12:30 he’s right. The real world is much more cruel. Especially when you have a low income job. I used to work drive thru in fast food. The amount of rage I had to deal with is crazy.
@@Ihavegilslol you’re going to have some problems kid. Your boss is going to do you way worse and if you can’t take it you’re going to end up McDonalds.
bro i literally had motherfuckers fire me for my job, and completely berate me and bully me, because SOMEONE ELSE (wanted to) STARTED A FIGHT WITH ME, after THEY STOLE MY JACKET (worked burger king deliveries and we had our own bike jackets) like getting yelled at cause you inted a match is just a normal tuesday with the boys 😂😂
If Hal was still on the same team, they all need to talk about it but they are set on their own paths. It's finished. Move on, learn, improve, love each other.
They’re all still friends, Evan is just trying to use the situation to maneuver TSM viewers to him instead of Hal by confirming the comments that Hal’s detractors have made this whole time. It just screams I’m ungrateful and want attention.
The title is incorrect. Hal isn’t referring to Evans “fell off” comments about Raven. Hal’s referring to Evans comments about how he enjoys playing the game more now that he’s not playing with Hal. There’s a clip of Evan that just came out today where he said “the game is way easier to play now that I don’t have to play with Hal anymore”
They talked about it behind the scenes, good, then Evan just shared... it would have been worse if they didn't talk about it as a team, and then Evan comes out to "air out the dirty laundry"
yeah but he still did and out of all this, jordan is the most sane one "petty drama. we had a good run. wish them luck. thats it" anything other than that is just kids publicizing their business like a youtuber who just broke up with his youtuber gf
@@jcibrian11 because talking about what he said was clearly so important that you had to comment about it, right? just because you Google "multi-task" doesn't mean you're capable. 🤣
Ahh, I guessed this a while back. I had a feeling Verhulst didn't want to play with Hal anymore, I just didn't ever want to say it. This what happens when a nice guy holds back his anger for too many years, and he just lets it all out at once. I thought Verhulst wanted to quit because he kept playing under Hal. But I noticed Verhulst drive to win again was there once Hal left. Verhulst never wanted to quit. He was just tired of getting yelled at everyday and holding it back. This is why nice guys dont' stay nice forever. They eventually learn just letting it out is better.
i mean all that is fine but evan just leaking all this to the public is the problem. they could've easily talked this out but for some reason he had to start talking shit. No one was saying shit when they were winning, it's no surprise that the two most decorated players in this game are A holes in game. if evan was unhappy he could've easily leave and play with an igl that holds his hand lol, and i'm certain he wouldn't have won shit.
@@DBurr07 That's the life of a nice guy. They don't want to hurt anybody. Then once they had enough, they let everything out all at once, then everyone is hurt.
I'll be over here being an asshole winning everything and you can be over there happy while losing, haha. Nice guys finish last. I figured that out a long time ago. You'll just get walked over being too nice. You have to be an asshole at some point.
i personal compete i high lvls in boxing, & some other things. i’m definitely a leader. i didn’t really like hal for the longest because he didn’t seem happy w tsm. u can tell the last few yrs. i said before he changed teams, i believe he should go to a new team. now u can tell how much happier he is. i enjoy watching him play now. the insults dont seem so person w dz. which i believe that’s what he’s overlooking. ppl called him names because u can tell when he was mad w tsm mates it was beyond just the game. which for any leader, it’s never viable. it’s the reason they lost these past few yrs. i also believed he should step down as main lead, & i believe w zero, it was the perfect squad. i wanted him w timmy, but he would have to lead, & it probably woulda been bad. timmy needs to become lead of his team when he’s ready, even if that means getting rid of design
Evan shared his feelings and didn't call people names. Hal over here saying "leech" "bums" "cringe". His feelings are obviously hurt. IGLs rather verbally abuse their teammates than to deal with drama of a guy speaking his feelings. Evan didn't even talk shit about Hal. Lowkey those trophies can give you justification for narcissism. Hal doesn't know the different between Nice and Kind either. From the Ninja school of gaming "If you don't rage after you die, you already lost". Glad Imperialhal found a home with Falcons though.
What? Evan is airing stuff out that was supposedly resolved PRIVATELY as a team LOL. Hal even confronted Evan to see if Evan;s lack of motivation and grind was due to himself and Evan said no. In Hal's perspective they talked and the situation was resolved. Then fast forward to the podcast he throws Raven under the bus called out raven saying he fell off and got lazy near the end. But in reality it was Evan that got lazy and didn't grind. You can't coach a player if the player has given up. he then said "we all fell off" which is also a lie cos Hal continued to grind and doing his job.
Both said some stuff that seemed reasonable, other stuff that just doesn’t hold water. I still like Hal, but he is justifying his baby behavior with wins that were shared with his team. Hals argument of his behavior being synonymous with winning is BS. He says he would do anything to win, except can’t exercise the slightest discipline to behave in a way he knows would benefit the mental of his teammates, and you can find endless examples in other sports or professions on how important effective team communication is.
Hal needs to shut it seriously. He is always involved in the drama and its everyone else. WHy does he insist on disclosing personal , play play play life crap ??? maturity level zero.
Evan ain't trying to farm views lol he's just speaking how he felt he just felt to much pressure with you now he's enjoying the game again because he doesn't have you pressuring him
Evan is not doing for views it just happened to come out now. And Hal has nothing to say for it because it’s true. That’s why he’s so conflicted. So what that the world is cruel it doesn’t mean you have to be a dick to your team and become part of the cruel world.
" if you cannot handle how I act in a video game boy you're have you're going to have so many more things to worry about in life that's way worse" for my next trick, I'll justify any short comings from my temper, by pointing at how cruel the world is.
@@Strudderz yes because evan called out raven saying he fell off and got lazy near the end. but in reality it was evan that got lazy and didnt grind. You can't coach a player if the player has given up. he then said "we all fell off" which is also a lie cos hal continued to grind and doing his job.
hal just wanna tell evan and jordan not s tier players and hal wanna win money . evan rate tsm just for hype but it’s change nothing bcs tsm not be in to 10 on alga and we all know it
also mentally checking your team before a land event by say i am leaving for DZ, anyone in this world would be mad about and evan is probably still mad about it
Hal would be a lot more likeable if he would just admit that there are more ways to win then just being a belligerent asshole to your teammates. He constantly invokes Michael Jordan as proof that being a hardass is the only way to win while completely ignoring players like lebron, Steph or Duncan who had low conflict team communication styles (or “rainbows and sunshine” like hal puts it) and still won as much as MJ. Also for how much Kobe or MJ were assholes I would be surprised to see them say half the things hal says to reps and Evan while they were in a middle of a NBA game.
Yes there are different styles to winning and Hal's style is don't hold back, shout, rage get it all out and move on. There shouldn't be any surprise with Hal's IGLing style it's not a secret. Evan joined knowing full well what Hal is like as an IGL. Like Evan said he joined TSM as a business decision, now that they have won a few times he doesn't want to put up with it anymore.
This guy is really embarrassing. Trying to act like he’s MJ. It’s a video game bro. No one thinks you’re tough, or you’re just trying to be tough on teammates. There’s a difference between tough love, and just auto blaming your teammates for everything. It’s insanely cringe how he’s trying to act like MJ
@@UrbanMatts LOL. Millions?!? Sure buddy. Even if he is (he isn’t) that gravy train might last another year or so. After that? He’s fucked. No real skills.
@@sigster87 The amount of subs, viewers, ads, player contract, donations, tournament winnings and sponsorship Hal gets he is 100% making a mil PER YEAR. He knows streaming and professional Esports player is not sustainable which is why he grinds EVERYDAY to earn money and invest so he can live a comfortable life after his career.
@@angelazcona7 you are wrong , ESA was a way better team than TSM back in the day , also TSM was shit before raven . also that's not how it works buddy , anything can happens in BR
@ceskyy_5645 how am I wrong? Only hal and zero have won Lans before this last one. So I'm not wrong in any statement I made. The two most dedicated IGLs have won 90 percent of the Lans.
and what's wrong with doing things for views??? Shitting on any other monetizing avenue because it's not what you do? Nah.... i think it's Evans drama to farm... now if we start talking about Hal and his ex-gf, THEN that's LEECHING
“I hope sunshine’s and rainbows bring you first place Evan”😹😹
Oh, this didnt age well. Poor Hal. 😢
Evan on his villain arc 😳
More like his losing arc
Naw I do think evan is kinda wrong
@@ros6919hals the biggest crybaby in apex history big dawg 😂
@@Mex972 he may be a crybaby, but he has the most championships
@dariusmunoz4086 the crybaby who is dominant in apex competitive
The crybaby who made tsm a dynasty
The crybaby who has the most earnings
Idk why Hal gets it the worst, Dezignful, phony,sweet,zero, and many more igls yell and fight with their team too
it’s just a viewership thing more people see hal rage
Because he pulls 100x the viewers people see it more
12:30 he’s right.
The real world is much more cruel. Especially when you have a low income job. I used to work drive thru in fast food. The amount of rage I had to deal with is crazy.
Lol hal wouldnt know about thst, he said being a pro gamer is the hardest job in the world 😂
So someone makes playing a GAME miserable cause they can’t communicate with their team without throwing a tantrum.
@@Ihavegilslol you’re going to have some problems kid. Your boss is going to do you way worse and if you can’t take it you’re going to end up McDonalds.
bro i literally had motherfuckers fire me for my job, and completely berate me and bully me, because SOMEONE ELSE (wanted to) STARTED A FIGHT WITH ME, after THEY STOLE MY JACKET (worked burger king deliveries and we had our own bike jackets)
like getting yelled at cause you inted a match is just a normal tuesday with the boys 😂😂
Verhulst on his Scottie Pipen arc smh
This didnt aged well. 😂
Intelligent words from Halbert. How can you hate the guy
If Hal was still on the same team, they all need to talk about it but they are set on their own paths. It's finished. Move on, learn, improve, love each other.
I just hope Jordan and Hal keep being friends
reps made an appearance and had nothing but praise for his buddy Hal
Yeah but look at the top players they all are like him in a way and like he said Evan denied that
Jordan came into chat and said that he backs Hal in that without Hal’s mentality, they would be nothing.
Hal and Jordan locked in for life they are brothers they been through everything together
They’re all still friends, Evan is just trying to use the situation to maneuver TSM viewers to him instead of Hal by confirming the comments that Hal’s detractors have made this whole time. It just screams I’m ungrateful and want attention.
The title is incorrect. Hal isn’t referring to Evans “fell off” comments about Raven. Hal’s referring to Evans comments about how he enjoys playing the game more now that he’s not playing with Hal. There’s a clip of Evan that just came out today where he said “the game is way easier to play now that I don’t have to play with Hal anymore”
You should know it’s all clickbait at this point lmao
It makes sense why he left.
They talked about it behind the scenes, good, then Evan just shared... it would have been worse if they didn't talk about it as a team, and then Evan comes out to "air out the dirty laundry"
yeah but he still did and out of all this, jordan is the most sane one
"petty drama. we had a good run. wish them luck. thats it"
anything other than that is just kids publicizing their business like a youtuber who just broke up with his youtuber gf
Evan said Hal is the only one who didn’t fall off.
I kept counting how many times Hal took his hat off haha
paying attention to something like that instead of what the person is saying. that's that autism type beat 😂
Okay how many times?
@@beerdoyou can’t multi task?
@@jcibrian11 because talking about what he said was clearly so important that you had to comment about it, right?
just because you Google "multi-task" doesn't mean you're capable. 🤣
@@beerdo you’re commenting too buddy
Now I see why he left, and it all makes sense
Ahh, I guessed this a while back. I had a feeling Verhulst didn't want to play with Hal anymore, I just didn't ever want to say it. This what happens when a nice guy holds back his anger for too many years, and he just lets it all out at once. I thought Verhulst wanted to quit because he kept playing under Hal. But I noticed Verhulst drive to win again was there once Hal left. Verhulst never wanted to quit. He was just tired of getting yelled at everyday and holding it back. This is why nice guys dont' stay nice forever. They eventually learn just letting it out is better.
Literally Evan fault too , especially when Hal said he confronted him . Hal is an a hole but he got results
i mean all that is fine but evan just leaking all this to the public is the problem. they could've easily talked this out but for some reason he had to start talking shit. No one was saying shit when they were winning, it's no surprise that the two most decorated players in this game are A holes in game. if evan was unhappy he could've easily leave and play with an igl that holds his hand lol, and i'm certain he wouldn't have won shit.
Apparently he wasn’t playing the game and he didn’t like it anymore when before champs last year
@@DBurr07 That's the life of a nice guy. They don't want to hurt anybody. Then once they had enough, they let everything out all at once, then everyone is hurt.
We live in a really soft world
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Evan saying going from sea to tsm is a downgrade is the most childish thing ever. He went from 0 to the biggest org winning multiple lans be humble
Hal spitting facts
I'll be over here being an asshole winning everything and you can be over there happy while losing, haha.
Nice guys finish last. I figured that out a long time ago. You'll just get walked over being too nice. You have to be an asshole at some point.
how many times hal just touched his cap
"you cant blame others for not wanting to try if you dont try " precedes to blame verhulst for why they acted like that.... Hmmmm.....
exactly all the reasons why i like Hal !
i personal compete i high lvls in boxing, & some other things. i’m definitely a leader. i didn’t really like hal for the longest because he didn’t seem happy w tsm. u can tell the last few yrs. i said before he changed teams, i believe he should go to a new team. now u can tell how much happier he is. i enjoy watching him play now. the insults dont seem so person w dz. which i believe that’s what he’s overlooking. ppl called him names because u can tell when he was mad w tsm mates it was beyond just the game. which for any leader, it’s never viable. it’s the reason they lost these past few yrs. i also believed he should step down as main lead, & i believe w zero, it was the perfect squad. i wanted him w timmy, but he would have to lead, & it probably woulda been bad. timmy needs to become lead of his team when he’s ready, even if that means getting rid of design
Hal looks like he is 35.
passion
stress, constant anger ages u faster
Playing Apex does that.
comparing mac to evan... ouch kinda hurtful
It seems like an ex girlfiend situation
What did even say about Hal? Only saw him mention raven
unbearable to play rank with just yappin off to cHAT about Hals rage stuff like that
Evan shared his feelings and didn't call people names. Hal over here saying "leech" "bums" "cringe". His feelings are obviously hurt. IGLs rather verbally abuse their teammates than to deal with drama of a guy speaking his feelings. Evan didn't even talk shit about Hal. Lowkey those trophies can give you justification for narcissism. Hal doesn't know the different between Nice and Kind either. From the Ninja school of gaming "If you don't rage after you die, you already lost". Glad Imperialhal found a home with Falcons though.
What? Evan is airing stuff out that was supposedly resolved PRIVATELY as a team LOL. Hal even confronted Evan to see if Evan;s lack of motivation and grind was due to himself and Evan said no. In Hal's perspective they talked and the situation was resolved. Then fast forward to the podcast he throws Raven under the bus called out raven saying he fell off and got lazy near the end. But in reality it was Evan that got lazy and didn't grind. You can't coach a player if the player has given up. he then said "we all fell off" which is also a lie cos Hal continued to grind and doing his job.
Both said some stuff that seemed reasonable, other stuff that just doesn’t hold water. I still like Hal, but he is justifying his baby behavior with wins that were shared with his team. Hals argument of his behavior being synonymous with winning is BS. He says he would do anything to win, except can’t exercise the slightest discipline to behave in a way he knows would benefit the mental of his teammates, and you can find endless examples in other sports or professions on how important effective team communication is.
Hal needs to shut it seriously. He is always involved in the drama and its everyone else. WHy does he insist on disclosing personal , play play play life crap ??? maturity level zero.
Evan ain't trying to farm views lol he's just speaking how he felt he just felt to much pressure with you now he's enjoying the game again because he doesn't have you pressuring him
he also won nothing until he teamed with hal…..
@@UrbanMatts and will win nothing post hal
but evan clearly says he's drama farming in his video lol
So asking him to do his job is too much pressure
Mac Ruined the #1 esport team of all time… facts
Bronze players is crazy😂😂😂
He was exaggerating things to make his point clear, but he definitely should have clarified things after that line
He didn't mean skill level but actual rank because they weren't playing the damn game
Yep that comment is as bad as "fell off" 😂
Evan is not doing for views it just happened to come out now. And Hal has nothing to say for it because it’s true. That’s why he’s so conflicted. So what that the world is cruel it doesn’t mean you have to be a dick to your team and become part of the cruel world.
" if you cannot handle how I act in a video game boy you're have you're going to have so many more things to worry about in life that's way worse"
for my next trick, I'll justify any short comings from my temper, by pointing at how cruel the world is.
They all need to chill, I love Apex, but its just a fkn video game.
to you, they get paid more than you ever will from it🤣
It's a job to them man. When there's money on the line, you'll do what it takes.
When will mf like you ever understand that it just not game to them, they literally make living out of this
Wasnt Hal the one to bring up the behind scene stuff? why is he trying to act like a victim
Evan did
@@DBurr07 He brought up raven not hal?
I was confused about this too at first. There’s new clips of Evan shit talking Hal
@@notben7 Yeah i know.. but that was after Hal watched ravens reaction and then said shit on stream? idk lol just weird behavior
@@Strudderz yes because evan called out raven saying he fell off and got lazy near the end. but in reality it was evan that got lazy and didnt grind. You can't coach a player if the player has given up. he then said "we all fell off" which is also a lie cos hal continued to grind and doing his job.
hal just wanna tell evan and jordan not s tier players and hal wanna win money . evan rate tsm just for hype but it’s change nothing bcs tsm not be in to 10 on alga and we all know it
i predict boys tsm not be in top 20
He’s mad Hal abandoned the team after one bad season hal needs to get use to the hate if he’s going to chase championships like labron
also mentally checking your team before a land event by say i am leaving for DZ, anyone in this world would be mad about and evan is probably still mad about it
Everyone is tripping drinking the hal ade lmfao. Big E didn’t even say anything crazy and it’s all obviously true if you were watching anything lol
mac snipe evan maybe similar each other
wtf is this quality
kinda sucks but the way he's handled all this makes me not like evan lol
The fact that Hal is just such an A-hole to his friends while playing with them then wonders why they didn't want to play the game.
They were co-workers when playing the game tho, playing the game and winning is their living
Hal would be a lot more likeable if he would just admit that there are more ways to win then just being a belligerent asshole to your teammates. He constantly invokes Michael Jordan as proof that being a hardass is the only way to win while completely ignoring players like lebron, Steph or Duncan who had low conflict team communication styles (or “rainbows and sunshine” like hal puts it) and still won as much as MJ. Also for how much Kobe or MJ were assholes I would be surprised to see them say half the things hal says to reps and Evan while they were in a middle of a NBA game.
Yes there are different styles to winning and Hal's style is don't hold back, shout, rage get it all out and move on. There shouldn't be any surprise with Hal's IGLing style it's not a secret. Evan joined knowing full well what Hal is like as an IGL. Like Evan said he joined TSM as a business decision, now that they have won a few times he doesn't want to put up with it anymore.
This guy is really embarrassing. Trying to act like he’s MJ. It’s a video game bro. No one thinks you’re tough, or you’re just trying to be tough on teammates. There’s a difference between tough love, and just auto blaming your teammates for everything. It’s insanely cringe how he’s trying to act like MJ
Yeah they earn a lot of money, so it's not just a video game.
Sigster87 you couldnt be more wrong
he’s making millions playing video games and you’re broke.
@@UrbanMatts LOL. Millions?!? Sure buddy. Even if he is (he isn’t) that gravy train might last another year or so. After that? He’s fucked. No real skills.
@@sigster87 The amount of subs, viewers, ads, player contract, donations, tournament winnings and sponsorship Hal gets he is 100% making a mil PER YEAR. He knows streaming and professional Esports player is not sustainable which is why he grinds EVERYDAY to earn money and invest so he can live a comfortable life after his career.
lol if two players end up hating you to the point where they want to leave the game, that's a you problem buddy lol
U commoners all think the same
Cringe comment. None of them would have won anything if it wasn't for hal
he won them six figures they won nothing before or after playing with hal 😂
@@angelazcona7 you are wrong , ESA was a way better team than TSM back in the day , also TSM was shit before raven .
also that's not how it works buddy , anything can happens in BR
@ceskyy_5645 how am I wrong? Only hal and zero have won Lans before this last one. So I'm not wrong in any statement I made. The two most dedicated IGLs have won 90 percent of the Lans.
and what's wrong with doing things for views??? Shitting on any other monetizing avenue because it's not what you do? Nah.... i think it's Evans drama to farm... now if we start talking about Hal and his ex-gf, THEN that's LEECHING
so Evan is allowed to drama farm but hal can’t do the same 😂 logic ???
@@UrbanMatts no one said Hal couldn't. Hal himself made it seem like it's beneath him. Basically saying drama farming is cringe.
💔❤🩹 betrayal is the worst feeling ever..
Imagine big E gets with Hal ex gf 😂
@@marcosmendez8805 🤣 that would be crazyyyyy, 🤣 shiet
@@Twoshot_not_God right but I hope they stay friends
@@marcosmendez8805 ❤🔥❤🩹👍