All Black supporter here - NZ have a very soft underbelly that has ben exposed multiple times in the last few years - by Ireland, Argentina, England (last ten minutes of that test), and South Africa. The SA win was just brilliant. A record win by any test side against the AB's. Congratulations to the Springboks. A well deserved win.
Respect mate! Spoken like a true lover of the game. Between us, I think the French have reason to worry, playing a wounded AB side in the opening match is a comfartable prospect at all. We all know that this defeat will absolutely bring out the best in this great Kiwi team.
Welsh guy here. .Why do you pick Sam Cane. He's just not good enough. The comments about the lack of reality shown by NZ pundits is old...repetitive...but oh so true. Justin Marshall hasa better, more balanced view because he has experience away from NZ...and I don't mean cheap Yen in a second class league. Anyway World Rugby (Bill Beaumont) should be ashamed of themselves caving in to the French and picking the pools 3 years ago. Next time pick them after the final warmup game. To all cheers, beers, have the best world cup. And play it without all the off field whining from Australia 😂
I’m Australian and I think it’s ridiculous that this is being made into an issue. As the SA coach said, if you get a couple of back injuries, you’re screwed with an 7-1 split. SA traditionally make awesome forwards, so why wouldn’t they play into that strength and take a risk. Sour grapes from people whining about it
Not if you have players who can play well also as a back. Many Bok loose-forwards can play well as backs, eg Smith. Hence, I don’t buy the risks are bigger than the rewards point too much. However, I don’t think the rules should be changed. Others can do the same thing. So it’s not unfair.
@@johnhanson5943 where in the backline is Kwagga Smith lining up where he won’t be a significant downgrade in attack and in defence? Yeah he’s fast for a forward, but he’d be exposed one on one in space against a world class back. Also, as you said, there’s nothing stopping other teams from employing the same tactic. I honestly think this is people trying to steal SA’s thunder after a great performance
@@nielvanderwalt1965 it’s obviously going to be in the centres and in either spot he’s going to be a hindrance in attack and at a speed disadvantage in defence. Great player, but to think he’s going to cut it against NZ, France or Ireland at centre is a big reach. I get where you’re coming from, but the Saffas have just figured out an advantage here and that’s all there is to it. Are you a kiwi haha?
Mate, I think it is still overall 70% to 30% to you guys. We know how good you are and how far we still need to go! You destroyed us in NZ earlier this year 😀
This loss was and still is a reality check for the AB. They are still a great team, but perhaps not as dominant after that 2011-2015 greatest of all time AB team
correction Brenden: The boks using a 7-1 split is not the exploitation of a loophole... it is within the law, no loophole. Ridiculous. Matt Williams was a terrible coach and is an even worse pundit. He is decidedly anti-Bok... pathetic.
To give you an idea about how anti-Bok he is, he said, "The way you fix it is say you must have three recognised backs on your bench" to combat the 6-2 split SA favoured in the RWC. Problem with that of course is that New Zealand on Friday used a 6-2 split and not one complaint about that.
Yes. What if a flank decides he wants to play on the wing now. Will he be banned? And who will decide what position a player must in future always play? Are these guys really this dumb?
Nothing stops any other team from playing a 7 - 1 or a 8 - 0 split if you want. It's a helluva risk, but it did pay off for the Boks, this time. Can't see them usinf it in a knock out game though, just too much of a gamble.
This is bonkers - seems like a hugely deserved Boks win is not to be appreciated - they were brilliant, played fantastic rugby and this is from a Scot looking from behind the couch - Fair play to the Boks
you can come out from behind the coach. we will give you the easy treatment and save the energy for the Irish which we will soften up for you. I am hoping the Boks and Scots gets out of the pool
@@martinmcdonald4207 The Bok forwards remind me of my grand dads John Deer tractor. Difficult to start at first but hard to stop once it fires on all cylinders even after turning off the ignition. If Ireland makes it out of pool B and you face the AB's, I am behind you all the way and hope they can replicate the series win performance last year.
I’ve seen a couple of weird takes from my fellow kiwis. I put it down to us just taking our worst defeat ever in a game immediately heading into a World Cup. As Kiwis we used to pride ourselves on doing things differently and not doing the same thing as everyone else, such as brining in an Aussie rules coach to teach skills, inventing the pod system etc… so it’s really disappointing to see kiwis getting upset that someone is doing something differently that is extremely effective for them.
Certain key player's are weak making the all blacks fail Aaron smith can't tackle and is so slow, Aaron smith watches other team's score waving his arm's Sam cane isn't our best number ? Keeping old out if form past their prime, player's is the same as we did in 2019. Shame on foster for repeating the 2019 player's who failed Beauden barrett can't catch or function under pressue
Who said it was a kiwis complaining it didn't sound like a kiwi asking the question at the press conference don't make accusations that ain't there. The dude sounded like a UK reporter and Matt Williams has no connection to the All Blacks, they weren't complaining about losing, or the game, they took what was served up to them at Twickenham, and moved on. Someone from Scotland ain't someone from New Zealand. keep it real.gee. The All Blacks ain't brought this matter up at all, no one there has mentioned the matter. I saw nothing wrong with Justin comment he didn't mention South Africa's 7-1 one selections, yet the finger is pointing to the All Blacks. Kiwi supporters or media don't make the rules, no matter what opinions they have or anyone for that matter. Find out where WR sit on the matter, why are we blaming the All Blacks again??? A South African stirring it up. Don't judge us on a few kiwi comments that I'm yet to see, that many of us also wouldn't agree with. The rules don't in my view need changing, a kiwi opinion. Next thing we know South Africans are blaming the All Blacks because of your report. And the All Blacks haven't said a word. Ya nit picking mate.
I think the Boks did us a favour! BUT in saying that I have been saying this for the last 5 years - we (the All Blacks) are deluded in thinking that our running game is going to win us a world cup!
I am not surprised in what Williams said. In the week after Springboks lost to the Abs. He made the comment that the Boks were out of sorts and "As soon as they come up against the big boys their game hits the wall. " Now, he needs to decide if the ABs are part of the " big boys" club seeing as the game worked quite well. He is the same guy who wrote that LA Rochelle were just lucky to beat Leinster in 2002 only to witness them stuff them again in 2023. To say he is mediocre is being generous.
Congratulations to South Africa. The Springboks are awesome. What a forward pack and a great bench. I am All Black fan by the way.We have absolutely no excuses.
Ireland fan here - don't see an issue with the 7-1 split. It's a risk for SA to take - if they get injuries in their backline then it can backfire and they will have to adapt. Much like how Ireland had to adapt against Scotland by putting in Healy (a loosehead) at hooker and had VDF (an openside) throwing into the lineout.
Exactly. The Boks strategy makes perfect sense with the playing pool they have. It makes much less sense if you are, e.g., England, which is precisely why these calls are suddenly being made again. It happened after the last World Cup. It's happening before this one.
Hi Brenden, as a kiwi I enjoy listening to your channel, very well rounded I believe. When you're at the top of your game you'll always be criticized, called cheats or said to be favoured by the refs. It comes with the territory. I think it was a brilliant move by the bok coaching staff and it did have its risks, but they rolled the dice and came out on top. Journo's don't represent the majority of us. We'll done..... " we'll be back".👍👍👍
Mate as a SA living in NZ, I can honestly say that Jeff Wilson's take is far more widespread than what you might the world to believe. Im of the opinion that most NZ'ers are AB fans first. Talking to Kiwi mates of mine after a game you hear all sorts. Reading comments online just as much. Ive learned over the years to stay balanced with my emotions re a loss or a win. Kiwis not so much. And Im all for banter but most times they like a pack of dogs who smelled blood. 52-0? Oh my word! Contrast to days like last week. They usually avoid me and have this pained expression everytime they see me. One should support rugby first, I think. That allows you to see that what Scott Barrett did is way worse than PSdT swinging arm. Not trying to put anyone down. Just trying to give you my honest appraisel, for what its worth...
@@RD-sp5us Yes for sure Geoff Wilson has his supporters,some times I agree with what he says,other times not. Does Geoff represent the majority of us......? You'll find negativity in everything if you look for it. NZ is far from perfect....but who is?
There is nothing wrong with the Boks choosing a 7/1 bench or using the "Bomb-Squad" methods if this is within the rules. It's up to other teams to adapt. The rules are there for everyone to adhere to and use however they see fit for their team.
Rules are frequently changed if people find a loophole, personally don't think world rugby wants the abuse of a system which was meant for safety, as an advantage playing, spirit of the game is important
@marcdunne7831 7-1 split is not an abuse of the rules. There are no rules that dictate the split thus it is legal. This is a professional sport, not amateur sport. Professional sport uses the rules to win. Adapt or loose...
@@Profreegolfer you're right but abuse doesn't necessarily mean illegal it is possible to abuse without breaking rules, I'm not saying south Africa are wrong, but world rugby should recognise it's against the spirit of the law, safety was primarily the reason for it particularly for forwards which is a very tough position but not too have two separate forward packs.
I got to meet Sir John Kirwan outside Twickers before the game for an “ussie” and he was incredibly friendly, and frankly treated all the Saffa fans out there like we were members of the family that he hasn’t seen in a while. Asked me where I got my old school Bok Jersey and how he remembers playing against it. Incredibly nice, friendly man. That’s generally my take away when I meet New Zealanders. This reaction from Jeff Wilson surprised me. I think New Zealanders are struggling to get used to the post-McCaw/post-2015 era where they no longer win everything. Some will be gracious about it. Other will try to find excuses.
JK is a great bloke and most New Zealanders are as well. I love touring the country, enjoy the people immensely and have fond memories of the times I've been there. And generally they're very level-headed on rugby matters as well.
The world has caught new teams in this year world cup for the 1st time is Chile knocking out USA & missed out in most other world cups some of the top teams get beaten on any given day no team is immune or exempt of getting knocked out.
NZ is a great rugby nation and a respected rival on the pitch. I love to see them any time playing against the Boks and it is always exiting to watch them compete and it doesn't matter who wins. a Win today is always a Lost tomorrow. Please don't kill rugby just because one's favorite team lost a game. Let us move on and enjoy the game.
They are PATHETIC! No issue with the HAKA, that is a WAR dance, dating back to CANNIBALISM, yet the All Blacks are not only allowed to use it, but teams are NOT allowed to challenge it. PATHETIC! The Haka gives the All Blacks a psychological edge! Without it, they will lose their "allure" and they will be just another team. Why should we put up with that BULLSHIT!!! I can not STAND NZ! What a bunch of sore losers they are! NEVER give credit to anyone. Blamed a non existing waitress for losing in 1995! PATHETIC! Arrogant cheating winners as well. i can not stand them.
Certain key player's are weak making the all blacks fail Aaron smith can't tackle and is so slow, Aaron smith watches other team's score waving his arm's Sam cane isn't our best number ? Keeping old out if form past their prime, player's is the same as we did in 2019. Shame on foster for repeating the 2019 player's who failed Beauden barrett can't catch or function under pressue
Sitting on the fence waiting for the All Blacks to lose@@user-sn5zs9qh4wobvious your one of those who didn't want Foster as Coach yet he leaves after the RWC and we're stuck with him. Now your having a go at our players Beauden Barrett cause you think he can't catch, & Aaron Smith who is too slow & can't tackle, according to you, many were singing their praises before the loss to South Africa, They are great players so I would disagree with your assessment. They weren't the reason they lost they all contributed to errors made during the game by the All Blacks Team and would own blame as a Team
I agree with you 100%. I heard both Jeff and Justin. You learn more from Justin...and SkyNZ didn't sign him on for the RWC coverage. Their loss is Supersports/RSA's win
Great to see how the 'geniuses' at the RFU have run (ruined) English rugby at International and top level. Two clubs gone last year, who knows how many more this? No workable plans for Championship level teams to get promoted. Decrepit leadership at the top with too many old boys, I fear. Boks management showed innovation and imagination on Friday, England on Saturday showed less than brainless chickens.
I watched the breakdown and was also quite surprised as they are normally fairly gracious in defeat , to me this is indicative of how upset they are , blaming all and sundry from the ref to the bunker system to the 7-1 split , bottom line is that the couldn’t cope with the physicality and crumbled on the night , end of story.
I just shook my head when they said Scot Barrett's yellow card was not justified, would they have seen it like that were it a Bok player? They all agreed that Marx overacted...WTF???
mate did you not watch the game they was also 2 boks forwards should have been red carded for the clean outs at rucks so why blame barret when the ref was one sided?@@andrevogel1974
I'm a kiwi, live in NZ, and can confirm almost every pundit here is rubbish. Nzr owns shares in sky tv, so pundits and commentators are all part of the team. There's a reason sky tv didn't want Justin Marshall for the rwc
As a Springbok supporter, please do not underestimate the AB's. They are excellent players with brilliant skillset. They understand the game well. Yes the Springboks played well and I will take the win but the All Blacks will come back hard, one can be sure. There was no breaking of rules they took a gamble and it paid off. Every team has the right to choose the makeup of their replacements. If anything I believe the AB's will learn from the game more than what the Springboks will. I am just so exited with this World Cup with 4 teams that can win and several teams who could upset the applecart
Bok fan here, I really like two cents Rugby, I look for his views, he tells it straight even when it’s hurting. It’s so commendable. It must be hard to do an honest take after a big defeat but he does a good analysis on all of the games, sometimes pointing out things you wouldn’t otherwise understand.
yeah, love those two guys... I think the Goldies of the world are in the minority, although they shout the loudest. The way he insinuated Marx faking an injury after the Barrett incident.
The boks have no idea how much emotional damage they caused in NZ on Friday. At the same time I know there are many great NZ fans who see the result just for what it is. The breakdown had a breakdown.
As a kiwi we just got manhandled straight up. If the pacific island teams played the boks they wouldve lost or even a surpising upset but atleast they wouldnt get ragdolled and bullied all over the park. Nice work 🇿🇦🤙🏾
Why am I not surprised by the NZ Pundits, I obviously never thought they’ll go that low. Bad losers of note. Can you imagine if it was a SA commentator saying all the great stuff by Jeff Wilson and Co. I love my Boks. Thanks for an excellent content. 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
Matt Williams is not someone to be taken seriously. He ALWAYS has a dour take on SA rugby, and he has no record in rugby to boast of. He was a national head coach once (Scotland), and during his reign they won 3 out of 17 (still the worst record for a Scottish head coach). ALL he has is opinions - don't give him the time
Great video and feedback. I love how the Springboks have been humble and have just focused on getting prepared for the world cup. NZ are world class and no doubt will be strong as always. All teams have bad days but wow it was great to see the Springboks play like that. Your points are very fair. Innovation starts by trying things, not by breaking the rules and SA did nothing wrong. Rugby needs to keep changing and adapting and it makes for an exciting game then. Never mind the 7-1 bench, there are bigger issues around some of the rugby laws that need to be addressed. Great points and thanks for all the videos and feedback you provide. Going to be a great world cup. Tough games a plenty. The Springboks are a better side with Siya. No doubt. He brings so much to this team.
Great show. Yes, you are right. I made the comment on the NZ show (Breakdown). And I'll say it again. AB does not know how to play under pressure. They are so used to overpowering the rest of the world, and now the gap are almost even, now they want to complain and blame everyone but themselves. Sport is sport, you play win or loose take it and carry-on. What is the fun in winning every game. There is such thing as competition... If you read the laws right and see what others don't see, good on you. Rassie is more intelligent than anyone in Rugby at this stage. So he does everything that the book says, but now some people can't take that the AB loose. Really....
As a South African, it was great to see them put together a performance like that and I think the management team will be able to keep the players heads right for the all important RWC opener. I also like to catch up with the podcasts etc and heard Justin Marshall's take on things and I feel spot on. After those losses recently, he really got stuck into the All Blacks and from what I have picked up, he is about an All Black must "do the jersey proud" and respond mentally and physically to the challenges put in front of them. From what I could gather he is concerned that they weren't able to adapt and change in response to the SA onslaught. An All Black side will always bounce back and make the adjustments but their next game is France. This RWC is going to be amazing.
😂 I smell FEAR....summed it up perfectly!! Sure the ABs will be champing for revenge though... let's smokel them with sublime silky backline play with that forward dominance next game...Go Bokke!!
100% agree Brendan, Matt Williams comments were ridiculous, Jeff Wilsons were plain stupid. Brilliant to see innovative coaches, SA have the best atm. Yoda 😂. From a welshman in panic mode 😮
Surprised not to see MW on ESPN advising Griniron coaches to scrap Offense Defense, Special teams et al as being loopholes in the rules spoiling the game.
Saw on The Breakdown they said that Malcolm Marx "went down like a football player" and acted injured. Hope he runs into Mills or Jeff Wilson somewhere.😂
I mean how can you argue for "safety" that a loose forward cannot play in the backline? I mean modern attacking open play formations have the fucking hooker on the wing!
Irish supporter here....every team is going to play to its strengths and this is the boks' strength. Nothing unfair about it. But it's a risky tactic and could cost them dearly going forward
as a bok supporter an South African, the RWC is still wide open any one of these teams on the day can win it. This chap is a joke look at wildkard rugby, saying don't react its meant for rage posters. I agree there was no loophole, just playing to the strengths. Much respect to NZ they have always been a great opponent. I was at the Durban game when they whipped us 55 - 0. We get on with it, go Boks :D
Rassie can read a game and when he sends his ‘colour’ signals from the sideline , he is able to change the the team’s attack at any given moment. Well done Rassie
Thank you Brenden for shows that are objective and give credit where credit is due! Rest of the world should learn what is means to show good sportsmanship.
They are so scared of our forwards😂 They will try anything. You nailed it though Brendan, it’s a risk on the team implementing it. What if there’s 3 injuries in the backline and you now have a slow backline. Cry me a river…
All Black fan here. I’ll say it again because there hasn’t been enough recognition. SA played exceptionally totally outclassed us! Again if we had 17 men. It wouldn’t matter we would have lost. However, the writing has been on the wall for the All Blacks. Fosters coaching style I have never agreed with and feel like I’m going nuts watching them make the same mistakes! Anyway congratulations to the Boks!
@@Mark777h Thank you. No I believe you. You guys have been kind in defeat. I am surprised by the reaction. Justin Marshall was the only honest one on Sky Sport. But he has been dropped, can you believe it? They only want yes men. He was dropped I believe because he said. “Some all blacks shouldn’t be there” (in response to a series of defeats In 2021-22) The All Blacks team need a serious look at themselves. About the springboks, I believe rugby has just evolved with this hyper physical, 7-1 split! The game will be forever different. The Springboks I believe are the number one team in the world. Physical, smart, believe in themselves. So a big congrats is deserved. The Sky Sport panel. Needs to apologise to Rassie/Nienebar and the SA fan base. I apologise on behalf of them.
@@Mark777h Thanks Mark. I must say, is 777 for the aircraft? Good luck to you as well. I am the same, a team I feared most. We have a high amount of respect here in New Zealand for South Africa. And know you guys are like us, love rugby, steak/BBQ/BRAAI and having a good time. Only you are about 2* as big as us for some reason lol 😂
Kiwi hard... We lost because of basic mistakes and too much pressure .. full stop. It makes things interesting that SA has come up with their joker card, but if you play your cards right you can still win regarless of the joker. When you focus on one area of play, other areas become weaker. Its up to every other team to find a solution.. This is why rugby is so great... its like playing chess.. expose the weak points and attack.
Has a lifelong Wales supporter, I applaud South Africa and their coach, they played to their strengths, and they didn't do anything wrong, If they were prepared to split the bench that's a perfectly legal call.
Was so refreshing seeing the All Blacks pinged for cynical play and actually punished for all those professional fouls they commit game after game to rather give away a potential 3 pts instead of conceding try. And was especially nice to see Kolisi be ruthless this time, and push the button, not relenting, but I guess, that was only really possible thanks to ref doing his job, good on Kolisi being aware, and seeing the opportunity. I hope this trend of All Blacks being pinged for cynical play is a permanent change, its about time.
mate did you not watch the game they was also 2 boks forwards should have been red carded for the clean outs at rucks so why blame barret when the ref was one sided?
@@robertmcdougall3520 where in the world were there two boks who deserved 2 red cards for cleanouts? the ones they showed on the show with Jeff Wilson? That is probably where your opinion above comes from. Those cleans were good, and they were on players who were on the ball. Perfectly LEGAL. Stop listening to stupid pundits and look at the footage without biased commentary designed to change your opinion. Think for yourself and come to your own conclusions. We are not sheep unless you want to be
dud i can make up my own mind and i have seen enough to say that head on head contact is a red card and believe it or not, im not a idiot like some other people out there@@renewablefuelsanalyst8263
A few yrs ago in the 6N, Italy exploited a loophole (to great effect) in a game against England. English players were complaining to Romain Poite but he simply told them Italy weren't breaking the law and it was not his place to tell Eng how to defend against it. Within a short period of time, IRB/World Rugby legislated against the loophole and closed it. I guess it all depends on who complains and who can benefit from it.
Bok rugby keeps the game honest, always has. 🏴 fan, we have SAs playing for us because the eligibility rules allow it. We are going chuck the ball about and you are going to try and stop us - that's the game. I can't believe some the NZ pundits either. They were caught cold - simple.
They made a lot about props like lomax and de groot. They were made to look like meat puppets on friday. The replacement props that came on for the NZ a lot of crowing was done for them. They too were made to look like children. I am glad that the bokke won in the way they did. But this doesnt mean we have won the world cup. 2 more months to find out. It is showing how NZ is missing the physicality of SA teams in the super rugby. And one thing SA rugby has learned. Albeit doing my head in sometimes, was to have two first teams and constantly rotate the players. This i now see as a way to bleed in newer players. Also, with the URC and the Heinekin cup, i think SA is accustomed to how northern hemisphere refs are blowing. You dont get that exposure with super rugby. And SA's lack of presence in NZ is telling. You sharpen iron with iron...
Not only do SA have exposure to NH refs (and remember how we battled in early days of the URC?) but perhaps more pertinently NZ do not. Super Rugby is reffed by NZ and Aus referees only, there is way too much leeway given the players and what all of us tend to forget is that a red card in SR is only a 20 minute binning followed by replacement. So yeah, domestically, they are not getting hammered by big physical forward packs and even when they are, they can give away the three points and reset. By not taking the three, we forced them to infringe repeatedly and the rest is history. It's almost as though they did not expect a forward battle from a Springbok team with 15 forwards on the team sheet.....
Ex pat kiwi here. Enjoying yr pod. Some in NZ media often don't realize how embarrassing they are, like a spoilt child who can't get their own way, spits the dummy & can't admit the truth tht the idolized ABs are not always the best... I LOVED the game!! It reinforced the fact the SA team is smarter coached & has an inspirational on field leader. Thought it was excellent getting tries by using NZs strength (maul defense) against them by leaving Marx free for an easy run in etc. Jeff Wilson was a tremendous player but he's increasingly a hard watch on tv...I guess the bottom line is, he's employed, I think, in part by the system he's ardently defending. I love rugby more than a particular team. I really hope we get a new champ this year like Ireland or France, even the Scots have a shot! If NZ or SA win, it'll be the last 5 RWCs won by just the 2 same teams!! Not a spectacle for everyone else over time imo.
The Springboks deserve the chance to defend their title. They don't exactly have the easiest road, so if they win, they deserve it.. Formula 1 is still going strong after Michael Schumacher, tennis after Bjorn Borg etc. If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best. Why didn't you raise your concerns in 2011 or 2015?
BOK supporter hoping my 2nd team France will win. it is long overdue for them being runner up 3 times and will be good for the tournament. Boks vs France final I am hoping
Pinning my hopes on a SA-Ireland final, as much as I'd like the Boks to win,fully agree a French (as hosts) orIreland win would be spectacular given their current form.
oh get real dude , tennis and f1 are stronger than ever despite the domination of a select few. The challenge in sport is trying to beat the best, thats what brings in the crowds
Good video Brendon. The All Blacks are very lucky the match officials did not pick up on the obstruction they are doing with the Lineouts. The ball is in the air, (towards the Locks for catching the ball)they already bind with our players, to prevent the Boks a quality maul. Jeff Wilson only showed the 1 angle of Barret on Malcom. Sour Grapes
With Kwagga Smith, he played loads of sevens rugby, he can play anywhere in the backline at a high level if required. Just a great rugby footballer with a habit of scoring tries against the ABs. 🤠
Are you kidding initial kiwi comments did acknowledge South Africa's win against the All Blacks but some South Africans got carried away telling us how dominant they are over the All Blacks 1-1 this year 1-1 last year and the further back we go that South African dominance isn't so prominent. We were disappointed losing but South Africans want more than our disappointment they want to tell us we have no chance of winning, and South Africa are going to win the RWC. That's why kiwis started getting pissed off with their South Africans counterparts. New Zealanders win or lose get over it quicker than South Africans do. Nobody needed to Acknowledge South Africa's win. South African acknowledged themselves taking the All Blacks apart been hearing it for days now, "WE LOST" for the hundredth time and forget that 2 win 17 losses Coach Matt Williams, I say the Majority don't share his views and we in New Zealand don't either.
@@richardmatatahi4563bullshit artist grow up never heard so much shite in my life most u guys expect to win every game and think u all own rugby it’s all over the blogs tv UA-cam most u AB,fans r bad losers ,most Saffers lives don’t depend on it because they have many other interests what gets on our nerves is many of u guys are bad losers ! I have had a bit of time off and read a fair few post and from what I have acknowledged it’s a lot of kiwi fans mouthing off that it’s only a friendly and 14 against 15 , the ref was shite Boks cheated……………more so than the few Bok fans bloating ! Many of your fellow countryman have acknowledged that on this blog and else where ?😅
Even 8-0 split will be amazing. Sour grapes and if the AB did the same , it would be transformational . Go Bokke !!!!! The bomb squad became a herd of elephants 😅
Spot on Brenden. Going 7-1 is not even a loophole. It's very simply just within the law. The only difference is that other teams haven't done it due to the risk factor. The risk is worth taking with a 6-2 for the Boks due to the forwards being so bladdy awesome and the 2 backs being so versatile, but I think to use 7-1 regularly would probably be too risky. It was deemed feasible due to Willie's niggle as you said, Brenden. Matt Williams clearly has had an agenda for years, and isn't worth listening to really. Jeff also was way out of line on this occasion, like the time he suggested Ardie should be an impact player.
South Africa is leading the innovation the other countries need to come up with counter plays . first it was South Africa Kicking now every country is kicking more than South Africa now south Africa mole better now . All Blacks are now complaining the game is to long with TMO now the banker
Kiwi here. The Boks were awesome. Most pundits here are NOT singing from the Jeff Wilson songbook. The AB's were pretty awful. The Boks absolutely deserved their win and were the better team by a huge margin. They'll be v hard to beat at World Cup.
It's any teams prerogative to pick anybody in any position they want, if we want to pick Faf at lock, if we want 8 props on the bench, it has nothing to do with anyone except the risk we take...
ABs will be back, but the Boks, Ire on tour, Fra in Paris and Eng in 19, showed how to beat the ABs. This is pure sour grapes. I watched some of the NZ player interviews after the test and Savea/ Coles were humble, acknowledged they wilted under the pressure, complimented the boks and said they had a tough few weeks coming up. The NZ pundits should have done the same, instead of being in denial.
Am a Kiwi, the coach can select whatever numbers they want on the bench. As Brin Hall says Kwagga Smith can play any back position including half back. It is a risk reward decision. Well done to SA. The are the favorites in my opinion. Should be a great WC.
I suspect the problem stems from the fact that the South African team is from Africa, and not of a "traditional English" origin (France and Italy were old Empires so "tolerated" and part of the EU etc. so shared identity) - look at how Georgia, Argentina, Japan and even the Tier 2 nations are treated by the "old boy's club"
The extra fwds on the bench helps more for keeping minutes down and players fit for the RWC. It definitely does not increase risk of injury for the opposition.
Fantastic tactical decision by SA to go for a 7 - 1 split like that. It has achieved what they wanted. Fear. Now everybody is afraid of them or at the very least, talking about them. And now, international coaches everywhere have this extra unwanted distraction going into the World Cup. Congrats guys👏 well done. Looking forward to meeting you in the Pool games 👍 🇮🇪 ☘️ 🏉
Just need to understand and from the age of 5 been following and playing rugby. In my 53 years of following this game and especially the last 25 years of professional rugby, i have never seen a law that states you have to have certain amount of positions in your team whith the exception of the front row... So if you want to play 17 flankers and 6 front rows in your team, its your choice. Its crazy to think to change the law, so do u only need to have 2 locks in ur team or can you have 5 locks that can cover multiple positions. It paid off for the Boks on Friday, it could have gone the wrong way... Sour grape from certain people. Well done for the Bok coaching team.
I wouldn't say they were not on form, I think they were shell shocked and simply couldn't regroup as the constant pressure is something new to them. But my guess is it won't happen again should we again meet them in the QF's. It will be a different kettle of fish.
@@andrevogel1974 Come on mate. I've never seen NZ play like that in my life, and my old man said the same thing and he's been around a lot longer than me. The amount of knock-ons, interceptions, and lost lineouts was unbelievable. Yes, some was from pressure, but ultimately they hadn't had several warm-up games to get into a groove like SA had. Would they have won if they'd played as well as SA? Probably not. They don't have the power up-front.
Great review Brenden ! SA were awesome this weekend ... the Breakdown was very biased and ignoring the gaps upfront been NZ and SA ... worse they blamed the ref ! who showed a lot of patience in the first 20min .. could have yellowed a few more. I would like to see 3 subs max however SA looking massive ... Well down from Wales !
O please.. This is the first time that I’ve heard that it’s been an issue. As Nienaber said it’s risky for the team doing that. It is not a “loophole”. The biggest change in the boks’s play the past 12 months for those who may have taken a break from watching Rugby, was nurturing out wide back line play. To try to read something sinister into this once off 7-1 while they had every incentive to balance game exposure and protect injuries before RWC kick off is frankly ridicilous.
It's the same as when the driving maul came a major part of our game . Every one wanted to change the rules. We are innovators in the game . Jeff Wilson we left at least 20 points on the field we have much more to show. I am shocked at your reaction to the great Bok victory
All Black supporter here - NZ have a very soft underbelly that has ben exposed multiple times in the last few years - by Ireland, Argentina, England (last ten minutes of that test), and South Africa. The SA win was just brilliant. A record win by any test side against the AB's. Congratulations to the Springboks. A well deserved win.
Respect mate! Spoken like a true lover of the game. Between us, I think the French have reason to worry, playing a wounded AB side in the opening match is a comfartable prospect at all. We all know that this defeat will absolutely bring out the best in this great Kiwi team.
Love the humility! Aaah man ABs won’t let there be a repeat of that performance - still very strong contenders. Opening match is going to be epic
Thank you! Until we meet again... what a game rugby is?
Welsh guy here. .Why do you pick Sam Cane. He's just not good enough.
The comments about the lack of reality shown by NZ pundits is old...repetitive...but oh so true. Justin Marshall hasa better, more balanced view because he has experience away from NZ...and I don't mean cheap Yen in a second class league.
Anyway World Rugby (Bill Beaumont) should be ashamed of themselves caving in to the French and picking the pools 3 years ago. Next time pick them after the final warmup game.
To all cheers, beers, have the best world cup. And play it without all the off field whining from Australia 😂
yea if our forwards cant at least equal the opposing team we lose
I’m Australian and I think it’s ridiculous that this is being made into an issue. As the SA coach said, if you get a couple of back injuries, you’re screwed with an 7-1 split. SA traditionally make awesome forwards, so why wouldn’t they play into that strength and take a risk. Sour grapes from people whining about it
Not if you have players who can play well also as a back. Many Bok loose-forwards can play well as backs, eg Smith. Hence, I don’t buy the risks are bigger than the rewards point too much. However, I don’t think the rules should be changed. Others can do the same thing. So it’s not unfair.
@@johnhanson5943 where in the backline is Kwagga Smith lining up where he won’t be a significant downgrade in attack and in defence? Yeah he’s fast for a forward, but he’d be exposed one on one in space against a world class back. Also, as you said, there’s nothing stopping other teams from employing the same tactic. I honestly think this is people trying to steal SA’s thunder after a great performance
@@johnhanson5943lol many so you name 1 hahah
@@nielvanderwalt1965 it’s obviously going to be in the centres and in either spot he’s going to be a hindrance in attack and at a speed disadvantage in defence. Great player, but to think he’s going to cut it against NZ, France or Ireland at centre is a big reach. I get where you’re coming from, but the Saffas have just figured out an advantage here and that’s all there is to it. Are you a kiwi haha?
Bad loosers,you not that good,The boks won fair ,get over it,We just much better!!!
You guys hammered us, pure and simple. Congrats SA.
Mate, I think it is still overall 70% to 30% to you guys. We know how good you are and how far we still need to go! You destroyed us in NZ earlier this year 😀
This loss was and still is a reality check for the AB. They are still a great team, but perhaps not as dominant after that 2011-2015 greatest of all time AB team
Great sportsmanship @leslockett7386! You win some (a lot) and you loose some. And it is great to accept it, congratulate the winning team and move on.
Yes...But we are humble enough to know the All Blacks will be back with a vengeance
More of the same coming after these comments from the AB pundits. This is and has been since last year a SUB/STANDARD AB team and coach.
correction Brenden: The boks using a 7-1 split is not the exploitation of a loophole... it is within the law, no loophole. Ridiculous. Matt Williams was a terrible coach and is an even worse pundit. He is decidedly anti-Bok... pathetic.
To give you an idea about how anti-Bok he is, he said, "The way you fix it is say you must have three recognised backs on your bench" to combat the 6-2 split SA favoured in the RWC. Problem with that of course is that New Zealand on Friday used a 6-2 split and not one complaint about that.
Yes. What if a flank decides he wants to play on the wing now. Will he be banned? And who will decide what position a player must in future always play? Are these guys really this dumb?
Nothing stops any other team from playing a 7 - 1 or a 8 - 0 split if you want. It's a helluva risk, but it did pay off for the Boks, this time. Can't see them usinf it in a knock out game though, just too much of a gamble.
Well said. 👏
I was unfortunate enough to have Matt williams as a teacher at school and his name was 2 dicks because you can't be that big a wanker with 1
As an Englishman, I have no issue with how the Boks stack their bench. Only wish we had a forward pack like theirs.
Thanks
Exactly - kiwis, where can we find a bomb squad!? congrats Boks on an immense win.
you mean 2 forward packs like theirs ... :)))
@@open-debate yep, when we play them, I'd like a Marx :-)
At the right price I can send you two ... we breed them on large scale in SA ;) @@nzfreeski
This is bonkers - seems like a hugely deserved Boks win is not to be appreciated - they were brilliant, played fantastic rugby and this is from a Scot looking from behind the couch - Fair play to the Boks
you can come out from behind the coach. we will give you the easy treatment and save the energy for the Irish which we will soften up for you. I am hoping the Boks and Scots gets out of the pool
This Irish was behind his couch too watching those Springboks run amock. Slainte.
@@martinmcdonald4207 The Bok forwards remind me of my grand dads John Deer tractor. Difficult to start at first but hard to stop once it fires on all cylinders even after turning off the ignition.
If Ireland makes it out of pool B and you face the AB's, I am behind you all the way and hope they can replicate the series win performance last year.
I’ve seen a couple of weird takes from my fellow kiwis. I put it down to us just taking our worst defeat ever in a game immediately heading into a World Cup. As Kiwis we used to pride ourselves on doing things differently and not doing the same thing as everyone else, such as brining in an Aussie rules coach to teach skills, inventing the pod system etc… so it’s really disappointing to see kiwis getting upset that someone is doing something differently that is extremely effective for them.
Thank you ✌🇿🇦
Just a couple? Uh Huh..... Suzie, the imaginary waitress that cost you the cup in 1995? This is not new. There is always something.
Certain key player's are weak making the all blacks fail
Aaron smith can't tackle and is so slow, Aaron smith watches other team's score waving his arm's
Sam cane isn't our best number ?
Keeping old out if form past their prime, player's is the same as we did in 2019. Shame on foster for repeating the 2019 player's who failed
Beauden barrett can't catch or function under pressue
Who said it was a kiwis complaining it didn't sound like a kiwi asking the question at the press conference don't make accusations that ain't there. The dude sounded like a UK reporter and Matt Williams has no connection to the All Blacks, they weren't complaining about losing, or the game, they took what was served up to them at Twickenham, and moved on. Someone from Scotland ain't someone from New Zealand. keep it real.gee. The All Blacks ain't brought this matter up at all, no one there has mentioned the matter. I saw nothing wrong with Justin comment he didn't mention South Africa's 7-1 one selections, yet the finger is pointing to the All Blacks. Kiwi supporters or media don't make the rules, no matter what opinions they have or anyone for that matter. Find out where WR sit on the matter, why are we blaming the All Blacks again??? A South African stirring it up. Don't judge us on a few kiwi comments that I'm yet to see, that many of us also wouldn't agree with. The rules don't in my view need changing, a kiwi opinion. Next thing we know South Africans are blaming the All Blacks because of your report. And the All Blacks haven't said a word.
Ya nit picking mate.
I think the Boks did us a favour! BUT in saying that I have been saying this for the last 5 years - we (the All Blacks) are deluded in thinking that our running game is going to win us a world cup!
I am not surprised in what Williams said. In the week after Springboks lost to the Abs. He made the comment that the Boks were out of sorts and "As soon as they come up against the big boys their game hits the wall. " Now, he needs to decide if the ABs are part of the " big boys" club seeing as the game worked quite well.
He is the same guy who wrote that LA Rochelle were just lucky to beat Leinster in 2002 only to witness them stuff them again in 2023.
To say he is mediocre is being generous.
He is a grumpy old coach who never made it.
Congratulations to South Africa.
The Springboks are awesome.
What a forward pack and a great bench.
I am All Black fan by the way.We have absolutely no excuses.
Ridiculous discussion! Congrats SA playing to their Strengths shouldn't be criticised.. 🤞 🇮🇪
Just proof Rassie is a rugby genius.
Ireland fan here - don't see an issue with the 7-1 split. It's a risk for SA to take - if they get injuries in their backline then it can backfire and they will have to adapt. Much like how Ireland had to adapt against Scotland by putting in Healy (a loosehead) at hooker and had VDF (an openside) throwing into the lineout.
Exactly. The Boks strategy makes perfect sense with the playing pool they have. It makes much less sense if you are, e.g., England, which is precisely why these calls are suddenly being made again. It happened after the last World Cup. It's happening before this one.
ive not seen anyone make a big deal about a 7-1 split have you?
@@MA-ik7ys Have you heard of Matt Williams?
Hi Brenden, as a kiwi I enjoy listening to your channel, very well rounded I believe. When you're at the top of your game you'll always be criticized, called cheats or said to be favoured by the refs.
It comes with the territory. I think it was a brilliant move by the bok coaching staff and it did have its risks, but they rolled the dice and came out on top.
Journo's don't represent the majority of us. We'll done..... " we'll be back".👍👍👍
Mate as a SA living in NZ, I can honestly say that Jeff Wilson's take is far more widespread than what you might the world to believe. Im of the opinion that most NZ'ers are AB fans first. Talking to Kiwi mates of mine after a game you hear all sorts. Reading comments online just as much. Ive learned over the years to stay balanced with my emotions re a loss or a win. Kiwis not so much. And Im all for banter but most times they like a pack of dogs who smelled blood. 52-0? Oh my word! Contrast to days like last week. They usually avoid me and have this pained expression everytime they see me. One should support rugby first, I think. That allows you to see that what Scott Barrett did is way worse than PSdT swinging arm. Not trying to put anyone down. Just trying to give you my honest appraisel, for what its worth...
@@RD-sp5us Yes for sure Geoff Wilson has his supporters,some times I agree with what he says,other times not. Does Geoff represent the majority of us......?
You'll find negativity in everything if you look for it. NZ is far from perfect....but who is?
I love how the Springboks grew in this couple of years we have not only the forward power but now also a great backline attack .... great creativity
Spot on
But our handling skills still need work
Yes awesome team
Yes awesome team
Matt Williams cry me a river.
There is nothing wrong with the Boks choosing a 7/1 bench or using the "Bomb-Squad" methods if this is within the rules. It's up to other teams to adapt. The rules are there for everyone to adhere to and use however they see fit for their team.
Rules are frequently changed if people find a loophole, personally don't think world rugby wants the abuse of a system which was meant for safety, as an advantage playing, spirit of the game is important
I'd like ro see an 8 / 0 split
They should give Mr Wison a red card
@marcdunne7831 7-1 split is not an abuse of the rules. There are no rules that dictate the split thus it is legal. This is a professional sport, not amateur sport. Professional sport uses the rules to win. Adapt or loose...
@@Profreegolfer you're right but abuse doesn't necessarily mean illegal it is possible to abuse without breaking rules, I'm not saying south Africa are wrong, but world rugby should recognise it's against the spirit of the law, safety was primarily the reason for it particularly for forwards which is a very tough position but not too have two separate forward packs.
I got to meet Sir John Kirwan outside Twickers before the game for an “ussie” and he was incredibly friendly, and frankly treated all the Saffa fans out there like we were members of the family that he hasn’t seen in a while. Asked me where I got my old school Bok Jersey and how he remembers playing against it. Incredibly nice, friendly man. That’s generally my take away when I meet New Zealanders. This reaction from Jeff Wilson surprised me. I think New Zealanders are struggling to get used to the post-McCaw/post-2015 era where they no longer win everything. Some will be gracious about it. Other will try to find excuses.
JK is a great bloke and most New Zealanders are as well. I love touring the country, enjoy the people immensely and have fond memories of the times I've been there. And generally they're very level-headed on rugby matters as well.
@@BrendenNelI looked for you at the game Brenden! Was hoping to buy you a beer! Maybe next time. :)
@@sniperdpssadly wasnt there. but next time! Always up for a beer
They must get used to it cause it might take Avery long while before we see another great dominant AB side. Rugby has evolved
The world has caught new teams in this year world cup for the 1st time is Chile knocking out USA & missed out in most other world cups some of the top teams get beaten on any given day no team is immune or exempt of getting knocked out.
To stay one step ahead you must take risks and be prepared to push boundaries. Well done Jaques and Rassie.
Fortune favours the brave, excellent work from South Africa, all the best to you from an Ireland.
NZ is a great rugby nation and a respected rival on the pitch. I love to see them any time playing against the Boks and it is always exiting to watch them compete and it doesn't matter who wins. a Win today is always a Lost tomorrow. Please don't kill rugby just because one's favorite team lost a game. Let us move on and enjoy the game.
They are PATHETIC! No issue with the HAKA, that is a WAR dance, dating back to CANNIBALISM, yet the All Blacks are not only allowed to use it, but teams are NOT allowed to challenge it. PATHETIC! The Haka gives the All Blacks a psychological edge! Without it, they will lose their "allure" and they will be just another team. Why should we put up with that BULLSHIT!!! I can not STAND NZ! What a bunch of sore losers they are! NEVER give credit to anyone. Blamed a non existing waitress for losing in 1995! PATHETIC! Arrogant cheating winners as well. i can not stand them.
Certain key player's are weak making the all blacks fail
Aaron smith can't tackle and is so slow, Aaron smith watches other team's score waving his arm's
Sam cane isn't our best number ?
Keeping old out if form past their prime, player's is the same as we did in 2019. Shame on foster for repeating the 2019 player's who failed
Beauden barrett can't catch or function under pressue
Totally agree AB Supporter.
Sitting on the fence waiting for the All Blacks to lose@@user-sn5zs9qh4wobvious your one of those who didn't want Foster as Coach yet he leaves after the RWC and we're stuck with him.
Now your having a go at our players Beauden Barrett cause you think he can't catch, & Aaron Smith who is too slow & can't tackle, according to you, many were singing their praises before the loss to South Africa, They are great players so I would disagree with your assessment. They weren't the reason they lost they all contributed to errors made during the game by the All Blacks Team and would own blame as a Team
completely agree - how can there be an issue with the structure of the bench? That is the bok strategy. Congrats on your immense win, end of story.
As a Scot I see absolutely nothing wrong with the SA approach - and certainly do not see it as any kind of "loop hole" that has to be addressed.
The bok pack is monstrous. Rassie is way too smart for the rest of the dinosaurs. Sour grapes.... No rules were broken
I agree with you 100%. I heard both Jeff and Justin. You learn more from Justin...and SkyNZ didn't sign him on for the RWC coverage. Their loss is Supersports/RSA's win
HAHA...Rassie and Jaque have Rugby unions rattled. the springbok pack is the most powerful i have ever seen in all of my time watching test rugby.
Rassie is the Brain behind the strategy before Nienaber was on the scene... Its like a game of chess
Agree 100%
Great to see how the 'geniuses' at the RFU have run (ruined) English rugby at International and top level. Two clubs gone last year, who knows how many more this? No workable plans for Championship level teams to get promoted. Decrepit leadership at the top with too many old boys, I fear. Boks management showed innovation and imagination on Friday, England on Saturday showed less than brainless chickens.
I watched the breakdown and was also quite surprised as they are normally fairly gracious in defeat , to me this is indicative of how upset they are , blaming all and sundry from the ref to the bunker system to the 7-1 split , bottom line is that the couldn’t cope with the physicality and crumbled on the night , end of story.
I just shook my head when they said Scot Barrett's yellow card was not justified, would they have seen it like that were it a Bok player? They all agreed that Marx overacted...WTF???
Kudos to the boks for having 7 extra forwards players that are equally as good as the others
mate did you not watch the game they was also 2 boks forwards should have been red carded for the clean outs at rucks so why blame barret when the ref was one sided?@@andrevogel1974
disagree that they are normally gracious in defeat, quite the opposite in fact.
I'm a kiwi, live in NZ, and can confirm almost every pundit here is rubbish. Nzr owns shares in sky tv, so pundits and commentators are all part of the team. There's a reason sky tv didn't want Justin Marshall for the rwc
Watched the Breakdown show it was a disgrace the only guy on that show that spoke sense was Hansen on his guest appearance
As a Kiwi it was embarrassing, apologies to Saffas
Whole heartedly agree with your take on this game, the All Blacks were over whealmed by a well prepared Boks Team.
Yes ,we nzders, should not be worried, if anything it's evens,more games to come yet , cheers
As a Springbok supporter, please do not underestimate the AB's. They are excellent players with brilliant skillset. They understand the game well. Yes the Springboks played well and I will take the win but the All Blacks will come back hard, one can be sure. There was no breaking of rules they took a gamble and it paid off. Every team has the right to choose the makeup of their replacements. If anything I believe the AB's will learn from the game more than what the Springboks will. I am just so exited with this World Cup with 4 teams that can win and several teams who could upset the applecart
Marsall is disliked in NZ as he is balanced. As are Two Cents Rugby and Distracted Sports....two really good Kiwi blokes
Bok fan here, I really like two cents Rugby, I look for his views, he tells it straight even when it’s hurting. It’s so commendable. It must be hard to do an honest take after a big defeat but he does a good analysis on all of the games, sometimes pointing out things you wouldn’t otherwise understand.
yeah, love those two guys... I think the Goldies of the world are in the minority, although they shout the loudest. The way he insinuated Marx faking an injury after the Barrett incident.
They are fantastic to listen to. Very unbiased.
I agree . Two cents is biased... He definitely is not a SA fan
@@oratilemakgaka8411 I don't think so? But we can agree to disagree 😉
Can you imagine the outcry if we should ever dare to play the same 15 players for the full 80 minutes? Williams & Co will probably suffer a stroke.
The boks have no idea how much emotional damage they caused in NZ on Friday. At the same time I know there are many great NZ fans who see the result just for what it is. The breakdown had a breakdown.
and a simultaneous meltdown.
Breakdown nonsense is exactly why I don't support the ABs
Nz is kak. Full stop. Overrated and no depth. Can’t live in the past forever
agree - the breakdown was embarrassing. I don't think it's caused the AB squad emotional damage, let's see. But congrats on that immense game.
As a kiwi we just got manhandled straight up. If the pacific island teams played the boks they wouldve lost or even a surpising upset but atleast they wouldnt get ragdolled and bullied all over the park. Nice work 🇿🇦🤙🏾
Injury is the worst outcome and should be avoided at all cost in the RWC..Bravo to the Boks Managment and coaching team...#4 Bring it home Bokke.
After years and years of watching dull conservative SA teams it is very refreshing that for once we are innovating in a way nobody had thought of !
South Africa has huge respect for the AB, its always a great game and they are a team that will come back strong, looking forward to the next game.
Why am I not surprised by the NZ Pundits, I obviously never thought they’ll go that low. Bad losers of note. Can you imagine if it was a SA commentator saying all the great stuff by Jeff Wilson and Co. I love my Boks. Thanks for an excellent content.
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As far as I am concerned, have whoever you want on the bench, you want 8 props, fine, as long as you stick to the rules.
Agree...I think they are getting nervous😂Rassie is to clever
Exactly!
Matt Williams is not someone to be taken seriously.
He ALWAYS has a dour take on SA rugby, and he has no record in rugby to boast of. He was a national head coach once (Scotland), and during his reign they won 3 out of 17 (still the worst record for a Scottish head coach). ALL he has is opinions - don't give him the time
His scared that the boys will destroy Scotland😂
This is gold 😂. All Blacks pundits are currently doing a brilliant impersonation of a fish on dry land
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Great video and feedback. I love how the Springboks have been humble and have just focused on getting prepared for the world cup. NZ are world class and no doubt will be strong as always. All teams have bad days but wow it was great to see the Springboks play like that. Your points are very fair. Innovation starts by trying things, not by breaking the rules and SA did nothing wrong. Rugby needs to keep changing and adapting and it makes for an exciting game then. Never mind the 7-1 bench, there are bigger issues around some of the rugby laws that need to be addressed. Great points and thanks for all the videos and feedback you provide. Going to be a great world cup. Tough games a plenty. The Springboks are a better side with Siya. No doubt. He brings so much to this team.
As a Springbok fan all I can say this win over the ABs were unbelievable, a totally unexpected outcome of the game. It messes with your brain!
Great show. Yes, you are right. I made the comment on the NZ show (Breakdown). And I'll say it again. AB does not know how to play under pressure. They are so used to overpowering the rest of the world, and now the gap are almost even, now they want to complain and blame everyone but themselves. Sport is sport, you play win or loose take it and carry-on. What is the fun in winning every game. There is such thing as competition... If you read the laws right and see what others don't see, good on you. Rassie is more intelligent than anyone in Rugby at this stage. So he does everything that the book says, but now some people can't take that the AB loose. Really....
THANK YOU !! 7-1 is the height of ingenuity and we were blessed as spectators to have seen such innovation
As a South African, it was great to see them put together a performance like that and I think the management team will be able to keep the players heads right for the all important RWC opener. I also like to catch up with the podcasts etc and heard Justin Marshall's take on things and I feel spot on. After those losses recently, he really got stuck into the All Blacks and from what I have picked up, he is about an All Black must "do the jersey proud" and respond mentally and physically to the challenges put in front of them. From what I could gather he is concerned that they weren't able to adapt and change in response to the SA onslaught. An All Black side will always bounce back and make the adjustments but their next game is France. This RWC is going to be amazing.
Brendon, the bokke played brilliantly, they thoroughly deserved their win. They took a risk with injuries to backs, and it paid off. Well done them.
As a saffa living in NZ, the sound of the hadedas...homesick lol
😂 I smell FEAR....summed it up perfectly!!
Sure the ABs will be champing for revenge though... let's smokel them with sublime silky backline play with that forward dominance next game...Go Bokke!!
I do not think all the cards have been played yet, some more surprises to come...
A kiwi here, Congrats to the boks. No denying it was a righteous trouncing.
See you at the world cup. Hopefully the ab's will have it sorted by then.
100% agree Brendan, Matt Williams comments were ridiculous, Jeff Wilsons were plain stupid. Brilliant to see innovative coaches, SA have the best atm. Yoda 😂. From a welshman in panic mode 😮
Surprised not to see MW on ESPN advising Griniron coaches to scrap Offense Defense, Special teams et al as being loopholes in the rules spoiling the game.
Matt Williams record as head coach:
Played - 17
Lost - 14
Won - 3 (Italy, Samoa & Japan)
Matt Williams - never heard of her.
Thought she was a swimmer
@@whattinsanaemh9449
With an attitude like his it doesn’t surprise!
Saw on The Breakdown they said that Malcolm Marx "went down like a football player" and acted injured. Hope he runs into Mills or Jeff Wilson somewhere.😂
From the same person who blamed "Suzie" for the 1995 loss.....
Need I say more?
Alot like vermeulens "serious" shoulder injury
It never surprising to see how "world rugby needs to do something" when boks win games.
I mean how can you argue for "safety" that a loose forward cannot play in the backline? I mean modern attacking open play formations have the fucking hooker on the wing!
Irish supporter here....every team is going to play to its strengths and this is the boks' strength. Nothing unfair about it. But it's a risky tactic and could cost them dearly going forward
Nienaber did say they won't be doing it again.
And you believe that? too funny@@wot4922
as a bok supporter an South African, the RWC is still wide open any one of these teams on the day can win it. This chap is a joke look at wildkard rugby, saying don't react its meant for rage posters. I agree there was no loophole, just playing to the strengths. Much respect to NZ they have always been a great opponent. I was at the Durban game when they whipped us 55 - 0. We get on with it, go Boks :D
Rassie can read a game and when he sends his ‘colour’ signals from the sideline , he is able to change the the team’s attack at any given moment. Well done Rassie
Thank you Brenden for shows that are objective and give credit where credit is due! Rest of the world should learn what is means to show good sportsmanship.
Think that goes both ways mate. You guys been pushing the gloat button lately.
also just love Rassie and Jacques, you just knew they had some shit brewing, loving the Boks
They are so scared of our forwards😂 They will try anything. You nailed it though Brendan, it’s a risk on the team implementing it. What if there’s 3 injuries in the backline and you now have a slow backline. Cry me a river…
Mate no one’s scared of SA forwards. They just big they have no skill. Can’t wait for France to bully and batter the box
Agree, it's a risky option that can easily backfire on you
Why South African rugby players are so big compare to other nations?
All Black fan here. I’ll say it again because there hasn’t been enough recognition. SA played exceptionally totally outclassed us!
Again if we had 17 men. It wouldn’t matter we would have lost.
However, the writing has been on the wall for the All Blacks. Fosters coaching style I have never agreed with and feel like I’m going nuts watching them make the same mistakes! Anyway congratulations to the Boks!
@@Mark777h Thank you. No I believe you. You guys have been kind in defeat. I am surprised by the reaction.
Justin Marshall was the only honest one on Sky Sport. But he has been dropped, can you believe it? They only want yes men. He was dropped I believe because he said. “Some all blacks shouldn’t be there” (in response to a series of defeats In 2021-22)
The All Blacks team need a serious look at themselves. About the springboks, I believe rugby has just evolved with this hyper physical, 7-1 split! The game will be forever different.
The Springboks I believe are the number one team in the world. Physical, smart, believe in themselves. So a big congrats is deserved.
The Sky Sport panel. Needs to apologise to Rassie/Nienebar and the SA fan base. I apologise on behalf of them.
@@Mark777h Thanks Mark. I must say, is 777 for the aircraft? Good luck to you as well. I am the same, a team I feared most. We have a high amount of respect here in New Zealand for South Africa. And know you guys are like us, love rugby, steak/BBQ/BRAAI and having a good time. Only you are about 2* as big as us for some reason lol 😂
Brenden- you are the best rugby journalist bar none. Thanks for all the hard work, really appreciated
We have got them all so rattled, the Rassie plan once again working to perfection
Kiwi hard... We lost because of basic mistakes and too much pressure .. full stop. It makes things interesting that SA has come up with their joker card, but if you play your cards right you can still win regarless of the joker. When you focus on one area of play, other areas become weaker. Its up to every other team to find a solution.. This is why rugby is so great... its like playing chess.. expose the weak points and attack.
Has a lifelong Wales supporter, I applaud South Africa and their coach, they played to their strengths, and they didn't do anything wrong, If they were prepared to split the bench that's a perfectly legal call.
Couldn't have said it beter myself Brenden. Great commentary
Was so refreshing seeing the All Blacks pinged for cynical play and actually punished for all those professional fouls they commit game after game to rather give away a potential 3 pts instead of conceding try.
And was especially nice to see Kolisi be ruthless this time, and push the button, not relenting, but I guess, that was only really possible thanks to ref doing his job, good on Kolisi being aware, and seeing the opportunity.
I hope this trend of All Blacks being pinged for cynical play is a permanent change, its about time.
mate did you not watch the game they was also 2 boks forwards should have been red carded for the clean outs at rucks so why blame barret when the ref was one sided?
@@robertmcdougall3520whatever you have to tell yourself lol
mate its what everyone here in nz are saying@@marantz1
@@robertmcdougall3520 where in the world were there two boks who deserved 2 red cards for cleanouts? the ones they showed on the show with Jeff Wilson? That is probably where your opinion above comes from. Those cleans were good, and they were on players who were on the ball. Perfectly LEGAL. Stop listening to stupid pundits and look at the footage without biased commentary designed to change your opinion. Think for yourself and come to your own conclusions. We are not sheep unless you want to be
dud i can make up my own mind and i have seen enough to say that head on head contact is a red card and believe it or not, im not a idiot like some other people out there@@renewablefuelsanalyst8263
Hah I love the term 'nuke squad' it's a perfect way to describe it. It felt like a real evolution of the bomb squad.
A few yrs ago in the 6N, Italy exploited a loophole (to great effect) in a game against England. English players were complaining to Romain Poite but he simply told them Italy weren't breaking the law and it was not his place to tell Eng how to defend against it.
Within a short period of time, IRB/World Rugby legislated against the loophole and closed it.
I guess it all depends on who complains and who can benefit from it.
Bok rugby keeps the game honest, always has. 🏴 fan, we have SAs playing for us because the eligibility rules allow it.
We are going chuck the ball about and you are going to try and stop us - that's the game.
I can't believe some the NZ pundits either. They were caught cold - simple.
They made a lot about props like lomax and de groot. They were made to look like meat puppets on friday. The replacement props that came on for the NZ a lot of crowing was done for them. They too were made to look like children. I am glad that the bokke won in the way they did. But this doesnt mean we have won the world cup. 2 more months to find out. It is showing how NZ is missing the physicality of SA teams in the super rugby. And one thing SA rugby has learned. Albeit doing my head in sometimes, was to have two first teams and constantly rotate the players. This i now see as a way to bleed in newer players. Also, with the URC and the Heinekin cup, i think SA is accustomed to how northern hemisphere refs are blowing. You dont get that exposure with super rugby.
And SA's lack of presence in NZ is telling. You sharpen iron with iron...
Not only do SA have exposure to NH refs (and remember how we battled in early days of the URC?) but perhaps more pertinently NZ do not. Super Rugby is reffed by NZ and Aus referees only, there is way too much leeway given the players and what all of us tend to forget is that a red card in SR is only a 20 minute binning followed by replacement. So yeah, domestically, they are not getting hammered by big physical forward packs and even when they are, they can give away the three points and reset. By not taking the three, we forced them to infringe repeatedly and the rest is history.
It's almost as though they did not expect a forward battle from a Springbok team with 15 forwards on the team sheet.....
Uhmm tamatai williams and newell are children
A lot of our Boks don't play in the NH though.
@@wot4922basically all the forwards do actually so does most of the backline aswell
Ex pat kiwi here. Enjoying yr pod.
Some in NZ media often don't realize how embarrassing they are, like a spoilt child who can't get their own way, spits the dummy & can't admit the truth tht the idolized ABs are not always the best...
I LOVED the game!! It reinforced the fact the SA team is smarter coached & has an inspirational on field leader. Thought it was excellent getting tries by using NZs strength (maul defense) against them by leaving Marx free for an easy run in etc.
Jeff Wilson was a tremendous player but he's increasingly a hard watch on tv...I guess the bottom line is, he's employed, I think, in part by the system he's ardently defending.
I love rugby more than a particular team.
I really hope we get a new champ this year like Ireland or France, even the Scots have a shot!
If NZ or SA win, it'll be the last 5 RWCs won by just the 2 same teams!! Not a spectacle for everyone else over time imo.
The Springboks deserve the chance to defend their title. They don't exactly have the easiest road, so if they win, they deserve it.. Formula 1 is still going strong after Michael Schumacher, tennis after Bjorn Borg etc. If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best. Why didn't you raise your concerns in 2011 or 2015?
BOK supporter hoping my 2nd team France will win. it is long overdue for them being runner up 3 times and will be good for the tournament. Boks vs France final I am hoping
Pinning my hopes on a SA-Ireland final, as much as I'd like the Boks to win,fully agree a French (as hosts) orIreland win would be spectacular given their current form.
oh get real dude , tennis and f1 are stronger than ever despite the domination of a select few. The challenge in sport is trying to beat the best, thats what brings in the crowds
Matt Williams' take is pretty hilarious. are you kidding?! 🤣
Good video Brendon. The All Blacks are very lucky the match officials did not pick up on the obstruction they are doing with the Lineouts. The ball is in the air, (towards the Locks for catching the ball)they already bind with our players, to prevent the Boks a quality maul. Jeff Wilson only showed the 1 angle of Barret on Malcom. Sour Grapes
ABs collapsing the scrum many times was also ignored.
With Kwagga Smith, he played loads of sevens rugby, he can play anywhere in the backline at a high level if required. Just a great rugby footballer with a habit of scoring tries against the ABs. 🤠
Play these videos on loop in the locker rooms Jacques and Rassie😊
Mr Williams will always have a negative comment about SA. Just sad that nobody acknowledge how SA took NZ apart.
Mr. You're being so respectful to someone who has no respect for us. Matt Williams will do.
Nobody,,?? Bs plenty acknowledged the win.
Are you kidding initial kiwi comments did acknowledge South Africa's win against the All Blacks but some South Africans got carried away telling us how dominant they are over the All Blacks 1-1 this year 1-1 last year and the further back we go that South African dominance isn't so prominent. We were disappointed losing but South Africans want more than our disappointment they want to tell us we have no chance of winning, and South Africa are going to win the RWC. That's why kiwis started getting pissed off with their South Africans counterparts. New Zealanders win or lose get over it quicker than South Africans do. Nobody needed to Acknowledge South Africa's win. South African acknowledged themselves taking the All Blacks apart been hearing it for days now,
"WE LOST" for the hundredth time and forget that 2 win 17 losses Coach Matt Williams, I say the Majority don't share his views and we in New Zealand don't either.
@@richardmatatahi4563bullshit artist grow up never heard so much shite in my life most u guys expect to win every game and think u all own rugby it’s all over the blogs tv UA-cam most u AB,fans r bad losers ,most Saffers lives don’t depend on it because they have many other interests what gets on our nerves is many of u guys are bad losers ! I have had a bit of time off and read a fair few post and from what I have acknowledged it’s a lot of kiwi fans mouthing off that it’s only a friendly and 14 against 15 , the ref was shite Boks cheated……………more so than the few Bok fans bloating ! Many of your fellow countryman have acknowledged that on this blog and else where ?😅
Even 8-0 split will be amazing. Sour grapes and if the AB did the same , it would be transformational . Go Bokke !!!!! The bomb squad became a herd of elephants 😅
Spot on Brenden. Going 7-1 is not even a loophole. It's very simply just within the law. The only difference is that other teams haven't done it due to the risk factor. The risk is worth taking with a 6-2 for the Boks due to the forwards being so bladdy awesome and the 2 backs being so versatile, but I think to use 7-1 regularly would probably be too risky. It was deemed feasible due to Willie's niggle as you said, Brenden. Matt Williams clearly has had an agenda for years, and isn't worth listening to really. Jeff also was way out of line on this occasion, like the time he suggested Ardie should be an impact player.
South Africa is leading the innovation the other countries need to come up with counter plays . first it was South Africa Kicking now every country is kicking more than South Africa now south Africa mole better now . All Blacks are now complaining the game is to long with TMO now the banker
😅😅😅 if you say so
Since Rassie's Cheetah day's he rattled the cradel.
Kiwi here. The Boks were awesome. Most pundits here are NOT singing from the Jeff Wilson songbook. The AB's were pretty awful. The Boks absolutely deserved their win and were the better team by a huge margin. They'll be v hard to beat at World Cup.
It's any teams prerogative to pick anybody in any position they want, if we want to pick Faf at lock, if we want 8 props on the bench, it has nothing to do with anyone except the risk we take...
Brendan haven't you learned..NZ will always have an excuse..remember after the Irish series win..Jeez they are worst than we are
ABs will be back, but the Boks, Ire on tour, Fra in Paris and Eng in 19, showed how to beat the ABs. This is pure sour grapes. I watched some of the NZ player interviews after the test and Savea/ Coles were humble, acknowledged they wilted under the pressure, complimented the boks and said they had a tough few weeks coming up. The NZ pundits should have done the same, instead of being in denial.
Am a Kiwi, the coach can select whatever numbers they want on the bench. As Brin Hall says Kwagga Smith can play any back position including half back. It is a risk reward decision. Well done to SA. The are the favorites in my opinion. Should be a great WC.
The fear is massive for the SA forwards.... the teams are not sure what to expect next from the Springboks.
I suspect the problem stems from the fact that the South African team is from Africa, and not of a "traditional English" origin (France and Italy were old Empires so "tolerated" and part of the EU etc. so shared identity) - look at how Georgia, Argentina, Japan and even the Tier 2 nations are treated by the "old boy's club"
Nonsense
@@randomuruk723040 percent of SA whites are of 'English' origin.
Nonsense
Exactly that
Utter rubbish...I'm a South African and a bok supporter. You are really off point. I suppose you see things through the lens of your worldview
They are cry babies. Ridicules. Thank for your pod cast. My views are exactly the same as yours. Enjoyed the break down show until now.
The extra fwds on the bench helps more for keeping minutes down and players fit for the RWC. It definitely does not increase risk of injury for the opposition.
The Boks may not plan to do this again, but they should certainly reserve the right to do so.
Fantastic tactical decision by SA to go for a 7 - 1 split like that. It has achieved what they wanted. Fear. Now everybody is afraid of them or at the very least, talking about them. And now, international coaches everywhere have this extra unwanted distraction going into the World Cup. Congrats guys👏 well done. Looking forward to meeting you in the Pool games 👍 🇮🇪 ☘️ 🏉
You are 100% correct ...
Spies had the 100 meter record at his high school and played as a loosie . He was one of the fastest sprinnboks on the pitch
I agree with you! The Boks were amazing, how the hell can there be complaints about how a team structures its bench - insane.
We should try an 8-0 bench 😂 ... 🧠=💥
Just need to understand and from the age of 5 been following and playing rugby. In my 53 years of following this game and especially the last 25 years of professional rugby, i have never seen a law that states you have to have certain amount of positions in your team whith the exception of the front row... So if you want to play 17 flankers and 6 front rows in your team, its your choice. Its crazy to think to change the law, so do u only need to have 2 locks in ur team or can you have 5 locks that can cover multiple positions. It paid off for the Boks on Friday, it could have gone the wrong way... Sour grape from certain people. Well done for the Bok coaching team.
The AB lost because they were not on form. They were outplayed from the word go. Even before the beach came on.
I wouldn't say they were not on form, I think they were shell shocked and simply couldn't regroup as the constant pressure is something new to them. But my guess is it won't happen again should we again meet them in the QF's. It will be a different kettle of fish.
@@andrevogel1974 Come on mate. I've never seen NZ play like that in my life, and my old man said the same thing and he's been around a lot longer than me. The amount of knock-ons, interceptions, and lost lineouts was unbelievable.
Yes, some was from pressure, but ultimately they hadn't had several warm-up games to get into a groove like SA had. Would they have won if they'd played as well as SA? Probably not. They don't have the power up-front.
@@andrevogel1974if they were on form, they wouldve won
@@TrezenENif they won lineouts and the handling and passing was their normal standard then they wouldve won.
Great presentation - thank you! Change nothing and keep coming!
AB's got bashed. Simple, the tough smart side won. An AB supporter here. Well done Bokkie. I hope you win the RWC. An emphatic statement.
Great review Brenden ! SA were awesome this weekend ... the Breakdown was very biased and ignoring the gaps upfront been NZ and SA ... worse they blamed the ref ! who showed a lot of patience in the first 20min .. could have yellowed a few more. I would like to see 3 subs max however SA looking massive ... Well down from Wales !
O please..
This is the first time that I’ve heard that it’s been an issue. As Nienaber said it’s risky for the team doing that. It is not a “loophole”.
The biggest change in the boks’s play the past 12 months for those who may have taken a break from watching Rugby, was nurturing out wide back line play. To try to read something sinister into this once off 7-1 while they had every incentive to balance game exposure and protect injuries before RWC kick off is frankly ridicilous.
It's the same as when the driving maul came a major part of our game . Every one wanted to change the rules. We are innovators in the game .
Jeff Wilson we left at least 20 points on the field we have much more to show. I am shocked at your reaction to the great Bok victory
As a Kiwi. Well done on a great victory. Let's see how the cup goes now. I would say you have a good chance of back to back cup wins.