I'm from Alaska which also has a sovereignty movement. I attended UH Manoa (and law school at UC Hastings). But those seeking sovereignty ignore the fact that the Hawaiian monarchy they want to restore was itself created by invaders. It's convenient to call Kamehameha's invasion "unifying the islands". But invaders are invaders whatever their race. If you asked the widows and children of the soldiers that died at the Pali Lookout how they felt, I doubt if "unified" is the word they would use.
I am white but I hate when people assume I'm a Haole, I love the Hawaiian culture more than the american, they did steal Hawaii from the Hawaiians, Long Live Queen Lili'uokalani!
are u serious... the kapu system was abolished by Kamehameha the second ....and Hawaii was a very prosperous industrial nation that was rapidly growing prior to the overthrow.... they supplied sugar to the world and were very wealthy from that these things were achieved without the united states being involved
the difference between Hawaii and Haiti is huge...no matter who controls Hawaii there will allways be people from around the world who want to be in Hawaii....no matter the cost
you have spoken with a true pride and honor, I hand my hat to you sir. me as a Puerto Rican, I oppose statehood for Puerto Rico that some want it or no in a twist.
Look Hawaii and America have bad history with each other that's a fact and the terrible parts of Hawaii history what the US has done to Hawaii I agree on that that was wrong on the US part but this is 2021 and countries that used to be countries that are now states can no longer be countries again because they are now States and that goes for the same thing with States as well that want to be countries but they never can be countries and also I watched this video and I understand what type of message they were trying to send but they were doing it in the wrong way
what exactly do you mean by multi-ethnic nationality from the beginning? Are you saying that the Hawaiians was never pure blood Hawaiians? That we have multi nationalities running through our vanes since the first Hawaiians stepped on these islands .? Because that is the beginning of the Hawaii. JUst wondering what exactly do you mean
the term Hawaiian comes from the nation that was founded by Kamehameha the great....Kamehameha's two most important advisors were two ha'ole men John young and Isaac davis their were many foreigners in the islands prior to unification and ha'ole people fought for and against kamehameha
No respect for hawaiian vets that fought side by side with others to allow us the freedom we have tday. My grandfather and myself were very understanding of the rally, but when they defiled the flag and burned that star, that was uncalled for. You dont think we know hawaii was takin illegally? We do but when we travel the world (hawaiian vets) and we see the outside. People out there are getting slaughtered, they have far worst living conditions, treated more cruely. America has their black mark through out history, but I reckon we are still blessed to be american. Think about it! We are entitled to education and other things that can help us as a people! For heaven sake, we have the right to defend ourselves with modern firearms and you dont need to be military to own one or use it legally. I dont hear of many invaders that allow their occupants to bear arms. That, is an American freedom for you, own one because your American. Good men even before hawaiians entered the ranks wanted that for people in their country, they were men who werent near perfect and the mentioned that in their personal memos, some kept slaves some murdered native americans plus our own. But fact still remains, as hawaiians ur Americans to. You have so many rights entitled to you, use them to your advantage, education being first and foremost!
No respect? How do you know that they do not respect those that fought in the wars? First, Hawaiʻi is not now or has ever been part of the U.S., but under an illegal occupation. second, it is a violation of international law that they served in the military. (American Journal of International Law, vol. 14, p. 114 (1920)): - Compulsory enlistment of soldiers among the inhabitants of occupied territory: The occupying power must not compel members of the population to serve in its armed forces. Doing so constitutes a grave breach of the Geneva Conventions. Any pressure or propaganda aimed at securing enlistment is also prohibited. The ban applies to participation in military operations and even mere recruitment into the forces, whether armed, paramilitary or auxiliary. For example, it is prohibited to use members of the population to fight the resistance in an occupied country. I agree that it was uncalled for when they defiled the flag. "we are still blessed to be american" - We are not American, we are Hawaiian Subjects. Under Hawaiian law, nationality can be acquired four ways: 1) Born within Hawaiian territory-jus soli, also called native-born or natural-born; 2) Born outside of Hawaiian territory from parents with Hawaiian nationality-jus sanguinis; 3) Naturalize. The Minister of the Interior, with the approval of the Monarch, shall have the power in person upon the application of any alien foreigner who shall have resided within the Kingdom five years or more, stating his intention to become a permanent resident of the Kingdom, to administer the oath of allegiance to such foreigner, if satisfied that it will be for the good of the Kingdom. (§429, Article VIII, Hawaiian Civil Code); 4) Denizen. The Monarch can confer upon any alien resident abroad, or temporarily resident in this Kingdom, letters patent of denization, conferring upon such alien, without abjuration of allegiance, all the rights, privileges and immunities of a native. The letters patent shall render the denizen in all respects accountable to the laws of the Hawaiian Kingdom, and impose upon him the like fealty to the King, as if he had been naturalized. (§433, Article VIII, Hawaiian Civil Code). Once a State is occupied, international law preserves the status quo of the occupied State as it was before the occupation began. To preserve the nationality of the occupied State from being manipulated by the occupying State to its advantage, international law only allows individuals born within the territory of the occupied State to acquire the nationality of their parents. To preserve the status quo, Article 49 of the 1949 Fourth Geneva Convention mandates that the “Occupying Power shall not…transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.” To do so is a war crime. "We are entitled to education and other things that can help us as a people!" - There was already education in Hawaiʻi before the overthrow. As a matter of fact, Hawaiʻi was one of if not the most literate nation in the world. "I dont hear of many invaders that allow their occupants to bear arms." - It is called Americanization, indoctrination, and inculcation. "That, is an American freedom for you, own one because your American." - You are trying to justify what the U.S. did. You can justify this occupation as much as you want, but it does not excuse the illegality. Breaking international law is breaking international law regardless of its motives. "But fact still remains, as hawaiians ur Americans to. You have so many rights entitled to you, use them to your advantage, education being first and foremost!" - That is not a fact because if it was a fact, than that would be the truth, which it is not. We already had rights before the U.S. illegally occupied us.
88amona Citizen of the U.S.? or Hawaiian Subject? If you are saying that you are a U.S. citizen, than I won't argue, but that would just be denial. There are three modes of acquisition of territory: Discovery, Conquest and Treaty. - The doctrine of discovery permits a state to seize and declare territory that is not the territory of another sovereign. Such territory was terres nullius or territory--subject to the sovereignty of no state. Since sovereign states were civilized only if they were Christian, European Christian nations claimed to “discover” and claim sovereignty over the lands of non-Christian nations in the third world. Any land that was not inhabited by Christians was available to be "discovered", claimed, and exploited. - The United States has never claimed that it “conquered” the Hawaiian Islands. Conquest is in international law the acquisition of territory through force. The United States “annexation” of Hawai’i in 1898 did not result from the absolute destruction of the civil structure of the Hawaiian Government lands. The use or war or aggression is a violation of the United Nations charter. The United States has never claimed it acquired the Hawaiian Islands by “conquest” or debellatio. - Thus, the only basis by which the United States can claim acquisition of Hawai’i is by treaty. First, and foremost, the burden of proving sovereignty is always on the nation claiming sovereignty. It is the United States which must present proof of an act by which it acquired the Hawaiian Islands. Since the United States does not claim it acquired Hawai’i by discovery or conquest, it must show the existence of a treaty. A joint resolution is not a treaty, it is merely a law, an act of Congress. It has no power to acquire the territory of a foreign, sovereign state. As for the vote for statehood, more importantly who orchestrated the vote called the U.S. congress. The U.S. congress is limited to U.S. territory, meaning it does not matter who voted. And anything that was voted upon is still limited to U.S. territory A nation-state taken over by another nation-state is either occupied or annexed, but cannot be both simultaneously. In summary, without a treaty of cession, Hawaiʻi is not annexed to the United States. Without annexation, Hawaiʻi was never admitted to the United States. Without admission, Hawaiʻi cannot be called a state of the United States. What you have instead in Hawaiʻi is an occupant government masquerading as a state.
The people of our great 50th state of Hawaii, USA should thank GOD that you are a part of the greatest nation on earth! With Hawaii's isolation in the world and lack of major products Hawaii would be a third world country--or have already been annexed by Japan or China if not for the USA! The state of Hawaii gets most everything that you need to exist from your American family---because of the states isolation from the rest of the world. I'm sure that Hawaii and it's people would rather be proud Americans than part of Japan or China! My home state of North Carolina, USA is in the great American southland. If you remember any American history--from 1861--1865 my part of the USA---along with 10 other southern states tried to leave the union---causing the American Civil War! Well, needless to say we weren't successful in forming our new country--The Confederate States of America. Even though I'm a proud southerner---I am glad that the war ended up the way that it did. The people in our great state of Alaska sure are proud to have been annexed by the USA--rather than staying part of Russia or even being a part of Canada. GOD has blessed our great nation--the USA--with 50 beautiful, thriving, proud, blessed, and unique states and the District of Columbia! I am so sorry if I've sounded rude in any way it wasn't ment to sound that way--but we in the other 49 states and DC are so proud and lucky to have the great state of Hawaii, USA in our beloved American family of states! GOD BLESS! Chuc Presley-Clubb in Charlotte, North Carolina, USA
They can't get independence anyway because once you join the union you can't leave. Yes I know about the civil war. By the way it'll be cool if Puerto Rico, The US Virgin Islands, Guam, and Cuba became states. Expand the American dream to millions more.
Hawaiʻi is not now or has ever been part of the U.S., but under an illegal and prolonged occupation! Most people always say that, but that proves to me how ignorant people are of Hawaii’s legal history. Do you have any evidence to prove that other countries would try to take over Hawaii? And even if you did have any proof, it does not justify, nor does it legalize the American occupation of Hawaii. "With Hawaii's isolation in the world and lack of major products Hawaii would be a third world country" - Hawaiʻi was actually more advance than the U.S. such as being one of if not the most literate nations in the world. Also ʻIolani palace had telephones and electricity before the White House. "or have already been annexed by Japan or China if not for the USA!" - Hawaiʻi and Japan had close ties with each other. Japan wanted to intervene at the time of the overthrow; but was told to back off by the U.S. They stood by on alert to protect their citizens in the Kingdom. Hawaiʻi would not be leaving the Union because it was never part of the U.S. - A joint resolution is merely a law, an act of Congress. It has no power to acquire the territory of a foreign, sovereign state. As for the vote for statehood, more importantly who orchestrated the vote called the U.S. congress. The U.S. congress is limited to U.S. territory, meaning it does not matter who voted. And anything that was voted upon is still limited to U.S. territory. A nation-state taken over by another nation-state is either occupied or annexed, but cannot be both simultaneously. In summary, without a treaty of cession, Hawaiʻi is not annexed to the United States. Without annexation, Hawaiʻi was never admitted to the United States. Without admission, Hawaiʻi cannot be called a state of the United States.
+Jerameel dejesusdiaz: Hawaiʻi does not need to gain independence because it is still sovereign and independent, but under an illegal occupation. Also, it would not be leaving the Union.
What part did you not understand no treaty’s no anex that be the reason sincerely don’t support the fakeass state government system or your government hellooooooo did you get that or are you dence
their were no Hawaiians before Kamehameha the great he is the first Hawaiian our founding father of our nation...our ancestors were known as "kanaka maoli" prior to the unification of the islands...to say Hawaiians existed before Kamehameha is to deny the importance of kamehameha and why he is great.....
@isaywhatisayhateme Many Hawaiians did fight the movement to become part of the US. Please know your history before you make baseless claims. The Hawaiian Kingdom was only surrendered because Liliʻuokalani did not want any of her people to die.
I'm from Alaska which also has a sovereignty movement. I attended UH Manoa (and law school at UC Hastings). But those seeking sovereignty ignore the fact that the Hawaiian monarchy they want to restore was itself created by invaders. It's convenient to call Kamehameha's invasion "unifying the islands". But invaders are invaders whatever their race. If you asked the widows and children of the soldiers that died at the Pali Lookout how they felt, I doubt if "unified" is the word they would use.
Free Hawaii from my tax paying wallet. End US statehood, end US welfare.
I am white but I hate when people assume I'm a Haole, I love the Hawaiian culture more than the american, they did steal Hawaii from the Hawaiians, Long Live Queen Lili'uokalani!
are u serious... the kapu system was abolished by Kamehameha the second ....and Hawaii was a very prosperous industrial nation that was rapidly growing prior to the overthrow.... they supplied sugar to the world and were very wealthy from that these things were achieved without the united states being involved
This is the day I came to have second thoughts of Hawaii being part of the United States!
the difference between Hawaii and Haiti is huge...no matter who controls Hawaii there will allways be people from around the world who want to be in Hawaii....no matter the cost
@niev0000 what are you talking about McDonalds are everywhere? if America wasn't here we would still have McDonalds and other amenities
you have spoken with a true pride and honor, I hand my hat to you sir. me as a Puerto Rican, I oppose statehood for Puerto Rico that some want it or no in a twist.
True dat my braddaah we can only help ourselves and by doing that we help our culture and community.
and I know that this video was made in 2009 but this is just my own opinions just saying.
Look Hawaii and America have bad history with each other that's a fact and the terrible parts of Hawaii history what the US has done to Hawaii I agree on that that was wrong on the US part but this is 2021 and countries that used to be countries that are now states can no longer be countries again because they are now States and that goes for the same thing with States as well that want to be countries but they never can be countries and also I watched this video and I understand what type of message they were trying to send but they were doing it in the wrong way
That painting on 3:29 isn't Ali'i Mo'i Wahine Liliu'okalani, that painting is of Ali'i Mo'i Wahine Kapi'olani.
Love it!
Rise up hawaiians. Fight for are aina
Once you become a state you can't leave.
Not a state, never was.
Kanaka Maoli telling the truth Hawaiian brother
He does have a point once you become a state you can't become a country again and yes Hawaii is state and it still is state.
what exactly do you mean by multi-ethnic nationality from the beginning? Are you saying that the Hawaiians was never pure blood Hawaiians? That we have multi nationalities running through our vanes since the first Hawaiians stepped on these islands .? Because that is the beginning of the Hawaii. JUst wondering what exactly do you mean
the term Hawaiian comes from the nation that was founded by Kamehameha the great....Kamehameha's two most important advisors were two ha'ole men John young and Isaac davis their were many foreigners in the islands prior to unification and ha'ole people fought for and against kamehameha
No respect for hawaiian vets that fought side by side with others to allow us the freedom we have tday. My grandfather and myself were very understanding of the rally, but when they defiled the flag and burned that star, that was uncalled for. You dont think we know hawaii was takin illegally? We do but when we travel the world (hawaiian vets) and we see the outside. People out there are getting slaughtered, they have far worst living conditions, treated more cruely. America has their black mark through out history, but I reckon we are still blessed to be american. Think about it! We are entitled to education and other things that can help us as a people! For heaven sake, we have the right to defend ourselves with modern firearms and you dont need to be military to own one or use it legally. I dont hear of many invaders that allow their occupants to bear arms. That, is an American freedom for you, own one because your American. Good men even before hawaiians entered the ranks wanted that for people in their country, they were men who werent near perfect and the mentioned that in their personal memos, some kept slaves some murdered native americans plus our own. But fact still remains, as hawaiians ur Americans to. You have so many rights entitled to you, use them to your advantage, education being first and foremost!
88amona thank you
No respect? How do you know that they do not respect those that fought in the wars?
First, Hawaiʻi is not now or has ever been part of the U.S., but under an illegal occupation.
second, it is a violation of international law that they served in the military.
(American Journal of International Law, vol. 14, p. 114 (1920)):
- Compulsory enlistment of soldiers among the inhabitants of occupied territory: The occupying power must not compel members of the population to serve in its armed forces. Doing so constitutes a grave breach of the Geneva Conventions. Any pressure or propaganda aimed at securing enlistment is also prohibited. The ban applies to participation in military operations and even mere recruitment into the forces, whether armed, paramilitary or auxiliary. For example, it is prohibited to use members of the population to fight the resistance in an occupied country.
I agree that it was uncalled for when they defiled the flag.
"we are still blessed to be american" - We are not American, we are Hawaiian Subjects.
Under Hawaiian law, nationality can be acquired four ways:
1) Born within Hawaiian territory-jus soli, also called native-born or natural-born;
2) Born outside of Hawaiian territory from parents with Hawaiian nationality-jus sanguinis;
3) Naturalize. The Minister of the Interior, with the approval of the Monarch, shall have the power in person upon the application of any alien foreigner who shall have resided within the Kingdom five years or more, stating his intention to become a permanent resident of the Kingdom, to administer the oath of allegiance to such foreigner, if satisfied that it will be for the good of the Kingdom. (§429, Article VIII, Hawaiian Civil Code);
4) Denizen. The Monarch can confer upon any alien resident abroad, or temporarily resident in this Kingdom, letters patent of denization, conferring upon such alien, without abjuration of allegiance, all the rights, privileges and immunities of a native. The letters patent shall render the denizen in all respects accountable to the laws of the Hawaiian Kingdom, and impose upon him the like fealty to the King, as if he had been naturalized. (§433, Article VIII, Hawaiian Civil Code).
Once a State is occupied, international law preserves the status quo of the occupied State as it was before the occupation began. To preserve the nationality of the occupied State from being manipulated by the occupying State to its advantage, international law only allows individuals born within the territory of the occupied State to acquire the nationality of their parents. To preserve the status quo, Article 49 of the 1949 Fourth Geneva Convention mandates that the “Occupying Power shall not…transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.” To do so is a war crime.
"We are entitled to education and other things that can help us as a people!" - There was already education in Hawaiʻi before the overthrow. As a matter of fact, Hawaiʻi was one of if not the most literate nation in the world.
"I dont hear of many invaders that allow their occupants to bear arms." - It is called Americanization, indoctrination, and inculcation.
"That, is an American freedom for you, own one because your American." - You are trying to justify what the U.S. did. You can justify this occupation as much as you want, but it does not excuse the illegality. Breaking international law is breaking international law regardless of its motives.
"But fact still remains, as hawaiians ur Americans to. You have so many rights entitled to you, use them to your advantage, education being first and foremost!" - That is not a fact because if it was a fact, than that would be the truth, which it is not. We already had rights before the U.S. illegally occupied us.
I respect your stance as a subject. I'm fine being a citizen.
88amona Citizen of the U.S.? or Hawaiian Subject? If you are saying that you are a U.S. citizen, than I won't argue, but that would just be denial.
There are three modes of acquisition of territory: Discovery, Conquest and Treaty.
- The doctrine of discovery permits a state to seize and declare territory that is not the territory of another sovereign. Such territory was terres nullius or territory--subject to the sovereignty of no state. Since sovereign states were civilized only if they were Christian, European Christian nations claimed to “discover” and claim sovereignty over the lands of non-Christian nations in the third world. Any land that was not inhabited by Christians was available to be "discovered", claimed, and exploited.
- The United States has never claimed that it “conquered” the Hawaiian Islands. Conquest is in international law the acquisition of territory through force. The United States “annexation” of Hawai’i in 1898 did not result from the absolute destruction of the civil structure of the Hawaiian Government lands. The use or war or aggression is a violation of the United Nations charter. The United States has never claimed it acquired the Hawaiian Islands by “conquest” or debellatio.
- Thus, the only basis by which the United States can claim acquisition of Hawai’i is by treaty. First, and foremost, the burden of proving sovereignty is always on the nation claiming sovereignty. It is the United States which must present proof of an act by which it acquired the Hawaiian Islands. Since the United States does not claim it acquired Hawai’i by discovery or conquest, it must show the existence of a treaty.
A joint resolution is not a treaty, it is merely a law, an act of Congress. It has no power to acquire the territory of a foreign, sovereign state.
As for the vote for statehood, more importantly who orchestrated the vote called the U.S. congress. The U.S. congress is limited to U.S. territory, meaning it does not matter who voted. And anything that was voted upon is still limited to U.S. territory
A nation-state taken over by another nation-state is either occupied or annexed, but cannot be both simultaneously. In summary, without a treaty of cession, Hawaiʻi is not annexed to the United States. Without annexation, Hawaiʻi was never admitted to the United States. Without admission, Hawaiʻi cannot be called a state of the United States. What you have instead in Hawaiʻi is an occupant government masquerading as a state.
The people of our great 50th state of Hawaii, USA should thank GOD that you are a part of the greatest nation on earth! With Hawaii's isolation in the world and lack of major products Hawaii would be a third world country--or have already been annexed by Japan or China if not for the USA! The state of Hawaii gets most everything that you need to exist from your American family---because of the states isolation from the rest of the world. I'm sure that Hawaii and it's people would rather be proud Americans than part of Japan or China! My home state of North Carolina, USA is in the great American southland. If you remember any American history--from 1861--1865 my part of the USA---along with 10 other southern states tried to leave the union---causing the American Civil War! Well, needless to say we weren't successful in forming our new country--The Confederate States of America. Even though I'm a proud southerner---I am glad that the war ended up the way that it did. The people in our great state of Alaska sure are proud to have been annexed by the USA--rather than staying part of Russia or even being a part of Canada. GOD has blessed our great nation--the USA--with 50 beautiful, thriving, proud, blessed, and unique states and the District of Columbia! I am so sorry if I've sounded rude in any way it wasn't ment to sound that way--but we in the other 49 states and DC are so proud and lucky to have the great state of Hawaii, USA in our beloved American family of states! GOD BLESS! Chuc Presley-Clubb in Charlotte, North Carolina, USA
They can't get independence anyway because once you join the union you can't leave. Yes I know about the civil war. By the way it'll be cool if Puerto Rico, The US Virgin Islands, Guam, and Cuba became states. Expand the American dream to millions more.
Hawaiʻi is not now or has ever been part of the U.S., but under an illegal and prolonged occupation!
Most people always say that, but that proves to me how ignorant people are of Hawaii’s legal history.
Do you have any evidence to prove that other countries would try to take over Hawaii? And even if you did have any proof, it does not justify, nor does it legalize the American occupation of Hawaii.
"With Hawaii's isolation in the world and lack of major products Hawaii would be a third world country" - Hawaiʻi was actually more advance than the U.S. such as being one of if not the most literate nations in the world. Also ʻIolani palace had telephones and electricity before the White House.
"or have already been annexed by Japan or China if not for the USA!" - Hawaiʻi and Japan had close ties with each other. Japan wanted to intervene at the time of the overthrow; but was told to back off by the U.S. They stood by on alert to protect their citizens in the Kingdom.
Hawaiʻi would not be leaving the Union because it was never part of the U.S.
- A joint resolution is merely a law, an act of Congress. It has no power to acquire the territory of a foreign, sovereign state. As for the vote for statehood, more importantly who orchestrated the vote called the U.S. congress. The U.S. congress is limited to U.S. territory, meaning it does not matter who voted. And anything that was voted upon is still limited to U.S. territory.
A nation-state taken over by another nation-state is either occupied or annexed, but cannot be both simultaneously. In summary, without a treaty of cession, Hawaiʻi is not annexed to the United States. Without annexation, Hawaiʻi was never admitted to the United States. Without admission, Hawaiʻi cannot be called a state of the United States.
+Jerameel dejesusdiaz: Hawaiʻi does not need to gain independence because it is still sovereign and independent, but under an illegal occupation. Also, it would not be leaving the Union.
Kanaka Maoli it's a state get over it
sgguitarfan7 That is a claim. Where is the evidence?
lol silly hawaiians.
ayelogan lol silly Zionist
I support your people to be free, so as for my people in Puerto Rico.
EO ! Excellent .
Aren't they tired of this nonsense? Your queen gave up on you all. Deal with it! Dont be cry babies.
This video makes the rest of us locals look dumb.
lets face it, the US invaded Hawaii and anex them against their will. this was an example of manifest destiny in action
Hawaii is the only state that doesn't celebrate statehood!
What part did you not understand no treaty’s no anex that be the reason sincerely don’t support the fakeass state government system or your government hellooooooo did you get that or are you dence
their were no Hawaiians before Kamehameha the great he is the first Hawaiian our founding father of our nation...our ancestors were known as "kanaka maoli" prior to the unification of the islands...to say Hawaiians existed before Kamehameha is to deny the importance of kamehameha and why he is great.....
@isaywhatisayhateme Many Hawaiians did fight the movement to become part of the US. Please know your history before you make baseless claims. The Hawaiian Kingdom was only surrendered because Liliʻuokalani did not want any of her people to die.
Hawaiian is a nationality and from its beginning it has been a multi-ethnic nationality...what is an American suppose to look like?
@UniteHawaii Screaming stuff like "Oh, we hate being a state" or other stuff in hawaiian look up g20 riots pittsburg those riot police made good of em
@UniteHawaii I just wish HPD did was all the other states woulda did and bring out the riot police or national guard Military police officers+