Legends of the Lost Tribes Chapter 12 - The Karaites of Poland and Lithuania

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  • @umbertobombace8367
    @umbertobombace8367 4 роки тому +3

    What an intriguing culture. I would have liked to meet them, but unfortunately, the day I visited Trakai, their Kenesa was closed.

  • @jamesthomas5109
    @jamesthomas5109 Рік тому +2

    2:50 This music is intriguing, anyone know it's name?

  • @private9260
    @private9260 5 років тому +10

    Karaites are Jews that are Scripturalists - it's that simple. We follow what the Torah tells us, and we accept the Tanakh.

    • @vadymmironenko7054
      @vadymmironenko7054 3 роки тому

      But why do you not accept your other jewish brothers ? I am Ukrainian catholic and I am trying to understand Jews and Karaites as same ?

    • @jonathansoko1085
      @jonathansoko1085 3 роки тому +3

      @@vadymmironenko7054 Let me explain it to you like this. A Catholic and a Baptist Christian believe 99% of the same thing, right? But you will never hear a baptist call a catholic his brother. What may seem like a small difference, is in fact HUGE to them. The Karaites reject the oral law/talmud... and talmudic judaism IS modern judaism so anythign else is gonna be called heretical by them. Look at tha Karas kind of like the protestant reformers, they reject all commentaries on the scriptures and take only the scriptures. What a christian would call "sola scriptura" Scriptures alone

    • @vadymmironenko7054
      @vadymmironenko7054 3 роки тому

      @@jonathansoko1085 But, isn't karaite Judaism the real Judaism ? I am not Jewish, I am Byzantine Catholic and in Lviv we have a few Karaite jews here and they tell me they are not like the Jews in rest of Ukraine. But, why does Talmud say bad things about us non-jews ?

    • @jonathansoko1085
      @jonathansoko1085 3 роки тому +1

      @@vadymmironenko7054 I am also a byzantine catholic. they sure do claim that they practice it, but lots of groups make that claim, like the modern samaritain isrealites, look them up too. At the end of hte day it doesnt matter, Christ fulfillled the law and there is no function of "judaism" as it was, in our world today. The Catholic Church (the only church) is the natural progression of scripture and "religion" from the bible, aka judaism. Alot of our practices, icons, even the structure of our churches are based in biblical "judaism". We are the product of Christ coming, fulfilling the law thus birthing his church. Natural evolution. Karite jews do not do sacrifices (even tho animal sacrifice has no power anymore either so its irrelevant), thats what biblical jews did, so im not sure how failtful they are. But again, it doesnt matter since "judaism" today has no authority and their rituals have no power.

    • @vadymmironenko7054
      @vadymmironenko7054 3 роки тому

      @@jonathansoko1085 I agree. Where you from ? I am from Lviv, Ukraine where here our main faith is Byzantine Catholic, some call us Orthodox Christians.. Ukraine mostly is Orthodox nation, but in West Ukraine we are Byzantine Catholics. Yes, I know Judaism today is not important, as Christ fulfilled everything.

  • @nadegejacquet2531
    @nadegejacquet2531 7 років тому +1

    thanks for the documentary. It was interesting. I learned much

  • @SHAUL-HAYIM-YIRAH-MAAMIN
    @SHAUL-HAYIM-YIRAH-MAAMIN 4 роки тому +1

    Very insightful documentary....

  • @jivanselbi3657
    @jivanselbi3657 5 років тому +6

    the language /dialect they use is not Ottoman Turkish, it is northern Turkic /Kipchak..as descendents of Turkic race/ be from Turkey or other parts of the world/ we feel for them and pray for their prosperity

    • @sleeexs
      @sleeexs 3 роки тому

      Khazaria

    • @jamesthomas5109
      @jamesthomas5109 Рік тому

      2:50 This music is intriguing, anyone know it's name?

    • @yelenalipskaya1353
      @yelenalipskaya1353 Рік тому +1

      Do not refer to the language the people speak. For instance, Caucasian Jews speak the Tats language (the Farsi dialect) but they are not Persians. We are Turkic spoken but not Turks. We are Jews, not Rabbinical Jews. The scoundrels pretending to be Turks are just afraid of antisemitism, but real Karaites consider themselves as Jews. We have such last names as Kohen, Levi. So, how can we be the lost tribe with such last names? BTW, all the European Jews (Karaites and Rabbanites) have some small percentage of Turkic blood due to the Khazars, but still consider themselves as Jews.

    • @jivanselbi3657
      @jivanselbi3657 Рік тому

      @@yelenalipskaya1353 \ personally I have no issue with Semitizim or else.. I don't judge people of what they inherit but with what they possess of human values.. Judeism is a religion but hardly a race.. or are afraid you will loose the benefits if you claim otherwise.. if you a have a DNA test you will have an idea of which race you are descenant of. I'm originally form North of Caucasia, almost of the shore of İtil (Volga), still speak the Kipchak dialect.. I am aware that we are descendants of ''Turkic'' race, others can claim what suits themselves, just because many Turks converted to Islam, does not make them different to us.

    • @yelenalipskaya1353
      @yelenalipskaya1353 Рік тому

      @@jivanselbi3657 DNA of Karaite Jews shows their close relation to other Jews.

  • @sahhaf1234
    @sahhaf1234 2 роки тому +1

    @8:20 karaites didnt soldier in the ottoman empire, and the cantor's dialect is not anatolian turkish..

    • @yelenalipskaya1353
      @yelenalipskaya1353 Рік тому

      Every normal Karaite Jew prays in Hebrew.

    • @sahhaf1234
      @sahhaf1234 Рік тому

      @@yelenalipskaya1353 @8:20 actually he prays in some version of turkish, and I can barely understand him.. Definitely not ottoman turkish. I guess it is crimean tatar dialect...As for "ottoman soldiery", karaites are not very much connected to ottoman empire. AFAIK, they are a crimean people and connected to crimean tatars..
      There is a karaite sinagogue in Istanbul, around hasköy district...

    • @yelenalipskaya1353
      @yelenalipskaya1353 Рік тому

      @@sahhaf1234 Only Lithuanian Karaite Jews including the Polish ones (just several families remain in Poland) pray in Karaite language, nevertheless, all others, including the Crimean ones pray in Hebrew as they supposed to do. Only them who are afraid of antisemites proclaimed themselves as separate folk, but all others including Turkish ones consider themselves as a part of Jewish people, which is true.

  • @isaacvejar4168
    @isaacvejar4168 3 роки тому +1

    Moshe Rabennu was a (scripturalist) karaite (Deut 4 , 5:32). So his sucessor Joshua, (Josh 1:8)

  • @Rogerrramjet1
    @Rogerrramjet1 7 років тому +3

    Ottomans were the most tolerant to conquered subjects in Earths history

    • @mhmmdsuleymanzad6186
      @mhmmdsuleymanzad6186 7 років тому +8

      BenkethePirate They didn't ban your native language, your heritage, your culture.İf Ottomans did those things like other empires,you must speak turkish. Look at the native Americans,Australians and they lost everything.

    • @yg-dealer1816
      @yg-dealer1816 5 років тому +6

      @BenkethePirate It is not true.. Most of Turks don't support ottoman ideology but you are uneducated. Bte armenian genodice is a big lie.

    • @yg-dealer1816
      @yg-dealer1816 5 років тому +6

      @BenkethePirate I don't interest what cruiel Hitler said. 'armenian genodice' is an imperialist lie... That's it

    • @yg-dealer1816
      @yg-dealer1816 5 років тому +7

      @BenkethePirate I don't support ottomans.. I am a republican but you don't know anything about this topic. Armenian genodice was a imperialist lie.. It was a project of sevr treatment.. you mean armenians trying to get independence and forming milita with russian support and started cutting local Turks and then relocated?

    • @yg-dealer1816
      @yg-dealer1816 4 роки тому +1

      @יעקב יעקב You are just ignorant person. It was never happened. Go and read Bernard Lewis

  • @Dan.Parker
    @Dan.Parker 2 місяці тому

    To put it in a better perspective, Jesus was a Karaite.

  • @boliussa
    @boliussa 7 років тому

    weird documentary, they suddenly mention a guy called Anan at 3:30, as if everybody should know who that is.

    • @abshalomyisrael9475
      @abshalomyisrael9475 6 років тому +3

      When i watch a documentary and it mentions a personality that i do not readily know about, i normally stop and do a precursor reading on him/her.
      It really helps. Just some advice.

  • @dobishs
    @dobishs 6 років тому +2

    Theres no way to read the text without commentary and tradition. They are called karaites meaning the way it's read but they don't know hebrew, originally they knew the text well. Are they are still Jewish or did they intermarry?

    • @ZviJ1
      @ZviJ1 3 роки тому +3

      Commentary that is not true to the straightforward meaning is erroneous at best and fraudulent at worst. This is precisely what Rabbinical Judaism is -- intentional fraud and deceit for the most part.

    • @sleeexs
      @sleeexs 3 роки тому

      They are from Khazaria

  • @tubaaa333
    @tubaaa333 6 років тому +2

    U WILL FIND THEM IN AMERICA OR ISRAEL.

  • @messianic_scam
    @messianic_scam 3 роки тому

    9:01 9:03 yah christian services

  • @LouieRC540
    @LouieRC540 3 роки тому

    In the new testament they are called Sadducees.

    • @MBEG89
      @MBEG89 Рік тому +3

      No this group started later and for different reasons.

  • @eraywayne2165
    @eraywayne2165 3 роки тому

    Turks 🇮🇱♥️🇹🇷❤️🇦🇿

  • @MrArtist1971
    @MrArtist1971 4 роки тому

    00:30

  • @ZviJ1
    @ZviJ1 7 років тому +5

    Too bad you did not expound what you meant by "Hebrew movement". But you are significantly misinformed; the Qaraite movement is a denomination of Judaism itself, although the rabbis hold it as heretic. Secondly, Judaism (which has not been monolithic since late Second Temple times) has consisted the majority of and influenced still over expressions of Yahwism across the globe, whereas Samaritanism (its sister Israelite religion) has been and impacted a small minority by comparison.
    As to the eastern European Qaraites, the majority of the process of their being severed from Judaism and Jewry occurred already prior to the ascendancy of the communist regimes.

    • @apatinkin
      @apatinkin  7 років тому +2

      I wrote a book titled "The Biblical Sky Canopy" in Hebrew. apatinkin.wixsite.com/kabbalah

    • @SammytheawesomeILikePotatoes
      @SammytheawesomeILikePotatoes 3 роки тому +1

      Samaritan religion flourished with many people partaking, unfortunately their population did not bounce back after their revolt against the romans. The Jews regrouped their numbers after their revolt but the remaining samaritans assimilated into Palestinian and Syrian Islam

    • @ZviJ1
      @ZviJ1 3 роки тому +1

      ​@@SammytheawesomeILikePotatoes The chief Samaritan scholar, Binyamim Sedaqa (known on FB as "Ben Sedaka"), argues the Samaritans numbered at their demographic peak no more than 1.5 million in total, on the eve of their first anti-Byzantine revolt in 484.

    • @SammytheawesomeILikePotatoes
      @SammytheawesomeILikePotatoes 3 роки тому +1

      @@ZviJ1 keep in mind world populations at the time, 1.5 million was a much bigger number at the time than now. If they continued growing from 1.5mil 1500 years ago then their numbers would be significant in the modern day

    • @ZviJ1
      @ZviJ1 3 роки тому +1

      @@SammytheawesomeILikePotatoes In AD 484 there were at least 3 times more Jews worldwide.
      If we begin the "what if" game, I can launch speculations on what if the Bar-Kokhvah Revolt succeeded.

  • @tubaaa333
    @tubaaa333 6 років тому

    WOW WHAT DO i HEAR MY OWN SECT NOT ACTUALLY JEWS? iT IS MORE JEWS THAT THE SPEAKING ONE. I KNOW BECAUSE I AM ONE OF THEM. HAHAHA

    • @braggsean1026
      @braggsean1026 5 років тому

      Do Karaites believe in Yeshua as Messiah?

    • @braggsean1026
      @braggsean1026 5 років тому

      @Narayana 69 so basically they are pre-Talmudic Jews and Levites?

    • @braggsean1026
      @braggsean1026 5 років тому

      @Narayana 69 thank you that was insightful... good to have an educated voice in the crowd to clear up any questions.

    • @ZviJ1
      @ZviJ1 3 роки тому +1

      Do Christians derive some perverse fun from assuming the Qaraite Jews view JC/Yeshua as the/a Messia? In this age sufficient information about this is readily available on the internet to find.

    • @sleeexs
      @sleeexs 3 роки тому

      @@braggsean1026 There is no messiah

  • @mathiasmaranhao
    @mathiasmaranhao 7 місяців тому

    Karaite language, what a joke

  • @messianic_scam
    @messianic_scam 3 роки тому

    they are Christian frankists not jews at all the start of the video showing the orthodox church tells everything about them

    • @Goofy-G
      @Goofy-G Рік тому

      You must be dumb then

    • @BneiMikraOfficial
      @BneiMikraOfficial 9 місяців тому

      Frankism didn’t exist until the 1600s Karaites started to organize in response to the growing influence of pharisaic Judaism in the 600s-700s. Frankists came out of Sabbateans as Jacob Frank claimed to be the reincarnation of Shabbtai Tzvi, much of Hasidic and Kabbalistic practices find its origins in the writings of followers of Shabbtai Tzvi aka “crypto-Sabbateans” even many of those close to the Arizal were sabbateans, Rabbi Yonatan Eibeschutz was definitely a Sabbatean his son was openly a Sabbatean. Rabbi Jacob Emden fought against it but the heavily.
      But the Karaites utterly rejected Kabbalistic mysticism and hated Sabbateans and Frankists claiming that they were satanists long before anyone else did.

  • @leonardodipartlow8295
    @leonardodipartlow8295 7 років тому

    Are the Karaites the descendants of the Kara Khazars? Karaite means 'black people"

    • @Rogerrramjet1
      @Rogerrramjet1 7 років тому +4

      Khazars are Turco Mongolian(Altai) group.(Turkic gene tribe)Khazars are Turco Mongolians(Altai)that converted to Judaism in mid 7th century.

    • @Critques75
      @Critques75 7 років тому +7

      It means read

    • @Meirstein
      @Meirstein 7 років тому +6

      Readers, actually.

    • @beeclancy696
      @beeclancy696 6 років тому +7

      No it doesn't, not in Hebrew. קרא (Qara) means "to read" . קראית (Qaraite) means "people who read" basically. Also, there's no evidence that the entirety of the Khazar Empire converted to Judaism.

    • @localcvltleader
      @localcvltleader 6 років тому +4

      Leonardo DiPartlow It doesn't mean Black. At all.