WAAAY AHEAD OF SCHEDULE instead of giving them credit for how incredibe it was for them to win as much as they did in the first place
I'm really happy to see a small market team grow into a championship contender.
Let me introduce you to the Denver Nuggets and a very promising rookie called Nicola Jokic
Same bro its some about the underdog we all like
i think their youth will actually be an advantage come playoffs although many think otherwise. the coaching staff are exceptional at making mid game adjustments and the players all want to win everytime they step on the court. 0 ego on OKC, only the urge to get the team a win. great mindset
You should check out Aaron Wiggins high lights, 55th pick in the 2021 draft is absolutely a spark plug
wiggins is great. totally solid do-whatever-you-ask-of-him, player. shooting over 50% from 3, but doesn't have the volume to be ranked. really, that's sort of the epitome of this whole team -- everybody is solid. nobody is out there pressing, trying to do too much, making bonehead plays, or generally "messing up".
Bro, you are the first person to ever get me to accept that it is potentially better to get rid of Giddey. I live in OKC and love to yell "Giddey Up" at the arena. Feel good about Sam making the right decision in the end tho. Would been nice to see Giddey rock corn rolls before he leaves with a gold tooth in his mouth. I believe we can potentially win a championship this yr w Giddey⚡️and be in Bricktown in June celebrating a world championship at the parade.
Josh G. Is fine. He makes good passes, especially when they are making multiple passes. I am not sure on his turnover mark, but its not often. I think their are ghost assist that he is a part of, it just doesn't show up on the stat line.
His defense is ass. His only offensive bag is a running floater
He gets tons of turnovers, so you watch games??
Wanna know how bad the fit is with josh giddey. Watch the first quarter where he starts the game. Then watch the 3rd where Isaiah joe starts the 2nd half (the clippers game)
I’ve been down on Giddey’s fit since the start of the year, but when he didn’t start that 2nd half I really started to feel like OKC was recognizing it was a problem
so many of you are bad at watching ball i swear
I think the problem is that he isn’t a specialist he can kinda do everything but isn’t great at anything. The past years I’m pretty sure he had the ball more as a 1 instead of a point foward 3 this year but he does have to approve on shooting tho
As a sixers fan im so mad that you have joe. Dude had talent we just never decided to use it. Wouldve been so nice next to embiid and maxey but i guess i gotta suffer.
I wish Isaiah would start(mostly because he’s my favorite player), but if Giddey just took a supporting role he’d be fine. He takes way too many threes
It needs to be mentioned that all of our core players (outside of Shai) were drafted. Presti is far and above the best drafting GM in the league.
Damnit, Sam presti, don't listen to the know nothings, demanding that okc dump josh giddy. That boy has serious talent. He tall and athletic, he can run, and his passing is brilliant. Consistent shooting is the problem.
Yes this is Gids worst year. Reasonable to expect? Yes. With what has been happening and is still going on. He doesn't need to be the 2nd, 3rd or 4th scorer. 10 a game, 6 boards and 4 assists. That is a piece anyone will want on a team.
@@samroyans9258 i agree. and if josh giddey is the worst player on your team, i think you're doing something right. shooting is a skill you can learn. dort shot under 30% his first year from 3. then a bit over 33% for the next 3 years. now he's a 40% shooter from range. giddey can easily bump up to 36-37%. and 33% isn't atrocious. it's not like 25% or something.
Lu dort couldn't shoot either. Now he's at 40% in year what 4-5? Chip england was hired for a reason. I like seeing someone have faith in Gid
So interesting insight on the Thunder being a best case combo of the Pelicans (zion + BI not meshing well) The Nets (Mikal being the guy yet probably is a 2nd option) and the Spurs (Wemby being the guy with a terrible supporting cast)
I should’ve mentioned the Spurs in that section! Good point
@@SLExtra-xc4mv The best example would be Luka and the Dallas!
@@Nunoluzissestrue,kyrie and luka are individually great but don’t mesh well and they have a terrible supporting cast on top of that
If Zion was keeping himself in shape, Pelicans would probably mesh just fine together. But yeah, OKC is a ahead of all other rebuild programs like Houston, and Pelicans, Detroit, etc. Spurs are a bit behind but if they draft a good PG to go with Wemby they can become really good really fast
The Giddey discourse has annoyed me as a Thunder fan. Yes, he’s not a great fit. But he’s not a bad NBA player like everyone wants him to be. I think he could turn into an incredible player on Utah or SA or anyone who could use a playmaking PG still one of the best young players and one of the best of the 2021 draft class imo
I love Gid. Reason I picked OKC. But, he would be elite in SA with Wemby as THE primary handler. 35 minutes a game. He'd still only average 12 or 14 a game. Likely same amount of boards but his assists would rocket.
People forget how many rookie of the month awards he won, he’s regressed this season yes but he’s still 21 and a project
@@FreeBandz658 If i’m not mistaken wasnt he the youngest player to record a triple double?
@@DaltonBurrowsz yep(not sure if anyone has broken it since) but he was at the time. He may have to lead the team when SGA is off the floor, he may get his confidence back and fit in as a starter or he might have to be traded. But he’s 21, TD is over and fans just need to support him for the rest of the season atleast and see how it goes
and have massive amounts of picks available.......best front office in the league
poo poo pee pee 💩💩💩💩
Also against Nuggets are 3-1
just hope they can keep the big 3 together, because this team is frighteningly good
The way that OKC can get around the he cost is by being able to rotate out deeper bench pieces with all those picks, giving them a steady flow of rookie contracts
OKC just need win a championship🏆 to solidify all the draft capital throughout 20 seasons…it’s crazy the amount of talent🤯 they had throughout the years😮💨💯
Ask yourself, can Jokic guard Chet?
and can Chet guard Jokic? I would expect them to put Gordon on Chet, since he plays like a forward
@@mrvk39 Chet cooks him🤷🏾♂️
@@MrKwatts27 are you an OKC fan? because that would be the only person who is sane and knows basketball to dismiss Jokic like that..... its all emotions
@@mrvk39 Just a observation
@@MrKwatts27 yeah, but this observation is so over the top..... has to be some irrational love for Chet going on. And, I like Chet as a player - he is a perfect #2 on a future championship team IMHO
Bismack is our temporary back up big for this season. He's undersized as far as height goes, but he's physical and a great shot blocker.
He not gonna play the main backup is jaylin Williams
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Hey let Josh Giddey is struggling with shooting that normal ain't it he can be like a Jason Kidd type players as he gets better throughout the years. He is gonna get better he is stillyoung let him develop more we never know if he can do better in the playoffs! Lets not give up on him just yet let him keep gaining more experience.
Fun fact, that was exactly what was being said of OKC back in the day when Durant, Harden and Westbrook were there. You never know how these things will turn out.
Yeah but they didn't have draft picks to back em up
Difference is green back then could at least shoot, was more athletic too...but that Perkins trade helped them get to the finals that year
Problem was it also hurt them in resigning harden because ownership didn't want to go into salary tax.
They should just keep giddey and move him to the bench where he can have the ball in his hands more and then move Carson to starter.
Win/win situation.
Then in the off-season with all the space they have under the salary cap they can sign someone that can rebound and defend as well as shoot the 3.
Or they can draft one...they definitely in a better position now then before so being patient and smart would do wonders to complete the roster and take an even further step forward.
There won’t be a Draymond to kick out center in the balls going forward
I think it would be a disappointment if they don’t win a playoff series, which as a Thunder fan, it’s wild that I’m typing that out.
it would only be a disappointment if they didnt compete, West is tight, teams will play well and still lose.
They are extremely deep to 12-14 ….. it’s OK Thunder is NEVER on natl TV ….they will get plenty of post season air time :) 8 first round picks in next three years ….to tweak roster
Great team and the players in life OK the thunder are living in life 👌🏻 🙌🏿 ka.pai bless the thunder ⛈️ 🙏 🎉
I have a question now that weve seen him. For the last 2 yrs i thought some how some way okc was gonna tank enough and end up with wemby on this team with chet.
The question inguess is, is chet quick enoigh defensively laterally to actually play the 4 man?
And howngoodnwoukd this tram look if you had shai, williams, dort, chet,wemby as your starting 5
The only things you have incorrect or ignorant about is that Josth Giddey is a 32.7% 3point shooter this year and that he shoots 41% (18-44) form the left corner 3point line. It isn't about the 3point shot with Giddey, it is about his shots in the paint. He needs to finish better there. He is only 38% in the paint (non-restricted area) where he has shot 164 times. Thunder can live with 33% 3point shooting for 1 guy who plays 20-30 mpg especially if at times he can end up in that left corner 3point spot.
Giddey too young to give up on yet. If he can improve the shooting he can still be really good
'Special Teams' Giddey wont be traded in the off. He really is too special to risk letting go, (people already forgetting his game v Pels in his first playin ?) and is signed to at least the end of next season at rookie scale. For OKC to trade both Tre and Micic but keep Giddey is a great sign for his dedication to his craft too. OKC got enough talent they dont need him to hit, but he is part of their best case scenario if he does.
Gordon Hayward looks far worse than Giddey.
First games back in 2 months give it some time. We know Gordon can shoot. Giddy has yet to prove it.
4:21 They got Bismack Biyombo for that same exact role
Bismack is not gonna play at all he only gonna play when okc needs a rebound or when they blowout a team like they did against the wizards
I swear if i see Josh Giddey flip his hair with his hand 1 more time.
His hair?? That’s your take? 😂
As an OKC fan Josh struggles aren’t surprising. I’m sure the off court issue has messed with his head also the improvement of Jalen Williams and the addition of Chet has taken the ball out of his hands. But this is the same kid who had 31 10 and 9 against the pelicans in the playin just last year. Lit up the knicks and won multiple rookie of the months. The talent is there. I understand his fit with this team might be bad but let’s not make it seem like he’s a killian Hayes. Giddey is really good. If you replaced him with Kyle Kuzma or a Lauri Markannen than that would be very ideal. Giddey with Wemby or Giddey in Orlando with Paolo and Franz or in Chicago as their future PG would be good for him
By "next" you meant after the Nuggets' dynasty, right?
I am not from OKC but it's my 2nd favorite team after my own. I generally like small market teams that are forced to be super-smart and strategic just compete and OKC is a perfect example of it. That being said, I don't think it's done structuring itself. SGA and Chet and Williams are core guys and all complement each other but I still think Giddey sticks out a bit. SGA is better with the ball in his hands but Giddey needs the ball in his hands to be the best player he can be. I still think that OKC will see how the playoff test goes for them and I suspect they might find that rebounding against bigger teams like Denver or Min might create a problem. I would look for them to trade Giddey for a 3+D guy and a PF/C guy who can bang inside and take some pressure off Chet. Then, they would be perfect.
I agree, okc needs a bruiser to protect chet, yet a big guy who can run and block shots. Players like that are expensive and not easy to come by.
Would love Bam.
Unless they can also space the floor, they would not fit OKC's offence.
Giddey is younger than Chet and both Williams’…
I think we are being hard on Josh Giddey just because of the off the court stuff
If they send out a few picks with Hayward and giddey they could get another decent floor spacer for sure
We gotta prepare to pay Dub and Chet tho, so we can’t make any crazy signings
Biyombo..
clickbait title 😂
Idk man Josh G does a ton of other things on the floor that isn’t really highlighted . Yea he needs to hit his open threes - but man , he has an insane iq on the floor and ability to pass . Also he isn’t a bad defender by far . Lately it has seemed he is going for more boards too.
I’d love to bring back Steven Adams as a backup big
Nah. Dynasties are over. But Presti did this crap TWICE! Imagine if the owners werent cheap !
Exactly my point, what happens is the younger will get better and want more money and then your OP team crumbles
@@NiteOwlVibes Yeah. They would better off going all in sooner than later. And then you can trade to get under the tax or something
Funny what today's definition of cheap is. You realize that NBA teams are a business, right?
@@mitchelpinion1852
This a club that makes their own rules and some teams spend to win and some dont. Those that dont, are cheap.
Go back to dream of being a billonaire and shut up
SGA feels like he's been here forever he feels like he's 31 in his peak lol. And they still have picks for the next 6 years it's just insane. If giannis can't be traded to the warriors he should go to okc. They have pieces and it'd be fair for everyone ! :D
Bring back Adams!!! :D
Chill of josh giddey; he's going through some things, be we believe in him 💯
Curious to see how the GM handles some of these upcoming contract extensions. Dont want a James Harden repeat.
I’d guess it’s just they say SGA, Jalen, and Chet are the max guys and fill out the roster from there
I wish it worked that way, in couple years players are gonna want more money and breakup the team.
The question I would ask OKC fans is, can this Big 3 be better than the Big 3 of 2012 in terms of talent?
Honestly Shai+Chet+JDub rn are about on par with 2012 KD+Russ+Harden
Shai=2012 KD, JDub2012 Harden
Yes, the construction of the team is leaning into the future instead of embracing the standard. The 2012 team would have dominated more in the 2000s Era but the Warrior's style dismantled that. This isn't ISO ball this is dynamic and based off "feel" as JDub puts it. The defense can't guess what OKC is doing because even OKC doesn't know until they do it. That plus a MVP candidate and absurd 3pt% isn't beatable
Easily
I kinda feel bad for giddey, he has potential but everyone around just developed way to fast for him to keep up with
If u think about it..the thunders before didn't hit their stride till Durant and Westbrook were 24...
giddey just 21 but like u said everyone got better so fast that he's left without much opportunities as he had last year.
But everything still the same for him when u dive into the numbers..his true shooting percentage the same, rebounding and assists per 36 minutes
Only thing different is he's getting less minutes ,points and shots because of the talent around him.
Once he progresses within his role and becomes a better shooter his numbers should go up.
I cant keep watching my rockets anymore...
All thanks to Dame and Paul George
I keep hearing this same garbage about Giddey. He is playing 24 minutes and averaging 11.3 pts., 6.2 rbds. and 4.4 asts. and has improved his 3 point shooting to 33% and his free throws to 83%. He is starting on a team that is right there in contention for 1st in the West which is a brutally competitive conference. He ABSOLUTELY fits this roster and is an integral part of their success. His stats are only down because of less minutes and the fact that they have Chet now who obviously gets some of his looks. REALLY dumb take dude.
You don’t watch OKC. Giddey is a great guy, but watching games he’s just clearly not fitting at all. Teams leave him wide open which makes everyone else’s job harder. There’s a reason his minutes have slowly declined.
@@duffal0 LMAO I watch every game pretty much and I played high school and college. I know hoops. He fits the team perfectly and is a big part of their success. Hell if you want to start nitpicking somebody it's Dort who has been dreadful the last couple of months. I still like him but he needs to be more consistent offensively.
@@joeldriver-sp2rg you clearly don’t watch every game. I haven’t missed an OKC game since the 73 poitn Memphis loss 3 years ago. Giddey horrible. Dort has been fantastic actually, weird you’re criticizing him when his percentages are up across the board and he’s turned into a valuable 3 point shooter
@@duffal0 Dort is averaging 3 less pts. per game and 1 less assist than last year so his numbers have suffered just like Giddey's has with the emergence of chet and the improvement of both JDub and SGA. Dort has been pretty inconsistent this year. He most certainly has not been 'fantastic" by any means. Giddey is more valuable than Dort. They could plug Wallace in that stating slot no problem.
I was a giddy hater but he’s been playing good lately
Can they keep this core together or are they exactly the same franchise that had to let harden walk
Okc could have paid harden they didn’t because they didn’t want to be over the tax also yes they can keep the main core
I wish these tubers would quit bashing Josh. I think the Thunder should keep him!!
but why is it difficult? run thru the regular season on them they'll be fine. what veteran savvy team is gonna beat both minnesota and okc? denver and the lakers? someones finna beat the nuggets too but these young teams need more credit. automatically discount any young team and then when they make it to the conference finals ppl act shocked. This thunder team plays like a veteran squad,
1:40 - In fact Josh Giddey is this guy that you could leave open. His shooting is not that good.
Note: if you conceed a 37% 3pt shot, that's 1.11 points per possession, that's not acceptable. Conceeding 1.11 points per possession without freethrows is crazy bad defence.
Title/Thumbnail is very confusing, this doesn’t look like the Boston Celtics
My favorite team. All they need is a 4 or 5 enforcer type like Beef Stew. LeBron bullied them the last time they played. They will have a problem with bigger front lines ; Denver comes to mind.
They are 3-1 against Denver.
@@mitchelpinion1852 Your right but I'm talking playoffs. The game is physical and more half court. The Nuggets front court is 6'11", 6'10",and 6'8". It's going to be a problem for the Thunder.
Kenrich Williams
These boys aint winning shii as long as jokic is in the NBA
Best way I can describe this team is the 2013-14 spurs on steroids and way younger
Great video but you did mention that everyone on this roster can shoot. Let me introduce you to Josh Giddey lol
The problem IMO is that they're good RIGHT NOW and nobody expected them to be this insanely good. Otherwise I believe that they would've tried to get one of the big players we saw switching teams last summer; Dame or Holiday. The trailblazers are in rebuilding mode and wanted young assets + picks and that's exactly what OKC could've given them. Giddey + 2 firsts for Dame or one less first for Holiday afterwards. Sure those guys are older and in "win now" mode but so are OKC as they've shown us this season. With all the assets that they have, I'm really excited to see what they do this summer.
Josh Giddey 32% from the three-point line that’s better than Victor Wembanyama… everyone wants him to be the rookie of the year..
I hate to say it but he’s completely out of form and confidence, he proved last year he can shoot but this year and the dramas it’s bought with it has taken its toll on him
Josh Giddey should be the point guard for another team. Doesn't fit at all with SGA.
I’m curious to see Hayward step into Giddey’s spot once he gets adjusted with the team. It could be a game changer
I think they have a short window because they won't be able to afford to resign all of them unfortunately
Lmao you sound ignorant. They literally can sign Chet, JDub, and Shai to The Max. The new CBA allows for that. If OKC window is short then everyone else has no window. So how does any team build a team? Guess what because you drafted them you can retain them. You only get punished when trying to get a SuperStar by trade 😂
@@808bboarder exactly how they were able to keep James harden years ago 😂
@@darrenflowers4506okc was able to sign harden they just didn’t because they didn’t want to go over the tax
@@darrenflowers4506 you must be a little boy who didn’t actually watch the NBA back then. Remember the lockout season the year before where players only played 50 games? That directly affected the salary cap and forced OKC to choose between Ibaka or Harden. James didn’t want to take a pay cut that’s his fault. Lil bois like you love speaking on shit you don’t know 😂
They'll have the same issues that they had with KD Westbrook and Harden .
Can't pay everyone and break them up before they're good enough to win a championship.
They 100% could’ve paid Harden! They just didn’t want to give him a max but they could’ve. And they can pay all these guys too
These guys are nowhere near as selfish and KD and Harden are though
Ignorant take. They’re good enough now. Not only that, but they can sign them all in the future.
They are winning at least 4-5 titles within the next six years book it this a dynasty in the making presti was smart with every move he’s made best gm in the league by far
Boa u sound crazy asf
@@Woodstodaface it’s not
That's very unrealistic lol.
You are like the creator of this video. Calling OKC a dinasty is crazy.
5 of the next 6 is crazy. MJ, Bron, Duncan, or Kobe never did that. I don’t think SGA will if those all-time greats didn’t
"Change Giddy for someone who can shoot and can help Chet on the frontcourt"
That's a pretty convoluted way of saying "please trade for Lauri"
What if they gave poku more minutes run chet at the 4?
@@lovinv08poke got waived
@@TK-fv9bn what? When?
@@lovinv08 2 days ago
they got wish Lauri instead and got to keep Josh
OKC glaze getting out of control
Teams will figure out their offense and they will struggle .
Lol
There's lots of variance in 3p fg%. 200 sample size is too small, these guys could very probably be ~35% shooters or less in the long run. I bet their career numbers are 35% or less
Don't wanna be cruel but before Oklahoma last 2 seasons there was Memphis each seasons 2seed with Ja who is mvp calibar player on his best, JJJ actuall dpoy, Bane near all star talent, very solid rotation with Tyus Jones,Adams,Brooks (who arent there) but in playoffs they runned into teams that knew how to expose them, Oklahoma has better 3 now but weaker and softer rotations, when it comes in playoffs Thunder will be like Knicks last season when Brunson had to score 35 on its own with 25 shots
After Milwaukee loses and the big guy wants out, the thunder have so many draft picks that they could get him. If so, three championship in a row. Unstoppable
Lol
@@Idiots221 it wasn’t my idea, hear it on an reputable podcast. Ant man to okc, for 8 draft picks,
We don't need another guard @@awethinic8379
They should find some way to trade Giddey and get Clint Capela. Idk why but that’s just the trade that immediately popped in my head
that is a terrible fuckin idea
Trade deadline, but I feel like Thunder more so need a vet guard
Absolutely not
The NBA has a team that's about to go on a dynastic run DIGHT NOW in the Celtics you 🤡
So how could okc be the next dynasty? Lol
Tatum and brown have another 8-10 years of prime left and will be Celtics their entire careers
The Celtics have porzingus' bird rights and can re sign him.. he's only 27/28.. he's got another 5-7 prime years
Derrick white is 28... The Celtics have HIS BIRD RIGHTS TOO
White will be on the Celtics another 5-7 years
And jrue Holliday has a player option for next season... And there's a good chance the Celtics can get him to sign a 4 year 100 million dollar deal instead of signing the 1 year 30 million dollar extension...
The Celtics win MINIMUM... 3 CHIPS OVER THE NEXT 9 SEASONS
When it comes down to it Tatum and Brown come up short every time they made noise in the playoffs. Team will push Brown left in the playoffs and you know how that goes. When Tatum wants to get paid we'll see if you can keep all of them. Y'all paid Jalen an outrageous amount of money. Someone who can't make a left handed layup wide open.
@@RickyBobbyJr69 you 🤡
Ur penalizing tatum and brown for competing for championships WAAAY AHEAD OF SCHEDULE instead of giving them credit for how incredibe it was for them to win as much as they did in the first place
Kings are better
This video is filled with absolute lies, okc is most definitely not going to be anything remotely close to a dynasty, y'all are insanely deranged
Who peed in your Cheerios, honey? 😂
lol exactly