The Warm Audio WA-67 vs Neumann U-67 REVIEW & SHOOTOUT
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- Опубліковано 17 гру 2020
- This is a review of the new Warm Audio WA-67 Tube condenser microphone.
It also features an A-B Test with a Vintage Neumann U67.
You can buy the mic at Sweetwater
sweetwater.sjv.io/rQybZR
The specs of the WA-67 are:
* Large Diaphragm Studio Condenser microphone
* Faithful re-creation of the classic '67-style pentode tube circuit
* EF86 Pentode tube for creamy smooth clarity and brilliance
* Custom large-core Swedish Lundahl transformer
* Custom All Brass large K67-style vintage capsule re-creation
* Gold Sputtered Mylar diaphragm, 6 microns thick
* High bandwidth polystyrene capacitors
* Boutique capacitors from Wima and Solen
* Nickel-plated brass microphone body and head basket for ultimate acoustic performance
* Premium Swiss Gotham 7-pin tube cable
* Polar Patterns: Cardioid, Omni, Figure-of-Eight
* Switchable Hi-pass filter
* Switchable -10 db pad
* Frequency response: 20 Hz - 20 kHz
* Rated impedance: 200 ohms
* Rated load impedance: 1 kilohms
* Equivalent Noise Level (A-Weighted): 17 dBA
* Maximum SPL for THD 0.5%: 138 dB
* Signal to noise ratio (A-Weighted): 78 dB
* Microphone includes: wood box, shock mount, hard mount, power supply, 7-pin mic cable
Many thanks to Keymusic Belgium for the Mic and the Martin guitar!
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Love you respect of the classic 67 sound and its heritage and your honesty compairing the WA 67 with zero bias
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@@MasterclaesVideos thanks so much for this honest review! it makes a difference when we hear a review from someone like you who has a lot of vintage analog gear and experience
please also compare PELUSO mic LAB 22 47 VACUUM TUBE CONDENSER MICROPHONE and Peluso P 12 and Telefunken TF 47 (all under 2k and supposedly great emulations, which look like the real vintage mics and also reviews say offer great value)
Thank you Peter for this review and for being up front! We all appreciate that!
This is a really great comparison and I truly appreciate your skill and honesty. Vielen Dank!
Wow thanks for this! I had a chance to use a vintage U67 on one of my recordings a few years back and have been longing for that sound ever since, good to know with a little savings it could be attainable again for me!
Thank you for an awesome piece of work with these mics
Really appreciate your passion , your attention to detail and honest opinion Peter ... Great !!! All the Best !!!
Thank you this comparison of the two mics. I'm researching some of Warm Audio's products and this was extremely helpful. Liked & subscribed.
Thank you very much!
Thank you very much Peter, maybe the most fair and important review of both mics.
Amazing Video. Thanks Peter. Want to get my hands on one of those babies sometime in future.
Wonderful review. Thank you sooooo much for this work.
Really, really nice compare. Thanks for taking the time!
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I auditioned a WA67 at NAMM this year and was blown away by how great it sounded on my voice. I was wondering how it compared to the original and this video just made me go ahead and pull the trigger on the WA67. This is all the confirmation I needed. Thank you!
Now there's a new mic on the block. It's a UT87 from a company called United Technologies. Best mic on the market right now for 700 bucks. And it gives you two different versions of the 87 in one mic. Go look them up. I can't wait to buy one.
Hi, thanks for the comment! 🙏🙏🙏
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Wow! You've got some great racks of gear! Thanks for an honest and illuminating comparison.
Thank you! If you want to have a closer look at the gear, please have a look at the rig rundown video’s as well!
Thank you so much for this honest review! I just made up my mind to get the WA-67 definitely after watching your video. Thank you!
Thank you for the comment!
Great Video! Great Job! and love all the gear in your studio! I could live in there for years. I own several Neumann mics but having a pair of the u67s is way out of my budget. Thanks for sharing.
It all boils down to what you hear. I have been looking at the Warm for a few months and your comparison is the best I've run across so far. Thanks for the work.
Thanks for the appreciation!
I love the end ;) I understant ! Brilliant ! Thank you
I love the ending bit - where you're like "I wish I could say my nuemanns sound better but... they don't" ... really cool about the honesty. I think there is something going on a little different in the Nuemanns in the really high end. Seems to do that thing a little differently. But it's reallyyy hard to reproduce again and again in a demonstration. Likely has to do with axis and like you said - you can't really hear a difference. Pretty damn amazing. Great job.
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I was waiting for ALF to pop in any moment!🤣🙏🏻
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Lmao
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Well done!!
Awesome reviews. Really enjoy your honesty and humor.
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Thank you very much for your clear test 🎶✨
Great review. Thanks for this
Nicely Done, Peter!
I agree with Greg T, below.
As I'm looking for a few mics for a start-up home studio, the Warm Audio WA-67 and WA-87 were mentioned (along with the Shure SMB7). Thanks for a well presented shootout.
Great video! Thank you for taking the time to do this. I also largely agree with your conclusions.
Thank you! Which one would you buy if money was not the issue?
@@MasterclaesVideos oh, the original 67. I’m a vintage gear guy, so that mojo and history mean a lot to me. Plus it’ll appreciate with time as an investment.
wonderful studio and very very useful review! Thank you!
Nice review, very helpful!
Beautiful review, answers a lot of questions. cheers from down under
Thank you a lot for your test !
Thanks for the comment! I hope it is useful for you!
Thanks so much for this! I'd love to hear the high-resolution files.
nice work Peter
Thank you for such an honest review, cheers!
Great work ! Thanks for the comparison
You’re welcome! Did you see my other video’s too?
Fantastic review and very nice studio ! Hope you can also have a look at the WA87-R2 for review comparing it to U87.
Thanks Peter. Great video. I’m thinking to buy a tube mic and thanks to your vid I will considere this warm audio.
Thanks for the review!
Great honest vid! Thanks so much man!
That guitar sounds so so good! I would really like to listen to the recorded files in my daw not only over youtube!
Your absolutely wonderful and in-depth review of the WA-67 was so helpful that I ordered one practically before the video was finished! I've read so many reviews of their mics and it's never easy to know who you can trust or who's being paid to write a glowing review. But your review felt so true and real, especially after doing a bit of research into who you are, your vast mic collection (I'm trying not to drool on my computer as I write this thinking of the mics you own), your knowledge of recording/gear history, and the straightforward approach you have in telling it like it is all had a great impact on me. I also have a lot of mics (it's an addiction!), some very nice gear, and a beautiful studio, but nothing quite like what you have. So it's really good to know that someone out there who knows what they're talking about is laying out some much needed truths about all the gear I care most about, whether expensive or affordable. So I really just wanted to say thanks! "Cheers!" and Happy New Year! and keep up the great work...
Hi Harry, thank you for your unbelieveable heart warming comment! I have shared it with the world because it went straight to my heart… Thank you for your support, it means a lot to me! Yes I am honest, and indeed I dont get payd by anybody, so my reviews are like I feel about a product. This message is such a boost for me since my live mixing business agenda was scrapped untill march… so i have time to make some more video’s. PS I had to give back the WA67 to the warm audio distributor, so there was no time to swap tubes. My vintage mics all have the original tubes
@@MasterclaesVideos Hello again Peter. I might say "too bad" that you had to give back the WA-67 but since you have just about the best mic collection I've ever seen that I'm pretty sure you'll be able to handle it... A couple of quick questions: In your opinion is it worth it to change the stock tube that comes with these mics (typically an Electro Harmonix) to an NOS vintage tube? 1-I usually do it but I'm just curious of your opinion... 2-I noticed a few Pultec EQ's in your rig (more drool...), any chance you might put one of those up against either the WA EQ or the Klark Teknik EQ that are modern copies of the Pultec? I've been leaning towards getting a pair of the KTs but would love to hear what you think of them as compared to the mighty, and quite expensive, original... As ever, Thanks my friend and keep up the wonderful work...
@@harrymatthews5819 I have not experimented with other tubes since I do not own any of the "clones" I reviewed. But I read a lot of comments below that people often change the tube with good result. (Please have a look below and maybe ask these guys what they used as tube). 2: I owned a pair of Warm's but I sold them when I got the Pultec's. It is in the planning to do a Pultec shootout video... I just need 48 hours a day :-)
Too bad you didn't wait, there's a new mic out now that's killing all of these mic clones out here. It's called a UT87 from a company called United Technologies. Go look it up. I can't wait to buy it!!! One Love
your reviews are very well done.
Thanks!
This is a great video .Thank you for making. Most people have a Lava lamp in the studio , you have a Squirrel lol very nice . Awesome channel I just subscribed
I've watched this video before and I like watching it again. Thx again
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@@MasterclaesVideos I have.
Great review. Thanks for sharing✌🏾
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Planning on doing a C800G comparison with their new mic? Fantastic video! Didn't think they'd be so close.
Wow, you have awesome gear there, congrats. The Warm Audio Mic looks very shiny, I love it. Thank you for the comparison 🙏
Thanks for the comment! What mics do you own?
@@MasterclaesVideos I have a Rode NT1 from 2006. Very nice mic.
Great honest review.
Goede vergelijking Peter! En top uitgelegd 😉
Merci!
Cool review!
Thanks!
Great review, honest and frank.
WOW!!!!....amazing...thanx peter..great vid..again
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Great review, sir 🔥🔥🔥
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@@MasterclaesVideos yes sir
Great channel, please continue with mic, HW and plugins comparison
will do!
Great demo! I was also disappointed by the shiny finish on the wa47s, not "pro" looking at all, IMO. Quite impressed by how close they sounded, much closer than I expected. The guts on the Neumann are just impressive. Thanks a million.
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Its the guts of the Neumann that make me wonder will the Warm Audio WA-67 sound like that on every one of them? Or did he get lucky and just got an amazing version. That's the thing about build quality sometimes. Other than that the WA-67 is absolutely amazing.
The Warm sounds more transparent to my ear but the 67 sounds thicker. Great video!
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This was very useful to me! From your demos, the Neumann to me sounds more detailed and open on the upper mids and high end, but hey. That's what a smidge of eq is good for. It helped me feel good about spending more money and getting the WA67. Absolutely love it on my voice, which is baritone and can be lacking in upper mid detail when my technique isn't getting the sound properly out of my face. Thanks for all this!
Hi Jeff, thank you for the comment. It’s nice to read you are happy with your WA. What preamp are you using?
@@MasterclaesVideos a Warm Audio 273. They've sucked me in!
@@MrSwirly69 I have one too, I'm going to compare it to my pair of vintage 1073's.
@@MasterclaesVideos I'll look forward to that out of curiosity. I've really liked it for what I've used it for, vocals, condensers on electric guitar, paired with a 57 through the WA412. Like I said, they got me. I worked with a 3124 on drums the week before I got the 412, and while it was an apples vs oranges comparison, I've loved the similar punch and depth the 412 gives to direct bass and electrics. Gotta put some drums through it. I don't think I'll be let down.
Great and informative video thanks for sharing! Quick question if you don’t mind. I am a flamenco guitar player, and I’m thinking buying either the WA-47 or WA-67. What would you think would work better on a Flamenco/Classical guitar?
Thanks again for the video!
Thank y ou much for doing this!
Good stuff sir keep at it
That was an awesome video, Peter! Thank you very much for your great content! Do you maybe also own a Neumann TLM67 to compare it directly to the WA? Maybe also in direct comparison to the U67? Do you have general thoughts about the TLM67 or have you never worked with it?
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Great review. Thank you! PLEASE PLEASE do a shootout with the WA-87 R2 against the vintage Neumann 87. The recent 'Sound on Sound' Magazine review stated that it is a very close match, and was even preferred on a female vocal recording....
Would love to hear the 96k files! Thanks for the comparison!
Noted!
Well done ! Best Regards from Germany, Roger
Vielen dank!
Warm Audio heeft een pareltje voor een budgetprijs op de markt gebracht. Natuurlijk heeft een vintage Neumann meer karakter maar een Mercedes Gullwing heeft ook meer karakter dan een huidige GT. Zo goed als geen verschillen te horen, een prima tube en point to point construction. Top! Peter ik ben overtuigd van WA-67 en leuke review :-) Thanks
Merci voor de fijne commentaar!
my anxiety when you put that USM69 on the edge😬😬😬 but then you fixed it😮💨. great video👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Thanks! Which one is your favorite?
thanks for this video! For a U67 clone I use the Slate VMS mic with the software, and it works remarkably well! Might have to purchase this one too, to compare.
Have you tried the Townsend L22?
@@MasterclaesVideos I have not personally tried it no. will do some research and see what to add to my cabinet next. thanks for a great channel!
Love your work, exactly what lunatics need !
Lol! Indeed it takes one to make these 😅 which is your favourite?
Wow, I actually prefer the Warm Audio sound. I'd say the difference between the mics is no bigger than the difference between two U67's. Fantastic job by Warm Audio bringing us such an affordable version of this mic. Will have to get one ASAP. Thanks for the video!
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I agree.
Disagree
fair enough! good job, i put headphones on and it was surprisingly close, i still hear a decent warmer mid with Neuman, but like you say, and with a touch of mixing, the price alone explains... chow wm
The Warm was more hollow sounding, especially when speaking from the back. From the front it had a slight hollow resonance in the 800hz-1200hz region. I also hear more sensitivity and room ambience with the Warm. In addition, the Warm is brighter sounding.
Would work for modern music though
Thank You
Very interesting comparison.
I also had expensive Neumann Tlm 170. It Has 30 years Old
But in the 90s there was no choice.
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I own a studio with a good mic locker and I was going to say it basically sounds the same. It's close enough to say it's within the variables of two vintage mics next to each other. WA makes solid gear at great prices.
Two great condenser microphones phones are U87ai and TLM 103.
@@HarvinderSingh-yy8th Way more than just that
Technology is just too good nowadays to have to or even want to spend 3,500 bucks on a mic when you don't have to. I'll stick with companies like Warm and others that offer quality like them.
agreed! :-) marginally brighter I thought also, nice comparison Video :-)
It's amazing how similar they actually are. Small nuances, but the Warm is remarkable for the price difference!
I agree they sound exactly the same. The only thing I would worry about is do every single Warm Audio WA-67 sound like that? Sometimes with cheaper gear and less detail to craftsmanship you have to also think did he just get a better version? If not than these mics are just amazing.
Try the UT87 from a company called United Technologies. Best mic on the planet right now. It just came out.
Now he’s got a sub on his wrist! What a collection.
It’s Bandrew!!!
One thing that would have been nice to test is how much resonance on a vocal they produce. Cheaper mic's tend to have annoying spikes in the 4k region when you get a strong vocalist.
PS-before I watched this I was leaning more toward buying a WA-251 but after watching your review on that mic it was immediately off the table. Also, as I already have an Advanced Audio CM12 which is of a similar ilk, I really started thinking of a getting a 67 style mic after binge-watching the "Get Back" documentary (over 4 times!) trying to see how Glyn Johns was setting up all the 67's for the Beatles in the Apple building's studio. So your review helped me make that decision pretty quickly. One question- any thoughts on changing out the new EF86 tube that comes with the WA-67 with an NOS Telefunken or Amperex Bugle Boy, as I have a couple of each? I guess all I can do is try it out and see. Do you do much tube swapping with all your mics?
Great video.
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@@MasterclaesVideos already did. You’d probably like my channel as well.
The Neumann had a audible hum on your first test. Also to be honest I liked the Warm better. Great video.
thank you for the video
Leuke review ! thnx.
Merci Jelle!
I like your fair criticism not just in this video but in the 251 as well. We all have hit and misses. Sounds like this was a hit though.
True!
Thank you for this video sir. Great comparison between the 2 microphones. WA is a great deal yes the NM is better but that that much better? Id use a WA anyday and be happy about it.
Lmao
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I love the way you say , my gigantic guitar playing skills. Lol .
Not long ago I bought Slate digital large diaphragm, it sounds quite nice .
It does what I need . It has 3 microphone emulation . Thx for sharing.
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The Neumann seemed to have a little more presence tonally, but The WA-67 would do just fine.
6 minutes in and Im sold on my next mic. I want to add this to my dream list of Neve 1073 and Cl1b vocal chain.
You mean the U67 or the WA? If it is the U67, I would go for a M269!
thank you for comparison! Also WA-87 Mk1 is very close to U87 Vintage.
Hi Peter,
wow .... I would not have thought.
But you are right, the 2 microphones can hardly be distinguished.
We also have 2 U67s. I'll test the clones with strings and other instruments. Am very excited.
Thank you for your very good work! Great!
I saw you have a new Compressor "Focusrite Red". Tell me about this candidate. Or make a comparison to the plugin from Focusrite. I think the plugin is also available under ProTool, I'm not sure ..
You so awesome and keeping goinn
Hey, Peter! Thanks so much for the review, and your other videos, too. Can I please have a copy of the files? Thanks so much!
Thank you!
Nice review! Objective and sincere in my opinion. You've taken away some doubts about the quality of this Warm Audio microphone and therefore I think I'll definitely buy it. If I can afford: would you also do a review on the microphone, again by Warm Audio, model WA-87 R2? Thanks and keep it up!
Both sound great, but the Neumann's U67 have a natural compression and a very straighforward midrange sound. Warm's sound a little blurry on the low mids, but we can deal with it moving the mic from the source. Good review!
yes that feeling of compression and lip smack is the gold dust you only get from certain mics.
Yeah sure…whatever makes you feel good. Your clear bias and well, snobbery shows through. Just can’t admit that Warm nailed your precious Neumann..same thing when American muscle car owners get dusted by a Honda or Toyota…
The Neumann has that special top end compression sound, specific to their microphones. I do think that the Warm was close, but sounded more "loose". Thanks for posting, this was interesting and revealing!
...and then he casually says ”the stereo version of the u67” like it’s just the most natural thing in the world to have one of those lying around. Oh, and good, solid review! Thanks.
Well it’s actually the stereo version of a 269 (I cut out that part i guess) 😅. If you subscribe to my channel I will show you a bit more of some really rare gems in my Masterclaes Private Collection! Thanks for the positive comment!!
Hehe, yeah, it's pretty insane! To be fair though, he probably - like most people who has a lot of those things - bought them back when no one wanted them and you could get m49's and u67's etc for 50 dollars each. Oh how I wished I was an adult in the mid to late 80's and early 90's and knew what I know about microphones today...
@@michaelcaplin8969 put two zero’s behind that price and that’s more realistic... 😅
@@MasterclaesVideos Hehe, so I guess you didn't buy them back then. NRK (national radio and television here in Norway) was giving away their stocks of Neumann m49 microphones to whoever wanted them because no one wanted those crummy old tube mics. They couldn't get rid of them, so had to keep them. Decades later, that paid off! However, it is infuriating that the Gefell m582 pair I bought for 3500 dollars went for 3 dollars a piece when I was a kid.
@@michaelcaplin8969 i grew up in a music store that still exists for more than 70 years... can you imagine the amount of instruments and gear I’ve seen no one wanted anymore? 🤯 If i had only known...
There's always some undefined low frequency rumble in the Warm Audio Signal, that's the first thing I noticed (besides the lower presence tuning).
Yes Johhannes, you are right! The U67 is much tighter in the bottom end!
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@@MasterclaesVideos I was just going to comment the same thing but since Johannes B. already did, I'll just say I agree with him. Nice comparison BTW. I subscribed and hit the bell!
@@joemanzella7817 thanks a lot! Much appreciated!! 🙏🙏🙏
@@MasterclaesVideos how would you compare the wa47 to the sm7b
@@EM-km8em Two different beasts, but you can hardly ever go wrong with an SM7B...
Wow! Maybe not the same, but I definitely wouldn't knock the warm. It still sounds great!
Nous arrivons à un point que je ne croie plus que l’équipements fait une différence sur l’ensemble du projet.
Nous devrions peut-être retourner à la source soit à la composition, arrangement et interprétation.
Le Beatles avait peut-être tous ces microphones vintages cependant ils possédaient que des magnétophone 4 pistes…. Ils se devaient jouer les bonnes partitions et arrangement.
Bravo pour ce banc d’essai et la justesse que vous l’avez fait.
Merci pour votre commentaire ! Les micros sont juste des outils. Le métier se fait en jouent et en enregistrement!
Quite a nice comparison video. I must admit, I am sorry I didn't buy back in the early 1990s a Neumann U87 when it was around $2000 ($US)...Now they are $3600 US...So hence looking for an alternative mic.
BTW: I don;t like the way the WARM looks also, but I guess I could possibly get over that if it sound's great. The jury is still out for me right now, but thanks for spending time to do this video....All the best from the US (near NYC)
Phil
You could still spend your money on a Neumann... they offer great budget alternatives like the TLM series
@@MasterclaesVideos Yes for sure. Agreed. Thanks.
Phil
Hello! Thanks for the review! I would appreciate to receive your tracks for comparison!
I wonder have you spent more time with the wa67 , Im thinking about getting one. I know sometimes it takes more then a couple of days for our opinions to change on things as audio guys. Anyways great comparison and thank you.
Very, very close. Nice review.
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