@@asdtgh8895 ikr it made him sound so desperate, he can't rely on Spiderman for hope so he relies on someone he would normally disregard as nothing for hope, which circles back to Peter Parker's statement that Spiderman gives people hope. They're both at their worst too, Harry's clock kept ticking and Electro is fully on restraints
As much as I hated DeHaan's take on Goblin, he's a really good actor. Just need to give him the right script. His acting in this scene is extremely believable and powerful.
Big agree but this is a chance to get some huge hits on his resume he’ll probably be able to easily pick his spots in the big movies after a few more years. Young talented guy
A lot of the scenes individually by themselves really have some amazing performances, it’s too bad the story that connected them all together was so sloppy
@@hyyde2161 - I found this second movie, with its overarching theme of ‘time running out’, to be much more sophisticated than the average Spider-Man cinematic beast. It opens with the camera’s ‘POV’ weaving through the gears of Richard Parker’s watch, and ends with a final battle in the gears of a clock tower in which time _does_ sadly run out for one of the primary characters. I guess where a lot of it missed the mark is that it’s uncharacteristically dark next to the generally light source material / brightly-coloured cinematic fare, but I still like and salute a film that dares to do something else. And I felt the merging of Harry’s / Max’s stories was fairly coherent and logical.
@@ahmedghazal4240 They aren’t even the same Goblins. One is Harry and the other one is Norman. Dafoe is ALWAYS great in any role he plays, but still Dehan made such a good villain despite what many said. If this came before the Raimi trilogy, I don’t think many people would complain about his take on the character
@@MsAggie78 100% There's something almost uncanny valley about him. He truly does have one of the most beautiful faces in Hollywood. Too bad he's losing his hair. If ever someone should get hair plugs without judgment, it's Dane. I see why he has also actually done work as a model. What a face!
Honestly… This isn’t even that bad. At the very least, the character motivations come together in a way that is both sensible and symmetrical. Max wanted to be Spider-Man’s friend, but was rejected. Harry needed _Peter’s_ friendship, and got rejected. Both happened for somewhat valid reasons, but they’re both unstable enough that it sent them on the same path: let’s go get Spider-Man. I kinda dig it.
This Harry was far more well-rounded and motivated. This Harry was sent away by his father, he's rejected even when his father was on his death bed, he's an orphan, he's dying from a disease he got from the father who never loved him, his supposed best friend won't help him so he can find a cure, AND he got kicked out of the company he was supposed to inherit. He was a decent guy at first who was pushed to the breaking point because he's dying and desperate and has nothing and no one. If something can be said about Harry in the Raimi films, his "development" wasn't very good. Even his dad was with him and just lightly criticized him, like, once, and paid attention to Peter. But you didn't get a sense of him withholding love from Harry entirely like the Norman/Harry relationship in this movie. This Harry, despite studio meddling, was a multi-layered character.
Yessir. The issue of TAS2 is not Harry or Electro. It's fucking Peter himself. Now people wonder why we used to say he was the worst Spiderman like, duuuh ? His Spiderman, although not written by him, made the movies bad.
@@LadyAstarionAncunin Bro, I've been saying this on another video's comment section but nobody seemed to agree with me, glad to know somebody acknowledges the writing of harry's character in this
I DGAF, I like this movie! First off, Dane DeHaan is legitimately beautiful, almost elven-like, if that makes sense. There's a sinister tinge to his beauty as well, along with his vulnerability, both which are perfect for playing this kind of role. Despite the studio's dumb choices, not a single person can say that Dane, Andrew, Emma, Sally, or some others didn't put their all into their acting! That's why I can't hate the movie. This was a really good exchange, great acting, tension, drama, music, etc.
@@harishsd4173 MCU CGI has never failed? Come again? Just look at the BP vs Killmonger fight. MCU's cgi might be good at times but its artistically uninteresting.
Possibly unpopular opinion: Dane was good casting as Harry. And when he didn't get horrific dialogue, he was really good. 1:23-1:45 Really like his desperation mounting with Max until he just completely loses it after it looks like he's going to fail to get the help he needs to survive.
Ok but like lowkey electros design wasn’t even that bad, and despite his more comic accurate costume in nwh it would’ve been fun to see this version again with better cgi
The one thing this movie had was so much potential. Like it felt like it all should've been something amazing but the way it was written just fell flat. All the acting in this movie is phenomenal and the CGI and soundtrack is, too, it's just the way the whole story was plotted had Harry's plot doomed from the beginning IMO.
This movie is not just about a hero fighting a villain it has a very very dark story that's what I hate about the tasm films. Spiderman films should be engaging and funny and also that children can enjoy it. Tasm lacked that. That's why people hate it.I'm a big fan of the tasm trilogy too. And sure it had lots of flaws.
He is sick but not dying. The syndromes are just appearing but for exemple Norman died far later in his life so Harry was probably still healthy at this point. He says himself as dying to hit Pete’s feels. And he broke into the prison because they let him in at first because they thought he was still the boss at Oscorp. He only took down two guards later to reach Electro’s cell…
I think The Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon series version of Harry was the only time he wasn’t an ahole to Peter/Spider-Man. I wanna see that version portrayed on live film. Maybe in Tom Holland’s next trilogy.
I really liked this Harry. He's just so Desperate. Who the hell made his hair look like Bully Maguire and looks like a Kid when he's 20 tho? I don't mind that but still.
They literally did electro better in tasm2 than no way home. Kevin feige literally said he liked electro a lot from tasm 2. Why tf did he change him so much???
@@lexramstudios1386 tobey isn’t comic accurate and same with Tom. Fans never asked for a different electro. What are you on about? They changed electro for the sake of comic accurate hype and comedic relief. He wasn’t even electro anymore, he was just Jamie fox. Electro was one of the few really good things about tasm2 and they turned him into a joke.
TASM movies are a great example of why scripts/writing is the most important part of making a successful movie, because you can’t deny that the acting in these movies were A1, music almost always slapped, the camera work was beautiful, and the CGI/practical effects were balanced well but the movies still underperformed with the public because of the poor writing. Also I love this scene, I’d argue this is the highlight of the movie outside the clock fight. Most people hate on Dehan’s version of Harry but this scene was really amazing acting from both Dehan and Foxx, Harry pleading for help with Max and telling him how he needs him, that he “sees him” which is all Max ever wanted from the people in his life. I think what would have saved this film is if this was made into two films, with TASM 2 having Electro and Rhino going to prison by the end of it and in TASM 3 Harry busts Electro and the rest out to form the Sinister 6. I think the pacing would have worked more to better develop Max as a antagonist and to allow the audience to better understand Harry’s struggles with his declining health and his company/fathers shady business behind closed doors.
1:18 He looks kinda like Arnold’s Mr. Freeze from that distance lol, anyways he looked pretty cool in this but I think it would be cooler if they would have gave him something similar to his look from No Way Home cuz he looked awesome in that movie.
Honestly. If they made him have actual motivation to be a villain and not just cuz he was jealous of Spidey having the spotlight he could have been good
You got a problem with nerds? Also, max was ignored by everyone, even his mother,(deleted scene) forgot it was his birthday. Nobody cared about him. To make things worse, they were calling him freak, when he was just confused on what happened to him. He meant no harm to anyone, until that sniper triggered him off. Society made him a villain.
You wanna be my friend?😠⚡️ I thought we were already friends? 😁⚡️😯 I had a friend once. It didn’t work out. Yeah. Me too. Then let’s go catch a spider.
Electro voice is ASMR
He will be better in no way home.
😅
Yes
🦹🦹🦹
ASMRRRRR
they did his voice so well it feels like his voice is really electrified
You can do that in front of an electric fan. Not that deep though.
He looks better in no way home
@@lopezrome1982 disagree
@@lopezrome1982 disagree
Shame he’s blue
Harry's voice when he goes 'I need you' is so real it's really sad
True
His hatred towards Spiderman is also commendable, like when he emphasises on the word "bleed"
@@asdtgh8895 ikr it made him sound so desperate, he can't rely on Spiderman for hope so he relies on someone he would normally disregard as nothing for hope, which circles back to Peter Parker's statement that Spiderman gives people hope. They're both at their worst too, Harry's clock kept ticking and Electro is fully on restraints
He is underrated as fuck
i disagree
As much as I hated DeHaan's take on Goblin, he's a really good actor. Just need to give him the right script. His acting in this scene is extremely believable and powerful.
Big agree but this is a chance to get some huge hits on his resume he’ll probably be able to easily pick his spots in the big movies after a few more years. Young talented guy
Same thing as jamie foxx and electro. Great actor, bad character, at least he is getting a second chance now
@@clubpenguin3ilhas perfect example yeah the character was absolutely cringy especially when you know django is behind it
To be honest i really like DeHaan's character as villain in any movies bcause his facial expression is believable
I don't want him as a green goblin in no way home
"i know what it feels like to be thrown away" that feeling yeah i know what it feels like too
calm down edge boi
Both versions of Harry have a thing for making deals with villains before taking the Goblin persona.
And the villains they made deals with were part of the 2nd installment from their trilogies!
@@jb57551 harry is not :(
@@jb57551 trilogies?
@@jb57551 you mean 2nd movies
@@Axzry This was planned to be a trilogy with several spin-offs
DeHaan's acting is so good... Too bad he wasn't given a good script
Reminded me so much of his role in Chronicle.
I would still cite this as an incredibly underrated _Spider-man_ film with some all-star performances all around . . .
Naw it’s exactly where it should be
A lot of the scenes individually by themselves really have some amazing performances, it’s too bad the story that connected them all together was so sloppy
@@hyyde2161 - I found this second movie, with its overarching theme of ‘time running out’, to be much more sophisticated than the average Spider-Man cinematic beast. It opens with the camera’s ‘POV’ weaving through the gears of Richard Parker’s watch, and ends with a final battle in the gears of a clock tower in which time _does_ sadly run out for one of the primary characters. I guess where a lot of it missed the mark is that it’s uncharacteristically dark next to the generally light source material / brightly-coloured cinematic fare, but I still like and salute a film that dares to do something else. And I felt the merging of Harry’s / Max’s stories was fairly coherent and logical.
I think it's the story that's lackluster. The acting itself is actually really solid.
@@dog8438 facts and the villain design I didn’t like either the movie is still 6.5/10 to me
Dane DeHaan made me realize what "creepy" looks like.
When he played a _protagonist_ in "Valerian".
That's an achievement.
Green goblin William Dafoe is better than dane Goblin
He's stunningly beautiful and creepy looking as hell at the same time.😍😍
@@ahmedghazal4240 we agree.
We never said who was the better one tho
@@ahmedghazal4240 They aren’t even the same Goblins. One is Harry and the other one is Norman. Dafoe is ALWAYS great in any role he plays, but still Dehan made such a good villain despite what many said. If this came before the Raimi trilogy, I don’t think many people would complain about his take on the character
@@MsAggie78 100% There's something almost uncanny valley about him. He truly does have one of the most beautiful faces in Hollywood. Too bad he's losing his hair. If ever someone should get hair plugs without judgment, it's Dane. I see why he has also actually done work as a model. What a face!
I love Dane DeHaan's acting
Absolutely. Me too. You could feel the utter desperation on his face and in his voice. Amazing actor!
Same. He did well as *Andrew.....*
everyone involved in the making of this movie did a phenomenal job except the writers
@@kraken5838 and Sony ofc
He's acting is awful. Cringe
Honestly… This isn’t even that bad. At the very least, the character motivations come together in a way that is both sensible and symmetrical. Max wanted to be Spider-Man’s friend, but was rejected. Harry needed _Peter’s_ friendship, and got rejected. Both happened for somewhat valid reasons, but they’re both unstable enough that it sent them on the same path: let’s go get Spider-Man. I kinda dig it.
This Harry was far more well-rounded and motivated. This Harry was sent away by his father, he's rejected even when his father was on his death bed, he's an orphan, he's dying from a disease he got from the father who never loved him, his supposed best friend won't help him so he can find a cure, AND he got kicked out of the company he was supposed to inherit. He was a decent guy at first who was pushed to the breaking point because he's dying and desperate and has nothing and no one. If something can be said about Harry in the Raimi films, his "development" wasn't very good. Even his dad was with him and just lightly criticized him, like, once, and paid attention to Peter. But you didn't get a sense of him withholding love from Harry entirely like the Norman/Harry relationship in this movie. This Harry, despite studio meddling, was a multi-layered character.
Yessir. The issue of TAS2 is not Harry or Electro. It's fucking Peter himself. Now people wonder why we used to say he was the worst Spiderman like, duuuh ? His Spiderman, although not written by him, made the movies bad.
@@LadyAstarionAncunin Bro, I've been saying this on another video's comment section but nobody seemed to agree with me, glad to know somebody acknowledges the writing of harry's character in this
@MoVerse You wanna kill Spider man and He wants to kill Spider man
Does anyone care what I want?
@@wl4810 no
I DGAF, I like this movie! First off, Dane DeHaan is legitimately beautiful, almost elven-like, if that makes sense. There's a sinister tinge to his beauty as well, along with his vulnerability, both which are perfect for playing this kind of role. Despite the studio's dumb choices, not a single person can say that Dane, Andrew, Emma, Sally, or some others didn't put their all into their acting! That's why I can't hate the movie. This was a really good exchange, great acting, tension, drama, music, etc.
He is quite gorgeous true. His butt is insane 0.0
Me too. Dane did great with what he had to work with. I also like his design and his demonic cackle
Plus if the third film happened, imagine the tension since he’s become Peter’s archenemy after causing Gwen’s death.
Watching Electro with today's CGI is gonna be so fkn epic. Sand man too
today's CGI will probably look worse than what they pulled off here
@@The_Patbey No Way Home trailers already prove that to be false
@@Fossfuris watch the spidey vs electro fight. You really compare this?
@@The_Patbey wait for the movie... MCU cgi has never failed
@@harishsd4173 MCU CGI has never failed? Come again? Just look at the BP vs Killmonger fight. MCU's cgi might be good at times but its artistically uninteresting.
One thing this movie didn't disappoint with is the villain soundtrack
Yeah Electro's theme is on point.
Also the Spider man swings and fight scenes with slow motion were amazing
Just the story was bad
Story was bad by any means. It just wasn't "Amazing".
@Hello come on man, we all gotta accept it at one point, *NO* story is without flaws
Possibly unpopular opinion: Dane was good casting as Harry.
And when he didn't get horrific dialogue, he was really good.
1:23-1:45 Really like his desperation mounting with Max until he just completely loses it after it looks like he's going to fail to get the help he needs to survive.
The music used in this scene is fucking perfect. Thank you Hans Zimmer
I love how Electro was able to manifest a pair of shorts for himself
2:24 Excellent sinister smirk. Very Grinch-like
When watching this movie for the first time, my brain shut off the second I saw the “German doctor” Lol
Cure for welness?
I felt bad for harry because this shows how much he wanted to stick around
this harry is so awesome i hope they bring him back as well
No he is horrible
@@thethinkingmansgame5050 your opinion bub.
I do love Electro’s voice and hope they keep it for No Way Home
Electro in TASM 2 : Then let's go catch a spider 😈
Electro in No way home : Damn I thought you were black 😐
Some parts they did in the final battle
*Me "Mom can I have Doctor Manhattan?"
*Mom "We have Doctor Manhattan at home"
Doctor Manhattan at home >
Electro is just doctor Manhattan in briefs lmao
electro really turned into the final boss of smash brawl
Ok but like lowkey electros design wasn’t even that bad, and despite his more comic accurate costume in nwh it would’ve been fun to see this version again with better cgi
Maybe we will before he gets his upgrade.
his electro design was already based on the ultimate comics ppl just like the og look for him more i didn’t think this one was bad tho
I loved this design personally. Never really understood the hate.
Hopefully we do see him looking like this before he gets the upgrades.
2:02 me arriving at the cinema for first showing of NWH
Soundtrack is simply amazing.
Hans Zimmer never dissapoint us
I LIKE THIS ELECTRO DESIGN BETTER THAN IN NO WAY HOME
Same here
I see everyone praising the new look, but I always loved this one personally. He looks a lot more threatening imo.
@@lil7725 I hope he atleast has this look in the beginning of NWH.
@@Xominus what a fucking prediction
@@Xominus Spoilers
He kind of did
@@dadislow in the beginning of nwh blue electro looked like 1:47
I love this movie because of the acting and it's action scenes
Interestingly, the friend that didn't work out for both is Spiderman and Peter Parker
2:02 if Electro doesn’t make his return in No Way Home like this, music and all then I don’t want it
I remember there was a scene in the trailer where Electro is seemingly manifesting like that while spiderman could be seen talking on a communicator
The music is just amazing
It did for a short amount of time, Same for Blue Electro
If you listen closely at 2:50 you can hear Kafka being submerged and dying in the water.
The voice is badass in this but they are doing the character justice in now way home
The one thing this movie had was so much potential. Like it felt like it all should've been something amazing but the way it was written just fell flat. All the acting in this movie is phenomenal and the CGI and soundtrack is, too, it's just the way the whole story was plotted had Harry's plot doomed from the beginning IMO.
tht electric voice was next level on imax theatres
This movie really had something different
@SharkTank dude which movie made is entirely flawless
Ofc there are flaws but it was different
@SharkTank yeah dude
A lot of things are not justified
Example the rhino fight
@SharkTank wdym there is no reason, Harry needs the blood to live and from his point of view Spider-Man is letting him die, did u even watch the movie
This movie is not just about a hero fighting a villain it has a very very dark story that's what I hate about the tasm films. Spiderman films should be engaging and funny and also that children can enjoy it. Tasm lacked that. That's why people hate it.I'm a big fan of the tasm trilogy too. And sure it had lots of flaws.
@@liquidsucks340 cmon dude it is funny and dark too
Cant make a goddamn disney princess movie
Its a comic movie and humour comes with dark theme too
How did sick human Harry Osborn break into a maximum security prison by himself? Why not have this scene after he becomes the goblin?
But then he wouldn’t need electro
Cause without electro he wouldn’t have gotten into oscorp therefore he wouldn’t become green goblin
He is sick but not dying. The syndromes are just appearing but for exemple Norman died far later in his life so Harry was probably still healthy at this point. He says himself as dying to hit Pete’s feels. And he broke into the prison because they let him in at first because they thought he was still the boss at Oscorp. He only took down two guards later to reach Electro’s cell…
1:49 that went hard in the theater
Jamie Foxx is born to be Electro 😎😎😎💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥👍👍👍
Electro was the best part of this movie!
Oh harry what did you do.
Electro: You Need Me?
Harry Osborn: Yes, I Need You.
If any of you have seen the new animated Spider-Man series you’ll understand sorta why they made this Max/electro blue.
That's the last we saw Dr. Kafka (from Amazing Spider Man 2; 2014 movie), and we will never see him again.
PUT THAT DAMN SERVICE DOWN ISABELLA!!!
2:01 best part
Electro theme is the BEST
Dr kafka definitely drowned after the machine put him in the water
no! really? lmao
Ouch
Who else is rewatching all the best Spider-Man scenes before No Way Home drop
No matter the universe and continuity, Harry Osborn would always find a reason to be an asshole to Spider-Man.
I think The Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon series version of Harry was the only time he wasn’t an ahole to Peter/Spider-Man. I wanna see that version portrayed on live film. Maybe in Tom Holland’s next trilogy.
Soundtrack for this movie was so good
Harry Osborn And Max Dillon/Electro.
Electro: You Wanna Be My Friend?
I really liked this Harry. He's just so Desperate. Who the hell made his hair look like Bully Maguire and looks like a Kid when he's 20 tho? I don't mind that but still.
2:25 whats with that smile??!
2012/14: Spiderman CGI better than 2020-22 Marvel CGI.
Change my mind
Harry broke Electro out of a maximum security prison.. with a TASER.
Electro and his abandonment issues.
They literally did electro better in tasm2 than no way home. Kevin feige literally said he liked electro a lot from tasm 2. Why tf did he change him so much???
Because fans wanted a comic-accurate Electro, and that's what we got
@@lexramstudios1386 tobey isn’t comic accurate and same with Tom. Fans never asked for a different electro. What are you on about? They changed electro for the sake of comic accurate hype and comedic relief. He wasn’t even electro anymore, he was just Jamie fox. Electro was one of the few really good things about tasm2 and they turned him into a joke.
2:01 Dr. Manhattan be like
How many times does Harry want Electro to repeat it
hey thats the guy from the equalizer, his voice is unmistakable
Dude!! My dad thought he was Leonardo dicaprio the first time, later I told him that it's Dane Dehaan.
This version of Harry is the Craigslist version of Leonardo dicaprio 90s era
This guy plays in the lost boys
Yeah this movie is actually great, I honestly don’t know how it gets this kind of reception.
It's ironic when your a marvel fan and a marauders fan.
Most see Peter and harry
We see Remus and Peter😂
Who else has a huge crush on Dane DeHaan?
TASM movies are a great example of why scripts/writing is the most important part of making a successful movie, because you can’t deny that the acting in these movies were A1, music almost always slapped, the camera work was beautiful, and the CGI/practical effects were balanced well but the movies still underperformed with the public because of the poor writing.
Also I love this scene, I’d argue this is the highlight of the movie outside the clock fight. Most people hate on Dehan’s version of Harry but this scene was really amazing acting from both Dehan and Foxx, Harry pleading for help with Max and telling him how he needs him, that he “sees him” which is all Max ever wanted from the people in his life.
I think what would have saved this film is if this was made into two films, with TASM 2 having Electro and Rhino going to prison by the end of it and in TASM 3 Harry busts Electro and the rest out to form the Sinister 6. I think the pacing would have worked more to better develop Max as a antagonist and to allow the audience to better understand Harry’s struggles with his declining health and his company/fathers shady business behind closed doors.
In my opinion the amazing spiderman cast is the best
1:18 He looks kinda like Arnold’s Mr. Freeze from that distance lol, anyways he looked pretty cool in this but I think it would be cooler if they would have gave him something similar to his look from No Way Home cuz he looked awesome in that movie.
This harry has to be my favorite harry of all time
I thought I just saw Leonardo DiCaprio on the thumbnail
I enjoyed the Andy g spider movies, wish he got to do a third one so that he has a trilogy.
5 years old me: my garden have a spider
My friend: 2:54
1:33 is so tense it’s ridiculous
It's like they tried to make the Avagadro a person
If Max wasn't some cartoon nerd before his transformation then this villain could've been really cool
Honestly. If they made him have actual motivation to be a villain and not just cuz he was jealous of Spidey having the spotlight he could have been good
You got a problem with nerds? Also, max was ignored by everyone, even his mother,(deleted scene) forgot it was his birthday. Nobody cared about him. To make things worse, they were calling him freak, when he was just confused on what happened to him. He meant no harm to anyone, until that sniper triggered him off. Society made him a villain.
@@xManAvenger that's literally how he becomes a villain in the comics, he was a huge fan of spiderman, and then he became his enemy for jealousy
Max represented the fanboys in the audience who hated this film.
THE AMAZING SPIDER MAN 2 MOVIE 2014 HERRY AND MEX
This was pretty brutal.
Electro’s voice damn
Electro Maybe Look Creepy In "The Amazing Spider-Man 2" But He Does Looks More Electric.
You wanna be my friend?😠⚡️
I thought we were already friends? 😁⚡️😯
I had a friend once.
It didn’t work out.
Yeah. Me too.
Then let’s go catch a spider.
Me: ooohhh That’s why they ship it I see it now
I really like this scene it's a great acting by this look alike of Leonardo DiCaprio guy.
Dane DeHaan.
Why does electros head look like you can squish his head so hard it can pop
0:43 what is that mimic??
Electro is the best villain in TASM2
He’s not dr Manhattan guys he’s not on another level
Maybe not the best superhero movie but the best score for a villain
2:02 WTF!!! doc manhattan?!!!
All these super heroes and villains look like frail middle schoolers these days 😅
Idkw but I really expected this man to come out the thing without pants since, yk. Energy don't got no pants.
Can’t wait to see electro again in no way home along with lizard!
Music gives excitement
He was quite cool
That's Lucien Carr from kill your darlings.
This gave some tears....
Those Team died an instant death.
is that you, Dr. Manhattan?
He's like dr Manhattan
Just without the unlimited power 😹
@@Cookiespackenthus and with pants lol