It seems like Rory values Jess's opinion the most, both in GG and in AYITL. He convinces her to return to Yale and he suggests she should write a book about her and Lorelai.
I don't blame Jess for being surprised by Rory. If you watch their last interaction before this, she was a COMPLETELY different person. It's crazy how people can change you
Probably the saddest thing in this whole exchange is when Rory finally admits genuinely that she doesn’t know - and Jess instead of comforting her closes off and walks away. Sad for Rory but probably smart for Jess and he realizes he’s done his growing up and Rory hasn’t - and she isn’t ready for him. And as it turns out - never would be
I initially hated Jess in initial seasons of Gilmore Girls, but this moment right here made me like him a lot better. I'm glad he made Rory reconsider dropping out of Yale and joining the DAR. Logan's father is to blame for her poor choices.
@@tristenmoore1275 no don't blame Logan father For Rory bruised Ego Dropping out of Yale that was her choice over one mean comment Plus she is a grown up her Bad choices áre her own fault Not Even Logan
@@laurafabianmarrerono no no if someone comments something especially coming from someone like Logan’s father if they say oh ur amazing ur ganna believe it because you would think they know the most but if they say something like u are not good or I think u suck at writing it’s just a example of whatever he told her etc…….. ur ganna believe that plus it’s ganna make u feel insecure and think all this work and I am actually not good and it must be true coming from someone like that and it’s ganna make you think it’s not worth it and I am not ganna do this anymore I am just wasting my time so you get the picture now.
@@myayanes1518 go back and watch It again He didnt said You suck at writing He said she doesnt have what It takes to be a journalist She is missing the Drive to get things done And that he is been around in the business for years and he is harly ever wrong Not about this and sadly he wasnt wrong
I’ve always said Logan was Rory christopher(her dad). Sweet and crazy about her but not good for her. Brings out her worst. Then Jess is her Luke. Not your typical choice and has his flaws too, but sees her at her core. I think give it many years and Jess would have matured into a better option.
Jess was totally right here about logan and rory's decision to drop out of yale glad he got his life together out of all of rory's boyfriends he truly did grew into a better person yes he made bad choices and was reckless when he was younger but he did learn from them
This scene always bothered me this would have been a perfect moment for Jess and Rory to catch up and bond and Logan with his stupid Porche had to ruin everything. I always wondered that Jess was going to take opportunity to be a motivated speaker talk some sense to Rory saying stuff like once upon a time I was a nobody I was going nowhere and then I met you and you showed me I have a purpose to do something with my life and now I want to return the favor saying Rory Gilmore you are extraordinary intelligent woman. I think is foolish for you to drop out off an Ivy League school whatever the reason was I don’t think is worth it for you to throw your life away. In roughly translation he did but I think this was supposed a sit down calm conversation. But stupid Logan had to push his buttons. I agree with Jess early Rory would never go out with a guy like that. Team Jess All the way🩷
Early, Rory would totally go out with Logan because he is great and was a great boyfriend to Rory. Logan had nothing to do with Rory's decision of dropping out of Yale. She dropped out because Mitchum made her doubt about being good at Journalism (Logan is not responsible for his father actions).
@@cotygv The same Jess that tried to get her to leave Yale and run away with him gets credit for talking her into going back, lol. But Logan was being a supportive boyfriend to her when she freaked out and quit Yale and somehow that was his fault. Jess is such a great guy when he is NOT in Rory's life. But as a friend/boyfriend in Stars Hollow he was an absolute ass.
@@LB-gz3ke jess was by no means a saint here. he only reminded rory where she belongs and rory took the steps. but logan? "being a supportive bf when she freaked out and quit yale" he literally did nothing. he enjoyed having rory by his side to take to parties and bars, so he literally didn't say anything and went along with it, even when he sees how she drifts away from her mother with whom she has such a strong relationship with. being supportive means actually asking what's going on and making sure she's okay, encouraging her. not going along with all that she does just cause it makes it favorable for him to enjoy parties and go to bars with her.
You'll never convince me to like Logan. Like yes I know he's a product of his own ridiculous affluence and for all of that's he's hardly the worst....but nope.
I'm in a GG fan group on Facebook, and the Logan fans are SOOOO offended that I don't like him. They need to get over it. I have plenty of reason not to.
I’m actually not even sure about which one is the best, I’ve honestly thought that the major problem in the series is Rory herself, but that’s not the point. The fact is that I honestly don’t prefer one or the other, but they are two amazing guys (imo) that happen to do stupid (or bad) stuff from time to time; Jess has done bad stuff before, been very territorial and rude to Dean, didn’t ask for consent from her, and he’s messed up in a lot of ways, Logan here is the jerk, no doubt about that, but he’s sweet, relatively down to earth (while Rory is almost always reminding others of her surname and intellectual superiority), he listens, he talks and communicates. So, well. They’re both a walking half-red flag, but that doesn’t make either of them a monster, they mess up big, because they’re people, and once reminded, they understand and feel guilty, which is a sign that they’re good people, but this story is about how they grow up and change. In the end (the end of the og series), you understand how they’ve become two (with Dean, three) mature men that have so much goodness to give, each in their respective lives.
Wow 🤩 this show ended up in 2007 but so many people still like it. Through it’s been more than ten years ago.. already. It just seems funny to me. I’m really enjoy that fact
Yeah Logan is a complete snob and I'll never understand the people who defend him. I don't even have a problem with him not urging Rory to go back to Yale because I get that he thought just giving her some time to figure herself out was a better course of action, and that's fine, but the way he talks to Jess in this clip? Offering to pay, trying to humiliate him by showing off how oh so well-read he is? It's pathetic and condescending. Stuff like this, the way he first talked about Marty, or his 'game' of stealing trinkets from various houses (probably getting countless maids fired in the process and not giving a shit) all show that he'd internalised his family's classist bs, no matter how much he wanted to pretend he was rebelling against it.
If think about it, Logan & Jess both grew up & got their acts together after having a relationship with Rory. Fans don’t seem to have nice things to say about her, but they can’t say she wasn’t a positive influence on these guys
Wasn't Jess the one who wanted Rory to runaway with him and leave school back in season 4. Yall give this man way too much credit , and it's just laughable.
Lol, Jess is forgiven for all of his crappy behavior by his legion of fans. But Logan being jealous of his girlfriend meeting up with an old boyfriend while he is out of town is a major sin.
@@LB-gz3ke it is extremely hypocritical that logan can freely hang out with his "girl" friends (bobby at london), exes and people he has had sex with (honor's bridesmaids) at parties and can talk to them casually while being with rory BUT god forbid rory has dinner with an ex whom she doesn't even have any inappropriate interactions with at emily's house and were only planning to spend time eating and talking.
lorelai asks luke to elope with him in s7. does that mean lorelai wanted luke to abandon his kid and the diner? no. y'all don't have an ounce of media literacy. both lorelai and jess in those respective situations behave so awfully in desperation and are literally begging for something cause they are not in their right minds. and your first conclusion is "jess wanted rory to quit yale and live with him forever". jess literally doesn't have a single thought to go and meet rory at yale until he's wrongly motivated by luke's advice and self help book, he's so desperate and trying to speak from the top of his mind, anything that will convince rory to be with him. he literally doesn't even know what to speak. rory asks "why are you here", he says "i don't know" and suddenly out of nowhere he's like "come with me. let's be together" and your first thought is "he wants rory to drop out, not study and run away with him"?? lmfao. this and the lorelai scene is made to depict jess and lorelai's desperation. jess has several instances in s2 and s3 where he genuinely wants rory to succeed. you could say "okay, well he wants rory to succeed only when it is favorable to him"....he hates school, he doesn't plan on going to college in s2 itself, and he still encourages rory to chase her dreams and go for it even if it means he would be someone who didn't have any educational qualifications while rory would go to places like yale, harvard etc. how does that in anyway put him in a favorable light? if he was truly selfish, he would never want rory to succeed more than him and he never once in the show acts that way, only quite the opposite.
@@zumann874 Not a good enough comparison. Logan never been with Bobby, they were just business partners in S7. Let’s be real now, although Rory never told Jess upfront, Jess was for sure there to get back with his ex. He got his act together, he writing a book, dude wasn’t just trying to catch up with an old friend.
Jess seems manipulative sometimes. Coming out of blue with all the history between him and rory and then askimg such things. Over the top. And forgive the relationship
I love how Jess didn’t take the bait - he was so classy in this interaction
And really showed Logan’s insecurity
the iconic line "wHy DiD yOu DrOp OuT oF YALEEEEE?"
SEE he was the only one who truly got her
Even if they werent together
He wasn’t wrong it’s not her she dreamed of going to Yale
Says the guy who tried to convince her to leave Yale
After everything Lorelei, Richard, Emily, and Luke tried to do, Jess is the one who finally knocked some sense back into her.
And then he disappears
After a few lines. Probably the most classy thing pov
@@fazeelanaveen6275 He didn't live there anymore.
he yelled at her at the right time. if he had done it at the same time Lorelai did, nothing would have happened
It seems like Rory values Jess's opinion the most, both in GG and in AYITL. He convinces her to return to Yale and he suggests she should write a book about her and Lorelai.
“You seem concerned with length” 🤣
Love that irresponsible Jess was the one to convince her to go back to responsibility
I don't blame Jess for being surprised by Rory. If you watch their last interaction before this, she was a COMPLETELY different person. It's crazy how people can change you
Crazy and scary!
Only Jess could SMACK Rory back to reality. Thank God!
Exactly
Probably the saddest thing in this whole exchange is when Rory finally admits genuinely that she doesn’t know - and Jess instead of comforting her closes off and walks away. Sad for Rory but probably smart for Jess and he realizes he’s done his growing up and Rory hasn’t - and she isn’t ready for him. And as it turns out - never would be
He made the smart move to walk away form a person who is inmature. No use wasting his time.
I love that Jess was able to knock some sense back into Rory.
He’s also the one that gave her the idea to write a book
I initially hated Jess in initial seasons of Gilmore Girls, but this moment right here made me like him a lot better. I'm glad he made Rory reconsider dropping out of Yale and joining the DAR. Logan's father is to blame for her poor choices.
@@tristenmoore1275 no don't blame Logan father
For Rory bruised Ego
Dropping out of Yale that was her choice over one mean comment
Plus she is a grown up her Bad choices áre her own fault
Not Even Logan
@@laurafabianmarrerono no no if someone comments something especially coming from someone like Logan’s father if they say oh ur amazing ur ganna believe it because you would think they know the most but if they say something like u are not good or I think u suck at writing it’s just a example of whatever he told her etc…….. ur ganna believe that plus it’s ganna make u feel insecure and think all this work and I am actually not good and it must be true coming from someone like that and it’s ganna make you think it’s not worth it and I am not ganna do this anymore I am just wasting my time so you get the picture now.
@@myayanes1518 go back and watch It again
He didnt said You suck at writing
He said she doesnt have what It takes to be a journalist
She is missing the Drive to get things done
And that he is been around in the business for years and he is harly ever wrong
Not about this and sadly he wasnt wrong
I’ve always said Logan was Rory christopher(her dad). Sweet and crazy about her but not good for her. Brings out her worst. Then Jess is her Luke. Not your typical choice and has his flaws too, but sees her at her core. I think give it many years and Jess would have matured into a better option.
Agree
I always hated Logan. Jess may not have always had his shit together but I liked him with Rory.
Logan was such an asshoke here - and so unnecessarily too
Godd if only lorelai knew that it was jess who got Rory back on track... I wonder what she would have had to say on that
Thank You so much .that is what she would have said
"Why did you DROP OUT OF YALE?!?"
‘Am I interrupting something?’ Right off the bat
Jesus say hello Logan
Rory is allowed to have guy friends
Hes a ex you dimwit. You CANNOT go somewhere with an ex. Let alone behind your partners back
@@niranjanrajesh1058but he didn’t know that lol
Jess's emotional words, here -- some of the best in the whole series!!!!!!!!!
4:36 he remembered her birthday 😢😢❤❤ team jess forever!
Apart from being a jerk himself most of the time. This is a great moment Jess being what Rory needed
I loved how mature jess is here 💚
Jess was totally right here about logan and rory's decision to drop out of yale glad he got his life together out of all of rory's boyfriends he truly did grew into a better person yes he made bad choices and was reckless when he was younger but he did learn from them
This scene always bothered me this would have been a perfect moment for Jess and Rory to catch up and bond and Logan with his stupid Porche had to ruin everything. I always wondered that Jess was going to take opportunity to be a motivated speaker talk some sense to Rory saying stuff like once upon a time I was a nobody I was going nowhere and then I met you and you showed me I have a purpose to do something with my life and now I want to return the favor saying Rory Gilmore you are extraordinary intelligent woman. I think is foolish for you to drop out off an Ivy League school whatever the reason was I don’t think is worth it for you to throw your life away. In roughly translation he did but I think this was supposed a sit down calm conversation. But stupid Logan had to push his buttons. I agree with Jess early Rory would never go out with a guy like that. Team Jess All the way🩷
You Jess fans have selective memory when it comes to him, I swear.
Early, Rory would totally go out with Logan because he is great and was a great boyfriend to Rory. Logan had nothing to do with Rory's decision of dropping out of Yale. She dropped out because Mitchum made her doubt about being good at Journalism (Logan is not responsible for his father actions).
@@cotygv The same Jess that tried to get her to leave Yale and run away with him gets credit for talking her into going back, lol. But Logan was being a supportive boyfriend to her when she freaked out and quit Yale and somehow that was his fault. Jess is such a great guy when he is NOT in Rory's life. But as a friend/boyfriend in Stars Hollow he was an absolute ass.
@@LB-gz3keYo chill out your speaking too much truth bra.
@@LB-gz3ke jess was by no means a saint here. he only reminded rory where she belongs and rory took the steps. but logan? "being a supportive bf when she freaked out and quit yale" he literally did nothing. he enjoyed having rory by his side to take to parties and bars, so he literally didn't say anything and went along with it, even when he sees how she drifts away from her mother with whom she has such a strong relationship with. being supportive means actually asking what's going on and making sure she's okay, encouraging her. not going along with all that she does just cause it makes it favorable for him to enjoy parties and go to bars with her.
Logan is jelaous, he know, deepth in his heart that Jess is 3 level abowe of him...
Jess and rory are perfect together! But the perfect match rarely works! It's too unfair and sad!!!!
You'll never convince me to like Logan.
Like yes I know he's a product of his own ridiculous affluence and for all of that's he's hardly the worst....but nope.
I'm in a GG fan group on Facebook, and the Logan fans are SOOOO offended that I don't like him. They need to get over it. I have plenty of reason not to.
I’m actually not even sure about which one is the best, I’ve honestly thought that the major problem in the series is Rory herself, but that’s not the point. The fact is that I honestly don’t prefer one or the other, but they are two amazing guys (imo) that happen to do stupid (or bad) stuff from time to time; Jess has done bad stuff before, been very territorial and rude to Dean, didn’t ask for consent from her, and he’s messed up in a lot of ways, Logan here is the jerk, no doubt about that, but he’s sweet, relatively down to earth (while Rory is almost always reminding others of her surname and intellectual superiority), he listens, he talks and communicates. So, well. They’re both a walking half-red flag, but that doesn’t make either of them a monster, they mess up big, because they’re people, and once reminded, they understand and feel guilty, which is a sign that they’re good people, but this story is about how they grow up and change. In the end (the end of the og series), you understand how they’ve become two (with Dean, three) mature men that have so much goodness to give, each in their respective lives.
When Jess talks rory listens!!
Wow 🤩 this show ended up in 2007 but so many people still like it. Through it’s been more than ten years ago.. already. It just seems funny to me. I’m really enjoy that fact
more like Logan beefs with Jess
Jess was the one
But, was Rory the one for Jess?
It had to be someone that wasnt family to push her back
Yeah Logan is a complete snob and I'll never understand the people who defend him. I don't even have a problem with him not urging Rory to go back to Yale because I get that he thought just giving her some time to figure herself out was a better course of action, and that's fine, but the way he talks to Jess in this clip? Offering to pay, trying to humiliate him by showing off how oh so well-read he is? It's pathetic and condescending. Stuff like this, the way he first talked about Marty, or his 'game' of stealing trinkets from various houses (probably getting countless maids fired in the process and not giving a shit) all show that he'd internalised his family's classist bs, no matter how much he wanted to pretend he was rebelling against it.
I didn’t like Jess when they were together but here he was what she needed
Logan was always unbearable to me. Lol
If think about it, Logan & Jess both grew up & got their acts together after having a relationship with Rory.
Fans don’t seem to have nice things to say about her, but they can’t say she wasn’t a positive influence on these guys
I love Jess! But something about walking away all the time doesn’t sit right! If he cared he would stick around more but he takes the easy way out.
I freaking never liked Logan. Such a brat.
Rory does have a man problem not knowing who she was.
More like Logan belittles Jess. This was painful to watch.
Kinda glad Logan gave Jess hard time, dude did the SAME THING to Dean. Karma.
Guys can really compete 🤨
Wasn't Jess the one who wanted Rory to runaway with him and leave school back in season 4. Yall give this man way too much credit , and it's just laughable.
Lol, Jess is forgiven for all of his crappy behavior by his legion of fans. But Logan being jealous of his girlfriend meeting up with an old boyfriend while he is out of town is a major sin.
@@LB-gz3ke Fax. They not ready for that conversation though
@@LB-gz3ke it is extremely hypocritical that logan can freely hang out with his "girl" friends (bobby at london), exes and people he has had sex with (honor's bridesmaids) at parties and can talk to them casually while being with rory BUT god forbid rory has dinner with an ex whom she doesn't even have any inappropriate interactions with at emily's house and were only planning to spend time eating and talking.
lorelai asks luke to elope with him in s7. does that mean lorelai wanted luke to abandon his kid and the diner? no. y'all don't have an ounce of media literacy. both lorelai and jess in those respective situations behave so awfully in desperation and are literally begging for something cause they are not in their right minds. and your first conclusion is "jess wanted rory to quit yale and live with him forever". jess literally doesn't have a single thought to go and meet rory at yale until he's wrongly motivated by luke's advice and self help book, he's so desperate and trying to speak from the top of his mind, anything that will convince rory to be with him. he literally doesn't even know what to speak. rory asks "why are you here", he says "i don't know" and suddenly out of nowhere he's like "come with me. let's be together" and your first thought is "he wants rory to drop out, not study and run away with him"?? lmfao. this and the lorelai scene is made to depict jess and lorelai's desperation. jess has several instances in s2 and s3 where he genuinely wants rory to succeed. you could say "okay, well he wants rory to succeed only when it is favorable to him"....he hates school, he doesn't plan on going to college in s2 itself, and he still encourages rory to chase her dreams and go for it even if it means he would be someone who didn't have any educational qualifications while rory would go to places like yale, harvard etc. how does that in anyway put him in a favorable light? if he was truly selfish, he would never want rory to succeed more than him and he never once in the show acts that way, only quite the opposite.
@@zumann874 Not a good enough comparison. Logan never been with Bobby, they were just business partners in S7. Let’s be real now, although Rory never told Jess upfront, Jess was for sure there to get back with his ex. He got his act together, he writing a book, dude wasn’t just trying to catch up with an old friend.
Jess seems manipulative sometimes. Coming out of blue with all the history between him and rory and then askimg such things. Over the top. And forgive the relationship
Sure sure 😂😂