I take a sick pleasure in repairing cast aluminum. The parts are often not replaceable and it's up to you to save the day. Even if the weld itself tries your skills it's rewarding to see the smile on the customer's face
Very good video Bob, I like when you show "actual" jobs instead of welding coupons which only shows "part" of the job. You need to see REAL problems and how to deal with them and get a good outcome. Well done.
You are not just a welder, you are an artist!. Great control over the flow and feed rate. I was impressed by your work. Now I want one of those welders.
Another useful video. Good advice on use and handling of the burr. I have cut a lot of aluminum over the years and have found that putting wax on cutting tools - burrs, band saw blades, hack saws - keeps them from loading up and provides better performance. I use bee's wax, but any paraffin wax will do.
5:30 .....an ode to Kanekid!!! I love it!! I want to thank you for these great videos!! I hope one day I get to shake you, Jodi, jesse james and Ian's hand!! Ya'll have been a huge inspiration to me and my career!!!
Hahah years ago I had a dream where I was walking through the woods and came across a group of old junkies who had just taken a bunch of poppy plants from a field and were cooking it up in a massive spoon like this. And they are using syringes the size of a turkey baster. So weird I still remember every second of it.
That was a great segment. It was very educational, as I have a compressor that dropped off my truck and busted a motor bracing. I am looking for excuse to score me a general type welder, and this added to my list of reasons. Making that wedge was new to me, as well as the way he just allowed the aluminum to melt into the wedge, and of course many other things. Thanks and keep up the good work!
Funny,! but most of all I appreciate you waiting for approval from the feedback from your customer. Sometimes that patience saves a lot of re-work. Absolutely fantastic hall pass!!!!
@@scottb8175 wow that is a crazy coincidence! Those are just my initials and a mirror image of my initials, that's seriously all that that name means, that's really really interesting!
Great vid. Question have you ever used aluminum electric cable strands for filler rods? Me being a cheapo I tried using it ( alum electric cable ) tig welding aluminum on some yard art and it seemed to work.
Hi Bob. That was fantastic. So many things could have gone wrong but in the hands of an old school artisan like yourself there was only one way this was gonna turn out. Thank you very much!!
man this job brings me back to my last employment,,with Al i keep a 99% balance,it needs very little to work AC like that and does a great job penetrating once you find the right freq etc ,used to get bubbling when patching leaks on a hydro test around the diesel tank seal but once i discovered this trick no more bubbles and full penetration seal
I wonder if it was cast in 2 parts and welded together at the factory. would explain why it welds so nicely, and such a system makes a lot of sense for low volume production
I do so much cast aluminum welds and not once have i had the luck to get that clean a base metal. Mine are so full of crap, porous and soaked in oil i dread it every time. Just yesterday, i had to weld a leaking portion of an injection die, should have been massive 6" thick casting and there was a massive web of cavities filled with crap not even 1/2" under the surface. Spent the better part of eight hours to clean it up and get the working end of that shit back to the original profile. Anyway, thanks for the demo. As always good ripple pattern and pretty interesting chain.
I started welding alum. with a torch back in the 60's.... We had an "OLD" school welding instructor that could torch weld Alum. Foil. Now the one thing you didn't do is wash it down with acetone first, Then you wire brush the shit out of it, THEN wash it down again. Let's face it: "YOU GOT LUCKY"
That's great In high school, my welding teacher had a key to a faculty restroom which was next door to the shop. Instead of us having to walk all the way down to the main restroom, he would giv us the key. To be sure that nobody ran off with the key, it was attached to a small section of 6 inch aluminum pipe with a chain.
If the material started as ingot, it is most likely 356 or A356. The material will usually be better to weld on the "bottom" (casting orientation) because dirt floats. It's also best to grind out any porosity in the weld area . Then stress relieve, quench, and straighten within 4 hours, followed by aging. The material will age at room temp but may take months to get to full strength.
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Can you explain welding on the bottom/casting orientation and its relation to floating dirt? I know that when heated dirt floats on the surface but i didnt understand what you meant
That's the last thing I expected to see! 🥄 Always funny looking 🤔 to see aluminum become so saturated by heat that it says, *"Enough!"* In the split second it glazes over with that dull finish and just before it falls through the part... I want that spoon for chili and ice cream with cake! Too darn cold and too soon!
How about a 1"x 1- 1/4" strip skip welded or screwed on back side for additional support with a nice blending of the weld on the front? Gives both support and esthetics .
I can't believe leaving the repair "visible" was even a consideration. That gap on the tacked side while the other side was still tight indicated the angle would never be the same again. I would've been tempted to drill a hole in the middle of both sides to add a rod to stiffen it prior to repair. The deep and wide burr grinding seemed a bit much so I wonder if just filing a bevel prior to joining would've sufficed.
Hi I have a frame of a P228 pistol that’s made of n I quote “hard anodized aluminum alloy” the frame slides that groove out to slide on the top slide has worn in many parts. My question is can the be welded where the groove is missing n built up n then carefully filed down to blend in with the parts of the groove that’s still there. Basically building up what is missing. Thanks in advance.
You're right! Bodine it was. I remember one episode where Granny had the big pot that she described as a ladle and a ginormous pot that was the actual cooking pot for Jethro's grits. Lady (Mrs. Hathaway?) visitor to Granny's kitchen: "Is THAT the pot?" Granny: "Nope; that's the ladle; THIS HERE's the pot!" (drags out a big cauldron)...
Hello Bob Could you please do a film on Lincoln STT and give an evaluation on weather you would consider it a onsite option on small pipe or just a workshop process. Thanks
Great video. I have a cast aluminum handle to repair on a very rare lathe. A Holbrook H20. Break very similar to your giant spoon. Considering the lathe weighs about 5000kg or over 10000lbs why are some of the handles aluminium? Bit late to think of weight saving when ypu are over 5 tons 😂
8:20 Ugh, God I’m at the dentist getting a cavity filled 😖😖...made my spine tingle. Nice job on the cast aluminum repair. Definitely learned something useful.
Next time preheat the area before start welding or tacking, it will fuse better without using a lot of amperage, and don't forget to clean your welding rod with acetone, will help remove oxidation.
I have problems with parasites when I do cast al and I have a problem with chasing it and just getting ugly with more parasites, specially on the toe. I try to hold off and burn it out, but I just kind of have to stop. I seen none of that happening on this. is this just the type of aluminum that causes the porosity to come to the surface or what?
Hello SpongeBob, I am kind of new to welding and I started out tig welding on Thin Metal Because I thought if I could weld thin metal without burning through I could weld anything. Now I am thinking it is time to just get the mechanics down first. So what metal do you think would be best for slow moving and learning muscle memory? I was thinking of trying some aluminum welding
That was a nice video! I worked with cast aluminum and sometimes it is just trash, like a mixture of 1011 4043 6011 or whatever with porosity and incursions. I have some recommendations. Clean it as the second time but before welding do a cleaning pass and leave it. Don't clean it. That will help to keep the arc on and good when you use filler rod. If you clean it you will have again the same problem. Sometimes is best to place a point with filler rod no matter if it's ugly and use it to start from there that help because the filler rod is clean and will keep the arc on. When it is trash is difficult to make the puddle so that will help. Don't over heat the aluminum or the weld will go down as the final part of the video. Let it cool down a bit and then restart welding. Keep going with greats videos!
I take a sick pleasure in repairing cast aluminum. The parts are often not replaceable and it's up to you to save the day. Even if the weld itself tries your skills it's rewarding to see the smile on the customer's face
Indeed
:D
Yall some straight up heros 🙌
I wish someone helps me I’m depressed
Very good video Bob, I like when you show "actual" jobs instead of welding coupons which only shows "part" of the job. You need to see REAL problems and how to deal with them and get a good outcome. Well done.
You got lucky with that aluminum casting being of a better quality than most. I’ve had some nightmares in my day. Looks nice 👍
nice video of the arc, especially the junk floating around in the pool. nice work cameraguy!
Ha, he smelled the carbide, my father used to do that when he was teaching me the ropes.. Old school, love it.. Thanks for sharing Bob. !
Cannot get over the, "*sniff* yep, that's carbide burr..." part.
lol
I welded a cast piece not to long ago (engine oil filter bracket). Was dreading it, ended up welding real nice and clean! Was a nice surprise.
Artisan craftsman doing great work as usual. Thanks Bob.
Bob is the definition of cool.
Thanks for "spooning" all that knowledge.
Mark Tracy if you'd have said "spoon feeding" all that knowledge, 10x better. Lol
Get off the internet dad.
You are not just a welder, you are an artist!. Great control over the flow and feed rate. I was impressed by your work. Now I want one of those welders.
nice to have the customer show up
Another useful video. Good advice on use and handling of the burr. I have cut a lot of aluminum over the years and have found that putting wax on cutting tools - burrs, band saw blades, hack saws - keeps them from loading up and provides better performance. I use bee's wax, but any paraffin wax will do.
Good point.
Man I thought I was a crappy welder but apparently this stuff is tough to weld love your videos you and Jody are the kings
Ain't never done TIG but it's on the bucket list good video on this thumbs up.
Very educational I may be welding cast aluminum in the nest day or two so I’m trying to learn as much as I can before I even touch it, thanks bob!
Really nice camera work. I don't know if I've ever seen a better video of a weld in progress.
Camera work is amazing. You can see the puddle and arc very clearly. Thanks for sharing.
I'd expect nothing less from bob, just welding a gigantic spoon, why is this so funny!?!?!
5:30 .....an ode to Kanekid!!! I love it!! I want to thank you for these great videos!! I hope one day I get to shake you, Jodi, jesse james and Ian's hand!! Ya'll have been a huge inspiration to me and my career!!!
I bet some junkies would love that spoon.
Spoons suck.
GGG, the junkies were fighting over it , that's how it got broken.
Hahah years ago I had a dream where I was walking through the woods and came across a group of old junkies who had just taken a bunch of poppy plants from a field and were cooking it up in a massive spoon like this. And they are using syringes the size of a turkey baster. So weird I still remember every second of it.
Thats gold
😂😂😂😂😂
Skip the “premiere”. All else is just geat. And thank you for your time and efort to educate the world.
I love how you spoon feed us all this great info... :)
That was a great segment. It was very educational, as I have a compressor that dropped off my truck and busted a motor bracing. I am looking for excuse to score me a general type welder, and this added to my list of reasons. Making that wedge was new to me, as well as the way he just allowed the aluminum to melt into the wedge, and of course many other things. Thanks and keep up the good work!
Funny,! but most of all I appreciate you waiting for approval from the feedback from your customer. Sometimes that patience saves a lot of re-work. Absolutely fantastic hall pass!!!!
Uncle Bob ! everyones favorite welding coach.
As always, another great instructional video Mr. Moffatt. Thank you
Every time I watch a video from you guys it makes me want to go weld (and usually end up doing so, haha) Keep up the great content!!
Just a guess what welder would go by DME EMD, what that stands for: Dakota and Minnesota Eastern Electro-Motive Division? Just a guess....
@@scottb8175 wow that is a crazy coincidence! Those are just my initials and a mirror image of my initials, that's seriously all that that name means, that's really really interesting!
Great vid. Question have you ever used aluminum electric cable strands for filler rods? Me being a cheapo I tried using it ( alum electric cable ) tig welding aluminum on some yard art and it seemed to work.
Great video, not many people try welding cast. Great work
Hi Bob. That was fantastic. So many things could have gone wrong but in the hands of an old school artisan like yourself there was only one way this was gonna turn out. Thank you very much!!
Very nice detail on the camera shot of the actual weld and penetration. Greatly appreciate that! And well done on the weld.
Guess I am a little too old to attend one of your classes but I DO enjoy watching your skill set. Thanks Much.
man this job brings me back to my last employment,,with Al i keep a 99% balance,it needs very little to work AC like that and does a great job penetrating once you find the right freq etc ,used to get bubbling when patching leaks on a hydro test around the diesel tank seal but once i discovered this trick no more bubbles and full penetration seal
I wonder if it was cast in 2 parts and welded together at the factory. would explain why it welds so nicely, and such a system makes a lot of sense for low volume production
I do so much cast aluminum welds and not once have i had the luck to get that clean a base metal. Mine are so full of crap, porous and soaked in oil i dread it every time.
Just yesterday, i had to weld a leaking portion of an injection die, should have been massive 6" thick casting and there was a massive web of cavities filled with crap not even 1/2" under the surface. Spent the better part of eight hours to clean it up and get the working end of that shit back to the original profile.
Anyway, thanks for the demo. As always good ripple pattern and pretty interesting chain.
Smell the carbide bit lol. Good vid on cast alum. Didn't look like much pepper or trash in base metal.
I started welding alum. with a torch back in the 60's.... We had an "OLD" school welding instructor that could torch weld Alum. Foil. Now the one thing you didn't do is wash it down with acetone first, Then you wire brush the shit out of it, THEN wash it down again. Let's face it: "YOU GOT LUCKY"
Good video, but one heck of a hall pass!! That's one big baby! Great job Bob!
Man its good to see the right tools do a good job
That's great In high school, my welding teacher had a key to a faculty restroom which was next door to the shop. Instead of us having to walk all the way down to the main restroom, he would giv us the key. To be sure that nobody ran off with the key, it was attached to a small section of 6 inch aluminum pipe with a chain.
HOW MUCH THE FECES BUILD UP ON THAT GIMMICK OVER THE YEARS BUBBA
Never really thought about it....until now....
Luck be a ladle, tonight!
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You could add a solid triangular wedge along the underside from the spoon about 14" up the handle for strength.
When you tacked that you could see the impurities in the cast, I love tig welding aluminum but aluminum holds so much trash and oxidation
Hey dawg, can I get some ice cream? Only a spoonful!
I guess no one is going to forge that hall pass! Good video -- Makes me want to go find some scrap cast and try my hand at it.
One of my favourite aluminum welding videos 😊
Great Job
that's not a high production cheap casting. I always find that a custom order specialty type casting that was a decent alloy for welding.
If the material started as ingot, it is most likely 356 or A356. The material will usually be better to weld on the "bottom" (casting orientation) because dirt floats. It's also best to grind out any porosity in the weld area . Then stress relieve, quench, and straighten within 4 hours, followed by aging. The material will age at room temp but may take months to get to full strength.
Can you explain welding on the bottom/casting orientation and its relation to floating dirt? I know that when heated dirt floats on the surface but i didnt understand what you meant
Beautiful work!
This video has some awesome weld footage. Very good detail. Thanks.
Few Questions,
1. What was the frequency?
2. Max amps was 200?
3. Which torch did you use?
4. what filler?
Frequency 80
Amps 200
40% cleaning
Filler 4043
Thanks Professor.. It sort of sounded lower than 60hz but I can be tone def.. Was the torch water cooled? As always enjoy your stuff.
@@maxheadflow Air cooled 17 series.
Very wise to use non cross cut die grinder burrs! They're better than people think!
That's the last thing I expected to see! 🥄 Always funny looking 🤔 to see aluminum become so saturated by heat that it says, *"Enough!"* In the split second it glazes over with that dull finish and just before it falls through the part...
I want that spoon for chili and ice cream with cake! Too darn cold and too soon!
I would be very interested to know if the spoon is still in service at the school !!
How about a 1"x 1- 1/4" strip skip welded or screwed on back side for additional support with a nice blending of the weld on the front? Gives both support and esthetics .
My comment was ment to say a 1"wide x 1/4" or better yet 1/8" thick strip of aluminum on back side for additional support.
I can't believe leaving the repair "visible" was even a consideration. That gap on the tacked side while the other side was still tight indicated the angle would never be the same again. I would've been tempted to drill a hole in the middle of both sides to add a rod to stiffen it prior to repair. The deep and wide burr grinding seemed a bit much so I wonder if just filing a bevel prior to joining would've sufficed.
A quick question, how we identify no need for Preheat / PWHT for this Al Cast as they are susceptible to initiate cracks???...
Thanks and good job...
I know some people with a mouth so big they could use that spoon! Amazing talent you have sir! Wish I could do that!
I know some too. And their egos are bigger than their mouth. So fake.....
Hi I have a frame of a P228 pistol that’s made of n I quote “hard anodized aluminum alloy” the frame slides that groove out to slide on the top slide has worn in many parts. My question is can the be welded where the groove is missing n built up n then carefully filed down to blend in with the parts of the groove that’s still there. Basically building up what is missing. Thanks in advance.
Hola Bob, la maquina que usaste es la 250EX ?
Nice! So any steel messes up aluminum welding right? Carbide burr never used for steel or ? Thanks
There are different burr configurations for various alloys.
That sounds like a dentist at work... I will a new gas to keep watching. Nice job, sweet spoon.
i would have suggested you make a feature out of the weld like a ribbon band and explain it would be better for strength
Welcome back bob been asking about you!
Perfect job for muggy weld!
Spoon originally belonged to Jethro Clampett of Beverly Hills, CA
Jethro Bodine. He lived with his Uncle, Jed Clampett.
You're right! Bodine it was. I remember one episode where Granny had the big pot that she described as a ladle and a ginormous pot that was the actual cooking pot for Jethro's grits. Lady (Mrs. Hathaway?) visitor to Granny's kitchen: "Is THAT the pot?" Granny: "Nope; that's the ladle; THIS HERE's the pot!" (drags out a big cauldron)...
More like Keith Richards
Hello Bob Could you please do a film on Lincoln STT and give an evaluation on weather you would consider it a onsite option on small pipe or just a workshop process. Thanks
Great video. I have a cast aluminum handle to repair on a very rare lathe. A Holbrook H20. Break very similar to your giant spoon. Considering the lathe weighs about 5000kg or over 10000lbs why are some of the handles aluminium? Bit late to think of weight saving when ypu are over 5 tons 😂
High School....you just know that'll take a beating...
It looks identical to the prop that the Lovin' Spoonful used to suspend behind the band when playing concerts and TV shows.
i like the die grinder, what kind of die grinder is that?
hello are there any welding rods to run for aluminium .. that run like normal welding rods
THAT WAS NICE AND CLEAN ..JOB . (HOW MUCH DID U CHARGE ?
8:20 Ugh, God I’m at the dentist getting a cavity filled 😖😖...made my spine tingle. Nice job on the cast aluminum repair. Definitely learned something useful.
That intro sounds like we're about to receive a welding lesson from Bruce (the Family Guy character). I would like that.
I wouldn't want to upset the fellow that uses that spoon !
Thankyou sir... even though you forget a lot of things 🤭🤭 you are
A great teacher...👍👍👍
Any way yo make this repair without welding? Is there an adhesive that would hold aluminum cast?
Thanks Bob
Holy **** what are the odds that this tutorial has the exact everlast tig machine I have awesome!
Hay I am baffled I need a weld done can u do it
My name is Billy shelly is a frend
Next time preheat the area before start welding or tacking, it will fuse better without using a lot of amperage, and don't forget to clean your welding rod with acetone, will help remove oxidation.
Thanks for an interesting video, with regard from Russia
Always enjoy your videos, always, I hope they invited you to dinner as recompense...
I have problems with parasites when I do cast al and I have a problem with chasing it and just getting ugly with more parasites, specially on the toe. I try to hold off and burn it out, but I just kind of have to stop. I seen none of that happening on this. is this just the type of aluminum that causes the porosity to come to the surface or what?
What’s a good process if you don’t have a welder will brazing work and if so what type the part is off a Honda big red
Thanks for the helpful video and info great video you the man bob
Hello SpongeBob,
I am kind of new to welding and I started out tig welding on Thin Metal Because I thought if I could weld thin metal without burning through I could weld anything. Now I am thinking it is time to just get the mechanics down first. So what metal do you think would be best for slow moving and learning muscle memory? I was thinking of trying some aluminum welding
How do you know when you need to preheat the material?
Bob, with 2 of those you could play bass in the "spoon band". Hehe
It’s like watching the Bob Ross of welding.
That was a nice video! I worked with cast aluminum and sometimes it is just trash, like a mixture of 1011 4043 6011 or whatever with porosity and incursions.
I have some recommendations.
Clean it as the second time but before welding do a cleaning pass and leave it. Don't clean it. That will help to keep the arc on and good when you use filler rod. If you clean it you will have again the same problem.
Sometimes is best to place a point with filler rod no matter if it's ugly and use it to start from there that help because the filler rod is clean and will keep the arc on. When it is trash is difficult to make the puddle so that will help.
Don't over heat the aluminum or the weld will go down as the final part of the video. Let it cool down a bit and then restart welding.
Keep going with greats videos!
Very good camera work , gave me a better idea how the filler works if that makes any sense. :)
When is the rounded tungsten preferred to the sharp?
Now I don't feel so bad about the results I get on welding cast aluminum. I thought y'all'd make it look easy.
Great video. I've got some cast aluminum I want to repair with my Everlast welder.
Well well, I now know how to fix my spoon when I break it. It was always in the back of my mind 🤣 Great video thank you Mr Bob! 👍👍
What wire did you use? 4043?
Great video, thank you!