Friday Fretworks - Klon Centaur KTR: Worth the Hype?!
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- Опубліковано 22 бер 2018
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Guitar: Yamaha Revstar 502
Pedal: Klon KTR
Strings: Ernie Ball 11-56
Amp: Guitar Rig 5 / Logic Pro X
Key Bits:
0:00 - Intro/History of the Klon/KTR
9:50 - Jams!
@Odell Mateo Go for the manly types, huh ? Husky voice in your ear drives ya crazy, does it ? Surely theres a channel out there better suited for ya, unless of course you consider yourself more the the cupid/ Centaur type with a he-man fetish, and like the Klon porn along the way, in which case I won't spoil it for ya, you love archer you. Let them arrows f.f.fly and mind the speaker, loverboy. Don't get too carried away, your buddy might sneak in and surprise you into near sudden microtonal awareness. With it though, you cant enjoy it for a moment with your eyes all bugged and seeing gristle.
@Odell Mateo ?? Er, No comprendo. - Not how it works. I wrote it slow, as some read slow. Peruse more s l o w l y, that should make it clearer, and more discernable. There remains a wee bit more in the well of Klon Smack . Succint, aint me
Sure it's partially an individual's playing, and surely the quality of tone helps too. My old orange distortion pedal sounds like zingy crap. Now if you were needing some zing for the song, you can adjust the mount of bees buzzing in the pedal, turn the Buzz knob clockwise, it may have another term affixed to it. When the EJ violin-like tone is desired, lose the Bee Zinger pedal, and employ some real tube in a pedal type device, or a high dollar device such as this. The caption to the pedal, along with the price -is what it is. Anything thats been out for a while, in enough numbers to see the market drive up, (or down) - is highly likely to be a reflection of how many others feel about it. That lofty price might well be overly inflated, but the arrow is clearly up for this pedal.
Shite, in guitar pedals at least, doesn't inspire scores of clones.
If ya just wana chew on the gristle, and clearly some do, the $39,50 Throbbing gristle pedal is the device for you. Wrote that so slow, it took a while. Google gonna be searchin for the Throbbing Gristle pedal shortly. Hope its still 39 bucks, or Odell gonna need another explanation. Note* I own only the Boss DS 1 of all the pedals mentioned above. No one has gifted my a Klon through the mail, or influenced anything. Just me, attempting to steer Odell through any Throbbing gristle what might attack him, or converesly, urging prudence in using his own throbbing gristle to put some buzz, thus influencing another. Further, - it's not my genre. Moreover, I don't go for any of that M & M's either. No Leather teddies occupy my closet, don't wanna whip anybody - who the hell has time to tie somebody up anyway ?
Chris Buck, circa March 2018:
"I would never, in any circumstances, even if I was a multimillionaire, would spend as much as my car currently worth on a second-hand pedal"
Chris Buck, circa March 2021:
"I bought a Klon"
This video aged like fine milk.
😂
Beautiful playing. Love how lightly you can play and sounds so sweet and beautiful
I currently have a friend’s ktr on loan to check out. I was quickly able to match its tone with my MXR Sugar Drive, which was loosely based on the Klon. It doesn’t hurt that the Sugar Drive was designed by Jeorge Tripps. I did two tests- one into the clean channel, and one into the dirty channel of my Orange Rockerverb 50 Mkii. It was surprisingly easy to match the tones to where I couldn’t tell them apart while having my son switch between them while not looking. What a great era for gear
Such a great sound, both the pedal and guitar. Well played!
Great playing, mate! Everything sounded well thought out and matched the review well. My KTR is coming next week, this video made me even more excited.
Jesus, man. Your guitar work is incredible. So dynamic and uniquely melodic. I could listen all day. Reminds me of that Danish Pete guy from the Anderton's videos, but with more jazz flair.
Beautiful beautiful playing. Cheers
Great sounding pedal, and great playing as usual.
The pedal sounds good. The tonal centers you bring forth are fantastic!
I built one a couple years ago and for about a year i only used it for a clean boost with a little bit of gain. Which is still excellent and i highly recommend it but this past year ive been using it as you would a regular overdrive. I keep the gain about 3, tone varies on what my amp is set to, and the level is set to about 5. So the idea there is keeping it rather low and boosting the amp. But unlike a tube screamer its a really nice warm boost that still pushes your amp into the sweet spot but without all those extra mids or high end. For the longest time my favorite gain tones have been a warm marshall boosted with my TS9 that i modded for two optional bass boosts or boosted with the Brain May style treble booster i built. And "that tone" cover A LOT of ground but its all on the brighter side. I started to realize how much my rhythm playing and tone was suffering because i was taking away that warm full resonance and bass that is what makes a marshall a marshall. At first i didnt think you could get those sweet slightly compressed gain tones without a mid boost or treble boost or more gain at the amp of course. But like i said this last year ive been really happy to discover that you can get that same sorta sweet spot with a more "transparent boost" but with the klon its this really warm full wall of sound type of sweetness that is perfect for rhythm cause it wont get lost in a mix but it will also let other instruments come through also. I hate calling od's transparent BTW but i know by saying that anyone who owns a klon or another similar od will know what i mean. Anyways this might be obvious to some but i highly recommend trying to use your Klons and klon style pedals/clones as overdrive boosts rather than just clean boosts. It will take a little trial and error but the tones you can get are well worth the effort. Klons do excellent clean boosting but they can really do some amazing this on their own into a clean amp or with the settings a little lower into a slightly crunchy amp.
Hey Chris - another completely enjoyable video. The pedal sounds great to my ears. The thing is with your fabulous playing not sure I could dislike any pedal you are using. I mean that sincerely. Going to also check out the Centura.
Thank you James :) The Centura's fantastic. Can't recommend it enough!
Great Video Bro!!! Swell Tones and tasty playing!!! Thank you!!
Great video Chris! It's a phenomenal clean boost indeed, adds fantastic response and enchases the EQ. I found another great use for it by turning up the drive considerably and pushing it with another drive / boost (with gain on low and lots of volume) and it has an incredible high-gain and harmonically rich sound.
far out. what a player! you are an incredible guitarist
Awesome playing! Tone heaven!
That's some lovely playing right there sir. The KTR sounds great, although, as others have pointed out, with playing like that, who's going to dislike it!?
I love my KTR. It’s the only overdrive pedal on my board. I stopped using it as a clean “always on” boost and started using it as an overdrive. Sounds great! To everyone out there who has one, try it. You won’t be disappointed. Best.
The playing in this video is inspirational!
Great demo of a great pedal. Don't use a lot of heavy overdrive and this pedal just gets that hair of OD that I'm after in a really musical and transparent way. I love it. I have an EP boost, Zen Drive, an Xotic RC booster, which are all great, but the KTR is better. The only thing I've tried that I like more is the valve boost in my Fulltone Tube Tape Echo - which is incredible (and expensive!), but it's too big to lug around.... so now it's the KTR and El Capistan for me. Even with a great amp the KTR just pushes you up to another level. Once it's on you CAN'T turn it off.
Love your playing by the way. You have that magic touch that makes all your guitars sing. Interesting how playing with your thumb and fingers (no nails) gets you that great bloom in the picked notes. To be honest I can't think of that many guitarists whose touch I'd put above yours, and I just discovered your channel yesterday. Everybody really digs that tone (which is the kind of thing I go after but not so successfully :-) ) - it's really heartening to see so much love on here for the sound of a guy who has clearly put in the effort to play dynamically and melodically - and by and large cleanly - rather than relying on pyrotechnics or effects.
The KTR pedal has been my main drive pedal for a long time now. Fits like a glove
Great explanation. My mate got a KTR when they were first released and I was blown away buy it. Both as a clean boost and as a very amp-like overdrive. The sustain with apparently no compression was the thing that most impressed me. It does a similar thing to a TS in that respect but just sounds so much more open. :-)
money would be better spent on a better amp and less expensive pedals.
sounds amazing man ! you always inspire me to play went On a recent search for a klone myself and got the tumnus deluxe sounds awesome demands that you play well
Burnt Mcgurnt Ah, thank you man. I’ve not had chance to play the Tumnus yet but from what I’ve heard, they’re incredible!
That was great man. Beautiful playing always. I love the pedal too.
Great tone!
i have bought the ktr twice. sold my first one because of all the more or less negative reviews. however i have bought it again because i’m addicted to the sound. i love it. just to mention, that i have the ceriatone, the archer and others. the ktr is just super quiet and beautiful sounding with my old super.
I have a KTR in my audio path in the studio....it is always on clean boost...gain all the way off, tone at 6 level at 5 - 6.... love it in tandem with my Cornish G2.
I picked up my KTR last year and nabbed it from a friend for £200. It changed the whole sound of my board, the buffer is great and I can’t get enough of the boost/od tones from it. Works fantastically with my BD2 Waza Craft :)
Nice one Jack. I've been really intrigued to try the BD2 Waza Craft as I'm such a fan of the normal BD2. Any major differences?
Fantastic! Kind of difficult to judge the pedal from the player. He is quite good and understands the subtle vibes achieved without much overdrive. That being said I'm wondering if he makes the pedal sound better because he is skilled. Can't wait to try it out on my Strat.
Mate.
Your a sweet as picker brother.
Yes. Tone for days in that box but the real tone here is in your fingers.
Beautiful! Thank you for sharing.
Ps. 12:08 through 12:12 Right there sweeeeeeeet bit of hair on that sonic value.
Excellent.
I’m told YES.
Wow great video and just fantastic dynamics as usual ! - not that I could replicate 1% of this playing
but be great to see your fretwork a little more clearly perhaps - unfortunately behind KTR this time. 🙃
Also I have the Ceriatone Centura and just love it. Thx again for Posting another great FF !
Timjx __ Thank you very much. Sorry, the angle of filming wasn’t the greatest. I’ll have a play around with angles next time ☺️
Buck and Evans Hey thx Chris, im sure its not easy adjusting pedals, getting camera angles and ripping out those fabulous chops all at the same time ! 🤯😊
Would also love to see the magic happen on the fret board if possible! Thanks!
That was a seriously nice tone with the KTR and Guitar Rig 5! And boy does that 502 look (and sound) great - got a 420 myself and love it so much that I can't stop myself from having a noodle whenever I walk past it in my house 😂
Haha. Thank you. They're great guitars! This new black one is incredible. What colour is your 420?
Buck and Evans Black too, with a subtle sparkle - classy! 👌
Niiiice!
Congrats Mr. Evans ! Your sound is great. But the secret of your sound is mainly in your heart and in your hands :) Great playing ! Btw, did you tried ProAnalog Manticore ? From the demos that I've heard that is a very nice sounding Klon-type pedal... many people say it's the best Klon clone.
I use my Klon as a clean boost. I leave it on quite a lot. 👍
Hi, everybody, I play that device and it is fantastic, I think. For Heavy Stuff I have a Friedman OD device which blows all stuff off.
Sweet playing and your a lucky bugger with your new revstar. Still waiting on my vintage white 320 to go with my 502t and 620.
Nice! The 620 looks fantastic! How you finding the 320?
Buck and Evans havnt recieved it yet. Was due 2 weeks ago and now not available untill early may ☹️
your licks are sweet man!!
You could pick up any guitar, plugged in any pedal or amp and it would always sound exquisite. Cheers.
I bought mine in 2018 . It is the best overdrive pedal . The pedal is transparent . So when you play with a lite touch or a heavy hand it responds . This pedal replicates your dynamics while other OD pedal's don't . This pedal works great as a clean boost and if you are pushing your amp , this pedal is the best at boosting your driven sound . There are still KTR's on reverb for $600 ..... If you are searching and have the means BUY ONE . These will be selling for $1500 .
Yes, worth it
That guitar playing 😳
Great stuff here! Have you tried the Tumnus Deluxe yet and do you have a favorite Klon inspired pedal?
Just bought a KTR new at list price (not the scalping prices online... thanks Humbucker Music). Great pedal, different from the King of Tone or vintage TS9, and sounds wonderful hitting the front of a tube amp. I have to chuckle at Bill’s humor on the pedal’s graphics. Another thing he must laugh at is how people insist on using it sideways because the lettering goes that way, even though everything else on the pedal indicates it’s designed to be used with the knobs at the top. Hilarious. I don’t know Bill, but I like the way he thinks.
You have the story wrong. I heard this story directly from Josh Scott at JHS. Josh said he started making a Klon clone, and when Bill Finnegan found out about it Bill was PISSED. It's a long story, but Josh said out of respect for Bill he agreed to stop making them. Josh did say there was nothing legally holding him back, but as a pedal designer himself, he felt it was the right thing to do at the time. Josh said he promised Bill to not make another Klon clone until after Bill was done making them. Josh has held to his word and still hasn't made one even though Bill stopped making the pedals after the KTR. Although, Josh is contemplating starting production again on the Klon clone given the current condition of the market and flood of copies out there now.
I AGREE WITH JAMES, YOUR GREAT TOUCH WOULD MAKE PRETTY MUCH ANY PEDAL SOUND GOOD WITH THAT TECHNIQUE. I WONDER THOUGH HOW IT SOUNDS 'ROCKING' RATHER THAN FINGER PICKING LOVELY CHORD PROGRESSIONS, DOES IT MUDDY UP?
Damn fine playing. Not a bad pedal, either.
listen to Late Night by Foals
the solo at the end is all the Klon, its incredible
Top!!
Damn son, you're a great player. Kudos, and that Revstar has me greener than a tubescreamer :)
If you're on a budget and can find one, the Clone Central Centaur comes very close to the KTR. Shane from "In The Blues" did a comparison a while back. $98 from EBay, but it can be tricky to find a legit CC Centaur, as there are so many garbage clones that use the same gold box, font, artwork. An EHX Soul Food or Wampler Tummus will do the job, but they are a little different to the Klon, tonally, more like "inspired by" the K-circuit. Tummus has more gain and bottom end (and top, now that I think about it. Wider Q sweep, perhaps).
Ethics be damned, I bought the clone.
If I had the dough, I'd probably go with the KTR, it really is a fat clean boost. The Ceriatone is lovely. Makes me want to try one of their amps.
Cheers Matt, I'll have to check that Clone out. It's a weird one with the Klon - if it was still in production, I'd feel weird telling people to check out a clone but since it's out of production (and the originals fetch such silly money...) I guess it's the only option really. And definitely with you on wanting to try a Ceriatone amp! One day ;)
Buck and Evans
One day, indeed! I've got a Malaysian buddy who just moved back to KL and he may have an "in" with Nick at Ceriatone. Watch this space! Cheers, boyo! (I get the Welsh thing now, sorry for conflating your accent with those Oxbridge snobs in an earlier comment :p )
Chris, your playing is fantastic as usual! Could you please do a video soon explaining your Guitar Rig 5 setup? Or perhaps your thought process when setting it up? I'd love to be able to get similar feeling tones to my Ceriatone SSS when at 1am without killing my neighbours lol
Max Gauthier Cheers Max. And definitely; GuitarRig video coming soon! Jealous of the Ceriatone SSS, by the way! What’s it like?
Buck and Evans it's unreal lol. It's a super maleable amp. You can make it do a lot of things. With a full range overdrive and the mid cranked a bit high, you could easily play ACDC, but it works super well for John Mayer esque tones. It's a great pedal platform too. It's amazing to plugin everyday and go "ahh yes. That's the tone"
Haha. I'll have to give it a try! I've got a Fuchs Clean Machine which is similarly voiced I imagine, but there's no harm in looking ;)
Chris I have a new RevStar and can’t get the high E to go under the tailpiece and properly seat. Have you had this problem with yours and if so what’s the fix?
Is the EH Soul Food a good alternative? Klon cone apparently.
Have you had the opportunity to try the Mythos Mjolnir? I got their Deadalus which is based on the bluesbreaker pedal and it's awesome! I bet their recreation of the Klon would be pretty great too
I haven't actually, Stephen but I'm very intrigued! I'm doing Guitar Breaks with Ariel next month so hoping to try to try the Deadalus - from what I've heard, everything that Mythos make sounds pretty sweet! :)
Did you play actual songs during your jam or were you just free styling? Either way, smooth as fuck 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
The KTR is indeed worth the hype.
2019 and 2020 they're making them again. You can reserve one being made on Reverb. I did. I should get it in Aug 2021. It's now a Year waiting list. Was about 7 or 8 months but i guess more ppl found out about it.
hey there, where did you see the wait list? cant find it now
Which reverb are you using mate?
I have the Tumnus and the RimRock Lil MO (Mythical Overdrive). Both sound the same, but the Tumnus is more compressed/muffled, whereas the MO is wide open. I like them both, and sometimes stack them. I haven't tried the new Tumnus, don't really feel the need to really. Two Klones are enough for me. I use the Tumnus and MO for the slight overdrive the most. Seems kind of pointless not to use it for that, when it is in the pedals, but it depends on what I'm using it/them with in the signal chain. It can vary.
Great shout on the Mythical Overdrivfe, Stephen. I've been intrigued to try one for a while. I'll be on the lookout for one if it's good :)
Buck and Evans It is hard to describe the differences between the two. I can set both to the exact same settings and the MO is clear, whereas the Tumnus reacts like it is under a blanket. I did not notice this until I bought the MO and A/B'd them.
The Lil MO has a mini toggle to switch between the diods. The larger MO gives you options with diods, whereas the Lil Mo has only the stock ones. You can also have a custom MO (large sized) made as well, with a modest upcharge. Saving on pedal board real estate, I opted for the Lil MO.
I have a pretty large collection of pedals. Some are mass produced, but I actually like the one man handmade pedals just as much...such as RimRock, Big Knob, and Guitar Tech Craig. Basically clone pedal manufacturers, but true to the original analog designs, and at a very affordable price, here in the United States.
Just got a shiny new KTR. Yay! Eleven arrived at Deluxe guitars in Melbourne today, and they were all gone by the end of the day. Figure it's like the King of Tone: if I don't like it I can always sell it for more than I paid. But, after a few hours, I think its unlikely it'll go anytime soon...
Lmao bro I got one of those as well. The email hit my inbox and I purchased it straight away.
TK-421 lol! Had been calling the guys for weeks to find out where they were 😅 I’m loving it. You? So unique. Cuts like no pedal I’ve had.
Are the knobs Gain (bottom L), Treble (middle), Output (top R)?
Opposite, gain top.
Bill still builds them and you can bye a brand new Klon every now and again when he feels like making one on EBay.
Not sure that makes a difference at this point considering he sells them for as much as you can buy an original for. I mean...hes literally charging people $2600+ for a new pedal.
Twenty six hundred bucks. Sometimes more. Saw one that sold for over 3 grand.
What are the chords you play around 12th minute? It reminds me of a song but cant remember which one :).
little wing :)?
There are so many "Klons" (meaning clones or semi-clones) for sale these days at very reasonable prices, there is simply no need to spend so much for a used pedal.
you got to check out the RYRA klone. it's a hand built part for part reproduction of the original Klon. It sounds amazing, I can't imagine the original sounding any better. they are about $200 USD. cheers.
I bought one and am very pleased with it. Worth waiting for - they had a three month waiting list when I bought mine.
"Kindly remember
the ridiculous hype that affects so many is not of my making" - Bill Finnegan.
...but the retail price is.
The retail price is fine... It's the used market prices that are crazy. And that's of OUR making
I remember when I bought my KTR for like $250. Checked prices the other day and it's insane! $600 on average. Guess I should have kept mine!
You can get one for 480
@@supermanwhereareyounow3081 I've got a great drive XTS now that I like as much or more than my KTR I had but they are pretty special pedals! If I could get them back in $300 range again I'd probably pick one up
Have you seen them now? WTF
QUESTION
how do you record your guitar sound when making these videos? Thank you
I really enjoying your guitar sound. I think the thing I like about it the best is your use of a compressor
Hey. I use GuitarRig 5. I'll be doing a video on it soon :)
Buck and Evans thank you for the response , look forward to it.
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Dang dude. Any tips for how you get such a noiseless amp recording?
Andrew Weitz humbuckers help
Evan Crane I know lol, he’s using P90’s
When I used a Boogie, it was so gainy that my Klon was the only OD which sounded any good. My Wampler Euphoria and Fulltone Plimsoul were way to harsh for the Boogie. They work well with my Princeton though. 👍
It's frustrating to see the price on some of these pedals which cost dollars to build.. if interested we can custom build a klon for 250 where you can choose your enclosure color, style and color of knobs, LED and location of the jacks for pedalboard convenience. we use top quality components that have been tested and matched, all point to point. These prices especially for the original klon is a crime.
Do you know the "Barbarossa Gargoyle"? It would be awesome when you could copy that thing because I love this peda xD.
Do you folks have a website?
I searched your pedal company and it resulted in links to Reverb, Ebay and Pintrest.
Would love to check your company out.
Funny story: There are actually Kits on aliexpress so you can build your own klon for around 50 - 80 USD
Can you send a link or something?
Isn't a HYPE just check out the RYRA pedal If you looking for the perfect clean boost, Sparkle top end with killer harmonics jumping of your finger with much better overdrive than any KLON pedal, smaller in size at $200 price tag...The only down side is the ridiculous name given to this pedal....save $3000 and check out the RYRA Rock Your Repaired Amp boost pedal.
Worth the hype, but not the price.
delineate > disseminate
Got a Ceriatone Centura which is a Klon replica both inside and the enclosure. No point in going any further unless your have 2k burning a hole in your pocket.
NYC LP Player I’m with you on that. Love my Centura!
I forgot you did that comparison
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Too bad your left hand is covered up by the KTR’s big footprint😢
I don't think it is worth the hype and inflated price- I tried one and it was ok. I prefer less expensive OD pedals.
Worth the hype? What hype? The hype is around the original because people think these KTR's are different.
더럽게 말 많네.
this video didn't age well
That wasn't a joke on the front of the KTR. That's REAL. There was no joking behind that. He was dead SERIOUS. The hype around that pedal was not of his making. So don't be pissed at him because you can't buy one for less than $5k. He didn't do that. We did.
So where's the joke exactly? There's noting remotely funny about it. It wasn't said tongue-in-cheek. He was dead serious.
God, you talk forever.
bluelightproductions stop watching 😑
Personally I think you talked a bit much but your playing made up for it.
Next video . More playing less talk
I currently have a friend’s ktr on loan to check out. I was quickly able to match its tone with my MXR Sugar Drive, which was loosely based on the Klon. It doesn’t hurt that the Sugar Drive was designed by Jeorge Tripps. I did two tests- one into the clean channel, and one into the dirty channel of my Orange Rockerverb 50 Mkii. It was surprisingly easy to match the tones to where I couldn’t tell them apart while having my son switch between them while not looking. What a great era for gear.