Humans are willing to accept deals that leave them unsatisfied if it also leaves the other equally unsatisfied especially if the alternative is combat.
For the first story: Hyper Aggression = When attacked personally or a family member is attacked, we DON'T back down. We WILL keep fighting until either we die or the attacker does.
In a way it is still a death world, just a different reason why. We had to overcome everything trying to kill us to claim paradise so the struggle is similar to a death world, and it explains why so many xeno's want Earth despite how often Humans are portrayed as deathworlders
I mean, that's exactly the same thing really: "deathworld" in most of these is defined by the ecosystem being exceedingly dangerous compared to the norm with the other common distinction being planets with major environmental hazards (the only one of those that seems fair is gravity: earth is fairly close to the borderline at which chemical rockets stop being even remotely viable and you'd need to look at something as insane as the Orion Project to start getting into space...though funnily enough that might actually be a good motivator for a species to keep it's head on straight after an industrial/communication revolution). earth is simultaneously a great place for life to develop with all sorts of repetitive energy and chemical gradients (open water + a single large moon alone would put it way above the norm for that) and on the receiving end of several planetary scale catastrophes throwing the mother of all wrenches into the smooth process of life. they are saying that the normal lifebearing world in the setting has basic conditions less conductive to high ecological density and biodiversity making the challenge for life more a matter of efficiently slotting into niches than cross-niche competition...really any kind of ecology+environment combination where species jumping niches and/or switching environments is a thing that actually occurs would crank things up way past 11 compared to any ecology+environment where that sort of stuff isn't really a thing. if you're specifically trying to make life as scary as possible in an environment you turn the energy availability as high as it will go without reducing the potential diversity of chemical interactions, increase the chemical activity in the environment, and introduce some kind of environmental variance that limits the potential for symbiotic and codependent relationships in macro life. so in theory an _actual_ "deathworld" would be pretty much exactly earth, but back when it was still a lot more volcanically active...it was kinda an irradiated hellscape back then though so a more protective atmosphere and just less radioactive material in general in it's composition would probably help, earth would be a far *FAR* less biologically active world without plants simultaneously upping the energy content and tweaking the atmosphere to shield everything.
Paradise world? Earth is a damn flytrap. It looks beautiful, but the moment you set foot on the planet, you’ll be exposed to all manner of hellish diseases and viruses that had to adapt at such an astonishing rate just to keep up with the human immune system alone, toss in the several extinction events and mass losses of dominant life, and you have what would likely be classified as superviruses to the rest of the galactic community. While the biggest predators to ever roam earth have long since gone extinct, those that survived and grew to become dominant after the previous rulers met their end at the hands of a meteorite half the size of Texas, and the new tenants quickly grew into some of the most effective and dangerous predators on earth. To the point that their prey evolved to be nearly as dangerous as those that hunted them. Then there’s the hordes of various venomous and poisonous insects, some of which don’t even need to be provoked to attack something much bigger than themselves. Which are only matched by the amount of poisonous plants that litter the earth, killing dozens, and making hundreds of thousands more sick and weak as a result. Earth is a blue marble of death, and the current apex predators on the planet clawed their way to the top spot and have made it clear that nothing else will be challenging their position anytime soon.
@@decimation9780 fun fact: orcas are most likely the single most dangerous predator in the history of the planet. for that matter all whales are technically predators, even if the filter feeders are functionally grazers, this means that the heaviest and most likely physically strongest animal in the history of the planet is 1: predatory and 2: currently alive and...actually not doing so great so I guess I can't finish that line.
@@evernewb2073 Yeah. Big as they are, blue whales are complete pacifists, they might use their bulk to intimidate predators like Humpback whales will do, but they don’t really know what harming another living animal means. But I wasn’t referring to orcas when I made my comment. Sure, they’re dangerous, but they don’t have access to nuclear weapons. We’re the most dangerous predator on the planet, because we spent so many years trying to figure out ways to kill each other that we made weapons capable of destroying entire cities in the blink of an eye.
I greatly enjoyed this. The 2nd story in particular is something I have thought of myself. What if Earth wasn't a death world but a paradise and humans were still the most dangdrous and biggest bad asses out there, because while every other race had to fight hostile climate, humans had to fight hostile everything else including themselves to get where they are. That would make for some very fun stories. "Beaten by a bunch of Paradisers"
Here is the thing though, the story is dumb simply because they got the idea of world classifications wrong. Earth isn't a Death World because of "harsh climates" it is a Death World because of many small climates that are constantly changing in what we have classified as seasons. Any life that evolves can live in the environment that it evolved in easily if it never changes no matter how harsh the conditions. In the story for example they are like "herp derp it is always cold where we evolved" well good job you can thrive in cold environments.....whales and sharks and penguins do that. Earth is a death world simply because of it's climate and changing seasons. It is why most animals either hibernate or migrate, they aren't being lazy or going on vacation, they are doing it because they will go extinct if they don't. Every day is a struggle for survival for most animals. If you as a human were to live as a country bumpkin with no running water or electricity you would quickly find that every day is a struggle for you to survive as well.
Second story: An update on the Humans supercommander SC: What is it Adjutant: There was a mistake in classification of the human home world. SC: Ah so it was just a regular planet not a paradise world ? Well that at least partially explains what just happened A: Not entirely SC... In fact the human home world has been classified as category 5 Deathworld. SC:..... A: standing at attention SC: Y-you... mean to tell me we just attacked a Category 5 Deathworld species ? Category 5 deatworld that considered uninhabittable by any sentient species. Category 5 that spawns some of the most dedliest monstrosities the universe has ever known. THAT Category 5 ?! A: That would be the one Supercommander SC:.... A:..... SC:.... All units, full retreat! I repeat all units full retreat! Lets get out of here and hide the trail. With some luck they wont be able to track down our FTL coordinates! The fleet jumps out of the sector immediately. A: But SC... what about that ship of ours the Terrans captured ? SC:.... starts sweating profusely. SC could almost hear the nonexistent chant from the depths of the Sol system "Uga buga monkeeh throw rock!"
I like the earth being a garden world, different from the usual deathworld. Not that I object to either. A well written story is still a well written story, Thank you for another great reading
They were so friendly and I enjoyed playing with the Nanos. They loved eating my holey socks so much that I even saved them up just for the cute grey goo.
Too many good things are equal to a bad thing, both become a death world. Humanity has a planet with abundance too great thus had great competition comparable to a death world
Earth being a paradise world is kinda ridiculous. More than a touch implausible. Deathworlders is closer to the money: this place is a radioactive toxic waste dump of a planet. The gravity here is near the top end of what theoretical engineering and chemistry can really get to. Furthermore, Earth is the big dog of solid planets.
On the flip side, I've never really been sold that aliens evolved on worlds with significantly less gravity that Earth, especially when every example of such a world in our own solar system has been unable to hang on to atmosphere. Not unless those worlds were so much COLDER than Earth that humans would have been unable to live there without full blown life support anyway.
Human families are also two men, or two women, or any assortment thereof, with ether biological or adopted children. These bonds are no less strong than those of other families. And some people would do well to remember that when they come sniffing around for trouble.
Earth is not a paradise planet. Otherwise it would not have wild fluctuations in weather patterns, animals and plants trying to kill you along with insects. Or diseases, nevermind earthquakes, volcanoes, tsunamis. A paradise world huh!!!!
Relatively speaking, those things are kinda rare. Tsunami's, volcano explosions, earthquakes (the big ones that make the news) are not an every-other-day occurrence. By standards set by even out own solar system, we're calm as far as our atmosphere/weather goes (we have one that ALLOWS life at all to be a thing), we're fairly geologically stable. For some, our world may be the "perfect planet"
Given how the aliens' planet is described (Hoth like arctic), single biome worlds with climates extremely hostile to life appear to be the galactic norm. Earth's climate which permits multiple biome types (ie, pick any alien race and they'll likely find at least one Earth biome nice to live in) is extremely conducive to life. Check out any jungle and swamp and see the vast variety of life there. Oh, and diseases are a form of life BTW.
Humans are willing to accept deals that leave them unsatisfied if it also leaves the other equally unsatisfied especially if the alternative is combat.
For the first story: Hyper Aggression = When attacked personally or a family member is attacked, we DON'T back down. We WILL keep fighting until either we die or the attacker does.
Or we both die
it boils down to "you mess with one bean you mess with the whole burrito."
@@theenderdestruction2362 Either way, they WILL die.
I like the paradise world plotline. It makes more sense than a deathworld.
In a way it is still a death world, just a different reason why. We had to overcome everything trying to kill us to claim paradise so the struggle is similar to a death world, and it explains why so many xeno's want Earth despite how often Humans are portrayed as deathworlders
I mean, that's exactly the same thing really: "deathworld" in most of these is defined by the ecosystem being exceedingly dangerous compared to the norm with the other common distinction being planets with major environmental hazards (the only one of those that seems fair is gravity: earth is fairly close to the borderline at which chemical rockets stop being even remotely viable and you'd need to look at something as insane as the Orion Project to start getting into space...though funnily enough that might actually be a good motivator for a species to keep it's head on straight after an industrial/communication revolution).
earth is simultaneously a great place for life to develop with all sorts of repetitive energy and chemical gradients (open water + a single large moon alone would put it way above the norm for that) and on the receiving end of several planetary scale catastrophes throwing the mother of all wrenches into the smooth process of life.
they are saying that the normal lifebearing world in the setting has basic conditions less conductive to high ecological density and biodiversity making the challenge for life more a matter of efficiently slotting into niches than cross-niche competition...really any kind of ecology+environment combination where species jumping niches and/or switching environments is a thing that actually occurs would crank things up way past 11 compared to any ecology+environment where that sort of stuff isn't really a thing. if you're specifically trying to make life as scary as possible in an environment you turn the energy availability as high as it will go without reducing the potential diversity of chemical interactions, increase the chemical activity in the environment, and introduce some kind of environmental variance that limits the potential for symbiotic and codependent relationships in macro life.
so in theory an _actual_ "deathworld" would be pretty much exactly earth, but back when it was still a lot more volcanically active...it was kinda an irradiated hellscape back then though so a more protective atmosphere and just less radioactive material in general in it's composition would probably help, earth would be a far *FAR* less biologically active world without plants simultaneously upping the energy content and tweaking the atmosphere to shield everything.
Paradise world? Earth is a damn flytrap. It looks beautiful, but the moment you set foot on the planet, you’ll be exposed to all manner of hellish diseases and viruses that had to adapt at such an astonishing rate just to keep up with the human immune system alone, toss in the several extinction events and mass losses of dominant life, and you have what would likely be classified as superviruses to the rest of the galactic community.
While the biggest predators to ever roam earth have long since gone extinct, those that survived and grew to become dominant after the previous rulers met their end at the hands of a meteorite half the size of Texas, and the new tenants quickly grew into some of the most effective and dangerous predators on earth. To the point that their prey evolved to be nearly as dangerous as those that hunted them.
Then there’s the hordes of various venomous and poisonous insects, some of which don’t even need to be provoked to attack something much bigger than themselves. Which are only matched by the amount of poisonous plants that litter the earth, killing dozens, and making hundreds of thousands more sick and weak as a result.
Earth is a blue marble of death, and the current apex predators on the planet clawed their way to the top spot and have made it clear that nothing else will be challenging their position anytime soon.
@@decimation9780 fun fact: orcas are most likely the single most dangerous predator in the history of the planet.
for that matter all whales are technically predators, even if the filter feeders are functionally grazers, this means that the heaviest and most likely physically strongest animal in the history of the planet is 1: predatory and 2: currently alive and...actually not doing so great so I guess I can't finish that line.
@@evernewb2073 Yeah. Big as they are, blue whales are complete pacifists, they might use their bulk to intimidate predators like Humpback whales will do, but they don’t really know what harming another living animal means. But I wasn’t referring to orcas when I made my comment. Sure, they’re dangerous, but they don’t have access to nuclear weapons. We’re the most dangerous predator on the planet, because we spent so many years trying to figure out ways to kill each other that we made weapons capable of destroying entire cities in the blink of an eye.
I greatly enjoyed this. The 2nd story in particular is something I have thought of myself. What if Earth wasn't a death world but a paradise and humans were still the most dangdrous and biggest bad asses out there, because while every other race had to fight hostile climate, humans had to fight hostile everything else including themselves to get where they are. That would make for some very fun stories. "Beaten by a bunch of Paradisers"
Here is the thing though, the story is dumb simply because they got the idea of world classifications wrong.
Earth isn't a Death World because of "harsh climates" it is a Death World because of many small climates that are constantly changing in what we have classified as seasons.
Any life that evolves can live in the environment that it evolved in easily if it never changes no matter how harsh the conditions.
In the story for example they are like "herp derp it is always cold where we evolved" well good job you can thrive in cold environments.....whales and sharks and penguins do that.
Earth is a death world simply because of it's climate and changing seasons.
It is why most animals either hibernate or migrate, they aren't being lazy or going on vacation, they are doing it because they will go extinct if they don't.
Every day is a struggle for survival for most animals.
If you as a human were to live as a country bumpkin with no running water or electricity you would quickly find that every day is a struggle for you to survive as well.
Despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in a cage.
*Nom Nom Nom*
that second story was my favorite. thx for the vid.
a pleasure
After over a hundred of these tales the second one is the only I've seen to refer to Earth as a "Paradise World"!
Avoiding picking fights prevents getting your ass kicked.
T.S.T.A. To Spite the Algorithm, and it's horrible habit of not recommending great vids like this to more people.
UA-cam is run by aliens afraid of humanity
Second story: An update on the Humans supercommander
SC: What is it
Adjutant: There was a mistake in classification of the human home world.
SC: Ah so it was just a regular planet not a paradise world ? Well that at least partially explains what just happened
A: Not entirely SC... In fact the human home world has been classified as category 5 Deathworld.
SC:.....
A: standing at attention
SC: Y-you... mean to tell me we just attacked a Category 5 Deathworld species ? Category 5 deatworld that considered uninhabittable by any sentient species. Category 5 that spawns some of the most dedliest monstrosities the universe has ever known. THAT Category 5 ?!
A: That would be the one Supercommander
SC:....
A:.....
SC:.... All units, full retreat! I repeat all units full retreat! Lets get out of here and hide the trail. With some luck they wont be able to track down our FTL coordinates!
The fleet jumps out of the sector immediately.
A: But SC... what about that ship of ours the Terrans captured ?
SC:.... starts sweating profusely.
SC could almost hear the nonexistent chant from the depths of the Sol system
"Uga buga monkeeh throw rock!"
this was a fun read. especially the second story really took the general idea and put it on it's head.
You damn xenos! Make up your mind! Is Earth a paradis-planet or a level 12 deathworld?
Obviously it is a level 12 death world because it is a paradise planet.
Yes
Humanity: No one makes me bleed but me!
Nice spin on the old "Death World" trope.
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Cheers gain for the great tales. Well read!!
A pleasure , glad you enjoyed
I like the earth being a garden world, different from the usual deathworld.
Not that I object to either.
A well written story is still a well written story,
Thank you for another great reading
I miss the biomass eating sentient nanobots...
lol , been a while for those
Yah that was good times
Which story is that?
@@thomaskelleyjr.1671 He used to say that at the beginning for couple hundred videos. Check the early ones.
They were so friendly and I enjoyed playing with the Nanos. They loved eating my holey socks so much that I even saved them up just for the cute grey goo.
What's that Iine from the movie "Junior", starring Danny Divito and Arnold Swartzeneger - "If you mess with me, you mess with my whole family!"?
It was actually the movie was called Twins...
@@angelrivera2339 Thanks! All the narration about babies confused me!😊
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Thanks for the story!
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Aliens discovering the difference between /r/ and /K/ selection and the implications there-of.
Rather interesting take on the death world trope.
Too many good things are equal to a bad thing, both become a death world. Humanity has a planet with abundance too great thus had great competition comparable to a death world
I've done unspeakable things for an ungrateful nation.
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Imagine what I'll do for those I love.
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So basically, we're a bunch of barbarians that denied paradise for the sake of more gun?
Earth being a paradise world is kinda ridiculous. More than a touch implausible. Deathworlders is closer to the money: this place is a radioactive toxic waste dump of a planet. The gravity here is near the top end of what theoretical engineering and chemistry can really get to. Furthermore, Earth is the big dog of solid planets.
On the flip side, I've never really been sold that aliens evolved on worlds with significantly less gravity that Earth, especially when every example of such a world in our own solar system has been unable to hang on to atmosphere. Not unless those worlds were so much COLDER than Earth that humans would have been unable to live there without full blown life support anyway.
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Did they use NERF guns or water pistols?
Ah wrong story.
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Garden world is the true death world.
Algorithm be pleased.
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Well, there you are then... 😃
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Human families are also two men, or two women, or any assortment thereof, with ether biological or adopted children. These bonds are no less strong than those of other families. And some people would do well to remember that when they come sniffing around for trouble.
That's what the "fluid" and "adding" comments addressed, I think.
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Earth is not a paradise planet. Otherwise it would not have wild fluctuations in weather patterns, animals and plants trying to kill you along with insects. Or diseases, nevermind earthquakes, volcanoes, tsunamis. A paradise world huh!!!!
Relatively speaking, those things are kinda rare. Tsunami's, volcano explosions, earthquakes (the big ones that make the news) are not an every-other-day occurrence. By standards set by even out own solar system, we're calm as far as our atmosphere/weather goes (we have one that ALLOWS life at all to be a thing), we're fairly geologically stable. For some, our world may be the "perfect planet"
Given how the aliens' planet is described (Hoth like arctic), single biome worlds with climates extremely hostile to life appear to be the galactic norm. Earth's climate which permits multiple biome types (ie, pick any alien race and they'll likely find at least one Earth biome nice to live in) is extremely conducive to life. Check out any jungle and swamp and see the vast variety of life there.
Oh, and diseases are a form of life BTW.
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