Sandhills Station TO EFC New Stadium - How Long Does It Take? - And Look Potential Development Plots
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- I have taken a walk from Sandhills Station to the EFC Stadium at Bramley Moore Dock. How long is the walk?
I have also taken a look at some of the properties in and around the EFC Stadium that could be considered for development for bars, cafes, etc..
I hope you enjoy the video.
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Hi Nick
Brilliant video of all the property to buy. I wish you would have gone in the Ten streets social , we went in there last week. Brilliant venue for match days. Reminded me of the beer Keller. Big space huge tables. Big screen and a long bar. It’s a winner. Keep up the brilliant work. Tel
Morning Nick,
Brilliant video, I think you should be applauded on way you conduct your video's, yes it is difficult staying middle of the road, but BZ. it is a brilliant walk from Sandhills to Bramley Moor Dock and the way the stadium rises out of the docks, it's amazing, also the information you pack into your videos have always been informative and useful and again thanks again
Regards
Stephen
I can't believe it took me almost a week to find this video??!! Thanks for showing all of those potential pubs and cafes, etc. I wouldn't mind having one or being a partner in one but I have a feeling most of them are probably spoken for by now. Good luck to them. And made up that the owners of the Bramley Moore Pub held onto it for all these years through bad times.
Ten minutes from Sandhills Station to the stadium. That's worth knowing. So half the time of walking from the city centre. I'd guess the reason for the hotel planning permission being turned down is that the council has big plans for that area. Exciting times ahead, I reckon.
Enjoyed the video fella I’m a massive Liverpool fan but very impressed how the stadium is starting to look for Everton me and the wife are going to be up there for four nights end of September can’t wait love it up there I say up there as we are travelling all the way from Neath in south wales will defo be taking a look at at thier new stadium only from the outside may i add and of course going up to anfield which I do every time we visit be rude not to haha we love everything about the city and if i had my way we would move there anyway keep up the good work look forward to seeing more all the best
Nick, There are other planning applications in for those around the ground.Hotel, bierkeller and terrace bar.What you have to remember a large developer could enter the frame once any uncertainty is gone re ownership etc.
Hi Nick
The old building at 93 Regent Road that you stopped outside was The Sandon Lion. Been closed for many a year. Would love to see this reopened.
The old pub you stopped outside at 17 regent road used to be called The Farmers Arms. It later became a B&B with a poor reputation and that then closed down I believe. There used to be a pub next door to this at 19 Regent Road called The Palatine but it was demolished.
Other demolished pubs on your walk along Regent Road were The Atlantic (which used to be on the corner of Sandhills Lane & Regent Road), The Sandhills which I think was on the opposite corner, The Black Diamond at 69 and The Washington at 70 Regent Road.
The building you said was for rent and/or for sale at 65 Regent Road used to be another pub- The Waverley.
I think there may have been one on the empty site you said had a planning application for a new hotel, I think this was The American pub that burnt down. Next door and now empty was the infamous Regent Pub that was later called Bonkers Fun pub.
Regent Road, quite the pub crawl back in the dock days. Hopefully the new stadium will put some life back into it again.
Keep up the good work.
Enjoy watching your videos from my new home in New Zealand.
My cousin was born in the Sandon Lion in 68.
Interesting read that Paul, never knew there were so many pubs along Regent Road. Thanks 👍🏻
Some new perspectives I'd like to see are from Leeds St /Scotland Rd which should give some interesting vistas and show quite a bit of construction going on. Also from the knowledge quarter and Paddington Village taking in the full expanse of the city centre. Love your videos. Oh one last thing maybe it's time to change the music up!
Nick.. great walk & you can clearly see that BMD is going to regenerate the area 💙
If they'd kept the dockers umbrella..........A station dedicated for Bramley and the Titanic and any local developments would be massively expensive, but would make sense. The current hike from Kirkdale to Goodison is about 15 mins. We used to do it in the 80s but it would take longer. The Sportsman, The Tramway, Caradoc etc!!!!😂
Yeah, I'm from out of town and I used to get the train to Kirkdale and then to the ground stopping off for a pint or two in the Tramway. John Bailey was often in there back in the 80s.
The problem is that can a bar survive the 29 days a month when there are no fans?
Unlikely unless there's critical mass in the area (there isn't). Blackstone St Warehouse could probably open simply on a matchday and clean up if it can get an alcohol licence.
Brilliant video, did not know how long the walk from Sandhills was to Bramley Moore Dock, I do now. Lots of great opportunities for development along the whole route.
Brilliant video 👏 Mr Drone. I never realised how much potential there is for match days and fans to get a beer and a bite to eat. I also didn't know how close to the nearest train station is to the stadium. Thanks for the info. Best wishes, Graeme from Portsmouth. Play Up Pompey.
I’m thinking some of those properties could be utilised especially that big red brick warehouse building near your new ground. Could you imagine what a venue that would be for match days or cup games
Pretty sure Murphy’s Distillery is ran by blues… ToffeeTV have had a couple of Patreons nights in there
It certainly is, season ticket holder too
I have been there a couple of times with toffee tv great nights...wait for the next one ....@adamwooliscroft2314
i’ve walked to the ground from the station and the whole area is in need of regeneration. One thing I noticed at the ground was there wasn’t a lot of gaps in the boundary wall for entry and exit. 50+K people was going to be a bit of a squeeze through two medium size gaps. Now thankfully they have added more entrances
Another useful video Mr D. Thanks for doing it. I thought it was about 12 minutes, so that confirms it. On another note, I'm pretty sure the David Rollo building has a planning application for something. Is it a bar? I don't think I dreamt it. Anybody know for sure?
If I'm not mistaken the pub at number 17 was called The Farmers Arms.
Yes, you are correct.
Nick I agree with you it is difficult but when everything is up and running who nose
The old hot dog vans would have been there in force back in the day :)
Hi nick i really enjoyed your video very interesting it’s a shame these properties are lying empty if anyone who s got money could buy some of those empty buildings and do them up and like you said turn them into bars or cafeteria or just anything any way another great walk 🚶 but as always stay safe 💙⚽️
I don’t think they would be profitable when you consider it’s only for a few hours 19 times in 9 months of the year. They’d be competing with the bars and restaurants in the stadium and the food/drink outlets in the fan zone plaza too. If the Liverpool Waters development progresses, they may be more profitable.
@@DuncTheBlue1878 l totally agree. People get carried away with other people's money. The same with a ferry service. Great ides but the return on capital for 19 PL games, a few cup games and concerts just wouldn't be viable. What about the other 300 odd days?
Whilst I agree with you both to an extent about the amount of games, etc.. if you were to buy or invest in a property in the area and turn it in to a bar or something then you have to do something to make sure people want to come every weekend. Just like any other business really. The pressure is on to get the customers. Ok you have a helping hand with the stadium events for a portion of the calendar but the rest is on you to get people in. Business don’t come easy!
@@misterdroneuk Not enough residential properties in the vicinity at the moment though, but that could change with what Liverpool Waters intends to build
@@DuncTheBlue1878 good point mate but, as we have pointed out, it’s not far from the city and is accessible. Do something to make people go to the venue and they will go. In my opinion
The North docks area has needed 're development for years let's hope it happens now,COYB
Make no mistake, Around xmas time a lot of those plots will be snapped up. Average renovation time will be 6 months and the new stadium will be up and running.. Look into a small one mate and sell food,Burgers and chips as the food bars inside the stadium will be double the price of whatever you sell.. Good luck lar.
Whilst the ban on drone flying is in place, would it be possible to get a progress report/update from Laing O'Rourke? I'm just thinking if the restrictions were extended beyond Monday 12th, we'd be missing a hell of a lot and it'd be such a shame considering all the hard work you and the other guys have done to keep us informed throughout the build! UTFT! 💙👊
Great video on channel keep up the great video on channel thanks lee
Hi Nick,
Another great video as always, just a quick question, as the video gets to 29 minutes, there is a bus stop across the road from you, is that just a works bus stop, or does it run through the Day.
I do not mean for future match Day travelling fans, but if it is in use now, it could be handy for people to catch a bus from town and get off there, or if mr walkabout is on his future travels, could you point out any bus stops that might at least get us most of the way to Bramley Moore stadium and ideally what the bus numbers are along the route.
Brian
I have a feeling that Regent Road will be closed off from yhe Titanic to well past the Royal Crest.
All buses to Bootle and into the city will probably be located on Great Howard St.
A 10 minute walk if you run.... LOL.... Nice one, Nick..
10mins easy for anyone able bodied....he started from the wrong side of the road at Sandhills too.... admittedly it'll be parky in winter even with 10mins
"The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it" - George Orwell
Terry's timber got himself a Bentley with the cash.. True story lol
I was getting worried about Terry's Timber, what happened to him?
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Isn't the idea of the fans plazas on the East and West side a place to get food and drink?
Great video Nick
That is correct. But it only has a limited capacity of about 13k. There will still be 40k to water and feed and entertain.
Yeah you're right I've stayed there myself and it is a nice hotel but not cheap especially the beer prices 😮😊UTFT NIL SATIS NISI OPTIMUM
Nice vid Nick, lots of opportunities for pubs/bars etc but I suppose a lot of investors are working out if a place would be profitable (not only on matchdays). At present only the Bramley Moore pub and the Titanic hotel are open apart from some cafes. A lot will depend on future plans for the tobacco warehouse. I really hope the City council get behind this, The Ibis hotel would have been a nice start ,anyway keep the vids coming Mr walk .
10 Streets Social is a good spot
Big venue too
If the Liverpool Waters development progresses, more cafes and bars will probably emerge. I agree that setting up next year may not be profitable if they’re relying on match days only (also competing with fan zone plaza food outlets, along with those in the stadium).
@DuncTheBlue1878 Yep everyone thinks it's free money buying a place and relying on matchdays. If it was that easy Walton & Anfield would have Wall St investors all over it. 😂
I think its 12 mins last time I did it , which was quicker and down hill compared to kirkdale up to goodison.
The stadium itself should have everything and be a destination in itself. Alcohol food etc. Comparing Bramley Moore to Goodison Park or any other stadium is a big mistake. In the USA they have massive stadiums surrounded by nothing but massive parking lots. A few mobile food vans outside selling will make the most money, with low overheads.
Can you view Bramley Moor Dock from the Wirral,that would be interesting.
There is a property that used to be a Greek Restaurant/Deli on the corner of Galton Street (Next to Costco), that would be a good venue. I thought it'd be demolished by now, but perhaps someone has seen the light/potential!
@@MrIanmmackay yes mate I know the one. I often parked there to go to the Isle of Man ferry terminal
Frank`s Cafe. It was famous for 30 years with masses of famous visitors photos on the walls.
Anyone know why the hotel plans were scrapped? Seems like an ideal location. Only thing I can think of is that the council maybe have their own plans.
Heritage Police said no
@@DuncTheBlue1878English Heritage again eh. They must think it ruins the ambience of the ugly shit farm over the road. They made Everton change the design of the stadium too.
@@SP-1414 Historic England and the Heritage Officers at the council combining. English Heritage are a charity that do a lot of good work. Historic England is the government agency and a statutory consultee in the planning process. Telling EFC and Dan Meis to lower the height of the stadium is the requirement that I think was most unreasonable
Not sure that I agree that it's not worth developing that area. There is a lot of redevelopment ongoing south of the stadium (which Mr D highlighted in a prior video). I'd expect this to continue up to and beyond the stadium over the next couple of years. That may well instil confidence to developers for new housing/recreation/hospitality.
Is the regent maritime hotel still about on the docks? It's where I use to stay on matchdays
Isn't the idea of the new stadium to get in there early and drink at the bars in the stadium?
Uncover the enchantment of The Royal Crest Hotel, a meticulously refurbished public house nestled in the heart of the hustle and bustle of the Liverpool Dock Road, this area is an up and coming location. Boasting 17 modern rooms, our recent renovation has allowed us to create a versatile range of setups, catering to diverse guest preferences.
Ideally situated near the City centre, guests revel in close proximity to Liverpool and Everton football grounds, with Everton's new stadium visible from select vantage points within the hotel, across the road opposite the hotel. Embraced by an up-and-coming hub, nestled on Liverpool's hustle and bustle Dock Road location, the hotel offers on-street parking meticulously monitored by CCTV for enhanced security.
Book your rooms for next season before prices go crazy 😂
You can see up at the top by Goodison how big it is
So you didn't say you didn't have any footage, you said it's just not for ya channel, so I will take it you do have footage and it's not appropriate for ya channel which of course I agree 👍
Hey Nick
Great content
You said you’re looking for suggestions???
I fly over from Dublin for the matches as do many Irish toffees, you couldn’t see how long it takes to walk from the airport could you ???
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Ye no probs. Which airport mate? Heathrow?
@@misterdroneuk
A fine reposte
@@misterdroneuk 😆
Your flight takes less time.
Get the bus to Liverpool Parkway and then the train to Sandhills. Approx 40 minutes
@@markkirwin3883
Fastest flight I ever done 22 minutes
Took the 82 bus I think to town once by mistake, lost the will to live, could have gone to Dublin and back in same time, X500 now quickest to town and breakfast at Dale Street Kitchen which has been the highlight of the trips often
Nick, seeing as
You walked the longer route lol, should have gone down that estate next to station... Quicker lol
@@empyradio8035 I know mate but the walk has 2 purposes 😂👍🏻
Please can we call the North Stand, the Sewage Works End????
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@@DuncTheBlue1878 It's just so very old school footy ground!! Fuck all these mega sponsors!!
I asked for permission to fly myself, but I was told the same. I just hope they don't extend it!
I’ve got a hospital appointment at the Royal, could see how long it would take to walk from Aintree?
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Get a scooter mate
@@misterdroneuk nice one👍
Google it
Council blocking investment in a poor area is stupid unless they have a better plan
It just bothers me how they can just arbitrarily 'ban drone flights' stating "security issues" as an excuse , what are they afraid we might see ?
the police use drones for their surveillance of the crowds. with the amount of cameras on everyone's phones, they cant hide anything anymore.
Evening Nick. Good video as usual. I’m bring my son and mate and his sons up for a tour of Goodson at the end of the month. How long is the walk from goodison to Bramley Moore or is it easier to get a cab 😂
About a 40-minute walk
Well it’s deffo easier to get a cab but, like Dunc said, it’s about 35-40 mins walk. All down hill too 👍🏻
Cheers guys can’t wait to see the old lady one last time
You could get the train from Kirkdale to Sandhills.
All the opportunities there. Jesus
I don’t think Jesus will be opening a bar
@@Mark-mo6gt probably not 🤣👍
@@Mark-mo6gt 🤣, although he could do a nice establishment where water can be changed into wine and he could satisfy all the fans hunger with the odd fish caught locally and fresh bread baked on site?
@@davidbadcock2225
That’d be miraculous
@@Mark-mo6gt 😆
Any investment would need to be supported for the entire week. 1 days trade in a fortnight will not work. If a business was worth putting there, it would already be there. Its not even worthy for a defined bus route. I still think the site of the new stadium should have been Walton Park where the Everton Women`s pitch is. Putting the stadium on an industrial site that has just had its ``through route`` taken away. Business that are food outlets need a passing trade to survive, that is why the cafe and bookies are shut..
Peel holdings are developing the entire area....will be a different proposition in 5yrs..... admittedly no good for most businesses till then 👍
@@Mikey-xe4rb Its on industrial land and its always been heavy industry, before it is given residential approval, they will have to decontaminate the land first. that in itself takes years, the land Tesco built on, on Hawthorne Road that took 15 years to declare as safe and clear , The sewerage water works will put any house building developer off right away, who wants to live down wind from that stink? they could put up hotels but hotel patrons don't go buying from corner shops or chippys. All they thought was a ``on the river`` site is oh so glamorous and chic. There,,,, its just not. No thoughts for the convenience of the fans at all. Watching the fans go home after the first match will be interesting..
@@marksavage1108the journey home will be simple.... Sandhills station.....or walk up to Scotty road or walk into town.... you know Kirkdale stn isn't 100yrds from Goodison? I myself walk 1.5miles to Goodison, the difference will be a shorter walk to Rice Lane or Walton to jump the train ....or I'll walk on a nice day. It's hardly on the moon 🤣🤣
Again, video and information superb mate. Some questions.
1. Ideal for property investment around that area for the future. Plus it would tidy the area up which does need it. Is there a lot of interest regarding this since the stadium has been built?
2. Regarding the demonstrations, I suspect the police do not want videos posted on social media and people saying all sorts of things that may or may not be true. Sorry but I have heard numerous reasons for the demonstrations and do not really know what they were for? Can you maybe enlighten me regarding this?
4. Do you think that Everton Football Club and the people who run the ferries might use the West side of the stadium as a drop off point for fans that live across the water? It would be amazing for those people who come to the games on match day only?
Thanks again Nick. I don't live in UK, but can see so much potential for improving the water front of Liverpool which would make it a really neat place to visit. Regarding your comment on filming the stadium, it doesn't compare to actually seeing in person when I visited in June, what a massive and eye boggling structure it is, truly an amazingly big fortress.
Was there a Point #3? 😉
Re Point #4: no. it's not a financially viable idea, especially as better 'docking' facilities are present a short distance away for 365 days a year. The Mersey Estuary is tidal, shock-horror, so any 'quay' would be a complex build, especially as it would not be allowed to change the Mersey Wall fundamantally either, for all sorts of reasons.
@@davidbadcock2225 Hi David there was a 3, but I made it all 4 forgetting to amend. Regarding the docking facilities, isn't the build putting water back into the bottom of the west stand steps, therefore wouldn't be effected by the tide? Sorry if that a dumb question, as I don't really know the area. It looks like it wouldn't effect boats coming through the lock type entry?
@@nothing-jg7fw Fear not, it's not a dumb question.
Yes, water will return to the channel that used to be the very western end of the old BMD. One of its practical will actually be to allow all the site groundwater and excess rainwater to exit from the hole in the Seacant Wall below the Lower Promenade near the centre of the wall (when looking at the West Stand from over the Mersey Wall it is a little bit to the right/south of centre). However, water connections are not the same thing as being navigable for boats' passage.
The southern Isolation Bridge (Isolation is a major clue!) is the original bridge and it has pipes and valves in it to keep water flow even between BMD and Nelson Dock but it is a solid 'wall', in effect.
The northern Isolation Bridge is a completely new build. It has major cables for the Electrical Grid Network and huge numbers of Digital and Optical Fibre Cables running through it, in three ducts to keep the DNOC on the Western Quay connected to the stadium and the wider world. It will not be moving: it's static. So, whilst water will migrate to and fro a little underneath it, as it is a genuine bridge rather than a wall, it will not permit boats to pass under it. the Dock to the north is Sandon Dock and it belongs to Peel group as part of the Liverpool Ports and it's mostly used to berth their tugs. However the 'locks' at the SW corner of Sandon Half-Tide Dock and NW of the wall beyond BMD can't be used, as they have been made permanent fixtures, rather like a dam. The tugs and all craft have to travel quite a bit further north, through Huskisson Dock and Canada Dock to get to West Langton Dock to get access to the Mersey Estuary. Now, that access point is one of Liverpool Freeport's main access points and there would be absolutely no way that public transport would be allowed to use that access, even IF a ferry company decided the length of time it would take would make sense (it doesn't).
Now, with regard to Nelson Dock to the South, there are no docks remaining with direct access to the Mersey either, as all the entrances have been made into permanent walls. Now having said it's connected to the south to Trafalgar Dock (also no Mersey Access) and thence southwards by a thin stretch of almost-canal (a lot of the old dock had been filled in) down to the Isle of Man Terminal.
In all these dock water connections, it could only be that a minor water taxi service might be provided in future but it would only provide for people who were already on the eastern shore of the Mersey Estuary, not those from the Wirral or further afield and only if some form of dock quay was provided at the SW corner of Sandon or along the northern edge of Nelson Dock.
Take a few moments on Google Earth (start point Bramley-Moore dock) to follow the tracts of largely seawater (brownish water) and freshwater (blueish water), if it's of interest to follow up my comments.
@@davidbadcock2225 Wow, David, thank you so much. It does make sense, you have amazing knowledge of the area. I wondered about water taxi's but I felt that when I was there, that Mersey River flows quite fast when the tide comes in or goes out and noticed the ferries had a battle to dock because of the pressure. So glad I subscribe to this channel, as I have always read your information you have passed on to enquiring minds like me with many questions. Thank you.👌
@@nothing-jg7fw YW.
Nick, I’m sure that building for £2k a month is going to be the new Hot Wok
Oh is it ye? Looks a good place that. Needs some work doing though!
I thought it was going to be 'The Terrace Bar' - or maybe that's another one...
Hot Wok have bought a property on Regent Road opposite the Hydraulic Tower 👍🏻
shame about the hotel thats typical of Liverpool council, they aint interested in improving the area at all.
Not worth anyone opening any hospitality venue around that area as only business would be a couple of hours 20+ home games per year & half a dozen concerts at the very most. Make more sense selling rice to the Chinese.
I think the name of the game is get in early. In 10/15 years the whole area should be renovated and repopulated.
@@neilmadden1971 So spend a few hundred grand getting somewhere and doing it up, then spend ££££ annually on wages and running costs with practically no customers while hoping in 10/15 years enough people might now live near enough and want to use your business? Hope their happy to lose a couple of million.
@@neilmadden1971 Its got a sewer water works next door but 1, the entire area is a big long heavy industrial estate. Its never had houses there to be renovated and repopulated so good luck getting a residential building permit on industrial land. Anything west of the railway line is nothing but industry.
Can you walk from Bramley Moore dock to Anfield?
Nick ..these properties are all vacant for a reason, you have zero chance of getting planning permission from the council,you have more chance of winning the jackpot 2 times running on the euro lotto..
So wear is the hot woke going caus they moving there by ground
Hot Wok have one of the buildings opposite the northern vehicle entrance
How about have a drink at mister drones
He said that ideas a bit up in the air at the moment
Can you not do city’s ground
The damage is done by feral kids who loot because the police have their hands full. You saw in Middlesborough one kids about 15 smash up half a dozen cars and houses in his own area not even immigrants. These ferals have been here for years they burnt down our bowls hut and turned the green into a 5 a side pitch.
In countries I live in I can leave my lap top on the table in the pub and know it will still be there if I go the toilet.
in Thailand people leave their business stuff on the street eg sewing machine and nobody touches it.Kids here would never be rude to an adult.
Western society is finished get out if you can
Great video mate
Well don’t give your opinion then
It's in place so people can't witness the 2 tier policing