I love how Joshua just wore some police armor and casual wear and was a Legate, while Lanius is the most stereotypical looking warrior with the mask as a cherry on top.
@@frankhorrigan1508 no, go look at his backstory being foretold, he wore it as a legate, and even moments before being throw into the canyon. You see his blonde, shaggy hair, but never his face.
He was in his prime when he was with the legion and apparently just as ruthless as lanius For someone that came from a mormon community this guys mercilessness is surprising
Normal man is questionable. I think in the files he does more damage than a sniper rifle with his pistol and he has the highest Damage Threshold compared to any other character. And the NCR sniped him 5 times during the 1st battle of the Hoover Dam, he was in Boulder City when it exploded, survived being set on fire and thrown into the Grand Canyon, and then walked back to Utah on his own. I don't think he is a normal man at this point.
I love how Ulysses' perspective on Graham is uniquely _his_ to have. I can't help but feel as if Ulysses was written here as to compare Joshua to both Ulysses and the Courier; all three were "broken" to some degree, and all three managed in the aftermath to find home, whatever that means for them. For Graham, it's Zion, for the Courier, it's Vegas, and for Ulysses, it's the Divide. To Ulysses, home isn't necessarily your birthplace, but a place you can breath life into and know who you are. It's fitting to describe Graham's personal redemption by these terms - he might be permanently damaged by his baptism by fire, but when he's at home with the tribals in Zion, and can foster and protect them, keeping the spirit of Randall Clark alive, he's breathing life into Zion. And by sparing Salt-Upon-Wounds following the defense of Zion, and recognizing his emotions in a more personal and introspective matter, he more truly grows to understand who he is, and to move beyond his present existence of hatred and desire for revenge. To let go, and begin again.
I think it has something to do with the game engine making it difficult to add things to existing characters from dlc. But I like the reason Graham gives, Ceasar's head is too far up his ass to ever admit he failed to kill him the first time plus however many frumentarii he sent. And the rest of the legion follows so blindly that except for a few people most believe he is dead simply because Ceasar said so.
@@davidteachout1888 Caesar knows he's alive. That's why he sent frumentarii to find him. He's not the type of person to send troops after ghosts. Even when talking about him, he suggests you "end the conversation" i think if you mentioned him, he would have told you "what? Why didn't you kill him?" and then attack you for knowing, and if you didn't, would have simply said "Well, now i must kill you for knowing that he's alive, too many loose ends, our partnership ends here" and also attack you.
it'd be a nice touch if wearing joshua graham's armor (it's a gift in the footlocker at the end of Honest Hearts) or carrying the scripture led to some special dialogue with legion members, maybe even some kind of slave revolt now that they know the Burned Man is still alive
I was always confused about that since he continues to wear "his" outfit too...does he have multiple copies of it? Are we canonically NOT supposed to have that outfit? 🤪
You people are silly. It's perfectly fine to say "Joshua Graham" since that's not his legion name. What most people, other than hardcore fans, don't realize is that Joshua's TRUE name, his "forbidden" name, is Malpais.
It always tilts me when Ceasar talks us down in the vanilla game, even though out character single handely screwed his best soldiers and can easily tear the whole camp apart. I wish there was a way to talk back to him other than the one terrifying presence dialogue
@@SzajKornik its funny whenever the npc talk down on you or even attempt to backstab you while you're fully kitted with a T-45B power armor with an automatic rocket launcher
What I love about Joshua Graham as a video game character is that he's just a human. no super powers, no magic, no divine intervention. He survived being set on fire AND thrown into the Grand Canyon, and people have every reason to believe that he shouldn't physically be alive.
Joshua had his skin melted off his body, his bones broken from the fall, and still walked on shattered legs 400 Miles over 3 months back to New Canaan. He only lived by Divine intervation. "I survived because the fire inside me burned brighter than the fire around me. I fell into that chasm, but the flame burnt on and on. The fire that had kept alive was love, their love, God's love.' Joshua HIMSELF states that he only survived because God forgave him, and gave him a chance to atone for all the sins he had commited. Joshua only lived because God saw in him a chance to repent and find forgiveness
I like how Ulysses response is "Uh.... yeah Ceasar wanted me to kill him but... uh... I just didn't... because l... uh... I didn't want too! Yeah...I totally could have though..."
I took his “Never tried. Could have. No good would come of it” as meaning “I could have tried, but I know it would’ve been a waste of effort” rather than “I could have killed him but chose not to”
It's a bit of a shame they didn't give Caesar more dialogue in Graham considering no one was closer to him than Caesar. A speech check at least would have been nice to hear his perspective on Graham.
[Speech 100] "Surely you of all people have some type of knowledge on The Burned Man." [FAILED] "I'm done talking to you, get out of my tent and do what I asked of you before I order my Praetorians to hang you to a cross." [SUCCESS] "Alright, I admit, I knew him better than anyone else at the camp, but I refuse to speak about this publicly. Come back later tonight, I will order all my Praetorians out of the tent. There, we can speak about this matter in private." *Later that night.* "You were seeking information on The Burned Man, correct? I will share this information with you, but if you tell anyone, ally or not, about this, I will make sure you never see the light of day. Got that?" "Yes." "Good. Now that we're clear on the consequences of sharing this information, I will tell you what I know about Joshua Graham, or better known as The Burned Man. Joshua was a religious man me and my partner came across in New Canaan, back before we were the Legion. We were Followers of the Apocalypse at the time, looking to help those in need. Graham wanted to spread the word of God to the tribals, and we hesitated to bring him along, but his intellect on the tribals' way of speaking swayed us to do so. We went into Arizona to help some of the locals with Graham as a guide. We encountered a small tribe near Phoenix. They were timid of us at first, but eventually welcomed us with open arms as if we were one of their own. After a week or two of staying with them, a rival tribe came over and threatened to wipe out everyone if they didn't hand over supplies. Graham was slow to anger and quick to forgive, but he was by no means a pushover in combat. Graham convinced the rival tribe their scavengers were out looking and to come back in a few days. In the meantime, he trained some of the men in the tribe to become fierce warriors, while me and my partner taught the women the art of medicine. When the rival tribe returned, Graham and his warriors ambushed the tribe, wiping out their entire raiding force and going to their camp to capture prisoners, take supplies, and kill any who resisted. Graham and his warriors got a taste for battle after that, while I led the assaults. Slowly, we conquered more tribes, took more prisoners, and our numbers swelled. We were no longer a tribe at that point, we were the Legion." "What happened to Graham after that?" "As we advanced Westward, we came across the Desert Rangers. They were skilled in combat, but we had more numbers. One of the Rangers we killed had a map with X around New Vegas. Graham gave the map to me, and I knew that is where I wanted my capital to reside. As we approached Hoover Dam, our scouts spotted what we now know is the NCR. We tried to tell them to leave at first, yet they didn't listen. Negotiations broke down, and soon small fights began to break out between NCR Rangers and our scouts. Neither side wanted to take the blame, and negotiations broke down even more. Eventually, we stopped communicating with each other entirely as our forces clashed in bigger and bigger battles, until it was decided we were at war with each other. I came up with a plan to attack Hoover Dam, with Graham and his forces leading the charge. The attack was a success, we had the dam, yet Graham followed the weakened NCR into Boulder City, where a trap had been laid and he walked right into it. His forces were crushed, none left, and Graham barely managed to escape across the dam back into the camp. I was furious, and took Graham personally to the Grand Canyon, where I ordered him to be covered in pitch, set on fire, and thrown into the canyon. After a few days, I returned to see Graham's burnt, mangled corpse at the base of the canyon, but all I saw was burnt clothing and torn up bandages. I've sent frumentarii out looking for him since, but they have yet to find anything." "So do you think Graham is still alive?" "It's hard to believe Graham walks to this day, but I have no other explanation for it. I doubt the tribals took him in, and I doubt even more that they could keep Graham alive. If he were to still be alive, it'd be by his own hand."
Caesar doesnt want people to talk about it because he essentially ended up burning and tossing his buddy and knows that if Joshua is alive, hes gonna come back with a vengeance and kill him
Same. Real weird to have your persona pal talk to you about the wasteland. Weirder since his voice is so recognisable to see him voice characters across all factions
Joshua has actually effective armor, not a bunch of cosplay bs. And he also uses "inferior" guns. Lanius goes monkey mode and tries melee combat and Joshua shoots him dead. End.
@@PolishGod1234What? I saw a video of the two fighting and the guy turned off Lanius immortality and it ended with Joshua blowing up Lanius's head and walking away
I decided to kill Joshua in my Legion playthrough. Not a lot of reaction from anyone, Caesar was completely unphased by my character wearing Joshua's armor right in front of him. Disappointed
The most likely explanation is that they couldn't wrangle old VAs just to record a few extra lines for reaction, either due to time or money. The in -game explanation which actually makes very good sense is given by Ulysses who essentially says that for Caesar to acknowledge you killing Joshua would be to admit that Joshua survived the grand canyon; and to Caesar, that would be admitting that he failed.
@@hellpwn3391 but the thing is - Caesar _kinda_ knows that old Josh survived, hence why he sends his agents after him from time to time, one after another. I'm even convinced that he may have used the Whitelegs for the same purpose. But oh well, we've got what we've got, I guess
@Homer First time I played Honest Hearts with a Legion character, I took the opportunity to learn from former Legate Joshua as he was their best warrior. It was a "pet the dog" moment. The White Legs are not fit for Caesar's Legion and don't get integrated no matter what you do so looking down upon them is one way you can think about it and Joshua appreciates your help
2:52 Wait, did Caesar literally watch Joshua roll all the way down... Then get up and walk away? If so, no wonder he's got guys looking for Graham, and forbids his name being spoken! I don't care how badass you are, that would make any man soil his skirt. 😬
@@astrotrek3534prolly his basic instinct kicks in and he walked to safety subconsciously then passed out. There's several case similar like that irl afterall, some racing driver crashed out then subconsciously walk out to safety behind the guardrail then passed out until he was discovered by medical team.
I like how Ulysses' pessimism still bleeds into his outlook on how he think Joshua will live on, even though we can influence him to be more merciful and to move on from his rage.
Courier: Hey Caesar my man. I went to Zion and happened to learn that the burned man everyone's been talking about still alive. I went out of my way and took care of him. You were not so successful in regard to killing that mummy but you are now. I think you owe me one. Caesar: Praetorians, kill this asshole! Courier: ...What?
I feel like he has to already know. Joshua just went back to the Mormons-never really went into hiding. Hell, he and Daniel are missionaries, so he was practically going around announcing his presence by trying to convert people. There’s no way Caesar doesn’t already know.
I honestly can't imagine playing the game under Caesar's boot. I only just played FNV for the first time about 2 years ago and by the time I got to Caesar I was already super high level and had destroyed the BOS so I wasn't about to take shit from his old ass. After I activated the underground mainframe with the platinum chip I killed the entire Legion camp, then blew Benny's head off and as far as I'm concerned that was the end of my courier's story. House got what he wanted, I got my revenge on Benny so there was no reason to stick around in Nevada anymore. I like to imagine the Courier went off east into Colorado in search of more work.
I really wish that there would have been unique dialogue if you met Graham before you meet named legionaries. Say something like “Joshua Graham lives.” Kinda like how you can tell the Brotherhood and/or Institute about Acadia in Far Harbor. Either to ask for a reward to “slay the legend”, or to put just a bit more weight in their pants that a ghost of vengeance may come knocking.
Caesar needs to watch his damn tone. Besides the slavery and obviously horrible nature of the Legion, I can't abide working for a dick. *loads anti-materiel rifle with malicious intent*
I love how the mods make new vegas look so fresh and beautiful, even without mods I think Obsidian made a great work giving personality to the game, compared to Bethesda og Fallout games
He doesn't really agree with any faction anyway. He obviously hates the Legion. He views House as similar to Caesar becuase of how he handled the Three Families when they were tribes, but does remark "it's too bad." Fianlly he is pessimistic about NCR. He thinks they are better than the other two, but believes their leader's greed and corruption will tear them apart eventually. Graham isn't a Independent Vegas supporter either, he just doesn't care, which is understandable considering fighting for the Mojave scarred him the way it did, he just wants to stay out of it.
There’s rumours of a man who barely makes noise but he controls the courier via remote, little do many know there’s a multiverse of couriers in one universe it was said that he found infinity stones an sniffed them and in his universe yes man was snuffed as well as all figure heads and you think your universe is the best so far that courier has had children who time travel so that people start new games some say the camera man never dies I say the courier will live forever hail the courier and his iron nostrils that also sniffed the platinum chip.
Thats why Ulysses hesitated when he was tasked to kill Graham Ulysses: "No good would have come off it" It can be interpreted in many ways but it also can be interpreted as he knows he will lose thats why he hesitated.
Damn did Yuri Lowenthal (Sasuke Uchiha, Haseo, Yosuke Hanamura, Ben Tennyson, Simon the Digger, Suzaku Kururugi, the Prince of Persia, and more) voice like half the Legion in this game?
When was the last time any of you have played a game so enthralling, so.....stunning I cant remember This was it wasnt it The high point of story telling in a triple A game
I feel like the courier otho and Anthony would be great legions friends Going on adventure getting into trouble 😅😂 and otho would be the one friend with a stick up his butt always going on and on about rules this and rules that and he tries really hard to be cool but doesn't understand what cool is and hes a total daddy boy While Anthony is the one friend always looking for something fun to do 😜 like a puppy
"The Burned Man was our greatest warrior, even greater than Legate Lanius". The Legion obeys Lanius due to the fear he imposes among soldiers, however, even after "death", the same soldiers keep viewing Graham with respect. When it comes to icons or military forces, Lanius becomes strength, but Joshua becomes raw power.
Hanlon sent NCR elites to assassinate Graham 5x and still walk away from it. Thats like getting a death sentence 5x and surviving it all. No wonder all of the legion are scared shitless of Graham.
@@aspeckinthegrandschemeofth3457 Do you rly need speech for that? I remember that I sided with him at the end and fought off the ghouls without using any spech options
After various interactions with Lanius, i kinda think is god damm boring talk your way out of him *it's more interesting putting a nuke on his face while he fights g o d >:)*
I love how Joshua just wore some police armor and casual wear and was a Legate, while Lanius is the most stereotypical looking warrior with the mask as a cherry on top.
No... Graham wore that AFTER his fall in the dam
@@frankhorrigan1508 no, go look at his backstory being foretold, he wore it as a legate, and even moments before being throw into the canyon. You see his blonde, shaggy hair, but never his face.
They found Lanius' armor in a museum, a replica of some Greco-Roman armor. They likely didn't have it then
@@godlymoose9118 or didn't fit
@@godlymoose9118 Or Joshua shot the one that asked him to wear that gaudy thing so they didn't ask again.
I love that he’s a normal man but people think he’s some supernatural force. It goes to show how scary Joshua is when he’s angry
I don't remember what you have to do, but you can make Joshua angry at the point he'll start to pursue you, even after you apparently killed him.
@@Ivory5547thats a mod unfortunately
He was in his prime when he was with the legion and apparently just as ruthless as lanius
For someone that came from a mormon community this guys mercilessness is surprising
Kinda like Jin Sakai as the ghost.
Normal man is questionable. I think in the files he does more damage than a sniper rifle with his pistol and he has the highest Damage Threshold compared to any other character.
And the NCR sniped him 5 times during the 1st battle of the Hoover Dam, he was in Boulder City when it exploded, survived being set on fire and thrown into the Grand Canyon, and then walked back to Utah on his own.
I don't think he is a normal man at this point.
I love how Ulysses' perspective on Graham is uniquely _his_ to have.
I can't help but feel as if Ulysses was written here as to compare Joshua to both Ulysses and the Courier; all three were "broken" to some degree, and all three managed in the aftermath to find home, whatever that means for them. For Graham, it's Zion, for the Courier, it's Vegas, and for Ulysses, it's the Divide. To Ulysses, home isn't necessarily your birthplace, but a place you can breath life into and know who you are. It's fitting to describe Graham's personal redemption by these terms - he might be permanently damaged by his baptism by fire, but when he's at home with the tribals in Zion, and can foster and protect them, keeping the spirit of Randall Clark alive, he's breathing life into Zion. And by sparing Salt-Upon-Wounds following the defense of Zion, and recognizing his emotions in a more personal and introspective matter, he more truly grows to understand who he is, and to move beyond his present existence of hatred and desire for revenge. To let go, and begin again.
i took all the gold bars in dead money
hell yeah gamer
@@senatorarmstrong3836 carrying all that Gold "Nanomachines son".
I told joshua to kill that mf salt lmao
Can you write my essay for me? You seem pretty affluent 😂
Some of the slaves have been spreading stories of the Burned Man again.
Mothers says the rats in the basements are growing in numbers.
the legion slaves are hot
thats a voice line trust me
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes me wish for a nuclear winter.
Ah here we go again. Annoying af
"Hello"
One of the biggest let downs in fallout new vegas was not being able to tell ceasar or any other Legion member about Joshua Graham being alive.
I think it has something to do with the game engine making it difficult to add things to existing characters from dlc. But I like the reason Graham gives, Ceasar's head is too far up his ass to ever admit he failed to kill him the first time plus however many frumentarii he sent. And the rest of the legion follows so blindly that except for a few people most believe he is dead simply because Ceasar said so.
@@davidteachout1888 Caesar knows he's alive. That's why he sent frumentarii to find him. He's not the type of person to send troops after ghosts.
Even when talking about him, he suggests you "end the conversation" i think if you mentioned him, he would have told you "what? Why didn't you kill him?" and then attack you for knowing, and if you didn't, would have simply said "Well, now i must kill you for knowing that he's alive, too many loose ends, our partnership ends here" and also attack you.
@@davidteachout1888 that’s why the legion ending doesn’t make sense
only ending that makes sense is NCR ending
@@davidteachout1888 you can tell Veronica about Elijah’s fate in dead money after completion
Would be cool to have the possibilty to tell him as a terrifying presence dialogue
it'd be a nice touch if wearing joshua graham's armor (it's a gift in the footlocker at the end of Honest Hearts) or carrying the scripture led to some special dialogue with legion members, maybe even some kind of slave revolt now that they know the Burned Man is still alive
Boi the dialogue and reactions be hilarious
hoping some charitable modder can make this come true
I'd recommend Mormon 4:5 "It is by the wicked that the wicked are punished"
As long as having 3 int lets you say "BoooooOooooo I'm a ghost" to everyone.
I was always confused about that since he continues to wear "his" outfit too...does he have multiple copies of it? Are we canonically NOT supposed to have that outfit? 🤪
You said J---G---, I’m telling Caesar on you.
John Gacy
@@Icannothandleany bruh
Not If I tell Caesar you said it!
no cursing this is a legion server
You people are silly. It's perfectly fine to say "Joshua Graham" since that's not his legion name. What most people, other than hardcore fans, don't realize is that Joshua's TRUE name, his "forbidden" name, is Malpais.
0:41 Ah yes, "Burned Man". Toughest man who we have dealt with allegedly being alive and looking for him. We have dismissed that claim.
I should go
This kinda fits, given Joshua and Harbinger are both voiced by the same man.
I am going to destroy everything the council loves just to make them suffer
YESSSSSS
@@Ivory5547ALSO YESSSS
I deeply wish there was some way to agro the fort by teasing Ceasar about Joshua in the vanilla game.
it'd make a great Terrifying Presence dialouge option something like "Joshua Graham sends his regards"
It always tilts me when Ceasar talks us down in the vanilla game, even though out character single handely screwed his best soldiers and can easily tear the whole camp apart. I wish there was a way to talk back to him other than the one terrifying presence dialogue
@@solidsnaker1992 Mr. Sallow? The Burned Man sends their regards.
@@Ender_Zard *pulls out Joshua's pistol*
@@SzajKornik its funny whenever the npc talk down on you or even attempt to backstab you while you're fully kitted with a T-45B power armor with an automatic rocket launcher
"We don't really talk about him"
*Proceeds to talk about him in great detail*
Joshua was playing fallout 3, he saved just before hitting the ground, then loaded.
Seeing Vulpes without his headgear was a real jumpscare for me.
What I love about Joshua Graham as a video game character is that he's just a human. no super powers, no magic, no divine intervention. He survived being set on fire AND thrown into the Grand Canyon, and people have every reason to believe that he shouldn't physically be alive.
I think Joshua would argue you on the divine intervention part.
@@kimbertactpro9i can confirm that he would argue it was solely divine intevention
Joshua had his skin melted off his body, his bones broken from the fall, and still walked on shattered legs 400 Miles over 3 months back to New Canaan.
He only lived by Divine intervation.
"I survived because the fire inside me burned brighter than the fire around me. I fell into that chasm, but the flame burnt on and on. The fire that had kept alive was love, their love, God's love.'
Joshua HIMSELF states that he only survived because God forgave him, and gave him a chance to atone for all the sins he had commited.
Joshua only lived because God saw in him a chance to repent and find forgiveness
@@Dr_Weirdoo nah he just did a buster keaton style pratfall and facetanked it
I like how Ulysses response is
"Uh.... yeah Ceasar wanted me to kill him but... uh... I just didn't... because l... uh... I didn't want too! Yeah...I totally could have though..."
I took his “Never tried. Could have. No good would come of it” as meaning “I could have tried, but I know it would’ve been a waste of effort” rather than “I could have killed him but chose not to”
Well Joshua was a Legate so it will be hard to kill him, lol maybe it will take a third of the legion to kill him
@@casey6556bro said “nah, i’d lose”
@@blackspy8331The first guy Even claims that Joshua was Even more brutal and better than Lanius.
Ulysses would have gotten folded like a lawn chair
Folded like laundry. @@Dr_Weirdoo
"You gamble with your words and your coin is lacking."
This line has more fire than Graham's backside.
It's a bit of a shame they didn't give Caesar more dialogue in Graham considering no one was closer to him than Caesar. A speech check at least would have been nice to hear his perspective on Graham.
[Speech 100] "Surely you of all people have some type of knowledge on The Burned Man."
[FAILED] "I'm done talking to you, get out of my tent and do what I asked of you before I order my Praetorians to hang you to a cross."
[SUCCESS] "Alright, I admit, I knew him better than anyone else at the camp, but I refuse to speak about this publicly. Come back later tonight, I will order all my Praetorians out of the tent. There, we can speak about this matter in private."
*Later that night.*
"You were seeking information on The Burned Man, correct? I will share this information with you, but if you tell anyone, ally or not, about this, I will make sure you never see the light of day. Got that?"
"Yes."
"Good. Now that we're clear on the consequences of sharing this information, I will tell you what I know about Joshua Graham, or better known as The Burned Man. Joshua was a religious man me and my partner came across in New Canaan, back before we were the Legion. We were Followers of the Apocalypse at the time, looking to help those in need. Graham wanted to spread the word of God to the tribals, and we hesitated to bring him along, but his intellect on the tribals' way of speaking swayed us to do so. We went into Arizona to help some of the locals with Graham as a guide. We encountered a small tribe near Phoenix. They were timid of us at first, but eventually welcomed us with open arms as if we were one of their own. After a week or two of staying with them, a rival tribe came over and threatened to wipe out everyone if they didn't hand over supplies. Graham was slow to anger and quick to forgive, but he was by no means a pushover in combat. Graham convinced the rival tribe their scavengers were out looking and to come back in a few days. In the meantime, he trained some of the men in the tribe to become fierce warriors, while me and my partner taught the women the art of medicine. When the rival tribe returned, Graham and his warriors ambushed the tribe, wiping out their entire raiding force and going to their camp to capture prisoners, take supplies, and kill any who resisted. Graham and his warriors got a taste for battle after that, while I led the assaults. Slowly, we conquered more tribes, took more prisoners, and our numbers swelled. We were no longer a tribe at that point, we were the Legion."
"What happened to Graham after that?"
"As we advanced Westward, we came across the Desert Rangers. They were skilled in combat, but we had more numbers. One of the Rangers we killed had a map with X around New Vegas. Graham gave the map to me, and I knew that is where I wanted my capital to reside. As we approached Hoover Dam, our scouts spotted what we now know is the NCR. We tried to tell them to leave at first, yet they didn't listen. Negotiations broke down, and soon small fights began to break out between NCR Rangers and our scouts. Neither side wanted to take the blame, and negotiations broke down even more. Eventually, we stopped communicating with each other entirely as our forces clashed in bigger and bigger battles, until it was decided we were at war with each other. I came up with a plan to attack Hoover Dam, with Graham and his forces leading the charge. The attack was a success, we had the dam, yet Graham followed the weakened NCR into Boulder City, where a trap had been laid and he walked right into it. His forces were crushed, none left, and Graham barely managed to escape across the dam back into the camp. I was furious, and took Graham personally to the Grand Canyon, where I ordered him to be covered in pitch, set on fire, and thrown into the canyon. After a few days, I returned to see Graham's burnt, mangled corpse at the base of the canyon, but all I saw was burnt clothing and torn up bandages. I've sent frumentarii out looking for him since, but they have yet to find anything."
"So do you think Graham is still alive?"
"It's hard to believe Graham walks to this day, but I have no other explanation for it. I doubt the tribals took him in, and I doubt even more that they could keep Graham alive. If he were to still be alive, it'd be by his own hand."
An AI voice mod would make this into a reality. Awesome writing
@@lordpumpkinhead265lmfao
I believe he does, talk to him about his past and he brings up Graham in the Followers of the Apocalypse tangent. He doesn't go into detail, though...
@mrwizzygiorosales7930 we don't encourage that here
Caesar doesnt want people to talk about it because he essentially ended up burning and tossing his buddy and knows that if Joshua is alive, hes gonna come back with a vengeance and kill him
whenever sasukes voice actor talks it throws me off in new vegas
Who does he voice ?
@@dunbass7149 Lucius in this video. He also voiced several other NV characters
@@emanon- thank you
I know him as Ben 10
Same. Real weird to have your persona pal talk to you about the wasteland. Weirder since his voice is so recognisable to see him voice characters across all factions
honestly,i think Joshua would easily clap Legate,like within a few seconds.
Joshua has actually effective armor, not a bunch of cosplay bs. And he also uses "inferior" guns. Lanius goes monkey mode and tries melee combat and Joshua shoots him dead. End.
@@motivatedman4630irl -yes, but in game Lanius Beats Joshua when you spawn them with console commands
@@PolishGod1234I'd argue that's due to gameplay, Joshua has a debuff as a companion and Lanius has a massive buff being a final boss
@@PolishGod1234What? I saw a video of the two fighting and the guy turned off Lanius immortality and it ended with Joshua blowing up Lanius's head and walking away
I decided to kill Joshua in my Legion playthrough. Not a lot of reaction from anyone, Caesar was completely unphased by my character wearing Joshua's armor right in front of him.
Disappointed
The most likely explanation is that they couldn't wrangle old VAs just to record a few extra lines for reaction, either due to time or money. The in -game explanation which actually makes very good sense is given by Ulysses who essentially says that for Caesar to acknowledge you killing Joshua would be to admit that Joshua survived the grand canyon; and to Caesar, that would be admitting that he failed.
@@hellpwn3391 but the thing is - Caesar _kinda_ knows that old Josh survived, hence why he sends his agents after him from time to time, one after another. I'm even convinced that he may have used the Whitelegs for the same purpose.
But oh well, we've got what we've got, I guess
@Homer First time I played Honest Hearts with a Legion character, I took the opportunity to learn from former Legate Joshua as he was their best warrior. It was a "pet the dog" moment. The White Legs are not fit for Caesar's Legion and don't get integrated no matter what you do so looking down upon them is one way you can think about it and Joshua appreciates your help
@@homer6292 It's like fighting the Hlaalu remnants in the Dragonborn DLC of Skyrim, if you joined the Legion of that game.
Sure is a lot of talking them legionaries do for dead men.
Your gaphics and NPCs look amazing! What mods do you use?
u ever find out?
I'd like to know too 😔
Its ENB
Eh as a working man i prefer to push a button on a console and have fun until i go to sleep.
@@Dantethegrey621How thi is relevant to the question?
Ceasar has wrath? I've never felt it.
the only thing i've ever felt from ceasar is the blood splatter after i place a .50 mg round through his skull
Try nagging him once he tries to fall asleep and you will feel it
@@bobafett9348 he has a bed? I thought he never left that stupid chair. At least that's where I got rid of his tumor, and his head.
Everyone: Eh this is what i know
Ulysses: lemme get my Thesaurus
nvtroon
@@mbsb1376 not even trans 💀
average new vegas fan
2:52 Wait, did Caesar literally watch Joshua roll all the way down... Then get up and walk away? If so, no wonder he's got guys looking for Graham, and forbids his name being spoken! I don't care how badass you are, that would make any man soil his skirt. 😬
According to Joshua, he was unconscious for a day
@@astrotrek3534prolly his basic instinct kicks in and he walked to safety subconsciously then passed out. There's several case similar like that irl afterall, some racing driver crashed out then subconsciously walk out to safety behind the guardrail then passed out until he was discovered by medical team.
Joshua had maxed acrobatics
@@NiCoNiCoNiCola He watched Buster Keaton movies to learn how to pratfall effectively
@@mewmew8932 he just exploded a grenade under him to slow his fall
_Kale watcha nei conversa oh!_
You understand me, don't you? DON'T YOU?!
Fun fact 00:17 that is Peter Parker’s voice actor from the 2016 spider man game
Don’t forget Ben Tennyson as well
Somebody get the Legion a supply of brown contacts, STAT
I like how Ulysses' pessimism still bleeds into his outlook on how he think Joshua will live on, even though we can influence him to be more merciful and to move on from his rage.
The cera ve commercial I got is criminally ironic. Your skin craves hydration...
This has to be a mod.
Caesar looks too.. Caesar!
Courier: Hey Caesar my man. I went to Zion and happened to learn that the burned man everyone's been talking about still alive. I went out of my way and took care of him. You were not so successful in regard to killing that mummy but you are now. I think you owe me one.
Caesar: Praetorians, kill this asshole!
Courier: ...What?
Creaser would be PISSED if you told him Graham lives.
I feel like he has to already know. Joshua just went back to the Mormons-never really went into hiding. Hell, he and Daniel are missionaries, so he was practically going around announcing his presence by trying to convert people. There’s no way Caesar doesn’t already know.
Hey man, love your videos. Could you please list the mods you are using somewhere?
Cool to know the utmost feared man the ‘Burned man’ is from *utah*
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
nah it makes you wish for a cold nuka cola the best for a lucky ranger buy it now for only 34 caps
I will track you down to EVERY corner of the Mojave to STING you with my, LASER ROBO-SCORPION LEGION!
I honestly can't imagine playing the game under Caesar's boot. I only just played FNV for the first time about 2 years ago and by the time I got to Caesar I was already super high level and had destroyed the BOS so I wasn't about to take shit from his old ass. After I activated the underground mainframe with the platinum chip I killed the entire Legion camp, then blew Benny's head off and as far as I'm concerned that was the end of my courier's story. House got what he wanted, I got my revenge on Benny so there was no reason to stick around in Nevada anymore. I like to imagine the Courier went off east into Colorado in search of more work.
That's exactly what I did except I didn't destroy the whole camp. Can you keep the platinum chip after that and disable mr house
Lucius sounds like the courier when power attacking
I really wish that there would have been unique dialogue if you met Graham before you meet named legionaries. Say something like “Joshua Graham lives.” Kinda like how you can tell the Brotherhood and/or Institute about Acadia in Far Harbor. Either to ask for a reward to “slay the legend”, or to put just a bit more weight in their pants that a ghost of vengeance may come knocking.
2:06 is the same voice actor for Sauske from naruto
What mods do you use for character & clothing textures?
Isn't there a large chunk of info from Chief Ranger Hanlon talking about the first battle?
Best NPC in the entire Fallout series.
man your game looks gorgeous
Its funny how a courier who got capped twice with a 45 to the dome
Fucked so shit up all over went to some mountain to chill out on
Caesar needs to watch his damn tone. Besides the slavery and obviously horrible nature of the Legion, I can't abide working for a dick. *loads anti-materiel rifle with malicious intent*
I love how the mods make new vegas look so fresh and beautiful, even without mods I think Obsidian made a great work giving personality to the game, compared to Bethesda og Fallout games
The bird man.
My favorite character in all of fallout the burning man
Can John Graham Ally with a faction?
Sadly I don’t believe he can
@@madrussian1444
Sad indeed.
He doesn't really agree with any faction anyway. He obviously hates the Legion. He views House as similar to Caesar becuase of how he handled the Three Families when they were tribes, but does remark "it's too bad." Fianlly he is pessimistic about NCR. He thinks they are better than the other two, but believes their leader's greed and corruption will tear them apart eventually. Graham isn't a Independent Vegas supporter either, he just doesn't care, which is understandable considering fighting for the Mojave scarred him the way it did, he just wants to stay out of it.
@@thewholehorse7140 That...explains much.
Ahh yes the John Graham, Joshua's twin.
Man, like half of those Legionaries were just Yuri Lowenthal lol
You guys ever heard about freddy Krueger? We don't talk about him either.
Fallout New Vegas: "Succeed in speech check." Nothing changes.
Fallout 3: "You cant kill me im important to the story"
Fo4
Ok
No(Ok)
Maybe(ok)
Sarcastic
There’s rumours of a man who barely makes noise but he controls the courier via remote, little do many know there’s a multiverse of couriers in one universe it was said that he found infinity stones an sniffed them and in his universe yes man was snuffed as well as all figure heads and you think your universe is the best so far that courier has had children who time travel so that people start new games some say the camera man never dies I say the courier will live forever hail the courier and his iron nostrils that also sniffed the platinum chip.
Go to bed
So even they think he's a greater warrior than lanius
That's insane considering lanius is an actual monster
Vulpes? You mean Mark Zuckerberg?
Vulpes looks like that picture of Zuck in the Metaverse
Siri, tell me about the Burned Man.
Ulysses being a professional yapper as always
I really wish you could press Caesar on Joshua and not just change the subject. Kinda lame.
Joshua would’ve wrecked Ulysses.
Thats why Ulysses hesitated when he was tasked to kill Graham
Ulysses: "No good would have come off it" It can be interpreted in many ways but it also can be interpreted as he knows he will lose thats why he hesitated.
Well duh he's far stronger than even Lanius was
Add a mod list, boss. Provide the sauce
And who doesn´t know Legate Laneeus?
Dudes be like "Subway sucks". My brother in Christ... You made the sandwich.
Damn did Yuri Lowenthal (Sasuke Uchiha, Haseo, Yosuke Hanamura, Ben Tennyson, Simon the Digger, Suzaku Kururugi, the Prince of Persia, and more) voice like half the Legion in this game?
Joshua would shred them in an instant.
Hey, how did you get dragbody armor remastered but kept the original faces?
I see similarity between Abraham and Joshua. Maybe this was the case when the character made. The fire did not kill him
Wtf Lucius started talking and suddenly i heard Dainsleif from Genshin
is Otho... Yuri Lowenthal? 😭😭
Sure is
he was a mormon it sounds like.
My coin is lacking? Ohoho buddy, I have a bunch of Sierra Madre gold bars that beg to differ.
Metaphorical coin, i.e. you're staking a bet you can't actually pay for. He's saying he's seen through your bluff.
@@BigMikeMcBastard Well aware, friend.
When was the last time any of you have played a game so enthralling, so.....stunning
I cant remember
This was it wasnt it
The high point of story telling in a triple A game
YES LOBOTOMITE! You have TRULY found the MEANING in a game made with LOVE and CARE!
This was enthralling to you?
@@023Whiplash When it came out it was
you are 15 years late though
Asking if we can expect god to do all the work
bro why does vulpes look like he from the ghetto
mans got a 20 dollar haircut
Always wearing that dog helmet to hide his yee yee ass haircut
5:29 The third option is literally just
What would I lie to you? I am telling the truth.
what graphics mod is this
You're never gonna tell us your ENB, are you?
What mods are you using? It looks so good
I haven’t really kept up in a really long time but how does their game look so good. Is it there hardware, mods or a remastering of some sort? Thanks
NCR, legion, Mr house, or the wild card option, which one is best
What are those graphics mods?!
Sasuke was like four of these guys
I feel like the courier otho and Anthony would be great legions friends
Going on adventure getting into trouble 😅😂 and otho would be the one friend with a stick up his butt always going on and on about rules this and rules that and he tries really hard to be cool but doesn't understand what cool is and hes a total daddy boy
While Anthony is the one friend always looking for something fun to do 😜 like a puppy
"The Burned Man was our greatest warrior, even greater than Legate Lanius".
The Legion obeys Lanius due to the fear he imposes among soldiers, however, even after "death", the same soldiers keep viewing Graham with respect. When it comes to icons or military forces, Lanius becomes strength, but Joshua becomes raw power.
Hanlon sent NCR elites to assassinate Graham 5x and still walk away from it. Thats like getting a death sentence 5x and surviving it all. No wonder all of the legion are scared shitless of Graham.
Someone tell me what enb he uses
Was that first npc sasukes voice actor?
Someone mentioned lucius and that he voiced some other characters as well
Is there any game begging for a graphics update more than this one?
Do you use an enb if so what one?
So Graham was supposed to be some kind of apostate mormon like The Followers but he joined Caesar? Didnt make much sense to me.
It's less that he "joined Caesar" and more that he was one of the founding members of the Legion.
Why do all the npcs look like theyre from kotor
What enb and weather do you use ?
What are your mods
how are you talking to ulysses? I thought he dies in the lonesome road dlc
no you can be allies against the marked man just pass speech cheeks i guess
@@youssefblahcen3766 wow I had no idea.
If you have 100 speech, you can get a peaceful ending and keep him alive at the end of the DLC
If you have speech >90 or have found all his holotapes, you can talk him down.
@@aspeckinthegrandschemeofth3457 Do you rly need speech for that? I remember that I sided with him at the end and fought off the ghouls without using any spech options
Joshua Graham needs to return in any future fallout game.
I'm on and off hearing Sasuke from Naruto.
After various interactions with Lanius, i kinda think is god damm boring talk your way out of him
*it's more interesting putting a nuke on his face while he fights g o d >:)*
the burning man, more like... The burning ham
Classic
I love Joshua because he's a Mormon, and he's from Utah.