Ibn Rushd (Averroes) - The Guardian of the Philosophers

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  • @Tepes1448
    @Tepes1448 2 місяці тому +11

    I’ve been searching for the Greeks, Chinese, Indians and now I found this incredible channel about the Arab philosophers. Thank you for your hard work!

  • @khuzaimahhaleem4994
    @khuzaimahhaleem4994 7 місяців тому +26

    Thank you Al Muqadammah for sending me here. There is no going back now

    • @mujahidhasan118
      @mujahidhasan118 2 місяці тому

      don't follow he is a libral Muslim 🤢🤮.

  • @joemccormick9109
    @joemccormick9109 3 місяці тому +6

    This is a beautiful video and a fitting testament to the legacy of Ibn Rushd

  • @frostyigloo
    @frostyigloo 4 місяці тому +33

    Can you please also make a video on Ibn Taymiyyah and his powerful critiques, discussions on the relationship between reason and revelation, epistemology, his history etc? His critiques against greek presuppositions on logic, critiques on arguments and presuppositions of earlier philosophers and his fitra based epistemology against the two fold truth theory are my favorites. some of his works are al raad al mantiq, Al-Jawab al-Sahih li-man baddala din al-Masih, dar at ta'arud al aql wa naql, etc etc... One of the most misunderstood islamic thinkers in my opinion by both ultra rationalists and ultra scripturalists.

    • @shahyawar3709
      @shahyawar3709 4 місяці тому +2

      He will be dumbing down the whole series

    • @peterwalker7861
      @peterwalker7861 3 місяці тому +1

      Lol, you're right.
      He's own book contradicts his own statements that he wrote earlier in that same book.

  • @englishtales624
    @englishtales624 4 місяці тому +6

    This is amazing ..
    May Allah bless ur work guyz .
    One suggestion
    Remain consistent cuz the potential of growth of this channel is literally huge ...

  • @freedomfighter695
    @freedomfighter695 День тому

    Waow Muslim philosophers are way ahead of their time 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮 absolute geniuses

  • @thompson6737
    @thompson6737 3 місяці тому +4

    Could you make a video about Rumi, please? He is a fascinating poem writer and figure

  • @Zeee530
    @Zeee530 7 місяців тому +6

    Brilliant stuff again, can't wait for the next

  • @Masterbutler123
    @Masterbutler123 8 місяців тому +6

    Let’s gooo! I’m hyped

  • @aChristianPhilosophy
    @aChristianPhilosophy 6 місяців тому +5

    Thomas Aquinas, a doctor of the Catholic church, gives Averroes the title of “the Commentator” for his great contribution in interpreting the works of Aristotle.
    I agree with Averroes advocating for the authority of experts: An expert is more likely to be correct about their topic of expertise than a non-expert. And better yet, a majority of experts (an expert consensus) is more likely to be correct than an individual expert. This is true not only for the sciences but also for theology. We can read and try to interpret the divine scriptures on our own, but ultimately, we should defer to the interpretation of the theologian consensus because they are the experts on the matter.
    I almost fully agree with Averroes that God is omniscient because reality conforms to His thoughts or will. This is true for most of reality, however, I believe there is an exception when it comes to human free will: Since we have free will, our behaviour conforms to our will and not God’s will. To preserve God’s omniscience, we would say that God knows our free-willed behaviour by observing it, and He foreknows it because God is not in time.

    • @GraceCole-qy6ul
      @GraceCole-qy6ul 2 місяці тому

      The first step is to understand that absolute power means you likely cannot fathom God’s true nature. When god “is,” that is a statement with a lot to unpack (lol puns 🤌🏻).

    • @aChristianPhilosophy
      @aChristianPhilosophy 2 місяці тому

      @@GraceCole-qy6ul I agree that it is hard to imagine the full content of a being with absolute power. But we can understand the general idea: Omnipotence means the ability to do anything that is logically and causally possible. Thus, as long as an act does not violate the laws of logic or causality, then it can be done by the omnipotent being.

  • @skullnetwork4482
    @skullnetwork4482 8 місяців тому +9

    You forgot to mention that he was also called the commentator because of his short, medium and long commentary on Aristotle's work

    • @OasesOfWisdom
      @OasesOfWisdom  8 місяців тому +5

      Thanks for the feedback. Our writer did consider going with the "commentator", however, we wanted to go with something a bit more striking. We hope to cover the commentaries of Aristotle of the many Islamic philosophers in a separate video one day as well.

  • @ummumar9207
    @ummumar9207 8 місяців тому +3

    Bravo- thanks for simplifying this topic for the masses.

  • @skullnetwork4482
    @skullnetwork4482 8 місяців тому +4

    So excited 🎉😋

  • @ANTIHYTLERS
    @ANTIHYTLERS 5 місяців тому +6

    Great philosopher from cordoba 🇪🇦🇪🇦

    • @mrbeard798
      @mrbeard798 4 місяці тому +2

      Spain? Nah, Al-andalus

    • @ANTIHYTLERS
      @ANTIHYTLERS 4 місяці тому +2

      @@mrbeard798 Al Andalus is Spain nos.

    • @mrbeard798
      @mrbeard798 4 місяці тому +1

      @@ANTIHYTLERS very different, both have a different and a well respected history and culture. Al-andalus are Muslims and Spain are Christians.

    • @ANTIHYTLERS
      @ANTIHYTLERS 4 місяці тому +1

      @@mrbeard798 And Román Hispania was pagan, and ancient iberia was iberic and Celtic.
      But all of them were part of Spain culture.

    • @mrbeard798
      @mrbeard798 4 місяці тому

      @@ANTIHYTLERS both of them are different, that’s like comparing the Norway right now with the Vikings. And like I said, both of them are great but they’re different

  • @Islamicepistemology
    @Islamicepistemology 4 місяці тому +1

    Loved your slow yet mesmerising voice and enriched content ❤❤❤

  • @032ithaseeb9
    @032ithaseeb9 8 місяців тому +3

    You were alive ❤

    • @OasesOfWisdom
      @OasesOfWisdom  8 місяців тому +2

      Always! Our videos take time to research and edit and our studies and work can get in the way sometimes. Rest assured that we are committed to continuing these series and continuing to deliver high quality content on topics we are passionate about

  • @hellcatstrackhawks9502
    @hellcatstrackhawks9502 8 місяців тому +5

    Love your vids! Can you create a series that explains how the governments of the first four khulafah and Salahuddin functioned, including their achievements?

    • @OasesOfWisdom
      @OasesOfWisdom  8 місяців тому +8

      We plan on doing a series on Islamic political philosophy once our regular series ends :) hopefully the wait won’t be too long

    • @hellcatstrackhawks9502
      @hellcatstrackhawks9502 8 місяців тому +5

      @@OasesOfWisdomGreat! May Allah SWT bless u guys and ur families for the work u do :)

    • @OasesOfWisdom
      @OasesOfWisdom  8 місяців тому +6

      Ameen

    • @khadijachaibi7183
      @khadijachaibi7183 17 днів тому

      @@OasesOfWisdom can't wait!

  • @mohammadrashid5077
    @mohammadrashid5077 3 місяці тому +3

    Thanks!

    • @OasesOfWisdom
      @OasesOfWisdom  3 місяці тому +1

      Thanks so much :) we’re glad you enjoyed our video

  • @erk1309
    @erk1309 8 місяців тому +2

    Great work

  • @lv4077
    @lv4077 2 місяці тому +2

    I’ve always been curious as to why a religious person who believes that God created everything would have such difficulty believing he could manufacture you one more time he’s done it once.

  • @AbdullahSama
    @AbdullahSama 8 місяців тому +9

    The video is visually stunning but does not provide any additional information that hasn't already been presented by other content creators before.
    Some things you could've added to improve the video:
    • There are many things that can be discussed like how Ibn Rushd thought that the masses should not think of God corporeally or incorporeally, but rather as light since that's the metaphor the Qur'an describes Him with.
    • You could've spoken about his reconciliation between Qadar and Jabr despite the conflicting verses in the Qur'an that appear to support both.
    • You could've spoken about the position he took regarding the relationship between the material intellect and the agent intellect in his long commentary on the De Anima since that's fundamental to his philosophical worldview.
    • You could've spoken about his affirmation of direction in the right of God.
    • You could've provided his design arguments.
    • You could've spoken about his feud with al-Juwayni, not just al-Ghazali since the latter is already known.
    • You could've spoken about his achievements in medicine more since that's an aspect which is mostly ignored.
    Some things you could've avoided to improve the video:
    • Shouldn't give the impression that you are measuring the success of a Muslim philosopher by looking at how he was received in the West and how much influence he excreted on pagans as if the worth of our heritage is dependent on what they make of it. This is how you started off the video.
    • Shouldn't give the impression that Ibn Rushd just thought of the Qur'an as symbols and metaphors that are strictly there to appease the masses. in his Fasl al-Maqal, he argues that even though there are verses in the Qur'an you can reinterpret in order to conform to philosophy, usually when you do a comprehensive reading of the Qur'an, you'll understand that the apparent meaning of the verses and the philosophical position are in agreement.

    • @OasesOfWisdom
      @OasesOfWisdom  8 місяців тому +10

      Hey, thanks for the detailed feedback. With an average 10 minute run time of our videos it’s incredibly difficult to touch on everything in a single video, especially when trying to make it appealing to people who arent already familiar with the philosophical background.
      Among the topics we considered covering for our videos included Ibn Rushd’s commentaries of Aristotle (short, medium and long) , a more detailed version of the design argument and the conflict between qadr and jabr.
      Regarding Aristotle, pretty much every philosopher we have covered has had something to stay about Aristotle and it would become overly complex to provide a commentary on Aristotle himself as well as the more Islamic focussed philosophy that we are covering.
      For the design argument, you may have seen that we briefly touched on it, but we definitely could have spent more time explaining it. This is the same with Ibn Rushd’s hermeneutics on scripture. We did specify in the video that it was upon the ‘ambiguous’ verses that Ibn Rushd believed that philosophers could do work on ‘uncovering’ the meaning of - while the rest of the people were stuck with the symbolic meaning. So I believe we did mention your point about the distinction between interpreting certain deep and not-so-deep verses but of course, more detail can always be outlined.
      Finally, concerning pre-destination and free will, this is another topic that many of the thinkers in our series have written upon. Rest assured that we will cover this topic eventually, however, in the context of a theology series. For example, we didn’t cover Al-Ghazali’s atomism on our video for him, even though it’s fundamental to his metaphysics, because we wanted to discuss that on a seperate video on Ashari metaphysics.
      As a more general point, I can appreciate that not every viewer is going to resonate with the framing of our videos. We have designed our philosophy series so that there is some interplay between each successive video. That is why there was such a large emphasis on Al-Ghazali as he was the figure we covered last. In trying to tell the history of philosophy and keep it entertaining you need to leverage thematic and narrative story telling techniques that not everyone will find compelling. We generally try to find interesting facts and anecdotes about each of our personalities so that there’s a hook for as broad of an audience as possible. I apologise if you got the impression that we were basing Ibn Rushd’s legacy on the metric of Western reception but to us we just found his inclusion in the School of Athens painting fascinating. Part of the reason we try to downplay Aristotle is that we do believe that these thinkers are independent from the Western canon in many ways - and our intention is to draw attention to this. We are in no way trying to assert some sort of Western supremacy.
      Anyways, I appreciate the feedback. It’s quite rare to get detailed feedback like this. We will definitely keep it in mind going forward, but it’s also really difficult deciding which content to keep and which to leave from our research documents which can be up to 50 pages long 😅.
      Thanks once again,

    • @maryamb9865
      @maryamb9865 8 місяців тому

      keep ur opnion in a diary next time xoxo

    • @AbdullahSama
      @AbdullahSama 8 місяців тому +5

      Thank you for sharing your perspective. Definitely one of the best channels out there giving what needs exposure more exposure.@@OasesOfWisdom

    • @asvadkhan9692
      @asvadkhan9692 7 місяців тому

      ​@AbdullahSama
      You seem to know a lot about this stuff, would you mind pointing me in the right direction so I could pick up on some of these bits in detail?

  • @somerandomguy4579
    @somerandomguy4579 7 місяців тому +2

    I saw a pretty good Egyptian movie about that guy. The only movie in Arabic I've ever seen lol great video by the way

    • @zax4produce
      @zax4produce 4 місяці тому +1

      what is the name of the film?

    • @moosahamad9732
      @moosahamad9732 2 місяці тому +1

      @@zax4produceit’s called Destiny

  • @jacksoninc.4062
    @jacksoninc.4062 7 місяців тому +4

    Alhamdulillah, i found out that this channel is still alive. Are you guys gonna do Ibn Taymiyyah next? Or are you guys gonna go to Imam Malik instead?

    • @OasesOfWisdom
      @OasesOfWisdom  7 місяців тому +3

      Next will be a special video and then Imam Malik :)

    • @OasesOfWisdom
      @OasesOfWisdom  7 місяців тому +2

      We will do Ibn Taymiyyah in a later series on theologians

    • @jacksoninc.4062
      @jacksoninc.4062 7 місяців тому +1

      @@OasesOfWisdom special? Masya Allah, brother. Can't wait for your next video
      Also, knowing Imam Malik is gonna be after this is nice. I just hope everything runs smooth so i can see Imam Syafi'i

    • @jacksoninc.4062
      @jacksoninc.4062 7 місяців тому +1

      @@OasesOfWisdom Masya Allah, you even have plans for later. If this is all running smoothly, by 2027, this channel is gonna be integral for Islamic Academics bcs of how well put together the whole content is. Praying this channel will grow more and more 🙏🙏

  • @ediz243
    @ediz243 8 місяців тому +2

    Finally 🎉🎉

  • @OMAR-REZA-HAMiM-77
    @OMAR-REZA-HAMiM-77 8 місяців тому +10

    Ibn Rushd is Literally Me 💚

  • @abreshmina2641
    @abreshmina2641 11 днів тому

    please do a video on ibn khaldun!

  • @azad9674
    @azad9674 Місяць тому

    Could you do something about Fakhruddīn ar-Razi? He was arguably the greatest thinker of his age
    Great Video btw:)

  • @Sam66519
    @Sam66519 4 місяці тому +1

    This is a brilliant channel. Any more like this?

    • @OasesOfWisdom
      @OasesOfWisdom  4 місяці тому +1

      We have several videos on our channel and are working on a new video which should be released within the next few months. We will continue uploading new videos, although they take long to produce and we both are working on our post grad work at University :)

  • @smma593
    @smma593 8 місяців тому +1

    Ibn Rushd's clap-back was the Meek Mills side of Meek Mills V. Drake. 😂

  • @MohamedAhmed-or8dc
    @MohamedAhmed-or8dc 8 місяців тому +4

    this the greatest video i have ever watch !

  • @Zoronoro1
    @Zoronoro1 20 днів тому

    4:15 convo so good he got gifts, 😂

  • @fbng
    @fbng 5 місяців тому +2

    Make a video on Imam Fakhr din al-Razi, Ibn Arabi, Imam Abu Mansur al-Maturidi?

    • @OasesOfWisdom
      @OasesOfWisdom  5 місяців тому +1

      All of these videos are planned for the future don’t worry

  • @azeeznabulsi116
    @azeeznabulsi116 8 місяців тому +3

    Hectic video

  • @abdullahassaffah
    @abdullahassaffah 4 місяці тому +1

    while none of ibn rushd theological positions were outright disbelief, he did try to defend the validity of certain philosophical stances that were completely at odds with the Qur’an and Sunna. For which reason, scholars have cautioned from taking his views wholesale.

  • @muhammadwasif1
    @muhammadwasif1 4 місяці тому +1

    Video on Imam Ja'far as well please

    • @OasesOfWisdom
      @OasesOfWisdom  4 місяці тому

      We have a video on Imam Ja’afar planned in our Madhab series :)

  • @Moh-xr1ch
    @Moh-xr1ch 3 місяці тому +1

    Ibn ruschd was from the luwata tribe in cordoba an was of Berber origin. He wasnt arab, he was only shooled in arabic an spoke arabic. It doesent matter where he is from but i just wanted to mention it.

  • @fathallahelfatehy3279
    @fathallahelfatehy3279 4 місяці тому +1

    Can you do a video about Ibn Khaldoun, keep up the good work!

    • @OasesOfWisdom
      @OasesOfWisdom  4 місяці тому +1

      Thanks so much! I’d love to know where you heard of our channel from. We’ve experienced a lot of growth over the last few days :)

    • @fathallahelfatehy3279
      @fathallahelfatehy3279 4 місяці тому +1

      @@OasesOfWisdom The algorithm must be doing its work I suppose, I'm already subs to similar channels I think that's why your vids were recommended. Greetings from Morocco!✌

    • @OasesOfWisdom
      @OasesOfWisdom  4 місяці тому +1

      Ah very interesting. I thought someone perhaps shared our video somewhere. Glad to know our content is finally getting out to people who’d enjoy it.

    • @wee26th
      @wee26th 3 місяці тому +1

      @@fathallahelfatehy3279 AYYY i'm also from Morocco!

    • @fathallahelfatehy3279
      @fathallahelfatehy3279 3 місяці тому

      @@wee26th Nice ana men Casablanca and u?

  • @iamleoooo
    @iamleoooo 8 місяців тому +3

    Typo on the thumbnail?

    • @OasesOfWisdom
      @OasesOfWisdom  8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for pointing it out! Will fix soon

  • @fecrsqraper12
    @fecrsqraper12 7 місяців тому +1

    could we have an episode for Fakhr al-Din al-Razi any time soon?

  • @Seruna9
    @Seruna9 6 місяців тому +5

    Ibn Rushd was a great pioneer of rationalism. However, his philosophy is amatuer at best. Some internet philosophers really think he debunked Al-Ghazali, lol. most of the Mutakallimun absolutely mog him into oblivion too.

    • @JohnSmith-mo1zo
      @JohnSmith-mo1zo 4 місяці тому +2

      His philosophy had some flaws yes, but this was discovered in the west and corrected. The Muslim world chose dogma and ossification and killed a beautiful tradition out of ignorance.

    • @Seruna9
      @Seruna9 4 місяці тому

      @@JohnSmith-mo1zo the western tradition is also far behind the Islamic Kalām tradition.

    • @nowie4007
      @nowie4007 8 днів тому

      ​This must be why the west is so ahead of Muslim world in science and technology today right?, I am a Muslim and I do believe that westerners benefitted from promoting rationalism while Muslim world slowly started regressing as they moved away from Philosophy and science and became so far behind the Europeans that they were easily colonized@@Seruna9

  • @MrExtraordinaire16
    @MrExtraordinaire16 День тому

    I like your voice.

  • @Erenali.98
    @Erenali.98 5 місяців тому +2

    If we were to go off of the series of events that superseded their works, I think Ghazali had it right. Based on how much İbn Rushd means to the West's "Enlightenment"
    Then again, to refute myself. İf we look at his works as a powerful tool, things in the world could have gone way differently if the muslim world held his teachings in such regard. Maybe we'd be better off, maybe not.
    Allahu alem :)

    • @JohnSmith-mo1zo
      @JohnSmith-mo1zo 4 місяці тому +2

      Nobody in the west regrets having accepted the gift that you rejected. We will take reason over thoughtless adherence to dogma.

    • @aashirali2172
      @aashirali2172 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@JohnSmith-mo1zo Thoughtless adherence to dogma??? If you read Al Ghazali's actual works it's pretty clear he used reason to formulate his arguments. He at many points agrees with Aristotle on logic. He just did not think the ideas of philosophers at the time were logically consistent. The arguments he formulated for God's existence and infinite regression are still used by theologians in the west. It's quite weird why people think he is the reason philosophy/science declined in islamic history and they just completely disregard what politics had to do with the decline.

    • @pratikashranjande7833
      @pratikashranjande7833 Місяць тому

      ​@@aashirali2172 I think it is more of so due to the correlation that the orthodox of Muslims and Muslims in general, prefer Al Ghazali overtly. .

  • @pradyumn2692
    @pradyumn2692 3 місяці тому

    Are you sure that person in the painting is Ibn Rushd and not Avicenna ?

  • @The_journey_just_started
    @The_journey_just_started 4 місяці тому

    thank you

  • @cherryblossoms-wp8pd
    @cherryblossoms-wp8pd 5 місяців тому

    he was the first philosopher who believed i women's right and equality

  • @kalactose348
    @kalactose348 4 місяці тому +1

    Woooooo!!!!!!!!

  • @messithegoat6523
    @messithegoat6523 7 місяців тому +1

    where have u been my friend

    • @OasesOfWisdom
      @OasesOfWisdom  7 місяців тому

      We’ve been hard at work on this video and busy with uni. Don’t worry. We will continue to make videos :)

    • @messithegoat6523
      @messithegoat6523 7 місяців тому +1

      @@OasesOfWisdom u guys go uni and are educating me philosophically pls try do a video on the golden age a brief history I know it’s a long time but you guys will find a a way 😅

  • @MuhammadAamir-dj9lg
    @MuhammadAamir-dj9lg 4 місяці тому

    Reference of last quote??

  • @AbdullahKhan-qf8km
    @AbdullahKhan-qf8km 8 місяців тому +1

    good video saar, but where are the hanbalis, please saar.

    • @OasesOfWisdom
      @OasesOfWisdom  8 місяців тому +1

      We are continuing with the Madhab series and will cover Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal once we have covered Imam Malik and Imam Shafi in chronological order inshallah. Stay tuned :)

    • @cupman4270
      @cupman4270 3 місяці тому

      ​@@OasesOfWisdom Can you make a video about Shiekh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah رحمه الله 🙂

  • @AhmedHussain-hu5jw
    @AhmedHussain-hu5jw 2 місяці тому

    References??

  • @Omar-uc7zd
    @Omar-uc7zd 4 місяці тому

    You should add your sources

  • @avveroes
    @avveroes 8 місяців тому +2

    Make an video on Ahmed rida khan

    • @OasesOfWisdom
      @OasesOfWisdom  8 місяців тому +1

      Hi! We hope to one day make a video or series covering the intellectual history of the Deobandis and Barelvis as it is a theme many people are interested in! Stay tuned and please continue to support our work :)

  • @MrJesseBell
    @MrJesseBell 3 місяці тому

    Sounds like he believed he could understand poetry better than myself. This explains why he defaults to the Quran when attempting to think for himself.

  • @ahmadqadri2389
    @ahmadqadri2389 8 місяців тому +2

    I am so excited for this one. Ibn Rushd was an elitist tho LOL XD

  • @gormit0
    @gormit0 3 місяці тому

    Ibn khatir....

  • @invisiblesouls313
    @invisiblesouls313 8 місяців тому

    Diamond is rear

  • @JordanPeterson-bb9zt
    @JordanPeterson-bb9zt 8 місяців тому

    Who is milo?

  • @dragonninja872
    @dragonninja872 4 місяці тому

    big M top G the magnificent? HAHAHA