LOL, that is true. But considering the number of motherboards with bent pins on EBAY right now...maybe hearing that two minute explanation a few times would be good for some people.
Just a note, it's not a good idea to touch the gold plates on the back of the cpu, as your finger oil will corrupt connection integrity. It's better to just hold it by the sides, and not touch any of the electronics.
It's gold plated. Trust me I work in manufacturing, if just a touch of your fingers caused corrosion then every manufactured part in the world would be made in a clean room.
@@dazlad926 Wait so this is just one of those gamer pc building tips that don't actually hold? I've believed this for a long ass time. Crazy how something wrong can just spread like malice on the internet.
Also DO NOT EVER Touch the gold pads on bottom of the CPU! EVER. Any tiny grease or contamination on your fingers will damage the gold and even cause conductive issues / heat issues
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Although it was an informative video, I would recommend to anyone reading the comments to NEVER touch the underside of the processor! The oils from your fingers can get on the pads not to mention anything else that might be your hands. And NEVER place the processor pad side down on a table. It should go from the protective case it came in, to the socket. Don't fiddle fuck around with it. You risk contaminating the socket with dust and other crap you might have on the surface you placed it on. unbox it --> insert in socket. Period. Cheers!
The thermal paste over spilling a bit (being squeezed out - after you screw down your cooler) usually isn't a problem - - - except, if you use liquid metal. All you know is your pc is up and running and you're happy - on with life. Meanwhile, over time, that liquid metal is secretly acting like an acid and eroding those metal parts outside of the cooler contact area - that it spilled over. Problems may arise later.
Thanks for the warning about the paste slapping the CPU onto the pins when lifting it out. I will hold the CPU down with my finger while lifting the trnsion bracket. ❤️
Literally building my first pc, and my buddy is gone on vacation atm, but i have a massive builder boner going. Im scared but REALLY want to build RIGHT NOW!
Idiots like those above don’t appreciate how common this is. It’s the leading cause of tens of thousands of motherboard returns. Have stead hands and nailed it? Good for you. Thousands of others don’t know how easy it is to bend the pins. If I prevent one person from doing it this video was worthwhile and I make zero apologies to anyone that found it funny. I find it funny they had the time to come here and comment to be honest. 🤪
@CrazyTechLab honestly, glad I did watch it. Gave me the patience I needed to put it together right. I didn't think it would be difficult, but I wanted to take as many precautions with an expensive piece of equipment I'm unfamiliar with. Now my board is all put together, just waiting for my PSU and some board screws and I'll have my first successful build. So thank you, you have at least one person right here who you helped to avoid possible issues. Much appreciated👍.
Awesome video mate thanks, especially for the tips about thermal paste and backplate compatibility. Even if this short vid stops one person mangling their pins it's worth it! Been there and dont wish to repeat!
Thank you for the demonstration. Going to start my first AM5 build in the next few months so I’m learning as much as I can beforehand. I’ve only built with AM4 in the past.
that's why I bought the Thermalright AM5 CPU Holder, Corrective Anti-Bending Fixing Frame, AM5 Full-fit Fixed Non-Marking Mounter, AM5 Anti-Bending to avoid damage to my pins when pullout the cpu and to maintain much better clean from the thermal paste
Just put a finger on the CPU holding it down while opening the latch and lifting the hold down bracket to keep thermal paste from lifting the CPU potentially dropping it onto the pins
@@FrgottenFrshness Ah sorry! I thought you meant leave the paste on there and just hold the CPU. If you clean it first then hopefully you wouldn’t need to use a finger unless the PC is upright and the CPU could fall out.
I gotta be honest, I like the new socket and locking system. I remember when I installed my first am4 cpu and had to reseat it and remove the heat sink, the heat sink ripped out the locked cpu and a bunch of pins got bent. Never had the ripping out with the cpu happen with lga sockets. I was lucky the cpu was just a placeholder for a later upgrade, so I just upgraded earlier :D
had this happen once to me but miraculously the pins did not bend. from then on i gently rotated the cooler left and right while GENTLY pulling up until it budged nice and easy. btw, when that happens its generally speaking a sign that you used too much paste
@@AGRACUTA I think the rotating was actually what damaged the pins. I think the best way is to run a quick stress test to heat up the paste (at least if you can actually boot the OS), then it's much easier. I actually took out that broken cpu a couple of weeks ago, and spent an hour straightening the pins with a razorblade. Fortunately the cpu still works. But it could've ended very differently.
@@LaughingMan44 no you actually don't. The locking mechanism is pretty weak. But I also had the dumb stock heat sink with the two clips and the lever (instead of screws), so it's exceptionally hard to loosen the heat sink without lifting the cpu out if the paste sticks to it.
If you bent those pins it will not kill the motherboard. I messed up before used tweezer and plastic card bent back 8 to 10 pins in place and its working fine.
Depends how badly you bend them. I’ve been successful in most attempts but not all. Also with socket AM5 the tolerance for the pins being in the right place after you bent them is extremely fine. There are so many pins that each one has to be in precisely the right place. It’s far easier to fix bent pins on an old Intel motherboard that is on socket AM5 or even LGA 1700
I don't wish to criticise but when you put the CPU into the socket GENTLY a little wiggle is needed to make sure that the CPU is seated properly just like with Intel LGA CPU's.
thanks for this! as many times as I've built over the years, I'm still just a hobbyist... it's been a while, and never hurts to learn the latest tricks when you're putting a $600 chip on a $400 mobo! ❤
Over the years, I've never had an issue with LGA socket. So straight forward and never damage a pin on the board. But on a AM3 CPU, an AMD phenom 955 and I was removing the heatsink, the thermal paste stuck solid and I pulled the CPU out the locked socket and bent 3 pins, I manage to get the pins straighten enough to fit back into the socket and locked it back into position and I was extremely lucky it booted and that CPU went on for another 2 years before I upgraded.
Literally just did this when changing my cooler a week ago, bent a bunch of pins and couldn’t fix 😭so today I just upgraded everything 😂hello new PC ahahah
@@cameronevans242 it can happen to anyone, that PC build included a pre built motherboard bundle and the cpu heatsink was included and was already installed, they completely covered the CPU with so much thermal paste and when it dried out it was stuck solid, in hindsight I should have booted the pc for while and then left it off and then changed the heatsink letting the thermal paste liquify so I could remove the heatsink a little easier. Since then I build my PC's completely myself, always applied the right amount of thermal paste. Enjoy your new PC 🙂
@@wink1eafc774 is it better to install an air cooled tower before putting the motherboard to the case or after? because if you put the cpu cooling heatsink then putting it on the case, i think it will be hard to install an io right?
@@wink1eafc774 it would not be hard to plug in the usb header or power cable to it later on? also the psu should come after all the cpu area is done?(including cooler on top of it like you said)
Wish I saw this before I killed my board. My first install went fine, but the second time I decided to slightly smudge the CPU into place and that put the board out of commission. (Still thinking on the easiest way to get the CPU out if that happens.. Tilt the board?) They really do seem to be annoying to remove. Despite the snobby know-it-alls in the comments, I appreciate the explanation and video.
I've bricked two AM5 boards already because of this crappy socket and these absurdly fragile pins. Yes, it may well be down to user error in my case of course but on the other hand I really think AMD should never have adopted this socket technology as its costing people money when these pins break off or are so easily bent. I have one working AM5 board just now, but I dare not remove the cpu for upgrading any time soon as I might break the board lol. I just hope future revisions of this socket will improve and the pins are made less fragile.
@@soulzgamer7589mate, exactly same here, never had any issues with my old intell 1155, im fucking livid, will the CPU be ok ? I was so carefull, when it's in can I wiggle it to make sure it's in place? Anyway, I tried booting but got nothing, ram light orange, CPU red, took it apart noticed bent pins, shat my pants. So angry.
honestly, it seems like if you are just putting in the cpu the way you should be doing it anyway, it's pretty hard to break any pins on the motherboard
I'll take that as a complement :) It is! But the issue is, if you're coming from AMD, this is new and bent pins are one of the leading causes of dead motherboards - the RMA rate is HUGE and it's much easier than you think to bend the pins. I've received review samples rotated from professional journalists with bent pins and numerous friends who've sent me photos of bent pins when their PC fails to turn on asking 'is this bad?' It seems simple to those of us who have had socket pins for years, but even if I prevent one person from mashing them, this video was worth it. Also, with LGA1700 and now also Socket AM5, there are SO many pins that bending them back once bent is nearly impossible as the pin and pads are so small and margin for error so fine.
Appreciate your hard work. I have ordered a AMD Ryzen 7 7700 and want to add it to Asus TUF Gaming B650 Motherboard. I wanted to know if i need to use thermal paste after adding CPU? I guess the CPU Comes with a CPU Cooler from AMD (Fan CPU Cooler) but not sure.
The AMD coolers usually have thermal paste pre applied. But you ALWAYS need thermal paste. If it's pre-applied, great. If not the cooler usually comes with a tube of it.
Thanks for taking time in explaining this. At the very least, builders should take their time at this step especially. I am wondering if bent socket pins is grounds for the manufacturer to void the warranty? I do know there is a note with my motherboard (MSI) that says boards returned without a socket cap will not be accepted.
I just received one with bent pins from Newegg, the socket cap was off and floating around in the bag. So I guess they accept them, then ship them out without checking.
Although your video is roughly 8 months old, I just stumbled across it and watched it because I have been kicking around the idea of building an AMD Ryzen 7900 AM5 system and I’ve always been very concerned about accidentally ‘bending pins’ - in the past - on the AMD and now that worry has been transferred to worry about bending pins in a motherboard’s socket. (“You never get something for nothing…!) Anyway, as a result I watched your video and as I did, a few ideas which may or may not have merit ‘popped into my mind’. (Before I go any further, I am especially concerned more than many people because I’m 77 years old and “mine hands, they ain’t as steady as they used to be” and, ‘ditto’, when it comes to my ‘grip’ on things and I am probably considerably more likely to drop in situations like this then most people and so, as I watched your video, I wondered if I could come up with some POSSIBLE GOOD IDEAS to mitigate the risk. Now, I have never built a PC for myself wherein the pins were in the motherboard but, after roughly watching your video, here are a couple of ideas I had, that PERHAPS you might wish to consider and assess - based on your experience in this area which I do not have - whether or not they might have merit. Here goes: First of all, one concerned is - as you pointed out - that one might conceivably drop the processor accidentally onto the pins in the socket, perhaps at an ANGLE, resulting in damage the pins, something could obviously happen. So what you think of THIS IDEA: Might it be possible and useful in a safety sense to - say - cutting a strip of suitably wide and suitably long PAPER from say an 8.5” x 11” printer paper AND, laying it down and possibly even using without being too excessive and going crazy with it - perhaps some cellophane tape to hold it in place while you proceed to POSITION the processor over the socket and its pins while you do this AND, once the processor is ‘100% in the right location’, while holding the processor in position to prevent it from moving sideways or up and down, pulling/siding the paper out from underneath the CPU - GENTLY, so that the processor simply has to/can - perhaps - space wise - if it happened to be constrained by the orientation pins and indentations, from moving laterally? A slight variation on this: What if two pieces of paper were used - they might even and probably shouldn’t could OVERLAP a bit in the middle of the socket protect all the pins. The idea here would be that one might then say - pull only one strip of the paper out - at which ever end seems more appropriate - in the sense that it would be the first and to ‘receive pressure’ as one turned the lever to lock the processor in place. Perhaps simply flipping the lever over and letting whatever light pressure it might exert on the processor would be sufficient enough to permit the second piece of paper to be slid out from underneath the CPU such that the entire processor drops into place? Another idea might be to - if one could conceive of some gentle way - of creating a little platform made of wood perhaps - and be careful not to drop it - to which say of thread could be attached which in turn could be appropriately sufficiently well attached - stuck to the top four corners of the CPU - which could then be spent the processor - dangling from these threads - over the socket and maneuvered precisely into place - for attempting to lock it down. Then, when the processor was in precisely the right location, one could probably - I would imagine - after watching the entire process - managed to find a way to disconnect or cut the threads in question either close to the platform from which they were hanging OR - as close as possible to the CPU ASSUMING that you don’t want to try to COMPLETELY remove them/pull them off - until the clamping lever was fully seated and locked in place? I think you’ll probably get the idea from the description I’ve given. Another way to think about it: Imagine how space sex manages to PRECISELY - HAVE TO PRECISELY POSITION the upper stages of Falcon 9 AND Starship rockets - to straightly tiny fractions of an inch - before lowering them into place and perhaps installing some sort of explosive bowls or something - to fasten them together? They do it by dangling the upper stages and slowly but surely maneuvering them around and positioning them before finally lowering them in place. I would be very interested to hear your thoughts on the matter, YOU having had hands on experience in doing this. This may be overkill for some people but, I can assure you - for older people whose hands and grips may not be that steady, if it would work, I think it would be worth trying to do it using some sort of say - dangle the CPU from a sort of ‘fixture’ using say at least three, possibly four pieces of thread and then simply lowering the CPU precisely into position. Whad ya think?
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@@vaarius6737 Kind of a pain even the low end ones are relatively expensive. I like having lots of features and accessories, but that's going to cost upwards of $400/£400! :/
I'm only just switching over from AM4 to AM5 and I'm aware of almost every shortfalls on the CPU old pin array setup. Many times I had to use my credit card to straighten out those bent pins. Nevertheless, I don't want to go into this blindly, your video has put me in good stead and thank you for over extending the things that could possibly go wrong with AM5.
Glad to hear it. I get a lot of people complaining about the length of the video but I really, really, really wanted to stress how easy it is to damage the pins. Even following basic guides is still seeing bent pins as the leading cause of motherboard RMAs so it's clear they're not enough. If I ram it into your brain then hopefully you won't ever be in that situation!
Not long, you just went over and above and kudos to you! Even experience PC builders make silly mistakes. Bending pins and thermal paste stuck to your cooling fan are the biggest pitfalls. So glad AM5 has a retention bracket! Thermal paste on AM4 has its own art, run the PC for twenty minutes, unscrew the holding screws diagonally from the AM4 PC Cooler, then very gently swerve the cooler left and right a few times, then pull gently....oooops, no it usually works :)@@CrazyTechLab
Fitting the CPU is pretty much foolproof due to the two grooves top and bottom on the CPU which are left of the centre of the CPU and line up with the grooves in the motherboards CPU socket.
Okay so I know I am a year late to the party but I am about to build my first AM5 build. After watching this video and seeing how one must be careful about thermal paste in light of the AM5's design how much paste should one apply?
I did the exact same thing before. To push down this metalstick i need to use extrem strength. Is this normal? Its my second motherboard and issue happened 2 times... What do i do wrong? And if i want to start my pc it shows the yellow q-led and nothing wants to start.
I hate this new socket on AMD boards as I've already damaged pins on two AM5 boards and its effectively knackered them. It's not even clear what causes them to bend, accidentally dropping the cpu in incorrectly or even friction underside when installing the cooler. One thing is for sure is it's a very costly mistake to make.
Just did it myself and I'm always so carefull. Im so furious with rage, 160 quid down drain. Brought new board, with great anger, now I'm dreading it. Happens again I give up. It should not be this fuckin easy to bend them ffs. You only have to look at them wrong. Urgh. Livid.
Perhaps one day, the sockets will become duo-universal. With a long-term change like that, the Intel vs. AMD feud would likely shift away from the generation of the CPU and more towards chipset features, processing power, integrated graphics, and other things like that.
Yeah they changed it Cuz they thought they could beat Intel Ata what they do, lol Ah... Silly AMD you'll NEVER beat intel... A. L M. ost D. ere as always
@@roccociccone597 nah dude. Just like their gpu's they are late to the game Also what they've done is blow thier load I basically an entire fiscal year Cuz they brought out the the 7k high end sereis of cpu and gpu's the shortly after that they brought out the low end versions of them then after that they brought out the 3d versions of them......same thing with the gpu's. They have nothing left to show for the next 2-3 years MAYBE expect for AI/servers tuff.....niw I'm not saying that I don't like AMD I just wish they would Stop trying to imitate Intel and Nvidia Now they are stuck on the Intel type socket and Stuck with the 7k series gpu's. If they had stuck with AM4 and just increased the cache like intel did with their architecture maybe they wouldn't need to imitate Intel's socket.... Sigh...
It's really not hard to prevent damaging your motherboard/socket pins. I've been building PC's since 1995. Have never damaged a single socket. Just place it in and close the lid. They only fit in one way.
Don't be :) The whole point of this video was to make people stop and think before they do this, especially for the first time. There's a reason why bent pins are one of the most common return reasons and also a reason people brick their PC. It's very easy to do it. Do it slowly and carefully and you'll be fine.
I have the Corsair h150i elite 360mm cooler and I was wondering if you think I’ll need an adapter or not? I just got the 7950x off launch and If you have any info on if it should fit I would appreciate it
Check with the manufacturer. NZXT has released a statement saying that even though their coolers use the stock backplate, they still need an adaptor to work 100% although they should still be okay. That’s not particularly clear from them but most if not all coolers that use the stock backplate should work.
When I installed my corsair aio I had to unscrew the brackets that come from the factory and then screw in the double end threaded screws and then seat the pump block on to the four screws and then use thumb screws to secure it tightening the thumb screws down thumb tight in an X pattern.
This reminds me of haswell days. That’s the last intel I built. I’ve been on ryzen since. Good to see LGA is still the same. Thank you. Me too brother! Waiting on the $3.99 ek 6/32 screw set. Cost me $14 for 4 screws. I wish Microcenter had them. I looked yesterday when I was picking up my order but nope! I grabbed a Corsair h150i rgb elite to use while I wait for the screws and a few fittings. I could have used my 240mm h100i pro, but I don’t like loud fans and it’s time for a new AIO. I switch coolers a fair amount. Get fed up with custom loop go back to aio. Rinse and repeat
forget the paste buy a thermal pad those are worth the extra. My CPU does not rise above 37C-38C, heavy gamming load mind you. It is 2.00mm thick. Gelid Solutions GP-Extreme 2.0mm Thermal Pad
Wish I could have seen this video first before installing CPU and not some random short one they didn't tell me that socket pins are super fragile and not like older AMD CPUs, I'm not an Intel user, so I didn't know, this is how I broke it
Ha ha! Nope I was using a waterblock with a large contact plate and this motherboard has had several CPUs tested in it over the last 48 hours. A bit of stray thermal paste is perfectly normal. :)
@@HyPeRXKo If it fits the standard AMD backplate for Socket AM4 then yes it should fit. I'm using an EK AIO right now and it fits fine. The new backplate has the same threads. The only situation things might not work is if the cooler does not use the standard backplate and has its own - mostly the case with some custom watercooling CPU waterblocks. Here, manufacturers will need to supply an adaptor kit. Most AIO liquid coolers such as NZXT and Corsair either use the standard backplate or the socket clips. The backplate on AM5 is exactly the same, but it's screwed to the socket this time, not just to the clips.
@@CrazyTechLab NZXT say we need an adapter for optimal performance, but it is still compatible apparently, no idea how since it is custom backplate (I think), a video Is a good idea since there is no answer on the entire internet on how to install it on the am5 platform :)
Hi.What type of cooler is better for 7700x? .Air cooler or Liquid.I like Dark Rock Pro 4 and Pure Loop 2 and FX.I am afraid for liqiud cooler it will cause damage later
@@antonius5195 It was sometimes possible in the past as the pins were bigger and less fragile. These days there are so many, they’re so small and tolerances so fine that it’s nearly impossible. I’d done it to a couple of modern boards and failed on every occasion to repair when in the past I’d usually be able to fix them. Definitely don’t want to damage pins on a modern board.
@@CrazyTechLab you just need a toothpick, another one that's broken in half for more precise movements, and an iphone zoom feature to check it out at the end. (also a rubber toothpick helps as I mentioned before)
@@dolpoof2335 Sadly not with current motherboards. I had a 100% success rate before socket AM5 and LGA1700. I’ve had a zero% success rate with them. The pins are too small and tolerances too fine. I’ve used a sewing pin - a tooth pick is far too big. You won’t even get between the pins with that. Even then the pins are 100 times more fragile and are far far more difficult to align back when bent. I’ve even used an electric microscope. It’s the main reason I did this video.
@@CrazyTechLab That's why you break the toothpick in half. Also the tolerances aren't as tight as you think. Still it can take hours and you might need to break a new toothpick.
Amd used PGA which was more robust and harder to damage and they support the same motherboard for multiple generations so when you need to upgrade you didn't have to buy all new hardware because of compatibility issues, which is why I switched to amd. Now I have no reason to stay, because amd no longer supports my motherboard When it comes time for upgrade I'm going back to Intel because I'm going to need all new hardware again. I didn't even get to benefit from using the motherboard for more than one cpu.😢
I just want to know if i have a new Mobo and new Ryzen 9 7000x, seems like it can just be put in the socket, my main concern is Thermal paste. I read its required if its being re-installed, but is thermal paste required for the first installs? ROG STRIX X670 mbo. Cause the video shows no thermal paste being applied until its mentioned at the end.
Query I have a ryzen 5900x with a liquid aorus waterface 360 version one of the aorus water cooling since the x360 version of aorus has now come out - my liquid will serve me to be able to mount my aorus master x670e and ryzen 7800x3d motherboard if the anchorage of my liquid am4 It will help me to install and what temperatures should I have when playing greetings from Chile thanks
No one can tell you unfortunately. It depends on ambient air temperature, case temperature, thermal paste application and so many other things. Don’t expect low temperatures with the 7800X3D though. It’s common for well over 80’C under load.
Tis a pain for cleaning too. having used the CPU in the video to test a bunch of boards recently, reapplying the thermal paste each time, it gets stuck in those gaps so easily too.
they didn't do it to look cool. There's an actual reason for it. They put the SMs on the top so that they can maintain AM4 cooler compatibility. And since those have to go somewhere they had to put them on the edges of the substrait so they had to add those cut outs.
Hi, just doing this process myself, and i was wondering, i was looking at the pegs in the motherboard, and they all look bent inwards into the center, where the black line is, and i dont want to force the cpu in, is this part of the mother board or should i return it?
What an absolute GARBAGE design - this is where we are at in TWENTY TWENTY THREE ??????? That's fkn SPACE AGE date mate - this is pathetic. Same old non existent innovation in the PC hardware industry as OVER 10 years ago. Thank you for the video, I am now terrified to build my PC ;P (Jest)
Couldn't agree more. I've built pcs myself for years and this design is so flawed that I am stuck with a board that has bent pins as I was not aware of how fragile they are. I even built an Intel system recently and never had this issue. AMD should never have adopted this socket layout.
I was excited for this generation until I saw the design lol For people with a disability like mine, this could lead to very expensive accidents. I'll be riding out AM4 for as long as possible because I can't afford to pay someone else to build it for me. I can barely afford parts as it is. But I need custom builds for my work, so I have to budget and go for it.
oof idk why i feel so unconfortable when you touch the golden pads on the processor with your fingers, i mean sure you might get lucky and nothing happens but still.
I wish i watched this video before installing my new 7800X3D..first thing i did i removed that black lid and bumped my cpu right where it should be,luckilly all went ok...now when i watch this video i got cold sweat ...i could have killed that thing..😴
@@Andrew_M_Ward This video has done ten times more views than I currently have subs and is one of my most popular. View retention is best up to 2 minutes, yes, but every guide I've seen says at least 5 minutes is best for views
@@CrazyTechLab yes, I'm a little terrified being on FCLGA after several gens of PGA. Although I had issues with PGA too so you can never be too careful!
@@walrusdestruction6845 ua-cam.com/users/shortslAy3umbr81s?feature=share I eat my words. Does it help with temperatures? I don't know. Does it at least run? Yep.
Another question that occurred to me - might it be possible to do and TO DO IT WITHOUT CAUSING ANY DAMAGE - to use say very mild magnetism - to, I will give to possible uses here - EXTRACT A CPU FROM ITS SOCKET IF ONE WANTED TO and, in the second case, to hold a CPU in position while one was attempting position it to Cicely in place when installing it in the first place? One might imagine a MAGNET - POTENTIALLY A ROUND ONE PROBABLY - inside of a two - that could be slowly moved closer and closer to the top of the CPU - until it exerted just enough force/attraction to cause the CPU to say pop off of its/out of its socket and snap into position at the bottom of the two? Another approach might be to consider using something like - say - a suction cup - on the end of a dowel - and/BUT - with a tiny hole drilled down the center of the doll - which would not have to be all that long - and right through the center of the suction cup. The idea here would be to be able to - by ceiling off the whole in the top temporarily with perhaps something as simple as a piece of scotch tape, pickup the CPU to be mounted in the first place and held firmly while one use the dowel/suction cup move it slide it was honestly over the mounting socket/pins and then gently lower it into place. Once in place, all one would have to do - would be to pull the tape off the end of the dowel and let air leak in and the CPU would remain in the socket? ANOTHER IDEA - YOU CAN BUY THESE THINGS CALLED Sticky Pads ON AMAZON. Basically, and I have several of these around the house and they can be very useful - they are just Inherently Sticky - I sure exactly why perhaps the surface contains zillions of tiny suction cups or something - BUT, I could easily imagine cutting up a Sticky Pad and sticking one end of it to a small round piece of dowel - or even say the center cardboard piece of a roll of toilet paper - and lowering that down on top of a CPU to be mounted into position - and using that to carry/suspend and move the CPU into its proper location before attempting to detach the toilet paper/center cardboard role. The piece of sticky pad left behind - being very flat, could be left in place until the CPU was clamped down/lock down in place and then the sticky pad that was still stuck to the CPU could be simply and very easily - removed - by starting at one corner of it and just very gently peeling it off? AGAIN, WHAT YOU THINK?
I feel like this could have been a two minute video, and that's being generous with all the explanation.
Watching it 2x time
LOL, that is true. But considering the number of motherboards with bent pins on EBAY right now...maybe hearing that two minute explanation a few times would be good for some people.
Where's your video?
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@@The_Hanged_Man_Arcana where is yours?
Just a note, it's not a good idea to touch the gold plates on the back of the cpu, as your finger oil will corrupt connection integrity. It's better to just hold it by the sides, and not touch any of the electronics.
I wanted to write the same thing mate.
Disagreed with you.
Gold is a noble metal, that is generally resistant to corrosion.
Guess, it's one of reasons why they use it CPU manufacturing.
It's gold plated. Trust me I work in manufacturing, if just a touch of your fingers caused corrosion then every manufactured part in the world would be made in a clean room.
I think you need more education in chemistry and physics and Au
@@dazlad926 Wait so this is just one of those gamer pc building tips that don't actually hold? I've believed this for a long ass time. Crazy how something wrong can just spread like malice on the internet.
Also DO NOT EVER Touch the gold pads on bottom of the CPU! EVER.
Any tiny grease or contamination on your fingers will damage the gold and even cause conductive issues / heat issues
You're absolutely right, it's stupid to touch the gold pads not only on the processor but also on the RAM or video card as well.
Wrong. Gold is inert and doesn’t react with anything. You won’t damage it. So long as your fingers are clean like mine it’s perfectly safe.
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Although it was an informative video, I would recommend to anyone reading the comments to NEVER touch the underside of the processor! The oils from your fingers can get on the pads not to mention anything else that might be your hands. And NEVER place the processor pad side down on a table. It should go from the protective case it came in, to the socket. Don't fiddle fuck around with it. You risk contaminating the socket with dust and other crap you might have on the surface you placed it on. unbox it --> insert in socket. Period. Cheers!
Finger oil does not cause any issues. Im not saying to run your fingers all over it but its fine.
The issue is not the oil. Rather, it's static. ESD. I dunno why people here keep saying your fingers could be oily. It's not that.
Wait.. you mean I can’t run around my neighborhood with it like it’s the Olympic torch?!? 😆
my cheeks clenched when you tried to pick it back up
The thermal paste over spilling a bit (being squeezed out - after you screw down your cooler) usually isn't a problem - - - except, if you use liquid metal. All you know is your pc is up and running and you're happy - on with life. Meanwhile, over time, that liquid metal is secretly acting like an acid and eroding those metal parts outside of the cooler contact area - that it spilled over. Problems may arise later.
Thanks for the warning about the paste slapping the CPU onto the pins when lifting it out. I will hold the CPU down with my finger while lifting the trnsion bracket. ❤️
most importantly, try to touch the underside of the CPU with your fingers as often as you can.
This video is hilarious. After watching this video 70% of the people will be scared as hell to install a CPU by themselves. 😂😂😂
I know I am! I spent north of $1000 for the cpu and motherboard and I have really shaky hands.
Better than breaking a board like I did...
Literally building my first pc, and my buddy is gone on vacation atm, but i have a massive builder boner going. Im scared but REALLY want to build RIGHT NOW!
Idiots like those above don’t appreciate how common this is. It’s the leading cause of tens of thousands of motherboard returns. Have stead hands and nailed it? Good for you. Thousands of others don’t know how easy it is to bend the pins. If I prevent one person from doing it this video was worthwhile and I make zero apologies to anyone that found it funny. I find it funny they had the time to come here and comment to be honest. 🤪
@CrazyTechLab honestly, glad I did watch it. Gave me the patience I needed to put it together right. I didn't think it would be difficult, but I wanted to take as many precautions with an expensive piece of equipment I'm unfamiliar with. Now my board is all put together, just waiting for my PSU and some board screws and I'll have my first successful build. So thank you, you have at least one person right here who you helped to avoid possible issues. Much appreciated👍.
Awesome video mate thanks, especially for the tips about thermal paste and backplate compatibility. Even if this short vid stops one person mangling their pins it's worth it! Been there and dont wish to repeat!
Thank you for the demonstration. Going to start my first AM5 build in the next few months so I’m learning as much as I can beforehand. I’ve only built with AM4 in the past.
that's why I bought the Thermalright AM5 CPU Holder, Corrective Anti-Bending Fixing Frame, AM5 Full-fit Fixed Non-Marking Mounter, AM5 Anti-Bending to avoid damage to my pins when pullout the cpu and to maintain much better clean from the thermal paste
Just put a finger on the CPU holding it down while opening the latch and lifting the hold down bracket to keep thermal paste from lifting the CPU potentially dropping it onto the pins
You just got thermal paste all over you’re finger. 😂
@@CrazyTechLab you wipe the thermal paste off just like you stated in the video
@@FrgottenFrshness Ah sorry! I thought you meant leave the paste on there and just hold the CPU. If you clean it first then hopefully you wouldn’t need to use a finger unless the PC is upright and the CPU could fall out.
@@CrazyTechLab no worries
@@CrazyTechLab Is thermal paste toxic? I got some on my hands but just rinsed it off w water.
I gotta be honest, I like the new socket and locking system. I remember when I installed my first am4 cpu and had to reseat it and remove the heat sink, the heat sink ripped out the locked cpu and a bunch of pins got bent. Never had the ripping out with the cpu happen with lga sockets.
I was lucky the cpu was just a placeholder for a later upgrade, so I just upgraded earlier :D
True! Just gotta be careful with the socket pins!
had this happen once to me but miraculously the pins did not bend. from then on i gently rotated the cooler left and right while GENTLY pulling up until it budged nice and easy. btw, when that happens its generally speaking a sign that you used too much paste
How tf could that happen? You'd need a serious amount of force
@@AGRACUTA I think the rotating was actually what damaged the pins. I think the best way is to run a quick stress test to heat up the paste (at least if you can actually boot the OS), then it's much easier. I actually took out that broken cpu a couple of weeks ago, and spent an hour straightening the pins with a razorblade. Fortunately
the cpu still works. But it could've ended very differently.
@@LaughingMan44 no you actually don't. The locking mechanism is pretty weak. But I also had the dumb stock heat sink with the two clips and the lever (instead of screws), so it's exceptionally hard to loosen the heat sink without lifting the cpu out if the paste sticks to it.
If you bent those pins it will not kill the motherboard. I messed up before used tweezer and plastic card bent back 8 to 10 pins in place and its working fine.
Depends how badly you bend them. I’ve been successful in most attempts but not all. Also with socket AM5 the tolerance for the pins being in the right place after you bent them is extremely fine. There are so many pins that each one has to be in precisely the right place. It’s far easier to fix bent pins on an old Intel motherboard that is on socket AM5 or even LGA 1700
@@CrazyTechLab there is some leeway, just very slight.
Nice, I've always been an AMD guy and this is very helpful. I'm upgrading from an AM3 system to AM5 😁
Very glad to have helped!
My socket was really hard to close. Felt like it was going to crack the cpu. Havent that problem with any other videos
Same
Yep, think it is by design. I was concerned and removed it, no pins bent. Put it back. Seems good.
I don't wish to criticise but when you put the CPU into the socket GENTLY a little wiggle is needed to make sure that the CPU is seated properly just like with Intel LGA CPU's.
never wigled anything in my life, its clearly visible if its seated or not
thanks for this! as many times as I've built over the years, I'm still just a hobbyist... it's been a while, and never hurts to learn the latest tricks when you're putting a $600 chip on a $400 mobo! ❤
You're very welcome!
Is that normal on the ryzen 7000 cpus? It looks like it has a thin blister/bubble like thing at the lower side. Great video btw.😊
Over the years, I've never had an issue with LGA socket. So straight forward and never damage a pin on the board. But on a AM3 CPU, an AMD phenom 955 and I was removing the heatsink, the thermal paste stuck solid and I pulled the CPU out the locked socket and bent 3 pins, I manage to get the pins straighten enough to fit back into the socket and locked it back into position and I was extremely lucky it booted and that CPU went on for another 2 years before I upgraded.
Literally just did this when changing my cooler a week ago, bent a bunch of pins and couldn’t fix 😭so today I just upgraded everything 😂hello new PC ahahah
@@cameronevans242 it can happen to anyone, that PC build included a pre built motherboard bundle and the cpu heatsink was included and was already installed, they completely covered the CPU with so much thermal paste and when it dried out it was stuck solid, in hindsight I should have booted the pc for while and then left it off and then changed the heatsink letting the thermal paste liquify so I could remove the heatsink a little easier.
Since then I build my PC's completely myself, always applied the right amount of thermal paste.
Enjoy your new PC 🙂
@@wink1eafc774 is it better to install an air cooled tower before putting the motherboard to the case or after? because if you put the cpu cooling heatsink then putting it on the case, i think it will be hard to install an io right?
@@aqwandrew6330 install the air cooler first before installing the motherboard into the case.
@@wink1eafc774 it would not be hard to plug in the usb header or power cable to it later on? also the psu should come after all the cpu area is done?(including cooler on top of it like you said)
Wish I saw this before I killed my board. My first install went fine, but the second time I decided to slightly smudge the CPU into place and that put the board out of commission. (Still thinking on the easiest way to get the CPU out if that happens.. Tilt the board?) They really do seem to be annoying to remove. Despite the snobby know-it-alls in the comments, I appreciate the explanation and video.
I've bricked two AM5 boards already because of this crappy socket and these absurdly fragile pins. Yes, it may well be down to user error in my case of course but on the other hand I really think AMD should never have adopted this socket technology as its costing people money when these pins break off or are so easily bent. I have one working AM5 board just now, but I dare not remove the cpu for upgrading any time soon as I might break the board lol. I just hope future revisions of this socket will improve and the pins are made less fragile.
@@soulzgamer7589mate, exactly same here, never had any issues with my old intell 1155, im fucking livid, will the CPU be ok ? I was so carefull, when it's in can I wiggle it to make sure it's in place? Anyway, I tried booting but got nothing, ram light orange, CPU red, took it apart noticed bent pins, shat my pants. So angry.
@@soulzgamer7589 you've only got to look at these prices of shit
honestly, it seems like if you are just putting in the cpu the way you should be doing it anyway, it's pretty hard to break any pins on the motherboard
I'll take that as a complement :) It is! But the issue is, if you're coming from AMD, this is new and bent pins are one of the leading causes of dead motherboards - the RMA rate is HUGE and it's much easier than you think to bend the pins. I've received review samples rotated from professional journalists with bent pins and numerous friends who've sent me photos of bent pins when their PC fails to turn on asking 'is this bad?' It seems simple to those of us who have had socket pins for years, but even if I prevent one person from mashing them, this video was worth it. Also, with LGA1700 and now also Socket AM5, there are SO many pins that bending them back once bent is nearly impossible as the pin and pads are so small and margin for error so fine.
waiting for killer combo 7700x and b650 not E
its should be really good value/perfomance ratio
Definitely. They're just gunning for early adopters with fat wallets at the moment. Cheaper boards will come
Appreciate your hard work. I have ordered a AMD Ryzen 7 7700 and want to add it to Asus TUF Gaming B650 Motherboard. I wanted to know if i need to use thermal paste after adding CPU? I guess the CPU Comes with a CPU Cooler from AMD (Fan CPU Cooler) but not sure.
The AMD coolers usually have thermal paste pre applied. But you ALWAYS need thermal paste. If it's pre-applied, great. If not the cooler usually comes with a tube of it.
Thanks for taking time in explaining this. At the very least, builders should take their time at this step especially. I am wondering if bent socket pins is grounds for the manufacturer to void the warranty? I do know there is a note with my motherboard (MSI) that says boards returned without a socket cap will not be accepted.
I just received one with bent pins from Newegg, the socket cap was off and floating around in the bag.
So I guess they accept them, then ship them out without checking.
@@Justin-og9gu Here in June 2024 I received a Gigabyte board with bent pins from Amazon. And the cap was in place. I can't figure it.
5:09 if you want to know how to install the cpu 😂
Although your video is roughly 8 months old, I just stumbled across it and watched it because I have been kicking around the idea of building an AMD Ryzen 7900 AM5 system and I’ve always been very concerned about accidentally ‘bending pins’ - in the past - on the AMD and now that worry has been transferred to worry about bending pins in a motherboard’s socket. (“You never get something for nothing…!)
Anyway, as a result I watched your video and as I did, a few ideas which may or may not have merit ‘popped into my mind’. (Before I go any further, I am especially concerned more than many people because I’m 77 years old and “mine hands, they ain’t as steady as they used to be” and, ‘ditto’, when it comes to my ‘grip’ on things and I am probably considerably more likely to drop in situations like this then most people and so, as I watched your video, I wondered if I could come up with some POSSIBLE GOOD IDEAS to mitigate the risk.
Now, I have never built a PC for myself wherein the pins were in the motherboard but, after roughly watching your video, here are a couple of ideas I had, that PERHAPS you might wish to consider and assess - based on your experience in this area which I do not have - whether or not they might have merit. Here goes:
First of all, one concerned is - as you pointed out - that one might conceivably drop the processor accidentally onto the pins in the socket, perhaps at an ANGLE, resulting in damage the pins, something could obviously happen. So what you think of THIS IDEA:
Might it be possible and useful in a safety sense to - say - cutting a strip of suitably wide and suitably long PAPER from say an 8.5” x 11” printer paper AND, laying it down and possibly even using without being too excessive and going crazy with it - perhaps some cellophane tape to hold it in place while you proceed to POSITION the processor over the socket and its pins while you do this AND, once the processor is ‘100% in the right location’, while holding the processor in position to prevent it from moving sideways or up and down, pulling/siding the paper out from underneath the CPU - GENTLY, so that the processor simply has to/can - perhaps - space wise - if it happened to be constrained by the orientation pins and indentations, from moving laterally?
A slight variation on this: What if two pieces of paper were used - they might even and probably shouldn’t could OVERLAP a bit in the middle of the socket protect all the pins. The idea here would be that one might then say - pull only one strip of the paper out - at which ever end seems more appropriate - in the sense that it would be the first and to ‘receive pressure’ as one turned the lever to lock the processor in place. Perhaps simply flipping the lever over and letting whatever light pressure it might exert on the processor would be sufficient enough to permit the second piece of paper to be slid out from underneath the CPU such that the entire processor drops into place?
Another idea might be to - if one could conceive of some gentle way - of creating a little platform made of wood perhaps - and be careful not to drop it - to which say of thread could be attached which in turn could be appropriately sufficiently well attached - stuck to the top four corners of the CPU - which could then be spent the processor - dangling from these threads - over the socket and maneuvered precisely into place - for attempting to lock it down.
Then, when the processor was in precisely the right location, one could probably - I would imagine - after watching the entire process - managed to find a way to disconnect or cut the threads in question either close to the platform from which they were hanging OR - as close as possible to the CPU ASSUMING that you don’t want to try to COMPLETELY remove them/pull them off - until the clamping lever was fully seated and locked in place?
I think you’ll probably get the idea from the description I’ve given. Another way to think about it: Imagine how space sex manages to PRECISELY - HAVE TO PRECISELY POSITION the upper stages of Falcon 9 AND Starship rockets - to straightly tiny fractions of an inch - before lowering them into place and perhaps installing some sort of explosive bowls or something - to fasten them together?
They do it by dangling the upper stages and slowly but surely maneuvering them around and positioning them before finally lowering them in place.
I would be very interested to hear your thoughts on the matter, YOU having had hands on experience in doing this. This may be overkill for some people but, I can assure you - for older people whose hands and grips may not be that steady, if it would work, I think it would be worth trying to do it using some sort of say - dangle the CPU from a sort of ‘fixture’ using say at least three, possibly four pieces of thread and then simply lowering the CPU precisely into position.
Whad ya think?
Useful tips. Got one of these coming in a week now that less expensive b650 mobos are out.
How are prices looking? Are they much cheaper than X670?
@@CrazyTechLab paid 239 USD for a gigabyte aurorus board. I could have gone 200 but I'm the kind if person that will actually need 8+ usb ports. Cheapest board is a micro ATX from asrock at 169.
@@CrazyTechLab Paid 300 for a ASUS TUF board yesterday. Cheapest ones in Sweden are 250 atm :/
@@vaarius6737 Kind of a pain even the low end ones are relatively expensive. I like having lots of features and accessories, but that's going to cost upwards of $400/£400! :/
I'm only just switching over from AM4 to AM5 and I'm aware of almost every shortfalls on the CPU old pin array setup. Many times I had to use my credit card to straighten out those bent pins. Nevertheless, I don't want to go into this blindly, your video has put me in good stead and thank you for over extending the things that could possibly go wrong with AM5.
Glad to hear it. I get a lot of people complaining about the length of the video but I really, really, really wanted to stress how easy it is to damage the pins. Even following basic guides is still seeing bent pins as the leading cause of motherboard RMAs so it's clear they're not enough. If I ram it into your brain then hopefully you won't ever be in that situation!
Not long, you just went over and above and kudos to you! Even experience PC builders make silly mistakes. Bending pins and thermal paste stuck to your cooling fan are the biggest pitfalls.
So glad AM5 has a retention bracket!
Thermal paste on AM4 has its own art, run the PC for twenty minutes, unscrew the holding screws diagonally from the AM4 PC Cooler, then very gently swerve the cooler left and right a few times, then pull gently....oooops, no it usually works :)@@CrazyTechLab
thank you, wasn't sure what I was supposed to do with the cover now it's very clear
Fitting the CPU is pretty much foolproof due to the two grooves top and bottom on the CPU which are left of the centre of the CPU and line up with the grooves in the motherboards CPU socket.
Thank you.
Thanks For the Advice, I'm just building my Ryzen 7700 non X Cpu with a Gigabyte B650e ITX board , the CPU install to me is Scary, Thanks
Okay so I know I am a year late to the party but I am about to build my first AM5 build. After watching this video and seeing how one must be careful about thermal paste in light of the AM5's design how much paste should one apply?
Great video! Thanks so much! Question… do you have a preference on thermal paste?
Anything that spreads easily so Arctic MX-4, Noctua NH-1, and Corsair's pastes are all good
7:20 Or you can just hold the CPU down when lifting the lid/ latch
thx a ton! Upgrading to 7900x from threadripper 2950x
I did the exact same thing before. To push down this metalstick i need to use extrem strength. Is this normal? Its my second motherboard and issue happened 2 times... What do i do wrong? And if i want to start my pc it shows the yellow q-led and nothing wants to start.
I've used LGA CPU's for many years, never damaged a mobo yet.
I hate this new socket on AMD boards as I've already damaged pins on two AM5 boards and its effectively knackered them. It's not even clear what causes them to bend, accidentally dropping the cpu in incorrectly or even friction underside when installing the cooler. One thing is for sure is it's a very costly mistake to make.
Just did it myself and I'm always so carefull. Im so furious with rage, 160 quid down drain.
Brought new board, with great anger, now I'm dreading it. Happens again I give up. It should not be this fuckin easy to bend them ffs. You only have to look at them wrong.
Urgh. Livid.
my am5 cpu socket cover came already removed so i just put the chip in anyway but im scared now😬😬😬
@@louisr08 probably safer to just put the CPU in but be super careful nothing falls into the socket till you do
It's so weird to see AMD's mainstream platform having an LGA socket too.
So true!
Perhaps one day, the sockets will become duo-universal. With a long-term change like that, the Intel vs. AMD feud would likely shift away from the generation of the CPU and more towards chipset features, processing power, integrated graphics, and other things like that.
Yeah they changed it Cuz they thought they could beat Intel Ata what they do, lol
Ah... Silly AMD
you'll NEVER beat intel...
A. L
M. ost
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as always
@@PhillipLemmon lol what. They’re pretty evenly matched this gen.
@@roccociccone597 nah dude. Just like their gpu's they are late to the game
Also what they've done is blow thier load I basically an entire fiscal year Cuz they brought out the the 7k high end sereis of cpu and gpu's the shortly after that they brought out the low end versions of them then after that they brought out the 3d versions of them......same thing with the gpu's. They have nothing left to show for the next 2-3 years MAYBE expect for AI/servers tuff.....niw I'm not saying that I don't like AMD I just wish they would Stop trying to imitate Intel and Nvidia
Now they are stuck on the Intel type socket and
Stuck with the 7k series gpu's.
If they had stuck with AM4 and just increased the cache like intel did with their architecture maybe they wouldn't need to imitate Intel's socket....
Sigh...
why they dont use sockets like AM2-4 anymore? it was much more foolproof
Great tips, thanks!
You’re very welcome!
My first build was with an am4 cpu and I bent one pin, ONE. And thought the whole pc was dead. Think this way is better
2:48 what was that about needing a different adapter backplate for x670e mobo? Im having troubles with mine. Its at 100°c + in the bios ☹️
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there is a rubber rim thing for the cpu to stop stuff going near the silicon
Very stupid what AMD did to AM5 Socket. Previous socket was way better and easier to install CPU. Terrible design and way harder to install cpu.
It's really not hard to prevent damaging your motherboard/socket pins. I've been building PC's since 1995. Have never damaged a single socket. Just place it in and close the lid. They only fit in one way.
i'm going to build my new AMD 7800X3D pc this weekend. I'm already nervous for putting the cpu on the motherboard.
Don't be :) The whole point of this video was to make people stop and think before they do this, especially for the first time. There's a reason why bent pins are one of the most common return reasons and also a reason people brick their PC. It's very easy to do it. Do it slowly and carefully and you'll be fine.
Might be best to put the cap back on after you've released the latch but before you take the CPU out
Took me a moment to understand what you meant, but yeah, I agree.
the processor is very accurate because many people's pc does not work after building. you have to put the processor correctly again.
I have the Corsair h150i elite 360mm cooler and I was wondering if you think I’ll need an adapter or not? I just got the 7950x off launch and If you have any info on if it should fit I would appreciate it
If your cooler needs a backplate it will not be compatible. If it uses the default backplate from amd you'll probably be good.
Check with the manufacturer. NZXT has released a statement saying that even though their coolers use the stock backplate, they still need an adaptor to work 100% although they should still be okay. That’s not particularly clear from them but most if not all coolers that use the stock backplate should work.
should be fine it uses standard backplate, they even say its am5 ready
When I installed my corsair aio I had to unscrew the brackets that come from the factory and then screw in the double end threaded screws and then seat the pump block on to the four screws and then use thumb screws to secure it tightening the thumb screws down thumb tight in an X pattern.
This reminds me of haswell days. That’s the last intel I built. I’ve been on ryzen since. Good to see LGA is still the same. Thank you. Me too brother! Waiting on the $3.99 ek 6/32 screw set. Cost me $14 for 4 screws. I wish Microcenter had them. I looked yesterday when I was picking up my order but nope! I grabbed a Corsair h150i rgb elite to use while I wait for the screws and a few fittings. I could have used my 240mm h100i pro, but I don’t like loud fans and it’s time for a new AIO. I switch coolers a fair amount. Get fed up with custom loop go back to aio. Rinse and repeat
Brother, I am still using an i7 4790k paired now with an RTX 3060 since Dec 2014.
forget the paste buy a thermal pad those are worth the extra. My CPU does not rise above 37C-38C, heavy gamming load mind you. It is 2.00mm thick. Gelid Solutions GP-Extreme 2.0mm Thermal Pad
Nope. Thermal grizzly kryonaut runs cooler.
Wish I could have seen this video first before installing CPU and not some random short one they didn't tell me that socket pins are super fragile and not like older AMD CPUs, I'm not an Intel user, so I didn't know, this is how I broke it
I feel your pain. At least it won’t happen again!
This cpu looks so cursed, do you apply a thermal paste at the sticking edges?
Ha ha! Nope I was using a waterblock with a large contact plate and this motherboard has had several CPUs tested in it over the last 48 hours. A bit of stray thermal paste is perfectly normal. :)
@@CrazyTechLab did you try to mount a nzxt watercooling? it is compatible but not recommended, and they didn't include a tutorial to install it on am5
@@HyPeRXKo If it fits the standard AMD backplate for Socket AM4 then yes it should fit. I'm using an EK AIO right now and it fits fine. The new backplate has the same threads. The only situation things might not work is if the cooler does not use the standard backplate and has its own - mostly the case with some custom watercooling CPU waterblocks. Here, manufacturers will need to supply an adaptor kit. Most AIO liquid coolers such as NZXT and Corsair either use the standard backplate or the socket clips. The backplate on AM5 is exactly the same, but it's screwed to the socket this time, not just to the clips.
@@HyPeRXKo If you like I could do a video on this too. Seems to be a popular question
@@CrazyTechLab NZXT say we need an adapter for optimal performance, but it is still compatible apparently, no idea how since it is custom backplate (I think), a video Is a good idea since there is no answer on the entire internet on how to install it on the am5 platform :)
Hi.What type of cooler is better for 7700x? .Air cooler or Liquid.I like Dark Rock Pro 4 and Pure Loop 2 and FX.I am afraid for liqiud cooler it will cause damage later
7700x you’ll be fine with an air cooler and the Dark Rock Pro 4 is excellent
@@CrazyTechLab i read comments that with air cooler 7700x reaching to 90c
Are you instructing the VERGE guy?
[Slow clap]
Verge*
I tried bending the (dead) processor pins once, but it was very difficult, especially with (only) my fingers.
@@antonius5195 It was sometimes possible in the past as the pins were bigger and less fragile. These days there are so many, they’re so small and tolerances so fine that it’s nearly impossible. I’d done it to a couple of modern boards and failed on every occasion to repair when in the past I’d usually be able to fix them. Definitely don’t want to damage pins on a modern board.
@@CrazyTechLab you just need a toothpick, another one that's broken in half for more precise movements, and an iphone zoom feature to check it out at the end. (also a rubber toothpick helps as I mentioned before)
@@dolpoof2335 Sadly not with current motherboards. I had a 100% success rate before socket AM5 and LGA1700. I’ve had a zero% success rate with them. The pins are too small and tolerances too fine. I’ve used a sewing pin - a tooth pick is far too big. You won’t even get between the pins with that. Even then the pins are 100 times more fragile and are far far more difficult to align back when bent. I’ve even used an electric microscope. It’s the main reason I did this video.
@@CrazyTechLab That's why you break the toothpick in half. Also the tolerances aren't as tight as you think. Still it can take hours and you might need to break a new toothpick.
Amd used PGA which was more robust and harder to damage and they support the same motherboard for multiple generations so when you need to upgrade you didn't have to buy all new hardware because of compatibility issues, which is why I switched to amd. Now I have no reason to stay, because amd no longer supports my motherboard When it comes time for upgrade I'm going back to Intel because I'm going to need all new hardware again. I didn't even get to benefit from using the motherboard for more than one cpu.😢
"What not to do" > proceeds to touch the back of the CPU
lol funny video man
Damn I dropped mine in pretty fast at one point i might have to remove it and check for any bent pins
5:25 never do that NOOB
I've had so many more issues with PGA sockets than with LGA sockets
I just want to know if i have a new Mobo and new Ryzen 9 7000x, seems like it can just be put in the socket, my main concern is Thermal paste. I read its required if its being re-installed, but is thermal paste required for the first installs? ROG STRIX X670 mbo. Cause the video shows no thermal paste being applied until its mentioned at the end.
Query I have a ryzen 5900x with a liquid aorus waterface 360 version one of the aorus water cooling since the x360 version of aorus has now come out - my liquid will serve me to be able to mount my aorus master x670e and ryzen 7800x3d motherboard if the anchorage of my liquid am4 It will help me to install and what temperatures should I have when playing greetings from Chile thanks
No one can tell you unfortunately. It depends on ambient air temperature, case temperature, thermal paste application and so many other things. Don’t expect low temperatures with the 7800X3D though. It’s common for well over 80’C under load.
Will a corsair h100i aio work?
I wish the sides were more straight, like most cpu's are. I don't care for the little cut-outs on the sides. I hope AMD will fix this.
Tis a pain for cleaning too. having used the CPU in the video to test a bunch of boards recently, reapplying the thermal paste each time, it gets stuck in those gaps so easily too.
they didn't do it to look cool. There's an actual reason for it. They put the SMs on the top so that they can maintain AM4 cooler compatibility. And since those have to go somewhere they had to put them on the edges of the substrait so they had to add those cut outs.
🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄I bend 1 pin of the motherboard.
Will it still work
What does it mean having bend 1 pin of the motherboard
Hi, just doing this process myself, and i was wondering, i was looking at the pegs in the motherboard, and they all look bent inwards into the center, where the black line is, and i dont want to force the cpu in, is this part of the mother board or should i return it?
What an absolute GARBAGE design - this is where we are at in TWENTY TWENTY THREE ??????? That's fkn SPACE AGE date mate - this is pathetic. Same old non existent innovation in the PC hardware industry as OVER 10 years ago. Thank you for the video, I am now terrified to build my PC ;P (Jest)
Couldn't agree more. I've built pcs myself for years and this design is so flawed that I am stuck with a board that has bent pins as I was not aware of how fragile they are. I even built an Intel system recently and never had this issue. AMD should never have adopted this socket layout.
i just touched the gold plates and i dont know what to do
Don’t do anything. Good is inert. It doesn’t corrode and CPUs are designed to be handled. Just make sure they’re clean.
I prefer to install mine with the heat spreader on the pins
PLS HELP I TOUCHED THE GOLD PLATES WHEN I GOT IT OUT IS IT BADD
I was excited for this generation until I saw the design lol For people with a disability like mine, this could lead to very expensive accidents. I'll be riding out AM4 for as long as possible because I can't afford to pay someone else to build it for me. I can barely afford parts as it is. But I need custom builds for my work, so I have to budget and go for it.
Pro tip : don't use any napkins to clean thermal paste when the cpu isn't socketed.
dont use pumpkin
I've been using coffee filters and 99% Isopropyl alcohol.
@@TheUnknownDeath oops I accidentally used peroxide thinking it was alcohol
@@dontcryboutit so have you found any traces of blood on your CPU?
@@will-ever no
man going to miss the classic amd cpu installation method 😅
Maybe not so much the CPU coming out with the cooker though…
oof idk why i feel so unconfortable when you touch the golden pads on the processor with your fingers, i mean sure you might get lucky and nothing happens but still.
Can't believe AMD is evolving backwards
mine acidentally fell in acid will it still work?
Watching you force that chip back out is nightmare fuel 🤯
Yeah I literally got a crowbar to it to force out. 🤨
I wish i watched this video before installing my new 7800X3D..first thing i did i removed that black lid and bumped my cpu right where it should be,luckilly all went ok...now when i watch this video i got cold sweat ...i could have killed that thing..😴
Why not just use 2 hands if u need more grip on the cpu. I have small hands so that's how I would do it.
I remove protect cover and than install CPU ........its work
can I mount it on a mini itx asrock motherboard?
This guy forgot something - the first verification is that all mother board pins are aligned. One bent pin and bye bye CPU.
Its like the planned obsolescence design
next in series: how to put the socks on
Put a sock in it
Next up…how to put gloves on 😂
@@CrazyTechLab Next up how to install the motherboard on the cpu.
2-minute video made into 9.5-minute video...
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@@CrazyTechLab / BTW 2 minute video with compelling info hit more than 9-minute videos (if you're looking for views)
@@Andrew_M_Ward This video has done ten times more views than I currently have subs and is one of my most popular. View retention is best up to 2 minutes, yes, but every guide I've seen says at least 5 minutes is best for views
Every time you pointed at the pins I got scared a little.
It’s a healthy fear ☺️👍
@@CrazyTechLab yes, I'm a little terrified being on FCLGA after several gens of PGA. Although I had issues with PGA too so you can never be too careful!
How about 10 cent latex gloves?
aio work it right???
if i installed it without the black plastic piece is that bad?
is it working i do the sane
No but try to leave that in place next time. It’s there to protect the socket from anything falling in to it. That’s all.
Does adding thermal paste to the bottom of the CPU help with temperatures?
No. Don't do that.
@@Barakitty it works fine for me.
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I eat my words. Does it help with temperatures? I don't know. Does it at least run? Yep.
Good idea. Use a whole tube and fill in all of the spaces between the pins.
😂
Another question that occurred to me - might it be possible to do and TO DO IT WITHOUT CAUSING ANY DAMAGE - to use say very mild magnetism - to, I will give to possible uses here - EXTRACT A CPU FROM ITS SOCKET IF ONE WANTED TO and, in the second case, to hold a CPU in position while one was attempting position it to Cicely in place when installing it in the first place?
One might imagine a MAGNET - POTENTIALLY A ROUND ONE PROBABLY - inside of a two - that could be slowly moved closer and closer to the top of the CPU - until it exerted just enough force/attraction to cause the CPU to say pop off of its/out of its socket and snap into position at the bottom of the two? Another approach might be to consider using something like - say - a suction cup - on the end of a dowel - and/BUT - with a tiny hole drilled down the center of the doll - which would not have to be all that long - and right through the center of the suction cup. The idea here would be to be able to - by ceiling off the whole in the top temporarily with perhaps something as simple as a piece of scotch tape, pickup the CPU to be mounted in the first place and held firmly while one use the dowel/suction cup move it slide it was honestly over the mounting socket/pins and then gently lower it into place. Once in place, all one would have to do - would be to pull the tape off the end of the dowel and let air leak in and the CPU would remain in the socket?
ANOTHER IDEA - YOU CAN BUY THESE THINGS CALLED Sticky Pads ON AMAZON. Basically, and I have several of these around the house and they can be very useful - they are just Inherently Sticky - I sure exactly why perhaps the surface contains zillions of tiny suction cups or something - BUT, I could easily imagine cutting up a Sticky Pad and sticking one end of it to a small round piece of dowel - or even say the center cardboard piece of a roll of toilet paper - and lowering that down on top of a CPU to be mounted into position - and using that to carry/suspend and move the CPU into its proper location before attempting to detach the toilet paper/center cardboard role. The piece of sticky pad left behind - being very flat, could be left in place until the CPU was clamped down/lock down in place and then the sticky pad that was still stuck to the CPU could be simply and very easily - removed - by starting at one corner of it and just very gently peeling it off?
AGAIN, WHAT YOU THINK?
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