The thing about a lie detector test, someone could be telling the truth, and the test can show them as lying. Someone can be lying, and the test can show they are telling the truth. Don't believe that crap that the poly graph examiner says. I actually of, at minimum, to people who have taken the test and the one that was being truthful, the test showed he was lying. The one that was lying the test showed he was telling the truth, and this I know for a FACT. So, people who take these test set themselves up. There are people that are trained on how to bear these test as well.
Those lie detector tests are not always true so it is really not reliable at all. My stepfather passed a lie detector test. He did sexually abuse me. But because he passed the test and people called me all kind of names, we all didn't learn that he actually raped my sister until she was a grown adult because she saw what happened to me and she was scared to speak up at the time.
the man was sexually assaulted by the mother, and she got all up in arms over instagram flirting, yet she brought a man into their house and comitted the ultimate betrayal by sleeping with another man in their family home! Their kids couldve seen that! Karamo wouldve never dismissed a women if she said she was sexually assaulted by her husbands father... This episode was just embarassing
I agree, people need to call out his show on this matter. What she did was low down, a woman doesn’t drop her moral standards because of what someone else did to them. She should have divorced him and let both of them move on. If she so tired over a 14 year time period, why didn’t you leave.
First episode: Girl nobody can make you break your marital vowels. And the fact the show disregarded his sexual assault is appalling. Elmer you deserve better.
Lol you said vowels 😂 but thats besides the point what u said makes sense and yes the men always gets down played especially when they are getting beat on.. the ppl actually cheer at times smh
I'm here thinking... isn't he gonna remind them that regardless of what happens between them, they shouldn't stand in his way of being a dad to his kids... I feel for this dude
Lie detector can be falsified. If you tell yourself a lie enough it will become your true.. I know someone that passed many while on probation and was still using.
Our men need support to. They don't always know how to handle things properly, because they have very few examples..Alot of us are constantly in survival mode we haven't learned how to live and be
Karamo, you dropped 🫳 the whole ball with this show. You didn't help anyone here. You let the Mom come out and act a whole fool. The wife said she cheated in his bed, and you gave her a snap and a hand clap. You did nothing for that man but demean him and throw him away. Our black men go through enough without seeing things like this. He wasn't perfect, but you could have offered help. You threw that man out with the trash.
Yea I didn’t like that at all….What the wife did in the family bed could have gotten somebody killed….She’s a woman and a mother….Two wrongs don’t make it right‼️
I've never seen this show and Maury was a always a guilty pleasure so I was going to indulge, however reading your comment has turned me off to continue the video... At least some justice or resolve was had on Maury
Karamo should not ever tolerate any kind of cheating as an adviser damn to me this man deserves better he seems to have been sorrounded by toxic people I hope he finds peace and love so he doesn’t keep trying to find comfort in talking to other women
Or abuse from women he won't say shit but laugh...karamo is too feminine he always sides with the woman. If it was a woman saying that she was sexually assaulted he would have did a lie detector test
It's amazing how women always call other women out when they are doing wrong but men never hold other men accountable when they do they woman wrong. It can be a guy unalived his black wife or girlfriend and the brothas will still find fault in the deceased woman. I just thought its interesting when I always read the comments.
@@tonitwitty9529nahh you’re trying to change the subject she Was wrong and the show did not give him a chance and we can tell you don’t hold know woman accountable for there actions we can tell you only think it’s only man who do wrong and be wrong
That man deserves WAY better. Shame on Karamo for dismissing his sexual abuse, and for not making his wife take ANY accountability for her wrongdoings. All that man said was that he wanted her and his kids smh
@@veronicaanagbo1138because when it comes to relationships, he always sides with the woman. Because either the man is guilty of something, or the woman will play victim with the crocodile tears and deflection and he comes to their rescue.
This is exactly why men don't speak up. By dismissing what he said there is going to be another man who falls victim to the mother. The mother is a huge problem, and the daughter knows it. The mother is overbearing and controlling.
In the first episode idk if it was bad editing, rushed, something happened or something was said that didn’t make it on air, or just absolutely one sided, but it looks like Karamo had his mind already made up about this Man. I personally love Karamo as a person but the way he handled that situation was atrocious. That man said he was S.A’d (brushed under the rug), Guy said he was raised in a broken home with no father (That was not acknowledged) , guy accepted accountability for his actions and what he done to cause rifts in their marriage (Gets ignored). Wife cheats (oh well if wasn’t her fault). What happened to getting into the root of the issues? What happened to diving deep into the reason that they are the kind of person they are? What happened to holding them BOTH ACCOUNTABLE AND BOTH ACCEPTING THEIR FAULTS? Guy wasn’t no Angel but Like come on now Karamo you dropped the ball on that one.💯also the mom gives off bad vibes just saying ❌ episode just giving Blame The Man **weird**
I agree with your comment. There was great bias against the guy. When the guy, being upset, said, "I'm done with this," Karamo chimed in, saying, "Well, she was done with it first." Seems really petty that Karamo felt the need to say that and made it clear that he was siding against the guy. Anyway, the guy wasn't perfect, but concerning the wife, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Did you notice how the wife/daughter was sitting there pretending to be nice and sweet, then by the end, the mom (personality-wise) started coming out of the daughter's mouth? Also, I find it very troubling that there was no lie detector test done on the mom, and the fact that she wouldn't allow him to speak is greatly suspect. He could hardly get a full sentence out because everyone, including Karamo, kept interrupting. The way things went, I don't believe he was lying about the S.A. Also, if you look at the daughter's face when the mom said she would come to stay with her for two weeks, you'll see that the daughter doesn't want that because she is aware of the mom's toxicity, so I do believe the guy that her son wants nothing to do with her. I feel sad for the guy and the kids.
I love you Karamo but the first guy really needed justice. Yes he did his wrongs but you can hear it in his voice, you can see it in his face! He didn’t even get his side out properly, he’s always saying “listen” as well as he doesn’t know how to explain myself good enough. I believe him full 100% about being SA’d, that mother in law was acting up a little too much, especially because if i know to myself I didn’t do something I don’t care what the allegation is I’m not acting bothered to the point I’m making myself look guilty… imma be cool calm and collected! The man seems traumatized but thank GOD that woman wants a divorce he deserves some sort of peace!
This guy wants his family back because he saw that the wife was done. Sexually assaulted by mother in law he didn’t push that too much, he should’ve stand up when it happened and don’t let it go. He took his wife for a ride and she had enough!😢
This is the first time I really don’t agree with the Karamo show. I love you Karamo as well and it’s something about this episode. That’s really bothering me because I think that man is telling the truth.
They didnt let Elmer explain himself and the fact that the mother is making decisions for her nobody is thinkIng about how the kids are going to feel smh she stayed for 14 years and she cheats and what he did wasnt that bad smh this is insane yo
Karamo completely dismissed him the moment he walked on that stage. His mind was already made up. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the Karamo Show, but I don't feel like he was being fair to the guy.
He also NEVER got to the party. If he was sexually assaulted while he was drugged, and even if he was just passed out drunk, that is STILL sexual assault!!!! It's just as bad when it's perpetrated by a woman against a man!!!. I was definitely disappointed in this episode.
Imagine if the roles where reversed he would have ate the guy alive for what she did… his feminine energy is all about the woman no matter what when both were in the wrong… and there is no way he would have not dig into the party incident had that been a woman saying the same thing.. there would have been a lie detector
@@thehoneyeffectnot even, women say “it takes a lot for us to come to the point of cheating” or sum similar but for men to break emotional to the point of cryin WE reached PAST OUR BREAKING POINT. it's wild how overlooked means emotions are and that first video shows that
@@ForgottenCrimeStoriesI said the same thing, Kyana! Like...we're just going to downplay and disregard it as though we *ALL* didn't hear him say he was sexually assaulted by her mother?! That is just dismissive and cruel.
I don't believe his mother in law. She did it I believe this guy. Her mother marriage didn't work. Because she's in everyone's business but her own. Go play with your grandkids. Makes me sick 🤢
Come on Karamo, how can you down him for just talking to a woman on IG, yet you agreeing with her actually cheating on him with another man. They both had been through 14 yrs of abuse against each other but its okay for her to literally cheat on him and its wrong for him to talk to another woman on ig...that is not fair on all levels.....
I hope he feels some type of shame siding with those women. And to brush off SA like that? I didn’t like the first part of this episode. I literally stopped watching before the second part to make sure I wasn’t just overthinking things
This was utter bs. The first guy didn't even get a chance! He was interrupted, his allegations were ignored and he was just torn down. That mother of hers is something else. I don't believe a word she said. Second story: she definitely cheated. That's no doubt in my mind. She kept saying for HER stuff "that's in the past". Okay, then whatever he may have done is IN THE DAMN PAST. but.. na lets be a bish and make it about HER being wronged 🙄 he shoulda just left her. She's toxic as hell. She's abusive, destructive and off the wall. Run my man, run
If they divorce,she Gon look back and realize she messed up big time. N she lost a good one when it happens again with the next husband and her mama again😢...too bad..
there should be a lie detector test ....Karamo did not listen to both side honestly ...He had already made conclusion about Elmer before he met him .But it also seems obvious that their relationship is toxic .
He never stood a chance. All three , yes karamo too. They were all against him. Then he justifies her cheating. Bro let her go , go find you a GOOD woman.
Karamo- in the first segment, why did you dismiss dude alleged assault? I do believe something happened because the mom was saying there was no party but then the wife confirmed that there was one so dude wasn't lying about that. I think you need to bring him back on the show because I think it is more to that story. Maybe he got the ladies mixed up because he was drugged but surely something went down...ijs
@@Frosty0762 Just because Steve does it doesn’t mean Karamo’s show is set up to do it. Steve may have contracts in place with the guests of his show to protect the show. Y’all need to start using your brains instead of using a kiddie way of thinking that just because one does then another one should. This should be common sense. Come on now.
First, it sounds like he's from the DMV. I believe Elmer because you can see the trauma in his face. She's dead wrong. She should've just gotten the divorce. She cheated to hurt him, not because of anything else.
First episode: I'm surprised Karamo didn't offer any therapy for them even if they don't get back together. This would really benefit the children because now they're going to be co-parents.
What would really benefit the children? Dude is on drugs, the wife said he's controlling and has been cheating the entire 14 years. How in the world would dysfunction benefit the children? Because, they'll have a 2 parent household? That isn't a benefit with a parent that is controlling, cheats, and uses drugs. That is trauma. No counselor would approve of them staying together "for the kids.
The first episode the girl cheated, Karamo justified it The guy was sexually assaulted, Karamo ignored the allegations but if the tables were turned it would have been a different argument. I agree with popular comments Karamo put his feelings before his professional advice
Karamo failed the first segment. You need a lie detector and have them face the truth. Especially the gf who wants to leave but doesnt cause of whatever. She is not in the relationship. She made herself a placeholder
This man is so broken but he did not think that his behavior would have pushed the woman over the edge. They are both wrong and YES her mother is a whole problem and a half. I understand the mother wants better for her daughter but I do pray the guy she cheated with is not the dog with the bone issue. Not all that glitters is gold. And sex with a man does not mean you found your missing pieces. Honestly if she is done, she should fortify herself before she fortify her labido.
I will never let anyone keep me from my daughters !! Mom isnt trying hard enough to " save " her daughter like she says shes trying to do! 5:29 She needs to let him speak. 37:55 Of course she wants to put everything she did in the past 🤨 She's no better than him.
If a man doesn't give much of a reaction to when you say your done, that just proves he wasn't worth having around. This guy just shrugged off a 5 year relationship like it was nothing.
I disagree. He said they had been having that conversation for real. I just believe interrupting someone constantly as “K” did! And the mother did and the wife did. “K” listened to everyone but him. I don’t believe a man should put his hands on hee tho. I believe he admits he is wrong in many ways. I believe they might benefit by counseling before they divorce. Hee moma is way too mouthy for me. The sex thing seems possible because she fast talked and was so loud o er talking him. Gas lighting him.
@@vazyvas4712I never specified the type of reaction. If someone is emotionally invested in someone they'll give some type of reaction, even if it's subtle like the tone of there voice. This guy didn't give me any signs that he still has investment, he comes off as someone that stays just because he can't make up his mind to leave.
Karamo, I love you. But terrible job on that first story. You immediately took the side of the mother. The man has made very valid points and also said he was sexually assaulted. He was immediately dismissed. If the roles were reversed that would not have happened. If a girl made these accusations there would not have been “we need more facts” I’m sorry but this opportunity was missed. I hope he heals and feels seen. The wrong questions were asked and nothing was resolved. He just came on this show to be dismissed and embarrassed I feel bad for him. Hope he finds peace and finds someone who respects him. As a therapist you were influenced by the crowd cheers and strong personalities of the women and missed your opportunity to listen objectively. Love you Karamo. You’re not perfect but you have to learn from this
Give the mom a lie detector. He is the victim of a S assault & K would never be so dismissive toward a female claiming to have been S assaulted! Karamo drops the ball often just like the pink sauce lady segment the first time! Karamo full of ish, he lets his biases cloud his fairness & perspective too often. He must’ve took an online counseling course before this show because he isn’t impartial at all!!
15:48 he be hitting it on the NAIL! Everything I be feeling about these stories Karamo takes the words out of my mouth! Karamo has really good decrement and great come backs
Karamo made a good point in the second story. They keep trying to reset things despite all the damage both of them are done. There is no reset in relationship so is only repair and replace. Even if you do repair that doesn't mean you forget.
I really feel like at this point they disregarded his accusations from the very beginning and I don't appreciate it. This is the second time I've seen a Karamo show recently where he treated someone unfairly. I'm getting tired of it... And then he let the annoying ass mother stand there and flap her gums to no end, instead of giving him the respect and opportunity as to thoroughly hear his side fully. Karamo done pissed me off on this one... it don't make no damn sense to me, because I believe the guy, and I'm not the only one evidently...
This young lady is CRAZ!!! The big question I have is why was she in Jail???? Then she seems to be doing the same things she accusing him of doing!!! Busting the Moma car window out is a BIG No No!!! He should have been left her!!!
Black Men don’t cheat. Black boys may. The point of that quote is to say once a man has matured in his manhood he becomes and honest man of integrity. If he cheating he ain’t a man yet.
Naaaa the mama did it. She assaulted that man and then broke up her daughter's marriage! That's a sad sad shame. And in the end she said exactly why... she is convinced that man was like her x husband and she was wrong! That young lady will regret that decision to cheat and then leave her man. The mother need to get some business and mind it!
I thought it was strange that the mama compared herself and her relationship with her husband to her daughter and her husband. Like is that why you sexually assaulted him, since he remind you of your ex??? 👀
The second girl needs to be locked up for busting out his mother window's and she sitting there like it's cool and Kahomo ain't calling her out on her bullshit...
Guys can’t never take when they get cheated on especially after they done cheated and thought it was all sweet lmaooooo yessss sis love a good get back
Dismissing the sexual abuse is horrible. A lie detector test could’ve helped bring some truth to the light. This is the reason alot of men keep quiet of the sexual abuse they experience from women. The mother’s aggression tells me that something more happened that she doesn’t want to be revealed. She didn’t let that man speak at all. Two things were confirmed by the wife, there was a birthday party and she does have a key!
(10:15) How Karamo handled his allegations of sexual abuse is appalling. You would NEVER EVER said what you said if this was a woman. BELIEVE ALL WOMEN, but not BELIEVE ALL MEN! I get the message loud and clear. 😑😑
Half of the time Karamo is usually in the right, but sometimes he isn’t. It’s disturbing how he completely dismissed the first guy’s claim of being assaulted. He never did that with a woman, and Karamo’s excuse was that he didn’t have enough proof. SMH 🤦🏻♀️
This was a means bashing session. The second couple to me his girl didn't even take in to accountability that be deleted the app the day she was released and he had the app because of what he saw in her phone.
He wasn’t really cheating but he showed a weakness during her time in jail but he didn’t cheat. He entertained but I don’t think she’s going anywhere. Follow up please! I kinda like them as a couple.
Karamo need to redo this episode. The mother is definitely part of their issue
Real talk
Right wtf ?
This is why men dont speak up about sexual assualt. This man was completely dismissed
I can't believe Karamo did that, he has a pattern of dismissing men
I AGREEEEEEEE. messed up.
I agree went back to see if I missed it.
@@jahdestamuzik9145 Because he's gay and matriarcal
I actually like this show until just this episode. How can you dismiss this Man as if he doesn’t matter! I will not be watching again.
I’m usually team Karamo but that man was nervous and not once did Karamo try to comfort him!
Nore did we find out .. anything ... big mouth mama gona doom her child to be alone like her
Come out karamo act like he on their side that man is a good man
Did y’all not hear about the abuse or y’all 😮 crazy
BRING THEM BACK FOR A LIE DETECTOR TEST ! He needs to be heard
The thing about a lie detector test, someone could be telling the truth, and the test can show them as lying. Someone can be lying, and the test can show they are telling the truth. Don't believe that crap that the poly graph examiner says. I actually of, at minimum, to people who have taken the test and the one that was being truthful, the test showed he was lying. The one that was lying the test showed he was telling the truth, and this I know for a FACT. So, people who take these test set themselves up. There are people that are trained on how to bear these test as well.
I thought the same thing they should have done a test on set
@@carmen.juliana yeah he needs to be heard
He don't hold the women accountable because he want to be a woman
I don’t like how they wouldn’t let Elmer get his thoughts out. He couldn’t a full sentence out of his mouth.
In the first episode ALL of them needed a lie detector test... How you just breeze by a sexual assault allegation. 👀
I thought I was the only one who notice that.wow..guy didn't stand a chance...smh😮
Sadly because people don’t take men SA seriously
Mr k seldom supports hero men .... his lack of father is showing
Those lie detector tests are not always true so it is really not reliable at all. My stepfather passed a lie detector test. He did sexually abuse me. But because he passed the test and people called me all kind of names, we all didn't learn that he actually raped my sister until she was a grown adult because she saw what happened to me and she was scared to speak up at the time.
@@moquelocKaramo's lack of a father?
Steve Wilko should’ve interviewed the 1st guest - Everyone would've got a lie detector test.
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the man was sexually assaulted by the mother, and she got all up in arms over instagram flirting, yet she brought a man into their house and comitted the ultimate betrayal by sleeping with another man in their family home!
Their kids couldve seen that! Karamo wouldve never dismissed a women if she said she was sexually assaulted by her husbands father... This episode was just embarassing
I agree, people need to call out his show on this matter. What she did was low down, a woman doesn’t drop her moral standards because of what someone else did to them. She should have divorced him and let both of them move on. If she so tired over a 14 year time period, why didn’t you leave.
Embarrassing!!!
i agree
That mom is a lier' and she is not listening ' mom need to relax she to old for these conflict !!!!!!'
She got issues, including self esteem.. insecurities.. etc. All them hours getting ready & you still in doubt 😢
First episode: Girl nobody can make you break your marital vowels. And the fact the show disregarded his sexual assault is appalling. Elmer you deserve better.
Lol you said vowels 😂 but thats besides the point what u said makes sense and yes the men always gets down played especially when they are getting beat on.. the ppl actually cheer at times smh
I'm here thinking... isn't he gonna remind them that regardless of what happens between them, they shouldn't stand in his way of being a dad to his kids... I feel for this dude
He didn't, he just said that he doesn't have information (and time) to help him with this assault situation
You not Therapist stop trying to give people advice and breaking up people family send them to a Therapist
Girl shut your male identity butt down
This guy seems traumatized. We need to give them all lie detector tests.
I agree!
Lie detector can be falsified. If you tell yourself a lie enough it will become your true.. I know someone that passed many while on probation and was still using.
Our men need support to. They don't always know how to handle things properly, because they have very few examples..Alot of us are constantly in survival mode we haven't learned how to live and be
I know the mom would fail and he’s telling the truth. He was sexually assaulted and now just lost his family because his wife didn’t believe him. Sick
Yes all need lie detector test including her mother
Karamo, you dropped 🫳 the whole ball with this show. You didn't help anyone here. You let the Mom come out and act a whole fool. The wife said she cheated in his bed, and you gave her a snap and a hand clap. You did nothing for that man but demean him and throw him away. Our black men go through enough without seeing things like this. He wasn't perfect, but you could have offered help. You threw that man out with the trash.
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I’m disgusted with Karamo
Yea I didn’t like that at all….What the wife did in the family bed could have gotten somebody killed….She’s a woman and a mother….Two wrongs don’t make it right‼️
I've never seen this show and Maury was a always a guilty pleasure so I was going to indulge, however reading your comment has turned me off to continue the video... At least some justice or resolve was had on Maury
Yes he definitely not handling this particular show right 😢
I feel like the man in the first round did not get a fair break.
I hate how it was no lie detector test on the first episode like it’s weighing on my soul.
Right I wanna know if the mom did it or not
Facts! How that wasn't important for HER to know, confuses me...
100% agree.
If it had been a female it would have been a lie detector... disgusting
Yes I agree they need to go back for a test for some reason I believe he was telling the truth yes he need help but seems as though he wasnot lying
I don’t like how Karamo handled the first episode at all.
First episode: Girl nobody can make you break your marital vowels. And the fact the show disregarded his sexual assault is appalling
They should of went on Steve for all the right answers for the first part of the show
Absolutely
Agreed!
Right!
The way karamo handled this first episode was so disappointing 😢
Karamo should not ever tolerate any kind of cheating as an adviser damn to me this man deserves better he seems to have been sorrounded by toxic people I hope he finds peace and love so he doesn’t keep trying to find comfort in talking to other women
Or abuse from women he won't say shit but laugh...karamo is too feminine he always sides with the woman. If it was a woman saying that she was sexually assaulted he would have did a lie detector test
It's amazing how women always call other women out when they are doing wrong but men never hold other men accountable when they do they woman wrong. It can be a guy unalived his black wife or girlfriend and the brothas will still find fault in the deceased woman. I just thought its interesting when I always read the comments.
@@tonitwitty9529 unfortunately m not one to support wrong just coz it’s from a fellow woman I only say what I see
So, does that mean she is a wh**e as a mom and just won't admit it? What are her actions going to do to the children?
@@tonitwitty9529nahh you’re trying to change the subject she
Was wrong and the show did not give him a chance and we can tell you don’t hold know woman accountable for there actions we can tell you only think it’s only man who do wrong and be wrong
That man deserves WAY better. Shame on Karamo for dismissing his sexual abuse, and for not making his wife take ANY accountability for her wrongdoings. All that man said was that he wanted her and his kids smh
I agree with you
I don’t get him sometimes. I wonder why people go to him for help
@@veronicaanagbo1138because when it comes to relationships, he always sides with the woman. Because either the man is guilty of something, or the woman will play victim with the crocodile tears and deflection and he comes to their rescue.
@@veronicaanagbo1138he has broken more marriages than he has fixed, this episode sickened me
He uses percocet and doesn't work
This is exactly why men don't speak up. By dismissing what he said there is going to be another man who falls victim to the mother.
The mother is a huge problem, and the daughter knows it. The mother is overbearing and controlling.
In the first episode idk if it was bad editing, rushed, something happened or something was said that didn’t make it on air, or just absolutely one sided, but it looks like Karamo had his mind already made up about this Man. I personally love Karamo as a person but the way he handled that situation was atrocious. That man said he was S.A’d (brushed under the rug), Guy said he was raised in a broken home with no father (That was not acknowledged) , guy accepted accountability for his actions and what he done to cause rifts in their marriage (Gets ignored). Wife cheats (oh well if wasn’t her fault). What happened to getting into the root of the issues? What happened to diving deep into the reason that they are the kind of person they are? What happened to holding them BOTH ACCOUNTABLE AND BOTH ACCEPTING THEIR FAULTS? Guy wasn’t no Angel but Like come on now Karamo you dropped the ball on that one.💯also the mom gives off bad vibes just saying ❌ episode just giving Blame The Man **weird**
I agree with your comment. There was great bias against the guy. When the guy, being upset, said, "I'm done with this," Karamo chimed in, saying, "Well, she was done with it first." Seems really petty that Karamo felt the need to say that and made it clear that he was siding against the guy. Anyway, the guy wasn't perfect, but concerning the wife, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Did you notice how the wife/daughter was sitting there pretending to be nice and sweet, then by the end, the mom (personality-wise) started coming out of the daughter's mouth? Also, I find it very troubling that there was no lie detector test done on the mom, and the fact that she wouldn't allow him to speak is greatly suspect. He could hardly get a full sentence out because everyone, including Karamo, kept interrupting. The way things went, I don't believe he was lying about the S.A. Also, if you look at the daughter's face when the mom said she would come to stay with her for two weeks, you'll see that the daughter doesn't want that because she is aware of the mom's toxicity, so I do believe the guy that her son wants nothing to do with her. I feel sad for the guy and the kids.
Exactly and Thankyou!!!
so did Elmer get assaulted by the mom or not? I did not like how his allegation was disregarded smh , poor guy I hope he heals
I think the mom was trying to get rid of him before the truth came out...
I love you Karamo but the first guy really needed justice. Yes he did his wrongs but you can hear it in his voice, you can see it in his face! He didn’t even get his side out properly, he’s always saying “listen” as well as he doesn’t know how to explain myself good enough. I believe him full 100% about being SA’d, that mother in law was acting up a little too much, especially because if i know to myself I didn’t do something I don’t care what the allegation is I’m not acting bothered to the point I’m making myself look guilty… imma be cool calm and collected! The man seems traumatized but thank GOD that woman wants a divorce he deserves some sort of peace!
I definitely agree,that made me sad because I know that I’m not good at expressing myself and nobody seem to take the time and really listen to me.
This guy wants his family back because he saw that the wife was done. Sexually assaulted by mother in law he didn’t push that too much, he should’ve stand up when it happened and don’t let it go. He took his wife for a ride and she had enough!😢
This is the first time I really don’t agree with the Karamo show. I love you Karamo as well and it’s something about this episode. That’s really bothering me because I think that man is telling the truth.
Karamo did not help Elmer at all, he kept siding with the woman
His audience is mostly women… that’s where the money reside
BEcuz he gay and doesn't liek black men lol, he only dates white latino men.
@@ceriareid4135so if you going to do a show about calling people out and holding people accountable then just do that don’t pander to one side
Nah sorry but this is crazy! They completely disregarded that man and condoned her cheating! It’s disgusting and this is why Karamo is a damn joke!
I agree completely. Its agenda to break up families
They didnt let Elmer explain himself and the fact that the mother is making decisions for her nobody is thinkIng about how the kids are going to feel smh she stayed for 14 years and she cheats and what he did wasnt that bad smh this is insane yo
Agreed
Karamo completely dismissed him the moment he walked on that stage. His mind was already made up. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the Karamo Show, but I don't feel like he was being fair to the guy.
My thoughts exactly
Exactly
He also NEVER got to the party. If he was sexually assaulted while he was drugged, and even if he was just passed out drunk, that is STILL sexual assault!!!! It's just as bad when it's perpetrated by a woman against a man!!!. I was definitely disappointed in this episode.
Imagine if the roles where reversed he would have ate the guy alive for what she did… his feminine energy is all about the woman no matter what when both were in the wrong… and there is no way he would have not dig into the party incident had that been a woman saying the same thing.. there would have been a lie detector
That first case is wild. She’s dead wrong & is taking no accountability
And Karamo is encouraging it. 😭
I’m confused! If someone comes on the show claiming rape/abuse… no investigation???
You guys ever noticed that Karamo never comes down on women even when they are wrong on this show.
I’ve noticed, if he’s not careful he will lose followers and subscribers. He did not listen to the first man at all.
He wants to identify with women
True but the men are usually ridiculous
I noticed it too especially when it’s the guy taken advantage of by the woman I hated this episode
@@thehoneyeffectnot even, women say “it takes a lot for us to come to the point of cheating” or sum similar but for men to break emotional to the point of cryin WE reached PAST OUR BREAKING POINT. it's wild how overlooked means emotions are and that first video shows that
Karamo is a joke on the first episode. He is giving her every excuse and putting all the burden on his shoulders. She is ready to go so just go
And where's a lie detector test 😟. The man thinks he was sexual assaulted, like so we're just not gone find out 😢
@@ForgottenCrimeStoriesI said the same thing, Kyana! Like...we're just going to downplay and disregard it as though we *ALL* didn't hear him say he was sexually assaulted by her mother?! That is just dismissive and cruel.
@@thetaureanmisanthrope I definitely agree
No-one knows who's lying !!! In my opinion the mom acts shady the daughter should look deep before taking her mom's side
37:24
I don't believe his mother in law. She did it I believe this guy. Her mother marriage didn't work. Because she's in everyone's business but her own. Go play with your grandkids. Makes me sick 🤢
Come on Karamo, how can you down him for just talking to a woman on IG, yet you agreeing with her actually cheating on him with another man. They both had been through 14 yrs of abuse against each other but its okay for her to literally cheat on him and its wrong for him to talk to another woman on ig...that is not fair on all levels.....
I hope he feels some type of shame siding with those women. And to brush off SA like that? I didn’t like the first part of this episode. I literally stopped watching before the second part to make sure I wasn’t just overthinking things
This was utter bs. The first guy didn't even get a chance! He was interrupted, his allegations were ignored and he was just torn down. That mother of hers is something else. I don't believe a word she said.
Second story: she definitely cheated. That's no doubt in my mind. She kept saying for HER stuff "that's in the past". Okay, then whatever he may have done is IN THE DAMN PAST. but.. na lets be a bish and make it about HER being wronged 🙄 he shoulda just left her. She's toxic as hell. She's abusive, destructive and off the wall. Run my man, run
If they divorce,she Gon look back and realize she messed up big time. N she lost a good one when it happens again with the next husband and her mama again😢...too bad..
there should be a lie detector test ....Karamo did not listen to both side honestly ...He had already made conclusion about Elmer before he met him .But it also seems obvious that their relationship is toxic .
And thats what makes him a horrible host. Time and time again he shows that he can not be a neutral party and tr yto get to the facts.
That first episode was foul…. She isn’t any better than him.
He never stood a chance. All three , yes karamo too. They were all against him. Then he justifies her cheating. Bro let her go , go find you a GOOD woman.
Karamo- in the first segment, why did you dismiss dude alleged assault? I do believe something happened because the mom was saying there was no party but then the wife confirmed that there was one so dude wasn't lying about that. I think you need to bring him back on the show because I think it is more to that story. Maybe he got the ladies mixed up because he was drugged but surely something went down...ijs
For real. I am mad with how that episode went down. The mother seems very shadey & like she doesn’t have good intent for either of them…
Because there isn't any proof. Karamo isn't a court of law. And the mother in law could definitely sue the show for slander.
@@kingskidtvbrandivaSteve does it and there isn't proof sometimes. Like... Come on now
@iambrandivakingskid all you need us a test though
@@Frosty0762 Just because Steve does it doesn’t mean Karamo’s show is set up to do it. Steve may have contracts in place with the guests of his show to protect the show. Y’all need to start using your brains instead of using a kiddie way of thinking that just because one does then another one should. This should be common sense. Come on now.
Completely dismissing someone’s SA to talk about cheating is crazy. This is why men don’t speak up.
The fact that she disrespected his mother is enough to walk away.
First, it sounds like he's from the DMV. I believe Elmer because you can see the trauma in his face. She's dead wrong. She should've just gotten the divorce. She cheated to hurt him, not because of anything else.
Why the DMV?
@@bernadetteharris3399 his accent & lingo
@@delichagermany3128 oh! Okay, 😂
@@delichagermany3128Yup that’s what I said
First episode: I'm surprised Karamo didn't offer any therapy for them even if they don't get back together. This would really benefit the children because now they're going to be co-parents.
What would really benefit the children? Dude is on drugs, the wife said he's controlling and has been cheating the entire 14 years. How in the world would dysfunction benefit the children? Because, they'll have a 2 parent household?
That isn't a benefit with a parent that is controlling, cheats, and uses drugs. That is trauma.
No counselor would approve of them staying together "for the kids.
@@kingskidtvbrandivathey said "co-parent". 🤦 That doesn't mean they're together, that means they're separated.
Karamo failed him by not truly addressing the allegations! He definitely needs to depart from them and heal.
Get the mother in law out of your life !!!
I don't feel like they are being fair to him. They aren't listening to him, not even Karamo.
Give the MIL and him a lie detector to find the truth. How was the sexual assault just ignored? Come on Karamo!
She had another man in his bed and he's to blame for that too
The first episode the girl cheated, Karamo justified it
The guy was sexually assaulted, Karamo ignored the allegations but if the tables were turned it would have been a different argument. I agree with popular comments Karamo put his feelings before his professional advice
Why didn’t he give them a lie detector test they should have been given a lie detector test to all of them
I would never go on that show karamo just pick whatever side he want
Karamo failed the first segment. You need a lie detector and have them face the truth. Especially the gf who wants to leave but doesnt cause of whatever. She is not in the relationship. She made herself a placeholder
This man is so broken but he did not think that his behavior would have pushed the woman over the edge. They are both wrong and YES her mother is a whole problem and a half. I understand the mother wants better for her daughter but I do pray the guy she cheated with is not the dog with the bone issue. Not all that glitters is gold. And sex with a man does not mean you found your missing pieces. Honestly if she is done, she should fortify herself before she fortify her labido.
I will never let anyone keep me from my daughters !! Mom isnt trying hard enough to " save " her daughter like she says shes trying to do! 5:29 She needs to let him speak. 37:55 Of course she wants to put everything she did in the past 🤨 She's no better than him.
If a man doesn't give much of a reaction to when you say your done, that just proves he wasn't worth having around. This guy just shrugged off a 5 year relationship like it was nothing.
I disagree. He said they had been having that conversation for real. I just believe interrupting someone constantly as “K” did! And the mother did and the wife did. “K” listened to everyone but him.
I don’t believe a man should put his hands on hee tho. I believe he admits he is wrong in many ways. I believe they might benefit by counseling before they divorce. Hee moma is way too mouthy for me. The sex thing seems possible because she fast talked and was so loud o er talking him. Gas lighting him.
This is the only comment under this video with common logical sense.
That’s not true, emotional reactions are not just black and white.
@@vazyvas4712I never specified the type of reaction. If someone is emotionally invested in someone they'll give some type of reaction, even if it's subtle like the tone of there voice. This guy didn't give me any signs that he still has investment, he comes off as someone that stays just because he can't make up his mind to leave.
@@vazyvas4712 Now that’s not true. Emotions can be manipulated which means they are not black and white.
Karamo, I love you. But terrible job on that first story. You immediately took the side of the mother. The man has made very valid points and also said he was sexually assaulted. He was immediately dismissed. If the roles were reversed that would not have happened. If a girl made these accusations there would not have been “we need more facts” I’m sorry but this opportunity was missed. I hope he heals and feels seen. The wrong questions were asked and nothing was resolved. He just came on this show to be dismissed and embarrassed I feel bad for him. Hope he finds peace and finds someone who respects him. As a therapist you were influenced by the crowd cheers and strong personalities of the women and missed your opportunity to listen objectively. Love you Karamo. You’re not perfect but you have to learn from this
She shouldve left when she found out abt what he did
LaTara I fully understand....gurl keep ya happiness with the new guy!!!!
Cut him loose......it's over !!!❤❤❤❤❤❤
Nah, they got all of it wrong in that first segment 🤦🏽♂️
First couple - STRAIGHT from the DMV! Love my people and recognize our accent from a MILE you hear me! Lol #DMVSTANDUP #HOME ✨✨✨💪🏽💯
Moe yesss 😂😂😂 I was looking for this comment. I was like they either from pg or dc. I know my people 😂😂😂😂😂
@@billyhenry5860 LMAO big facts!!!! 💪🏽🤎💯
You know what… something about the first segment feels off… like give him a lie detector test. That mama has a weird aura about her. IDK 🤷🏾♀️
Give the mom a lie detector. He is the victim of a S assault & K would never be so dismissive toward a female claiming to have been S assaulted! Karamo drops the ball often just like the pink sauce lady segment the first time! Karamo full of ish, he lets his biases cloud his fairness & perspective too often. He must’ve took an online counseling course before this show because he isn’t impartial at all!!
15:48 he be hitting it on the NAIL! Everything I be feeling about these stories Karamo takes the words out of my mouth! Karamo has really good decrement and great come backs
Bless her ghetto heart. She is the one who stayed with him for 5 years unmarried. He better RUN!
Bless her ghetto heart 😂
Karamo made a good point in the second story. They keep trying to reset things despite all the damage both of them are done.
There is no reset in relationship so is only repair and replace. Even if you do repair that doesn't mean you forget.
"I love you slim" 😂😂😂 yeahh they from DC or Murrland ❤
I just made that comment and found yours after😂😂
@@ImaniNewbill 😂 Ayee
Baltimore murrland 😂
He never hold women accountable for infidelity
I really feel like at this point they disregarded his accusations from the very beginning and I don't appreciate it. This is the second time I've seen a Karamo show recently where he treated someone unfairly. I'm getting tired of it... And then he let the annoying ass mother stand there and flap her gums to no end, instead of giving him the respect and opportunity as to thoroughly hear his side fully. Karamo done pissed me off on this one... it don't make no damn sense to me, because I believe the guy, and I'm not the only one evidently...
She bussin’ windows out the car??? Is that you, Jazmine Sullivan?!?!?
The guy wasn’t treated fairly and mom has much in put
Love this the fact she disrespectful his mother is enough to walk away made me cry 😭😭😭😭
This young lady is CRAZ!!! The big question I have is why was she in Jail???? Then she seems to be doing the same things she accusing him of doing!!!
Busting the Moma car window out is a BIG No No!!! He should have been left her!!!
When a man hides his phone that tells you he is cheating. Leave him alone. He has no respect for you.
I hope Elmer is looking in these comments & seeing how much love he is getting 💔
She gotta stop being destructive, aint nobody want anyone who busted out windows! Trust can be rebuilt, stay out of jail 😊
baby when he said well she done first I screamed !
Black Men don’t cheat. Black boys may. The point of that quote is to say once a man has matured in his manhood he becomes and honest man of integrity. If he cheating he ain’t a man yet.
You said that!
NO MAN WILL HAV A SAFE SPACE ON THIS SHOW!!!!💯 The pandering to women is sickening!!!!
You could of gave the mom and husband a test
The mother is somthing else, she is a piece of work ugh everything about her speaks volunms😮
YOU ARE WRONG FOR NOT HOLDING HER ACCOUNTABLE. YOU OR HER MOTHER CANT LOOK DOWN ON THAT HUSBAND WHEN THE WIFE HAS COMMITTED ADULTERY.
I luv how Karamo acts like he’s surprised when where is a ping 😂😭 and I’m right there with him surprised cause who knows what’s about to happen
Naaaa the mama did it. She assaulted that man and then broke up her daughter's marriage! That's a sad sad shame. And in the end she said exactly why... she is convinced that man was like her x husband and she was wrong! That young lady will regret that decision to cheat and then leave her man. The mother need to get some business and mind it!
I thought it was strange that the mama compared herself and her relationship with her husband to her daughter and her husband. Like is that why you sexually assaulted him, since he remind you of your ex??? 👀
The second girl needs to be locked up for busting out his mother window's and she sitting there like it's cool and Kahomo ain't calling her out on her bullshit...
So they just dismissed the fact that he was sexually assaulted?
🙏🏽 for all involved in this situation.
Look like mother in-law ruined they marriage
That's exactly me, Did I just tell you??? 😂😂😂
Dude move on. This girl any worth it
You got that right you can't delete deceit!
Guys can’t never take when they get cheated on especially after they done cheated and thought it was all sweet lmaooooo yessss sis love a good get back
On the second one WHY unlock his phone if you already know this? Never let a man show you more than once they don't want you 💯
She need to keep her mom out her business
Dismissing the sexual abuse is horrible. A lie detector test could’ve helped bring some truth to the light. This is the reason alot of men keep quiet of the sexual abuse they experience from women. The mother’s aggression tells me that something more happened that she doesn’t want to be revealed. She didn’t let that man speak at all. Two things were confirmed by the wife, there was a birthday party and she does have a key!
(10:15) How Karamo handled his allegations of sexual abuse is appalling. You would NEVER EVER said what you said if this was a woman. BELIEVE ALL WOMEN, but not BELIEVE ALL MEN! I get the message loud and clear. 😑😑
That's good. Much respect to the man. I ain't have a father in my life either but I'm a great mom. I refuse to neglect my kids
Half of the time Karamo is usually in the right, but sometimes he isn’t. It’s disturbing how he completely dismissed the first guy’s claim of being assaulted. He never did that with a woman, and Karamo’s excuse was that he didn’t have enough proof. SMH 🤦🏻♀️
Wow! Both guys are totally unaware of who they really are. Sad, really sad for those women. 💔💔
This was a means bashing session.
The second couple to me his girl didn't even take in to accountability that be deleted the app the day she was released and he had the app because of what he saw in her phone.
Elmer you deserve better..let that woman marry her mother...that mother is a homewrecker 😢😢
If this man says "at the end of the day ONE MORE TIME, I'm reaching through this phone and catch a case!!!!! 😂😂😂❤
He wasn’t really cheating but he showed a weakness during her time in jail but he didn’t cheat. He entertained but I don’t think she’s going anywhere. Follow up please! I kinda like them as a couple.