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I felt like Barbie telling the old woman she's beautiful was the moment that she realized that she wanted to be human and to grow old too.
isn’t the lady that they casted also the actual barbara millicent roberts that barbie is based off of
This is how I interpreted it too. She'd never seen an old woman before.
i think it also showed that she had no preconceived notion towards the idea of aging , since society is disgusted towards the concept
Wow that's deep...
@@keyareuh_ nope unfortunately
I’m a cis straight woman, and when I was watching Barbie movie in the theater, for a moment I thought that it might have been too preachy about womens rights, but then when America Ferrera was giving that great speech and the only man in the whole audience, who was clearly dragged there by his wife, started talking out loud to his phone, and all the women in the audience just starred at him without saying anything… that’s when I thought, you know what, this movie got it right.
When that scene happened, this older couple literally left the theatre lol
you're JOKING! I woulda slapped that man right in his face what the actual?!
@@gonzo9778the fact that some people literally cannot handle women being anything other than silent broodmares is infuriating.
I don’t think it was ever too preachy. If anything it didn’t go far enough and largely just stuck to 2012 girl boss feminism in a lot of ways (since more people are willing to hear out that kind of feminism as opposed to the age of feminism we’re in today)
I saw people leave the theater during that scene!!
ok but trixie, the scene where barbie tells the older woman she’s beautiful is integral to the film because it’s when barbie begins to be more human. she is finally rooted in (our) reality. she sees another human for who she is. it is a gorgeous scene!
For real. It’s baffling to me how critical she is of the tiniest shit about the movie yet was praising tarantino a few weeks ago and his movies are FULL of unimportant dialogue that add nothing to the story
I think for tracy it’s more of a critique on continuity/writing not the meaning behind the scene. You’re not supposed to introduce a character or idea to then never see them again, it’s bad storytelling technique. The sentiment, the idea, is there; the older woman just isn’t. Honestly would’ve been better writing for Barbie to have that scene with Ruth.
@@jayroc62 The whole point is that Barbie is so pure that she finds beauty in total strangers/the world around her. Her not being a character is central to the purpose of the scene
@@samdayton395 …re-read my comment lol. I’m talking plain storytelling mechanics not the point behind anything. I get what you’re saying about Barbie finding beauty in any passerby, but the “old woman stranger” is a character who carries an important lesson for Barbie (like you said) and is just never seen again. I’m not saying the scene is bad, it just could be better written.
Amen. I'm actually flabbergasted shes being so critical. I absolutely LOVE the film. And her saying the scene with the old woman doesn't make sense or the conflict with the kens needed "higher stakes" I really really disagree with everything she's saying.. except for the Ken song being too long. Everything with the Kens worked for me....especially when the kens are "mansplaining" such easy things. It's done so well
I think we need to mark this in herstory as one of the few times the fans have disagreed with Trixie and Katya
I personally love the fact that the old woman from the bench scene is Oscar-winning costume designer Ann Roth.
c’mon trivia!
This is cool, I didn’t know that and just looked it up! Lots of people in the comments incorrectly saying she’s related to the Barbie inventor.
There's a great article in NY Times magazine about Greta.and all this stuff
And how everyone has been telling their friends it's Barbara Handler including me. 😭
I DIDNT KNOW THAT WERKKKK
FYI the producers wanted to take that scene out at the bus stop with the old lady saying it served no narrative purpose. Gerwig said, "If this scene isn't in the movie, I don't know what the movie is about." So it was kept in at her insistence.
Gerwig was right. The bus stop scene serves to connect to the end. But ofc they're absolutely entitled and valid for their opinions.
EDIT: by they I mean Katya and Trixie
SO glad that scene stayed; it was the best part. I was surprised by the emotions it stirred up.
What do you wanna bet that at least some of the producers were men? Because I haven't even seen the movie, and I know how important that line is.
@@kaylinsmith6921 It was 50/50 between female & male producers.
@@Corbomite_MeatballsI am not surprised.
I loved the natural makeup look on Margot. It’s more relatable. And reducing her makeup as she became more lifelike and felt more emotions was such an amazing choice
Trixie is always very critical of women aging and women's appearance. It's like a weird female youth obsession
I’m obsessed with Katya cutting up all her white t-shirts into tank tops
I know. I ❤ it.
Ditto
Do you know who the people are on Katya’s shirt?
Same. "Silence of the Lambs" today.
She's been choppin it up
It's so interesting seeing what parts didn't resonate as much with Trixie and Katya. The scene with the woman on the bench made the end make sense for me. Barbie sees the beauty in imperfection and humanity. That's why Barbie wants to be human. Also the beach fight scene when it's just Saving Private Ryan made me lol
At the end of the day they're two men and you can't really expect some scenes to resonate with people who won't truly understand the experience
@@komamangaii231👏 💯
@@komamangaii231yes, and that’s fine! And they’re just expressing their personal opinions, and not trying to change anyone’s mind about it.
@theoriginal1971 I agree, it's moreso about their fans trying to preach to the deaf or blind or wicked or whatever the saying is. The movie is not for everyone to love
Sadly I think it’s because they’re cis men at the end of the day and just won’t understand a lot of it, which I can’t blame them for. The movie is about womanhood lol
the scene at the end where she went to the gyno resonates as an ending because it's framed as if she's walking into her first day of work or something similar. for the last line to be "I'm here to see my gynecologist!"" represents barbie taking control of her bodily autonomy and entering the human phase of her life with enthusiasm and excitement. her ending is not that she has to have a job or a boyfriend, but just that she gets to be human. i found it a really awesome way to end the movie, especially in a political climate that is actively stripping bodily autonomy away from women and people with vaginas. also barbie chose to be human/have a vagina so i don't really think that's any sort of statement about being cis vs trans lol
I still think it was stupid. Gynecologists are unnecessarily painful and intrusive . It's also not something most women look forward to or ever want to do. Or something that's a hallmark of womanhood at all
@@katc2040but i don't think barbie would have known that at all. If anything, i feel like she'd be excited because it would kind of be like "human validation". Plus it was supposed to be funny
@@katc2040 gyno visits are a necessity as a cis woman for health purposes, that's the point. and if theyre hurting you, you need a new doc.
I just thought it was like “oh I’m human now and got a coochie and don’t know how it works, time to go to the Gyno” but what you said is good too
@@katc2040Barbie had never had genitals before, knew nothing and just got a vagina, I think it makes sense to go there to figure it out💀
I'd have to disagree about the woman on the busstop scene. She told her she was beautiful because she'd never seen an old person, and she was admiring the beauty of female maturity. Something that hollywood as a whole has famously struggled with. At the end, she says that she wants to be human and truly live and eventually, grow old. Its ultimately a movie about what it means to be a woman, but more so, the beauty of what it means to be human. ❤
that was beautifully put. i cried at that scene
Yesss, I love how you worded this. Aging is always something that women and girls are told to avoid at all cost, when in reality, we take advantage of our ability to actually live long enough to experience the world and grow old 😢
It also dispels the old adage that big North-Eastern cities like NY “are kind but not nice and LA (specifically Hollywood) is nice but not kind.”
First time Barbie sees an old woman and she goes against the eternal youth beauty and the first thing she thinks is “you’re beautiful” that’s the f*cking point Trixie
trixie has always been a lowkey dumbass, are you really surprised
Lol i get your point, i made the same one in a separate comment . . . but the attitude is a bit much
lmao yeaahh i don't give a shit what any man thinks of this movie, gay or straight
relax you old woman
Girl why r u so mad lol
Katya sat through Dune like 7 times and loved it but fears Oppenheimer will be too long and boring??! 😭😭
I think it’s because dune is a story about a new world and mystical laws, while Oppenheimer is WW2 history that is honestly just depressing 😪
I just think biopics are redundant personally, so I get what they’re saying.
Edit; I’ve yet to see the film tho, so maybe it *is* a beautiful retelling of history or something along those lines. Biopics are so often done poorly, but every once in a while we get an iTonya!
That scene with the old woman hit me so hard while I watching Barbie! It hit me like a ton of bricks and made me want to sob right there. It was this beautiful moment of human being connecting to human being and sharing a giggle with a stranger. It was the feeling of being in a girls bathroom at the bar. It was giving a big middle finger to every standard that says that us women lose any sort of value we have the moment we start getting crows feet and laugh lines and grey hair. That was the first big emotional punch of the movie for me and honestly, almost every woman that I know felt the same way.
YES, thank you! that scene was so beautiful. it reminded me of my grandma, which made me burst into tears.
Saame i started quietly bawling atp. It's kind of like feeling all the human emotions and the sense of pure life going through you after years of fitting yourself in a mold to be digestable and uphold this fake image of yourself, of a beauty, a mystery, a certain type of girl or whatever the f. It's this point of just breaking and embracing that under all this crap you're still a little human who kind of just wants connection and running around in nature. Very freeing but terrifying moment too 😭
I love how they said they were gonna start winding down the pod, and give us a warning before they go, but they've progressively gotten more and more abrupt and spontaneous with it.
i've literally been thinking the same thing over the last month of eps!
I feel like there needs to be a video on Brittany’s channel of her breaking down for Trixie how meaningful this movie was for women and why
the bus stop scene relates because barbie’s don’t age and margot’s barbie saw this woman who had lived a full life and knew she wanted to be human
@JasonRodriguez-kq7jtPatty don’t start
no matter how much we like to call T&K biological women, i feel like having a real, personal female experience informs how you perceive the barbie movie ESPECIALLY the bus stop scene & the second half when things get heavy - not saying that every female identifying person should be deeply emotionally affected but i genuinely have not spoken to a single woman who didnt get what the movie was about, whether they liked it or not. and idk but the way i saw it, the whole ken arc was always secondary/just a foil to barbie's self-actualization 🤷🏻♀️ i know they're not being haters for the sake of being haters & genuinely want something to like about the movie but...always consider that maybe the movie wasn't made with your lived experience in mind lol
😘🤌
Precisely this!! I haven't even seen the movie but them talking about how they wanted weird baarbie to look cooler missed the point - she's like a Cynthia doll. A little girl scribbled on her and made her wacky for fun, not for the male gaze
@@soul_asmrmaybe see the movie before you state your opinion. They’re right about that one. Her character design was bad
YES
@@soul_asmrI guess, but they definitely still tried to make weird barbie appear fun and quirky, and not similar to the real horrors we've committed on our dolls, mine had blue ballpoint pen lipstick and basically a buzzcut 🤷
Katya's look of utter bewilderment at Trixie feeling frisky, but not with herself in mind is gold.
The fact that Katya thought that the sound of David crying got Trixie aroused is a little insight into the former’s mindset re; sex.
*Katya;* “I don’t wake up with people” (gestures hand across throat.)
_So how many heads are in your freezer Ms Katya Dahmer?_
😂
I feel like the old woman scene is important because it’s the first time Barbie really realizes that people age and that maybe *she* could age and grow into literally the only thing she hasn’t tried yet: *not* a commercially attractive, photo ready, audience facing concept of a woman
wow you got all that from a character that had one line and in one scene that was never mentioned again? do you think you might be projecting your own ideal on what might not be that deep of a scene
@@cecille5833Greta Gerwig herself said this scene is the heart of the movie
@@cecille5833 tell me you’ve never taken a media literacy class without *telling* me you’ve never taken a media literacy class 😂
@@cecille5833 Yes, that was the message and purpose of the scene. How do YOU and Trixie miss it???
@@cecille5833 Girl, thats the whole point of movies, scenes that have a meaning to the whole story lmao
I think Barbie complementing the older woman was because in Barbie world they don’t get old so she’s happy to see older women and she still finds her beautiful
Trixie, gotta say, it's a little two white men discussing women's issues. BUT: the film has flaws, and you hit on some of them.
But tbh, the thing is: there has never been a film as feminist from mainstream hollywood. That's a shameful fact, but it's a fact. It's the first time many of us have seen our feelings on the BIG screen, and not just at arthouse french cinema 😭
I would love it if you'd have Greta or Margot on to discuss the film. Let's be real, you're famous enough y'all might just swing it.
"and not just at arthouse french cinema" OMG is this a reference to stuff like Jeanne Dielman and One Sings the Other Doesn't?
Girl shut upppp 😭 This film was not deep or profound in any way at all. Its feminism was shallow and its ultimately a corporate cash grab. Also them being white? Has nothing to do with criticising this film which is literally about a white girls problems 😭
Do I love Trixie and Katya? Yes. Do I also love seeing them getting semi-roasted and dragged and scalped on TikTok and UA-cam comments cuz of their opinions on the Barbie movie? Also yes 😄
I don’t get why they’re being roasted tho?
when your life is so boring that all you care about are others thoughts on the barbie movie
At the end of the day they're men. Sometimes men need to listen to women to understand a woman's perspective. Trixie especially.
these two especially benefit from misogyny. i mean they always comment on women’s appearances and basically imply that women who age are ugly and unattractive
I brought my 14 year old son to see barbie and straight away we got the old woman scene . Both of us said “oh she wants to be real” 💕
That’s so cute 🥰
That scene is so lovely and displays the beauty that is simply living and growing old~
Hopefully T&K read the comments and understand that a bit more 😅
AWWWW 😭
This exactly. Only ideas live forever, they literally say it in the movie. She doesn't want to be idea, she wants to real.
watching trixie and katya completely miss the point of Barbie is, in many ways, hysterical
yes they look like women but they are indeed men.
They hated Ken but loved Ryan Gosling. So confused lol
@@thedragonsunicorn those are two cis women what do you mean?
I hate everyone attacking Trixie and Katya because the Barbie movie definitely made a lot of women feel a lot of emotions, but at the end of the day that is the best the movie could do , the movie was not a good representation of Barbie it definitely needs to bring out other aspects to it. But I as a woman I totally agree with Trixie and Katya And it is fine for someone to not like the Barbie movie. That doesn't make them anti feminist or anything. The movie had a good point. Made people feel very emotional. But that's about it.
Truly. Cause it's so baffling to me
33:21 little funny that trixie dislikes historical movies because you could just look up what happened, then turns around and says that Itonya is a fabulous movie. Love the dolls just a little funny contradiction
I loved I Tonya. Even though I lived through it and know the story I still enjoyed watching it play out. I think maybe that's what he meant.
itonya is not historical, it takes place in the 90s girl😭😭 trixie was literally ALIVE for that. she didnt say she hated biopics, she meant she just didnt like period pieces. be fr
obsessed with Trixie also only referring to Dula as Dula Peep. Truly you are my people
I call her Dula Peep now so often that I often times can't remember her actual name.
a lot of the comments echo this, but the scene where barbie told the old woman she’s beautiful was really meaningful to me, i know the girls have accepted becoming old and haggard but for women aging is one of the most stigmatised things, it’s nice to see .
Trixie demanding a Barbie song when the whole point of the story is that Ken is doing the big dramatic number about his unrequited love, instead of the girl. SIS! 😭
well maybe Barbie’s song could have been about anything else but love?
@vannessabanuelos7993 Wouldn't bring the point across in my opinion. I just think Trixie missed a few things and just wants a traditional story. No need to defend her, I'm not attacking 💕
Exactly; my kids and their friends got the exchange idea immediately, thought it was hysterical. They’re all theater kids 😂
@@orgyonmyownwell no one is attacking anyone. It’s a valid point that if ken got a song that barbie should get a song. No one implied they had to be about the same topic
@@orgyonmyownget what point across? i’m not serial defender of her but i just so happen to see where these two are coming from with their points about the movie. trixie wants a traditional story? idk how you made that assumption from this pod
Trix and Kat really said “we do not understand the Barbie movie”
Ken playing that song for that long is the equivalent of a man pulling out a guitar during a date. same feeling
Trixie and Katya still giving Barbenheimer even out of drags 😂 werk divas!
Even down to the pink tumbler and the beer bottle 😂
@alderpotz I'd be very surprised if it was beer: Katya doesn't drink.
@@AnneOnymausit’s root beer! :)
Barbie is about girlhood, and the age when you first start interacting with society as a young adult as opposed to a child. The shock of realising how acceptable it still is that women are mistreated, and how jarring that is compared to the innocent confidence of your childhood when you were encouraged to be anything you wanted to be. How difficult it is to reconcile what you’ve believed up until that point, with the way the world seems to work. The movie is about accepting the reality of human imperfection and forging your way through it. You can’t individually change how society sees you, but you don’t have to accept a role assigned to you, the way Barbie doesn’t bend to accommodate Ken’s expectations. Navigating that is what it means live in the world. It’s not about Barbie becoming human, it’s about a girl deciding to dive into life and ‘become a woman’.
the barbie movie hit so different as a trans man because you remember all the childhood moments when you where raised as a girl, but the movie kinda had this message of how you can grow and change, like the seen where Barbies like “i don’t feel like Barbie anymore” and Ruth fully accepts her, it just hit so hard from the trans perspective, made me cry so hard especially that combined with Billies gorgeous song and the montage of girl childhood. I love how depending on who you are you can have different takeaways. I’m sure my trans siblings and sisters also had a totally unique feeling as well. Loved the movie, and loved this episode of the podcast, y’all being such happiness to my days!
I completely understand , i really feel like this movie is for afab people, who were raised afab for the majority of their childhood. My mum thought she might not enjoy the movie cause she never played with barbies as a kid cause she didn’t want too, but when it was revealed that the movie was about the reality of what it’s like being a woman in a man’s world, she loved it. I love trixie and katya, but at the end of the day they are cis men who can never truly understand or comprehend the afab experience.
@@jayne_kiraHe is afab… did you copy and paste your comment from your different comment💀
@@jayne_kirai see where you’re coming from and I agree mostly - but please don’t throw all afab people into one pot. I’m also a trans man and what most of us experience in childhood is so different from what cis women experienced 👍
trans people stop taking everything away from women challenge
@@ohboilien Isn't that true for cis women also? I'm South American, my experience of femininity and girlhood is not super similar to a person in the US and that's probably true to someone in other cultures, specially when I'm 31 and didn't grow up with the internet, nor was I super wealthy.
I don't know at what age girls tend to stop playing with dolls but in my childhood 9-year-olds were talking about boyfriends and what boys they found handsome, most of the girls where I live had children before the age of 15, some as early as 12 and that was common, dolls were more likely to be babies than barbies, both literally and figuratevely.
their dynamic has obviously always been perfect but the last few pod episodes are just on a dif level. i smile nonstop watching these
Me too even when I vehemently disagree with little things they say, I’m still sitting there like 😀😆 “I love them” lol
exactly what i was thinking!! they’re so fun to watch together ❣️
It was the “I Like to Watch” episode where part of the background set falls away making a loud snap that did it for me! Trixie screaming in fear and jumping on Katya taking her down with her wig falling off as a climax was unscripted and funny a f! It also gives a little insight into their relationship; how Trixie considers Katya a source of protection during an unexpected, frightening event; like that prop falling was Armageddon! 😂
Same! I’ve rewatched these past few a couple times now and it’s just as lovely to rewatch
I do not think Barbie is saying all women have vaginas and here's why. There is a point ab 3/4 through the movie in which America's character says something to the effect of, even though you're a doll you are already a woman. Barbie is established as a woman while it is understood she has a doll body. Barbie's conclusion comes when she decides to become human. The final scene leads the audience to believe she is going for a job interview, something that would confirm her place in the human world. Instead the misdirection occurs, and her assertion of being human is a gynecologist appointment. Thus, Barbie is asserting that because society understands the character Barbie to be a woman without knowledge of her biology, then womanhood only exists based on society's perception of womanhood rather than some biological certainty. At the same time, it is neutralizing language around vaginas as simply being a feature of humanity. I have a feeling Greta Gerwig read Judith Butler's theories on gender performativity while making Barbie, or that they had influence somehow.
Last few years as a trans woman ive been so hard on myself and the idea of aging, the idea that ive transitioned in my mid to late 20s and felt the pressure that i need to preserve myself, i cant get old i cant look my age, a literal ingrained fear thats been in the back of my brain. I LOVED the scene at the buss stop, it made me realise i look my age because im an adult woman, its normal, its great that i can age and will one day be a wrinkly old happy woman i never thought id be able to be.
And i feel like its such an important scene because its breaking from the idealised image of womanhood thats sold to us and is acceptance of the true beauty of who and what we actually are, real humans who will grow and change and be messy and amazing.
So beautiful! Very much luck for your future and the evolving of becoming a long-lived glamorous old lady!!💓
Thank you for sharing ❤I’m glad you get to age and learn and love. I’m a trans man and I love reading the perspectives of trans siblings on Barbie.
I felt like the “I’m Just Ken” scene being stupid/silly and dragged out was a play on how stupid and unnecessary men’s incessant need to exhibit establish their own masculinity.
And then the music number’s development paralleled to (straight) men’s need to overcompensate for their own masculinity to other (straight) men which in turn ends up being quite homoerotic
@@jessicaportilla2761precisely!! You hit the nail on the head
And overall the number unnecessarily being longer than it needed to be/ forcing the audience to sit through it despite people ,including myself, wanting it to be over. Can be seen as another play on how men are entitled and allowed to take up space and be put on a pedestal to be listened to (despite it some times it being dragged out, unnecessary, and/or not really contributing any value to certain situations) and how women are expected/ forced to provide and hold space for said men.
Hard agree.
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That crazy ass lookin alien lmao
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I will say, I have not seen the Barbie movie yet but someone did point out in a short that wierd Barbie is supposed to be the Barbie that you gave to a toddler. Like, a kid that’s too young and too destructive to play ‘correctly’ and hence left her with half chopped hair, skribbles in marker on her face, and legs stuck in a permanent split.
I mention this because it makes total sense with Katya’s comment about ‘skribbles on a beautiful face’ because that’s exactly what happened. The kids didn’t go full doll makeover and change her base paint and she didnt come in the box looking like that. She was used and abused and abandoned just to get shunned by her own people for looking weird so you can understand why she might have gone a little crazy too
Trixie is being ultra-critical of something she loves so, so much. Makes sense. We all do that. And Katya telling her to stop singing immediately was 🤌
Its so interesting hearing about the parts of Barbie that you didnt relate to. So much of the movie was for people who had early, formative memories of playing with Barbies
Same, i really feel like this movie is for afab (assigned female at birth) people, who were raised afab for the majority of their childhood. My mum thought she might not enjoy the movie cause she never played with barbies as a kid cause she didn’t want too, but when it was revealed that the movie was about the reality of what it’s like being a woman in a man’s world, she loved it. I love trixie and katya, but at the end of the day they are cis men who can never truly understand or comprehend the afab experience.
I'm a gay male and my boyfriend pointed out: this movie is not for "women on one level but men on another level even though it's for women. Like it's not even for gay men although they'll like it. It's for women full stop." (That was his full description). And I respect that.
@@jayne_kiranot gonna lie as a trans woman I've (although relatively recently) experience a lot of the shit America farrera was talking about, I pass and so people treat me as a woman without a second thought and the amount of shit you walk into while trying to meet others expectations, trying to fit what your told to be but always doing it wrong or too well or not enough and suddenly being the target of malice and any points you make or stands you take turning the men around you into children who immediately shut you down. Like I think anyone who's experienced womanhood can relate to this movie, it's for women, although I recognise this would hit into childhood feelings for cis women and afab people.
@@derekpearce4987 The movie is definitely most affirming for women but I feel that its really meant for everyone, especially for men with important women in their lives. The female experience can be difficult to verbalize and many women don’t express those frustrations with the men around them, so I think the movie did a good job in pulling in a male crowd that would’ve stayed a little more ignorant otherwise. Though it’s still a movie by women for women, it’s still incredibly important that it’s marketed for everyone so that it provokes these conversations that usually get stuck in echo chambers.
@@jayne_kira I found it really shallow though as far as the female experience. It was very girlboss feminism for me and idk - was the gyno scene kinda terf-y? Now I'm thinking yes.
One of the rare times I've ever disagreed with these two lovely biological women, Nolan is one of few filmmakers working today whose film's always justify their length. Oppenheimer flew by for me, 3 hours felt like 2hrs and 15 minutes. I also understand though that not everyone has the same taste in film and his movies won't appeal to everyone. Love you ladies so much ❤️
I want to hear more of Katya’s hook up stories
I don't know if we are ready 😅😅
want Katya to watch Suicide Squad for Harley Quinn.
Me too!! Idk why Trixie asks a question only to interrupt Katya from expanding on something lol 🙄 I’m used to it at this point now. Katya just always seems more relatable so I always wanna hear more!
@@snakey319Oh theyve talked about it! They also talked about how lovely shes in Birds of Prey
Weird Barbie wasn't supposed to be literally weird or look at all like T&K were describing. My childhood babysitter had two daughters who Weird Barbied the hell out of their Barbies, and they looked exactly like Kate McKinnon's character. Like The Misfits from Jem, only everything is done with crayons and scissor cutting skills that can barely be identified as human tool use.
Yes! That’s what we did with our Barbies! Just cut their hair and drew on them with sharpies
them talking about barbie and deeply misunderstanding it made me realise, they are still... men.
the dune book, the candles, the tarot cards and the weird paintings in the background are so true to katya’s character
I think the comment section agrees with me when I say that in fact that scene with the old woman relates to EVERYTHING that the Barbie movie is about 😂 24:18
Weird Barbie is literally a kid drawing on and cutting Barbie's hair, yes? In the stills I've seen it looks just like all the kid's "she's gone to the beauty parlor" Barbies I remember. She could have used some burns, maybe?
Yeah I think she missed the weird Barbie thing and how kids play with Barbies lol
The cheapness of Terrifier is what makes it so good. It's also really unintentionally funny.
hearing Trixie’s opinions on Oppenheimer and Barbie knowing Brittany loves them
Right. I Hope they talk about this! Lol
Trixie the conflict with the Kens wasn’t that they played guitar and rode horses omg 😭 it was them making the Barbie’s inferior to them and treating them like objects instead of fellow people. Like men do to women in the real world..
Also the bus stop scene was beautiful and it was barbie realizing what being human is like, what aging is as she’d never seen it before 😭
I’m kinda concerned Trixie and Katya didn’t get so much of the movie because they’re men.. Which in a way makes sense because it’s mostly about women’s struggles which they won’t _exactly_ understand.. but god they’re missing so much of the meanings and it’s genuinely HURTING me 😭💔
This movie was shallow feminism. But go off
@@fatcat4642 We all have to start somewhere, as a South American there are people out there whose feet are not even in the pool.
I don’t want this to come across as disrespectful or like I am angry BUT Barbie is something that mostly only the girls will understand and I think they did a perfect job at it !! That being said I would also love pod episodes where they review movies cuz I love hearing about what they have to say lol it’s so fun when they do
Trixie’s selfless acts of sexuality are so relatable
When Katya cut off Trixie’s singing L O L
Are we just going to glaze over T -"Um I dont agree with Gay Agenda" K-" to have sex with butts?" I am STILL LAUGHING
@JasonRodriguez-kq7jt I am a Christian and Jesus IS my savior, BUT I can watch flipping Trixie and Katya so I can laugh. I'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with that.
“What did you see? Is it in the room with us now?”Lmfaooooo Katya is a STAR!
And thank you Katya for these delicious description sections week after week. Please write a book about nothing topics. I would buy it!
24:20 so interesting that trixie thinks the scene of Barbie calling the old woman beautiful means nothing, reminds me that t&k are in fact men at the end of the day 💀
Barbie made me cry. It was an unexpected pleasure.
its crazy how yall didnt get the point of barbie at all 😭 its for the girl fr
Trixie Mattel, "I'm sorry. I'll stop trying to sell you things." 😂😂😂😂 Never going to believe that one! ❤❤
Capitalist Barbie
Katya: “there’s no good gymnastics movies”
me: “STICK IT!!!”
Katya: “if you say “stick it” i’ll kill you”
me: 😳
Samesies.
Don't take it that hard - Katya's a bit of a hipster 😆
LITERALLY
Has she never seen Nadia? The Nadia Comaneci story.
katya's reaction to trixie singing at 31:57 lmaooo
Lol the woman on the bench is everything because she is human and apparently there are no old people in perfect Barbieland and the “flawed” realness is what Barbie was looking for
Buffy is the best show ever, I love that Trixie still mentions it ❤ we need smg on the pod
Best show EVER - still my all time favorite
I think Katya would have ATE as weird barbie lol
the sharon needles mention was a jumpscare
38:13 is me every time they say “bye”. pod always feels like 5 minutes 🥲
the gripe about there being no good gymnastics movies is so niche but spoke to my soul so deeply i’m glad someone has finally spoke out about this injustice
I think the allegory of growing up/coming of age and the themes of Barbie do pretty well to serve the film and even if the pacing isn’t for everyone, the level of theatricality that the film was able to capture does a great job at suspending my disbelief. It feels almost like a storybook for children, y’know? It does what it needs to do as a film, and it’s a really fun experience overall! Have a wonderful day, Trixie, Katya, and the amazing team behind the scenes! ❤
Katya's entirely sincere ad reading for Squarespace is the funniest thing she's ever done.
I don’t think I’ve ever disagreed with them more. The thing a lot of gays aren’t realizing or are forgetting is the Barbie movie - in spite of the camp and pink and however twinks acted on twitter - is 100% for women. Not everything has to be about everyone at all times. Watching it in a theater full of women i noticed that most of if not all the humor was geared toward issues women have for men. The same way women are guests at a drag show, gays are guests at this movie.
Agreed. I watched it in an audience with plenty of men (boyfriends mostly) but I only heard women laugh, and laugh a lot. Men are so used to every single thing being catered specifically for them that they’re even confused when the “barbie movie” isn’t for them
Yeah of course but at the same time woman at drag show are allowed to participate and voice opinions? They said at the end they thought it was a great movie, so it's not even total hating
I would say it is about women but is for everyone, precisely because men (all men) should go with a woman and then shut up and listen to her talk about it. Then learn and try to understand.
I am surprised they didn't get the gender power dynamics of the film. It flew over their head and they're usually good at capturing it. In this episode, Trixie and Katya are not gay, they're just men who sleep with men.
@@unitedeuropean2159 you’re missing the point re: straight women at drag shows - they are guests. Nothing there is about them. They can have opinions about drag but no one really cares. Trixie and Katya joke about straight women at drag shows often. Conversely, this was a movie primarily for women who grew up playing with Barbies and date men. Just bc gays got excited about it doesn’t mean it’s catered to them bc it wasn’t. These two can have their opinions, I’m not saying it’s wrong I’m saying I think that they missed the mark a bit and I was surprised.
the ken musical sequence was lowkey my favorite part...
It was high key my favorite
Not me saying "Stick It" out loud after the gymnastic movie conversation and then Katya immediately stating "if you say Stick It I'll kill you"
Shockingly, the Barbie movie flew completely over these two MEN'S heads
I genuinely would love a podcast where Katya/Trixie review movies. It’s my favorite part of TBATB 🤷🏻♂️
AGREED
Yesss! Hearing and watching people’s reactions to film is my favourite thing on UA-cam ❤
Barbie always knew she was celebrated but deep down she didn't know why. She has that spark of humanity that knew there was something more. She had already lived a long life but knew something wasn't right. She never was ever allowed to be human. She always had to be perfect no matter the role. Time and the soul have a way of catching up. She needed to live a real life to be complete. This movie just looked absurd to me at first. Then it got me by the heart strings.
I knew this was Katya's place as soon as I saw the DUNE books.
Trixie is CORRECT about the simulation breaking down - recently I could not get the "what am I gonna do with a gun rack" scene from Waynes World out of my head. It felt so random, I haven't watched that movie in years. Two days later, the girls are talking about it on the pod.
I feel like it's some kind of reloading process of the simulation cause this type of thing happens to me every few years or months and it can either happen once or last like a long ass time to the point where i think i'm losing it/im psychic. I wonder how that could be explained, lol!
the energy of the begining of this episode was surreal and I don't think I was ready for it
At 24:11 The fact Trixie does not know the meaning behind the scene is preposterous.
I'm just gonna say... I love Trixie and Katya, truly. And also I really love Barbie and tbe impact is going to have in filmmaking and scripwritting, so... that's that.
I just love your banter. It always makes me smile. Thank you!
The twin ultimate tag team energy was at is peak for them todaaaay!!! LOVE THAT ENERGYYYY!!!! energyyyy xD
Someone needs to do a compilation of when they both say something in sync 😂
I broke down crying right away with the bus stop scene. Something soo simple and yet so powerful
*LMAO **38:13** Katya didn't want to end the podcast yet how adorable.*
She does that at the end of unhhh and this pod quite a few times 😊
Gargamel and Azrael got a glow up 🤩
Katya you’re radiant in my heart.
You both look so happy and glowing m ❤ hope you both are well
Trixie has toned up so much. Looking amazing 🥹
I literally don't understand their commentary on Barbie. That movie was near perfection and the parts they hated the most were actually the best parts. Like.... do they think those opinions are serving because they're different?
trixie loves barbie in a different way tho, if I went to theaters to see monster high girlies wanting to stop being monsters I would be devastated lol
Why do their opinions have to serve anything? They simply express them and nothing more.
@@isas.5667 opinions can be wrong. Kind of like yours! 😁
@@evand2 while that’s true your comment felt like you were making them out to be conceited 🙆♂️ your tone just seems very pointed
it's seeing the movie through the lens of of being gay men. Gay men aren't women, even if they dress like them. Not every movie has to be for everybody or reflect everyone's lived experience. It's a shame they can't put themselves in others shoes, even if they are birkenstocks, but I suspect the problem of actively criticising Barbie and what she represents (or doesn't represent) might be harder for someone that based their entire alter ego on old school Barbie.
the balds are looking especially cute today ♡
I have heard the argument that it’s too feminism 101 or that it’s for men to learn it for the first time but I saw someone explain it in a way that made total sense: it’s not because the film is trying to help any of us about feminism for the first time but because Barbie herself is learning about misogyny and feminism for the first time in her life and for a lot of the women watching it reminds us of where we were in our lives when we first had to learn about those things
The fact that they think the Kens bringing patriarchy to Barbieland wasn't high stakes enough? Barbie appreciating and complementing an old woman's beauty was pointless? Ooff they're really not the biological women I thought they were 😂
THE PERFECT GYMNASTICS MOVIE IS STICK IT!!
love the new photos in the background
The beginning of this was amazing
The backpack Trixie has in the very beginning- with Lisa Simpson faces all over it- im obsessed
This was a great episode- you were on fire!!