Im a console bdo player and TL is a HUGE upgrade from bdo on console that I just uninstalled bdo didnt even think twice sure maybe ill be back in a couple of months because of lifeskilling and the combat but bdo console feels dead compared to pc, Even New World releasing on console has me hyped, maybe for people that already played it on pc don’t think much about it but its a new game for us, Its a really huge step for console community.
Don’t listen to the PC players on new world we got burnt by ags for 3 years on that game, it’s a much better game now than what most of pc players remember, No P2W and its a 1 time purchase to play with no subs. Game has and had has the most potential of an mmo in a very long time but the devs just took to long on updates for most players
@@AI.Musicx91 game is not good mate, I tried for a whole hour. Its wow but better graphics, and a worse combat. If you like it who cares, TL wont ever be big
what do u mean. if uare true PvP on bdo game for what reason u progressing ur gear ? hitting mobs ? no way pepo playing this game only for hiting the mobs
the endgame on TnL is pvp while the endgame of bdo is hitting dec weapon so you can grind fast. You guys are bunch of hamsters running on the wheel good luck to your grind simulator like a second job
@@aldysyahputra6967 If people werent playing this game to hit mobs there will be no end game players. Wait what? There's still a ton of end game players running in circles? No way!
@@marlonsuerte9197 This just sounds bitter. Let people enjoy what they want without receiving judgement from some rando with a superiority complex. It's a god dam game after all.
Throne and Liberty it's just a mobile game ported to PC, just look closer on faces and environment. UI and enhantment system are taken straight from mobile games. Black Desert Mobile also have good optimization if you play on PC :) See ya in 2 months back into BDO.
@@kanaerrow They shoehorned unrooted skills last minute cause of the backlash. The gameplay still doesn't feel like it was designed with movement in mind. It's literally just Night Crows and Mir4 with AGS budget.
@@ericy.3083 Good for you, i just wanted to point out why optimization is so good that's all. Every one will be play what they want. I had played 2 amazon games (lost ark, new world) and i know what to expect. Tons of bots, poor service and weird or delayed content update. PA is not a saint i know that, but we have events all the times, patch smaller or bigger every week, a lot of content are release global, a lot quality of life change in the past year. Anyway Have a nice day and enjoy yours games :)
"Why Black Desert Players are Moving Over to Throne and Liberty" Because you guys burned out competitive playing one game for 7-8 year and just need an excuse to hop into something new? I know it's sounds rude or harsh, but this is how it sound like for us who just play BDO as a casual game. You can dislike it, explain it or argue about it, doesn't matter. It's just a fking game....
Funny how such a large chunk of the playerbase is getting burnout all at the same time & are all inventing reasons in their head so that they can play a new game. It couldn't be because of the recent shift in BDO's direction. Absolute mental castration.
I don't think most ppl have a good impression on the game and or are planning on moving over. The ones that do are on the minority, everyone else is just trying the game out bcz it's new and free to play
T&Al is a good game and new , I am playing, they made huge improvements since I played in KR and omg it is a huge difference from then and I am absolutely loving it especially with the combat changes they made but that said I’m not leaving BDO.
The only people who will move to TL is the one that got small dick and crying about pvp , when the BDO population in at lest 80% don't care of this dumb content. So yea streamers will cry badly to make content and $$$ from views simple.
black desert and throne liberty are completely different games. I have played since open beta in throne. One big drama in the experience of playing in Korea was that our alliance drove out 1 of the biggest alliances on the server until they moved to another server. it was the biggest win in my history of playing thrones.
Alternative for what? If you rather play a single player game then explain what you look for. TnL is based around Community and it has alot of PVP. If action combat is what you value the most then TnL isnt for you, but it is for many other people, many people dont share your values. Fun in an mmo doesnt have to come from action combat, in TnL its mostly from interacting with other players and rivalry. If you mean alternative to BDO, do you think BDO will gain players again? Most people know the game already, left because they killed the diverse money making methods, everyone who wants to be competetiv has to run circles for 10h a day. Lifeskills are almost dead. New players will never be competetiv if they dont pay for stuff that was released over the years, like 300-400 right away just to get pets, outfits, tent etc. Thats not how you get new players. So what are your arguments against TnL, lets hear it.
Just a new Game, hype train is still ongoing same happend with New World, Lost Ark and now with TaL, nothing to be so dramatic on lol Combat of BDO is still topnotch, but I can't take the game anymore since I'm done with it, since release I was in the wheel running, and running, and since now PvP is kinda scuffed its time to move to smth LESS p2w, and exhausting its time to go fufu on FFXIV lmfao -> I tried it but im kinda confused with the game kek
PvP isn’t just ”kinda scuffed”, new classes (post Guardian) are beyond balancing with insane movement, ranged cc and fully protected, while Nodewars is on the brink of death, open world PvP doesn’t happen, AoS queues are longer getting longer by the date etc.
Well for some ppl it is a bit more "dramatic" cuz the game ppl liked to play for sometimes 8 yrs got thrown into the dirt. Some ppl just cant detach from everything and dont care.
The thing with New World is it had the most potential of any mmo released in a long time, But like most mmos Devs killed the game with stagnant updates little end game etc at the beginning along with the heap loads of exploits and bugs, I do think the New world will pick up traction again on its rerelease but it will largely depend on how the devs handle it weither it will stay or be dead in a month.
Im thinking of returning to ffxiv too. but that just begs the question of why is the MMO without an actual pvp system the objectively "best" MMO on the market? Is it because people value quality content such as story more or is it just because devs don't know how to make open world MMOs' endgame enjoyable ?
Love the clickbait and you but i personally do not like the tab target gameplay of throne and liberty. Graphics and story look great, but I skip and tune out of the game if the combat isnt something I enjoy
@@CiaLovesCats people will spend like 100 hours in TnL but 1000s of hours on BDO then hate on it lol BDO may not be as good as old BDO but its still the best MMO. Most MMOs are trash in so many aspects. TnL really did flop in KR which is unfortunate as many players including myself would love an MMO to come beat BDO but TnL already isn't performing in any capacity to be compared to BDO. lol
that's what the copers said about tera and bns lmfao "surely the hamsters will come back to their wheel it's just a phase bro please believe me bro please come back"
auction prices will be really high for a few months, then drop when the next tier of gear come out.. but yesterday i saw a boss drop on the market for 28000 lucent.. 500 lucent is 10 USD
The spiteful/petty way you're handling this transition is really unfortunate. It's like dating a new girl and all you do is talk crap about your ex girlfriend.
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Yea after she broke your trust and then started smoking meth to add to your comparison
I disagree with your analogy, but even in that situation it’s still in poor taste and you’re not going to impress anyone of quality by behaving that way.
nah, she lost interested and started treating you badly after years of being lovely. Very disappointing but its not like BDO went full p2w, I think a big part of the problem is that BDO was always going to burn players out. It was like this for a long time but it got old, and the small motivation of being able to pvp was lost. On top of that, this major economic deflation is destroying all those hours of grinding. It happened before but this time with so many players at the end game it created a major depression. Personally I'm taking a break from BDO and playing other game genres, BDO has actually put me off MMOs a bit, at least in the fantasy grindy genre.
maybe if the rice eaters listened to the players and didnt nuke pvp this wouldn't have happened? but sure blame the youtuber, simping for a billion dollar company that would throw u under the bus at the first opportunity is wild.
Bro I also had fun few months ago when I found HON (heroes of newerth which i was playing before 2012 when the game died), as I found a pirate option for it (kongor project) that made it possible to play it now (it is better than dota and lol, lmao), you also get free pearls as you lose or win matches, I could get a lot a of free stuff but it lasted only 2 months, I never played it again lately (it is still playable and getting updates). The thing is, we all love BDO (and hate...), we can give some breaks but we all end up coming back to hte greatest game I´ve played so far...
How P2w works in TL: someone get an item place the item on the market for x money example 20 bucks, other player place same item for 200 bucks. You need the same item 3 times to get your traits. So depend on the offer you should pay more or less money. To make an example of BDO. Imagine that you buy 200 bucks on Pearls you go to the market place and buy a pri Black star you now need to buy same black star 3 times and someone can place the item at lower price to sell It quicker or at máximum to win more money. The difference IS that you have no min Max price. And instead of silver you use Pearls to this transaction. You can farm in Game a few of those coins farming It or selling items. But It easier to pay It. But the quantity of things you could buy with those It's depends of the rest of players
I'm not moving, just because you beat the game and there's nothing for you to do anymore doesn't mean that applies for everyone . Besides, TL combat SUCKS
This is then important part. These people making a fuss about the state of BDO have tryharded to the max and I think that’s the average player experience. I know plenty of old players coming back rn having a great time with all the QoL changes
Even tho I’ve played Throne and Liberty because my friend gifted me the $40 dollar early access edition and I reached level 50 I will say BDO action combat has me spoiled because it is still unmatched in that regard but I just get tired of grinding in Gahaz since I don’t have the gear to move towards endgame grind spots, but it did take me a while to get used to the tab target hybrid action combat but mostly tab target in Throne and Liberty compared to the combos of BDO action combat which imo BDO still has the best action based combat I’ve ever played in an MMO which other companies need to start copying imo.
since I see many people saying about BDO having content and how BDO is the best mmo it's not only about if you got content or not hell even dogshit games have content question you should be asking are: Are BDO contents good? Do you have group contents and how are they? Do contents, lvling, and gear give you good rewarding experience? What future content can you look forward to and what updates are coming up? How consistent are the major updates? How is the endgame experience? How are the BDO contents compared to contents from other mmos? Does the company listen to content and player feedback? content > combat 😶
I will say it again the best thing for BDO is TNL success in the west. Maybe just maybe PA will start putting in work. Overall TNL has been a blast for me because it has that MMO feel Ive been missing from both BDO and LA. Dunno how long this honeymoon phase will last for me but overall its been fun.
I played BDO for 8 months and as a Father of 2 kids and a man who has full time job, i cant see myself having at least Tet end game gears and Oct soveriegn weapon within 4 years ,coz even how much i love to play BDO ,I ONLY have an hour and a half to play everyday, and that will put me nowhere, because in BDO you need an awful LOT of time to get highly enhanced gears specially when sovereign weapon came out, so i will take a long rest from BDO since i already started Throne n Liberty
Nahh I'm not about to watch BDO lose its pvp playerbase over a tab target game, what kind of fucked up timeline are we living in where MMOs are regressing and people like it 🤣
I got bored of ESO and decided to try Throne & Liberty. Then Throne & Liberty reminded me of everything that BDO is, and it isn't - and so I decided to give BDO another shot. I spent 34 hours in BDO over the last week or so, and have been enjoying it. So if anything, at this point I'd say Throne & Liberty may be the game that gets me into BDO - not the other way around. BDO is a huge game. Throne & Liberty feels like a much smaller, more limited experience.
The best moments were the random guild wars that turned into 20v20 battles whenever someone trashtalked. Most of the time, the guilds that fought each other would later form an alliance and play together.
Moving over? All I had to do was watch someone play this for 10 min to know I wasn't going to touch it. MMorpg's are mmorpgs. Only thing "unique" about them anymore is whether its tab target or not. The "drama" doesn't exist on this side of the screen, bud. Save that for the slow lets-read-twitter days.
Steam DB numbers for BDO are pretty sideways. People are still playing BDO while trying TL if anything. Also PVP in lost ark is complete trash, the rewards are only PVE reward enhancement items.
The title is misleading 😅😅😅 i see your tactics, you dramatize the whole new game thing, make people feel insecure and switch over, because some streamers cover new games for content as views, and some of this viewers are followers and will prob. follow you to TL so they will not feel left behind, but don't forget they are the same streamers that streamed Diablo 4, New World, Space Marine, many other games that keeps coming out. But don't for a moment think this guy BlueSquadron just quit BDO plain and simply never to return to it for TL. He lost his job for BDO, he went to BDO event last summer in Germany, the BDO ball, most of his youtube videos are about BDO, so BDO is in his blood, right now is in the rage mode because he lost partnership and acts like a little kid.😅😅😅
No one is quitting BDO for Tnl lmfao we just playing the new game combat is absolute dog shit on it but it’s fun it is definitely not a BDO replacement XD
bdo is uninstalled buddy wym. BDO ends nowhere there is no goal nothing. its a dead game or bleeding out the only people playing it are BDO addicted or are new to the game who have quite some way to go before they hit the end game.
@@AI.Musicx91 Nothing you said is unique to BDO, every mmo is a content treadmill. It's the genre. People want it to die because they're frustrated with the game but it isn't going to die just because you want it to.
BlueSquadron is done.. was my favorite bdo CC, now is click baits againts bdo, dont like BDO anymore just move on man. Dont came here saying "ohh i have tons of vids helping BDO comunity bla bla bla, lately ur crying so much againts bdo after they deneid partnership.
Its because it shouldn't be. Its predecessor is lineage 2. The experiences are vastly different. I'm more of a fan of the ToL party system and co-op gameplay, and I like the graphics and fluid combat of BDO. Safe to say we need like 6 months to see how ToL develops i guess lol
This comment section smh.. People coping about BDO still being great and shitting on TnL because they've gotten so used to mediocrity and thinks good combat alone is "content" and enough to keep investing 1000's of hours into singleplayer hamster wheel gameplay. Then the other half coping about TnL being the BDO replacement/killer when its just gonna be a temporary distraction for most until NCsoft inevitably runs it into the ground like they've always done. I've come to realize the best solution might just be to put MMO's behind me, and go touch some grass. GL yall!
T&L gets a lot better around level 30. The variety of gear is cool and the environments are beautiful. Combat feels like a snooze fest though. Bdo spoiled us
Most of you will be surprised and possibly find relief with how much group pve grinding will be required to get the pvp gear you want. BDO was so many hours of grinding in circles alone. TaL scheduling is designed to keep the game constantly mixing and changing the content you'll be experiencing. Being a whale will not drastically make you able to kill everyone. Group based systems and players play styles having a rock paper scissors effect in pvp which always leaves everyone with a strong aspect that will be weak to some players different builds. Tanky melees will usually be weaker to magic users for example. There will always be a downside for every upside.
First time listener, please adjust the volume on your video the video you are reviewing is quiet and then you start screaming volume levels are way off and it makes it a tough watch lol
Yeah just play a different genre. Don't go the Asmon route where you forget or never learn to do anything besides react and play mediocre MMO-styke combat
Throne and Liberty is dead on arrival. If you want to play something new for 1-2 months, okay, go play, but don't expect a lot of this game, the game will be dead before this year ends.
The ru region cannot play on Euro TL servers legally, because the regional settings of Steam limit it. Because of this, most of the ru BDO community will remain playing. Playing legally in Korea in TL with a ping of 250 is uncomfortable. Thus, the main outflow of players from BDO will be from the European community. I hope, Blue, that you will not betray the BDO and will periodically return to it. We believe in you, you really did even more than you could. The problem is with the management of BDO and PA ceo.
BDO is trash compared to throne in terms of things to do. The combat is better but thats pretty much it. I love BDO and ive been playing since 2017 its pretty much single player mmo vs mmo
here , the only person so far actually gets it . BDO is dope af but it DOES NOT live up to the MMO category . It's no longer an MMO and people upset because of it not because TnL is better .
Correct, No massive Guild Raids, No new Party Grind Zones, NO Nodewar, No Conquest War, No Open PVP, GuildLEague is Seasonal, RBF is trash. No Guild Dec. There is no Point in having High Gear in BDO anymore.
When will BDO bring back the old node wars and when will gearing actually be useful for pvp? Cus its all capped and open world pvp is not a thing anymore guild decs needs permission from other guilds 😂 let me know when they fix these if not its gonna stay uninstalled
J is speedrunning the success of other new MMOs. Just did a console NW n the lag, crashes n other issues barely able to show 100 people with effects n names off. Meanwhile TnL 1000s of ppl with 1000s of effects in better moshpits is way more fun to play right now. I like the group content n comraderie its reforging from our BOD guild.
i played guild wars like 10 years ago probably 12 years... i never started gw2 bc i heard pvp is basically nonexistent/trash compared to gw1 was i wrong?
@@hhgdg-i8u Gw2 pvp is good. It is not Gw1, which was initially designed as a PvP game with PvE on the side. Gw2 probably wont leave you with core memories of GvG and ranger spike. However Gw2 is easy to pick up and hard to master. Many of the classes are this way too, so you’ll spend hundreds of hours mastering mechanics in a standardised format. If you’re lucky youll fall in love with a class and gleefully spam 5v5 all weekend for hours and hours. Of course players are overall less interested in PvP; therefore ArenaNet, blizzard, SquareEnix etc allocate only a fraction of the budget for PvP.
@@Chizzle751 so basically pvp is just a sidegick? why would i spend mastering anything if they dont have pvp lol which is essentially the only competitive mode seems like i made the right choice to never play the game
@@hhgdg-i8u thats correct, but as i mentioned this is the attitude of every major mmorpg studio (Anet, SquareEnix, Bliz etc). PvP is an after thought. Guildwars 2 is still a great game but we are never going to recreate peak Guildwars. Even Anet realised they needed to diversify to keep up with WoW, and they hired somebody to mass produce thousands of PvE quests!
I’ll still tune in to streams and vids but this classic bdo cope. But I do enjoy seeing my bald man happy to play something new even tho 99% of us aren’t going to stick with this game for longer than a month or shorter
i tried to learn bdo since i'm new player on japan server, but i just dunno why this kind of content keep pooping up, just saying this, i just want peaceful content and education
NCSoft will run ur pockets and give u godhood. Doesn’t matter what game it is. Just don’t commit too hard or ur gonna mental boom when an oil prince solos ur entire alliance. Just have fun, treat it as a sabbatical.
well, the hype is now...but who will stay then? lol you can make a vid in around 2, 3 month and we´ll see. Nothin can compare to BDO´s combat system. That´s the reason, why I will stick to it.
Because its a new thing people want to try out. BDO has been out for years and as someone who has been playing BDO since launch i can't say i can fault them for that. The game became kind of stale and same-y over the years and so its no wander people want to check out the new thing. That said, i think most of those people will come back because from what i have seen so far TNL is kind of mid? At least IMO
ppl crawling back to BDO once they relise how T&L is pay wo win.. ligit got kicked out of guild for whale players wanting more whale players in guild... whole allince made of whale players vs server of f2p players... imagine not even seeing the world boss before you die... i like T&L more tbf caus its new but relise BDO is better after a 100h +
Blue I really have this sinking feeling that you are going to REALLY REGRET switching to T&L (this piece of shit copy of Lineage 2) over BDO. I think Jae Hee Kim is about to blow your mind hehe.
Yeah, I think the reason Blue made this video is because he genuinely wants things to change in BDO. I myself as a BDO player that has no intention of quitting the game feels like aspects of the game needs to change. I used to enjoy grinding for silver, but this has been rendered obsolete by the insanely high prices of crons.
People playing a new game while taking a break from a game they played 8 years? thats outragous and unheard of! oh wait its actually normal xD
There is no BDO to comeback for
Black desert online , throne and liberty has worse monetization. but I'm still prefer throne and liberty
Im a console bdo player and TL is a HUGE upgrade from bdo on console that I just uninstalled bdo didnt even think twice sure maybe ill be back in a couple of months because of lifeskilling and the combat but bdo console feels dead compared to pc, Even New World releasing on console has me hyped, maybe for people that already played it on pc don’t think much about it but its a new game for us, Its a really huge step for console community.
Don’t listen to the PC players on new world we got burnt by ags for 3 years on that game, it’s a much better game now than what most of pc players remember, No P2W and its a 1 time purchase to play with no subs. Game has and had has the most potential of an mmo in a very long time but the devs just took to long on updates for most players
@@swolebatman8013 gonna look into it. korean mmo?
lame that the game isn't cross progression though. it will still be limited by the consoles which is why bdo console is so bad
@@theshapetv9203No not a Korean mmo
@@BryanAbleagree. And consoleros won’t stay in pvp that long if it’s crossplay.
Alright Blue ima be honest we still love the game the title is kind of dramatic just play other games without mentioning BDO that’s the best way
Well I mean that IS what the video was specifically highlighting. ToL from the perspective of a unhappy veteran BDO player.
I am not moving to throne and liberty. BDO is in a very good state for me.
they didnt know about ncsoft, let them be.
Old man hasn't learned his lesson. You never fix your problems jumping from MMO to MMO.
You also don't fix them by throwing time into a game you're bored with, or actively dislike, just because of sunk-cost fallacy...
You couldnt pay me to play T&L lmfao
no one cares. everyone is playing.
@@abdelrahmanrad for a week at best lmao.
@@calabocaPT if you say so
@@calabocaPT youre one of the delusional people, there were more western players on the KR server than koreans.
@@AI.Musicx91 game is not good mate, I tried for a whole hour. Its wow but better graphics, and a worse combat. If you like it who cares, TL wont ever be big
People are just trying a new game, dont be dramatic!
what do u mean. if uare true PvP on bdo game for what reason u progressing ur gear ? hitting mobs ? no way pepo playing this game only for hiting the mobs
the endgame on TnL is pvp while the endgame of bdo is hitting dec weapon so you can grind fast. You guys are bunch of hamsters running on the wheel good luck to your grind simulator like a second job
@@aldysyahputra6967 If people werent playing this game to hit mobs there will be no end game players. Wait what? There's still a ton of end game players running in circles? No way!
@@marlonsuerte9197 This just sounds bitter. Let people enjoy what they want without receiving judgement from some rando with a superiority complex. It's a god dam game after all.
@@lol-iy7wv huh ?
Throne and Liberty it's just a mobile game ported to PC, just look closer on faces and environment. UI and enhantment system are taken straight from mobile games. Black Desert Mobile also have good optimization if you play on PC :) See ya in 2 months back into BDO.
proof?
@@kanaerrow They shoehorned unrooted skills last minute cause of the backlash. The gameplay still doesn't feel like it was designed with movement in mind. It's literally just Night Crows and Mir4 with AGS budget.
You're using the graphics to say it's mobile quality? You straight up have no idea what you're talking about
If it’s a game that can bring more fun, I don’t give a f if it’s ported from mobile or spaceship.
@@ericy.3083 Good for you, i just wanted to point out why optimization is so good that's all. Every one will be play what they want. I had played 2 amazon games (lost ark, new world) and i know what to expect. Tons of bots, poor service and weird or delayed content update. PA is not a saint i know that, but we have events all the times, patch smaller or bigger every week, a lot of content are release global, a lot quality of life change in the past year. Anyway Have a nice day and enjoy yours games :)
"Why Black Desert Players are Moving Over to Throne and Liberty" Because you guys burned out competitive playing one game for 7-8 year and just need an excuse to hop into something new? I know it's sounds rude or harsh, but this is how it sound like for us who just play BDO as a casual game. You can dislike it, explain it or argue about it, doesn't matter. It's just a fking game....
Funny how such a large chunk of the playerbase is getting burnout all at the same time & are all inventing reasons in their head so that they can play a new game. It couldn't be because of the recent shift in BDO's direction. Absolute mental castration.
@@CiaLovesCats Yeah like I said, people who played it really competitively mostly. We can say large chunk, but not everyone...
I don't think most ppl have a good impression on the game and or are planning on moving over. The ones that do are on the minority, everyone else is just trying the game out bcz it's new and free to play
He's a bdo content creator, OFC he will talk about BDO in a Throne vid..
T&Al is a good game and new , I am playing, they made huge improvements since I played in KR and omg it is a huge difference from then and I am absolutely loving it especially with the combat changes they made but that said I’m not leaving BDO.
I’m not gonna play TL, I will eventually quit bdo and just spend my money on stuff like a gym membership.
Blue Squadron intro pic to this video is the best. Bring it blue! Your the best.
Blue i can't found any vod of you shotcalling in TnL the last time you stream, when you gonna share it?
I like how the entire comment section is calling out on blues bs, yes bdo isn't doing to good but don't tell me this shit is chocolate either.
Yeah,. I like Blue's content and guides but at this point he's just farming drama.
Im not moving to throne and liberty what are you saying, dont lie, that TL static combat is trash xd
yea for sure you played the actual game, so you know it
Bro sold his wasd keys
The only people who will move to TL is the one that got small dick and crying about pvp , when the BDO population in at lest 80% don't care of this dumb content. So yea streamers will cry badly to make content and $$$ from views simple.
I am not either, but I wonder if they are enjoying it, lmão...
@@kingmalkontent8471 clown
black desert and throne liberty are completely different games. I have played since open beta in throne. One big drama in the experience of playing in Korea was that our alliance drove out 1 of the biggest alliances on the server until they moved to another server. it was the biggest win in my history of playing thrones.
Oh, who told Blue he was "special" ? We weren't supposed to let him find out.
Not leaving BDO, but this will be a nice distraction for a while and hopefully it reduces spending on BDO enough that J finally gets fired.
as if TL is a good alternative, its better to play Single Player games or some new genre. 3-4 months and TL is deadge
Alternative for what? If you rather play a single player game then explain what you look for. TnL is based around Community and it has alot of PVP.
If action combat is what you value the most then TnL isnt for you, but it is for many other people, many people dont share your values.
Fun in an mmo doesnt have to come from action combat, in TnL its mostly from interacting with other players and rivalry.
If you mean alternative to BDO, do you think BDO will gain players again? Most people know the game already, left because they killed the diverse money making methods, everyone who wants to be competetiv has to run circles for 10h a day. Lifeskills are almost dead. New players will never be competetiv if they dont pay for stuff that was released over the years, like 300-400 right away just to get pets, outfits, tent etc. Thats not how you get new players.
So what are your arguments against TnL, lets hear it.
Single Player games. So like bdo
Cope harder
@@juniisenpai3777 will never be more dead than bdo is haha
One of the best decisions I ever made
New BaitSquadron video just dropped!
Just a new Game, hype train is still ongoing same happend with New World, Lost Ark and now with TaL, nothing to be so dramatic on lol
Combat of BDO is still topnotch, but I can't take the game anymore since I'm done with it, since release I was in the wheel running, and running, and since now PvP is kinda scuffed its time to move to smth LESS p2w, and exhausting
its time to go fufu on FFXIV lmfao -> I tried it but im kinda confused with the game kek
PvP isn’t just ”kinda scuffed”, new classes (post Guardian) are beyond balancing with insane movement, ranged cc and fully protected, while Nodewars is on the brink of death, open world PvP doesn’t happen, AoS queues are longer getting longer by the date etc.
Well for some ppl it is a bit more "dramatic" cuz the game ppl liked to play for sometimes 8 yrs got thrown into the dirt. Some ppl just cant detach from everything and dont care.
@@zantano1425 Everthiny has its end, you better stop at a good time then a bad time, so you atleast remember the game in good ways.
The thing with New World is it had the most potential of any mmo released in a long time, But like most mmos Devs killed the game with stagnant updates little end game etc at the beginning along with the heap loads of exploits and bugs, I do think the New world will pick up traction again on its rerelease but it will largely depend on how the devs handle it weither it will stay or be dead in a month.
Im thinking of returning to ffxiv too. but that just begs the question of why is the MMO without an actual pvp system the objectively "best" MMO on the market? Is it because people value quality content such as story more or is it just because devs don't know how to make open world MMOs' endgame enjoyable ?
Love the clickbait and you but i personally do not like the tab target gameplay of throne and liberty. Graphics and story look great, but I skip and tune out of the game if the combat isnt something I enjoy
Narrator voice: He did not get to siege against the best KR players 😂
PA might aswell start there realm reborn arc because PA needs to really start learning from the failures for a change.
People will crawl back to BDO once the honeymoon phase is over. TL is trash 🤣
Bdo also sucks tho that's the problem
cope
Even if TL is a flop. Why would anyone return to the pile of waste that is BDO? 🤣
@@CiaLovesCats people will spend like 100 hours in TnL but 1000s of hours on BDO then hate on it lol BDO may not be as good as old BDO but its still the best MMO. Most MMOs are trash in so many aspects. TnL really did flop in KR which is unfortunate as many players including myself would love an MMO to come beat BDO but TnL already isn't performing in any capacity to be compared to BDO. lol
that's what the copers said about tera and bns lmfao "surely the hamsters will come back to their wheel it's just a phase bro please believe me bro please come back"
auction prices will be really high for a few months, then drop when the next tier of gear come out.. but yesterday i saw a boss drop on the market for 28000 lucent.. 500 lucent is 10 USD
The spiteful/petty way you're handling this transition is really unfortunate. It's like dating a new girl and all you do is talk crap about your ex girlfriend.
Yea after she broke your trust and then started smoking meth to add to your comparison
I disagree with your analogy, but even in that situation it’s still in poor taste and you’re not going to impress anyone of quality by behaving that way.
nah, she lost interested and started treating you badly after years of being lovely.
Very disappointing but its not like BDO went full p2w, I think a big part of the problem is that BDO was always going to burn players out. It was like this for a long time but it got old, and the small motivation of being able to pvp was lost.
On top of that, this major economic deflation is destroying all those hours of grinding. It happened before but this time with so many players at the end game it created a major depression.
Personally I'm taking a break from BDO and playing other game genres, BDO has actually put me off MMOs a bit, at least in the fantasy grindy genre.
maybe if the rice eaters listened to the players and didnt nuke pvp this wouldn't have happened? but sure blame the youtuber, simping for a billion dollar company that would throw u under the bus at the first opportunity is wild.
Hes just milking the throne and liberty hype. He needs to tbh. Yeah he'll be back to bdo after it dies down.
Bro I also had fun few months ago when I found HON (heroes of newerth which i was playing before 2012 when the game died), as I found a pirate option for it (kongor project) that made it possible to play it now (it is better than dota and lol, lmao), you also get free pearls as you lose or win matches, I could get a lot a of free stuff but it lasted only 2 months, I never played it again lately (it is still playable and getting updates). The thing is, we all love BDO (and hate...), we can give some breaks but we all end up coming back to hte greatest game I´ve played so far...
How P2w works in TL: someone get an item place the item on the market for x money example 20 bucks, other player place same item for 200 bucks. You need the same item 3 times to get your traits. So depend on the offer you should pay more or less money.
To make an example of BDO. Imagine that you buy 200 bucks on Pearls you go to the market place and buy a pri Black star you now need to buy same black star 3 times and someone can place the item at lower price to sell It quicker or at máximum to win more money. The difference IS that you have no min Max price. And instead of silver you use Pearls to this transaction. You can farm in Game a few of those coins farming It or selling items. But It easier to pay It. But the quantity of things you could buy with those It's depends of the rest of players
I'm not moving, just because you beat the game and there's nothing for you to do anymore doesn't mean that applies for everyone . Besides, TL combat SUCKS
This is then important part. These people making a fuss about the state of BDO have tryharded to the max and I think that’s the average player experience. I know plenty of old players coming back rn having a great time with all the QoL changes
Even tho I’ve played Throne and Liberty because my friend gifted me the $40 dollar early access edition and I reached level 50 I will say BDO action combat has me spoiled because it is still unmatched in that regard but I just get tired of grinding in Gahaz since I don’t have the gear to move towards endgame grind spots, but it did take me a while to get used to the tab target hybrid action combat but mostly tab target in Throne and Liberty compared to the combos of BDO action combat which imo BDO still has the best action based combat I’ve ever played in an MMO which other companies need to start copying imo.
All the bdo streamers that "quit" are still playing bdo off stream. TL looks like a remastered n64 game
since I see many people saying about BDO having content and how BDO is the best mmo
it's not only about if you got content or not
hell even dogshit games have content
question you should be asking are:
Are BDO contents good?
Do you have group contents and how are they?
Do contents, lvling, and gear give you good rewarding experience?
What future content can you look forward to and what updates are coming up?
How consistent are the major updates?
How is the endgame experience?
How are the BDO contents compared to contents from other mmos?
Does the company listen to content and player feedback?
content > combat
😶
I will say it again the best thing for BDO is TNL success in the west. Maybe just maybe PA will start putting in work. Overall TNL has been a blast for me because it has that MMO feel Ive been missing from both BDO and LA. Dunno how long this honeymoon phase will last for me but overall its been fun.
I played BDO for 8 months and as a Father of 2 kids and a man who has full time job, i cant see myself having at least Tet end game gears and Oct soveriegn weapon within 4 years ,coz even how much i love to play BDO ,I ONLY have an hour and a half to play everyday, and that will put me nowhere, because in BDO you need an awful LOT of time to get highly enhanced gears specially when sovereign weapon came out, so i will take a long rest from BDO since i already started Throne n Liberty
Nahh I'm not about to watch BDO lose its pvp playerbase over a tab target game, what kind of fucked up timeline are we living in where MMOs are regressing and people like it 🤣
How many more ways can you say this, we get it. Oh that's right, nobody is watchin the T&L vids.
well i hope you found your peace in Throne and Liberty
I got bored of ESO and decided to try Throne & Liberty. Then Throne & Liberty reminded me of everything that BDO is, and it isn't - and so I decided to give BDO another shot. I spent 34 hours in BDO over the last week or so, and have been enjoying it. So if anything, at this point I'd say Throne & Liberty may be the game that gets me into BDO - not the other way around. BDO is a huge game. Throne & Liberty feels like a much smaller, more limited experience.
Dope seeing you getting a spot in another game. Better do well dont let BDO name go down in shame.
Omg that thumbnail…lol. Buy yeah, game looks pretty but nah.
Can you link me to thr original video you pausing and talking person.
battle of 2 dead kr mmo fighting for oversea profit continues.... 🍿
Aside from BDO cool combat what is left? NOTHING, sadly. One thing Throne n Liberty is that BDO is not is FUN and that's all that matter
i left bdo when pvp changed in nodewars... im playing throne
Not even remotely interested in T&L tbh. Their reddit is already dooming lmao
The best moments were the random guild wars that turned into 20v20 battles whenever someone trashtalked. Most of the time, the guilds that fought each other would later form an alliance and play together.
someone gets it. Made some of my best friends ive met in real life that way. Legit trash talk at sausans.
Moving over? All I had to do was watch someone play this for 10 min to know I wasn't going to touch it. MMorpg's are mmorpgs. Only thing "unique" about them anymore is whether its tab target or not. The "drama" doesn't exist on this side of the screen, bud. Save that for the slow lets-read-twitter days.
Steam DB numbers for BDO are pretty sideways.
People are still playing BDO while trying TL if anything.
Also PVP in lost ark is complete trash, the rewards are only PVE reward enhancement items.
bdo has a afk fishing event, the numbers are buffed from people not even playing ur at 12k across all servers for steam big L
Take away the afk numbers and let's see what it really look like behind the curtains
The title is misleading 😅😅😅 i see your tactics, you dramatize the whole new game thing, make people feel insecure and switch over, because some streamers cover new games for content as views, and some of this viewers are followers and will prob. follow you to TL so they will not feel left behind, but don't forget they are the same streamers that streamed Diablo 4, New World, Space Marine, many other games that keeps coming out. But don't for a moment think this guy BlueSquadron just quit BDO plain and simply never to return to it for TL. He lost his job for BDO, he went to BDO event last summer in Germany, the BDO ball, most of his youtube videos are about BDO, so BDO is in his blood, right now is in the rage mode because he lost partnership and acts like a little kid.😅😅😅
No one is quitting BDO for Tnl lmfao we just playing the new game combat is absolute dog shit on it but it’s fun it is definitely not a BDO replacement XD
bdo is uninstalled buddy wym. BDO ends nowhere there is no goal nothing. its a dead game or bleeding out the only people playing it are BDO addicted or are new to the game who have quite some way to go before they hit the end game.
@@AI.Musicx91 Nothing you said is unique to BDO, every mmo is a content treadmill. It's the genre. People want it to die because they're frustrated with the game but it isn't going to die just because you want it to.
@@BogWalkBully there is no frustration buddy, there is actually no point to play bdo.
@@BogWalkBully What content???
BlueSquadron is done.. was my favorite bdo CC, now is click baits againts bdo, dont like BDO anymore just move on man. Dont came here saying "ohh i have tons of vids helping BDO comunity bla bla bla, lately ur crying so much againts bdo after they deneid partnership.
Don't like blue anymore just move on.
Does playing a game for many years makes someone entitled of it?
Me fallo en subir mi Hada por 5 vez... Venga TL!
Bro if ppl actually moving over it's only bc the game is new. No sane person actually thinks this combat is even on par with bdo
Its because it shouldn't be. Its predecessor is lineage 2. The experiences are vastly different. I'm more of a fan of the ToL party system and co-op gameplay, and I like the graphics and fluid combat of BDO.
Safe to say we need like 6 months to see how ToL develops i guess lol
no one said the combat was better
The rest of the entire game is just better not everything is about combat lol
This comment section smh..
People coping about BDO still being great and shitting on TnL because they've gotten so used to mediocrity and thinks good combat alone is "content" and enough to keep investing 1000's of hours into singleplayer hamster wheel gameplay.
Then the other half coping about TnL being the BDO replacement/killer when its just gonna be a temporary distraction for most until NCsoft inevitably runs it into the ground like they've always done.
I've come to realize the best solution might just be to put MMO's behind me, and go touch some grass. GL yall!
T&L gets a lot better around level 30. The variety of gear is cool and the environments are beautiful. Combat feels like a snooze fest though. Bdo spoiled us
How u guys playing already?
Its currently 11:45am here
Most of you will be surprised and possibly find relief with how much group pve grinding will be required to get the pvp gear you want. BDO was so many hours of grinding in circles alone. TaL scheduling is designed to keep the game constantly mixing and changing the content you'll be experiencing. Being a whale will not drastically make you able to kill everyone. Group based systems and players play styles having a rock paper scissors effect in pvp which always leaves everyone with a strong aspect that will be weak to some players different builds. Tanky melees will usually be weaker to magic users for example. There will always be a downside for every upside.
First time listener, please adjust the volume on your video the video you are reviewing is quiet and then you start screaming volume levels are way off and it makes it a tough watch lol
Amount of cope coming from Content creators is just insane. Yes bdo is in bad state however since when did pile of shit smell this good? 😂
@@Y4nkStyle True
Yeah just play a different genre. Don't go the Asmon route where you forget or never learn to do anything besides react and play mediocre MMO-styke combat
They need $$, it's not 2020 anymore.
3:16 he missed seeing the middle finger cursor and so did chat
Throne and Liberty is dead on arrival. If you want to play something new for 1-2 months, okay, go play, but don't expect a lot of this game, the game will be dead before this year ends.
See u on Christmas
Cope harder
The ru region cannot play on Euro TL servers legally, because the regional settings of Steam limit it.
Because of this, most of the ru BDO community will remain playing. Playing legally in Korea in TL with a ping of 250 is uncomfortable. Thus, the main outflow of players from BDO will be from the European community.
I hope, Blue, that you will not betray the BDO and will periodically return to it. We believe in you, you really did even more than you could. The problem is with the management of BDO and PA ceo.
Good joke 🤣🤣
I'll rather move in circles in bdo ❤
Bro. At this point, stop bringing up bdo with these goofy titles.
does TaL have pve?
BDO is trash compared to throne in terms of things to do. The combat is better but thats pretty much it. I love BDO and ive been playing since 2017
its pretty much single player mmo vs mmo
here , the only person so far actually gets it . BDO is dope af but it DOES NOT live up to the MMO category . It's no longer an MMO and people upset because of it not because TnL is better .
@@NguyenHuy-sx3zw bump this 2 guys, they get it 💪
Correct,
No massive Guild Raids, No new Party Grind Zones, NO Nodewar, No Conquest War, No Open PVP, GuildLEague is Seasonal, RBF is trash. No Guild Dec.
There is no Point in having High Gear in BDO anymore.
all player want to try the new game throne and liberty if its good maybe they stay for a while if its bad they just go back to game game they playing
this is such a cope lmao
Another good PvP mmo dead to whining carebears. Gg hope you enjoy your marni realms dudes
The sad part is that tnl is much worse as a game, no chance apart from folks making money playing games will stomach tnl long term
Bro the game is not even out yet.
When will BDO bring back the old node wars and when will gearing actually be useful for pvp? Cus its all capped and open world pvp is not a thing anymore guild decs needs permission from other guilds 😂 let me know when they fix these if not its gonna stay uninstalled
J is speedrunning the success of other new MMOs.
Just did a console NW n the lag, crashes n other issues barely able to show 100 people with effects n names off.
Meanwhile TnL 1000s of ppl with 1000s of effects in better moshpits is way more fun to play right now.
I like the group content n comraderie its reforging from our BOD guild.
People that compares games and go on the other game with potato settings to handicap it is absolutely stupid ngl
First, same shirt, Shiny head. I love you Note.
I was the first not you lol
TL is a superior MMO thats it
TnL is trash, BDO is better, but Guildwars and Guildwars 2 are my GOATs
i played guild wars like 10 years ago probably 12 years...
i never started gw2 bc i heard pvp is basically nonexistent/trash compared to gw1
was i wrong?
@@hhgdg-i8u Gw2 pvp is good. It is not Gw1, which was initially designed as a PvP game with PvE on the side. Gw2 probably wont leave you with core memories of GvG and ranger spike.
However Gw2 is easy to pick up and hard to master. Many of the classes are this way too, so you’ll spend hundreds of hours mastering mechanics in a standardised format. If you’re lucky youll fall in love with a class and gleefully spam 5v5 all weekend for hours and hours.
Of course players are overall less interested in PvP; therefore ArenaNet, blizzard, SquareEnix etc allocate only a fraction of the budget for PvP.
@@Chizzle751 so basically pvp is just a sidegick? why would i spend mastering anything if they dont have pvp lol which is essentially the only competitive mode
seems like i made the right choice to never play the game
@@hhgdg-i8u thats correct, but as i mentioned this is the attitude of every major mmorpg studio (Anet, SquareEnix, Bliz etc). PvP is an after thought. Guildwars 2 is still a great game but we are never going to recreate peak Guildwars. Even Anet realised they needed to diversify to keep up with WoW, and they hired somebody to mass produce thousands of PvE quests!
@@Chizzle751 sounds kinda lame tbh lol
Amazon publisher. Pass.
I’ll still tune in to streams and vids but this classic bdo cope. But I do enjoy seeing my bald man happy to play something new even tho 99% of us aren’t going to stick with this game for longer than a month or shorter
i tried to learn bdo since i'm new player on japan server, but i just dunno why this kind of content keep pooping up, just saying this, i just want peaceful content and education
Dramatically dramatic 🎉🎉🎉
NCSoft will run ur pockets and give u godhood. Doesn’t matter what game it is. Just don’t commit too hard or ur gonna mental boom when an oil prince solos ur entire alliance. Just have fun, treat it as a sabbatical.
Aight. If that's the case there's no point of staying subscribed and you can't make me play that trash, I'm sorry.
Nice thank
well, the hype is now...but who will stay then? lol you can make a vid in around 2, 3 month and we´ll see.
Nothin can compare to BDO´s combat system. That´s the reason, why I will stick to it.
You can play more than 1 game
People can actually play throne? I haven’t been able to log in for 2 days on oce/jp servers apparently eu servers been down for 3 days 😂
Because its a new thing people want to try out. BDO has been out for years and as someone who has been playing BDO since launch i can't say i can fault them for that. The game became kind of stale and same-y over the years and so its no wander people want to check out the new thing. That said, i think most of those people will come back because from what i have seen so far TNL is kind of mid? At least IMO
Game looks nice but I can’t go to throne is the PvP is like playing smite or wow or something but worse
ppl crawling back to BDO once they relise how T&L is pay wo win.. ligit got kicked out of guild for whale players wanting more whale players in guild... whole allince made of whale players vs server of f2p players... imagine not even seeing the world boss before you die... i like T&L more tbf caus its new but relise BDO is better after a 100h +
Blue I really have this sinking feeling that you are going to REALLY REGRET switching to T&L (this piece of shit copy of Lineage 2) over BDO. I think Jae Hee Kim is about to blow your mind hehe.
Yeah, I think the reason Blue made this video is because he genuinely wants things to change in BDO. I myself as a BDO player that has no intention of quitting the game feels like aspects of the game needs to change. I used to enjoy grinding for silver, but this has been rendered obsolete by the insanely high prices of crons.
@asmongold are you here?!
its time for BDM to retire RIP good memories u done alot bdm can rest now guys.
See you in 2 weeks
Your community is quite bdo focused for now huh