Fair play for trying! Nothing ventured, nothing gained… I’m not gonna lie, my multistrada PPF was fitted professionally and they cut it into specific sections and it was a kit all pre cut to the shapes of the bike.
I have vinyl wrapped and ppf my bick, took some practice, the trick is the have the right sqeegy and solutions to work with. You need slip solution which is baby shampoo and water as your application and to help with the corners make a tack solution which is purified water and 99% isopropyl ratio is 1 to 5 with every 100ml. this stuff works super fast so use it to help tack down your ridges first and keep applying the shampoo were you need to reslip making sure you pre shampoo the area and pre shampoo your piece. Pre cutting is a much easier finish but if you don't use extra sharp blades but let your edges dry a little or use the tack then once 100% dry use heat to finish your fold. Hope this helps if you ever try again !
I've installed film on areas of my bike. Easiest way is to make a paper template, transfer the template on to the film, cut the film and install it with water etc. areas that have compound radius' area very difficult but you can use separate pieces in them such as the tank on your bike.
I heat up the foil and stretch it beyond the edges wrapping it around them and underneath, so that the foil pulls on itself - it seems to work best. If you leave any cut unstretched, it tends to unravel. I started doing the same with vinyl and it works there too.
Well I tried the same with my vstrom650. Starting to learn from the front fender/plastic as we know/...and...yes it did not work out.😢 Then i took the fuel tank off the bike and brought it to the "Llumar" representative workshop in my town. After two days the called me to pick it up. Transparent because my tank is black, 120 density if I remember. It was one of the best spent money so far. P.s. about 75 usd if i convert it correctly. Sometimes we cannot do it ourselves..but it is important to know the people who can do it. Thanks for the video!
People don’t realise how difficult wrapping is. I have wrapped my R1 4 times. It was an extremely painful process. The curves on the motorcycle are insane. My first time wrapping was a botched job. The second one was decent. Third one got better. Fourth one is the best one I’ve done so far. PPF is even harder. It’s thicker than the wrap and has more structure to it.
I’d recommend to keep going, that’s what the professionals do too! Also the second protective film is there to keep the scratch marks from the squigee.
When you have execs material and complicated turn or bulge and foil is getting wrinkled you must cut perpendicularly to the curve. When you do that it stop foli from stressing and wrinkle and you can squeeze it to form.
I just applied ceramic coating on my bike a few days ago after contemplating PPF. After watching your video I'm glad I didn't attempt it. I think I'll just stick to the little bottle and a sponge for my bike :)
Ceramic coating and PPF do different jobs. A ceramic coat won’t stop your bike getting scratches, swirl marks or chips. PPF will. You can’t apply PPF to a ceramic coat, either.
@@poonchild That's literally what ceramic coating does. It stops small scratches from entering the clear coat. PPF will prevent deeper scratches, but ceramic coating still protects the paint to a certain degree.
@@mathiasnkristensen Matey, i've a bridge to sell you. I've had Ceramic coatings on multiple bikes and it does nothing of the sort. If you've bought it for protection from scratches, then i'm afraid you've wasted your money. IT looks nice, keeps the bike looking shiny, and adds a water-repellent coat, but thats about it.
I used a tony james design kit on my v2 an on other bike in the past fits perfectly an did it my self an I'm stupid so anyone can do it no heat gun needed every part is cut to fit highly recommended
I'm getting my r1250r fitted with ppf next week. The tank and all ice grey panels , the gold forks and head light 🤗 I bought a little myself , hoping I can do the panniers myself 😅
On the headlight I would have used the film from the first attempt to make a template, then use the template to size the next piece that I would have cut out with some super sharp scissors. On my Bmw R1200RT that had ppf professionally applied it looks as though the film doesn't go all the way to the edge but finishes about 1-2mm from the edge of each panel. I have no idea how they cut it so perfectly though. The only way I could think of getting this result is by making a template first out of some other material.
I tried vinyl wrapping my track bike years ago, it was an absolute disaster that almost ended in my best friend (who was helping me) and I coming to blows. So when I wanted to get my Ninja H2 PPFed, I handed it to a professional and paid the money, no feelings wanting to inflict GBH involved. Fair play for trying, and for posting the video even though it didn't work out.
I'd be interested to see you try a few different brands. there's a huge difference in ease of application between various brands of vinyl, could be the same for ppf.
never tried it on a more curvaceous motorcycle, but did it on a car's full front end. Wrappers make it look/sound way harder than it is, my install went smooth and right the first time.
On a car, it looks easy. All the bends and shapes on a bike makes it a bit harder. Good effort for trying though. Convinced me for not trying it myself on my Tiger Sport. I'll stick to ceramic coating.
So damn expensive now that it’s not making much sense anymore. It’s as expensive as a smaller damage repair and if your damage is much worse the wrap won’t matter anyway
You need a sharper knife to cut PPF and a Teflon squeegee works better, I'm not a fan of water and dishwashing soap, but AVERY application fluid has some alcohol in it to assist with drying, try stretching it gently around edges like the mudguard to get rid of bunched up film. PPF is tricky to apply no matter what brand you use AVERY Denison is probably one of the best. Retired Signwriter here
0:23 if you are only willing to pay people to do something because you’ve never done it, how are you ever gonna learn a new skill. I love learning things that can either save or make me money
@@mandrakejake and where did they get the experience, they had to start somewhere, they once started and have decided not to give up. There will never be shame in giving up, giving up and realising that you don’t have the right personality for a particular skill is part of life but trying to see if you can learn that skill is a valuable lesson either way. If you succeed you have learned a new skill, if you don’t you have learned that the skill at hand is not what you’ve been born to do and thus you can move on to the next one. Trying to pick up a skill and failing at it is still better as not trying and just waisting time by not being productive or mentally active. I am 18 years old and I have learned about more things than I can remember just for fun, I learn about things to not do anything with it and just forget it while learning about something else just to keep my brain active. I have failed to learn about quite some of those things and a grea example is chess, I have tried learning this and lost interest but my brother picked it up like riding a bike. Different people will easily learn different things and that’s why you should always try new things
Just from an outsider PoV, would it not have been better to remove panels to do this? Especially the headlight, you could remove the bezel, and hide the nasty edges under it, same with the main tank panel. I have never done this so you got further than me :) Well done for trying!
Ive ppfed 3 bikes and 6 cars. Im stubborn. Its way harder than vinyl. You need to let it dry for a few hours and also use edge sealer, its not nearly as malleable as vinyl.
C'est une galère sans nom de poser su ppf. J'ai fait des essais sur un cache latéral, pas trop compliqué de forme et c'était un désastre. Heureusement que je n'avais acheté qu'un mètre pour cet essai, car c'est cher 59€ du mètre plus un raclette plus un ruban coupe fil, résultat 100€ de jeté 😢
Use masking tape>cut the masking tape to size>overlay the masking tape to the ppf>cut the shape>then apply your precut ppf with t he exact size of the part>done
I like your channel and your down to earth honest attitude, but your advice about keeping your tracker fob with your keys isn’t the greatest, if they get your keys they get your fob a better solution is to keep the fob away from your keys in your pocket jacket.
Well I loved having it on my Ducati and was thinking about a DIY on my Aprilia but now I will DEFINITELY pay someone else to install it! If you can't do it, I'm certainly not gonna try.
I tried this on my ducati a while back with little success. Maybe try something with less angles first to learn how the material works. Like a car. Wrapping a motorcycle is not easy.
Yes like what iantalbot said, they precut into the shape of your bike part. the shop i went to squeeze in as much of the parts into a certain amount of material so it wont be pricey, cheers didnt know you own this thought it was your dads ride safe
Hey bro, i think it would be a lot easier process if you stencil out the places on your bike with tracing paper, and then on a flat surface cut the ppf from the stencils.
You could try to cut out a template from paper,then cut the foil using the template,maybe🤔.I would think it would be a lot easier to make nice cuts,then position it with water
Your blades are sharp... but not 'Sharp' like a scalpel blade. PPF while being similar to Vinyl it isn't Vinyl. With vinyl you work in triangles and heat to sqrink and tighten up, most PPFs that I know of don't.
i have a video suggestion, use your phone as a 2nd speedometer by connecting your bike with Bluetooth OBD2 (different bikes need different something-to-OBD2 conversion cable), connect the OBD2 to your phone, open up live engine information from any apps, place your phone on your mount, bam! you got more information about your bike displayed.
You could try applying masking tape to the part you want to cover to make a template which you can then cut to make a flat pattern that you can then cut film from. My text might not make sense but there's a video from ZRCarbon where he makes a template for pre-preg carbon. ua-cam.com/video/ytP-t_B5J90/v-deo.htmlsi=Hl_JhOCyJQf6CaHL&t=971 You could apply this technique for making a pre-cut film.
Get 10% off your Monimoto 9 order with code “CHAOSCAUSES”- monimoto.com
Fair play for trying! Nothing ventured, nothing gained… I’m not gonna lie, my multistrada PPF was fitted professionally and they cut it into specific sections and it was a kit all pre cut to the shapes of the bike.
I have vinyl wrapped and ppf my bick, took some practice, the trick is the have the right sqeegy and solutions to work with. You need slip solution which is baby shampoo and water as your application and to help with the corners make a tack solution which is purified water and 99% isopropyl ratio is 1 to 5 with every 100ml. this stuff works super fast so use it to help tack down your ridges first and keep applying the shampoo were you need to reslip making sure you pre shampoo the area and pre shampoo your piece. Pre cutting is a much easier finish but if you don't use extra sharp blades but let your edges dry a little or use the tack then once 100% dry use heat to finish your fold. Hope this helps if you ever try again !
I've installed film on areas of my bike. Easiest way is to make a paper template, transfer the template on to the film, cut the film and install it with water etc. areas that have compound radius' area very difficult but you can use separate pieces in them such as the tank on your bike.
man this video hits hard. thanks for the content... and the humble attitude is refreshing on youtube
Reminds me of people trying to tint their car windows. Its looks a lot easier than it is.
You need to disassemble the parts, just a heads up lol
Also for the R1 new fairings get it done before instal.
I heat up the foil and stretch it beyond the edges wrapping it around them and underneath, so that the foil pulls on itself - it seems to work best. If you leave any cut unstretched, it tends to unravel. I started doing the same with vinyl and it works there too.
thank you for keeping it real!! we all fail and succeed. this really shows the quality of your content.
Well I tried the same with my vstrom650. Starting to learn from the front fender/plastic as we know/...and...yes it did not work out.😢 Then i took the fuel tank off the bike and brought it to the "Llumar" representative workshop in my town. After two days the called me to pick it up. Transparent because my tank is black, 120 density if I remember. It was one of the best spent money so far. P.s. about 75 usd if i convert it correctly. Sometimes we cannot do it ourselves..but it is important to know the people who can do it. Thanks for the video!
People don’t realise how difficult wrapping is. I have wrapped my R1 4 times. It was an extremely painful process. The curves on the motorcycle are insane. My first time wrapping was a botched job. The second one was decent. Third one got better. Fourth one is the best one I’ve done so far. PPF is even harder. It’s thicker than the wrap and has more structure to it.
I’d recommend to keep going, that’s what the professionals do too! Also the second protective film is there to keep the scratch marks from the squigee.
When you have execs material and complicated turn or bulge and foil is getting wrinkled you must cut perpendicularly to the curve. When you do that it stop foli from stressing and wrinkle and you can squeeze it to form.
I just applied ceramic coating on my bike a few days ago after contemplating PPF. After watching your video I'm glad I didn't attempt it. I think I'll just stick to the little bottle and a sponge for my bike :)
Ceramic coating and PPF do different jobs. A ceramic coat won’t stop your bike getting scratches, swirl marks or chips. PPF will.
You can’t apply PPF to a ceramic coat, either.
@@poonchild That's literally what ceramic coating does. It stops small scratches from entering the clear coat. PPF will prevent deeper scratches, but ceramic coating still protects the paint to a certain degree.
@@mathiasnkristensen Matey, i've a bridge to sell you.
I've had Ceramic coatings on multiple bikes and it does nothing of the sort. If you've bought it for protection from scratches, then i'm afraid you've wasted your money.
IT looks nice, keeps the bike looking shiny, and adds a water-repellent coat, but thats about it.
More interest to me is wrap front fork to gold or black color. This my plan for now. PPF is great but not visual changes, only damage protection.
A useful video for those who have contemplated the protection film. It seems that smaller sections would perhaps be the only way to go. Well done :)
I used a tony james design kit on my v2 an on other bike in the past fits perfectly an did it my self an I'm stupid so anyone can do it no heat gun needed every part is cut to fit highly recommended
I'm getting my r1250r fitted with ppf next week. The tank and all ice grey panels , the gold forks and head light 🤗 I bought a little myself , hoping I can do the panniers myself 😅
On the headlight I would have used the film from the first attempt to make a template, then use the template to size the next piece that I would have cut out with some super sharp scissors. On my Bmw R1200RT that had ppf professionally applied it looks as though the film doesn't go all the way to the edge but finishes about 1-2mm from the edge of each panel. I have no idea how they cut it so perfectly though. The only way I could think of getting this result is by making a template first out of some other material.
I tried vinyl wrapping my track bike years ago, it was an absolute disaster that almost ended in my best friend (who was helping me) and I coming to blows. So when I wanted to get my Ninja H2 PPFed, I handed it to a professional and paid the money, no feelings wanting to inflict GBH involved.
Fair play for trying, and for posting the video even though it didn't work out.
I'd be interested to see you try a few different brands. there's a huge difference in ease of application between various brands of vinyl, could be the same for ppf.
never tried it on a more curvaceous motorcycle, but did it on a car's full front end. Wrappers make it look/sound way harder than it is, my install went smooth and right the first time.
How about the cutting tape 11:39 ?
I'm just glad we're not gonna miss out on the selling process for the GS.
you visibly put lot of effort on you videos and it is good
Well done for making this video. At least you've had a first attempt at doing this job..it's not as easy as folks think.
On a car, it looks easy. All the bends and shapes on a bike makes it a bit harder. Good effort for trying though. Convinced me for not trying it myself on my Tiger Sport. I'll stick to ceramic coating.
I just order the pre cut kits. Not that bad when you don’t have to cut it. I use xpel ultimate matte.
This is one of those few jobs I'd get someone else to do
So damn expensive now that it’s not making much sense anymore. It’s as expensive as a smaller damage repair and if your damage is much worse the wrap won’t matter anyway
You need a sharper knife to cut PPF and a Teflon squeegee works better, I'm not a fan of water and dishwashing soap, but AVERY application fluid has some alcohol in it to assist with drying, try stretching it gently around edges like the mudguard to get rid of bunched up film. PPF is tricky to apply no matter what brand you use AVERY Denison is probably one of the best. Retired Signwriter here
0:23 if you are only willing to pay people to do something because you’ve never done it, how are you ever gonna learn a new skill.
I love learning things that can either save or make me money
Have you ever tried upholstery, or plastering? 😄 I agree with you, but some jobs are better left to those with lots of experience.
@@mandrakejake and where did they get the experience, they had to start somewhere, they once started and have decided not to give up.
There will never be shame in giving up, giving up and realising that you don’t have the right personality for a particular skill is part of life but trying to see if you can learn that skill is a valuable lesson either way. If you succeed you have learned a new skill, if you don’t you have learned that the skill at hand is not what you’ve been born to do and thus you can move on to the next one.
Trying to pick up a skill and failing at it is still better as not trying and just waisting time by not being productive or mentally active.
I am 18 years old and I have learned about more things than I can remember just for fun, I learn about things to not do anything with it and just forget it while learning about something else just to keep my brain active. I have failed to learn about quite some of those things and a grea example is chess, I have tried learning this and lost interest but my brother picked it up like riding a bike. Different people will easily learn different things and that’s why you should always try new things
PPF is always a nice way to protect your bike, sad to see it didn't work out.
damn the algo blessed me
Just from an outsider PoV, would it not have been better to remove panels to do this? Especially the headlight, you could remove the bezel, and hide the nasty edges under it, same with the main tank panel. I have never done this so you got further than me :) Well done for trying!
Lord. Thank you for this video. I no longer want to try and ppf my multistrada v4s.
A pre cut kit is a lot easier, obviously, but I’d always pay someone to do it.
I am watching this as I open another tab looking at possible options for PPF.
And I have a matte colored bike.
excellent real life reflection
Ive ppfed 3 bikes and 6 cars. Im stubborn. Its way harder than vinyl. You need to let it dry for a few hours and also use edge sealer, its not nearly as malleable as vinyl.
C'est une galère sans nom de poser su ppf.
J'ai fait des essais sur un cache latéral, pas trop compliqué de forme et c'était un désastre.
Heureusement que je n'avais acheté qu'un mètre pour cet essai, car c'est cher 59€ du mètre plus un raclette plus un ruban coupe fil, résultat 100€ de jeté 😢
Can you not remove headlight front cover of the housing? It would be easier if that's possible
Is your headlight cracked at the bottom left?
Use masking tape>cut the masking tape to size>overlay the masking tape to the ppf>cut the shape>then apply your precut ppf with t he exact size of the part>done
I like your channel and your down to earth honest attitude, but your advice about keeping your tracker fob with your keys isn’t the greatest, if they get your keys they get your fob a better solution is to keep the fob away from your keys in your pocket jacket.
Well I loved having it on my Ducati and was thinking about a DIY on my Aprilia but now I will DEFINITELY pay someone else to install it! If you can't do it, I'm certainly not gonna try.
Give it a try you might find it easier lol
What brand of ppf you are using
Sunday Funday, whooo.
I forgot it was Sunda[y] today 😅.
Lol! Seen a moni moto calling from Lithuania and just jumped in surprise! Are you Lithuanian?!
Great effort bud. You made it far further than I could've so cheers to you! I'm glad you made the video.
I tried this on my ducati a while back with little success. Maybe try something with less angles first to learn how the material works. Like a car. Wrapping a motorcycle is not easy.
Yes like what iantalbot said, they precut into the shape of your bike part. the shop i went to squeeze in as much of the parts into a certain amount of material so it wont be pricey, cheers didnt know you own this thought it was your dads ride safe
You will notice the template kits always leave a small gap around the edges.
Hey bro, i think it would be a lot easier process if you stencil out the places on your bike with tracing paper, and then on a flat surface cut the ppf from the stencils.
I’m gonna try the poor man’s version… cling film! I’ll let you know how I get on lol
sharper blades tooooo
Eagerly waiting for the project R1 again🙂
Guess now we know why all the DIY PPF is cut to size style.
You could try to cut out a template from paper,then cut the foil using the template,maybe🤔.I would think it would be a lot easier to make nice cuts,then position it with water
True that lol did parts on my 08 gsr n that was a right pain in the ass
take a paper, draw arround the headlight, take ir out, trace it wit sizzors ppf and you will have precut
Lithuania mentioned ??? wooow !! but why was the monimoto call from a lithuanian phone number ?
Sooo ffffing good video
Oh, wait. You have a GS?😮
You need tack solution for the edges, alcohol+water. It will stick like hell. 👍
Water and heat are your friends. 👍
Any other GS owners shouting at the screen unbolt the light surround use it as a template?
Just me. 😂
It would have been much easier if you removed the housing around the headlight
You need sharper blade
Im glad i have cheap sub 10k bikes that i don’t care about if they get a little dirty (adv and a dual sport lol)
Your blades are sharp... but not 'Sharp' like a scalpel blade.
PPF while being similar to Vinyl it isn't Vinyl. With vinyl you work in triangles and heat to sqrink and tighten up, most PPFs that I know of don't.
i have a video suggestion, use your phone as a 2nd speedometer by connecting your bike with Bluetooth OBD2 (different bikes need different something-to-OBD2 conversion cable), connect the OBD2 to your phone, open up live engine information from any apps, place your phone on your mount, bam! you got more information about your bike displayed.
Ya would get alot better results if you removed what you were wrapping then re fitted
Your cutting angle with the knife is too vertical that’s why the edges are ragged, angle down the blade as much as possible
You could try applying masking tape to the part you want to cover to make a template which you can then cut to make a flat pattern that you can then cut film from.
My text might not make sense but there's a video from ZRCarbon where he makes a template for pre-preg carbon. ua-cam.com/video/ytP-t_B5J90/v-deo.htmlsi=Hl_JhOCyJQf6CaHL&t=971
You could apply this technique for making a pre-cut film.
New mudguard: 60 Dollars. Wasted lifetime: priceless.
Scissors
Did you just have to give up that fast..?
R E S P E C T
Use a brand new blade
Can you ask a professional with your "youtuber charm" to show you how, so you could show us? Don't tell him the last part, he will loose customers
Clear coat it why would you do this 😂
Clear coat lasts much less and is much less protective.
no offence but what do you think Vencro is used for??
caller from lithuania, hmm🫨