Butterfly Viscaria Blade Review with Liam Pitchford!

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  • Опубліковано 31 гру 2024

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  • @christianhaugaard5853
    @christianhaugaard5853 8 років тому +46

    Zhang Jikes blade

  • @josejuan4190
    @josejuan4190 8 років тому +5

    Dan, thanks for the review, I have been using the blade for almost a year and I love it.. thanks for the wonderful review...

    • @shpingalet7895
      @shpingalet7895 8 років тому +1

      Hi, can you tell more about your blade? What do you enjoy using it? How do you like to play? What rubbers do you use on it? What's your ranking? Thanks!

    • @josejuan4190
      @josejuan4190 8 років тому +2

      Hello, IM on my second set of rubbers on the blade, when I first bought it i had tenergy 05Fx on the forehand and yazaka rakza 7 soft on the backhand, i changed it and used the rakza soft on the forehand but I did a bad job on the re gluing that I damage the rubber, so i change to my current rubbers, nittaku fast arc c-1 on the forehand and tenergy 64 backhand, I will change to tenergy 05 and tenergy 64. but I also plan to get another viscaria as backup so i can try other rubbers, I love the blade. when IM playing my best im around 1500 usatt rating...

    • @fortitude1208
      @fortitude1208 Рік тому

      @@josejuan4190you disnt say nothing

  • @spaamnk
    @spaamnk 7 років тому +3

    Classic and fantastic blade. Good speed, spin and control.

  • @d.r.5402
    @d.r.5402 8 років тому +9

    I love your reviews. Such good stuff. You really seem to take your time on examining the aspects. Thank you and please keep on!

  • @paullim6509
    @paullim6509 8 років тому +19

    can you please review the butterfly petr korbel

  • @ChristopherMangels
    @ChristopherMangels 8 років тому +9

    I really do love your videos - they are really a boost for the Table Tennis community! They would be even more awesome with the support of a vocal coach. Just a thought. Keep up your great work!

  • @gloinpower
    @gloinpower 8 років тому +55

    A bit late for Viscaria review :D But I'll take it anyways

  • @okitaufik4871
    @okitaufik4871 8 років тому +2

    Liam is awesome !! Dan thanks for the video

  • @OverseerKevin
    @OverseerKevin 7 років тому +2

    I'm retiring my DHS Hurricane Long 5 blades.
    I just picked up a Viscaria yesterday and it's amazing!!!!! I've got Hurricane 8 on the forehand. And Tenergy 05 on the backhand. And it's really proved to me why so many top players use this blade. Great review.

    • @ananthahegde8476
      @ananthahegde8476 5 років тому

      Don't get me wrong long 5 is a great blade, but I find it difficult to switch flanks with it while attack as compared toa bty gergely, haven't tried viscaria though

  • @joacogoleador
    @joacogoleador 8 років тому +5

    What a player is Liam, I love him !

  • @scottcooper9601
    @scottcooper9601 8 років тому +3

    800 views, everyone surely should help out TTD and Dan and hit that like button guys :)
    Another awesome review bud, just need more of them. Say 1 a week mate ;)

    • @shpingalet7895
      @shpingalet7895 8 років тому

      1 a month would be not bad at all. It's hard to make such stuff weekly. Expensive first of all :) Secondly it must be a priority thing that you work on all week and deliver a review at the end of it.

    • @scottcooper9601
      @scottcooper9601 8 років тому +1

      Shpinga let, I am winding him up cuz he ain't got time for 1 a year lol

    • @shpingalet7895
      @shpingalet7895 8 років тому

      :D

  • @quickzilver333
    @quickzilver333 8 років тому +15

    The problem that I have with Viscaria is that it has so many weight variations. I had two Viscarias 84 grams and 90 grams. So it is very hard to find an exact back up blade even when I ask the seller/vendor to weigh the blade before sending it to me they still sent me the wrong weight blade. The weight difference varies between 80 grams- 95 grams.
    The one on the video is the Newest version of the Viscaria.

  • @Dr.OneilAakashBiswas1038
    @Dr.OneilAakashBiswas1038 8 років тому +6

    Can you kindly do a review of timo bill spirit and tenergy 05? Thank you. Bdw love your reviews!! Great work by Dan and Tom!!

  • @elg0rdo351
    @elg0rdo351 4 роки тому +2

    That tiny hologram lens makes the blade look cheap af whereas the old Arylate lens looked exclusive and cool. Additionally, the new ST grip is different from the old one of the Viscaria. :0

  • @stevenvanzoelen
    @stevenvanzoelen 7 років тому +9

    Butterfly TB ZLC (for me)is a better frame. I played both. More control and better topspin from my point of view. I also like the vibration after blocking with the TB ZLC. I played one year with Viscaria and Tenergy 05 (max). The first day I used TB ZLC I was in for a surprise. Weeks later I switched. My style is to attack. Nonetheless I don't recommend fast frames and fast rubbers to average players. Start with wooden (5ply) frames from Stiga and good rubbers like sriver or yasaka V. Control is the key to success. I play table-tennis for more then 40 years. Good luck! Steve.

    • @fortitude1208
      @fortitude1208 Рік тому

      Yes.. without a very very good techink i think its usless.. better take some wooden blade like stiga or peter corble, feel free to take a stroke, feel the game, enjoy..
      im returnd after 7,8 years to tt and i decide i will not buy Viscaria becouse i cant train hard as i train earlier.. good attacking game need 5 times a week training. And i already have hard time with a lot slower carbon blade and spiny rubber dignics 05 max.. im geting frustratee, dont feel comofrtable to play.. i will buy maybe some wooden blade .. i lowe all round, control attack and block.. cheers

  • @Detherocable
    @Detherocable 5 років тому +1

    Late, but would you look at that spin on Liam's backhand? Wow!

  • @fajara6124
    @fajara6124 2 роки тому

    Superb backhand of Liam...

  • @shpingalet7895
    @shpingalet7895 8 років тому +2

    Liam has an excellent technique! Ideal timing! No wonder he needs such a stiff blade like this :)
    Dan, big thanks for explaining the blade's composition and for making comparisons with other blades like Boll ALC and Apolonia. Those are the most interesting parts for me. Really helpful.
    Please consider reviewing Boll ZLC and Freitas ALC blades.
    Your reviews are so interesting to watch, like some sort of TV series :) Too bad it's not weekly but it would be great if it was at least monthly ;) As always, great job!
    Buy the way where's Tom? Aren't you guys hanging around anymore?

  • @sammyfeinstein9165
    @sammyfeinstein9165 8 років тому +2

    Hi dan, I am the nephew of the 1938 tt world champion in doubles, Sol Schiff. I love your reviews, and would like to talk.
    Thanks

  • @MrTlhayes
    @MrTlhayes 8 років тому +7

    they are not the same the viscaria is a balsa core and thicker, look on the item description off of their website. where did you get kiri from?

    • @JayB-lz6yd
      @JayB-lz6yd 5 років тому

      do you still think that? beause Kiri paulownia has same properties than balsa. except that it doesn't break as fast. a core ply needs to be strong. pure balsa blades tend to break with pro players. fact.

  • @IHadToChooseThis1
    @IHadToChooseThis1 6 років тому +4

    Hey Dan! I really liked your review. How about a review about the Timo Boll Spirit next ? :)

  • @blueeyednick
    @blueeyednick 8 років тому +5

    These days I was just considering if I wanna buy Viscaria or not and poof this came in :D

  • @arhon888
    @arhon888 2 роки тому

    Are you planning to review the new Viscaria Super ALC? Would love to see this.

  • @peachcat2812
    @peachcat2812 4 роки тому +2

    there is sort off an unwritten rule that whenever the opponent does an around the net/behind the back shot, you are basically not allowed to win the point

  • @jomartianio5457
    @jomartianio5457 7 років тому +6

    Please make a review of DHS MA Long Hurricane V blade thanks.. =)

  • @ХусанРахимов-я3ь
    @ХусанРахимов-я3ь 4 роки тому +5

    Conclusion! Liam has very good technique 😁

  • @LanceChhuanaRalte
    @LanceChhuanaRalte 7 років тому +3

    Dan, which one you'll prefer - Garaydia ALC or Viscaria??

  • @ВладКарлащук
    @ВладКарлащук 5 років тому +1

    Hello, and why did Viscaria review with Liam Pitchford and not with Zhang Jike?

  • @goran.gabourel7267
    @goran.gabourel7267 8 років тому +3

    Can you please do a review of stiga clipper wood with stiga aioric astro m on both sides

  • @topseda
    @topseda 6 років тому +2

    Please review timo boll spirit. I need to know if tbs has more control than tbalc or viscaria. Thanks

  • @heruherumani2117
    @heruherumani2117 3 роки тому +1

    what kind of rubber is viscaria suitable for forehand?.

  • @fvazquez64
    @fvazquez64 Рік тому

    Thanks for the review, but what about the rubbers? which ones would you recommend for a medium experienced player?

  • @dannyberona671
    @dannyberona671 8 років тому +3

    Can you guys do a Tenergy 05 review please?

  • @jason81949
    @jason81949 8 років тому +1

    Hi, thank you for the detail review! Im currently choosing between Viscaria and Stiga Emerald vps v ~~ very undecided. Any comment on these two blades? I like the natural woody feeling, it has good direct feeling of the ball ,but looks like the viscaria is also pretty good and could be faster and easier to loop? I am a two side looper, usually short pushes on serves return, then attacking on the 3rd or 4th balls, then go into mid distance looping on rallies~~ please give some recommendations! Thank you!

    • @nikkelssonn6388
      @nikkelssonn6388 7 років тому

      jason81949 I'm same type of player as you and I have fallen in love with viscaria I think it will suit you too.

  • @ManuB3581
    @ManuB3581 7 років тому

    This review would have been very helpful a a few months earlier !! Anyway I had gone ahead and got myself a Viscaria , So far I think its awesome . I bought from an online store in India and unfortunately it seems i have been sold an older production date blade , the packaging is the older type with the transparent plastic sheet on one side type. Biggest problem with Indian online sites selling TT equipment , old stuff many times.

    • @nikkelssonn6388
      @nikkelssonn6388 7 років тому +2

      Manu B if its the older version its even better and more valuable

    • @solomasla6977
      @solomasla6977 3 роки тому +1

      I think it's the fake version of the older one :))

  • @a7lyqq
    @a7lyqq 8 років тому +3

    It s in Stoke on trent ??
    oh I was there !

  • @MaxPower2307
    @MaxPower2307 8 років тому

    I think a TSP REGALIS red/blue review would be nice. It's a Japan rubber and could be an alternative for all the esn rubbers! Would also be your first TSP review. :-)

  • @jasonrai696
    @jasonrai696 2 роки тому

    A review on Long 5 blade would be great 👍

  • @guillermomorales6158
    @guillermomorales6158 3 роки тому

    My blade is viscaria cs penhold grip and I love it my game is better than before.😍👍

  • @taw6102
    @taw6102 7 років тому

    nice review
    thanks DAN....

  • @yifanliu1016
    @yifanliu1016 4 роки тому +3

    is that Peter Crouch playing table tennis? :D

    • @lightice1387
      @lightice1387 4 роки тому

      No, I think it is Liam Pitchford playing Tennis 🎾

  • @BollForte94
    @BollForte94 8 років тому +5

    Hey Dan,
    I would love to see a review about the Liu Shiwen ZLF. What do you think?

    • @EkcoEkco2k12
      @EkcoEkco2k12 8 років тому +1

      omg ure still alive. new video coming soon?

    • @BollForte94
      @BollForte94 8 років тому +1

      Hey Ekco, thank you for recognizing me :) my videos are very old.
      I would love to make a new video but I got a shitty laptop and only Windows Movie Maker ... :(

  • @armindiaz7428
    @armindiaz7428 8 років тому

    Esta madera la sigue usando Zhang jike. Y muy bueno eso de resaltar la composición de placas con la que esta construida la madera

  • @candylaria5414
    @candylaria5414 6 років тому

    Confused between what attributes are for the wood and what for the rubbers. 🙄🤔
    Heard some of those as well in his rubber reviews... 😅

  • @danielflores4278
    @danielflores4278 2 роки тому

    Now you need another review with his new equipment, sponsored by victas.
    Victas rubbers and blades are very good too. 👌

  • @PenaceaID
    @PenaceaID 7 років тому

    please review sword gold / blue feather blade since no one discuss about it in the entire youtube universe, and dont forget to use cheap (less than $30 / sheet) Chinese rubber like milky way, etc.

  • @wholesomechiro
    @wholesomechiro 7 років тому +1

    Hi Dan. In your opinion is Ovcharov True Carbon blade similar to viscaria? Would you recommend buying it instead if a person is on the budget?

    • @ttjesus4959
      @ttjesus4959 3 роки тому

      They're similar blades. Same sort of construction. However, the OTC is faster than Viscaria and has a straight throw angle. Viscaria has a higher throw angle. Both blades are honestly only meant for high level players. But, I suppose it's good for the market for all the amateurs to buy the popular pro stuff, even though they'd be way better off with something much slower

    • @randsp3c709
      @randsp3c709 3 роки тому

      @@ttjesus4959 what do u recommend I have a infinity vps v , I've played for a long time but recreationally, only recently playing more competitively and I already feel like I could handle a faster paddle

  • @jonathanoh8328
    @jonathanoh8328 7 років тому

    Hey dan! Nice video, and could you tell me where you got your red flooring? I’m looking to get some.

  • @notisp
    @notisp 2 роки тому

    Please make a review for the viscaria super alc!!!!

  • @rastkojacimovic9727
    @rastkojacimovic9727 2 роки тому

    Is the Andro Treiber CO OFF / S good replacement for Viscaria, what is the similarity in speed and control?

  • @imuresan1560
    @imuresan1560 6 років тому +4

    Pitchford is using a Mizutani blade recently. Both against Fan Zhendong and now against Japan team. Dan or anyone. Any idea which one is it. The ZLC or the super ZLC?

    • @yasserharban3507
      @yasserharban3507 6 років тому

      iMuresan I was spoken to lim he confirmed that for he use Mizutani ZLC

  • @ГлебПолищук-с8о
    @ГлебПолищук-с8о 7 років тому

    tb spirit slower than viscaria? which blade is softer feeling? which blade have more control?

  • @andyyang2482
    @andyyang2482 7 років тому

    Great review, is it possible to do a review for DHS hurricane long V

  • @seehyunk386
    @seehyunk386 6 років тому

    viscaria was a good blace? timo boll = viscaria was same
    speed?

  • @hongrand
    @hongrand 7 років тому +1

    Hurricane 3 Neo please!

  • @adventureofskyrim7248
    @adventureofskyrim7248 8 років тому +1

    Which has more control, viscaria or Timo Boll ALC?

  • @christianadriananiceta2753
    @christianadriananiceta2753 7 років тому

    How close are butterfly chinese al or Butterfly Taksim to viscaria?
    are they cpen version of viscaria?

  • @kevmac6558
    @kevmac6558 3 роки тому

    To say liam handles this blade well is an underestimation he obviously felt there is subtle problems in the short game or he wouldn't of changed, i for one have used this blade and know it is a powerhouse in all aspects of topspin but suffers in the short game unless in pro hands..

    • @fortitude1208
      @fortitude1208 Рік тому

      Yes.. without a very very good techink i think its usless.. better take some wooden blade like stiga or peter corble, feel free to take a stroke, feel the game, enjoy..
      im returnd after 7,8 years to tt and i decide i will not buy Viscaria becouse i cant train hard as i train earlier.. good attacking game need 5 times a week training. And i already have hard time with a lot slower carbon blade and spiny rubber dignics 05 max.. im geting frustratee, dont feel comofrtable to play.. i will buy maybe some wooden blade .. i lowe all round, control attack and block.. cheers

  • @suayodsawee5843
    @suayodsawee5843 8 років тому

    What a difference between Visacaria and Zhang Jike ALC blade?

  • @elisanabria2068
    @elisanabria2068 3 роки тому

    What rubbers Liam use with the Viscaria?

  • @peters9793
    @peters9793 3 роки тому

    look at those spin liam has. They are tremendously fast.

  • @PilyongInggo
    @PilyongInggo Рік тому

    I want to have t05 on both side of my viscaria FL 😥... Too expensive.. Cost PHP 4,000.00 here in the Philippines..
    Im currently using battle 2 forehand boosted.. And Glayzer on my backhand side.. Soon I'll change my forehand to Tenergy 05 for more consistent forehand...

  • @wholesomechiro
    @wholesomechiro 6 років тому

    Does tibhar Mxs go well with viscaria for backhand

  • @Нейросетьконтентпланетакотов

    What is the basis (racket) played by Liam?

  • @attilakoblos1302
    @attilakoblos1302 Рік тому

    Can you do a review of DHS Hurricane Long 5 please?

  • @bobpuls
    @bobpuls 8 років тому

    Are you sure the core is made from kiri ?
    because it looks like balsa and also butterfly they self are writing it is made from balsa wood.

    • @WorthlessGeek
      @WorthlessGeek 8 років тому

      If it was balsa, the blade would most likely be a lot lighter

    • @bobpuls
      @bobpuls 8 років тому

      it does not have to...

  • @billhsu5883
    @billhsu5883 5 років тому +1

    Hope you could get liam pitchford again and do a review about mizutani zlc :)

  • @palakneelansh9290
    @palakneelansh9290 6 років тому +1

    i have also taken viscaria blade

    • @JayB-lz6yd
      @JayB-lz6yd 5 років тому

      if you ask, you probably don't have the level for it so... forget.

  • @michielschimmel
    @michielschimmel Рік тому

    the comparison viscaria with apolonia blade is imo incorrect ... the apolonia has the carbon fiber like an innerforce direct situated at the ayous core (limba-limba-ZLC-Ayous-ZLC-Limba-Limba) the viscaria has an outerforce construction (Koto-ALC-limba-Kiri-Limba-ALC-koto) . The outerforce is more stiff than innerforce due to the positioning of the carbon fibers not because of koto or limba at the outerlayer.. koto outerlayer is a bit harder than limba so gives a bit less dwell time ... the combination woodcore, veneers (hard, soft ,weight ) and position of the fibers determine speed and feel of the blade, NOT just the outerveneers !!

  • @christianadriananiceta2753
    @christianadriananiceta2753 7 років тому

    I heard that the original viscaria have 5 ply handle
    while a fake one would have 3

  • @danielsolis4369
    @danielsolis4369 8 років тому

    can you do a review of donic acuda blu?

  • @michnenntmanthelegend453
    @michnenntmanthelegend453 8 років тому +1

    Make a Test with the SK7 Korbel Pls
    GOOD VIDEO NICE

  • @jaff77
    @jaff77 8 років тому

    Thanks for the review dan. Would be nice if you could review another all-time classic wood, DHS Hurricane Wang Liqin :)

    • @a7lyqq
      @a7lyqq 8 років тому +1

      Jaffar Lone I happen to have this one ready to sell, do u want it ?

    • @jaff77
      @jaff77 8 років тому

      Yao Li you mean viscaria??

    • @a7lyqq
      @a7lyqq 8 років тому

      Jaffar Lone No, wang liqin blade

    • @jaff77
      @jaff77 8 років тому

      Yao Li i already have it. Thanks anyway :)

    • @WorthlessGeek
      @WorthlessGeek 8 років тому

      Do you mean the Hurricane King or the H-WL? Completely different blades

  • @yieeehh5868
    @yieeehh5868 4 роки тому +1

    now you change to viscaria right

  • @whyse509
    @whyse509 8 років тому

    and what rubber do you use on this blade?

  • @actionmayne3742
    @actionmayne3742 8 років тому

    Dan, im from the UK. i have never been a member of a club but i would like to play competitively and hopefully become ranked in the UK, how do i go about doing this? thanks

    • @lazoahmed733
      @lazoahmed733 8 років тому

      Action Mayne get a membership from table tennis englang and start attending tournaments to gain points.

    • @kishenpankhania363
      @kishenpankhania363 8 років тому +1

      If you've never played in a club, its advisable to find one near you and start playing against others, gain some local experience/coaching and then start entering tournaments when your ready

    • @UnseenSpirit
      @UnseenSpirit 8 років тому

      Most people at tournaments are pretty good. If you play casually then I'd advise you to train at a club for quite a while. Google clubs near you and train. Jumping in to tournaments may be the worse thing to do if you have expectations to win a game or two

  • @andreferreira28
    @andreferreira28 7 років тому

    Which rubbers do they use

  • @ralphpichler1517
    @ralphpichler1517 6 років тому +1

    Hey Dan,
    In which league could you play in German or Austrian?

  • @saimtime
    @saimtime 7 років тому +2

    How would you compare Viscaria to the Garaydia ALC?

  • @ajitrisetiyatmoko7958
    @ajitrisetiyatmoko7958 3 роки тому

    How good?viscaria or timoboll alc

  • @ivanpupkin6508
    @ivanpupkin6508 8 років тому

    Viscaria vs TBS what difference?

  • @shivang365
    @shivang365 7 років тому

    ALCTimo ball review ?

  • @17teacmrocks
    @17teacmrocks 6 років тому

    that's not true. the ply dimensions are not the same. they only look that way bc the img is blurry. other people have compared the compositions with microscopes next to the tb alc. the viscaria's ALC layers don't line up with the TB's so there's a difference somewhere. the feel and output of the viscaria is distinctly different from tb alc

  • @jimmoas
    @jimmoas 8 років тому

    does Liam use max m.m rubber?

  • @danielplainview4587
    @danielplainview4587 8 років тому

    anyone know about what Dan's USATT rating would be? seems easily over 2000

    • @daniyalhassan7441
      @daniyalhassan7441 8 років тому

      Patrick Hicks
      about 2200

    • @Alex_Averin_TT
      @Alex_Averin_TT 8 років тому

      daniyal hassan lol no easily 2300-2400

    • @keenansouthall1861
      @keenansouthall1861 8 років тому +1

      Patrick Hicks I've played with dan and he's around 2000-2100, quite a solid player!

  • @459jyo5
    @459jyo5 8 років тому +1

    Viscaria converted to MICHEAL MAZE ALC and TIMOBOLL ALC

    • @JayB-lz6yd
      @JayB-lz6yd 5 років тому

      Maze ALC is limba surface not Koto. Freitas ALC is the new Maze.

  • @ultramagneticsago6329
    @ultramagneticsago6329 8 років тому +15

    a review of DHS PG7 plss! :D

  • @taw6102
    @taw6102 7 років тому

    what about its durability and blade splinter?t

  • @sukrusnc1291
    @sukrusnc1291 4 роки тому

    Viscaria is very expensive. İs there any alternative blade to viscaria?

  • @desilegend5566
    @desilegend5566 4 роки тому

    Stiga carbnado 145 vs VISCARIA fl who in win

  • @PolowanieNaSlonie
    @PolowanieNaSlonie 6 років тому

    Hello Dan, did You use 2,1mm sponge thickness or was it less?

  • @christianhaugaard5853
    @christianhaugaard5853 8 років тому

    DHS Hurricane Long 3, please

  • @peachcat2812
    @peachcat2812 4 роки тому

    its ubsurd how a blade from 2008 is still dominant even in the plastic ball era

  • @benmochen4480
    @benmochen4480 6 років тому

    Where to buy?

  • @darrinkulyk9560
    @darrinkulyk9560 4 роки тому

    I Tried One ..... I'm Buying One 😎

    • @darrinkulyk9560
      @darrinkulyk9560 3 роки тому

      I Have a M Model FL 87grs. Loaded with Xiom O7A MAX BothSides 190gr. I have about 250hrs with it Now And Love it More As I Get Better . Pretty Much the Best All Around Offensive Blade . Mine IS AMAZING .

  • @supermasilla
    @supermasilla 8 років тому +14

    Viscaria is really nice, but imo it´s too much for any Amateur/intermediate even advance player due to it´s bouncy nature and lack of control. No amateur need any ALC based blade for a fully development of his game

    • @kochtrevor
      @kochtrevor 8 років тому +7

      With a real coach it honestly doesn't matter.

    • @lockaze
      @lockaze 6 років тому +1

      I really don’t find it that bouncy. I have a ~87 gram Viscaria and a 95 gram Korbel. I find it easier to play with the Viscaria than the Korbel

  • @christianhaugaard5853
    @christianhaugaard5853 7 років тому

    Hurricane Long III, please

  • @kingofgames6750
    @kingofgames6750 7 років тому

    is that pitchford's real voice??

  • @sheerazhshah
    @sheerazhshah 8 років тому

    butterfly innerforce zlc please

  • @seehyunk386
    @seehyunk386 6 років тому

    viscaria is a good blade?