Van Jones & Coleman Hughes discuss Trump’s appeal to some Black voters
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Gayle King, Charles Barkley, CNN analyst Van Jones and podcast host Coleman Hughes discuss former President Trump’s comments about his appeal to Black voters. #CNN #News
Van Jones: I was offended.
Everyone: Big surprise
its okay for some black people to be offended by what Trump said. we aren't a monolith. In as much as I admire and mostly align with conservatives I too was offended by that statement. Ofcourse if there was some other reason other than aligning criminality with black people I'd be willing to reconsider. But your statement is no different from leftist who believe we should all have the same opinion and reaction to things just cos were black.
@@smilechynwa I’m black but if you, him, or anyone else is offended or triggered by something as benign as this then I pity you because the world must be a debilitating place for you to exist within.
I appreciate your comment. My first thought was that anyone who feels offended first needs to check in with himself as to why they actually feel offended. Van Jones often gets offended and is not an honest journalist @@smilechynwa
he wanted to cry again for sure
I said the same thing in my mind 😂
"There's a poor people problem"....Amen. He nailed it
Why put him on there you should put a real black conservative that voted for Trump on there
Real conservatives don't vote for Trump
Real Black conservatives didn't vote for 45. They're not MAGA demons. They're real Republicans.
Because It's hard to find a smart one.
Girl, you're on CNN… wake up 😂
Fun fact, the youngest person in the room is the smartest and possibly the wisest. Van was stunned by his arguments, tried to come up with a rebuttal, but was unable. That is what happens when common sense gets into the room
That wasn't my sense at all. Van agreed with most or everything and just wanted to contribute to the discussion.
@@ManicMindTrick he had no choice but you could tell Van was search for a rebuttal. Van got shook when the young kid characterized the democrat party's message to black america as victimhood. You could see he was desperately looking for a counter but wound up conceding to the characterization.
Love how he squashed Van Jones weak social media argument by simply stating fact that most social media is used by liberals. lol. Man Van Jones looked like he was going to cry.
You people kill me when you conflate eloquence with intelligent and cogent arguments. You're just satiated that he agrees with your beliefs.
@@Wordalways you are wrong
Well for starters he didn’t try to replace them in their own cities.
@@UrMomboyfriend1 I was speaking of Biden’s immigration policy: let them in. And his numbers reflect that. 7.3 million allowed entry. And that’s the number they’re willing to give us.
Democrats don’t think that deep. If you aren’t white or aren’t able to grift your own minority then you aren’t shit to them. Doesn’t matter if you are black, brown, green, as long as you shut up and vote Democrat you’ll get your bread crumbs.
Message to you minority Dem voters: Your elite treat you like cattle. If they can dangle whatever they need to whip in you line they know you will. Stop being stupid….
That's not happening
@@stevenhenry5267 Of course it is and everyone knows it. These illegals are not being shipped to the areas where the elitists live but predominantly Black and Hispanic communities.
@@stevenhenry5267 Of course it is and everyone knows it. These migrants are not being shipped to the areas where the elitists live but predominantly Black and Hispanic communities.
EXCELLENT point! [Paraphrased] "You may not get what you want by voting but you sure can lose what you've got by not voting."
@grandcalia8988
*Fact: Young Black voters are not serious about politics, their motto is "I'm not my grandparents, I'm smarter
than they are"
* Young Black voters do not honor the struggles of their ancestors/elders, they don't look back at history, and don't consider those struggles as the pathway to their success today
* History will surely repeat itself especially if you observe the pushback by Conservatives toward any Black progress
All this wonderful illegal immigration will sure help us black folk.😂😂😂
Lose what?
What exactly do we have at present that is worth preserving?
What exactly do we have at present that is worth preserving?
Van Jones pro black but won’t date black women. Bruh
Many black men who hate black women hate their mothers and sisters.
And they really resent educated women.
That's his business and his choice. Bruh!
Finally a news program without a desk, sound effects, and sound bites!
you remember when van Jones cried over Joe biden winning??? lol
Yelp lol I remember
Coleman Hughes for the WIN!!!
Black men under 50 are moving to the republican. It is reckless that Van Jones think it is influenced by tiktok. Van Jones most blackmen are connecting to conservative values.
There's so much nonsense trying to split black people up. FBA vs non gba. Men vs women. It's everywhere. He's right. I hear the craziest shit when out.
😂
Which conservatives values do black ppl connect with, iyo?
Are all black ppl the same? It sounds like you're telling us they are. I doubt they are but it seems you want us to think that.
@lizliz4186 Democrats think all blacks are the same. Biden said, "You vote for Trump, you ain't black."
Please explain what diaper don has done to help anyone, including black people. I'll wait....
Love Coleman Hughes, hes a great young mind and definitely worth listening to
When a criminal is prosecuted, the people will support the state. But, when a person is criminalized to prevent him from running for president, people will see him as a victim.
Letitia James did targeted him from the time of her campaign.
It not just blk men under 30. Alot of blk men of all ages are becoming more conservative in their politics, and its a good thing.
They hate you.
@@cheechwizard6541 I don't fear hate, hate is an emotion. If im hated, then the problem isn't me its them.
@@qdubtru4522 If you’re joining an ideology of hatred, the problem most certainly IS with you too.
Yes because many people especially men respond to simplistic, aggressive, macho, right wing rhetoric
Conservative religious anti human rights bullshit is never a good thing. Are you assuming that your anti woke politics are automatically going to be inclusive to negros but not others?
The Right should stop being woke and make you slaves again? Or do you wanna cherry pick the parts of wokeness and secular left wing human rights that benefit you? If it was up to the Conservative right we'd still have kids working in mines and no abortion rights
Finally an intellect on CNN: Mr. Coleman 👍
Twump is unfairly persecuted?! Haha 😂
Twump is persecuted for committing crimes!!
Many young black men are making more money than before now taxes to them make a difference.Your money will not keep them out of jail when it comes to these judges.Trump is not the one.
Coleman Hughes is the smartest guy in the room, and everyone else is trying to debunk him.
I’m a black man, and I think the appeal for Trump is a variation of factors all happening at the same time. But the one I see as being a man. When I was younger, in my 20s&30s as a male my mindset was different. I think these young men watch these hero type action movies and games & they get caught up in the strong man, hero type character. So they look for that character in their real life. Trump may represent that to them, both black & white men. Social media is playing its role at the same time, and other variables that attract males to Trump. The females are typically attracted to the strong man, heroic type-they are following their men. As I got older I don’t really seek that action type figure anymore, because I’m more engaged to reality. Thank God, we didn’t have social media in my 20s. But some young black men are maybe drawn to Trump because they seek that superhero thug type character that fits their narrative. I noticed the young black & white men that do sway towards Trump have some type of criminal past or link to crime in some way, whether it’s past or present.
The most accurate comment on this thread !!
Excuses from the crybabies🤣. They’re just mad and butt-hurt cause Donnie is still not locked up and will win in November and they know it and won’t admit it😂😂😂
I am a young black person and I love Trump. I am a qualified CPA contributing to the economy and I have no criminal record or criminal past. STOP the lies.
@@simonmakota3628u can be intelligent & still have ur mind hijacked by a cult, have low integrity & become evil or a criminal. If you studied history & some psychology you'd know that hitler had evil followers who were scientists, engineers & interprenuers. Just like them, you have been DUPED by madness of a cult.
The appeal is the anti-establishment angle. No need for much anslysis on this. Its also applicable to non black demographics.
Then, why would you vote for Republican because the Republicans blocked all that you just said
Seeing the older people deny the analysis as to why younger black voters are voting for Trump is just an example of how blinded they are
We never discuss who white people vote for because like all people they are diverse, white liberals white conservatives. But black people are treated like children who are scolded to vote Democrat if they know what's good for them. Ironically by white liberals and other black folks.
State politics are important too! Off season (non-Presidential) voting are important too! Need learn that too! House and Senate need to be BLUE!
Coleman is correct, again.
As a right leaning independent- I always appreciate Van Jones ability to have conversations with the other side ✌🏾
And to cry a lot 😢
@@cc8751 Crying commie Van Jones. It was funny watching him and Maher get humiliated by Coulter two weeks ago.
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He admitted being a liar on a hidden camera. CNN is fake news.
@@cc8751😂 this is True
It would make better sense to have a Black Trump Supporter on the show to answer the questions!
Why can't Coleman run for President?!
This is so cringe, CNN put 4 black people to talk about this subject just to fit in
So would you rather have them put all white people to talk about it? Lol
@@ericrossoni No, it just forced
@@IHateEnglish10282 Is it? Make sense for black people to talk about black people lol
@@IHateEnglish10282 Lol how is it forced ?
@IHateEnglish10282 like when Trump PAYS blacks to show up to his rallies???
Can we get coleman to run for president please. Throw out the age requirement.
What boosts Trump's popularity is the press
Many black voters are wealthy and react the same way as most people. Greed is colorless, just selfish and indifferent to some harsh realities. Vote MAGA out!
Blacks for trump ❤2024 lets go!
What analyst? Why not just ask Black Trump voters?
This is why more black women vote then black Men!!!!!
There’s a reason this has only 100k views.
Funny how an NBA legend knows more than these so called "experts"
Van Jones lost my respect a few yrs ago. GALE is as white as they come. I have zero respect for her.
The dope that promises to punch a brother because of wearing a shirt that makes Barkley stupid?
Isn't this what the Republican party talking point in 2020, and they lost. Always pinning the black man the focus point for them to win. 🤨
Those policies did not pay, it was not his fault. At least he has tried, blame on the congress on the GOP.
This Coleman is a tricky guy. How can you tell me that things were not far better for blacks than Biden? You are completely wrong.
The high prices is hurting we blacks, and all races! Money mismanagement sending tens of billions to other countries is wrong! We blacks needs that money its our tax money he is sending!
Coleman Hughes is wrong on this one. Trump appeals to the undereducated and angry, regardless of race or ethnicity.
All three ppl are lying about the appeal of trump....I hope Barkley speaks truth
That Filipino black dude is need to be not on the show
He has Puerto Rican in him, and ancestors back to Thomas Jefferson I believe. He is one of the brightest young minds today.
If you vote all the Democrats out all over America you can make change
Van Jones: This victim narrative, that I continue to espouse and have done for years...
Van Jones: trump’s racist statement makes him presidential🙄
Am I crazy or was this an interesting, civilised debate between good faith people?
I agree with Van, especially going into the grocery store and spending a lot of money on very little food. Gas prices rises and people blamed things like that on the current President.
Except that the President doesn't control Gas or Food Prices the Free Market does.
@@xoxxobob61 I’m aware of that, however when people see the cost of living rises and it forces them to make life decisions through blame has to go somewhere.
At least Charles admits being blind.
Van Jones is a trip! He goes to such lengths to not take a side and offend anyone so he can seem reasonable. He says he is offended by 45' comments about Black people, yet praises him for bein "strong". 45 is not strong, he's an insecure bully who's learned how to say whatever he thinks will benefit him and thinks he is above the law. Van, please stop being so "both sides", it's embarrassing.
Rich black people who play victims.
Only Van jones and Gayle can see Donald Trumps heart no one else
They are pushing a narrative no matter what the truth is
His lying does not bother him wow.......that speaks alot about this man
So NOBODY asked Van, why these acts didn't pass?? Come on panel!!
Four idiots with no context or facts please have Roland Martin on to give real facts
All politicians lie. Which liar has the best policies, garners the most respect with our adversaries, and helps us lower the cost of living is what matters
Remember when Biden said You ain’t black if you do vote for him?
Coleman is a whole agent. There's a video of him saying that he is not Black, that he is Puerto Rican. He said that because Puerto Ricans don't have any political power that he was going to use Black American politics and guide it towards getting resources for Puerto Ricans. Coleman does not represent Black Americans.
Maybe just do a panel discussion with the group youre talking about 🤔. Not idiots, people who can clearly articulate their point. I appreciated this discussion.
DEMOCRAT▪︎TOTALLY TRUE❕️❗️
EVERY {4️⃣} YEARS~ Their glad-handing national "urban" neighborhoods tours •••
Biden isn't coked up .
REPARATIONS REPARATIONS REPARATIONS GET IT DONE
Always looking for handouts, right, illiterate?
Young adults can analyze. They don't need tic tk or insta for them to see they can't afford food, housing, a car. They can't save. Give them the credit they deserve.
wtf is Charles Barkley doing up there?
this is what CNN needs ....
The difference between older black men and younger black men... younger black are...... lost
So why are younger black voters lost?
Van jones not as smart after listening to him, this man said propaganda seating in a news room of the United states😂
Why you always talking about voting rights talking about the John Lewis voting rights of 60 years old I never had a problem with voting and I'm black
Powerful and intelligent discussion from a station i seldomly watch. Refreshing
What doesn’t offend Van Jones?
Dude says he’s not going to punch anyone in the face,lol as if!Love you Charles!
Why is Barkley lowering himself to do this show…. I know why…. $$$$
Trump's mugshot t-shirts would be perfect if it added 4 words "we came from TOILET'S"
@@stevebeegreat you admitted those bought and wearing that shirts came out from toilets...lol
Nobody saying the real thing the fight for majority power is what it’s about.
I like that we focus so much on the president as if there isn't two entire branches that we should also be holding accountable and scrutinizing for their actions.
Van it’s over for yall😂😂😂 Trump FJB
If you don't vote for him
Absolutely love this show. Interesting guests and engaging topic.
Coleman Hughes 😮 dude is on to something 🤔
Thank you Charles I like u today
Malcolm X "If you are not careful the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed. And loving the people who are doing the oppressing".
Truth.
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@@UrMomboyfriend1come back to this in Nov..... Snowflakes.
You might want to read what he said about liberals.
Absolutely true.
@@thedemencha147 Excuses from the crybabies🤣. They’re just mad and butt-hurt cause Donnie is still not locked up and will win in November and they know it and won’t admit it😂😂😂
This young man gotta be tired of people saying “young folk” are being manipulated by social media to the right 😂
he hit them back with majority of the young people on social media are liberals
they are right a lot of misinformation out there from russia and conservative groups.
That's ridiculous. TikTok is a brainwashing tool for wokeness. Before that it was Tumblr. Social media is influencing young people into a so-called "progressive" worldview that makes them all narcissists looking for ways they can op-in to victimhood because oppression gives people value in today's twisted "liberal" mind.
I love the way Coleman Hughes has to always say "I didn't vote for Trump nor would I" to be taken seriously on these platforms. This is the reason why there will be a lot of secret Trump voters in the black community.
Do you think that's a good thing for people to have to pass some anti-Trump litmus test to be allowed in the room?
@@DrAlexanderHamilton NO. That was his point, brother.
@@myninja0001 thanks, I reread it. You're right. That was the point.
Or maybe he doesn’t vote for Trump.
@@davido9080The point is that he feels the need to state it when on particular platforms
How amazing that this is considered a fringe opinion by cnn. Literally the most reasonable guy out there
Coleman Hughes is consistently the smartest person in the room and it actually interferes with other’s ability to have a constructive argument with him. He so carefully chooses his words while others don’t carefully listen.
Especially next to a lying chump like Van Jones!
white people love coleman hughes. he would never be an intellectual match in a debate for malcolm x, yet white people don't have the same passion for him. I find that curious lol
@@tgerard3860What is your point?
You must be white lol
Oh please 🙄
How do you have a discussion about the appeal of black voters without someone who has a sense of that appeal on the panel?
They are there to tell us what to think, not reporting in how we think.
Fake corrupt media
Exactly. Speculation and personal concepts 🙈
Very good point.
Blacks for Trump.
How is the economy better than it has ever been? Better for whom? Everything is more expensive and incomes for employees aren’t enough to buy basic things. Inflation is eroding the little savings most people have. San Francisco, New York and Los Angeles, just to mention few cities, are out of control with homelessness and stores are leaving because of thieves taking whatever they want without being punished. Let’s not forget the price of gas and rents. Crime is higher but they are not accounted for. This country is looking more and more like a developing country in South America. Corruption, poverty and chaos everywhere.
People seem to have a very short memory. There's a little thing called the pandemic that we went through that fanned the flames of the inflation. Inflation rates were considerably lower prior to the pandemic (when Trump was in office) and then started to drastically increase during the pandemic and afterwards. Biden came into office in 2021 as inflation was climbing, started peaking later and then declining. So, how can you claim that he was responsible for inflation when he inherited an inflationary situation?
Another culprit in the rise of inflation is corporate price gouging. Never one to let a chaotic situation go to waste, companies increased their prices and blamed a large portion of that increase on inflation. It's supply and demand. When people couldn't get things because everything waa shut down and the supply chain was disrupted, prices went up. As we came out of the pandemic, demand increased, but supply was low. As things have somewhat stabilized, some prices went down, but not back to their pre-COVID levels, while others continued to rise. And you say that this is Biden's fault?
And as far as gas prices are concerned, the president has no substantial control over gas prices. It's the oil companies that determine that. Rest assured the oil and gas companies were going to ger back well over what they lost when far fewer people were driving during the pandemic. The US now pumps at least as much oil, if not more, than Saudia Arabia.
Acknowledging these things doesn't make me a Biden fan, but it makes me a realistic. Trump inherited a great economy that had been moving upwards since the Great Recession. Biden inherited an economy that had been rocked by the pandemic and was going down.
I wonder if they were offended when Biden says if you don't vote for me you're not black?
you CAN workout the "DIFFERENCES" whether you are a republican, a democrat, an independent, black, white, brown, or yellow. but you CAN'T workout the "LIES".
I'm so glad I can think critically.
Barkley needs to stick to subway commercials 😊
But he speaks the truth
Straight facts
I really appreciate how Van Jones had respect for Coleman Hughes and didn't attach his character like SUNNY HOSTIN did - that was so disgraceful. Clearly this man is intelligent and has a story to tell via research and personal experience.
Sunny Hostin wiped the floor with his delusional retort and saw right through his nonsense.
@Katherinemiller proofread your comments especially when trying to defend anyone that gets their ass handed to them. Ya just look dumb when ya don't.
Van Jones is proud of him but he still can’t see why Coleman is resonating with so many people because Jones is so blinded and brainwashed
Sunny Hostin wiped the floor with him? Amazing what people will convince themselves of based on their ideology. Sunny Hostin looked like a fool. She wasn't interested in a conversation. She was interested only in trying to ambush and "own" him and in did so without realizing that he is more informed tham she is. The moment she said she's friends with MLK's daughter was the moment she lost the argument she was so hell bent on having. It's the equivalent of saying "I'm friends with Conan O'Brien" as evidence that I am funny too.
I noticed it too, this should be an example of how to have a conversation on these sensitive topics. Sadly, no brings up the character assassination if the guest is white. I feel we need to break that taboo and stand up for ourselves too. Van also made a great point about the Appalachian vote situation. Overall, enjoyed the conversation. 🩷
This was a very interesting conversation. I loved Van Jones’ comment about the importance of voting. His message was ‘You may not get everything you want but you can sure lose what you have now’.
Just more scare tactics. A lot of these sanctuary cities have democratic black governors and guess what, things that improvissh black and brown communities were asking for but denied are now being giving to the immigrants that democrats and open borders let in. Found 53 million out of thin air to give to the immigrants but won’t help give the homeless anything
👏👏👏👏
What poorer black voters have now is about 10 million migrants who will take low wage or unskilled jobs, and more social services from them. Who has allowed millions of migrants in the last few years?
@@anneb889 do you realize the same migraines that you were complaining about are the ones that keep the country going. You do realize that it is these big companies that are hiring them and you don’t see Republicans going after the companies do you? I wonder why?
@@jessplays32so migrants are the current era slaves? Does that mean, by extension, the Democratic Party are slave traders…again?
This was actually an interesting discussion thanks to Coleman. I would watch CNN if there were more of this.
What is wrong with you, America?
1. Mr. 28 yr. old guy, you are a positive force. Please continue. 2. What policies have Republicans passed that actually helped black communities? 3. Democratic strategists need to listen to this conversation.
Black unemployment was at an historic low under Trump. What policies (other than handouts) have the Dems passed that HELP blacks?
None!
@@jamesfayne108I don't know what community you live in and me being a black woman he has never helped me I'm going to use my right mind that God has gave me and I will vote blue!!!!
Why don't you name what Chump has done for Black people bc I already know your gonna be silent or wrong.
Remain in Mexico which Biden rescinded. So now we have a migrant crisis breaking the social safety net in our cities and driving down wages of working class black americans.
GOP is for school choice which allows high achieving minority students to escape under performing public schools. Democrats are dead set against this since they rely on teachers unions for political patronage.
Economic Opportunity zones which grant tax breaks/deferments to business that invest in poor and predominantly black inner city areas.
But vote for Biden or you aint black!
Why didn't they actually get a Black Conservative to discuss this?
Mr. Hughes is a black conservative.
He’s an independent yall stay trynna put people in a box
@@ks17 Not true. What Mr. Hughes paints himself as and what he actually does is two different things. Mr. Hughes feigns independence often depending on the audience he's in front of as he knows he will automatically be discredited under the traditional black conservative label. However, on almost every position of importance, in particular in any of the major culture wars issues, it comes down staunchly on the conservative positions. His primary mentors are preeminent black conservatives Glenn Loury and John McWhorter. Not sure if you listened to his latest hip hop album COLDXMAN, in particular his song "Blasphemy," but his lyrics are staunchly conservative. You might want to research him a bit more. Nonetheless, I'm a huge fan of Coleman Hughes fan although I disagree with him on a few things. I might be debating him on a future podcast soon on the topic of reparations.
@@DrAlexanderHamilton I will look
Into him further thank you. I am so tired of black conservatives preying on our dissatisfaction with the Democratic Party to support their conservative movements. White conservatives use black conservatives to highlight everything wrong with black people but they never solve any issues for us. We as black people shouldn’t have allegiance to any party
He never voted Republican but is Republican?
Immigration is another reason that black men- especially working class black men- are frustrated with the Democratic Party. Of course, they’d be voting against their own interests, but many consider the fact that they’ve struggled (historically) for resources, while immigrants can be readily supplied with resources As soon as they arrive.
These are not my views- but I’ve heard men complain openly about this issue. This is particularly true with housing and food security.
I agree completely. I've heard this as well
Our jobs aren't being taken by migrants, so no it's not an issue. What "you heard" is bullshit.
Those are the complaints of the homeless about the distribution of state and government funds, absolutely nothing to do with race.
What things do immigrants get that black voters do not? Not what you have heard but actual facts.
Excuses from the crybabies🤣. They’re just mad and butt-hurt cause Donnie is still not locked up and will win in November and they know it and won’t admit it😂😂😂
If you have a house that won't pass anything. And do you want things to get much worse?
😂😂
If you have a dementia president violating the oath he took which is treason, destroying the nation, creating record inflation, sending billions of tax dollars to other countries, can’t read a teleprompter, van have a coherent thought, can things get any worse?
That was the point Van Jones made eloquently. Voting is not just about getting more things you want but about ensuring you keep what you have. ‘Defensive’ voting was the term he used.