Sid Lowe APPLAUDS Swedish FA for rejecting VAR | ESPN FC
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- Sid Lowe APPLAUDS Swedish FA for rejecting VAR | ESPN FC
The ESPN FC crew react to Sid Lowe’s strong thoughts on Swedish FA rejecting VAR after clubs raised objections.
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It is amazing how quickly we've forgotten all the issues the game had before VAR that were alleviated. Sure, we can talk about players looking for contact in the penalty box, but remember that before VAR it was a valid strategy to just flop and if the ref fell for it there was no way out no matter how obvious.
Or look up something like Arnautovic's red card in Sweden v Austria (featuring Elmander). That's the kind of garbage we used to have that isn't viable anymore.
Is VAR perfect? Of course not. Could it be implemented better? Of course. But anyone who thinks that football has gotten less fair because of VAR is completely deluded.
Also, believing that going from 94% to 97% isn't massive is too ignorant to realize that this HALVES the amount of mistakes. That's massive. Because of those 94% correct decisions, the vast majority wouldn't even be contested. So when it comes to actual decisions, the increase is even more noticeable.
VAR is awesome!
@@DrZaius3141 I was gobsmacked hearing this, that someone was allowed to not only spew anecdotal stats out on a professional network, but then to completely misrepresent the change as a 3% change when it was a 50% difference!!!
You are right. It's a question of implementation. Not the fact that it enhances the referee's ability to make crucial decisions based on better information capture.
I don’t care if it improves accuracy of decisions. It still should be scrapped. People have less tolerance for referee decisions because of VAR. You can’t celebrate goals anymore.
VAR is not rubbish. Game was riddled before. VAR has brought improvement, not prefect, but an improvement.
Massive improvement, the robbery's that would happen every weekend were insane, and we all just had to put up with it, it was criminal at times
No it hasn’t / may get a % of more decisions right but it’s ruining the game as way to slow
Nonsense. The only decisions it's getting "right" that it wasn't getting before are these marginal offsides that nobody cared about before. Now 2cm offside decisions are now the difference between wins and loses.
Before VAR injustices were definitely happening all over the place. This Sid guy is insane.
Given, now only Real is the ultimate benefactor, so one thing didn't change
Stfu. Real lives in your undeveloped brain 24/7🤡
Injustices were real but subjectively they were more often genuine mistakes - now Var with its million replays and angles have NO EXCUSE to be using subjective opinion in the game
Indeed the rules have actually been streamlined to help Var succeed, ie HANDBALL is HANDBALL but for a very few definitive rules like hands at the players side.
Instead the player can do whatever he likes if he plays for Man City and the response is "not for me" Arsenal player can play basketball ball in his area to stop Salah scoring and it's fine. That's not a mistake it's something far more sinister
@@companyofculesReal Madrid has the highest number of goals dissallowed by far (i mean goals that Real Madrid score). You are categorically wrong.
@@sugarsaint What you're describing is not so much of a VAR problem as it is a "Rule Around Var" problem. If you have a corrupt league like the EPL, of course you'll have tons of problems even with VAR - but now referees don't have the excuses that they had before - like "We only have a split second to make a call". At least, now we have an explanation for their bad calls - and can't claim that it's because they were under pressure - or the action happened too fast - or too far.
Remember, if the teams want the rules of the league to change, they will. But this is not a problem with VAR specifically. You're right in that rules around handball need to be less subjective. We also need to keep tabs on referees that make questionable calls - vet, and sanction them according to their performances.
But, please - do not advocate for going back to "Naked eyes". I suffered a lot especially in the Barcelona days.
Swedish FA just trying to cut costs lol. No one thought VAR would get rid of every bad call. People believed they would be reduced greatly and they were (94% to 97% means a 50% decrease in incorrect calls). It even discourages dirty play like diving. It’s not VAR’s fault that referees are sometimes unable to use it correctly. And the argument that it prevents players from celebrating is just weird because they still do
That is really inaccurate. Swedish FA wanted to imply VAR. The fans of the clubs voted against it. 51% rule and democracy. Has nothing to do with Swedish FA or costs
Exactly!! 50%!
Watch next season when some calls go the wrong way.
EPL voted against semi-automated offside, now they want it.
@@thomas2435fair enough but my point still stands that the criticism VAR gets is unwarranted
@@Kevinnn111 I get your point. But we don’t want VAR because we think it ruins the emotions of the game. Mistakes are part of football and it feels very good to celebrate a goal knowing it won’t be ruled out after a 5 minute check where they draw sketchy lines. Also, in Sweden, VAR would be way worse than in the bigger leagues because of available camera angles and so on. So it’s not because of the incorrect calls that we don’t want it, it’s because it ruins the emotions we believe.
We also don’t have goal line technology which I think would be good, but many in sweden see it as a gateway to introducing VAR and I also agree with that
Stevie is completely right and it’s very refreshing seeing someone who’s older and played the game so long ago being on the side of technology
We aren't now going to pretend that the controversies with VAR are the same with out VAR. It's also still new there is so much left to be done to improve it. but even this version is better than before
Appoint Afcon VAR officials to train them! Not one controversy throughout the tournament.
Stevie on 🎯, we just need to improve how var is used
Sid’s archaic approach and old school football mentality is legit like saying, “yes 10 percent of weapons went past airport security, so therefore we don’t need airport security whatsoever.” Soooo delusional
Why was VAR working so well at AFCON but not in Europe?
Maybe because they don't mess around, they're tough.
VAR is an absolute mess in England.
Well said Stevie, VAR is a MUST & here to stay. It has improved the game but is only not perfect because of the incompetent referees using the technology. Imagine if a clear offside was the difference between winning the title/surviving relegation but it was missed cos there was no technology, wonder how Sid would be feeling after that…
Sid is right - actual match going fans have been polled and they're mostly against VAR. Those who sit at home don't have the same experience.
It's 2024, every country that can afford it should have VAR involved. This whole anti-VAR message is really odd. The problem lies not with the actual technology, but with those who operate it.
So we're spotting things we haven't spotted before, to make it a fairer game; and that's wrong. Got it.
VAR has been around in Rugby and Cricket since the beginning of time. It's simple, easy and frankly normal. It's 2024...
Completely different sports
Sid is expecting VAR to completely wipe out human error, but how can it when it's human operated.
I guess this means they prefer to spontaneously celebrate goals offside than not so spontaneously celebrate fair goals 🤷♂️
Stevie is completely right. And I don't get ppl like sid saying var massively effects games badly like its a fact. Games feel almost the same to me as before. Few more stoppages to get the right calls... Big deal
VAR is not about making the game perfect. As long as theres a net positife its worth it which there is. And as time goes on theyll continually improve it such as semi automated offside. It is the way forward. We cant go back now
I think VAR and replays can still be effective while maintaining game flow if some restrictions are made (Limited zoom/slo-mo and if there isn’t anything clear/obvious after 20 seconds, play on)
LMAO SID HIGH SCHOOL PHOTO LOOKING LIKE A HOGWARTS STUDENT
The problem is not with technology but the officials using it. VAR was so aptly used during the African cup of nations. There were no controversial decisions during the AFCON because of VAR. I thing the UEFA has to probably give refresher courses on the technology.
as much as all these comments are against Sid, I think he has a very valid point. The idea that football had to be "fixed" is the root of most of these problems with VAR right now
it's exhausting when people look at the incompetency and decide "VAR IS BAD!" and not "PGMOL IS BAD!!!" when so much of the problems with VAR happens in england and not other leagues.
Utter drivel from Lowe. VAR has cut down massively on bad calls. Football was getting farcial before it, just a total lottery. VAR is still in its early stages, give it time. And get people who can use it properly, unlike the PL.
true as a spurs fan i am happy that a liverpool fan is saying this. VAR is great.
I can't believe we are having this discussion, VAR is not perfect but it is miles ahead of what we used to have..
Sid is completely wrong. Stevie is absolutely right.
No, they are both wrong, I am the only one right, and that is 100% of the time, all the time.
It’s a liability, are you kidding?
He reminds me of that Japanese soldier that hasn’t realized WW2 ended 27-30 years ago. It’s like bro you lost, move on.
@user-mc8wi2lg2m Nope
Sid is right. Stevie is right.
VAR is a benefit to the game, there's always going to be subjective decisions that people wont like regardless. I can't count the amount of people I've seen wrongly enraged over VAR. People will always look for someone to blame. The ref Is ultimately responsible for bad decisions, VAR reduces this. The pack mentally you see from enraged people grouping together over perceived injustices is outrageous. It's understandable when things are objectively wrong but it's often a matter of opinion (dus the 'clear and obvious'). There would be more objectively wrong decisions without VAR. Some people need to wake up to that reality. People praising Sweden for this are wrong to do so. It's a poor idea to ultimately not reduce bad decisions overall. Accountability on controversial decisions is what I would call out for, based on how often refs or VAR officials make dubious decisions. They should be demoted to lower leagues or potentially face being sacked. An open merit system on bad/good officiating if you will. Accountability for the individuals, not the removal of the tools (VAR) that ultimately help more than they hinder.
P.S- Please don't engage me in the replies, I've said my thoughts on the matter. Not looking to debate or converse about it with others.
I completely agree with Sid here. VAR has fundamentally changed the best moment in sports - the moment when your team scores a goal. It used to be such a wonderful explosion of joy - now it’s yay-oh-uh well now let’s wait to see if what we just watched will actually count. And we still have just as much controversy about bad calls now as we used to.
The best moments in sports happen with fairness stop it nobody wants to see people diving everytime their in the box
goal line technology, and that's it. Beyond that VAR is unnecessary. Oh, and getting GOOD referees and linesmen.
I hate that technology with all my heart. It messed up the beautiful game
Sid saying going from 94% to 97% correct decisions thanks to VAR isn't good enough, well that literally means that the amount of wrong decisions has been reduced by 50% though..
Don't need VAR? Tell it to Ireland
There's no debate. VAR needs to be in the game. End of story
We need to see more of Sid. Intelligent writer.
4:52 "clear and obvious" not being exactly that is NOT an issue with VAR. It's an issue of interpretation of footballing laws. If anything, VAR has made us realize that many of our laws rely on interpretation and hence, need reworking.
Unfortunately a lot of fans here in Sweden are against VAR (which is why the FA has not been able to go through with it).
VAR issues have to fixed. It is ruining the game
While it has fixed few things…
VAR is an improvement on the game. How the different leagues use it, however, leaves a lot questions rather than answers.
With all the problems that we've had with the VAR it's still better than no VAR at all. I think the biggest problem of the VAR is all of this nonsense about "is it really clear and obvious" and "the VAR must not re-referee the game" that created this grey area that people can use to justify all kinds of calls. At the end the person that sees the most should have the possibility to evaluate the game on his own without having to consider if there may be a reason why the original call by the referee might not be totally wrong. The VAR needs more responsibility not less.
VAR just gives you the opportunity to revisit some genuine refreeing mistakes, the final decision is for the refree to make. VAR has drastically improved refreeing and there is no going back. Its a new tech and it will improve. Me as a fan i don't wanna lose games and trophies because of refreeing mistakes.
Pundits and commentators keep saying "we need to use var betrer"... but var in EPL gs in complete shambles. Howard web and PGMOL are responsible
The subtle "hates VAR" below Sid's name 😂😂😂🙈
Fixed time!!!! Pause the clock whenever it goes out of play and thats it.
Get rid of it. Cant celebrate a goal anymore. Its runied the best part of the game
Does VAR help refs make more accurate calls absolutely. I just prefer it without VAR because refs messing up brought an extra level of excitement to the game. The refs calls brought another dynamic to the game, it was like a mystery box you just didn’t know what you would get and honestly it was fun
I’m sure VAR will helpus on the road to endless but perfect and controversy free 0 -0 games with perfect attacking and defending BORING
VAR should be used like tennis or cricket. Give the captains and managers the right to send the ref to the monitor 2 times every game (you only lose if the decsion isn't changed). And semi-automated offsides.
Will add a new dimension to the game. will take expenditure on extra var officials etc and will put the onius on the team to get their decisions checked.
It definitely feels it disrupts the game. I also think its changing how players play the game. Trying to look for things like PKs rather than play and score.
Players were diving since foerver
Do you remember the Goal from Maradona against England (the Hand of God). Some people forgot the 80 and 90 with al the weird goals and hard fouls.
true if there was var back then england would ahve lost 5-1 as they wouldn't have been able to kick maradonna as much as they were able to.
Just have an appeal system like cricket; three appeals and if it’s a good call they keep them, if it’s a false one you lose your chances.
VAR, Very Annoying Regulations. Needs to go. If not, it needs to be implemented correctly by the officials. Too many grey areas with the current rules.
Refs are already awful. You want to remove something holding refs accountable.
Sid is an amazing journalist. I completely agree with him and his points. VAR has really killed my enjoyment of the game. I notice that I watch less football now.
Where would Varca and Varchester be without it? 😂
If you saw Chukwueze's disallowed goal vs Sassuolo the other week you'll know automatic offside isn't perfect either
Just use var when the goal is on the line or over the line..handball in the penalty should only be consistent enough for referee to judge whether it's ball to hand or hand to ball.. handballs outside the box need not have to use VAR..it's the referee decision without the var .
VAR was supposed to help better decisions but they are not. Most times they backed up wrong decisions of the referees or didn’t intervene because not “clear and obvious”
Zlatans height sees everything from above and only through zlatans approval can a goal be allowed😂
As a fan. Try celebrating a goal these days...you need to wait 5mins to see if it is a goal or not.
VAR as is belongs in the bin. There are at most four things video assist should be used for imo. Goal line technology, fully automated offside decisions, finding hidden red card worthy offenses and clearing up cases of mistaken identity. In short VAR should only deal with things that either don't break the flow of the game or that truly violate the spirit of the game. Everything else should be in the hand of the on-field referee with no outside interference. Yes, there will be a few more wrong decisions, but real football isn't a factory product, it's entertainment. And human imperfections are a significant part of what entertains people.
With music most studio produced songs are arguably better than listening to a live performance if we are talking about audio quality and yet listening to a band in person is a far better experience even if the singer messes up a note, the lead guitar misses a beat and the audio equipment isn't tuned to perfection. Same with art, something fully computer generated without human input doesn't speak to us on the same level as what a painter can do, because of the human imperfections and idiosyncrasies.
With football all the wrong decisions we argue about are part of the entertainment. Of course you want as few as possible, but if they occur in the heat of the moment and just because of human limitations and not gross incompetence we can accept it if we enjoy it live. What kills the enjoyment is celebrating a goal only to watch the referee stand around for a minute and then run to some screen and decide wherher to award the goal because of a supposed foul somewhere.
Stop treating football as something you order on Amazon and from which you can expect perfection and treat it as the human live performance it is.
When decisions go against teams, they'll miss VAR.
Sweden is correct. Technology can’t fix everything and clearly it hasn’t. VAR even with replay even with the thousands of angles even with extra people looking at it have still messed up horribly. It is no different mistakes were had before VAR and they are being made with them also.
Why is everybody having a go at Sid. He's just voicing his opinion. How many people on here have moaned about the decisions, week in, week out.
Clear and obvious error.
That is the key, in my opinion.
VAR should only be involved when they spot a clear and obvious error from the referee.
A penalty that takes more than 30 seconds to decide is not clear and obvious.
An offside that takes different color lines on the pitch and players' body to check is not clear and obvious.
A red card foul that takes multiple viewing at 5 different angles at super slo mo is not clear and obvious.
A handball that requires the camera to zoom 400% to find the mark between shoulder and arm is not clear and obvious.
A clear and obvious error should only takes one replay viewing in less than 10 seconds to notice. If not clear and obvious, ruling on the pitch stands.
IT should be rejected at this moment in time, the powers at the top use it too loosely.
Var will improve if the people using it new what they were doing .Better usage like rugby union .
then again should we trust the opinions of someone who can't spell knew
Just keep goal line technology. In the past it was easier to accept a refs mistake. Now fans are always baying for blood
What about goal line technology
VAR for the lines only, those constant interruptions are against the very nature of the game.
VAR may get a % of more decisions right but it’s ruining the game as way to slow in making a decision and way to many stoppages
VAR has been a mess! 😂
VAR is not perfect. It needs improvement. But, there is no way we r going back...
VAR worked well for us Scousers this year , just watch the Spurs game again and get back to him lads!!
To any denier of VAR: Let me hear that strong argument when you get a goal against you on a final and it should’ve been disallowed 😉
The proof we all needed for way too long: the guy is out of his mind.
I’d like to see VAR of the Swedish FA rejection VAR.
Var has killed the fan experience. I rather run the risk of my team having a decision go against them due to referee making an error and I will be able to enjoy football again
Replays have helped the nba for decades
Geez people football has existed for over 100 years without var, and lived with refereeing decisions... which contributed to the excitement and passion of watching a game. Every decision doesn't have to be analysed down to a science
fantastic statement about VAR. VAR WAS THE WORST THING THAT HAPPENED TO FOOTBALL
5:01 like the Barca ghost goal
and the gambling houses rejoiced they thought that point shaving was a dying art they are so back baby
haven't heard a worst take on anything in a while, wow just wow
Sid is on point.
Don’t do away with var lots of mistakes caught
How about you simply have better refs AND VAR? Only the EPL has got as much issues with it. EPL is not a good example. Take notice of other leagues such as Bundesliga or La Liga. They have introduced VAR almost perfectly... those league simply have much higher quality refs than the EPL does.
WOOHOO go Sweden!!!! Sport is entertainment. Does VAR make the sport more or less entertaining? Less. SO, so much less. Instead of a wrong decision, we get to wait 5 min for a wrong decision.
And why is Stevie defending VAR? His Liverpool lost the title (10+ points) to refs/VAR, not City or Arsenal (ie Doku high booting McAllister in the Chest, Luis Diaz "offside", Odegaard handball, Gakpo live ball). We tried VAR, it hasn't worked, so let's try automated offsides and maybe--like goal-line tech--it'll be ok and a good addition.
Isn't VAR just the FA trying to cover themselves legally after getting sued by relegated clubs a couple years back? I mean seriously this is crazy.
They know Malmo would never win the league again🤣🤣
Sid Lowe is such a top journalist. I don't agree with him on this particular issue, but he puts his thoughts and opinions across very, very well. Love listening to him.
It's like people who complaing about VAR don't understand there are humans behind it. There's nothing wrong with the system....humnas will just always make mistakes.
not a big fan of VAR but now swedish fans have to accept that referees makes mistakes !!
Sid is just a romantic. He believes we should be fine if referees make a wrong decision and the whole world accepts it as sometimes it goes your way, sometimes it doesn’t. It’s an extremely personal and short-sighted point of view. In this day and age, if officials don’t look at replays, you can 100% bet every news channel, media outlet, YT creator, etc will look at replays and will bring a tremendous amount of pressure to bear on referee performance. Can you imagine if Maradona’s Hand of God happened today and there was still no VAR? Do you think with media being so much more present and immediate today you could tell England the same “just accept it” line? Before the game was over, replays would be going, clips of the handball from stadium spectators would start going viral on Twitter, etc. Maybe even before the game is over, the referee’s head would be demanded. And Sid thinks that scenario is fine. That if a handball eliminates a country from the World Cup, that’s fine because it otherwise interrupts game flow. He’s English but I doubt he speaks for England in this case.
We need a VAR Lite, because I fundamentally don't like offsides because of 'a toe', or something of the same ilk.
Sid Lowe "Really hate VAR" hahahaha well played ESPN!
Good job Sweden 🇸🇪 👏 👍
Sid just be yapping
Never forget Chelsea vs Barcelona, thats why we need VAR
Unbelievable....all these fans are then the ones that cry out corruption or conspiracy theories when a ref gets a decision wrong.
A much better way to Have VAR would be to have automated offsides and for the subjective decisions ie fouls, penalties have the team possess a coaches challenge which they can issue within 15s or so, like in cricket and have the referee revisit those instances if reuqested.That would move the onus of deciding clear and obvious on to the teams and reduced the scrutiny on the referees