Analysis: How the Hadouken Reinvented 2D Fighting

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  • @LuckyHamburger
    @LuckyHamburger 7 років тому +2547

    How to beat daigo:
    "Being good is a real strength of yours."

    • @Exorcist_ali248
      @Exorcist_ali248 5 років тому +205

      Holy shit you've won EVO

    • @NinthSettler
      @NinthSettler 4 роки тому +56

      You'd still eat 20 umeshoryus and lose, that's how Daigo rolls

    • @Mascabar
      @Mascabar 4 роки тому +147

      @@NinthSettler "Being not terrible is a real strength of yours.", I have optimised the Daigo meta

    • @321Tdog
      @321Tdog 4 роки тому +76

      "Hey Daigo you're really good at plugging in your controller"

    • @velocityraptor2890
      @velocityraptor2890 4 роки тому +38

      no no no, if you REALLY want to win, you say "your greatest strength is your unpredicatbility" like, how do you deal with that?

  • @Krystalmyth
    @Krystalmyth 7 років тому +1544

    "I can see why some people would call it spam."
    *Highlights High Sodium Levels*
    I love you.

    • @RanOutOfSpac
      @RanOutOfSpac 4 роки тому +8

      I can’t believe I didn’t catch that omg.

    • @yaeven4943
      @yaeven4943 4 роки тому +12

      @@Azu_Crystal Yes, we got the joke. Thanks.

  • @bigdrippy4104
    @bigdrippy4104 6 років тому +1420

    I love how Harada talks about the fireball when most of the games hes made have had no projectiles til recently

    • @UmbrellaSound
      @UmbrellaSound 4 роки тому +91

      One can argue that Devil Jin laser is sort of projectile. And it was there since Tekken 3

    • @liamsemicolon
      @liamsemicolon 4 роки тому +154

      @@UmbrellaSound actually, the laser has been there there since tekken 2, where it was used by devil and angel

    • @UmbrellaSound
      @UmbrellaSound 4 роки тому +35

      @@liamsemicolon thanks for correction mate.

    • @liamsemicolon
      @liamsemicolon 4 роки тому +27

      @@UmbrellaSound noprobs dude

    • @Jerry_SSBB
      @Jerry_SSBB 4 роки тому +20

      Jinpachi in Tekken Tag 2 can shoot fireballs.

  • @ishgardiandad8250
    @ishgardiandad8250 5 років тому +1164

    My favorite projectile character is definitely Adon. Now, you may be saying "Adon doesnt have any". Youre wrong his voice is so annoying it's basically a fireball hitting me irl.

    • @Freefork
      @Freefork 5 років тому +118

      Muting the game is my counterpick.

    • @Flyingboy25
      @Flyingboy25 4 роки тому +28

      AAAHHH JAGUAR KICK!

    • @misterrandom3544
      @misterrandom3544 4 роки тому +6

      @@Freefork that way you dont have to block

    • @Freefork
      @Freefork 4 роки тому +6

      @@misterrandom3544 I still have to block the entire match... my ears are still exposed when the audience starts shouting for Adon.

    • @misterrandom3544
      @misterrandom3544 4 роки тому +6

      @@Freefork I WILL SEE THEM WURSHIP ME AS A GAWD!! Lol

  • @afrikasmith1049
    @afrikasmith1049 8 років тому +1370

    I like Cody's projectile. Alot of his opponents are using chi/ki to use as a projectile. But Cody throws rocks..... It sounds stupid compared to a fireball, but its so practical that it makes him a true Street Fighter.

  • @ClefPiano
    @ClefPiano 5 років тому +152

    I added Spanish subtitles since December, please C-AG, enable them!
    I want to help some guys in my community who don't speak english.

  • @iamfiefo
    @iamfiefo 8 років тому +913

    Blanka has the best "fireball" game. Because he _is_ the fireball!

    • @Toomnyusernae
      @Toomnyusernae 8 років тому +8

      Shout of Earth baby. Not a true fireball but it has the reach and gives the best fuzzy feeling for chipping to death.

    • @TheManTheMythD
      @TheManTheMythD 8 років тому +31

      Confirmed: Captain Falcon is a Blanka clone.

    • @jaggedsigns3O11
      @jaggedsigns3O11 7 років тому +30

      Lmao one must not only think like a fireball but become the fireball xD

    • @falleneldor
      @falleneldor 7 років тому +8

      Chau Nguyen and then you realize: there is no fire ball...

    • @sabbathjackal
      @sabbathjackal 6 років тому

      iamfiefo i think your forgetting about Kano

  • @novikovPrinciple
    @novikovPrinciple 7 років тому +774

    Peacock (Skullgirls) takes projectiles to their -annoying- logical extreme. "Keep-away game" is her bread and butter, and you want nothing more than to get in close and smash her cartoon-y face in.

    • @syrelian
      @syrelian 7 років тому +115

      And when she gets in close you get a Bang. and a Bang! and a football and a bomb and good god she doesn't get less obnoxious up close, there's a reason she's designed as Obnoxiousness Incarnate, and it works great

    • @kiracomfortinghishomie8351
      @kiracomfortinghishomie8351 6 років тому +47

      But brass knuckle super armor.

    • @toki_tsu_kaze5511
      @toki_tsu_kaze5511 5 років тому +8

      Peacock is western Mech-Hisui

    • @johntopping2728
      @johntopping2728 5 років тому

      @@kiracomfortinghishomie8351 Right back atcha

    • @mrmaster3393
      @mrmaster3393 5 років тому +6

      The game even somewhat tells you to play campy

  • @ultrameijin9503
    @ultrameijin9503 8 років тому +1826

    I'm not into Fighting Games and probably never will but your videos are always interesting. Thank you.

    • @Toomnyusernae
      @Toomnyusernae 8 років тому +84

      It's never too late to learn but if I had to offer any advice or factors that will sway you it would be the following:
      1) Not having muscle memory and execution will frustrate the hell out of you but the satisfaction of succeeding feels especially good.
      2) Starting with a new game is both a curse and a boon since you can learn at the same time as someone else but you'll get trounced in no time.
      3) You learn to lose a lot and appreciate games in a different way.

    • @rock100010000returns
      @rock100010000returns 8 років тому +53

      Also when you do win after many many losses it is thrilling. I've played around 40 games of SFV at this point and have won 3. Am I good? No. Am I better than I was 5 days ago? Oh yes. That's what is keeping me playing.

    • @violet5188
      @violet5188 7 років тому +5

      aotero u Y tho

    • @chantingzhang
      @chantingzhang 6 років тому +15

      Playing fighting games require a special kind of temperament
      an ability to munch defeat like a casual snack
      That is what I learned, about why I cannot play fighting games at all after 10+ years of trying to get into it
      I am just taking every moment and every defeat too seriously, and that made fighting games impossible for me.
      I love watching people play but I don't think I will ever get the mental cool to get into the thing.

    • @lukelblitz3627
      @lukelblitz3627 6 років тому +11

      same
      i have never been a fighting guy,i only really like skullgirls,but all the intricacies and the culture behind this genre are mind boggling

  • @dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668
    @dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668 5 років тому +242

    4:30 Sun Tzu's Art of War. Don't let your opponent know their strengths and weaknesses.

    • @derushcore9514
      @derushcore9514 4 роки тому +1

      *Technoblade would like to know your location*

    • @frostmirror1677
      @frostmirror1677 4 роки тому +3

      @@derushcore9514 you fool, don’t reveal all of your secrets in a UA-cam video, you fool, you moron

    • @andymcclurg9916
      @andymcclurg9916 3 роки тому

      -Sun Tzu

  • @Saiyanryu
    @Saiyanryu 4 роки тому +96

    2:18 Thought that said "SHIT SUPER COMBO."

    • @logandunlap9156
      @logandunlap9156 3 роки тому +12

      i mean compared to the long ass combos we know today, 5 hits is kinda shit

    • @Micha-Hil
      @Micha-Hil 3 роки тому +2

      well, technically it is

  • @Phychologik
    @Phychologik 5 років тому +99

    7:18 This is actual next level comedy

  • @johndaniel8283
    @johndaniel8283 8 років тому +321

    Favourite projectile character is hol horse from Jjba heritage to the future

    • @johndaniel8283
      @johndaniel8283 8 років тому +28

      Its a fucking godlike move for zoning

    • @pkcreshman9790
      @pkcreshman9790 8 років тому +10

      No Just No I take a liking to Middler in that game. Cars are fun.

    • @apex9580
      @apex9580 5 років тому +10

      I was not expecting somebody to bring up jojo in the comments

    • @THE_BASED_GOD
      @THE_BASED_GOD 5 років тому +2

      @@apex9580 Mariah best girl.

    • @ButterscotchPenguin
      @ButterscotchPenguin 5 років тому +5

      I wish they had a port of that came for newer gen consoles

  • @AndrewIHanna
    @AndrewIHanna 5 років тому +405

    Them: cheap projectile spamming. I, an intellectual: tactical zoning

    • @sabin97
      @sabin97 5 років тому +4

      back in the days of tekken tag and tekken 4 i mastered tactical zoning with lei wulong.
      it was so awesome when they just got scared of you.....i even hit someone with an unblockable.....

    • @bendover2684
      @bendover2684 4 роки тому

      *me

  • @Luky75
    @Luky75 8 років тому +734

    Wait what
    "Spam" meat and "spam" as I use it today are actually related?
    Whoa

    • @Luky75
      @Luky75 8 років тому +6

      And great video as always, thanks! I hate projectiles with a passion, so it's valuable info.

    • @TealPersonal
      @TealPersonal 8 років тому +19

      Learn something new everyday!

    • @zackdoom
      @zackdoom 8 років тому +26

      I learned that in school from my history teacher when learning about WW2
      it's weird how spam evolved to "spam" lmao

    • @marcosdheleno
      @marcosdheleno 8 років тому +10

      and thats goes to show the genious of monthy phyton.

    • @pnyhmsmx
      @pnyhmsmx 8 років тому

      Marcos Danilo I wasn't aware that they were responsible for that till now.

  • @marcuswilcock4300
    @marcuswilcock4300 7 років тому +47

    Hi Core, I must say I am absolutely loving the quality of your videos. I've appreciated fighting games for a long time (never been proficient at any though!) and the vast amount of factors that you bring to light (such as mind game, theories, game design etc) just show how intricate these games actually are. I hope to see more from you in the future, keep doing what you do! :D

  • @Mangosta12jr
    @Mangosta12jr 8 років тому +672

    My favourite projectile fighter? Hugo

    • @ew275x
      @ew275x 8 років тому +197

      My favorite Projectile? R. Mika's ass.

    • @Mangosta12jr
      @Mangosta12jr 8 років тому +14

      ew275x Yeh, you know it bro

    • @Walnut356
      @Walnut356 8 років тому +86

      Nice Shot Hugo

    • @Shoop400
      @Shoop400 8 років тому +9

      Hugo is number one.

    • @omukssbm
      @omukssbm 7 років тому +19

      Nice Shot Hugo

  • @V1tunpr0
    @V1tunpr0 7 років тому +324

    "Hey you know that Daigo guy?"
    "yea, he's super good at not losing."
    i just ruined his competitive career :)

    • @W.H.V.
      @W.H.V. 4 роки тому +5

      Damn, you really just did that.

  • @zackdoom
    @zackdoom 8 років тому +241

    Favourite projectile character
    Sean ft.Basketball

    • @Toomnyusernae
      @Toomnyusernae 8 років тому +16

      Adds pressure, builds up your stun output when it connects, super stereotypitcal, what's not to love about it ^_^

    • @Dxsmp
      @Dxsmp 8 років тому +2

      zackdoom yea throw the basketball at there ass

    • @Mfdude716
      @Mfdude716 7 років тому

      Zacharis best way to ko someone with Sean.

    • @unclesam530
      @unclesam530 6 років тому

      +Zacharis & Dudley's rose throw for the ladies ԅ(≖‿≖ԅ)

    • @cyanariesdw04
      @cyanariesdw04 6 років тому +2

      Basketball kills are hilarious

  • @endr0891
    @endr0891 3 роки тому +24

    It’s a tradition for me to watch all you videos, forget you exist for a few months, find you again, and procédé to rewatch all your videos once again. It’s an infinite cycle.

  • @CoreAGaming
    @CoreAGaming  8 років тому +445

    To answer my own question, Crow from Rising Thunder. RIP.

    • @WilkenKear
      @WilkenKear 8 років тому

      Vlad and his TK rocket. :'(

    • @bb010g
      @bb010g 8 років тому

      Core-A Gaming Did you get to ask S-Kill about his work at Riot when you interviewed him? :D

    • @MastaStefMedia
      @MastaStefMedia 8 років тому +1

      Core-A Gaming crow was literally the worst thing. but I played talos so I may be biased. lol

    • @CoreAGaming
      @CoreAGaming  8 років тому

      Brayden Banks That was a clip from the I Am Street Fighter documentary. I highly recommend it.

    • @ZyxWhitewind
      @ZyxWhitewind 8 років тому +3

      3s Remy.

  • @ToshiSan121
    @ToshiSan121 4 роки тому +13

    5:50 when Ken floats in the background. This editing is genius.

  • @FinalDragoon
    @FinalDragoon 8 років тому +34

    My favorite projectile fighters are Gouken and Gardevoir. Gouken is the opposite of Akuma in that he has anti-air fireballs so you can make a game out of how your opponent reacts to normal fireballs. Gardevoir just takes projectiles to a whole new level in Pokken, easily one of the top 5 zoning characters in all of fighting games.

    • @MBValentine
      @MBValentine Рік тому

      Energy Ball and its followup would legit be a top 5 move in any game that wasn't Pokken
      God I miss that game

  • @kaneicosasrandom8630
    @kaneicosasrandom8630 3 місяці тому +1

    7:36
    "After 20 years, how we just found out a new trick?"
    That was just magic.

  • @ianlove3217
    @ianlove3217 4 роки тому +41

    As bad competitively as he is, I really liked Remy from 3rd Strike. Mixing Sagat's highs and lows with Guile's charge commands and overall playstyle is a fun idea, and I especially like that the EX versions of his projectiles throw two at once that travel in wacky trajectories. If they ever bring him back for another SF game I would love to see the developers tinker around more with him.

  • @theladypalecorn7750
    @theladypalecorn7750 7 років тому +14

    Fox and Falco in Melee are perfect examples of fireballs in Smash. They can cause you to become frustrated and force you to approach. Falco's lasers stun you, making you act more defensive. Fox's lasers don't cause stun, but rack up damage fast, forcing you to approach and be offensive. I love it how these two moves that are almost the exact same cause you to do completely different things

  • @dynami3783
    @dynami3783 7 років тому +65

    RIP Cammy in the bottom screen 2017 2:49 ~ 2:51

    • @kingkrispy5289
      @kingkrispy5289 4 роки тому +4

      no more alpha Cammy, gone, reduced to ashes

  • @kingcrowbro2486
    @kingcrowbro2486 8 років тому +148

    Favorite Projectile Character?
    Nu-13 from the Blazblue series. Fireballs are her game...or rather, Swords are her game. Lots and lots and lots of swords. It's some pretty great stuff.

    • @Ragnanivan
      @Ragnanivan 8 років тому

      Ayyy J Gamer I didn't know you watched this stuff too

    • @WFoong98
      @WFoong98 8 років тому +8

      Also projectiles from opponents back are really good.

    • @kingcrowbro2486
      @kingcrowbro2486 8 років тому +4

      *Ayyy* There's that boi, oh shit what up?!
      Course I watch this stuff bro (I just wish he'd bring up Blazblue a bit more but it's cool)

    • @ignap
      @ignap 8 років тому

      JGamer king Agreed, she is so cool looking

    • @Roymoney1998
      @Roymoney1998 8 років тому +4

      Was about to say the same but another cool aspect is how a lot of her special attacks weave her in and out of attack range.

  • @tartsono
    @tartsono 7 років тому +353

    Obviously the best projectile character is Melee Falco.

    • @t1glistenerelf
      @t1glistenerelf 7 років тому +32

      I feel like ChrisG would pee his pants if he ever discovered that Falco's projectiles land-cancel and move across the stage in no time.

    • @jaggedsigns3O11
      @jaggedsigns3O11 7 років тому +47

      its disgusting what they did to Falco in sm4sh. that laser has more lag than smash attacks.

    • @Goreblender
      @Goreblender 7 років тому +5

      yeah but you can't kill someone with lasers like you can with hadoukens

    • @finnkliebhan2796
      @finnkliebhan2796 7 років тому +43

      Stray Dog if they are off stage and trying to recover they can

    • @Mr.Foxhat
      @Mr.Foxhat 6 років тому +20

      Stray Dog Hadoukens can kill, however like said in the video, they are mostly used for spacing and control over the opponent. In that case they are far more dangerous than Hadoukens.

  • @deadfr0g
    @deadfr0g 8 років тому +31

    5:58
    Oh mannn, that's from a thread I made on SRK years ago! This is so exciting to me! Almost showing up in a Gerald video. Hahaha.

  • @whirl3690
    @whirl3690 5 років тому +4

    Your analysis videos such as this one have gotten me into fighting games. I don't think I would have been able to appreciate these games as much as I do now if it weren't for them.

  • @yukmoutb5885
    @yukmoutb5885 8 років тому +53

    that HDKN on a spam can is genius.

  • @silva29
    @silva29 8 місяців тому

    Man I just discovered your content, I'm not even into fighting games but I can't stop watching your videos. It's a wealth of knowledge as well as witty and funny. Hope you're doing okay.

  • @horplesmoff
    @horplesmoff 8 років тому +4

    i really can't get enough of your videos!
    keep it up, man!!!

    • @URAYULI
      @URAYULI 5 років тому

      gcfffggxds

  • @Gamer-pc3sf
    @Gamer-pc3sf 5 років тому +116

    "Analysis: How the Hadouken Reinvented 2D Fighting"
    Sagat: *am i a joke to you?*

    • @rashidisw
      @rashidisw 5 років тому +13

      well... in earlier release of Street Fighter arcade, you can't play as Sagat.

    • @jorge4572
      @jorge4572 5 років тому +3

      *laughs in Sonic boom*

    • @God-ch8lq
      @God-ch8lq 5 років тому +1

      *laughs in IaMP*

    • @themilkomedanodyssey6053
      @themilkomedanodyssey6053 5 років тому +1

      *laughs in soku*

    • @God-ch8lq
      @God-ch8lq 5 років тому

      @@themilkomedanodyssey6053 ahh, a fellow soku player, (i main youmu and utsuho, what's your main)
      both of them were groundbreaking imo
      IaMP invented the conecpt of grazing and replaced footsies with projectiles
      soku (and SWR) added to this concept by adding flight and the deck system (which is one of the things i miss in the floaters)

  • @sourcreamtheunicorn7450
    @sourcreamtheunicorn7450 8 років тому +32

    I've always found Mario's bouncing fireballs in Smash to be my favorite tool in distraction and chip damage.

    • @MorphRed
      @MorphRed 4 роки тому +12

      I can't count the number of matches where a Mario started with a fireball

    • @Gender_Ascender
      @Gender_Ascender 3 роки тому +8

      @@MorphRed Mario using fireballs when recovering from being sent high, excellent way to force an opponent to make a snap decision about where to go, and Mario almost always can respond to make it back safely, but in Ultimate that's not a new or special thing, almost all characters have some way of making it back relatively safely.
      ... Almost all. *Cries in Mac*

  • @G_Gr00v3
    @G_Gr00v3 6 років тому +6

    I love Makoto from BlazBlue. My favorite thing about her projectiles is that you can form them, but then not throw them. So someone may block and dash, thinking you’ll throw it, but then they dash into one that’s still where you were just standing.

  • @jfncho
    @jfncho 8 років тому +210

    7:17 I see what you did there lol #salty

  • @spideycat9746
    @spideycat9746 5 років тому +77

    How the hadouken reinvented 2D fighting: Zoners wanted something to do

  • @anthemofadam
    @anthemofadam 8 років тому +32

    You are doing gods work! If I buy sfv, it's because of this video.

  • @jojoshfgc
    @jojoshfgc 3 роки тому +1

    i love watching core a gaming cuz sometimes he just goes way off topic and you just learn something you didn’t think you would.

  • @t-mofisher8922
    @t-mofisher8922 8 років тому +5

    My favourite fireball character will always be Sagat. He's just so fundamentally sound. Low and high mixup, good anti-air game to beat late jump ins, good normals,decent damage, the whole shebang. It feels satisfying to get a win because you don't feel like you just cheesed your opponent, even if they're salty you threw so many fireballs :P

  • @rafael471992
    @rafael471992 7 років тому +1

    Just wanna say that as a very casual fighting game fan, you produce the most interesting content BY FAR! I m glad I found you! Keep up the great work!

  • @BlackMasamuneX
    @BlackMasamuneX 8 років тому +207

    Can you do a video about the trend of trying to make fighting games more "accessible?"

    • @CoreAGaming
      @CoreAGaming  8 років тому +61

      I have been thinking about this a lot recently, especially with Fantasy Strike coming out.

    • @BlackMasamuneX
      @BlackMasamuneX 8 років тому +2

      Core-A Gaming I hope you do one, no rush. There's so much to say on the subject.

    • @stilmaho
      @stilmaho 8 років тому +1

      Just an opinion but I think it is a good think if they make the game more accessible at first then slowly make it more complex. That way developers can both increase the number of customers and the size of the community in long run.

    • @CrowSpaceboy
      @CrowSpaceboy 8 років тому +5

      It's tough to talk about fantasy strike without talking about sirlin's work as a whole. It's tough to say FS in particular is part of a trend when Sirlin has been doing this forevvvvver. I think Rising Thunder, even if it's dead, would fit that subject better.
      I hope that doesn't sound like a endorsement of FS, for the record. I run very hot and cold with his various projects.

    • @mayusocarina
      @mayusocarina 8 років тому

      I agree, do this.

  • @scyllasemusic2254
    @scyllasemusic2254 4 роки тому +4

    1:46 "Calculations and reads"
    **Proceeds to show ChrisG's soulfist spam clip**
    "Sure dood"

  • @royerthedestroyer7
    @royerthedestroyer7 5 років тому +4

    7:30 I discovered something similar with Guy back in Super Street Fighter 4 where I used a crouching medium kick and his animation makes him dodge fireballs too.

    • @RetroPillowcase
      @RetroPillowcase 4 роки тому

      Ok thanks. I couldn’t see what they were amazed by

  • @janderson9413
    @janderson9413 2 роки тому +4

    If your opponent is spamming a move, you're spamming a mistake.

  • @opsimathics
    @opsimathics 7 років тому +103

    remember guys, when we do it, it's spamming
    when the pros do it, it's zoning lol

    • @DrEarthwormRobotnik
      @DrEarthwormRobotnik 4 роки тому +9

      There's a difference between Zoning and Spamming. Spamming is just literally throwing out the same move without really thinking about it, whereas zoning is using fireballs for keepaway and with strategy.

    • @kingkrispy5289
      @kingkrispy5289 4 роки тому +4

      Dr. Earthworm Robotnik, thing is both absolutely incinerate scrubs, one just does it faster with less brain effort required

    • @MorphRed
      @MorphRed 4 роки тому

      @@kingkrispy5289 Spamming jab

    • @kingkrispy5289
      @kingkrispy5289 4 роки тому

      MorphRed me and the boys boutta walk at someone on their wake up then block their DP

    • @yeetusthemfetus1436
      @yeetusthemfetus1436 4 роки тому

      Both are a pain to deal with

  • @basilvitamin8878
    @basilvitamin8878 Місяць тому

    No joke, this video is what really got me into fighting games. Just understanding the concept of fireballs and anti-airs is what let me learn Sagat in SFV, and I've been a zoner fanatic ever since. Space control is my favourite aspect of fighting games by far, literally nothing else is like the feeling of knowing exactly when someone's going to jump and punishing it. It's the single most important skill to learn at low levels and it literally never stops being relevant... And on a surface level, it's so simple and satisfying. I think more people would get to experience how cool this genre is if they knew just how simple the learning process could be, and how little frame data and combos actually matter when starting out.
    thank you, Core-A :)

  • @SJNaka101
    @SJNaka101 5 років тому +16

    "If someone says I'm good at something, I deny it and try to do other things"
    Me: Wow, you're really good at winning

  • @uyaipek7054
    @uyaipek7054 7 років тому +1

    Your videos are combination of great research and execution. They are high level production quality.

  • @randaru1527
    @randaru1527 7 років тому +30

    "The recovery is usually as long as the jump-in"
    That is unless you play Guile

    • @MansMan42069
      @MansMan42069 4 роки тому +5

      Compensation for having to charge

    • @idk72.
      @idk72. 3 роки тому +1

      @@MansMan42069 personally I think charge > command,I just feel like charging is way easier

    • @MansMan42069
      @MansMan42069 3 роки тому

      @@idk72. Not that it's easier, but because you need to keep it in mind.

    • @idk72.
      @idk72. 3 роки тому

      @@MansMan42069 oh yeah, that definitely is a disadvantage when playing chargers, but once you get used to it, you even start to do it for instinct, sometimes I start the rounds charging my specials with gill...

  • @victorlacerda8015
    @victorlacerda8015 7 років тому

    I don't even play fighting games but have watched all of your videos because they're so thorough and well put together.

  • @wamblo8966
    @wamblo8966 5 років тому +110

    Worst projectile character?
    PK FIRE 🔥PK FIRE 🔥PK FIRE🔥
    If your ptsd just got triggered, you know who I’m talking about.

    • @congobongoproductions5476
      @congobongoproductions5476 5 років тому +10

      Like it isn't recognizable...

    • @coyote311
      @coyote311 5 років тому +17

      Fighting Ness is the one time where I condone child abuse!

    • @Tom-jw7ii
      @Tom-jw7ii 5 років тому +12

      lol remember when sdi existed

    • @lordlouie3550
      @lordlouie3550 5 років тому +2

      You people are bein babies... either that or Ridley (Whom I main) is really good at countering Ness... I’ll choose the former.

    • @nzbg1132
      @nzbg1132 5 років тому

      or scorpion from mortal kombat 9

  • @Karanagi
    @Karanagi 7 років тому

    Your videos continue to impress. Not just as an analysis of fighting games, but of the underlying dynamics that all games adhere to.

  • @IchigoVizardful
    @IchigoVizardful 8 років тому +6

    One of your best and the most thought-provoking video ever.
    Been waiting for your next video over a month ago but it was worth it 👊😉.
    Keep up the good work man and you deserved more subs IMO.

    • @CoreAGaming
      @CoreAGaming  8 років тому

      Thanks for waiting, I know they take awhile.

  • @clarencemayer323
    @clarencemayer323 6 років тому +2

    Poongko's dance at 2:00 are top tier lol

  • @RinInABin
    @RinInABin 8 років тому +19

    2:11 I need this clip of Daigo in a lab coat for research reasons
    where can i get it

    • @sandrin0
      @sandrin0 8 років тому +7

      /watch?v=q9GdfG1kd_0 daigo teaching kuroda the secrets of the fireball

    • @RinInABin
      @RinInABin 8 років тому +7

      Samir Velshi
      Thank you. You are a scholar and a gentleman.

    • @LieseFury
      @LieseFury 6 років тому

      why is it so fitting that the person talking like le ebin redditor is racist

  • @christophercollins3632
    @christophercollins3632 7 років тому

    What I like about you my friend, is that you manage to be hilarious, and demure at the same time. The various inserted animations I have very much enjoyed. An unexpected pleasure to be entertained so thoroughly with information and humor. I finally understood what the thumbnail to this video was representing after completing it. I must say, well done, well done. HDKN = SPAM by the way the last time I touched a joystick to a fighting game was back when streetfighter with Blanca was in the arcade. I just find this whole evolution of competitive fighting game play to be fascinating enough to want to try and understand it. This channel of yours has been a boon.

  • @boredlazymax
    @boredlazymax 2 роки тому +3

    Meanwhile in Street Fighter 3 Third Strike:
    **parry the projectile**

  • @jo_nm9484
    @jo_nm9484 6 років тому +1

    In the ssb series, if you use the same move too much, it does less damage

  • @dextrodemon
    @dextrodemon 8 років тому +31

    nice stick bruv

    • @CoreAGaming
      @CoreAGaming  8 років тому +34

      Just not-so-subtle bragging lol.

  • @jimmykeffer7401
    @jimmykeffer7401 7 років тому +2

    Peacock from Skullgirls - her insane arsenal of projectiles and loony toons aesthetic make for a hilariously frustrating match.

  • @NMGardening
    @NMGardening 8 років тому +4

    great video! it makes me stoked for the new Akuma the cowardly lion... he's gonna be my mane.

  • @Micha-Hil
    @Micha-Hil 3 роки тому +5

    2:25
    it still baffles me how a family guy gag explains spacing so well

    • @dexi6111
      @dexi6111 3 роки тому +1

      I come back to this video just to watch that clip

  • @mwoakill09
    @mwoakill09 8 років тому +4

    I watch for you for your analysis, I love you for your analysis. Give me more analysis

  • @sabbathjackal
    @sabbathjackal 7 років тому +5

    ok full screen haduken canceldash forward shoryuken. there now you can hit those jumpers. bonus if you launch him bacwards into your fireball

  • @MrSonicDoctor
    @MrSonicDoctor 8 років тому +19

    Best projectile character? Morrigan hands down. Just soul fist, soul fist, soul fist and soul fist.

    • @Toomnyusernae
      @Toomnyusernae 8 років тому

      Not in her debut though.

    • @edfreak9001
      @edfreak9001 8 років тому

      I still don't understand why Morrigan does decent damage on block with that.

    • @Toomnyusernae
      @Toomnyusernae 8 років тому

      Maybe it was an oversight that would have been fixed if Capcom kept up with the updates and patches. Stuck now.

    • @edfreak9001
      @edfreak9001 8 років тому

      Toomnyusernae
      If memory serves, there's a rebalanced version of USF4 you can play on PC (probably only with other people using the mod, I imagine) so maybe there's hope we can get something like that for UMvC3?

    • @Toomnyusernae
      @Toomnyusernae 8 років тому

      Sometimes those little quirks are better left in than get changed. I doubt Capcom and Marvel would churn out an update for the game. It's crazy enough that they've decided to do a re-release on PS4. Hopefully they'll allow for MvC2 and that Marvel Origins to return to the Psn.

  • @ismailsimsek332
    @ismailsimsek332 6 років тому

    i actually dont know why i binge watch your videos, i dont even listen to you man but its addicting in some strange sense

  • @therealkzero
    @therealkzero 8 років тому +5

    Favorite projectile character? Probably Spinal from Killer Instinct. They're skulls that drain/stop meters. SKULLS!

  • @ricardoludwig4787
    @ricardoludwig4787 3 роки тому +2

    My favorite projectile character is probably venom in xrd or nu 13 in most games she shows up in. Venom has the most interesting case of setup and manipulation of his projectiles I've ever seen, allowing a complex mix of aggression and zoning while nu completely shifts how your average character is since she is a zoner that actually combos and mixes from Fullscreen, but still has reasons to advance occasionally

  • @GusNStuff
    @GusNStuff 4 роки тому +3

    I think fox has an interesting projectile.
    Who knew that a laser that does no stun and 3% on hit would be so effective?

  • @dracomundo1498
    @dracomundo1498 7 років тому +2

    Arthur from UMVC3 helped me learn and practice executing Hado's consistently, so I have some memories with him

  • @a_stray_dog
    @a_stray_dog 8 років тому +71

    Fantastic video, as per usual. I've never been a huge SF guys, but your analysis makes me appreciate it more and more every time. As for projectile characters -- Samus in SSB4. I feel like her projectile game in Melee was greatly underemphasised, and that it really started coming together in 4 (even if she IS kind of a shitty character).

    • @kazumi_ssbm1968
      @kazumi_ssbm1968 8 років тому +33

      not to be that guy, but samus' projectiles are waaaaayyyyy waaayy more powerful in melee. Not only do her super missiles kill, but with use of missile canceling she can fire twice as many at her opponent.

    • @CoreAGaming
      @CoreAGaming  8 років тому +6

      Yeah, this was strongly focused on SF, but I'll be mixing it up a lot in the coming videos.

    • @Femil90
      @Femil90 8 років тому +6

      smash and melee are not fighting games tbqh

    • @Cunt143
      @Cunt143 8 років тому +37

      toromoreno Soup isn't a type of food tbh

    • @Femil90
      @Femil90 8 років тому +4

      correct ReviewRapeUSA

  • @CureCryptic
    @CureCryptic 3 роки тому +4

    Can't believe a fucking Family Guy clip taught me about spacing

    • @idk72.
      @idk72. 3 роки тому

      A clip about a kick mid boxing match taught me about frame data, and it was from this same channel

  • @misstahj5651
    @misstahj5651 8 років тому +55

    Morrigan from UMvC3 Kappa

    • @TurnOntheBrightLights.
      @TurnOntheBrightLights. 8 років тому +13

      Misstah J SO-SO! SO-SO! SO-SO!

    • @cheef825
      @cheef825 8 років тому +1

      wtf so annoying

    • @DepressionShaman
      @DepressionShaman 6 років тому +1

      Fuck Morrigan! I HATE THAT BITCH! OMG so many bad memories in Capcom vs SNK 2. LOL

  • @Eggroll3s
    @Eggroll3s 5 років тому +8

    Thumbnail: *PUT ME ON A SHIRT*

  • @coolguynotfoolguy8759
    @coolguynotfoolguy8759 5 років тому +3

    4:30 but what if someone says that avoiding doing what someone said is a strength of Diago's?

  • @glench4693
    @glench4693 7 років тому

    I dont play much fighting games and I always love watching videos like this

  • @thelightseeker94
    @thelightseeker94 8 років тому +20

    Strange Sunset nice.

  • @AC-xi4yn
    @AC-xi4yn 5 років тому

    Loved the subtle editing in 2:53

  • @oopsiexistnow
    @oopsiexistnow 5 років тому +21

    Belmont, I’m extremely late to the party, but Belmont

  • @monchete9934
    @monchete9934 6 років тому +2

    Nu-13 from Blazblue (RIP Drive Button). Es also has two projectiles that when they match (small window btw) they become a bigger projectile with more knockback (enough to trigger a wakeup)

  • @ghus2046
    @ghus2046 8 років тому +4

    My one true projectile love is the girl from TvC that had the giant laser, bullets, and grenade. I think her name was Saku and she was the only character to have a laser in that game. Oh the spam!

    • @lancemaximoff141
      @lancemaximoff141 8 років тому

      Jordan H *Saki
      But I agree. I never played TvC, but I'd main her.

    • @pnyhmsmx
      @pnyhmsmx 8 років тому

      Jordan H She felt busted alright. Mina from Samurai Showdown 5 also felt busted.

    • @pnyhmsmx
      @pnyhmsmx 8 років тому

      Jordan H She felt busted alright. Mina from Samurai Showdown 5 also felt busted.

  • @NightFore
    @NightFore 5 років тому +1

    2:47 That beautiful kick though.

  • @flerphead
    @flerphead 8 років тому +90

    Old Sagat. Cause I'm an asshole.

    • @RikouHogashi
      @RikouHogashi 7 років тому

      Alpha 1 Sagat's Tiger Uppercut is boss

  • @kmaru80
    @kmaru80 7 років тому

    so glad I stumbled across this channel. This is some of the most interesting content I've found in awhile. Happy new sub.

  • @kuroshinko427
    @kuroshinko427 8 років тому +10

    Hey Gerald, can you do a video comparing SF vs. Tekken? A few people I know don't Like SF because of the spamming you mentioned in this video so they switch to Tekken which they feel is a better game and some people don't like tekken because it's hard and stick to simpler 2d fighters. I like your channel, keep up with the great videos!

    • @7Metal7Monkey7
      @7Metal7Monkey7 5 років тому +1

      Kuro Shinko I think you got that last bit mixed up

  • @Jayvee4635
    @Jayvee4635 4 роки тому +1

    1:32 - Strange Sunset - Guile and Allen Snider Theme

  • @MAYOFORCE
    @MAYOFORCE 8 років тому +4

    Are you gonna do a followup video on the shoryuken?

    • @CoreAGaming
      @CoreAGaming  8 років тому +3

      Probably sometime in the future. Heard SFV is taking out meterless invincible DP. Big change.

    • @LieseFury
      @LieseFury 6 років тому

      Mayo Chan This video already covered the Shoryu, because its existence is an essential part of making the fireball work.

  • @hungrycrackpot
    @hungrycrackpot 7 років тому

    There isn't a single video here that truly emphasizes what I am about to say, so I randomly picked this one: I am an indie game dev. I make shooter games, not fighter games. That said, I have always felt that the balance and mechanics of a fighter teach a TREMENDOUS AMOUNT about game balance in general. As such, I not only enjoy your videos, but seriously believe they should be taught to ANYONE entering the game development scene. Your videos are honestly some of the best at teaching the right mindset for game development, even if you are only trying to break it down for players and not devs.

  • @GatsuRage
    @GatsuRage 8 років тому +6

    2:49 lol and he hit her!

  • @Mickspad
    @Mickspad 6 років тому

    My favorite projectile character is Vatista from BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle, I know she was in UNIB, but she was a charge character in that, in BBTag she's a motion character, I love how cute she is and how damaging her projectiles are

  • @frogmin2439
    @frogmin2439 8 років тому +4

    Thoughts on Akuma's SFV theme?

    • @CoreAGaming
      @CoreAGaming  8 років тому +6

      It's growing on me :)

    • @frogmin2439
      @frogmin2439 8 років тому

      Core-A Gaming Myself included i guess, even the dub step. Hell, i never minded Evil Ryu's theme in AE so it'd be unfair judgement.

  • @Kreiser_VII
    @Kreiser_VII Рік тому

    I learnt to love fireballs with Cloud's Blade Beam in Smash Ultimate. Mixing up the shot between ground, midair, retreat, rush in, after engaging, it's the best to use them to create a tell for the opponent.

  • @malikcrim13
    @malikcrim13 8 років тому +7

    Deathstroke for Injustice
    Ryu for SF

  • @Suika_Ibuki_The_Drunk_Oni
    @Suika_Ibuki_The_Drunk_Oni 8 років тому +6

    Don't actually have a favorite Projectile character. Not because i don't like em. Grapplers just rarely have those DX

  • @Bizzozeron
    @Bizzozeron 6 років тому

    Falco in Melee is absolutely amazing conceptually, his gun is definitely the casual killer and a really frustrating tool - but the beauty in Falco's gun is that there's no ending to it. Jumping in and firing your gun can be really stupid if your opponent just eats the hit and responds 'for free', but if your opponent has grown used to shielding the hits for whatever reason, you jumping in with the gun lets you land and get a grab - sort of like a not-empty tomahawk. It's this mindgame that really makes Falco stand out as different from Fox, among other things.

  • @octavioquevedocabrejos2092
    @octavioquevedocabrejos2092 8 років тому +8

    Give Gief a fireball

    • @CoreAGaming
      @CoreAGaming  8 років тому +8

      Give Ken a command grab :p

    • @SkribbleNL
      @SkribbleNL 8 років тому

      just for a laugh I would like to see how ken with a command grab would turn out xD

    • @bug-deal
      @bug-deal 8 років тому +3

      check out Sol Badguy in Guilty Gear ;]

    • @netomeira796
      @netomeira796 8 років тому +1

      Give Gief a gun

    • @Bloodlyshiva
      @Bloodlyshiva 7 років тому

      Banishing Flat/Green Hand has been able to outright reflect fireballs once and once only. Guess where.

  • @cookerlv
    @cookerlv 6 років тому

    I like how unique spacie lasers are in Melee. Both Fox and Falco have projectiles which are much, much faster than a standard fireball, and they both have unique effects.