This Kia Is Running Out Of Time!
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- In this video I have a look at a Kia Sedona for another shop that came in with cam timing codes. P0011 indicates that the rear bank timing is falling behind. Let's see if the computer is telling us the truth.
-Enjoy!
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What makes this guy arguably the GOAT is a diagnosis like this and the fact he can also cut a rusted nut off a bolt with a torch and not screw up the threads and he is funny and honest and shares all this stuff with the common folk.... A legend...
So is his wife!
Eric O the GOAT. I like it!
Certainly my favorite mechanic
One these days ill have money again and this is first place I'm gonna contribute.
This dude has remarkable recall and I would suspect Mr. O Is close to genius level intelligence.
The scope doesn't lie! Hope this isn't another twisted camshaft like the one you and Ivan found. I saw that video.
Good one Mr. O. Nice to see Mrs. O.
Yo Eric
make sure to give us an update on the Kia. What was causing the issue after all. Keep up the good work!!
I noticed Mrs. O's shop coat was awful white and was missing the South Main Auto Shield on the back. Great Video Eric!
Good stuff man
Makes sense
3 questions
What’s the name of the group that you get scope sample sharing?
Did the other shop get more in depth and what did they find?
The problem is most shops don’t have the equipment you’ve got ($5000 per tool we saw today) nor are they willing to convince the customer to pay 4 hours for diagnosis.
Variable cam gear problems are not unknown on other vehicles, and from memory I believe this is a Mitsubishi 3.8 (built under licence?). Pretty sure the auto is also a 5 speed F5A51 mitsu as well. Would appreciate some feedback on what they actually find to round this out please Eric.
I've noticed, especially with older Kia-Hyundai vehicles, that the waveforms they supply seem to have been drawn on Take Your Kids To Work day.
What Autel do you use? Im a DIYer.... used to work professionally.... but that was before you need a scanner (80s)..... I do help out my friends.... Id like to keep it under a thousand.... lol.... like around 500..... can I get something decent that isn't just a clone of my obd2 reader from back in the day? (I do buy a lot of tools.... and mostly based on your recommendations .... so no pressure little fella.....)
As a former HD Truck/trailer technician, I can really appreciate your point to point diagnostics and your explanations. And you explain it in a layman's terms. Thanks for wonderful, informative videos.
Thanks 👍
The other shops in the area must sleep at night knowing Eric O is there in case they can’t figure out a problem.
😂😂😂😂😂
He's has a few ( OTHER SHOP REFERRALS ) hasnt he ? 😄
i'd be surprised if anyone goes to the others anymore lol
😂frfr
Second opinion cause they don’t care too fix it .
I have been watching you for several years now. Your diagnostic skills are awesome.
This guy and that pine hollow guy are the top two diag guys imo.
Scanner Dan, Diagnose Dan, Super Mario, Voltage Drop Diagnostics and the master Bernie Thompson from ATS
What a blessing you are to the other shops knowing they can drop a car off to you to get a diagnosis when they can’t figure it out themselves! 🇺🇸
Exactly! Eric has a real knack for in depth troubleshooting.
Thinking the same thing!🇺🇸
he has done this before 😅
No Eric, you can do it, i can't.
A person would need more than a casual experience to understand how these systems work, then interpret what the data means, providing you had the equipment. These cars have reached a point, where the average shade tree mechanic can install the easy parts via the parts canon. if the canon shot didn't hit the target, you can only hope the garage that you selected is as good a you.
Agreed😊
He couldn't even figure out this one...
@@dopeman420 At least the first part of your moniker is spot on.
So nice of the other shop to change the spark plugs for a timing code...hopefully they rotated the tires too! Great job as always, Mr. O
Typical "cheeseburger, chips, and Pepsi" establishment
Not to mention change the blinker fluid!:)
Blinker fluid can be expensive don't you know? Some vehicles have sensors built into the tail light and if the unit gets water in it costs over $5k for a damn tail light because it now communicates with the entire system of the vehicle. It no longer is just blinky blinky or flash on flash off.
I bought one of those brake lights that goes in the reciever hitch of a vehicle. From the get-go I got a message that my left trailer light was malfunctioning and would have the rapid flash turning left. Figured it was a defective unit and besides it had the back-up light feature I had to hard wire so I got a standard read light one and the same issue. I checked around and turns out the unit is wired only to the right tail light so the car computer thinkks my left trailer light is out giving me a message over and over my tail light is out on my trailer.
Knowing what I know sometimes the blinker will work normal but most times it will blink faster than normal and I may just unplug it.
@@larrybe2900 Ain't THAT the truth!
Loved the line about chain stretch but we’ll use that term loosely 🤣
He might be right about that and he called it before he had the car in the shop.
Good diagnostic path Eric O scan data can throw you off if you rely on it definitely looks like the cam pid went dead when the cam codes set 21:27 @South Main Auto Repair LLC
I would have like the cover pulled to see the actual problem. Your adapting well to the increased
electronics they're adding to these engines. You have become a expert diagnostician! The other shops know this too!!
Great video. I was never a big scope guy back when I was working. After watching your videos (about 4 years now) I wouldn't get back on the floor without one. It saves a bunch of time (comp. tests alone) and with the A,S wave stuff is very affordable...🤓
Great to hear!
Your diagnostic skills are always impressive but sometimes your understanding of modern engine technologies is even more so. I looked at a new Kia hybrid yesterday but watching this makes me want to start looking for a couple 60s and 70s cars and buy something I will understand and be able to work on like the old days. Modern cars make me feel so inadequate. Your customers are so lucky to have you.
best cars are 1995-2005 a little earlier on imports best of high performance/longevity AND only needed computers
@@MDAdams72668 pretty much I shouldn't need a module to put my windows up/down lol
Would it have been an interesting idea to scope the solenoid control signal? Your videos are great, I hope you do not loose interest in posting new ones!
That's why I left it unplugged to remove that variable. It should be set at the base timing with the solenoids unhooked. But that's a great question
@@SouthMainAuto I think also a measurement with 2nd vvt solenoid unplugged would have been good because we saw the values read 0 for either unplugged. Maybe if the one bank stays locked the retard of the chain would be slightly be more or less retarded (compounded problem vvt gears i think they wear out a lot on hyundai / kia. ) I 100% agree with the diag though... the covers have to come off regardless. Hopefully not multiple components plus chains. $$$$$
One thing that did seem odd to me is that the engine did run pretty smooth, so I wouldn't be surprised if it's the sensor cam trigger that has moved.
Your right maybe a bore scope down the cam sensor hole might have been beneficial. Michael
@@michaelsapko1731
this is how mechanics talk dirty to each other,
right here 😗
@@Zupdood2I love it when you guys talk dirty
Didn't PHD have one of those?
That or there's different sensors snd wrong one is installed maybe left and right are different as cams spin opposite
My daughter has a 2021 Kia Seltos with about 70,000+ miles. She bought it new. Her engine light came on and the car stalled but restarted. She took it to her usual shop and they said it was showing codes P000b and P0017 and should go to the dealer. She brought it to the dealer, and they found the exhaust cam phaser was loose. It must have also damaged the cam because they replaced both the cam and the phaser. They also replaced a couple of oil seals. The work was done under warrantee at no charge to her. Her car is running great again. She got lucky it was still under warrantee. It was the first trouble she had with the car.
You shouldn't expect that kind of trouble at 70k. Best she sell it before the warranty expires. These engines are junk.
I agree, but she won't trade it right now. She's old enough to make her own choices. I'm sure she will trade it when it starts costing her money. lol @@vicarod
@@vicarodI strongly agree.
That's a lot stuff for a 2+ year old car...
@@michaelsnively3621 exactly , something you would expect from say 150 k miles
Can I come up there from Georgia for a summer and pay you to stand there and watch you and learn? Cuz your knowledge is astronomical.
I'm just curious why the other shop thought that coils and plugs would fix it.....
🤷♂️
The PID will drop from scan data because the reference voltage signal has open circuit too. Without reference voltage no valid data, if reference is provided.
What reference voltage? Eric unplugged the phasor solenoid not the camshaft sensor. If a reference voltage or +5V supply is involved, it's in the sensor circuit, and that was still connected.
The other shops “diagnostic fees” are just the tow bill to SMA.
Overall it's probably cheaper to send it to SMA than it is to spend the time trying to work it out themselves.
Though in this case it might have been the last straw for them. In this case, they "...couldn't do it!"
You, Sir, are the Wizard of auto diagnostics!
Mr.O. You are a lucky guy to have Mrs.O. She should have her own UA-cam Channel.
I have the feeling she's juuuust fine showing up here and there as she does. That said, I'm not against an Mrs. O channel, nosirs/madams.
You lost me when you started talking about pulling out your tri corder and using the phaser on it. I figured I'm out of my comfort zone in this video. 😀
The car is dead Jim!
Oh wait, that is Scottys department. 😂
LOL@@zoidberg444
Its always cool to see you use the scope and go though your process to find the issue, i hope to see a follow up, thanks eric
Hopefully we get a follow-up if the car owner decides to repair.
3 minutes in and already have an idea of what this is going to be. My Kia had same signs and symptoms at 104k miles. Timing guards are plastic and wore out . Had it repaired but the motor still failed at 118k.
You won't get much than that out of a Kia engine
@@gianfrancoaMy 07 Hyundai Azera 3.8L V6 had over 201,000mi on it before it got totaled. My mom has a 2010 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L non GDI with over 230,000mi on it. Still running, original powertrain. Older engines were pretty reliable. 2011 and up are the ones with issues.
@@MTTech yes I agree. They are having a lot of issues with engines lately
If you don't change the oil and do regular maintenance, NO engine will give good service. So many folks blame the brand, when the big factor is the nut behind the wheel.
@@MTTech My 2012 Santa Fe 3.5L V6 has 280K on it.
Hey Eric, please forgive what is probably a really dumb question, but as far as simulating a cylinder pressure test, couldn't you just do a relative compression test via current draw test on the starter and crank the engine in clear-flood mode (if it has one) or by disabling the injectors? I would think if all cylinders on that bank were consistently off (by a common delta), that would offer the same result? Thanks as always, Eric.
It would show the cylinders on that bank do not have compression... maybe. Depending on the situation the cylinders may actually have good compression. But even if they don't, this test can lead to many other possible results beyond the cam being out of time. Bent valves, cracked head/cylinders, head gasket... Of course, some of those would have other symptoms probably... but we've seen stranger results.
Yeah I’d think you might notice a 10-20% difference on all the cylinders on bank 1 if the actual valve timing is off.
Love the channel. I wonder if you had zoomed in the time scale (for more accuracy) if the scope would have measured closer to the 25 degrees reported by the ECM. Hope we get to see you open up the cover and fix it.
14° between cams is 28° crank to cam offset.
ECU thinks in crank angle and Eric measured cam angle.
@@philippintheus Thanks!
thats cool Kia figured out how to make a chain last no longer than the belt it replaced... Now that is engineering
when the other shops can't fix the problem they send the vehicle to south main auto 👍
Don't forget Factory authorized Wilberts😊
They don't call it the money light for nothing. Montana registration should fix this right up.
Sir love the content and this my be cheesy but the whole "I can do it you can do it" well i got a cheep old 2012 chev abs engine light traction all the xmas lights on so it was cheep it took me 3 days lol and i got them all out and safetied the truck. Broken wire to and abs sensor,fuel rail pressure sensor and pin 2 5 volt ref in the fscm. Its all stuff i seen on your channel lucky strike i guess lol
I'm curious how this situation is handled. Who pays who for this work and does the car owner know the car was sent elsewhere?
I was thinking the same thing.
No different than sending a cylinder head out for rebuilding. Shop pays eric and then just charges a "diagnostic fee" to cover it. Customer probably doesn't even need to know.
Obviously the other shop. 😂
The other shop pays South Main, the other shop passes that on to the customer (either at cost or marked up). They may or may not tell the customer. There's no shame in a shop having someone more knowledgeable do work when it's something they can't figure out.
Not only does the customer get to pay for the "real" diagnosis after it gets sent out to Eric O, they get to pay for all the random parts that the "other shop" decided to throw at it, to not fix the issue. It's a shame there are so many mechanics that seem to be able to make a living at other peoples expense, by just guessing their way through, rather than learning how to actually diagnose problems
2 of my favorite channels are SMA and Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics
I think Ivan had one where the phaser had shifted or was installed wrong and was degrees out. A new Cam fixed it.
Just let the team of Eric and the Mrs. do the repair. That way it will be repaired properly.
Brother, I for one are jealous of your knowledge, keep teaching us what we don't know.
Who knows, maybe a blessing in disguise that you didn't venture into underwear color detection mode...
It's amazing to see you're getting 100k+ views on your vids just a few hours after posting, that's more than the whole population of Steuben County, Your content and editing keeps getting bettter and better, keep it up Eric, 1M subs are around the corner big milestone ahead. Kudos!
Took you 4min in the Video to diagnose its problems and other shops sent it to you.
You're really the diagnostic king! Greetings from Quebec Canada
"Have we gone too far? Or have others not gone far enough?" Name the year, make, and model on that one. I bet Eric O knows it.
When something throws that many cam timing codes and has a chain, its almost certainly a stretched timing chain or broken guides. Super common problem on multiple engines. Stretched chains are not always noisy. Typically, if you want less chain wear, change the oil at decent intervals, not the bullsh1t 15,000km's /10,000 miles.
After market Phaser sounds like one!!
Sedona’s not worth spending the money on. 👎🏻
Nice video Eric, I had one that kicked my but it was a Sedona, after putting a new belt on it it still was out of phase , I found it had sheared the index pin off the cam, I'd have them pull the gear and check the pin
The cam gear has moved , you have to remove the gear to verify but I've seen this about 10 different times on these engines
@@bowmanjim31 looks like to me I would just find a used lower millage motor and replace it.. Looks like a labor intensive job just to take apart an 09 van and expose the timing chain and gears to see what the problem is and hope that is the problem
The phrase "If I can do it, you can do it" sounds strange when another shop couldn't do it
Been watching for years. I've picked up a lot of diagnostic practices from this guy. I know it's saved me and my customers money over the years. Imagine if this customer brought the car in before unloading the parts cannon.
❤ السلام عليكم ورحمه الله وبركاته اني صاحب ورشه تصليح سيارات من العراق ومتابع من فتره للقناة
Eric O’…We love it when you get the Pico out and show us Waveforms!!
Since you are smart enough to diagnose this the customer should opt. To have YOU fix it!
I dare say unless the customer is a UA-cam fan of SMA (in which case they would have brought it there in the first place), the customer will never know it left the other shop. They will just add whatever they paid Mr O to diag it (plus double it for profit) to the customers "Diagnostic Fee."
Great diag.! Love following along , tests my self taught mind ! Thanks !
Sad too that Kia has made hundreds of thousands of cars and this fault probably has raised its head many times, but will they let the public know? Thanks Eric for you most enlightening and entertaining work.👍
The dry door hinges says it all on maintenance
Yeah...even the screen door squawks on a diesel boat...if ignored!!
Oh my gosh, that's the first thing that popped into my head with the door. That creak would drive me nuts.
Well i got an old truck, sprayed the door hinges with lube, the driver's door still squawks. As long as it runs well, and gets me where i want to go, i couldn't care less at this point. Hinges aren't worn either. Low mileage as well.
Had a Jeep with a 3. similar concern. Customer declined pulling the value covers and checking for chain stretch.
As a shop Knowing that there is Cam timing codes. Why would you even shoot parts at at if you have 0 clue what you are even looking at. That's just dumb and ridiculous! Kudos Eric
The parts cannon rarely hits where it was aimed.
Great video and diagnosis. Good to know that the data stopped reading when unplugged.
I see the glasses dangling around your neck. I guess you finally gave in to them. 😂😂
Love your videos. Few questions. Where did you go to school to learn all this? How long have you been doing this work? Have you always worked for yourself? If not, what kinds of shops did you work for? Dealerships or private shops? I'm amazed at your knowledge. One day I wanna be as good as you are.
There are some older videos that go into it, but he grew up working in his dad's shop on heavy diesel rigs, then eventually graduated into his own shop because he didn't like working in his dad's shop. His brother still runs a heavy diesel shop. I know he didn't go to college (from one video awhile back, "we'll give it the 'ol college try, and if it doesn't work it's cuz I didn't go to college" 😂), and I don't think he's mentioned going to any kind of trade school, but I'm not sure.
@@omaristephens2143 Well I have to say I am beyond impressed. I can only wish I was as good. Maybe one day!
Yeah the above comment is right. I grew up working on heavy diesel and equipment. Got kicked out of school in 10th grade. Never went to college. That's the cliff notes version 👍🏼
@@SouthMainAuto Ah, so a heavy dose of "Special High Intensity Training". (Look up the memo on that.) I've always looked at it as learning what you have to to deal with the task you've been handed.
you are a graduate of the school of hard knocks!@@SouthMainAuto
Your scan data showed 25* and your waveform showed only 15*, You did drag down a CMP wave over the CKP wave and I was waiting for you to possibly show 10* of chain stretch?? Thanks for the DIAG & the known good, as always, much appreciated.
I use to work at shop in 2014. Thier was guy brought car with code stating EGR related. He owned the shop. It's was customer car. He himself chaged every component of EGR and still couldn't fix problem. My Manger gave me that vehicle.i checked for vaccum line and find no suction.I found thier was small steel ball stuck in vaccum line. Causing EGR not to work. I removed ball and check engine light never cane back. Guy did even say thanks. He owned that shop that couldn't figure out problem.
The fact that you verify your diagnosis sets you apart from a LOT of techs. It's amazing to see how many parts-cannon cars you get to work on. Now I will ask this question again (someone out there should be willing to answer it): How can a shop/mechanic charge the customer parts & labor for a job/problem that they did not fix? If I hire a plumber to fix a leak & he replaces parts that don't fix the leak - why should I be expected to pay him?
The same reason you pay your doctor to do tests and prescribe medication that sometimes doesn't fix the problem.
Another Great Video. Hope the original shop gives you credit for being able to figure out the timing problem when they present their findings to the customer. Also, must be nice to know that other shops look up to you to figure out things they can't figure out. Love your video keep them coming!
You are a very good teacher. I wish my college instructors were half as good as teaching as you are.
Hey Eric! Our '06 Sonata with the big 3.3 six was in the shop almost when it was new for upgraded cam chain tensioners, and Ed the mechanic said one cam was off, and that was when the car was a year or two old. This is my first and last Hyundai.
Yet here it is 17 years later and you still have it?
Ed Sutton ? Ed’s a great guy will tell you the truth and if he can or not fix it only ever had one problem he couldn’t fix at the time one of the good guys
Here in Flagstaff, Aridzona we are about 30 miles from, Sedona and the Oak Creek area. Named after the Wife of a local Dutch married couple, Sedona Schnebly, was the wife of Theodore Schnebly, one of many white settlers. Born in Missouri, Sedona was born into the Miller family, Sedona is one of many relatives I have in the ground around me here in northern AZ. Sedona is worth the trip!
5:00 just noticed how the stupid plastic cover on these engines has fake intake piping molded into it, I was surprised to see this van had a longitudinal engine until the cover came off 🤦♂
Eric, is the guys name at the other shop "scotty "? I ALWAYS learn something from you as your comment to timing usually being retarded due to wear, never advanced unless it was monkeyed with. Eric, if there was a trouble shooting contest between you, Scotty and Ray, you would kick Ars my man. Keep em coming.
I have a 2015 Kia Soul Exclaim. It has 90K miles on it and I’ve been having trouble with it for over 10K miles. Got a new transmission, new spark plugs. They told me the last three oil changes (I get done every 3K miles) that I burned just under a quart each time - but that was normal - that I had to burn OVER a quart each oil change to be considered for an engine replacement. Some time ago - I did get that software update and they told me that increased my warranty to 150K miles, instead of 100K - but it was only on the “lower engine”.
This past time - they told me that I needed special seals on the car that only they can open in order to officially check the oil loss. I asked why they didn’t do this at least two oil changes ago - and they couldn’t answer. They did say on my receipt that the oil they took out was dark and burned looking.
So - this time they did the oil change and some sort of combustion cleaning and they added some sort of additive that corporate says they have to add - along with the seals in order to start the process to be approved for an engine replacement (I though 2 oil changes ago I was in that process!). I asked to see the bottle - and couldn’t see any ingredients. My cousin said if it had Teflon or silicone in it - that would be like putting a bandaid on a bruise - it is only hiding the problem.
So - brought the car home (it is my ONLY car!) and the next morning - when I drove it - there was knocking and shaking - so I revved the engine a bunch of times and it went away for that day. Worked from home for a few days - then had to go out at 5 a.m. this Monday. Drove out about a half mile and it felt like I was going over a million large speed bumps. Revving didn’t help - when I would slow down for any reason it felt like the car was going to stall. Then when I would speed up again - it would bump terribly and I felt like I was fighting the gas pedal to get it to accelerate. I had a medical appt I had to get to - so made it to that - and then drove straight to the dealership - which was about 2 miles away (getting to my medical appt was 45 terrifying minutes).
I walked in, embarrassingly, burst into tears, and they took it back to look at it. The advisor came out 10 minutes later and told me I had “scoring” on my cylinders and that I had been assigned an advisor that was going to contact corporate immediately for an engine replacement. He told me the car wasn’t safe to drive - that it would “sieze” up on me on the freeway.
Five minutes later, he called me to the front desk and told me he had “great” news. He said I had passed all my “combustion tests” (I don’t even know what those are) - and that the little “scratches” on the cylinders was incidental and was fine. He then said they knew what the problem was and - sort of in a “gotcha” way - after I said - ok what is the problem - he lifted up a small container from behind his desk - slapped it down in front of me - and loudly said “You put bad gas in your car!”. He said gas should be perfectly clear and he said this gas was slightly yellow and he said it had 22% ethanol in it - instead of 10%. I said I went to a major gas station that everyone goes to and how could this be. So - I asked for a manager and I told him I couldn’t afford a rental car - so he agree for scaring me saying the car was not safe to drive - they gave me a loaner and they are flushing out the fuel, cleaning, then refilling, and doing another oil change. He said all I have to pay for is the $30 fuel filter. I asked if the “combustion cleaning” and additive they put in last week could have anything to do with this - because I said aside from burning oil - before they did that last week - my car drove just fine - no shaking, bumping, or flashing/solid check engine light. He said no - that was not it and when they turned the car on when I brought it in just hours before - they said the check engine light was not on all. He finally did admit that cylinders 2 and 4 were having problems - but that was because of “my” bad fuel.
He said I needed to get in touch with the gas station and tell them their fuel was bad. Then he said I needed to call them and give them the gas station manager’s name and number. I did all that.
Now it is Wednesday and I haven’t heard a peep. I am scared they are trying to mask whatever is wrong - because they told me Monday afternoon - that once they cleaned the fuel lines - that everything would be fine and we’d be back to checking the oil from under the seals every 1K miles to see if I burn more than ONE QUART in 1K miles (the story was every 3K miles, now it is 1K) - so that I can be “considered” for an engine replacement. I’ve got 2 years and just under 10K miles left on my powertrain warranty - are they trying to drag this out so I don’t need the replacement until it is my responsibility?
I can’t afford to trade this car in or get another car for at least two years - so I am so worried - I did overhear (I was around the corner - he didn’t see me) - the service advisor on the phone sounding exasperated with a customer - saying “You will have to be patient, you are SEVENTH in line for an engine replacement.”…..so I wonder - they don’t want me to be the eighth?
What words can I use to make sure my and my family’s safety is the number one priority when they give me my car back - and they tell me it will be ok? Thanks for any advice.
Even in our shop, we’re having to send things out. We’re 2 weeks behind, many parts are on back order or there is a national backlog on modules, PCM/ECMs. Domestic cars are having serious issues due to this strike. The UAW has the Big 3 by the throat.
Typically speaking the forward most cyl is bank one... Unless you are working on a FORD... Who also likes to number their cyls funny as compared to community standards, but that's how they are built, opposite of community standards lol
If you ever going to be buying a minivan.Only buying a Toyota.Stay aways from Honda because of their weak transmission.Chrysler and Hyundai are always have both engines and transmissions always have problems.When the minivan are getting old around 80 to 100 thousand miles and up..
Shocker: the codes, which are made to tell you when the cam is out of time, told us the cam was out of time 😂
Good video, brother! Keep up the great diags. Im Learning every day!
Eric, what is your opinion switching from Mobile oil to some thing like Castrol edge? It’s my understanding to stick with the correct viscosity suggested for your car, and to stay with at least the equivalent rating, like SF or SG. I’ve also watched a little bit of Rainman Ray, but you’re still the master.
My Sedona is a 2010 with 3.5 V6. Noob question but are the cam phasers supposed to be locked at idle or engine off ? I have one exhaust phaser locked and one that rotates with engine off, Can anyone advise ?
Ive been fixing up my 2009 Kia Rio 5 speed. Owners before me didn’t replace or maintain anything on it all they did was run it. Hate when no one maintains there vehicle 🙄🙄
Scotty did a video on this engine on Genesis he did mentioned about cam timing off comparing to a Lexus. Not surprised, it's another pos Kia/Hyundai garbage my country makes and I don't approve.
Love that twisted cam vid. Did not expect that
20:22 Have you ever seen reasoning, why they do that?(out of normal range is "ok" ex. on temp sensor, but on timing, that is still going on?)
I mean that tool/car, just lie to you.
And you should just know that?
Interesting. I probably didn't say anything, but I left automotive. I'm now a boat mechanic. Big learning curve. That said, they are starting to use cam phasher on outboard motors nowadays. I'm not sure why the boat industry is so far behind on technology, but they are. Outboards are nice to work on. Stern drives not so much. I never thought I would be rebuilding carberautors again. Lol
Cars r so stupid lets just go back to a push rod engines please
I've got a variable valve timing pushrod general motors in here right now and the cam timing is off.
I'd like a video of what Mrs. O was doing!
Eric, Thanks for the insight! What about closure? How am I supposed to sleep at night not knowing if it actually fixed it. I mean I trust you more than any mechanic I ever knew but at least tell us? We trust your honesty!
Kia Sedona was the absolute worst car we owned. Motor Died at 40k miles. Absolutely everything broke on that pos. I shiver thinking about it.
I bought an 09 Sedona 5 yrs ago with only 80 k on it, didn't make it to 90 k before the engine blew, even though I kept the fluids spotless and never drove it hard. I suspect that KIA in Korean means crap
I will smoke a shoulder, you, Ray, A-Rod…. Scotty, if you want him?
Just imagine the gathering.
A 2009 KIA with an Unlimited Number of Codes is a Great Choice of a Vehicle that is Ready to go to Heaven. 😬👍
You are the best diagnostic technician on UA-cam. Scanner Danner, diagnose Dan are close but every time I watch one of your videos I learned something new and not only about vehicles but about logical thinking as well. Do you have any other channels that you would recommend as far as teaching goes? Thank you.
Eric, why doesn't the other shops just hang a sign, "Please go to South Main auto for real mechanical issues. All we're good at is changing tire monitors."
Here's an idea: Come up with a "substitute" phaser. It could be a resistor or an old just part. Just so it doesn't set a circuit code. That saves you from setting up the pico.
What’s the difference between current, pending, and permanent codes? I’m hoping to become a mechanic apprentice so I’d definitely appreciate the opportunity to learn here. Thanks!
Kia in most cases has model data and perceived data . You may find a difference in OBD data and generic data. Always check both or scope your signal to confirm your suspicions . I am a retired KIA master tech and this fact will get you if you are not aware ! Your diag skills are 2nd to none .
14 degrees sounds like TWO teeth on the camshaft sprocket. Each camshaft tooth is about 7 or 8 degrees. Did cam belt skip couple tooth on the rear camshaft?
Stretching a chain…we use that term loosely! 😂🇨🇦
Ironically the Shop that couldn't fix it and sent it to Eric, will add a surcharge to what Eric charges them. Profit without Production, the Sad State of Business today