Musical Segregation. They want to keep people in certain lanes. No one owns a genre of music. And if they did, the owner would be Black for Country music.
If a certain group originated the particular music, then they own it which includes they get recognized for it not the appropriators, benefit financially as to create generational wealth, etc.
How is Musical Segregation when there were already Actual Black Country Music artists who've been doing way before her! The reason why Country Music fans are accepting Beyonce, because she's not serious with this music! They see the game!
By the way last night I heard Beyoncé song on the country music radio stations. It was on a very very popular county music station that’s heard all over the state. I was so shocked. The DJ gave a good explanation as to why she thinks Beyoncé song should be played and why she was going to be the one to play it. Congratulations Beyoncé.
Jon B, Teena Marie, Bobby Caldwell, AWB (The Average White Band), KC and the Sunshine Band, Cyndi Lauper, George Michael, Tom Jones (my mother loved Tom), Lisa Stansfeild, The BEE GEES, The Beastie Boys, Eminem, Justin Timberlake, MADONNA, LADY GAGA, P!NK, so many more none MALINATED Artists that we played on Black Radio.
Beliefs can be different, but the facts will always be the same. He knows he just doesn't want a black American woman with the #1 country song in the world.
Her having the #1 country song in the world is the answer to Karen Hunter's question. Cuz Beyonce said it best, "Always stay gracious, best revenge is your paper." She's got that top chart position and there's nothing they can do about it except fume and seethe.
@@newhorizonsforfifty2833 But see here's what forgetting! She's only has the #1 song on the Billboard Hot Country Song Chart! Not the main Billboard Country Charts! The people that are steaming her songs, are Beyhive Fans! It not the Majority of the Country Music Fans! She doesn't have the #1 Country Song in the world!
Why tho? I dont like her music per se but come on now beyonce can do wtf she wants. She is....beyonce....her influence and talent is amazing!! I'm so glad she is doing this and breaking down barriers
@@Theinfamouskiki411 there was a time when Beyonce was over saturated. It actually turned a lot of people off. But they definitely have it in for her. I've had people tell me that Beyonce can't even sing lol
It seems that anything black is marketed to everybody! And it seems ok to copy us ALL the time. Our style, our dances, music but God forbid you take a yt person's "thing" they get touchy.
Taylor Swift was embraced in country and she’s from rich upper middle class suburb in PENNSYLVANIA Nobody batted an eye!!!!! Jelly Roll and Morgan Wallen ain’t country and they’re at the top of country charts and nobody bats an eye!
@tudormiller887 Mickey Guyton has also mentioned episodes of racism in her career because some folks will never accept people of color in country music.
@@tudormiller887the truth is not it would not be played. That woman has so many records that go unplayed. Also, can you name any other black country artist. That isn't Mickey Guyton, Darius Rucker, Kane Brown, Jimmie Allen or Charlie Crockett
Going a lil bit old school here when Lionel Richie was going through his country phase and working with Kenny Rodgers on a few songs, but there are many other examples as well. The song "Stuck On You" comes immediately to mind but there were some others during that time as well. The "Urban" stations have no problem playing songs regardless of the artist but this condition is not reciprocated.
In 1974, the Pointer Sisters released an album called 'That's a Plenty'. The songs represented many genres, including country. There was a song called 'Fairytale'. A country song. They won a Grammy for this song, and I believe they wrote it. I think they were the first black women to perform at Grand Ole Opry. Beyonce can sing anything she wants.
Sir! If that were true you not have Black Country Music Artists! The truth is Beyonce is not a true Country Music Artists! As soon as she finishes this album, she's moving to another Genre! White folks see the games she's playing!
All music is created by Black people, so Beyoncé isn’t crossing over into anything she’s going back to her roots. they steal things from us. Tell us we cannot participate in it and we keep sharing things with them so we deserve it. It’s the same thing with braids. It’s not just a hairstyle. It’s a culture and if we allow white women to wear it they’re going to steal it and say they created and we can’t wear it anymore as black. The whole entire history is like that and we’re still wondering.
Hmmm, i remember when Beyonce was on stage at the Country Music Awards, singing with the Dixie Chicks, when country singer Alan Jackson walked out of the show stating that "that ain't country", showing his a** towards the D Chicks and Beyonce..and you have current country singers "rapping" in their songs, remaking songs put out by Black artists(and getting awards for them), country stars who have passed over into the pop category and still remain on country charts like Taylor Swift, and people like Hootie of Hootie and the Blowfish, leaving the pop category and going country. There seems to be a blurring of the genres, where it seems like if you put a steel guitar in a song, that's automatically country.. Beyonce is from Houston Texas where she grew up listening to all kinds of music! And the instruments country musicians play are All. From. Africa.
I'm 60 and because of this controversy, I just found out that Kenny Rogers was born in Houston. Lived in the projects. Now, I wonder if Matthew and Tina Knowles knows his history and stories that circulate by word of mouth that the general public doesn't know? He was chided for straddling the pop line, but is cemented as " Country ". Destiny's Child hit in the 80's. I bet you a dollar to a donut that the Knowles had face to face with Rogers and knowing the history Kenny has with Dolly Parton, it's pretty damn natural for Beyonce to do country. He'll, it would be offensive to the late Kenny Rogers if she didn't.
I always thought the Commadors “Sail On” was a country song but if you wanna see some funny shit go look at Lionel Richie and Tim McGraw - Sail On . They did a good job performing the song live together but the look on the audience faces……. priceless!!! I think the clapping and applauding machine worked over time that night . 😂😂😂
I played Post Malone 1st hit single (white iverson) for my mom last night to show her that that was the same guy who sang America the Beautiful at the super bowl. Point is....they can genre hop and we can't. Not fair. Makes no sense.
Music is boundless. When it’s real, it’s good. I mean really, there is so much crossover! The basis of what we now call “country “ music has its harmony roots in Ireland and Scotland and its rhythm roots in Africa. Add in the banjo and it’s more dynamic. And you’re right Karen, music today is based in money. And, as you well know, there are powerful forces who want to keep people apart. Rooted in money, too.
We all know why he doesn't think Beyonce is country music. I'm not even the biggest country music fan but I will be buying Beyonce's country album. I like the new songs and also like her country song "Daddy Lessons."
But wasn't Taylor Swift Country before switching to Pop? Dolly Parton, Faith Hill, Darius Rucker and Claire Hill have all switched from Country to Pop. Amy Grant went from Gospel to Pop and Al Green and Deneice Williams went from R&B to Christian Music. Curtis Mayfield & Sam Cooke started out Gospel and switched to R&B/Soul. However, Beyonce can't go from Pop to Country? The Dooble Brothers started out Country and Rock to R&B and Pop having Mixed Crowds, being on the show What's Happening back in the late 70's. Bonnie Raitt was successful in Country and Pop!
I'm baffled.... I just heard the song. The fact that the song has a country tempo, instruments and cadence and if I didn't know it was beyonces voice it's a country song!! Has the caller listened to modern country music??? It's very pop and not like old time country 30 yrs ago. So it's country if it was Sung by someone else??? Nonsensical Lil Nas X was on the country charts and they tried to deny that too and other country artists said yes it's country! I love beyonce for doing this!! Amazing! AND WE STARTED THIS MUSIC! Country is just southern black folks singing while we worked. The tempo the sadness.
I want y’all to keep the same energy when Taylor swift puts out a rap album, and it goes #1. I want yall to say yes, this is hip hop and hip hop stations should play it.
@user-hh6pb7ct5s no big deal. The "same energy" was already displayed when Justin Timberlake, Robin Thicke and other white artists have racked up soul/r&b awards in the past. Get serious.
@@zphidivah yea but Justin Timberlake actually respected the craft. He worked with Pharrell and Timberland. Same thing with robin thicke working with Pharrell and usher. They didn’t just start making the music and not ingratiate themselves into the culture. Is Beyoncé going to ingratiate herself into the country culture and will they embrace her? Probably not.
I’m telling you that white people will not admit that they stole country western music from Black people. In the 50s we had Ray Charles and Charley Pride who both sang country western. Even the pointer sisters in the 60s and 70s had crossover country western but they were not given credit for it, listen to songs like Slow Hand and Sweer Inspiration these songs are Nothing but pure country. I hope Black people will keep singing and creating for the joy of it not for the commercialism of it, and if nobody plays our music, we will play it ourselves. Happy Valentine’s Day.❤❤❤
Stole? Anybody can make a country record we simply decided to go down the r&b soul gospel route. Staples singers also did country music too. We abandoned the music. That's on us. Glad we're waking up to it in 2024
Keep on keeping on, Professor Hunter. Using Professor Carr's framework of Africana Studies. I would postulate that "who are we to each other" is more important than "who are we to others in this case. The gentelman may not think that Beyonce is country enough for him, but we know that she is country enough. For example, on the island of Saint Lucia, country music is ingrained in the culture just like the French Creole culture is. In Saint Lucia there are "county dances," which are music gatherings, that attract more patrons than say a reggae or calypso dance session. Charlie Pride is an Icon in Saint Lucia. I grew up in the south, and was called by the so-called town folk a country bumbbkin ehen i attended high school in the city of Castries because i came from " the countryside." We owned and run more than 25 acres of a banana farm. My brother fun sn annual Country-Jam, ie a country party. We have the banjo and the fiddle incorporated in our traditional folk songs. African Americans please get back to your roots. You who grew up planting crops and working on farms. You who ate gumbo and crayfish. You who fished in rivers and swamps. You who built and lived in log cabins. Now people are telling black people that country is not thier culture, oh please! Stop!!
Don is so upset about this instead of Tim Scott-- incredulous. With his full chest. Racism has been here since the inception of this country. There are so many important issues than who gets played on country music radio stations. Let's start a new genre on our own radio station called -- Black Country Music.
The male caller's blindness & deep-seated beliefs that he can't or won't admit is the issue that is prevalent in many just like him. He was just the one who happened to bring it to the forefront for the audience to hear. He is far from the only one!
So I'm watching the Country Music awards and I'm asking myself "so a guy from Australia can be a country but Beyonce, who I hear is from Texas, can't. Somebody please make it make sense.
Wow people really are not honest about who they are at all. This caller has no Idea how he is fundamentally disconnected from his humanity. Its the little lie that we tell ourselves as human beings, that keep us from the truth.
Music has influences from all races, ethnicities, all over the world. It's racist and divisive to say what you just said, as well as factually incorrect
@@reneejett6509, sorry to burst your bubble but all modern music from the USA was derived from Black people, Rock and Roll; Rap, Blues, Jazz, Gospel, Soul, Pop and County. It is racist to try to rewrite history, 🇬🇧. The rest of the world is aware of this.
Similarly to this, when Prince was recording his debut album, he told WB execs "don't make me black." He wanted his music to be heard by everyone, because he played all kinds of music. I am not a Beyonce stan by any stretch, but I've heard her enough to know that she can do many different styles of music and wants to do just that, but more than that--she is telling the recording industry "don't put me in a box." As for this caller, it's circular logic at its "finest." And he's stuck in a situation where the circles of subjective and objective thought are collapsed in his mind. He doesn't understand that he doesn't have to like it for it to be good.
Ironically. A band reviewed her new song 16 carriages and said it reminded them of Prince Plus she’s releasing the album on the 50th anniversary of the queen of rock, Tina Turner having released her first country album. Beyoncé is channeling the idols that came before her
I love the Karen Hunter show and I'm wondering how can she have the #1 country song if the country radio stations aren't playing it. How is that happening?
It’s not about Beyonce being black necessarily as much as it is Type casting. If they was the case you wouldn’t have Tracy Chapman and Darius Rucker. I think it is not just the music itself but how it’s sung. To me if she says it’s country then that should be it. However, people who have type casted her don’t want to accept her label of the music as country. Similar to her saying call me by my pronouns.
@dopeskis9838 - Tracy Chapman‘s original song “Fast Car” was not played on Country music stations. It was only when the white Country music singer covered it that it was played on Country music stations. And even though the Luke Combs’ cover is an almost exact replica of the original, there are Country music “fans” who claim that his cover is Country, but that the original is not. Let that sink in.
@@dinibellyeah, that Tennessee Whisky song a few years back seemed to win all the country plaudits, but it was just Etta James’ “I’d rather go blind” with different lyrics.
Great conversation Karen! I do think that yt folks don't want her in "their space" because she's simply black. But Lady Gaga.. who's a pop artist did a Country album years ago and they had no issue. K. Michelle does country too and she comes from the R&B/Hiphop world. There are plenty of other artists who switch genres.. why decline Beyoncé for doing country? I think the songs are amazing and will definitely be #1! This is an eye opening moment. I think Beyoncé should come out and do a sit down interview to discuss all of this.
I thought the station managers were allowed to present the music they thought fit their music platform. The station said they were waiting to see how Beyonce's songs did on the larger county music platforms. Maybe I'm missing something.
@@KarenHunterShow yeah you missing few braincells just like those racist stations lost their audiences and ad revenue to other channels who did play her great country song which im bopping to right now, even want to learn line dance now
Hi Family, Thank you guys for showing us them, folks. 😮 Let's call a thing a thing. He is a victim, and he probably self segregate.🤯 I'm struggling with you, Karen. Deep in my soul, that "R" word came to mind. 😢😮
Michael Jackson had this same issue with pop on MTV if people love music it shouldn’t matter how they look we listen to music that sounds good it’s really a mental illness to judge people based on race smh
Do the songs sound country?!? Country Music DOES have a particular sound. I don't care for country music, but living in Texas, I know it when I hear it!!! If it's a country station, and the music doesn't sound country, I understand them not playing it!!! Wearing a cowboy hat and dying your hair blond, doesn't make what you're singing Country!!!
This is perfect 😍 In our NOW a song has becomes a mirror They can see their ancestors in the reflection of their reaction This is a perfect storm!!! Be still hearts of my people❤ Just hold up your mirror There is nothing like seeing your own ugliness looking back you If they look deeper they can see their resemblance to those from whence you’ve come 😮 Prayers Much Love Queen Continued excellence in all you put your hands to And all you speak into💕
How about we don't push or pull them but rather DRAG them kicking and screaming. HOW ? GLAD U ASKED. Take every spot 1 thru 100 of the Country Billboards Top 100 for the next year. SHOWEM WUT U GOT. THANK ME LATER. 😊❤
I feel like she can do country but I don’t think her voice works for the genre. Artist can definitely try different genres but for her to sing country I think they shouldn’t have used this one maybe more of her ballad than pop voice
Lionel Richie, Darius from Hootie and the Blowfish, have cut country songs. Didn't hear about folk objecting to that. So why is it an issue with B? Back in the day Ray Charles did many country albums starting with his Modern Sounds in Country & Western featuring the hit, Busted. Not to mention the bona fide country artist, Charlie Pride.
You know what's so funny. People have been calling Beyoncé "country" as an insult for years. From her accent, the fashions and cowboy hats back in the day in the DC years...and now issa problem
It's been the same struggle with my Black Rock/Hard Rock/Punk/Metal heroes throughout history. Everybody from Lenny Kravitz to Living Colour to Fishbone to 24-7 Spyz to Pure Hell to Death to King's X to Terence Trent D'arby to Sound Barrier to Mother's Finest to TV On The Radio to Sevendust and the list goes on. They would always be told by the higher-ups that their music wasn't "black enough" or they should add more Rap and R&B to make it more marketable. Thankfully they were able to succeed despite those hindrances. But it speaks to a larger issue of putting Black artists being put into boxes and not being able to freely do what they want. One of the few to really gain mass acceptance by playing Rock and Roll or playing whatever he felt like playing was Prince (#RIP 💜 🕊). And even he had some challenges along the way. I'm glad there's since been movements like the Black Rock Coalition and AfroPunk (I guess...I don't even know about those guys anymore. 😒) that are changing the perception of what Black artists can do.
It's always acceptable for white artist to be in black face which is a multitude of music categories: Elvis Presley, Miley Cyrus, Justin Timberlake, etc but it's ok
Lawd have mercy if beyonce and taylor swift would do a country song together??? Chile! There are rappers world-wide every color and culture. So we can't have black people doing country? 😂 i dont get how soul, r and b, gospel etc has imitators in every corner of the world but not country? Cause yts seem to have issues with diversity for their stuff but dont mind exploiting other peoples cultures!
There are very famous Black Country Music Stars "Charlie Pride" but Beyoncé is defiantly not typical Country she might make the outlaw country channels but I don't think its specifically about color, it's the style of country.
I haven't heard the Beyonce song, but much, maybe most, music now labeled as country music is not country music. That said, I don't know why her music can't be labeled as such. Taylor Swift"s music was at one time.
Beyonce keep doing your thing no matter what the haters say Beyonce has Gift from God and some people's needs to understand that her country songs is going to make a hit every time because she is a unique person and she has her own style how she does her music
The problem is they fear Beyonce's success in the genre, and that success opening the door more successful artist in the genre.
Who are they first of all? Success in the genre?
Musical Segregation. They want to keep people in certain lanes. No one owns a genre of music. And if they did, the owner would be Black for Country music.
If a certain group originated the particular music, then they own it which includes they get recognized for it not the appropriators, benefit financially as to create generational wealth, etc.
How is Musical Segregation when there were already Actual Black Country Music artists who've been doing way before her! The reason why Country Music fans are accepting Beyonce, because she's not serious with this music! They see the game!
By the way last night I heard Beyoncé song on the country music radio stations. It was on a very very popular county music station that’s heard all over the state. I was so shocked. The DJ gave a good explanation as to why she thinks Beyoncé song should be played and why she was going to be the one to play it. Congratulations Beyoncé.
John B is WHITE and his music is played on R&B stations and NOT pop stations 🤔.
here you go with logic. LOL.
🤣😂🤣😂, too bad that caller couldn't understand logic, but yall tried to help him though 😳.
Jon B, Teena Marie, Bobby Caldwell, AWB (The Average White Band), KC and the Sunshine Band, Cyndi Lauper, George Michael, Tom Jones (my mother loved Tom), Lisa Stansfeild, The BEE GEES, The Beastie Boys, Eminem, Justin Timberlake, MADONNA, LADY GAGA, P!NK, so many more none MALINATED Artists that we played on Black Radio.
So is Meghan Trainor. 😊
@@KarenHunterShowMickey Guyton, Jimmie Allen and Rhiannon' Giddons gets regular play on Country Music radio.
Beliefs can be different, but the facts will always be the same. He knows he just doesn't want a black American woman with the #1 country song in the world.
I ❤ Mickey Guyton.
THE FACTS ARE BLACK BLOOD BUILT THE SOUTH. WHAT IS MORE COUNTRY IS THAT . FACTS DONT CARE ABOUT FEELINGS
Her having the #1 country song in the world is the answer to Karen Hunter's question. Cuz Beyonce said it best, "Always stay gracious, best revenge is your paper." She's got that top chart position and there's nothing they can do about it except fume and seethe.
@@newhorizonsforfifty2833 But see here's what forgetting! She's only has the #1 song on the Billboard Hot Country Song Chart! Not the main Billboard Country Charts! The people that are steaming her songs, are Beyhive Fans! It not the Majority of the Country Music Fans! She doesn't have the #1 Country Song in the world!
Because yt people think Country music is yt people's music. Country music came from Black Gospel music.
Didn't it come from Blues music ?
@tudormiller887 That too.👍
No ot didn't. 😂
@@OGMann Yep!
Read up on Lesley Riddle, and his direct influence on The Carter Family, credited as the shapers of Country and Bluegrass music.
Jealous has more to do with it
This is exactly why an artist like Beyoncé is necessary. With each project she is lifting the vail and showing us who we are
If it takes Beyoncé to show us who we are? We’ve already loss!😂
He don't like Beyonce period
Why tho? I dont like her music per se but come on now beyonce can do wtf she wants. She is....beyonce....her influence and talent is amazing!! I'm so glad she is doing this and breaking down barriers
It's music 🎶
@@Theinfamouskiki411 there was a time when Beyonce was over saturated. It actually turned a lot of people off. But they definitely have it in for her. I've had people tell me that Beyonce can't even sing lol
Black people*
There I fixed it
@@KevinschartI heard that too but she can sing. Give props where they are do.
Country was marketed to whites, and Blue was marketed to Black people back in the early 1900s. Same music, but different marketing.
It seems that anything black is marketed to everybody! And it seems ok to copy us ALL the time. Our style, our dances, music but God forbid you take a yt person's "thing" they get touchy.
'Race Music' different century, same issues.
@@Theinfamouskiki411 If Country music is 'black' music in origin. How can it be 'white' music ?
She's from Houston Texas. She has every right to be country. You might want to visit.
With a country accent
Her family went to rodeos on weekends growing up
Beyoncé learned to ride horses
They were actively involved in southern culture.
Luke Combs can sing Tracy Chapman's song. Eminem IS a rapper, who was played on r&b stations, without hesitation. Now, Beyonce can't be country...
Yeah! They're too obsessed with overrated artists like Morgan Wallen & Lainy Wilson
Taylor Swift was embraced in country and she’s from rich upper middle class suburb in PENNSYLVANIA
Nobody batted an eye!!!!!
Jelly Roll and Morgan Wallen ain’t country and they’re at the top of country charts and nobody bats an eye!
Beyonce is a great entertainer, but everyone doesn't want to get sucked into her moneymaking vortex.
Her so called country songs sound like a pop RnB!!! Nothing country about them!!! 😂😂😂😂
@@tudormiller887those are true country artists!!! 😂😂 like wtf 😭😭😭😭!!!
If Carrie Underwood had sung the same songs, they would be played on country stations.
What if Mickey Guyton had sung those same songs ?
@tudormiller887 Mickey Guyton has also mentioned episodes of racism in her career because some folks will never accept people of color in country music.
@@tudormiller887 How many #1 hits has Mickey Guyton achieved on country radio stations?
@@tudormiller887the truth is not it would not be played. That woman has so many records that go unplayed. Also, can you name any other black country artist. That isn't Mickey Guyton, Darius Rucker, Kane Brown, Jimmie Allen or Charlie Crockett
@@Menehune3461 Rissi Palmer, Rhiannon Giddens, Brittney Spencer, Willie Jones, Charley Pride, Linda Martelll, Lesley Riddle, Cleve Francis, Petrella, Cowboy Troy, Amythyst Kiah, Breland, Trini Triggs, O.B.McClinton, Stoney Edwards, Tiera Kennedy, Wendy Morten, The War and Treaty, Tanner Adell, Chapel Hart, The Kentucky Gentleman, Sacha, O.N.E. The Duo. Did I miss anyone out ?
Country is a sound, not a look. 🤨
And it’s as simple as that
Going a lil bit old school here when Lionel Richie was going through his country phase and working with Kenny Rodgers on a few songs, but there are many other examples as well. The song "Stuck On You" comes immediately to mind but there were some others during that time as well. The "Urban" stations have no problem playing songs regardless of the artist but this condition is not reciprocated.
In 1974, the Pointer Sisters released an album called 'That's a Plenty'. The songs represented many genres, including country. There was a song called 'Fairytale'. A country song. They won a Grammy for this song, and I believe they wrote it. I think they were the first black women to perform at Grand Ole Opry.
Beyonce can sing anything she wants.
Music doesn't group or discriminate, its the ignorance of people that want everybody to stay in a little tight box.
Sir! If that were true you not have Black Country Music Artists! The truth is Beyonce is not a true Country Music Artists! As soon as she finishes this album, she's moving to another Genre! White folks see the games she's playing!
Music and artist crossover all the time
All music is created by Black people, so Beyoncé isn’t crossing over into anything she’s going back to her roots. they steal things from us. Tell us we cannot participate in it and we keep sharing things with them so we deserve it. It’s the same thing with braids. It’s not just a hairstyle. It’s a culture and if we allow white women to wear it they’re going to steal it and say they created and we can’t wear it anymore as black. The whole entire history is like that and we’re still wondering.
Black people started country music, Black people started all music
See they have gatekeeping standards we don't
She was born in TEXAS, so why can’t she showcase her artistic passion!
Hmmm, i remember when Beyonce was on stage at the Country Music Awards, singing with the Dixie Chicks, when country singer Alan Jackson walked out of the show stating that "that ain't country", showing his a** towards the D Chicks and Beyonce..and you have current country singers "rapping" in their songs, remaking songs put out by Black artists(and getting awards for them), country stars who have passed over into the pop category and still remain on country charts like Taylor Swift, and people like Hootie of Hootie and the Blowfish, leaving the pop category and going country. There seems to be a blurring of the genres, where it seems like if you put a steel guitar in a song, that's automatically country.. Beyonce is from Houston Texas where she grew up listening to all kinds of music! And the instruments country musicians play are All. From. Africa.
Taylor Swift is from ducking rich Pennsylvania
Nobody bats an eye !
I'm 60 and because of this controversy, I just found out that Kenny Rogers was born in Houston. Lived in the projects.
Now, I wonder if Matthew and Tina Knowles knows his history and stories that circulate by word of mouth that the general public doesn't know? He was chided for straddling the pop line, but is cemented as " Country ". Destiny's Child hit in the 80's. I bet you a dollar to a donut that the Knowles had face to face with Rogers and knowing the history Kenny has with Dolly Parton, it's pretty damn natural for Beyonce to do country. He'll, it would be offensive to the late Kenny Rogers if she didn't.
They are waiting to say " stay in your place n....😮
Professor Hunter, this was another master class, and all you had to say to the caller was ....but why?
😂❤
She can be whatever she wants. Anyone can, The sky is the limit
I always thought the Commadors “Sail On” was a country song but if you wanna see some funny shit go look at Lionel Richie and Tim McGraw - Sail On . They did a good job performing the song live together but the look on the audience faces……. priceless!!! I think the clapping and applauding machine worked over time that night . 😂😂😂
4:03 yikes Like Dr. Carr says ✨💯✨ 4:48 When you open your mouth your brain 🧠 is on display..😂😂😂💨👑💜
I played Post Malone 1st hit single (white iverson) for my mom last night to show her that that was the same guy who sang America the Beautiful at the super bowl. Point is....they can genre hop and we can't. Not fair. Makes no sense.
Music is boundless. When it’s real, it’s good. I mean really, there is so much crossover! The basis of what we now call “country “ music has its harmony roots in Ireland and Scotland and its rhythm roots in Africa. Add in the banjo and it’s more dynamic. And you’re right Karen, music today is based in money. And, as you well know, there are powerful forces who want to keep people apart. Rooted in money, too.
We all know why he doesn't think Beyonce is country music. I'm not even the biggest country music fan but I will be buying Beyonce's country album. I like the new songs and also like her country song "Daddy Lessons."
But wasn't Taylor Swift Country before switching to Pop? Dolly Parton, Faith Hill, Darius Rucker and Claire Hill have all switched from Country to Pop. Amy Grant went from Gospel to Pop and Al Green and Deneice Williams went from R&B to Christian Music. Curtis Mayfield & Sam Cooke started out Gospel and switched to R&B/Soul. However, Beyonce can't go from Pop to Country? The Dooble Brothers started out Country and Rock to R&B and Pop having Mixed Crowds, being on the show What's Happening back in the late 70's. Bonnie Raitt was successful in Country and Pop!
I'm baffled.... I just heard the song. The fact that the song has a country tempo, instruments and cadence and if I didn't know it was beyonces voice it's a country song!! Has the caller listened to modern country music??? It's very pop and not like old time country 30 yrs ago. So it's country if it was Sung by someone else??? Nonsensical
Lil Nas X was on the country charts and they tried to deny that too and other country artists said yes it's country! I love beyonce for doing this!! Amazing! AND WE STARTED THIS MUSIC! Country is just southern black folks singing while we worked. The tempo the sadness.
he didn't care. All he cared about was Beyonce (a Black woman) cannot be country. SMH!
@@KarenHunterShowlook if Miley Cyrus who started out doing country ended up twerking and whole album produced by a hip hop producer then we good😂
I want y’all to keep the same energy when Taylor swift puts out a rap album, and it goes #1. I want yall to say yes, this is hip hop and hip hop stations should play it.
@user-hh6pb7ct5s no big deal. The "same energy" was already displayed when Justin Timberlake, Robin Thicke and other white artists have racked up soul/r&b awards in the past. Get serious.
@@zphidivah yea but Justin Timberlake actually respected the craft. He worked with Pharrell and Timberland. Same thing with robin thicke working with Pharrell and usher. They didn’t just start making the music and not ingratiate themselves into the culture. Is Beyoncé going to ingratiate herself into the country culture and will they embrace her? Probably not.
Taylor Swift started out in country and then switched to pop. The pop stations played her music
I’m telling you that white people will not admit that they stole country western music from Black people. In the 50s we had Ray Charles and Charley Pride who both sang country western. Even the pointer sisters in the 60s and 70s had crossover country western but they were not given credit for it, listen to songs like Slow Hand and Sweer Inspiration these songs are Nothing but pure country. I hope Black people will keep singing and creating for the joy of it not for the commercialism of it, and if nobody plays our music, we will play it ourselves. Happy Valentine’s Day.❤❤❤
Ray Charles has a country Grammy
Stole? Anybody can make a country record we simply decided to go down the r&b soul gospel route. Staples singers also did country music too. We abandoned the music. That's on us. Glad we're waking up to it in 2024
Amen 🙏🏽 ⚡⚡⚡⚡🪶🪶🪶🙌❤🙌🏾❤ Thank you 😊
Remember all the convo on "old Town road"?!?!?! There was an issue for them categorizing that as country
Meanwhile other “types” artist flow in and out of multiple genre and no one bats an eye.
I just got finish listening to her country songs-especially texas hold em. It shouldn't be a debate ,it should be about supoort!
I’m streaming till she’s #1 on billboard and they can’t deny her
Don't forget Ray Charles wrote and performed country music.
Keep on keeping on, Professor Hunter. Using Professor Carr's framework of Africana Studies. I would postulate that "who are we to each other" is more important than "who are we to others in this case. The gentelman may not think that Beyonce is country enough for him, but we know that she is country enough.
For example, on the island of Saint Lucia, country music is ingrained in the culture just like the French Creole culture is. In Saint Lucia there are "county dances," which are music gatherings, that attract more patrons than say a reggae or calypso dance session. Charlie Pride is an Icon in Saint Lucia. I grew up in the south, and was called by the so-called town folk a country bumbbkin ehen i attended high school in the city of Castries because i came from " the countryside." We owned and run more than 25 acres of a banana farm. My brother fun sn annual Country-Jam, ie a country party. We have the banjo and the fiddle incorporated in our traditional folk songs. African Americans please get back to your roots. You who grew up planting crops and working on farms. You who ate gumbo and crayfish. You who fished in rivers and swamps. You who built and lived in log cabins. Now people are telling black people that country is not thier culture, oh please! Stop!!
Luke Combs is country when he sings a Tracy Chapman song? But Tracy is not country.
Deep conversation keep it up
Of course, Beyonce can be country. Gospel and Black people influenced country and western music.
Country music is nothing more than, white folks singing the Blues!!👍🏿
@@JamesSanctionsthat the slaves sang in the fields
More like created: research
Lesley Riddle and Rufus “Tee Tot” Payne
@@apriljohnson7447 Of course!
There's nothing gospel about "Church girls twerkin" dancing Red riding hoodwinked and bamboozled unleashed misery inside melodies l .
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The origin of the banjo is African.
Don is so upset about this instead of Tim Scott-- incredulous. With his full chest. Racism has been here since the inception of this country. There are so many important issues than who gets played on country music radio stations. Let's start a new genre on our own radio station called -- Black Country Music.
The male caller's blindness & deep-seated beliefs that he can't or won't admit is the issue that is prevalent in many just like him. He was just the one who happened to bring it to the forefront for the audience to hear. He is far from the only one!
So I'm watching the Country Music awards and I'm asking myself "so a guy from Australia can be a country but Beyonce, who I hear is from Texas, can't. Somebody please make it make sense.
racism. It is the most illogical thing on earth.
Wow people really are not honest about who they are at all.
This caller has no Idea how he is fundamentally disconnected from his humanity.
Its the little lie that we tell ourselves as human beings, that keep us from the truth.
We are very focused on being accepted by people who don’t accept us.
Black people created all music anyways..STOP IT
Music has influences from all races, ethnicities, all over the world. It's racist and divisive to say what you just said, as well as factually incorrect
@@reneejett6509, sorry to burst your bubble but all modern music from the USA was derived from Black people, Rock and Roll; Rap, Blues, Jazz, Gospel, Soul, Pop and County. It is racist to try to rewrite history, 🇬🇧. The rest of the world is aware of this.
Thank goodness for Duke Ellington and others from the 1920’s Harlem Renaissance, if not for them we would still be dancing to classical music.
Yall come back now, Ya hear 😊 ❤
Similarly to this, when Prince was recording his debut album, he told WB execs "don't make me black." He wanted his music to be heard by everyone, because he played all kinds of music. I am not a Beyonce stan by any stretch, but I've heard her enough to know that she can do many different styles of music and wants to do just that, but more than that--she is telling the recording industry "don't put me in a box." As for this caller, it's circular logic at its "finest." And he's stuck in a situation where the circles of subjective and objective thought are collapsed in his mind. He doesn't understand that he doesn't have to like it for it to be good.
Ironically.
A band reviewed her new song 16 carriages and said it reminded them of Prince
Plus she’s releasing the album on the 50th anniversary of the queen of rock, Tina Turner having released her first country album.
Beyoncé is channeling the idols that came before her
Some tables you can't sit. Don't matter how famous you are and the amount of money you have . This is still America and they will remind you of it !!!
She can be whatever she wants, but if it's not coming from a genuine place she will get push back from country fans.
Half them country artists ain't genuine and country music today is very light on the country and very pop
Yet Eminem is automatically genuine. It's not personal. It's the music. Either it's country genre or it isn't.
@@Theinfamouskiki411 Agreed
I love the Karen Hunter show and I'm wondering how can she have the #1 country song if the country radio stations aren't playing it. How is that happening?
Apple Music.
Independent streams
We are doing it despite the radio blackout 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
It’s not about Beyonce being black necessarily as much as it is Type casting. If they was the case you wouldn’t have Tracy Chapman and Darius Rucker. I think it is not just the music itself but how it’s sung. To me if she says it’s country then that should be it. However, people who have type casted her don’t want to accept her label of the music as country. Similar to her saying call me by my pronouns.
@dopeskis9838 - Tracy Chapman‘s original song “Fast Car” was not played on Country music stations. It was only when the white Country music singer covered it that it was played on Country music stations. And even though the Luke Combs’ cover is an almost exact replica of the original, there are Country music “fans” who claim that his cover is Country, but that the original is not. Let that sink in.
@@dinibellyeah, that Tennessee Whisky song a few years back seemed to win all the country plaudits, but it was just Etta James’ “I’d rather go blind” with different lyrics.
@@danielhoskins4690 Yep - absolutely!
Great conversation Karen! I do think that yt folks don't want her in "their space" because she's simply black. But Lady Gaga.. who's a pop artist did a Country album years ago and they had no issue. K. Michelle does country too and she comes from the R&B/Hiphop world. There are plenty of other artists who switch genres.. why decline Beyoncé for doing country? I think the songs are amazing and will definitely be #1! This is an eye opening moment. I think Beyoncé should come out and do a sit down interview to discuss all of this.
Black folks created Country music. There is a thin line between country and the blues. Black folks love country music too.
Yeah dude, I felt the same way about Hall & Oates
I thought the station managers were allowed to present the music they thought fit their music platform. The station said they were waiting to see how Beyonce's songs did on the larger county music platforms. Maybe I'm missing something.
you are...but that's okay.
@@KarenHunterShow yeah you missing few braincells just like those racist stations lost their audiences and ad revenue to other channels who did play her great country song which im bopping to right now, even want to learn line dance now
@@KarenHunterShow😂❤
Hi Family, Thank you guys for showing us them, folks. 😮 Let's call a thing a thing. He is a victim, and he probably self segregate.🤯
I'm struggling with you, Karen. Deep in my soul, that "R" word came to mind. 😢😮
Omg omg omg America , k Michelle just make a country album too. This is so so sad. It is full racist period.
Michael Jackson had this same issue with pop on MTV if people love music it shouldn’t matter how they look we listen to music that sounds good it’s really a mental illness to judge people based on race smh
I'm so happy for her
Some people have never been to Houston or have heard Beyonce talk.
Do the songs sound country?!? Country Music DOES have a particular sound. I don't care for country music, but living in Texas, I know it when I hear it!!! If it's a country station, and the music doesn't sound country, I understand them not playing it!!!
Wearing a cowboy hat and dying your hair blond, doesn't make what you're singing Country!!!
This is perfect 😍
In our NOW a song has becomes a mirror
They can see their ancestors in the reflection of their reaction
This is a perfect storm!!!
Be still hearts of my people❤
Just hold up your mirror
There is nothing like seeing your own ugliness looking back you
If they look deeper they can see their resemblance to those from whence you’ve come 😮
Prayers
Much Love Queen
Continued excellence in all you put your hands to
And all you speak into💕
It's Old Town Road" all over again. Li'l Nas X had to get Billy Ray Cyrus to validate that song. I hope Beyonce doesn't fall into that trap.
Music is the Universal Language.
It’s like sports. Can’t let certain folks in because they do it better and will be the best at it.
How about we don't push or pull them but rather DRAG them kicking and screaming. HOW ? GLAD U ASKED. Take every spot 1 thru 100 of the Country Billboards Top 100 for the next year. SHOWEM WUT U GOT. THANK ME LATER. 😊❤
What part of she’s not a Country artist do ya’ll not understand? Lol She wasn’t even singing country, she was just singing to a country track
Jeez. You people just can't think outside the racist box your in.
Btw. Country music is black.music. The banjocame from Africa not Appalachian mountains. Boy are you ignorant
If they bar Beyonce from singing Country Music, They need give the Banjo back 1st!
We need to stop saying we can't make them play our country music. We just did!
Texas Hold’Em is mos def Country.
I can understand if he said that about 16 Carriages because that’s more R&Bish.
Ray Charles sang country decades ago!!
So Taylor Swift and Miley Cirus can be country and pop just not a black woman 😂
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If Post Malone got nominated for a hip-hop award, then Beyoncé could be a country singer
I feel like she can do country but I don’t think her voice works for the genre. Artist can definitely try different genres but for her to sing country I think they shouldn’t have used this one maybe more of her ballad than pop voice
Never mind that many country singers have covered her music in their concert sets. Just Staaap.
Please do this topic justice and ask black country artists: Darius Rucker, Jimmy Allen and many more. They should chime in.
Beyonce can do whatever she likes
Because B came from R&B, people may consider it to be country soul
Lionel Richie, Darius from Hootie and the Blowfish, have cut country songs. Didn't hear about folk objecting to that. So why is it an issue with B? Back in the day Ray Charles did many country albums starting with his Modern Sounds in Country & Western featuring the hit, Busted. Not to mention the bona fide country artist, Charlie Pride.
I think they believe Beyoncé is not being authentic.
You are up .i will keep you on my mind, and watch you.
Oh the caucasity 🙄
She can be country music but it won't be accepted. See lil Nas x and the old Town road fiasco.
You know what's so funny. People have been calling Beyoncé "country" as an insult for years. From her accent, the fashions and cowboy hats back in the day in the DC years...and now issa problem
What about the late Charlie Pride, he could have sung anything "if allowed".
The caller didht even listen to the damn song. He shouldn’t have even been on the phone.
It's been the same struggle with my Black Rock/Hard Rock/Punk/Metal heroes throughout history. Everybody from Lenny Kravitz to Living Colour to Fishbone to 24-7 Spyz to Pure Hell to Death to King's X to Terence Trent D'arby to Sound Barrier to Mother's Finest to TV On The Radio to Sevendust and the list goes on. They would always be told by the higher-ups that their music wasn't "black enough" or they should add more Rap and R&B to make it more marketable. Thankfully they were able to succeed despite those hindrances. But it speaks to a larger issue of putting Black artists being put into boxes and not being able to freely do what they want. One of the few to really gain mass acceptance by playing Rock and Roll or playing whatever he felt like playing was Prince (#RIP 💜 🕊). And even he had some challenges along the way. I'm glad there's since been movements like the Black Rock Coalition and AfroPunk (I guess...I don't even know about those guys anymore. 😒) that are changing the perception of what Black artists can do.
By the way Willie Nelson made a Reggae Album
It's always acceptable for white artist to be in black face which is a multitude of music categories: Elvis Presley, Miley Cyrus, Justin Timberlake, etc but it's ok
Lawd have mercy if beyonce and taylor swift would do a country song together??? Chile! There are rappers world-wide every color and culture. So we can't have black people doing country? 😂 i dont get how soul, r and b, gospel etc has imitators in every corner of the world but not country? Cause yts seem to have issues with diversity for their stuff but dont mind exploiting other peoples cultures!
There are very famous Black Country Music Stars "Charlie Pride" but Beyoncé is defiantly not typical Country she might make the outlaw country channels but I don't think its specifically about color, it's the style of country.
I want to hear it so play it on 88.7 please
There was absolutely no problem with what he said. The problem is the host ignorance.
I haven't heard the Beyonce song, but much, maybe most, music now labeled as country music is not country music. That said, I don't know why her music can't be labeled as such. Taylor Swift"s music was at one time.
Messed up, right!??? I still have hope too Karen
Country bout to be a race....anywho..@karenhunter vocabulary word of the day bristling.
Beyonce keep doing your thing no matter what the haters say Beyonce has Gift from God and some people's needs to understand that her country songs is going to make a hit every time because she is a unique person and she has her own style how she does her music