2020 Indian Chieftain Dark Horse 116! First impression from a Harley-Davidson Street Glide rider.
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- 2020 Indian Chieftain Dark Horse with the New 116! First impression from a Harley-Davidson Street Glide rider.
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I love that the Indian brand is making a solid comeback. I think Indian and Harley will motivate each other to stay on their toes and continue to put out quality dependable bikes.
I see what you mean but in all honesty, indian has never made a comeback, Indian from 1901 is dead, none of the founders or heirs are in that company now so indian today is a Polaris with a different name. It's a new team, I like the bike I think it looks pretty nice but it only does because it looks familiar, now this established in 1901 is a false advertisement because of what I said above, this is Polaris now not indian. And none of their bikes were built from the ground up, the were the victory counterparts just carried over, dont get me wrong like I said it is nice, but polaris should not have to make a video about how better their brand is over harley Davidson, when Harley doesnt insult anyones bike. Harley is been established since 1903 and never stopped production. It's easier now for every other motorcycle make to to come up with something because they have to ask themselves is what is it about harley that people like and how can we use it on our bikes. So in result you get this bike that is similar looking. Yeah I know you have to compete, but than what your left with is no originality of your own. I've own a honda sabre and a Yamaha vstar and yes I can see where it's a copycat of harley Davidson, I guess the first thing I noticed was the fake oil bag which instead is a battery cover and a toolbag storage, tools so in case, lol.
@@miguelsalgado4673 HD has been in production since 1903, but none of the original owners are around. Neither are their family members. Harley has been sold multiple times to save it from dissolving. Remember, it was once owned by AMF. Polaris bought the rights to the Indian Motorcycle name. It is no different than what the current owners of HD did, or the current owners of millions of other companies have done. As for the bike being similar to a RoadGlide, yes, it has a fixed faring. It has an aluminum frame, which HD RG does not, it has a water-cooled engine, which HD RG does not, it has a mono shock in the rear, while the RG has dual shocks, it has inverted shocks in the front, which HD does not. I could continue to outline the many differences in both, but the fact that it has a fixed fairing is what people will focus on. A fixed fairing, btw, was not something that HD created. It was something that other companies, such as Honda, used before them. So I guess what most people should say is that the Indian Challenger is copying a Goldwing.
@@jaimechavez4580 As far as I know HD was sold to AMF and bought back my management some time later. What's this "multiple times" thing? It is different because Indian was gone and until Polaris came along nobody ever made and Indian motorcycle, after it went out of production many years ago. People just threw a bunch of sourced parts together with an S&S engine.
@@allanmccullough8550 so in your assumption HD has been around since 1903 and a company that's only a few years old are crushing HD in sales and grabbing up all the younger riders? Does that hurt more or less?
Indian has always been better than Harley, my opinion
Indian is really stepping up their game. This is good for the entire industry, competition makes for better products. Indian just released the teaser on their PowerPlus motor, V-twin, water cooled, overhead cams, 4 valves per cylinder, 120hp. I am looking for a reason to stay with an American brand, hopefully this new motor does it. Thanks for posting.
I rode a Harley Street Glide(2018) and an Indian Chieftain(2019) back to back today. I was shocked by the very noticeable difference in comfort riding the Indian. The road was a bit bumpy and where the Harley caused me to wince due to my bad back, not once did I feel the same pain with the Indian. I literally returned on the Harley, and got right on the Indian - same exact road. Never mind the extra features and power, this alone was the selling point for me. Great bikes that they are putting thought and effort into building.
I think those are great bikes. I looked at buying one. I’m just a Harley guy but like all bikes. Great video man. Keep em up
“.... a nice looking motorcycle ....”? Bro’, this bike is a dream ......
Great unbiased review especially from a Harley rider. I love my 2018 heritage classic but also like to keep an open mind, there is plenty of road for us all 👍👍👍
I traded a Harley for an Indian once. Although it was a very nice ride my heart if for the Harley. I love my 2019 street glide.
A mate did the same, 8 months later back on the HD
I like the Indian motorcycle. The information system is made for old half blind guys, they have big buttons.
For me there isn't enough dealers. Breakdown somewhere and you may be a long distance from a dealer.
But Indian is a great bike.
Thanks for watching Larry, have a blessed day!
I was saying the same thing, very interested in the bike, but for that very reason and the fact they don't have used models below 2015 is why I'm going with HD
All I can say Tall is that we are ready for the stage 3 install😁....I’m getting my 19 street glide special stage 3 done over the winter, little cheaper labor rate during non riding season and they store it for free that way. Good video keep em coming, God bless from Ohio.
I have a Stage IV on my 18" RGS, completely changes the bike!
@@dipppincanuck Yeah you ain't kidding. I have the stage 4 on my 18 Street Glide. It's a beast!
Indian sure is in my sights
Its a good looking bike. Thanks for watching.
Rode one the other day. Lots of power. Great exhaust sound. It had a little hesitation somewhere between 3500 and 4000 rpm. Don’t know why that was - maybe not broken in.
Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching and the comment Herb
You make good videos man. I'm a Black Street Glide dude, but that Indian seems pretty cool.
New to your channel out of Nashville Tn....2020 road glide....keep doing your thing man.
Thanks for another great review 👍🏻 I definitely like the color and the looks of that Bike
Thank you for watching Charlie.
The fairing on this one looks leaps and bonds better than their current one that looks like an insect from the front. I really do like this new one and would consider buying it. Right now I'm going to keep riding my Harley Slim.
I rode mine to NH from NJ and back. I now have a RGS. ONLY cause i have never owed a Harley. But as far as planted they both feel the same to me. I’m 6ft 325 lbs and i slam them both in to sweepers and crush the throttle in a straight. I love them both considering getting another Indian to have both iconic names in the garage.
Nice Whip98 but you have a road glide, that’s the only bike anyone needs 😆
I got my 2019 Indian chieftain darkhhorse from that dealer
Same here brother. Love it.
The Indian just seems to float due to better suspension. The “planted” feeling is just the Harley not absorbing bumps like the Indian does.
Great review! Its an awesome looking ride! Be sure to do a review of the Challenger fixed fairing when it comes out.
That is exactly where I bought my Harley Davison from my iron 883 At the Harley Davidson shop
New subscriber, Thanks for the great content and being very informative helps potential buyers make sound decisions on there preference.
Like the look and electric windscreen, instrument panel and engine heat not so much. Hey just got wind of a new liquid cooled 108 Indian Challenger. Whoa......
Hey man, love your videos/reviews. Keep up the great work
Hi TT The bike not feel as planted to you because your not used to right side drive. This also makes the bike feel lighter because it is better balanced.
Thanks for the comment Mark.
Interesting!
Good review Tall! I like the Indian overall. I don’t like how the infotainment is pulled up over the tank...it’s too in-your-face. I’m a Harley Davidson guy and my Harley just feels good...feels like home. Have a blessed day!
Indian is on par with Harley-Davidson in every way from the durability and technology. The gear drive primary and ease of oil changes rival Harley’s 3 hole changes. Indian and Harley need liquid cooling to cool the motors down but oil and air will do if fins keep getting bigger.
And bro you need some taller handle bars by KSTcustoms like me, the 12 or 14 inch mayhem bars will do a tall dude like you some real good.
I own the 2019 Indian Chieftain, and just this past Saturday coming back from San Diego to the Inland Empire, my friends (Harley Riders) and I were all doing a 100 mph. My bike felt planted and stable and I could have gave the engine more. Just Saying....to each their own.
More than likely he's just not used to having a modern, comfortable suspension.
You need to bust down a twisty road, to get the full effect. Demo rode a few, three weeks ago.
Great video man!
Traveling tall your welcome !!!!!!
I agree with you on your points with this bike. Indian’s appear overly plastic in appearance and feel. Paint is another area where IMHO Indian does not hold par with HD. Indian has a water cooled 108CI with 122 hp and 128 ft lbs of torque which is going to get a bunch attention coming soon. Always been been satisfied with HD. Nothing’s perfect just perfect for me. Life’s short short, just buy the bike! Ride safe and ride often.
Road Glide ----> I own a 2020, Harley, Electra GlideStandard and the bags are plastic, the side covers are plastic, the chrome dash and gas cap is plastic, the inner faring is plastic, the cover behind the ignition switch is plastic, the chrome cover underneath the headlight is plastic and behind the turn signal is plastic, the turn signal ar plastic. The fit and overall fitness is much nicer on the Harley. The Fox mon-Shock gives a whole lot better ride than even a Harley Extra-glide because it has more suspension travel.
The riders view from the Harley seat looks a lot nicer. Its also a better looking motorcycle.
Nice bike,i ride a victory cct i know the indian is better built but i would of liked to hear about the shifting how it is comparing to harley or other touring bikes
Enjoy your content. New subscriber. You Sir Have A Blessed Day.
Harley's detail to their bikes stands out and they don't look like plastic, all I'm talking about is Harley
I love all kinds of bikes but that inner fering looks like jonny 5 very nice bike
That inner batwing fairing is wack. Harley street man all day. No sir on a Indian bike for me Tall.
You're the first to say, the bike isn't as planted on the highway. I tend to believe you because Harley haters refuse to give honest opinions.
Harley haters are hysterical! They hate on Harley but ride foriegn imitations of harleys.
@@igotthis449
News flash! Harley had stolen ideas from Indian in their earlier life. Not too mention that Japanese brands started the street bike or "standard" term before Harley or Indian. So...
Duane Howard
You and this guy are typical hog riders. Whining about foreign made bikes that are better than your Hardly American, I mean Harley Davidson bike.
Here's one thing you have to know...the rear shock is air adjustable...so if there was no air in the rear suspension, it WILL feel less planted. Once you get air in it, it's way less squirrelly than the touring Harleys. That's coming from renting an RG, SG and a Chieftain for 1,000+ mile rides.
I bought a new 2018 Chieftain after renting them all and I can tell you, riding home from the dealer eith no air in that rear shock was soft and bouncy. Put about 75 psi in that rear shock and 25+ over yellow sign speeds is very easy and planted.
In the end though, don't just trust anyone else's opinion...they aren't YOU. Go rent/ride one for a long trip and see for yourself.
I own a 2018 Chieftain Limited, the bike is solid on the highway, I respect your opinion but my experience is great with Indian. I owned HD before great bikes as well
I test rode all models at the Hot Springs Arkansas rally. Competition is a good thing but not trading my Harley anytime soon. Beautiful bikes but lacking for me to purchase one. The new engine and models they are releasing next week sound promising. Wonder if Sasquatches would be more intimidated from Indians than Harleys as not to step out in front of them. Keep that GoPro running while you ride and you may catch a glimpse of one crossing the road one day.
I've been a Harley rider /owner for years, traded in my 2016 ultra on a new Indian roadmaster and didn't even get to 5000 miles before taking a loss on getting rid of it... love hate relationship with the Indian.. to much to say of why but I was not happy..
You could say a few things as to why you didn't like it.
Great video!
Great Video Thanks 🙏🏿
I like some of the features but not enough to leave my SGS , the aluminum frame is a design feature I don’t care for and like you I prefer the way HD inner fairing is laid out , I am sure the 116 pulls great but max torque at 2900 rpm would take some getting used to, one final thought I would prefer the Indian head painted on the tank , just a few thoughts from a HD rider
I just found your channel as I am researching Indian bikes. Love your videos on the Chieftan reviews and started watching some of your HD vids and you definitely know how to put a video together.
That being said, have you checked out the Indian Challenger yet? I would love to see your review of one. Patrick from Maine
Please run and review the new Indian Challenger if you haven’t yet Thanks 😎
Like the color good looking bike but for me black is beautiful an there is nothing like my street glide that's just me great video tall god bless brother
Nice review, but I could tell your bias towards Harley. Instead of just talking about the motorcycle by itself you were doing a compare against your Harley.
Dude - that premis is literally in the title of the video...
Good stuff bud, liked the review.
Yo Tall! How tall are you? I'm 6'4" and I think your taller than me. I want this bike so knowing how it fit you gives me an idea if a new seat will be needed. Thanks ahead if time and ride safe bro.
That dash looks like a Kmart boom box from the 1980's
I wouldn't buy a factory bike that wasn't even painted. Primer doesn't cut it. can rattle can that at home. Indian builds their Ride Command in house with their own engineers. Indian needs to add that hill hold. It's not natural that Harley would have anything useful that Indian didn't have long before. Indian was always the innovator.
That almost sounds like your giving Harley-Davidson a comment. :) Thanks for watching Servicarrider
Subscribed! Because we are the same height and I like to see another tall persons opinion !
Never mind lol you answered the question in this video.
I do not like the aesthetic of the display, I much prefer the layout of your SG. The color and overall style is great, but I don't see enough to make it more compelling than the SG. The locking bags and electric windshield are very nice, but again not enough. I am glad to see Indian coming back strong, and definitely feel like they will keep Harley on their toes, or should at least. Thanks for sharing your thoughts TT, a redesign of that instrument panel (the housing, not the display itself, which looks great) would make this a strong alternative to the SG.
Good looking motorcycle..
Looks like a nice bike
Thanks for watching Darin.
you looked very cramped on that back. that info tainment system looks like wall-e from the movie. did you ever find out what was hanging out of the fender
Color is dope, was the bike clutchless shifter? Peace and hairgrease.
They got a whole new motor coming for 2020. Ground-up brand new.
Yep, suppose to be liquid cooled. Thanks for watching.
I heard it is a 108.
What's your next upgrade? Have you decided on handlebars yet?
TV cabinet is a great analogy! The design cues of the Indian immediately look dated. That’s my biggest issue with the design of the motorcycle; I’ve genuinely tried to love the Indian baggers, but they lack the timeless beauty a Harley Davidson has. Until the design team irons out those design flaws, I’ll stick with Harley. There’s a reason why HD motorcycles retain their value better than any other motorcycle manufacturer, this is another reason why.
Indian !!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for watching
It’s simple, more bike less money then HD.
Brian it’s 28,000 dollars for one of these, same as a street glide.
@@kylemoore9626
I think what Brian meant was that you have to shell more money to make a hog ride and perform better than in stock form. My cousin's Harley shakes like it's gonna fall apart. Lol
Shark, I paid $25,900 for my new 19 Chieftain at dealer. Friend paid 29,000 for SG both factory. Plus it has major out of the box must haves that HD doesn’t. Led lights, retractable windshield, auto/remote locking bags, three ride modes, rear cylinder deactivation, far better sound and infotainment system, Fox adjustable air Suspension. Just superior all the way to HD h as hands down.
Hit em with that E40 ,oooooooooo
They MUST change the buttons below the Nav screen. I swear it looks like a Fisher-Price toy.
The color reminds me of the HD industrial gray denim paint color.
I have the 2021.
Good job
Different fairings will move the air differently.
There is no way to fight Harley Davidson.
They tried to make there own street glide
How was those brakes, stopping radius?
First comment here 🇺🇸🤘🏻
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What the purchase price for that bike? Compared to what I paid for my Street Glide?
*what is the
@@Sig721Tau what's. Nazi.
They're close in price. I think the Chieftain retails a few thousand higher. But offers things like keyless entry saddle bags and the power operated windscreen plus rider modes that aren't yet available in the Harley.
So you've ridden the Harleys with the 114 in them what's your take comparing the 2 ? So what's new with the Ride Command ?
It didn't notice any more power. I wonder what rpm does the max torque comes in at? I'd like to see a Dyno run to see it.
Traveling Tall The Indians torque peak is 126 @ 2900 RPM the Harley 114 is 123 @.3000 RPM so not enough to really tell the difference,
Vaya con Dios
Harley needs to wake up , Indian give's so much more for the same or even less money , better display , better tech , more standard stuff .
Indians always look bulky compared to a road king, road/street glide I've never road one but love my road glide and when i had a road king, always want to ride an indian but not very many dealers in the area
My thoughts - Harley dash looks better quality.
I would take that over the Street Glide.
Will you be trading in the Street Glide for one??
Question:
Is the new Cheiftain liquid cooled like the Challenger...it makes a different!!!
No, no it is not. The 108 Power Plus is currently in the Challenger only. Expect to see it propagated across the product line, however.
overe rated victory
Does it have Apple CarPlay?
Is it air or liquid cooled?
Air. The Challenger is liquid cooled.
Don't get me wrong it's a beautiful bike but it looks like a street glide
Why don’t you work as a Harley Salesmen Big T?
Listen, I've been a M/Cist, for 50 years. My PREVIOUS M/C, was a Dyna StreetBob.
The StreetBob, was My ONLY American M/C.(Don't tell TRUMP.)
I had 3 BMWs. I had 3 Triumphs. I had a Norton Commando 'S.' I had a BUNCH of Japanese Bikes.
I almost forgot, I had a FEW BSAs.
I have PARKINSON'S DISEASE.(NO BALANCE) My Dyna StreetBob, is SOLD & GONE to GERMANY.
(I LIKE THAT-I was in Germany, in THE ARMY, '74-'75.
I want TWO Indians. I want a "Challenger." I want a "Scout" of "Bobber" Trim.
John Spencer
Long Beach, Ca.
I see their sign says Victory, did they have any Victorys
No, not any more.
@@TravelingTall it sucks they stopped that production line
Pretty much. He just rode one. 😂😂😂
@@JOHNJCLARK agreed. I got one. love it
Sounds like a 80cc moped.
I ain't taking shots any where else , that's why I go with Harley when it comes to cruisers . Now my r1 does have plastic bit it's a different story in a different class
Like if you think Polaris needs to add sportbikes under the Polaris name? It'd be cool to atleast see a third American bike company.
Your knees are very close to handlebars
Too high tech!
beutyful bike for rich people 😢
yet honda and Yamaha will out run and out perform it all day
I ride Harley Davidsons ,,, don't know about the Indian it's ok ,, no disrespect they are not for me !!! Pooler/Sav Ga !!!!!!
Thanks for the comment Top Dogg
My thought is, they try so hard to copy Harley Davidson. If you want a bike, don’t buy a copycat, buy the original.
In my mind nothing is, or will, outdo a Harley. I am on my 5th Harley and absolutely love them. The reason for 5 since 2011 is because I put so many miles on them. I just can’t seem to get off of them. Indians might be a decent bike but come on, come up with your own design and stop copying Harley Davidson. This one here you’re just trying to copy the Harley Davidson Street Glide. That’s the problem I have with Indian motorcycles.
By that philosophy, did Harley copy Honda with the RG? Better question, did Harley copy Indian when it released it's first twin?
Sweet Baby Jesus, this is a tired, rhetorical, and ill-informed argument.
Have fun trying to put gas in that tank. 😂😂😂
It must be hard for you to do simple things like tie your shoe laces. Lol
I have a chieftain...and its simple, what are you getting at?
Look to me like someone want to covert to Indian.