And if you take your child to the R rated one, that's on you, not the performer. Same party that tried to ban explicit music, same party that blames video games for school shootings.
And most are PG-13+. I went to a drag brunch at a Hamburger Mary's which is a BAR and grill. The hostess mentions the previous show had like 10 kids, so she had to mind her filthy mouth 🙄. Maybe don't bring your kids to a drag show at a bar. Conservative parents want shit catered to them instead of doing some fucking research.
I was thinking the same, then I remembered what I was like when I first got given makeup 😂 I created a look called “ice cool”, created entirely with shades of blue and white eyeshadow on practically every part of my face, lips and all 😂😂😂 In my defence, I was left unsupervised…
A mess that never leaves, at that. I did a theater show that had confetti in one scene. We were still finding pieces of confetti six months after the show ended.
I mean a clown is dressed in colorful clothes and does children's shows. Its that the definition of drag show is to show off people in drag.... the only difference between a normal person and a person in drag is that they specificly show of the aspect that they are a man dressed up as a women or vise versa... If its a kids clown show thats one thing, but if its a children's drag show its kind of a different beast all together. Why don't we keep the colorful child friendly shows off the topic of cross dressing snd be more for idk the entertainment of the children? If we are supose to acept and normalize drag as an aspect a normal aspect of someone's life why do they have to define the kids show as a drag show? Wouldn't those just be normal people? Or are you pushing the portion that they are in drag as a forefront of the show? Which one is it, is it not about the fact that they're in drag and its a kids show or is it a drag show with less sex appeal making it more appropriate than a nightclub show.... not appropriate more appropriate.....
Like I remember doing a lipsync to Bohemian Rhapsody with my improved group for this competition between the clubs. I couldn't do half the fun stuff I did of I was actually trying to sing. I couldn't give it the amount of drama Bohemian Rhapsody requires.
Some parts I can understand but half the time those shows are said “18 or older” so the family friendly ones I don’t understand? It’s fun and enjoyable. Just make sure to double check it is family friendly 😂😂 Edit: From so many people not understanding this is a joke. I have no hate against drag queens 🙄
I feel like it shouldn't be banned just because parents took their kids to a drag show. Like for the ones that arnt family friendly they say that they say 18+ and it shouldn't be on the drag queens or eny one else except for the parents that decided to take the kid there
@@cam.4599 fr that's like banning Deadpool because parents thought it was a kids movie and took their middle school aged children to go see it even though it has a age rating and the character literally explains its inappropriate at the beginning of the film
@@jadeblade865 yea like there is a reason they say things like "not for children" or "18 and up" it's not their fault it's the parents that left their brain at home
Both are bad. Flower Petals too. I worked at a Drag Bar & anytime anyone throws that stuff around I would have to clean it up quickly so the next performer didn’t fall & get hurt.
Omfg! Now you've triggered my PTSD and anxiety! The horrors that I've lived through with that devil's sand! My imaginary therapist is definitely going to be calling you and cussing you out for effing up all the progress we've made in the last 5yrs damnit! (For everyone who doesn't have a clue...this is sarcasm 🙄)
The most egregious influence they had was making your kid want to throw confetti. Do they understand how difficult it will be to talk them out of it?! Or how hard it will be to clean up when you inevitably cave and end up with confetti all over your house? How could they show that to kids!!
You know, I know people are being funny about all this, but glitter and confetti would be an absolute nightmare to clean up. That is no laughing matter 🤣
I completely agree with wanting glitter in my pockets at all times to throw around when the mood strikes. Could you just imagine getting done presenting your project for your boss and deciding it needed a little extra flair? ✨Perfection✨ 🤣
Yeeess! Imagine doing ice breakers "... And those are three things about me **throws confetti** **walks off podium while imagining everybody's clapping**
Glitter also sticks... Might be great for Anti-Karen missions.... Perfect answer for the peeping Karen who seems unsure of which bathroom she should insist you use 😜
@@kitcat8308 i'm usually the manager a karen asks for. but i'm being completely honest with you when i say i'd fuck you up for assaulting me with glitter. gods i'm getting irate just thinking about it. thanks to this, an innocent gay man somewhere in the world is getting beat up right now and a puppy is getting violently kicked. you would've been a great torturer, but please know you've been warned to never do this to a stranger. or a friend.
In my city, some public libraries have a children's story time that's hosted by drag queens, where people in drag read children's books to the kids in the community. For people in those communities it's a lot of fun. A few years back anti-queer right wingers stormed one of the buildings and began chanting homophobic slogans, shouting at the parents, staff and queens and blocking exits. It was horrific and terrified all involved, especially the kids. The actions went down like a house on fire, though. The community rallied against them, their petitions were thoroughly smashed by people voicing support and they were barred from entering state libraries entirely. "Think of the children" is right wing virtue signalling.
I'd go so far as to say that it's a dogwhistle, given that they only ever use it in relation to oppressing other people. I have literally never seen any Right Wing individual use "think of the children" in anyway that would actually *protect* children. Not when it comes to school shootings, not when it comes to the religious cover ups regarding CSA, not when it comes to schools punishing the victims of bullying, not when it comes to funding for schools and teachers, not when it comes to programs to provide care for child who aren't financially secure. They *ONLY* use it to rally the other bigots to defend whatever they're getting offended about and demand the oppression of this week. Which is what a political dogwhistle is.
@@AmieDeLalla not really. It was tragic at the time, and even more tragic later. The instigator of the ordeal and campaign overall later took his own life. Hey was gay. He spent his final years trying to cause as much harm as legally possible, and then vacated our world carrying shame and guilt that he didn't need to.
@@alicecain4851 oh yeah, definitely. I'm super proud of the community response. The person I responded to came off as sarcastic, "nice story" being a dismissive response to imply a person is making something up. I wanted them to understand that this wasn't just a story, that it was an event with human costs and treating it facetiously was wrong.
There is simply no reason for a minor to be at an 18+ party period. The idea that it has to be banned because people cant think logically is quite sad.
@@tthomas8756 If they are doing that it should be on the parents not on the drag performers. Based on you comment it seemed like you were against drag performers being around children in general but I read it pretty quickly. I’ve been responding to lot of actually homophobic people and I thought you were agreeing with them. As members of the 🏳️🌈 community we need to be standing for education not agreeing with the bigots.
@@tthomas8756 I jumped the gun because I have been genuinely brought to tears by the shit people have been saying in this comment section. They really needs to be turned off at this point. So much trauma has been brought up for me because of people’s responses.
Idk why people don’t understand that drag queens aren’t inherently sexual. Hell, even the drag queens I’ve seen at 18+ clubs aren’t more sexual than an Ariana Grande concert. I feel like the vast majority of drag is pretty PG
You have to admit a lot of those people aren’t very rational. They’re so worried about the children but if they’re own children came out as gay they’d have no problem kicking them out and disowning them, putting their own children at risk for a lot of inappropriate things to happen to them… I have more than a few lgbtq friends that were kicked out with just the clothes on their back at 15 and 16 left to fend for themselves by people that were always so worried what children were being exposed to…to then just have their own children exposed to dangerous situations that their children would not have exposed to if they were actually concerned instead of faking concern to mask their blatant homophobia…these types of people gives off the same energy as the governor’s wife who wanted to shoot Britney Spears for being inappropriate for children and receiving no backlash for that comment and Diane Sawyer acting like it was somehow Britney’s fault…
Kids don't think it's an issue or wrong until an adult tells them it is. They may have questions but they sometimes have questions about straight couples too...
I think people just need to use common sense. Only take your kids to drag shows billed as family friendly. That's literally it. No kids gonna be harmed seeing a man dress up as a woman, in the UK we traditionally have pantomime dames which are men usually with beards dressed as women, pantomimes are like interactive plays you go see at Christmas time, they're mainly for kids (though very fun for adults too) and these have been going on since long before homosexuality was accepted in Britain. Somehow generations of children have managed to be unharmed by seeing a man in women's clothes. Most male British actors have even played women at some point so long as they went to an acting school.
But thats the thing: Republicans think seeing a man dressed as a woman itself is harmful for children. Thats why they want to ban it. Arguing if it has adult stuff in it is not helping because they think the concept itself is sexual, degenerate and harmful for kids.
@@soupy55 As a non-conservative, I can tell you that we are not all extremists. Tons of Dems are moving to this state because it is awesome. I don't agree with this ban or the ban they tried to push for abortion including birth control and condoms. We really shouldn't generalize people's views because we aren't all extremists.
Remember, these moralists are the same people okay with parents putting their 2-year-old daughters in beauty pageants but think two men holding hands is Dangerous For The Chillllldrennnn to Seeeeee.
I was watching Rupaul's Drag Race the other day. My 6 year old twins came in the room to watch with me. They've never seen it before. I explained they were men dressed as women to entertain people. My daughter also asked why they weren't really singing. My son said that they were really pretty!
So a Drag Queen reading a stories to children, which I’m sure was full of dramatic flair, the characters coming to life, and wonderful storytelling is heinous, but crazies storming the building locking exits, using slurs, and terrifying children is OK? Better than that, it’s the morally right thing to do? That’s what they think? Make that make sense to me, please anyone? We know that there are adult drag shows, we also know that things can be toned down for children. Most adults would never ever be comfortable with doing something distasteful in front of children, that includes Drag Queens. I know several Queens and none of them would ever even consider doing anything other than something fun and cute to perform for children. It can be whimsical, funny, with singing and dancing. So much pomp and pageantry the kids would love it. It’s a fairytale fantasy come to life. Parents bringing their children to an adult drag show is the problem; it is not the Drag Queens. It makes them just as uncomfortable as it makes us. Blame it on the parents not on those beautiful talented Queens
This is unreasonable and wrong. If those men want to read to children, they can put on normal clothes and be generous expressive readers, without exposing children to this ludicrous sexual subculture. If it's about the book they clearly don't need some absurd distraction. If they want to dress up so bad they can put on a play for the children and dress up as the characters, but they won't because drag is not about and for the kids it is for sexualizing all these areas of public life. It is sexual grooming and needs to stop.
I would consider this just theatre regardless of what gender is dressing as what gender. Children do not belong at real drag shows. Drag shows are highly sexual and that's the fun of the expirience- for adults.
As a drag performer, I just wanna say, thank you... And yes, there is age appropriate drag... We tend to not do club style (18-21+) drag in areas it isn't appropriate... Most of us know better, and have the ability to adjust according to the audience. We're just out here being Disney princesses & princes anyway. People need to look deeper into the art, before making assumptions.
Great, but I've seen some drag shows that were advertised as family friendly then someone came out with fake boobs with nipple tassels. I'm not sure if I'd risk bringing my children.
As long as the Content of the show, costumes, (like the ones they wore were you went) and location are appropriate for children then I think it would actually be a really fun thing for kids to do. ❤
Basically, drag shows are OTT for the most part. It really depends on the sexuality part of it and how much kids understand. It should be at the parents discretion.
Some parents don't have common sense, and take their kids to adult shows. Or they're sick ass MF'S who are getting a rise out of watching their kids in what should be an adult only environment. I'm not talking about shows like the one he's showing, but the ones that have breasts exposed, extremely sexualized moves or having little kids taking dollars from adults while on stage..🤢. Believe me, kids will remember something like that. I remember a lot of things that were traumatic experiences when I was 3 and a few months before I turned 3yrs.
I was actually for the ban, but after a conversation with my wife about what attending a drag show with our own children would have meant.. I came to realize I was wayyy overthinking it. Most people aren’t malevolent.. accidentally inappropriate is possible, but these queens aren’t trying to sexualize kids. They just want to show kids that being different doesn’t mean your not a human. We all wake up and put our pants/fishnets on one leg at a time.
Yeah, but unfortunately, with any group of people there's good and bad ones. It's the bad ones that are causing the issues. Exposing themselves in front of small children, etc. When it's supposed to be family friendly. There's always going to be that ONE MF who ruins it for the whole group.
Had a guy harass me online for two weeks straight because I dared to make the comment that a drag show the news was claiming had “children in attendance” didn’t actually have children in attendance, the audience was all late teens early 20s (I.e. all 18+ but still kinda young). Turned out I was right (the news outlet pulled the story upon finding out everyone in attendance was 18+) but the guy still accused me of being a groomer and a pedophile and all these other nasty things… the ironic part is I was 16 at the time, the guy claimed to be in his 30s. All because I said that even if it was for kids, they weren’t actually doing anything inappropriate, just dancing, and everyone was just mad they were educating people about respecting gender identities.
Interesting. Honestly, the videos I’ve been seeing with children there have been the ones where it should be categorised as 18+ attendees only. I see both perspectives tbh. Glad to hear the whole family had fun.
Right. I have no problem if it is actually family friendly. But the ones where kids shouldn't be and are being forced are just wrong.and it does exist we've all seen plenty of videos showing it. But who cares if a man wants to dress as a lady and preform.let them live their best life too. I've watched quite a few shows and they seem like a lot of fun. I'd go and take my grandson as long as his parents were ok with it and it was family friendly. Just do your due diligence as a parent and make sure it's ok for kids. And if it actually isn't don't force them to be there. Glad they had a good time
This applies to literally anything. If you care about your kids you should make sure anything you take them to is family friendly. You shouldn’t just assume that because something has “Disney” in the title you can bring them or that something with Drag is inappropriate.
@@carlycasper7884 exactly. Basically just be aware and be good parents. It's not hard. And don't expect others to have the best intentions or interests when it comes to your children.
Awesome you said it yourself, "it was family friendly" most drag shows aren't. Also gonna be honest.. its weird asf to take your children specifically to a drag show. Like why? Even if it were a normal fashion show, why would you? I know they didn't ask to go, because they have no idea what it's for.
a lot of drag shows are family friendly, like a lot of performance based entertainment, different drag shows are geared towards different audiences. some kids wouldn’t ask to be taken to a play but they’re taken to them anyways, bringing your children to a live, family friendly, entertainment act (especially one that caters to children) isn’t that outrageous..
@@soopdadoop a drag show doesn't cater to a child. A drag show is used to express one's gender identity. Taking a child to a drag show only has one purpose, to expose them to different sexualities. You take a child to a play to expose them to performing arts. Same reason you take them to a baseball game, or a football game, or hell even a Saturday night bowling trip. You take them to expose them to these things as a 'happy pastime' or to get them intrested in the subject. Why do we need our 7 year olds exploring sexuality and gender identity?
@@budgetbuilt8838 Honestly, your entire argument falls Apart once you realize that drag isn't trans, this has nothing to do with gender or sexuality, this is literally just about the showmanship
@@yunogasai3350 what? I never mentioned trans, you assume trans. And yes, it has everything to do with gender and sexuality. A simple Google of "what's a drag show" would prolly fuckin tell you that. You say it's about 'showmanship' but about what? Sexuality and gender identity. It's that simple.
USUALLY they are DRESSED PROVATIVELY. thats why. They were originally in a strip club, and they usually play in bars. Usually you see alot more skin than the ones that are actually family friendly. Its ok if they dress ok.
So like anything... It can be sexual but isn't INHERENTLY sexual... Wowww it's almost like you discovered what the meaning of "there's a time and a place for (blank)"
Once my cousin (6) saw me drawing a fanart of (insert dramatic music) a gay couple kissing! The conversation went like Her: what are you doing? Me: drawing Her: are thet kissing? Me: yeah Her: they're both boys Me: that's right Her: why are they kissing? Me: because they're in love Her: so they're gay? Me: yes Her: ok I don't think I traumatized her. Probably her "traditional family supporter" father did when he runned away with his mistess (or at least I think he did he won't tell his own mother and sister where he's living)
I love when people put the real events up so that others actually see what goes on. It's craaaazyyyy what people will believe goes on when they have NEVER seen a drag show in their lives in the first place, much less one that is family friendly. Draq Queens are performers, and they put on amazing shows! I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't enjoy something like this.
I do not care what anyone says. I WILL be taking my child to a drag show. (obviously family friendly) But yeah idc what ppl say. Start a fight do it i couldn’t care less.
It’s a shame you aren’t actually talking about the tons of other videos of what should obviously be adult only drag shows that kids are at and giving money to these drag queens barely dressed. Drag shows are a form of adult entertainment. It’s not for children and should never be for children.
Drag queens are literally if clowns were combined with princesses. It's just people that wanna dress so feminine it's goofy and entertain people. If you can name any specific drag events where children were actually put in danger of these horrible, nondescript, lascivious acts, please do! I'd love to see your sources because I've seen none in my years in the community.
I feel like you’re referencing that one picture that’s of a little girl putting money into the underwear of a cis woman She wasn’t a drag queen or king, that was a cis woman
Drag can be family friendly. We have pantomimes in the uk and traditionally the lead female role is taken by a male. Usually a straight or gay TV personality but the kids and adults love it. There's a big difference between enjoying it in a setting meant for children and a nightclub setting.
Exactly, historically speaking, high heels were for men, wigs, "skirts", and women weren't allowed to be actors in some countries so the female characters were played by men. As with anything since the beginning of time.... There's always going to be that ONE MF who ruins it for everyone else. Unfortunately, all "drag" shows or anything that can be considered drag shows will probably eventually be outlawed.
@@unscmistressgaming1132 i do not want my children to grow up thinking that drag is normal. It’s not. I don’t even get what it is, but it’s absurd and it’s a choice and not everyone has to agree that there is anything good about it.
we just gonna look past the ones in pre schools where they're half naked??? havent seen anyone have problems w drag in general it's the ones where there's clearly a crime being committed that ppl have a problem with
if you’re a parents it is your responsibility to double check if what you’re bringing your kids to is family friendly it has nothing to do with the drag queen they didn’t make you go
Nothing against drag shows but why the need to kidify what's essentially adult entertainment has panto died out or has it just been rebranded as family drag shows?
Drag at its core is just overperformance of gendered stereotypes/expressions. That’s not inherently sexual by any means. It can be made sexual because so can gender expressions, but the only reason it’s been marketed mainly to adults for so long is because this whole “think of the children” virtue signaling is not a new scare tactic whatsoever.
@@fionatastic0.070 umm no, drag definitely started as adult entertainment, I've attended quite a few over the years. Pantomime is also an over exagerration of gender, just in fairytale settings, but don't hear so much about those these days. Genuinely curious if family drag shows are intended to be a modern replacement as was not something I ever thought would go mainstream.
@@angeltangle generally the more family friendly ones seem to just be more about expression and performance, like the difference between dancing and... well "exotic" dancing
@@angeltangle Drag started as part of voguing, theatre, and other types of performance associated with the queer community. It wasn’t necessarily sexual to start with. It developed that way over time as queer people were erased from historical teachings and so people didn’t learn about being queer until adulthood. It’s probably marketed as drag and not pantomime because Americans aren’t often familiar with what that is.
My son saw a guy wearing a dress. He looked at him then at me multiple times. I just told him the truth, some guys like wearing wearing women's clothes.
@@carlycasper7884 _"it doesn’t affect you in anyway"_ This excuse is exactly why society is sliding into the toilet. "They just want to marry who they want, they aren't hurting anyone" and next thing they are sexualising kids and teaching them that the white ones are evil oppressors. You are an enabler, you should feel bad about yourself but you don't because you don't have the self awareness.
@@carlycasper7884 _"Wow racist too"_ I'm not shocked that someone like you would screech about racism where none exists. It's all too predictable these days Miss Smollett.
Exactly this. Exposing young kids to the kinks that some adults have is fundamentally wrong. Shows just how broken our society is that this even exists, let alone having people praise it.
I wouldn’t consider it “adult entertainment” but that’s beside the point. The reason we need family friendly versions of these shows is so children can be exposed to different lifestyles/cultures and learn not to fear them. Most of the time people hate the things they fear which just creates violence. Anti-Black racism came from the stereotypes that black people are inherently violent or criminal. And homophobia comes from the stereotype that we are inherently sexual. Which is why you hear things like “I just don want my kids exposed to that” or “You can do it behind closed doors but not in front of me” No one is born with hate in their hearts it is just put on us by society.
@@ferrumignis Drag is not a kink. There is nothing sexual about it unless it is a show intended to be sexual. In that case, it’s your fault if you bring your kid there.
@@carlycasper7884 _"different lifestyles/cultures"_ You are talking about sexual deviancy, so just call it what it is. The fact you want to have children exposed to this makes you a groomer.
@@carlycasper7884 _"There is nothing sexual about it"_ That is a straight up lie, why are you so dishonest?. Just check out the videos of some of the drag story time events, those people are dressed in an extremely sexually provocative manner.
I'm the child of a gay man and had the pleasure of living with 3 gay men, 2 were drag queens. I saw their costumes and wigs and helped them care for it. However, they made it explicitly clear that drag shows are x rated adult entertainment and I was never allowed to attend a single show because I was a minor. I am blessed to have experienced well balanced respectful drag queens.
This is what we're talking about, setting understand boundaries and I'm assuming they weren't dressed up around you for the most part. People don't mind regulated safe drag shows, they mind when there are drag shows near children and are performed by known sex offenders pesos and etc. Good on you.
There was a family friendly drag show at a local pub in the middle of the day. Church groups set up on the courthouse lawn across the street with bullhorns yelling about how everyone there was going to hell 😂
My church actually went to a drag show once….to enjoy the show not to hate. It was actually ran by a different church and the people who did it was like 3 drag Queen and 2 drag kings. It was so much fun!
Yay! Love taking my kids to drag shows at pride. I of course take them to age appropriate ones, just like I take them to se age appropriate movies and concerts. So we've seen our fair share of Elsa and Olaf / baby shark / Mulan/ Moana drag shows and it was awesome.
One of the most wholesome things you can remember is men satisfying their sexual fetishes in public around your children? These are grown adults, they can do whatever they want behind the privacy of closed doors with other consenting adults, but exposing children to it is absolutely wrong.
They are not sexual fantasies. Men like to dress up for fun. Children are not influenced by it at all. It doesn’t make them gay because people have always been gay. It doesn’t traumatize them as you can see by how much fun his kid had. So what’s your actual problem? My guess is that you just hate gay people.
@@thedanceshack16 huh I guess all the drag queens which are coming out and saying this is horrific and not to do it because it is 100% a sexual fetish must be lying. You'll need better bait
@@TD-ug4mg that's because those are performers who only perform for adults. But drag is alive in every pantomime ever and that's purely a family event. It's almost like there's no rule that covers everything because people do different things huh
I can understand not bringing kids to a drag show meant for adults, because those have more lewd costumes and movements, but family friendly shows there is literally nothing wrong with it
I think the ban is meant for the shows where they are scantily dressed and dancing inappropriately. Drag shows were not originally intended for children, so they typically have sexual undertones or even very obviously sexual. People really need to stop bringing up the exception and realized it's based on the rule.
@@tannermaynard5991 how the fuck is it sexual?? its literally men in a shit ton of makeup and cool clothes. the name STRIP CLUB implies REMOVING CLOTHING. gadamn, mfs cant think these days
Toddlers tipping drag strippers by putting dollar bills in their panties, while their parents watch and clap, is fucking weird. The whole children, drag issue is a LOT bigger than a family friendly dress up in the park. Teenage girls are told to cover up their bra straps in school because it’s distracting but a male teacher can come to a facility built for minors, wearing comically large rubber breasts, and it’s called INCLUSIVE. one day, we will all look back on this time period and fucking throw up.
@@abithefallenhuman921 As I have said before, just look at some of the drag story time videos, they are NOT like panto, and some of these freaks have already been found to be on sex offenders register.
But you know with republicans the wording is going to be so vague that it allows for “innocent” people like the one at this family friendly shows to be negatively affected Also I don’t think people are doing the night club show around kids would it be stripping hence already 18 but probably 21+ cause they serve liquor So idk just seems pointless
I'm sorry but drag is proven in psychology as a sexually deviant behaviour, so no drag is not appropriate for children. Drag shows 9/10 are burlesque and that is an intentionally sexually provocative form of dance. As a survivor of childhood sexual abuse, I see it as no different to intentionally exposing a child to pornography.
Dude just spend two seconds googling if the show you plan on going to is family friendly or not. It's on you if you don't do that research, not the other people there.
@@speedartandmore why are family friendly drag shows even a thing? Isn't that like a family friendly lap dance? Why are we taking something clearly meant for adults, and trying to convert it into children's entertainment? The only reason I can think of is to try and blur the lines. If some drag shows are OK for kids, suddenly there is a grey area between what's child friendly and what's not. We've got G, PG, PG13 and R rated drag shows, so we can ease the kids into getting lap dances in gay strip clubs. I believe they call that grooming.
@@austinveno6743 you are conflating drag with burlesque. I used to have the same mindset as you. I went to one and it was a tribute to a late singer. That was it. The drag was was never inappropriate to children at all. You think this way because you’re primed to think that anything related to being lgbt or gender nonconformity is inherently hyper sexual when it is not.
Me and my roommate were actively planning to go to a dragshow for the Xmas holidays and if it wasn’t shut down due to Covid-19, we would’ve had the time of our lives.
For anyone defending the "family friendly" drag shows just need to watch clips of what happens there to see why it's oxymoronic. Keep kids away from adult entertainers.
Well they are in drag. So, even though it’s the same as any other play for children people considered it sexual. It’s insane. No one is taking their children to 18+ drag shows.
Consider this, people complain about gay couples kissing because it's "corrupting the children", people say shooter games are the reason for school shootings, so how likely is it for the same people to see something objectively family friendly that they think is wrong and then complain about it?
I can understand maybe if there was a whole lot of suggestive and/or straight up sexual things happening right around them, but clearly there wasn't anything wrong here. God forbid we actually educate children about other types of people so that they don't go treating others as if they're weird just for being honest with themselves and being able to be who they truly are. I wish I would've been taught more how to be there for friends who might be struggling with their sexuality, cause even as a straight man, I've asked my own personal questions about my own sexuality, and I feel like that's a very healthy battle to have within yourself, as long as people are educated about it and don't go around treating people like garbage when they already probably feel vulnerable or alone or misunderstood.
I don’t really understand how a drag queen is a “different type of person”… it’s not like they are trans or anything.. they are just a performer, right?
@@Winterbaby1977 that's right, drag isn't trans people But let's be honest, not ever man wears a skirt or a dress, so it's definitely a different type of getup, no?
@@yunogasai3350 not really. But I do find the sight of a man dressed up with big boobs and sparkly dresses and makeup disturbing to look at. I cringe. And I especially don’t like the look of them spending time with children, even if they are toned down and not spouting off sexual innuendo at the kids. It’s just not for me. Other things not for me -porn -promiscuity -sexually explicit music -twerking You might just call me a run of the mill prude.
@@carlycasper7884 I've been seeing you around in the comments, you're great the way you are! A lot of people will be rude to you for trying to teach acceptance, don't let that get you down! Every comment I've seen from you put a smile on my face, seeing you try this hard to teach about acceptance when people are just assholes to you! Keep being awesome!
Yes! Seriously! I recently was watching Trixie Mattel talk about drag shows and how they're literally just singing and dancing and having fun. Kids aren't judging that. Kids just want to have fun with them. There's no indoctrination. People honestly think drag queens care about your children to the point where they would want to change them? That's just paranoia.
I think the issue is the ones that are mis advertised as family friendly when they aren't there are adult ones the should have a rating like movies since family friendly can mean different things it's too vague for a rating
I grew up watching pantomimes and the whole thing is basically a family friendly drag show . We have schools taking the students to watch them as a Christmas treat. They have pantomimes in church halls over here in the UK. They are fun and enjoyable .
Pantomimes are one thing, but have you seen the videos of some of the drag queen kids events? Highly sexualised, and some of these sickos have been outed as child molesters. It's the perfect setup for them to get close to kids.
Lol, of course not. Just like movies, plays, and books, lots of drag shows are only appropriate for adults. But they’re not trying to trick people. If someone is unsure whether a show is family friendly, then they can ask. Just like they would for any piece of media. I’m sure that A Serbian Film would traumatize children, but that doesn’t mean that we need a law banning children from watching all movies. This whole panic is a huge overreaction.
@@KO-vb4tg It seems like an overreaction when you're looking at just drag shows. But you have to look at everything going on in this sphere right now. It is not just this one thing. It is what's happening in schools, online, in hospitals, within certain state governments. It's a lot of things adding up to paint a picture that looks scary to certain parents.
@@AmericanWoman90 mkay, but the laws are about this one thing. That’s totally harmless if parents take an ounce of initiative and responsibility for the media they let their kids consume. Look, I sympathize that raising kids right now is probably scary. But this is superrrr misdirected. It’s just a silly show, it’s literally not that deep.
@@KO-vb4tg man, I'm finally glad someone seems to get it. Like parents need to be parents and stop blaming everything else around it. Or choose not to have kids, but some of them weren't really planned to be had so...I guess it's the government's fault their kids are consuming toxic media, whatever they think toxic means.
Drag shows are like the movies- some are rated G, some are rated R.
And if you take your child to the R rated one, that's on you, not the performer. Same party that tried to ban explicit music, same party that blames video games for school shootings.
excellent analogy!!
And most are PG-13+. I went to a drag brunch at a Hamburger Mary's which is a BAR and grill. The hostess mentions the previous show had like 10 kids, so she had to mind her filthy mouth 🙄. Maybe don't bring your kids to a drag show at a bar.
Conservative parents want shit catered to them instead of doing some fucking research.
& most are XXX rated
@@jessnotliketherest85 If people are having literal intercourse on stage that is news to me!! Sounds intense
The 18+ drags I've been too they literally check your id and don't let minors in. It was my 18 bday and they made me wait til 12:01 to enter
Lmaooo
Ok that's funny
That’s hilarious
That's fucking hilarious 😂
Right, let's get rid of kids movies cause rated R movies exist.
The worst thing I can think of is wanting confetti... expect a mess once you get home 😂😂😂
The preschool teacher I work with loves big messy projects and its help me work through my disdain for chaos but I did tell her NO GLITTER!!!!😬🤣
I was thinking the same, then I remembered what I was like when I first got given makeup 😂
I created a look called “ice cool”, created entirely with shades of blue and white eyeshadow on practically every part of my face, lips and all 😂😂😂
In my defence, I was left unsupervised…
A mess that never leaves, at that. I did a theater show that had confetti in one scene. We were still finding pieces of confetti six months after the show ended.
I believe hes probably already got a mess.
Thank gods my daughter never wears makeup unless she's dressed for an event. And at five I never would have allowed it.
Ultimatimatly when you think about it, when it's toned down for kids , it's basically dress up
100% it's adults that demonise everything and corrupt kids.
i mean, yeah. sounds fun. we should all play dress up once in a while lol
I mean a clown is dressed in colorful clothes and does children's shows.
Its that the definition of drag show is to show off people in drag.... the only difference between a normal person and a person in drag is that they specificly show of the aspect that they are a man dressed up as a women or vise versa...
If its a kids clown show thats one thing, but if its a children's drag show its kind of a different beast all together.
Why don't we keep the colorful child friendly shows off the topic of cross dressing snd be more for idk the entertainment of the children?
If we are supose to acept and normalize drag as an aspect a normal aspect of someone's life why do they have to define the kids show as a drag show? Wouldn't those just be normal people? Or are you pushing the portion that they are in drag as a forefront of the show?
Which one is it, is it not about the fact that they're in drag and its a kids show or is it a drag show with less sex appeal making it more appropriate than a nightclub show.... not appropriate more appropriate.....
No it’s not
@@bouldering122 thoughtfully thought thoughts you're thinking i think
This was great. xD "Why were they llip syncing!?!" the outrage i'm sure he felt.
Bro that would have been me!
"Get off the stage you fake"
"Honey I'm just as real as any woman"
"No the lip sync beeeech"
"Oh"
These are the hard questions... How do we answer them.
I'd just say you can do things lipsyncing that you can't do while trying to sing without it being really difficult.
Like I remember doing a lipsync to Bohemian Rhapsody with my improved group for this competition between the clubs.
I couldn't do half the fun stuff I did of I was actually trying to sing. I couldn't give it the amount of drama Bohemian Rhapsody requires.
Some parts I can understand but half the time those shows are said “18 or older” so the family friendly ones I don’t understand? It’s fun and enjoyable. Just make sure to double check it is family friendly 😂😂
Edit: From so many people not understanding this is a joke. I have no hate against drag queens 🙄
They will definitely make it known.
You usually can see it from a mile away if it's not family friendly. They're not shy to say it's not for kdis.
I feel like it shouldn't be banned just because parents took their kids to a drag show. Like for the ones that arnt family friendly they say that they say 18+ and it shouldn't be on the drag queens or eny one else except for the parents that decided to take the kid there
@@cam.4599 fr that's like banning Deadpool because parents thought it was a kids movie and took their middle school aged children to go see it even though it has a age rating and the character literally explains its inappropriate at the beginning of the film
@@jadeblade865 yea like there is a reason they say things like "not for children" or "18 and up" it's not their fault it's the parents that left their brain at home
As long as it's confetti and not glitter **shudders**
Both are bad. Flower Petals too. I worked at a Drag Bar & anytime anyone throws that stuff around I would have to clean it up quickly so the next performer didn’t fall & get hurt.
glitter the herpes of craft supplies... just when you think you got rid of it, it shows up again
Or silly putty
Omfg! Now you've triggered my PTSD and anxiety! The horrors that I've lived through with that devil's sand! My imaginary therapist is definitely going to be calling you and cussing you out for effing up all the progress we've made in the last 5yrs damnit!
(For everyone who doesn't have a clue...this is sarcasm 🙄)
The most egregious influence they had was making your kid want to throw confetti. Do they understand how difficult it will be to talk them out of it?! Or how hard it will be to clean up when you inevitably cave and end up with confetti all over your house? How could they show that to kids!!
Compromise.
Biodegradable confetti strictly outside.
Go for broke my little humans,
Confetti. The STD of the art supply world.
@@ashesfalldown492 no, that's glitter
You know, I know people are being funny about all this, but glitter and confetti would be an absolute nightmare to clean up. That is no laughing matter 🤣
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I completely agree with wanting glitter in my pockets at all times to throw around when the mood strikes. Could you just imagine getting done presenting your project for your boss and deciding it needed a little extra flair? ✨Perfection✨ 🤣
Yeeess! Imagine doing ice breakers "... And those are three things about me **throws confetti** **walks off podium while imagining everybody's clapping**
Glitter also sticks... Might be great for Anti-Karen missions.... Perfect answer for the peeping Karen who seems unsure of which bathroom she should insist you use 😜
how do you get glitter out of things? if you don't have an answer to this, kindly go to hell.
@@kitcat8308 i'm usually the manager a karen asks for. but i'm being completely honest with you when i say i'd fuck you up for assaulting me with glitter. gods i'm getting irate just thinking about it. thanks to this, an innocent gay man somewhere in the world is getting beat up right now and a puppy is getting violently kicked.
you would've been a great torturer, but please know you've been warned to never do this to a stranger. or a friend.
@@zitools I wouldn't actually do this.... But it's still fun to imagine sometimes. My IRL go to is turn up the music on my headphones and walk away.
In my city, some public libraries have a children's story time that's hosted by drag queens, where people in drag read children's books to the kids in the community. For people in those communities it's a lot of fun.
A few years back anti-queer right wingers stormed one of the buildings and began chanting homophobic slogans, shouting at the parents, staff and queens and blocking exits.
It was horrific and terrified all involved, especially the kids.
The actions went down like a house on fire, though. The community rallied against them, their petitions were thoroughly smashed by people voicing support and they were barred from entering state libraries entirely.
"Think of the children" is right wing virtue signalling.
I'd go so far as to say that it's a dogwhistle, given that they only ever use it in relation to oppressing other people.
I have literally never seen any Right Wing individual use "think of the children" in anyway that would actually *protect* children. Not when it comes to school shootings, not when it comes to the religious cover ups regarding CSA, not when it comes to schools punishing the victims of bullying, not when it comes to funding for schools and teachers, not when it comes to programs to provide care for child who aren't financially secure.
They *ONLY* use it to rally the other bigots to defend whatever they're getting offended about and demand the oppression of this week. Which is what a political dogwhistle is.
Nice story
@@AmieDeLalla not really. It was tragic at the time, and even more tragic later. The instigator of the ordeal and campaign overall later took his own life. Hey was gay. He spent his final years trying to cause as much harm as legally possible, and then vacated our world carrying shame and guilt that he didn't need to.
it was still overall a positive story.
you hadn't given the rest of the story so how could we know?
your town rallied!
that was crazy positive!
@@alicecain4851 oh yeah, definitely. I'm super proud of the community response. The person I responded to came off as sarcastic, "nice story" being a dismissive response to imply a person is making something up. I wanted them to understand that this wasn't just a story, that it was an event with human costs and treating it facetiously was wrong.
There is simply no reason for a minor to be at an 18+ party period. The idea that it has to be banned because people cant think logically is quite sad.
Everyone knows that. Drag is not inherently sexual and it was marketed as family friendly. You are just homophobic if you don’t get that
@@carlycasper7884 1, im bisexual, 2, if it was an actual universal fact, parents wouldnt be bringing their kids to the 18+ drag shows, now would they?
@@tthomas8756 If they are doing that it should be on the parents not on the drag performers. Based on you comment it seemed like you were against drag performers being around children in general but I read it pretty quickly. I’ve been responding to lot of actually homophobic people and I thought you were agreeing with them. As members of the 🏳️🌈 community we need to be standing for education not agreeing with the bigots.
@@carlycasper7884 again, I wasnt blaming the drag community, re read my original comment, and think about why you jumped the gun
@@tthomas8756 I jumped the gun because I have been genuinely brought to tears by the shit people have been saying in this comment section. They really needs to be turned off at this point. So much trauma has been brought up for me because of people’s responses.
Idk why people don’t understand that drag queens aren’t inherently sexual. Hell, even the drag queens I’ve seen at 18+ clubs aren’t more sexual than an Ariana Grande concert. I feel like the vast majority of drag is pretty PG
You have to admit a lot of those people aren’t very rational. They’re so worried about the children but if they’re own children came out as gay they’d have no problem kicking them out and disowning them, putting their own children at risk for a lot of inappropriate things to happen to them… I have more than a few lgbtq friends that were kicked out with just the clothes on their back at 15 and 16 left to fend for themselves by people that were always so worried what children were being exposed to…to then just have their own children exposed to dangerous situations that their children would not have exposed to if they were actually concerned instead of faking concern to mask their blatant homophobia…these types of people gives off the same energy as the governor’s wife who wanted to shoot Britney Spears for being inappropriate for children and receiving no backlash for that comment and Diane Sawyer acting like it was somehow Britney’s fault…
Kids don't think it's an issue or wrong until an adult tells them it is. They may have questions but they sometimes have questions about straight couples too...
Kids also don’t know lying, stealing, and all sorts of things are wrong either until they’re taught
I think people just need to use common sense. Only take your kids to drag shows billed as family friendly. That's literally it. No kids gonna be harmed seeing a man dress up as a woman, in the UK we traditionally have pantomime dames which are men usually with beards dressed as women, pantomimes are like interactive plays you go see at Christmas time, they're mainly for kids (though very fun for adults too) and these have been going on since long before homosexuality was accepted in Britain. Somehow generations of children have managed to be unharmed by seeing a man in women's clothes. Most male British actors have even played women at some point so long as they went to an acting school.
What the fuck is "family friendly" about men dressing up as women and prancing in the street?
But thats the thing: Republicans think seeing a man dressed as a woman itself is harmful for children. Thats why they want to ban it. Arguing if it has adult stuff in it is not helping because they think the concept itself is sexual, degenerate and harmful for kids.
You’re asking conservatives to have common sense they don’t even know what that is lol
To a normal person tho yeah that’s obvious
I used to go to them every year and I always looked forward to them.
@@soupy55 As a non-conservative, I can tell you that we are not all extremists. Tons of Dems are moving to this state because it is awesome. I don't agree with this ban or the ban they tried to push for abortion including birth control and condoms. We really shouldn't generalize people's views because we aren't all extremists.
Remember, these moralists are the same people okay with parents putting their 2-year-old daughters in beauty pageants but think two men holding hands is Dangerous For The Chillllldrennnn to Seeeeee.
I was watching Rupaul's Drag Race the other day. My 6 year old twins came in the room to watch with me. They've never seen it before. I explained they were men dressed as women to entertain people.
My daughter also asked why they weren't really singing. My son said that they were really pretty!
People need to read the instructions on the show, if it says don't bring your children, then don't.
It's not the drag show's fault
It's the parents
I saw many kids at drag bingo. They were enjoying the party atmosphere
dude, i wouldve loved to go!
I still would prefer these shows not being in schools.
Yeah please. Name one.
They're always homeschooling
@@mork4971 eerie Colorado elementary school
@@nemeceka Austin texas
@@mork4971 east harem elementary in New York
Heck..I’m 56 & even I want to do my makeup like them!! Lol
I’m 50 and I think it would be so much fun to do my makeup like that. 😂😂😂
Go for it!
So a Drag Queen reading a stories to children, which I’m sure was full of dramatic flair, the characters coming to life, and wonderful storytelling is heinous, but crazies storming the building locking exits, using slurs, and terrifying children is OK? Better than that, it’s the morally right thing to do? That’s what they think? Make that make sense to me, please anyone? We know that there are adult drag shows, we also know that things can be toned down for children. Most adults would never ever be comfortable with doing something distasteful in front of children, that includes Drag Queens. I know several Queens and none of them would ever even consider doing anything other than something fun and cute to perform for children.
It can be whimsical, funny, with singing and dancing. So much pomp and pageantry the kids would love it. It’s a fairytale fantasy come to life.
Parents bringing their children to an adult drag show is the problem; it is not the Drag Queens. It makes them just as uncomfortable as it makes us. Blame it on the parents not on those beautiful talented Queens
This is unreasonable and wrong. If those men want to read to children, they can put on normal clothes and be generous expressive readers, without exposing children to this ludicrous sexual subculture. If it's about the book they clearly don't need some absurd distraction. If they want to dress up so bad they can put on a play for the children and dress up as the characters, but they won't because drag is not about and for the kids it is for sexualizing all these areas of public life. It is sexual grooming and needs to stop.
I would consider this just theatre regardless of what gender is dressing as what gender. Children do not belong at real drag shows. Drag shows are highly sexual and that's the fun of the expirience- for adults.
Yes, but it is still drag theater. When you refer to drag as a whole being inappropriate for children you are homophobic.
As a drag performer, I just wanna say, thank you... And yes, there is age appropriate drag... We tend to not do club style (18-21+) drag in areas it isn't appropriate... Most of us know better, and have the ability to adjust according to the audience. We're just out here being Disney princesses & princes anyway. People need to look deeper into the art, before making assumptions.
Great, but I've seen some drag shows that were advertised as family friendly then someone came out with fake boobs with nipple tassels. I'm not sure if I'd risk bringing my children.
As long as the Content of the show, costumes, (like the ones they wore were you went) and location are appropriate for children then I think it would actually be a really fun thing for kids to do. ❤
The drag show I saw had kids pretending to strip and people were giving him money...... no way in he'll
what the fuck drag show is that? No drag queen I know would let a child on stage lmao
I don't believe you
@@joellongworth3097 you can look the video up.... it was played in the news, well the news that cared to report it.
Yeah I don't watch Newsmax. Or fox. Or msnbc. Or CNN.
@@mmly7143 Is watching that one video the only exposure to drag you have ever had?
Thank you! I’m a drag performer, and all of this stuff going around lately has been ramping up my already bad anxiety ❤
Been to a couple drag shows. Those men AND women are absolutely amazing!
Bruh why they taking kids to 18+ shows anyway? Tf blame the parents.
Basically, drag shows are OTT for the most part. It really depends on the sexuality part of it and how much kids understand. It should be at the parents discretion.
Some parents don't have common sense, and take their kids to adult shows. Or they're sick ass MF'S who are getting a rise out of watching their kids in what should be an adult only environment. I'm not talking about shows like the one he's showing, but the ones that have breasts exposed, extremely sexualized moves or having little kids taking dollars from adults while on stage..🤢. Believe me, kids will remember something like that. I remember a lot of things that were traumatic experiences when I was 3 and a few months before I turned 3yrs.
I was actually for the ban, but after a conversation with my wife about what attending a drag show with our own children would have meant.. I came to realize I was wayyy overthinking it.
Most people aren’t malevolent..
accidentally inappropriate is possible, but these queens aren’t trying to sexualize kids.
They just want to show kids that being different doesn’t mean your not a human. We all wake up and put our pants/fishnets on one leg at a time.
Yeah, but unfortunately, with any group of people there's good and bad ones. It's the bad ones that are causing the issues. Exposing themselves in front of small children, etc. When it's supposed to be family friendly. There's always going to be that ONE MF who ruins it for the whole group.
Hahahah, I was scared he would say something dumb. Because the last two shorts of him were really lovely.
Had a guy harass me online for two weeks straight because I dared to make the comment that a drag show the news was claiming had “children in attendance” didn’t actually have children in attendance, the audience was all late teens early 20s (I.e. all 18+ but still kinda young). Turned out I was right (the news outlet pulled the story upon finding out everyone in attendance was 18+) but the guy still accused me of being a groomer and a pedophile and all these other nasty things… the ironic part is I was 16 at the time, the guy claimed to be in his 30s. All because I said that even if it was for kids, they weren’t actually doing anything inappropriate, just dancing, and everyone was just mad they were educating people about respecting gender identities.
Interesting. Honestly, the videos I’ve been seeing with children there have been the ones where it should be categorised as 18+ attendees only. I see both perspectives tbh. Glad to hear the whole family had fun.
Right. I have no problem if it is actually family friendly. But the ones where kids shouldn't be and are being forced are just wrong.and it does exist we've all seen plenty of videos showing it. But who cares if a man wants to dress as a lady and preform.let them live their best life too. I've watched quite a few shows and they seem like a lot of fun. I'd go and take my grandson as long as his parents were ok with it and it was family friendly. Just do your due diligence as a parent and make sure it's ok for kids. And if it actually isn't don't force them to be there. Glad they had a good time
This applies to literally anything. If you care about your kids you should make sure anything you take them to is family friendly. You shouldn’t just assume that because something has “Disney” in the title you can bring them or that something with Drag is inappropriate.
@@carlycasper7884 exactly. Basically just be aware and be good parents. It's not hard. And don't expect others to have the best intentions or interests when it comes to your children.
Such as? Like ffs this is purposely vague.
@@lindaperkins1394here were the kids forced? Im waiting.
Your kids, asking the really important questions 😆
The pantomime dame is a staple of British culture. Never questioned it
Awesome you said it yourself, "it was family friendly" most drag shows aren't. Also gonna be honest.. its weird asf to take your children specifically to a drag show. Like why? Even if it were a normal fashion show, why would you? I know they didn't ask to go, because they have no idea what it's for.
a lot of drag shows are family friendly, like a lot of performance based entertainment, different drag shows are geared towards different audiences. some kids wouldn’t ask to be taken to a play but they’re taken to them anyways, bringing your children to a live, family friendly, entertainment act (especially one that caters to children) isn’t that outrageous..
@@soopdadoop a drag show doesn't cater to a child. A drag show is used to express one's gender identity. Taking a child to a drag show only has one purpose, to expose them to different sexualities. You take a child to a play to expose them to performing arts. Same reason you take them to a baseball game, or a football game, or hell even a Saturday night bowling trip. You take them to expose them to these things as a 'happy pastime' or to get them intrested in the subject. Why do we need our 7 year olds exploring sexuality and gender identity?
@@budgetbuilt8838 Honestly, your entire argument falls Apart once you realize that drag isn't trans, this has nothing to do with gender or sexuality, this is literally just about the showmanship
@@yunogasai3350 what? I never mentioned trans, you assume trans. And yes, it has everything to do with gender and sexuality. A simple Google of "what's a drag show" would prolly fuckin tell you that. You say it's about 'showmanship' but about what? Sexuality and gender identity. It's that simple.
@@budgetbuilt8838I’m not taking advice on “being smart” from someone who can’t event spell like they finished middle school.
USUALLY they are DRESSED PROVATIVELY. thats why. They were originally in a strip club, and they usually play in bars. Usually you see alot more skin than the ones that are actually family friendly. Its ok if they dress ok.
I've been to some ranchy drag shows
So like anything... It can be sexual but isn't INHERENTLY sexual...
Wowww it's almost like you discovered what the meaning of "there's a time and a place for (blank)"
"Family Friendly" is the key
Oh no! Not CONFETTI?!?!?!
Love that sarcasm
The confetti got me 😂
Once my cousin (6) saw me drawing a fanart of (insert dramatic music) a gay couple kissing!
The conversation went like
Her: what are you doing?
Me: drawing
Her: are thet kissing?
Me: yeah
Her: they're both boys
Me: that's right
Her: why are they kissing?
Me: because they're in love
Her: so they're gay?
Me: yes
Her: ok
I don't think I traumatized her. Probably her "traditional family supporter" father did when he runned away with his mistess (or at least I think he did he won't tell his own mother and sister where he's living)
Nah, drag queens aren't gonna be a part of my sons childhood.
I love when people put the real events up so that others actually see what goes on. It's craaaazyyyy what people will believe goes on when they have NEVER seen a drag show in their lives in the first place, much less one that is family friendly. Draq Queens are performers, and they put on amazing shows! I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't enjoy something like this.
I do not care what anyone says. I WILL be taking my child to a drag show. (obviously family friendly) But yeah idc what ppl say. Start a fight do it i couldn’t care less.
It’s a shame you aren’t actually talking about the tons of other videos of what should obviously be adult only drag shows that kids are at and giving money to these drag queens barely dressed.
Drag shows are a form of adult entertainment. It’s not for children and should never be for children.
Drag queens are literally if clowns were combined with princesses. It's just people that wanna dress so feminine it's goofy and entertain people. If you can name any specific drag events where children were actually put in danger of these horrible, nondescript, lascivious acts, please do! I'd love to see your sources because I've seen none in my years in the community.
@@loatist do you deem this child friendly?
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I feel like you’re referencing that one picture that’s of a little girl putting money into the underwear of a cis woman
She wasn’t a drag queen or king, that was a cis woman
Drag can be family friendly. We have pantomimes in the uk and traditionally the lead female role is taken by a male. Usually a straight or gay TV personality but the kids and adults love it. There's a big difference between enjoying it in a setting meant for children and a nightclub setting.
Exactly, historically speaking, high heels were for men, wigs, "skirts", and women weren't allowed to be actors in some countries so the female characters were played by men.
As with anything since the beginning of time.... There's always going to be that ONE MF who ruins it for everyone else. Unfortunately, all "drag" shows or anything that can be considered drag shows will probably eventually be outlawed.
This guy knows damn well that a lot of drag shows that minors attend are xxx rated. If he or anyone says otherwise they’re in complete denial.
But why? Were the playgrounds closed or something?
Because exposing kids to different types of people helps with empathy and prevents them from turning into bigots.
@@unscmistressgaming1132 i do not want my children to grow up thinking that drag is normal. It’s not.
I don’t even get what it is, but it’s absurd and it’s a choice and not everyone has to agree that there is anything good about it.
They probably heard you were in the area.
@@Winterbaby1977thank goodness we don’t ever have to worry about you contributing to the gene pool.
@@wajmgirl well.. I have 6 kids so not only am i contributing to the gene pool, but I’m destroying the planet as well.
we just gonna look past the ones in pre schools where they're half naked??? havent seen anyone have problems w drag in general it's the ones where there's clearly a crime being committed that ppl have a problem with
…idk what kind of drag shows ur watching but i doubt that they take place in..pre-schools….
Sources?
If the older ones were normal or represented honestly, they'd have been asking actually difficult questions.
Not like you’d be able to answer them anyway.
@@wajmgirl that's true. It's all a bit too unpleasant to fathom.
if you’re a parents it is your responsibility to double check if what you’re bringing your kids to is family friendly it has nothing to do with the drag queen they didn’t make you go
Nothing against drag shows but why the need to kidify what's essentially adult entertainment has panto died out or has it just been rebranded as family drag shows?
Drag at its core is just overperformance of gendered stereotypes/expressions. That’s not inherently sexual by any means. It can be made sexual because so can gender expressions, but the only reason it’s been marketed mainly to adults for so long is because this whole “think of the children” virtue signaling is not a new scare tactic whatsoever.
@@fionatastic0.070 umm no, drag definitely started as adult entertainment, I've attended quite a few over the years. Pantomime is also an over exagerration of gender, just in fairytale settings, but don't hear so much about those these days. Genuinely curious if family drag shows are intended to be a modern replacement as was not something I ever thought would go mainstream.
@@angeltangle generally the more family friendly ones seem to just be more about expression and performance, like the difference between dancing and... well "exotic" dancing
@@echo8933 my question wasn't about the difference, my question is why - miscomprehension isn't an answer.
@@angeltangle Drag started as part of voguing, theatre, and other types of performance associated with the queer community. It wasn’t necessarily sexual to start with. It developed that way over time as queer people were erased from historical teachings and so people didn’t learn about being queer until adulthood. It’s probably marketed as drag and not pantomime because Americans aren’t often familiar with what that is.
My son saw a guy wearing a dress. He looked at him then at me multiple times. I just told him the truth, some guys like wearing wearing women's clothes.
And some also want others to pander to their delusion that they are a real woman.
Literally that simple let people live their lives because it doesn’t affect you in anyway. I’m glad you’re teaching your son that
@@carlycasper7884 _"it doesn’t affect you in anyway"_
This excuse is exactly why society is sliding into the toilet. "They just want to marry who they want, they aren't hurting anyone" and next thing they are sexualising kids and teaching them that the white ones are evil oppressors. You are an enabler, you should feel bad about yourself but you don't because you don't have the self awareness.
@@ferrumignis Wow racist too, I’m so shocked 😮
@@carlycasper7884 _"Wow racist too"_
I'm not shocked that someone like you would screech about racism where none exists. It's all too predictable these days Miss Smollett.
It’s the confetti for me. Lol. I’ll pass 🎉😂
Real question is why drag queens want to be around your kids all the time.
Why do we need family friendly versions of adult entertainment?
Exactly this. Exposing young kids to the kinks that some adults have is fundamentally wrong. Shows just how broken our society is that this even exists, let alone having people praise it.
I wouldn’t consider it “adult entertainment” but that’s beside the point. The reason we need family friendly versions of these shows is so children can be exposed to different lifestyles/cultures and learn not to fear them. Most of the time people hate the things they fear which just creates violence. Anti-Black racism came from the stereotypes that black people are inherently violent or criminal. And homophobia comes from the stereotype that we are inherently sexual. Which is why you hear things like “I just don want my kids exposed to that” or “You can do it behind closed doors but not in front of me” No one is born with hate in their hearts it is just put on us by society.
@@ferrumignis Drag is not a kink. There is nothing sexual about it unless it is a show intended to be sexual. In that case, it’s your fault if you bring your kid there.
@@carlycasper7884 _"different lifestyles/cultures"_
You are talking about sexual deviancy, so just call it what it is. The fact you want to have children exposed to this makes you a groomer.
@@carlycasper7884 _"There is nothing sexual about it"_
That is a straight up lie, why are you so dishonest?. Just check out the videos of some of the drag story time events, those people are dressed in an extremely sexually provocative manner.
I guess I just don’t understand the push for this. It’s bizarre.
its fun?
@M I A that's why it's around. quit whining because other people have toys like you
to expose kids to different kinds of people so they can develop empathy instead of turning into people like you
Push? It's an optional event. No-one's being forced at gunpoint to watch a drag show. You can simply choose not to go.
@M I A yes and? its creative self expression? just because you think its dumb doesnt mean its dumb to others.
Confetti! That is just about the worst thing your kids could want outside of glitter! 🤣
I'm the child of a gay man and had the pleasure of living with 3 gay men, 2 were drag queens. I saw their costumes and wigs and helped them care for it. However, they made it explicitly clear that drag shows are x rated adult entertainment and I was never allowed to attend a single show because I was a minor. I am blessed to have experienced well balanced respectful drag queens.
This is what we're talking about, setting understand boundaries and I'm assuming they weren't dressed up around you for the most part.
People don't mind regulated safe drag shows, they mind when there are drag shows near children and are performed by known sex offenders pesos and etc.
Good on you.
Why would you want your kids to watch a draf show? Seriously.
What is the motivation behind this? I just fail to see
There was a family friendly drag show at a local pub in the middle of the day. Church groups set up on the courthouse lawn across the street with bullhorns yelling about how everyone there was going to hell 😂
Exactly! Ever notice how they’re actually the ones traumatizing children?
My church actually went to a drag show once….to enjoy the show not to hate.
It was actually ran by a different church and the people who did it was like 3 drag Queen and 2 drag kings. It was so much fun!
The little rainbow dress is adorable
I'm fine with them banning them period.
Agreed, it can only be a positive benefit to society.
Please then ban all churches as well. Kids actually get groomed and sexually assaulted in them. I don't hear some of you talk about that. Wonder why?
“Yeah! Me, my wife, her boyfriend, and their kids had a great time”
his boyfriend
I’m glad everyone had a good time!
I'm so glad my daughter never had to ask those questions
Yay! Love taking my kids to drag shows at pride. I of course take them to age appropriate ones, just like I take them to se age appropriate movies and concerts. So we've seen our fair share of Elsa and Olaf / baby shark / Mulan/ Moana drag shows and it was awesome.
One of the most wholesome things you can remember is men satisfying their sexual fetishes in public around your children? These are grown adults, they can do whatever they want behind the privacy of closed doors with other consenting adults, but exposing children to it is absolutely wrong.
They are not sexual fantasies. Men like to dress up for fun. Children are not influenced by it at all. It doesn’t make them gay because people have always been gay. It doesn’t traumatize them as you can see by how much fun his kid had. So what’s your actual problem? My guess is that you just hate gay people.
Imagine being so unintelligent that you think drag is a sexual fetish... lollllll
@@thedanceshack16 huh I guess all the drag queens which are coming out and saying this is horrific and not to do it because it is 100% a sexual fetish must be lying. You'll need better bait
@@TD-ug4mg that's because those are performers who only perform for adults. But drag is alive in every pantomime ever and that's purely a family event. It's almost like there's no rule that covers everything because people do different things huh
And tbh it might be a fetishism fir some, but for most it's simply a job tbh
Yes, please ban public drag shows.
No one is making you go to them.
Wait, puke you even be allowed in a +18 event?
Wait til they're 20-25 & look back realizing what you exposed them to.
Yeah, lip sincing is terrifying, complete lack of talent in my opinion
I can understand not bringing kids to a drag show meant for adults, because those have more lewd costumes and movements, but family friendly shows there is literally nothing wrong with it
I love this.🥺
YO YOUR SON JUST READ THEM ALL-
I think the ban is meant for the shows where they are scantily dressed and dancing inappropriately. Drag shows were not originally intended for children, so they typically have sexual undertones or even very obviously sexual. People really need to stop bringing up the exception and realized it's based on the rule.
"NoOoO I dont want my kids to like glitter and see people express themselves"
That's how I imagine people who want to ban this stuff lmao
That’s pretty sad if that’s one of your most wholesome days
How is that sad? They had fun. Fun isn't sad it's happy.
how? they literally had fun and the kids enjoyed it.
@@lunarcorpse Do you not know what a drag show is?
@@wooms4643 Drag shows aren't wholesome. They're overtly sexual in nature. You wouldn't call a family friendly strip club "wholesome" would you?
@@tannermaynard5991 how the fuck is it sexual?? its literally men in a shit ton of makeup and cool clothes. the name STRIP CLUB implies REMOVING CLOTHING. gadamn, mfs cant think these days
Hey... like they say... "It's not gonna lick itself"
???
That show got that sign from an ice cream parlor
And I thought the difficult questions were going to be "Can we get icecream?" or "Can we get Mcdonald's?"
We got burgers at home
I love the "don't tell me how to raise my child" yet they force everyone else to do what THEY want
Kids only think something is weird if they see you acting like it's weird.
But it is wierd, so thinking it's wierd is the correct action.
Toddlers tipping drag strippers by putting dollar bills in their panties, while their parents watch and clap, is fucking weird. The whole children, drag issue is a LOT bigger than a family friendly dress up in the park. Teenage girls are told to cover up their bra straps in school because it’s distracting but a male teacher can come to a facility built for minors, wearing comically large rubber breasts, and it’s called INCLUSIVE. one day, we will all look back on this time period and fucking throw up.
@@ferrumignis it's just drag, it's only as wierd as something like theatre or panto
@@abithefallenhuman921 As I have said before, just look at some of the drag story time videos, they are NOT like panto, and some of these freaks have already been found to be on sex offenders register.
@@ferrumignis I'm going to assume you have sources before you throw out accusation like that
That’s fantastic that they were dressed. It definitely wasn’t the drag shows of the night clubs❤
My thoughts EXACTLY 💯
But you know with republicans the wording is going to be so vague that it allows for “innocent” people like the one at this family friendly shows to be negatively affected
Also I don’t think people are doing the night club show around kids would it be stripping hence already 18 but probably 21+ cause they serve liquor
So idk just seems pointless
What kids are getting into nightclubs lol? If you take your kids to nightclubs, YOUR'RE the issue, not the shows themselves lol.
I wish I went to drag shows. when I was a kid!
One of my favorite things in this world is confetti because sparkly
I'm sorry but drag is proven in psychology as a sexually deviant behaviour, so no drag is not appropriate for children. Drag shows 9/10 are burlesque and that is an intentionally sexually provocative form of dance. As a survivor of childhood sexual abuse, I see it as no different to intentionally exposing a child to pornography.
I am in school for psychology wtf are you talking about??😂
Also sorry that you were abused and I hope you are feeling better and got the help you need but don’t use your abuse to justify being ignorant.
Um that is not the point.
Drag shows are often vulger and sexual in nature. So no, kids should not attend.
Dude just spend two seconds googling if the show you plan on going to is family friendly or not. It's on you if you don't do that research, not the other people there.
@@speedartandmore why are family friendly drag shows even a thing? Isn't that like a family friendly lap dance? Why are we taking something clearly meant for adults, and trying to convert it into children's entertainment? The only reason I can think of is to try and blur the lines. If some drag shows are OK for kids, suddenly there is a grey area between what's child friendly and what's not. We've got G, PG, PG13 and R rated drag shows, so we can ease the kids into getting lap dances in gay strip clubs. I believe they call that grooming.
@@austinveno6743 you are conflating drag with burlesque. I used to have the same mindset as you. I went to one and it was a tribute to a late singer. That was it. The drag was was never inappropriate to children at all. You think this way because you’re primed to think that anything related to being lgbt or gender nonconformity is inherently hyper sexual when it is not.
Me and my roommate were actively planning to go to a dragshow for the Xmas holidays and if it wasn’t shut down due to Covid-19, we would’ve had the time of our lives.
His ability to bring his thought process from the shallow to the deep is missing
For anyone defending the "family friendly" drag shows just need to watch clips of what happens there to see why it's oxymoronic. Keep kids away from adult entertainers.
You're right, lip syncing is a terrible thing to show to children
Sounds like someone got confetti in their twisted tea and wants to make it everyone’s problem.
This looks like a play not a drag show
Well they are in drag. So, even though it’s the same as any other play for children people considered it sexual. It’s insane. No one is taking their children to 18+ drag shows.
I don't think they'd be complaining if it was just family friendly
Consider this, people complain about gay couples kissing because it's "corrupting the children", people say shooter games are the reason for school shootings, so how likely is it for the same people to see something objectively family friendly that they think is wrong and then complain about it?
Drag shows and“ family-friendly” // 2+2= 5
I can understand maybe if there was a whole lot of suggestive and/or straight up sexual things happening right around them, but clearly there wasn't anything wrong here. God forbid we actually educate children about other types of people so that they don't go treating others as if they're weird just for being honest with themselves and being able to be who they truly are. I wish I would've been taught more how to be there for friends who might be struggling with their sexuality, cause even as a straight man, I've asked my own personal questions about my own sexuality, and I feel like that's a very healthy battle to have within yourself, as long as people are educated about it and don't go around treating people like garbage when they already probably feel vulnerable or alone or misunderstood.
I don’t really understand how a drag queen is a “different type of person”… it’s not like they are trans or anything.. they are just a performer, right?
@@Winterbaby1977 that's right, drag isn't trans people
But let's be honest, not ever man wears a skirt or a dress, so it's definitely a different type of getup, no?
@@yunogasai3350 sure
But is it ok if I find it disturbing, or no?
@@Winterbaby1977 well, do you find it disturbing if Chris Pratt gains ten pounds to play a role?
@@yunogasai3350 not really.
But I do find the sight of a man dressed up with big boobs and sparkly dresses and makeup disturbing to look at. I cringe. And I especially don’t like the look of them spending time with children, even if they are toned down and not spouting off sexual innuendo at the kids.
It’s just not for me.
Other things not for me
-porn
-promiscuity
-sexually explicit music
-twerking
You might just call me a run of the mill prude.
What a pitiful parent
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@@carlycasper7884 😁😁😁
@@carlycasper7884 I've been seeing you around in the comments, you're great the way you are! A lot of people will be rude to you for trying to teach acceptance, don't let that get you down! Every comment I've seen from you put a smile on my face, seeing you try this hard to teach about acceptance when people are just assholes to you! Keep being awesome!
@@yunogasai3350 Thank you so much! It was getting really frustrating and this comment made me feel so much better 🥰
@@carlycasper7884 I'm glad ya felt better, that's amazing then! Also goddamn, 5:30am, truly the best time to argue with homophobic people, ain't it?
Yes! Seriously! I recently was watching Trixie Mattel talk about drag shows and how they're literally just singing and dancing and having fun. Kids aren't judging that. Kids just want to have fun with them. There's no indoctrination. People honestly think drag queens care about your children to the point where they would want to change them? That's just paranoia.
Ig i'm not mistaken trixie mattel has always stated children should not be at drag events
My 5yo son wants to do make up when he sees it on me or when I watch RuPaul's drag race
I think the issue is the ones that are mis advertised as family friendly when they aren't there are adult ones the should have a rating like movies since family friendly can mean different things it's too vague for a rating
More like the actual groomers are projecting in their way to the latest rnc meeting
I grew up watching pantomimes and the whole thing is basically a family friendly drag show . We have schools taking the students to watch them as a Christmas treat. They have pantomimes in church halls over here in the UK. They are fun and enjoyable .
Pantomimes are one thing, but have you seen the videos of some of the drag queen kids events? Highly sexualised, and some of these sickos have been outed as child molesters. It's the perfect setup for them to get close to kids.
Bro I want confetti like that
Cool argument but easily beaten by looking up the other shows 😂
I'm so glad you had a good experience that was actually wholesome and family friendly, but they're not all like that.
Lol, of course not. Just like movies, plays, and books, lots of drag shows are only appropriate for adults. But they’re not trying to trick people. If someone is unsure whether a show is family friendly, then they can ask. Just like they would for any piece of media.
I’m sure that A Serbian Film would traumatize children, but that doesn’t mean that we need a law banning children from watching all movies. This whole panic is a huge overreaction.
@@KO-vb4tg It seems like an overreaction when you're looking at just drag shows. But you have to look at everything going on in this sphere right now.
It is not just this one thing. It is what's happening in schools, online, in hospitals, within certain state governments. It's a lot of things adding up to paint a picture that looks scary to certain parents.
@@AmericanWoman90 mkay, but the laws are about this one thing. That’s totally harmless if parents take an ounce of initiative and responsibility for the media they let their kids consume.
Look, I sympathize that raising kids right now is probably scary. But this is superrrr misdirected. It’s just a silly show, it’s literally not that deep.
@@KO-vb4tg man, I'm finally glad someone seems to get it. Like parents need to be parents and stop blaming everything else around it.
Or choose not to have kids, but some of them weren't really planned to be had so...I guess it's the government's fault their kids are consuming toxic media, whatever they think toxic means.
Are you stating basic facts because you are unintelligent or you think everyone else is?