‘CENK NO!’: TYT Host Snuggles Up To MAGA At Americafest | The Kyle Kulinski Show
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"The first time I ever really listened to Kyle Kulinski’s show was in the back of a cab last summer. The driver had his phone hooked up through the stereo and was pumping out an episode through the car speakers - loudly, as if looking to convert a captive audience.
“Do you like Kyle Kulinski?”
The driver, Ahmed, was a recent immigrant and apparently a die-hard fan of Secular Talk, the political talk show that Kulinski broadcasts on UA-cam. I told him, yes, in fact. I do like Kulinski, had come across his show several years ago, and, all things considered, he seemed pretty good.
“He understands what we’re up against,” Ahmed said. “Like Bernie.”
But I was surprised to hear Kulinski’s name mentioned in the same breath as Bernie Sanders, particularly with such adoration. Because what I did remember about Kulinski’s show struck me as mostly capital-P “progressive” takes on the news - the left wing of the Netroots crowd more than the democratic socialism Sanders has popularized.
It’s an impression that wasn’t entirely incorrect.
“I have no time for philosophical, airy bullshit,” Kulinski tells me from his home in Westchester, New York. “I don’t want to hear about Lenin. I don’t want to hear about Marx. I just want a super plainspoken, straightforward agenda with a straightforward way of selling it.”
With over 800,000 subscribers and nearly 670 million total views on UA-cam, selling a progressive agenda is clearly something Kulinski knows how to do - even Democracy Now, the long-standing flagship of progressive media, cannot match his reach on the platform. Chapo Trap House can certainly boast a wildly devoted fan base (and a not insignificant degree of media influence), but their audience is roughly half the size of Kulinski’s.
While Secular Talk might be more likely to be looped in with the progressive networks around Air America and Pacifica alums like Sam Seder than the more resolutely socialist world, Kulinski’s fiery rhetoric, razor-sharp class instincts, and knack for withering takedowns sets him apart from his peers. Judging by his rhetoric alone, he’s closer to a Eugene Debs than a Chris Hayes.
But unlike Hayes, Amy Goodman, or his friend Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks - who began airing Secular Talk on his web network seven years ago - the thirty-two-year-old Kulinski is virtually invisible in the mainstream media. Despite his enormous fan base, his show has never once been mentioned in the obligatory trend pieces on “the Millennial Left” pumped out by the prestige media. Nor has Kulinski’s name ever popped up at all in the New York Times, Vox, the New Yorker, New York Magazine, or the Washington Post, despite his leading role in cofounding Justice Democrats, the organization widely credited with sweeping Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the rest of “the Squad” to power.
Just last week, his Wikipedia page was deleted. The reason? “There is very simply no [reliable source] coverage of this person,” according to one moderator. In new media, he’s king - the Sean Hannity of the Berniecrat left. In old media, he’s nobody.
I suspect there are a few reasons for that. There is nothing “cool” about Kulinski’s show. (As a friend put it, “‘Welcome to Secular Talk’ sounds like something you’d hear on Egyptian radio.”) His no-nonsense social-democratic politics won’t get him much cred with the Full Communism crowd. He records his show not in Brooklyn or Los Angeles, but in a studio he built himself in his modest Westchester home. His hair is too groomed and his taste in clothes too preppy to qualify as “Dirtbag Left.” Nor has he ever attended an n+1 release party. “Not only have I not attended one,” he says, “I have no idea what that means.”
And yet he’s astonishingly plugged-in for a young man in the suburbs. Wondering how Sanders ended up on the Joe Rogan Experience? Kulinski, a frequent guest on Rogan’s wildly popular show, introduced them. “You make the most sense to me,” Rogan told Kulinski on a recent episode. “You’re a normal person.”
Much like Sanders himself, Kulinski’s show has a massive audience that just doesn’t compute with our media’s understanding of “what the kids want” or even “what the left-wing kids want.”
It’s probably for the best - the very woke and very WASP-ish decorum haunting much of the media world is nowhere to be found in Secular Talk. “Corporate Democrats over-focus on identity as a trick to divert you from the issues that unite us all - class issues,” he said on a recent episode.
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Kyle, if Cenk and Anna turn on you like they did before, or like Jimmy Dore turned on you before, you have solid standing now with an audience of your own. Don't worry about audience capture. Don't be afraid of backlash. We got you!
Lol
@@professionalviewer5672thanks for your contributions
Or how about asking the question why so many Leftists are abandoning the Left as it becomes more and more extreme?
WE GOT YOU !
@@mogznwazBy extreme left you mean right leaning centrists?
So, Cenk won’t talk to Sam Seder because Sam is a “grifter”, but he is happy to yuk it up with Charlie Kirk?
THIS
How can anyone call SAM SEDER a grifter & then turn around and talk to Charlie fcking Kirk?! What the hell is going on anymore 😭
My thoughts exactly!
Right, I might disagree with Sam Seder sometimes, but I know that guy believes what he says, and he's smart too. That's the kind of guy that I want to form alliances with, NOT Charlie Kirk.
Hunter Biden 2028!
This is so embarrassing. You’re not getting through to them, Cenk. You’re there to reaffirm that Trump is this populist revolutionary. And you did just that.
Exactly.
Cenk is grifting, but he just looks like big dummy.
100%
omg you guys are just being maximal Ieftists!!
I’m jk haha. yeah this is rough to see. there’s no such thing as a “popuIist right” - these people are just MAGA, and all of their values and ideoIogy will change on a whim if their god-emperor deems it so.
historically, “right populism” is just a gentle way of saying f4scism… and that’s exactly what we’re seeing now. Cenk is only giving that movement additional legitimacy, but he’s too stubborn to ever acknowledge that the people warning him about this might be correct.
omg you guys are just being maximal Ieftists!!
I’m jk haha. yeah this is rough to see. there’s no such thing as a “popuIist right” - these people are just M4G4, and all of their values and ideoIogy will change on a whim if their g0d-king deems it so.
it’s extra embarrassing that Cenk thinks that crowd is laughing WITH him.
It sucks watching TYT begin their "why I left the left" swing. Kudos to you, Humanist Report, Majority Report, etc., for having the integrity to call this shit out.
Agreed!
And this is why even back in... 2013? 2014? When my friend showed me them I didn't like them and never watched em again
They're too corporate, they're trying so hard to be cable news
I'm sure their idea is to get a good amount of viewers so they can get a good message out but when you have to sacrifice your message to gain viewers? Don't see how that works. Not a massive fan of Kyle either but he at least keeps it real with you and you KNOW he is always thinking about what would have the least number of negative consequences. Just rational thinking really
If only you had eyes and brains to realise that demonrats are just as evil as trump and his cronies but demonrats just don't have the balls to say it openly. 40000 people that lost lives in Gaza just so demonrats get donor money shows it.
The best thing TYT ever did was introduce me to Kyle Kulinski, Sam Seder, and Jordan Chariton.
Don't forget about the Van 🚐 Guard 💂 boys Billy and Silky haha!
"What do you guys think of Mitch McConnel?" "Booooooooooooooooo!"
"What do you guys think of other conservative politicians with the exact same policies?!?" "YYYYYAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
They sang along with Triumph, the insult comedy dog's insult song about them. There not a lot of critical thinking put into those answers.
For real. Is there anyone who didn't see through that immediately?
😂😂 fr.
This.
“Mitch” just didn’t agree with EVERYTHING Donald Trump said & wasn’t 100% loyal. It’s laughable how dumb Cenk is to not understand what’s happening here.
Lmao
You know it's serious when kyle makes a 1 hour video segment lol
i was thinking the exact same thing lol
It was his Christmas gift to us.
Facts he’s disappointed as hell
1 hr wow
I stopped watching tyt probably around 2017-2018. Use to watch them in like 2009 days. Remember Kyle use to look up to Cenk. Boy have the times changed.
Cenk: Kamala and the Democrats should not have joined with the Cheneys.
Also Cenk: Now let me cosy up to these MAGAts and see what happens.
i didn't even think of that, but thats a good analogy lol
Comparing MAGA to the family responsible for lying about weapons of mass destruction, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and millions of humans dying? Just go watch The View and stay off social media and UA-cam
@@JonnySlider Such a great point. According to that stupid logic, why would Cenk be against a Democratic coalition with the Cheneys if the goal is to defeat Trump? I mean he has no problem coalescing with literal fascists.
Right!!!
Ive been watching TYT for like 10 years. Dont let anybody tell you, especially Cenk, that he'salways had these same positions and nothing has changed. TYT is not the same as it used to be
TYT was literally my introduction to progressive politics in college. Cenk and Ana turned into cons
@@richardmactough3094 Same. They've been sketchy for a few years now, especially Cenk, but they're cons now.
100%
@@richardmactough3094 Same
Been watching them for longer and you are absolutely correct.
if you'd prefer to speak to Charlie Kirk instead of Sam Seder, you might not be a leftist!
If your cohost's nickname is Karen, you might not be a leftist!
Foxworthy approved
Cenk said, "OMG Sam Seder! What a fkn nightmare!" . 😂
Yeah he is intimidated by Sam Seder I think. He know he will get a real debate
@@presidentcamacho6972 Yep Cenk he just might be your worst nightmare what happened to you. You’re betraying all of us. 😢
I'm absolutely done with tyt
Just unfollowed them as my way to protest them
I'm not. I'm watchin more now.
@@CurtisJeffries-cd5vu Yes, they are losing intelligent viewers and gaining MAGAts.
‘OF COURSE!!!!’
Me too
When Ana said Trump wasn't involved with or trying to implement project 2025 I was done. They have lost the plot over there.
That was the exact moment when I unsubscribed from tyt too.
That lady is completely unwatchable at this point. Karen Kasparian will be hosting a show with Dave Rubin sometime soon just you wait.
The gas leak is real
You're late to the party. I left when she turned full transphobe around this time last year.
@NoThatRyan we need to help the mentally ill. Not give in to their delusions.
Unsubscribed from TYT awhile ago. This just reinforces that decision
I went to unsubscribe a few months ago and realized I'd never subscribed in the first place. I'm so proud of my past self.
I did too! I was finding myself getting angry and I don’t in that way on other channels. Bad vibes and opinions from them. Some good other creators- they should leave and spread their wings.
Proud to say that I have never been subscribed to TYT. 😁 And that won't change.
I unsubscribed over 3 years ago, even back then , the writing was on the wall.
Same
Been waiting for Kyle to call out TYT like this.
Glad he is showing integrity.
I really don't think there's ever been a time where Kyle hasn't shown integrity like this. He's certainly given people he's known for a long time the benefit of the doubt, and occasionally maybe for longer than he should have, but I just think that's human nature- when you know someone personally and believe you know where their heart genuinely is, it takes more to convince you otherwise than for people who only know them parasocially, But he's never defended anyone or pulled punches once it's clear they have betrayed the fundamental values Kyle has always held to.
He's called then out on other shows but I think this is the first segment on his own channel
I do sympathize with Kyle a bit when it comes to the likes of Joe and Cenk who he has had personal relationships with and considered friends. It makes it a LOT harder to then come out swinging against them, it just does. Did he wait too long to flip on Joe? Sure. Has he taken a little too long on this TYT nonsense? Sure. But the important thing is he does stick to his principles eventually, so I can forgive him for handing people he knows and likes a bit more grace period.
Cue cartmans integrity
Kyle is one of the good ones. I'm very pleased by his aggressive, principled stance and in my opinion that's exactly what's needed.
Cenk thinks he's playing 4D chess when in reality he's playing himself.
🎯🎯
kirk looks like hes taking a pic with his kill from a hunt.
Cenk with his stupid then we get a beer line trying to make that an actual thing/popular slogan is like ok Seinfeld when George tried to give himself the nickname T Bone. It ain’t working
@@Kmcgonigle0 lol that’s exactly what it’s like.
This is either a business strategy (he received investments from millionaires and has to pay them, which is ironic, since he criticizes politics for this same thing) or a political strategy (and if so, it’s incredibly stupid)
they booed Mitch McConnell because he's too moderate for them
Mitch McConnell is now one of the good ones.
They are that bad.
@@donalobrien9422I wouldn't say that at all. It's just that they hate McConnell because there have very small times he went against Trump to hold him accountable, but it wasn't enough in my book but at least he has his times. This is why they hate McConnell because he is go against Trump sometimes
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@@donalobrien9422 he’s not good
@@ericaespinosa4030 Exactly, it's not about policy, it's about loyalty.
Yeah Cenk has completely sold out. It breaks my heart as a long time TYT fan, but there's no denying he is bought and sold now.
Cenk has crossed the Dave Rubicon
LMFAO! Good one... Sad one...
Soon he'll be in recovery mode from taking in all those high level important ideas
I'm jealous I didn't think of that word play first.👍
This is the greatest pun I've seen this year
And to cross the Dave Rubicon you need to jump a hell of a shark.
"Is Trump a genuine populist?"
"OF COOOOOUUUURSE NOT!"
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Just like cenk is not genuine at all
he's a fascist collaborator now
I mean he is. Adolph, Stalin, Mao, etc, were all populists
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
TYT has lost 40 thousand subs in the last 10 days...
Good.
Love that for Ana
Now TYT really IS the young jerks show.
@@GetUpAndGetDown ditto
Including me a member since 2015/ 2016
People cheering at the idea that you don't have a right to housing is all I need to know about these folks.
Grateful that you spoke up, Kyle. As a long time tyt supporter and ex-member, I am clear eyed: Everyone on the left has to collectively push back against this TYT pivot and normalization of MAGA.
Lol Kyle did the same thing 😂
@@WilddogABwhen?
@@xigladiator510 recently on the humanist report. He was asked what is view on TYT. I guess this interview was the final straw and decided to push back agaisnt TYT on his main chanel
this is funny. everybody turning on u weirdos.
Normalization? Trump won the popular vote, every swing state, union workers, and nearly every Democrat demographic except black women. Maga controls the white house, senate, supreme court, and house starting next year. Maga is already normalized bruh
He started out as a Republican So I’m not surprised.
Yes they’re just going back to their roots.
This is so true. His true colors coming out 😮
Right?!
Full circle
Once a Repukeblican, always a Repukeblican I always say.
Anyone who can look at Donald's cabinet of billionaires and conclude that he is a populist is certifiably insane. I challenge Cenk to name *one* populist policy that Donald is pursuing. One.
Hating immigrants. It is, unfortunately, an extremely popular position in our country right now.
Cenk is trying to grow his business.
@@SupremeGrand-MasterAzrael Only because it was manufactured by right wing propaganda.
It's a cult of personality and Cenk thinks these cultists have principles.
@@kyerionp Really? To me it looks like he's killing it. He really think those right wing turds will start to watch his show? He's smoking crack.
Cenk: I'm a left wing populist
What is a populist?
Cenk: Someone who is anti-establishment
What is establishment?
Cenk: Democrats I don't like!
It's honestly pathetic to watch Cenk put so much effort into convincing these people to like him and that he has something in common with them. Just groveling at their feet like that. The vicarious embarrassment is real.
Seriously and the whole premise is really bizarre. Let’s find 10% in common with far right wingers and deny the 90% we have in common with Kamala libs who also oppose fascism? This is a cash grab by tyt
Maga's definition of "let's not hate and work together" they mean "Submit to us and we make no compromises"
Yep.
@@cassandratq9301 i have been debating conservative on facebook for a while and they ABSOUTLY hate how i throw at them about how they don't give a shit about free speech and they are just hypocrite
Democrats projecting what they hate about themselves onto others is the theme of the last 8 years. Good to see you're keeping the tradition alive.
Kyle came with the facts.
I actually hope Cenk watches this.
They go way back, and ppl in the TYT circuit(including fans) will definitely notify him of it. He and Kyle respect one another, he will definitely see this.
I'm wondering what his response will look like, more than anything else.🤔
he'll just call kyle a grifter... he's a fascist collaborator now
@@Tar-Von "Of Course!!!"
Cenk: “Kyle is Max-Left”
Kyle technically isn't attacking Cenk here. He's just saying it's a very bad idea.
Doesn’t Charlie Kirk take the same dirty money? Cent is not calling out THAT corruption
First Anna lost it beyond hard and now Cenk. Time to unsub from TYT. Actually disgusting
I'm with you
Yeah, the Dems either won or historically outperformed three out of the last four election cycles but Cenk and Ana go on these shows and pretend that the Dems have been consistently losing for decades. Then Cenk goes around pretending that we didn't have 4 years of Trump so we know exactly what he's going to do. They've become performative monkeys.
I did, yesterday after 14 years of being a fan.
No more.
Ok live in your far left bubble
Left some months ago mostly because of genocide Ben but sure there were many reasons that piled up.
Notice Cenk didn't ask, "What do you think of Matt Gaetz or Margorie Taylor Greene or Nancy Mace or Lindsey Graham?" Purely performative.
Well, they do still hate Lindsey Graham for the one or two times he grew a spine against Trump years ago.
Yes and when Cenk is in that mood he can be very performative. This is really bad.
Everything about him.is shallow and performative
Cenk & Ana are pretty much the "Joe & Minka" of UA-cam at this point.
Yep it's sad to see
Who’s the bigger Karen, Ana or Mika? Really close. Same with the bigger sellout and bootlicker re: Cenk and Joe.
Exactly
I have absolutely no idea who those two people are.
@@MarkunatorJoe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski, the token MAGAts at MSNBC.
Cenk had a golden opportunity to inform the misinformed. Not often a Liberal gets the opportunity to have Maga in a position to listen to facts. He really blew his chance to show what morals and values mean. TYT, not a fan any more. Sorry Cenk.
If you would have told me I'd be watching a Secular Talk video covering the founder of TYT giving a handjob to Charlie Kirk on Turning Point, I'd never believe it, yet here we are.
Charlie Kirk may as well have put a collar and lead on Cenk Uygur to walk him out and get him to sit and be a good boy. 🦮
That wasn't a handjob brother Cenk was wearing his knee pads 🫣🤭🫢😱💯🤮
Because you guys are on the wrong side of history: behind the curve. Stay mad. God bless 🙌
@@solidsalmon4925 delusional you are
Progressives are so fucking cringe
MAGA Cenk’s claim about MAGA embracing others with differing views is total bs, you can agree with MAGA on 99% of policies but the moment you criticize DJT, you’re done. Ask Liz Cheney if you doubt that.
Yeah I noticed that in his entire Charlie Kirk bro Fest he never once criticized Trump. He knows they would cancel him in seconds for that
Sorry dude, but you're living in a delusion. I've seen liberals and leftists purity test over the dumbest things, whereas I've been able to debate conservatives on their dumb positions and still have a beer with them.
"the moment you criticize DJT, you’re done"
Yep. "TDS", if used correctly, would describe the people who lose their shit if you even mildly criticize Trump.
Exactly and yet he goes on their shows to try and reason with the cultists. I refuse to believe he is actually that dumb, he must be selling out.
@ Actually, you sound delusional by refusing to acknowledge that I make my point about MAGA, NOT all conservatives are MAGA. For the hardcore MAGA, you don’t have to agree on anything as long as you believe DJT walks on water and can do no wrong. I have no idea (s) about the people you’ve interacted with but it’s interesting that you ignore my point about criticizing DJT as being the litmus test for any agreement with MAGA.
PS: I don’t care about purity tests either
This has to be the most embarrassing lap dance in history.
Cenk is a big guy, i'm surprised that he can pull it off but here we are
🤣🤣
Nah I think it was Dem’s lap dancing Kamala only to get blown out lol
I think it'll only get worse.
@@lastnamefirstname8843 yes yes, "orange man good," we get it but it's not relevant here
Cenk calls Sam Seder a grifter but he goes and talks with Charlie Kirk cenk you are the biggest grifter with this move it literally makes no sense
Ahh yes. The incoming administration with the most billionaires in history is gonna get money out of politics. Sure, Jan. 😂
Exactly. Stupidest thing i’ve ever heard. The guy who publicly offered to give fossil fuel corporations anything they want for a billion dollar donation to his 2024 campaign is going to be open to getting money out of politics? HIS cultish movement is going to pressure him to do that?
The only people that believe that is delusional MAGA voters.
This is disgusting. I'm unsubscribing from TYT.
We have a proverb in French: "only the insane don't change their mind". It's perfectly fine to reevaluate your support for them and it's perfectly fine to have supported them in the past.
Unsubbed two weeks ago. Glad to be rid of the video thumbnails alone, nvm their rightward shift.
you havent yet? they been terrible for years
How much can one insulate themselves
Dumped my sub to them 6 weeks ago.
Meanwhile Kyles channel is blowing up lately cause he's consistent. Literally had an argument the other day with a tight winger who complained that Kyle says the "same boring stuff" like it's a bad thing
"Tight winger" 😂😂😂
So you believe it’s more important to focus on blowing up individual channels rather than finding common ground to achieve meaningful progress for everyone? It seems like we’re just playing into the establishment’s plan-dividing ourselves instead of working together.
If you believe hatred and bigotry is wrong, it’s hard to work together with hateful bigots. We aren’t dividing anything. The rich elites that own these propagandists are dividing people.
"Meanwhile Kyles channel is blowing up lately cause he's consistent."
On policy, yes. On voting strategy, he's a total hypocrite. Kyle correctly acknowledged that voting third party is totally counterproductived without ranked-choice voting, then endorsed Jill Stein anyway.
@@synchronium24*In states that aren't swing states.
Also, fuck you for thinking Democrats deserve Green votes.
I watched TYT for nearly two decades: Cenk made exactly the argument, that espeacially Trump just appears to be outside the establishment, that Trump is a grifter and only made that claim. Now, all of a sudden, Cenk spun around - and makes exactly the opposite claim! I feel betrayed by TYT, namely Cenk and Ana, and am disgusted by their behaviour now. I lost all trust in them, unsubscribed there, never thought that would be ever happen, and I subscribed multiple other channels, like yours, wich seem to be honest, instead.
Hitler was also ‘fighting the establishment.’
🎯
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@@michaelsieger9133 Lol very true
@@michaelsieger9133 Right up until he became it.
Exactly lol. He did his own jan6 too. It was the beer hall putsch
Thank you Kyle. We need progressive rocks like you, The Majority Report, The Vanguard, etc. to help get this movement stronger than it’s ever been. We won’t cave, we won’t back down!
Everybody five seconds into watching The Majority Report: 😴 🛌
Vanguard sucks, they’ve done nothing helpful and don’t belong on the list. They’re probably right wing funded
For what?, doing nothing?. the only ones benefiting from ideological purity or nothing is UA-camrs like him, in the real world the next election is in 4 years, and the most good has to be done
and it is very clear we will keep losing unless something changes
@@winningtakescareofeverythi8438 only for those who came there for right wing boot licking .
They booed Mitch McConnell and Dick Cheyney, but who are they cheering for Cenk? Jfc
Well, they're cheering for him. That's why they're suddenly not so bad. Sheesh!
They are cheering war monger Trump and his neo con supporters
MAGA has no concept of policy, its either Team Trump or enemies.
He is openly bad mouthing democrats by name. He is also purposefully leaving trumps name out of the conversation. He’s invoking dog whistles left and right to trumps base. These people have no intention of working along side the left. They need and live to hate. They would rather burn this country to the ground than share one inch of it with black or brown people.
@@PresidentByNameOnlylol they ain’t cheering for *him* they’re cheering cause he’s talking shit about the left and republicans that they don’t like. 😂
Thanks!
Kyle is 100% correct on his assessment of Cenk.
😑
I guess it an emerg measure to try to reach across the bow, but I don’t think it matters now. Kyle’s right. Right r TFG and won’t learn until they see what cheat toe has in store for them. Not gonna like it but it is what it is.
the only ppl that defend tyt on their comments are right wingers that tells you all about them.
Never thought i'd see the day when Cenk became Kirk's useful idiot. But here we are.
KK advocates for not cooperating and do nothing instead of trying to find areas in which cooperate. His is all for ideological purity because as a grifter he lives our of polarization. This is disgraceful
TYT appeared to be having existential problems before Nov 5. This is a pathetic attempt at relevance
I seen it coming after they took millions from a Republican in 2017 .
He lives like a capitalist everyday.
They would bash Kirk and them. Now look… sad to see.
Cenk is a one step away from putting on the MAGA hat.
Not at all..
Or maybe he’s just tired of the stochastic terrorism, hate, and spite on the left wing who want nothing but power. Like, what the fuck do you think unity would look like? I reached across the aisle and voted Republican for the 2nd time in my life this election because my old party - your party - is fucking hideous. Looks like many of us did because we want unity unlike you bitter, twisted horrors of the Dumbocrat party.
He likely has bought one...
@ Let’s hope so.
Nope
They don’t get that stuff because Cenk won’t say it.
Kyle is saying this stuff like Cenk doesn’t know. He knows but he’s trying to get more views and clicks and all that.
And the thing is..he’s already wealthy. The idea he would sell out all his ideals..it’s disgusting. Just offensive.
And the worst is he hides behind Trump voters to avoid criticism. I just can’t watch him. He’s pathetic
Cenk's ego was always massive and he could never take even the mildest criticism, now it has gotten the better of him.
He's willing to be humiliated by right wingers though.
@@17thsavior In pursuit of popularity to feed his ego.
100%
Because he ran for office and realized they would never accept him. Tulsi 2.0?
In pursuit of $$.
Tyt is done
Yep done
Facts
Nah they've got money coming from somewhere. They'll be around...
not really. u jus mad cuz everybody leaving u behind. looooooooooool.
Done like dinner
Cenk trying to find a money lane in the Trump era. Sad.
precisely
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@@popsceneblur06 Trump was already president for four years and TYT was deeply critical of him the entire time. They massively grew subscribers during that time too. that speaking to pundits who dissent your POV is a “money lane” is a very lazy argument. Echo chambers brought us Trump.
@@DyMuhlbergoverusing the term “echo chambers” is very lazy
@@DyMuhlbergTYT started veering right after they took millions from a Republican donor in 2017 .
I had to stop listening half way through but now I’ve come back and it’s worse. What a FRAUD!
Its official. Kyle is breaking up with Cenk and Ana.
Thank God.
Wouldn't be the first time. I remember they broke up for a time during the Jimmy Dore Vs Cenk and Ana drama.
I mean, we're talking about Klana Kasparian & team...
Again
@@Phatooine Ironically, Cenk and Ana were on the right side of that one. Kyle pulled his punches against Jimmy Dore. It was also several years for him to admit that his "good friend Joe" Rogan was a hack.
Thanks! You are now going to get my TYT money. Wish I found you long ago instead of a few months ago!
😂😂😂
Notice Cenk didn't ask what they thought of Bernie Sanders.
He's not dumb. Anyone pretending that Cenk is just being naive about this is giving him too much credit.
@@vinnym5607yup. He knows what he’s doing.
Bernie is a marxist Jew. F that guy and F you. MAGA FOR LIFE
Gaddam Kyle, mad respect for tearing into Cenk's BS and being the rarer lefty with a spine
It is really embarrassing to watch Cenk up there thinking these people agree with him.
It's sad, I don't know how you can be old and experienced and still think conservatives aren't hyenas who don't care about you.
I genuinely don’t believe Cenk is stupid enough to believe that this response is genuine or that Elon or Don Jr. are sincere in any way regarding pentagon spending.
His media literacy is better than that. He’s proved it as such for years. Are we supposed to believe he suddenly forgot?
He agrees with them. He's on board with White Nationalists now. Ana has been on their team for years already.
Truly disgusting stuff. He’ll be supporting trump before next Christmas
No he won’t. He’s simply saying “we lost and have no power. I think the guys that won suck but if 5% of the stuff they do is good, I’m going to help to make sure the good stuff gets done.” This is politics, not war.
@@davidkast3587 That is stupid. They're not serious about helping anyone. They're not populists.
@@davidkast3587you're really naive if you believe that
@@agag2684 you actually think that cenk uygur, who has probably been ranting against republicans on YT since before you were born, is now a right winger?
@@agag2684You’re being ignorant for saying that. Cenk has been around for too long.
This truly breaks my heart. TYT was how I got into left wing ideas and for him to devolve to this? Disappointing.
Same with me
Same here, it's truly a shame what happened to them
Same here. Honestly breaks my heart.
Same
Same. It's truly disheartening.
So according to Charlie Kirk, you have a constitutional right to own a gun, but not to have a shelter over your head.
Yep, these people are insane.
I think you have right for both. In case of gun you need to buy it so it shelter
That’s a correct legal statement about the constitution.
I mean that's not incorrect. we shouldn't have a right to a gun and we should have a right to housing but we don't.
@@SUFFICIENCYtoLIBERTY
Sorry, I should have clarified. The way I framed it is legally correct. The way Charlie frames it is not. I should have put that Charlie believes you have an "unlimited right to own a gun".
Many gun control laws, like background checks, red flag laws and gun licensing have been deemed constitutional. The things that Cenk is pushing for are constitutional. Charlie is incorrect to bring up 2A in response to his arguments.
The fact that he's willing to take an extremist (because his view goes beyond the constitutional protections) view towards guns while at the same time taking a laisse-faire view towards the right to shelter demonstrates how insane he is.
Kyle, you are my absolute favorite political pundit on the UA-cam left! You are a wealth of knowledge! I learn so much from you, and I’m super thankful for that! Thank you! We need you! Don’t ever stop
Because he read CHOMSKY! 👏👏Enlighned me too
I’m so glad Kyle finally addressed this. This was absolutely humiliating for him to cave to MAGA.
Agreed. Given his morals, I was a little surprised and frustrated that it took him so long , but I guess that just shows that Kyle is loyal to a fault.
@@Lavender_Hazes It might be a slight fault that he waits to burn bridges until it's unavoidable, but it can also be viewed as a good thing too. Depends on the train of thought as to how effective it is to try getting someone's ear and making them come to their senses, rather than do it from a position where they view you as an enemy.
Did you not see Kyle on Mike Figerado's Humanist Report? He addressed this topic already.
@@Lavender_HazesGuessing he was waiting to make sure the switch was actually happening. Or that it's just hard to accept it's happening
I do agree, it's nice to have it directly and loudly called out. He wasn't exactly defending them either though. I can respect the fact that he does attempt to provide feedback in private first, before burning bridges entirely.
Cenk is not stupid or gullible, he is pandering for money. I use to love him thinking he is principled but he is just a grifter.
He is all three.
This man sat and broke bread with a man that gleefully said “there **is** no Constitutional Right to housing.”
Kyle doing one hour of Cenk bashing presenting the facts Cenk failed to do with Charlie is what I needed this Christmas.
And they will STILL accuse him of clipping them out of context.
Merry Christmas! 😄
@@Zarastro54they who? All the comments on YT from either side all say cenk is just grifting 😂😂😂😂😂
@@standard6502 Cenk and Ana. They have been accusing their critics of clipping them out of context no matter how thorough the critique is.
@@standard6502 I think Zarastro's referring to a potential future response from Cenk and Ana towards Kyle
The grift is so fucking real. Been saying this for years about Cenk and Ana.
Both are two faced
💯
Especially Ana
Kyle is more forgiving than me. This doesn't strike me as "Cenk thinks he's right," this strikes me as "all that Peter Thiel money I've been receiving is great." TYT is captured media now. Keep up the good fight Kyle!
100%!
I wonder what any of these "soros soros soros" guys have anything to say about Peter Thiel, like Jimmy Dore?
Absolutely, the change of tax bracket has he and Ana foaming at the mouth for more .
everybody is tired of u lftest. they sicc of u.
Kyle probably knows that Cenk really believes this and is not grifting. It's ok to disagree and debate but callin someone a grifter like all the other shows would be disingenuous.
Kyle - you are SO spot on with everything you said! 👏🏽
There's a reason AOC was on TMR recently
What's TMR
@thewholeworldisbeautiful The Majority Report
@@thewholeworldisbeautiful
"You should check it out!"😂
@@thewholeworldisbeautiful How the hell do you watch Secular Talk and not know about the Majority Report?
it succs
TYT is done
Their subscriber count is crashing, hourly,
Yes they are done
Democrats are done. The progressive movement is ancient history
I’m a republican and I think they are cooked. They are even more right wing than I am at this point.
@@tinasummers4578At least for the left.
It was so absolutely cathartic to hear Kyle speak about this. He is 100% correct, and it feels good to know that we all are correct about TYT. It’s obvious Cenk just needs to make money, he is an absolute joke. Thank you, Kyle!
I honestly don't think it's about money. What money? Where lol you think someone billionaire is giving him money? I think he's genuinely naive in thinking this. Which isnt nefarious just dumb
Kyle isn't far behind. He will male a rightward heel turn too
@@TroyBrownTV Stop talking nonsense you can't substantiate.
@@TroyBrownTV lmfao
@@Bluespirit12345 I guess it just looks like he’s trying to get right wing and Trump supporters to watch his channel, but more importantly become paying members
Cenk has made taking an L into a sport at this point. He's gone too far for anyone to take him seriously. Congrats, my dude. You played yourself.
There is another word for populist right. Fascist
WTF is Cenk Doing man ?
Breaking bread, looking for common ground and agreement with the likes of Charlie "I get nervous if I see a black pilot flying the plane I'm on" Kirk. Ridiculous.
Exactly! Yet he won't have a conversation with any of the leftists who criticized him. He just calls them the radical left. It's maddening
This was the end for me. I was willing to see what he and Ana were trying to do until they appeared with Glenn beck and now with white supremest Charlie Kirk. I have no problem with PBD or even Ben Shapiro. But when you’re going to engage with this crew… you lost me. I can’t with Cenk and Ana anymore. There are others on TYT I can rock with, but I just can’t with this.
i'd get nervous if i see a kirk looking pilot with a face that's too small for his bigass head flying the plane. freak looks like a robot or a weirdo from outer space. abnormal looking primate.
He didn't even challenge him about any of that. Gross.
Its funny, you throw that quote out there, and Cenk himself ran a story on it, and how horrible he is
"You guys are more accepting"
THIS IS NOT A SOCIAL CLUB OR A FRIEND GROUP. THIS IS POLITICS. STOP THIS, CENK.
of course they're more accepting. They have no standards for acceptance beyond whether you will do what the rich say
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@@andrewkoster6506 Exactly, but why do you think Cenk's doing this? He's rich, went to the same school as Trump, and he has the same connections Trump has. He's well off for life.
----- While they separate immigrant families, Ban Muslims from the country, impose Jim Crow on Black people, segregate schools, ban history, oppress LGBTQ and Women etc
Cenk & Ana are disgusting
They’re being “more accepting” because they view Cenk now as slowing coming on to their side and talking negatively about the Democratic Party- which they agree with. Why can’t he see that? Lmao
My first UA-cam leftist I started with were TYT, Kyle, and the Amazing Atheist ( before he went nuts 🌰) then I found the Majority Report and others.
I can’t take TYT anymore.
Amazing Atheist... 😅 One of the original UA-cam grifters.
I’m not even half way through the video yet and already disgusted…. I understand the strategy of trying to unite people…. But all Cenk is trying to do is unite people behind Trump! TF. TYT went to hell.
And they are responsible for Trump winning by swaying the left to the right.
Trump is anti-war why wouldn't they?
So is maga the establishment or truly radical? Cant be both at the same time.
‘If you can’t beat them, join them.’
Cenk Uygur
“If you can’t beat them, HAVE SOMER BEERS”
Shaky gerga
Real life Kevin Durant
Thanks to Kyle for including more of his comments than the other channels with context. You can really see how bad it is at this length.
@@lawrencetuider1177Cenk is garbage bad comparison to Durant wtf
And the Democrats and progressives have proven. They can't beat Trump.
When do Cenk and Ana go to Mar-a-lago?
My favorite part was the fact cenk sent out a tweet basically going "for those who think we are moving right, check out this debate im gonna have with charlie and see for yourself how wrong that is" only for him to make me think even more that he is turning right is honestly funny af. Like the way he tweeted it i was expecting serious push back against charlie and him to call out the worse side which is maga republicans, but he was basically up their kicking his feet and holding charlies hand as he and himself solely attacked the left xD.
Michael Brooks would be so ashamed of this!
Cenk is like Fetterman a disappointment that keeps disappointing
Absolutely 💯 and yet I remember Cenk saying Fetterman is a disappointment and a fake progressive lol look at TYT now, eh? 😂
Exactly ❤
But if you are for progressive causes, then you should be talking to people that you don’t agree with. You can’t have a movement and think it’s totally fine to dismiss people you don’t politically or ideologically agree with. That is the dumbest strategy I’ve seen any movement try to pick up. Even Malcolm X and Martin Luther King used to hold meetings with the KKK.
@@MrMalcolm900 MLK never publicly held hands w/a clansman...
Ehh no. Frtterman immediately shifted right upon entry. TYT has almost a decade of credibility unlike fetterman
Tyt has lost 30,000 subscribers so far this month. Doesn't look good for them going forward.
I was one of them, I wish I could get the cost of my year subscription to TYT back as well
I unsubscribed from TYT awhile back. Didn’t like what I was hearing!
I was as well. I still watch The Damage Report. Hoping John, Francesca and Jayar get out.
@kevin
Ditto
Also we are talking about active youtube accounts that are unsubscribing. i assume that 75% of TYT's subscribers are dead accounts from 10 years ago.
When Cenk brags about being a business man he really shows his true colors. The profitability of TYT is always going to be his number one priority.
Cenk is gonna call Kyle a pro establishment hack because of this video lol
Kyle over here with his sellout polymarket money. Oh wait lol
Cenk is literally following the Jimmy Dore arc but almost a decade late, after (rightfully) having so much to say about it Jimmy Dore in the past. Meanwhile Ana Kasparian is following the Dave Rubin arc, also almost a decade late, after rightfully again having so much to say about him in the past. This is pathetic beyond belief but I guess it shouldn’t be surprising given that their very own network produced two of the most meme’d “left the left” grifters in the right wing space.
Remember when Jimmy Dore said the anti-war left should team up with the “anti-war” right, like Mike Cernovich, and Jimmy got mocked into oblivion? Cenk is now doing exactly that.
He is though.
@@justicedemocrat9357 go watch your Jimmy Dore and leave actual discussion to the adults
@@Gabriel2oh6 Maybe come down from your high horse and live in reality instead of discussing fantasy.
I wish I could unsubscribe from TYT twice.
Unsub from secular talk. This shit is also owned by tyt
@@TheHarshWay STFU, you're clueless beyond reasonable doubt.
Easy: unsubscribe, subscribe, unsubscribe.
Lol true!!
@@TheHarshWayPretty sure that’s not true
"I didn't leave the LEFT. The LEFT left me!" Routine is weeks if not months away.
Ana pretty much said it.
The important thing is to never examine why people are leaving the movement. Remember, they're the problem and you are never the problem
@@anovaprint4713the problem is there’s more money in being a right wing hack
I think it's pretty accurate to say the left left TYT, and for good reason too.
Jesus Cenk is debasing himself in front of MGATs. Charlie is joking around as we speak that Trump could have Cenk offer his wife to him 🤦
Cenk literally mocked me on air because i suggested we needed a general strike... That was 6 years ago. Now he's basically calling for it but refusing to do anything. So what does he do? Cozies up to musk. What the flying fuck
@@nearthefarworld At the end of the day Cenk is a business owner. The word "strike" puts fear into his bones.
Bribed and bought.
That is how coward’s work
@@ChinnuWoWI don't believe he's bribed but I believe he's certainly prioritizing his business over ethics and moral obligations
@@tinasummers4578I think this is an accurate rebuttal to Cenks behaviours. He's brave against those he sees as smaller. When it comes to someone he views as a titan, he is much less confrontational.
Trump loves free speech as long as you’re praising him.
Free speech for Trump only
And yet he calls sam seder a grifter lol
He is a liar
Kyle is grifter no1 lol
who calls Sam Seder a grifter?
@@-GTP316how is Kyle a grifter?
@@tinasummers4578 what did Sam lie about? Please explain.
Thank you Kyle for an intellectually honest takedown of Cenk. The fact that everybody jumped to calling him a grifter was unproductive; but it's undeniable he's being a moron recently.
I’d say the fake left who thinks coddling neoliberals are the morons
Cenk and TYT is just sad now. John Iadorola is one of the only good ones left. He needs to leave and join Sam Seder and the majority report
Majority report needs more money. Be a paying member if you can
Francesca is great too!
@@bullsfan2021 Yeah Fran and John need to figure out a "abandon the sinking ship plan"
@@litoo2002 | Most of them are great. It's just the top two that aren't anymore. Like Anthony Scaramucci said, the fish rots from the head down.
im completely done with TYT
No your not liar 😂
@ how much you trying to lose ?
When you bend the knee, while furiously insisting to yourself that you're not bending the knee... For SHAME, TYT.
He should stop claiming he's a representative of the left.
So tell me: what does the unification of the left and right actually look like?
Kyle just doesn't get it as is completely out of touch with the rest of America. He hasn't done the proper self reflection to understand WHY we lost. We have to start embracing MAGA causes if we want to win elections. We need to embrace Trumpism exactly like TYT is doing in order to win back the white house again.
Kyle just doesn't get it and is woefully out of touch. He doesn't do the proper self reflection to understand WHY we lost so badly on Nov 5th. We have to support MAGA causes if we want to win elections again. We have to embrace Trumpism again just like Cenk is doing in order to take back the whitehouse again.
@@costco_pizza nice attempt at trolling 👌
Kirk saying the "right wing revolution" was successful, when they are literally following a bunch of billionaires cutting taxes for the rich. I'd call it idiotic, but it's actually quite calculated - and Cenk didn't disagree one bit with that lie.
Genuinely repulsive what he and Ana have become.
This is truly disappointing and disgusting. You want us to find middle ground with people like Charlie Kirk? An open racist who said that if he’s seen a black pilot, he would question if he’s qualified. Cenk is going out bad
Thank you!!!!
Yep Cenk fell down that rabbit whole
Just never speak with anyone you disagree with. Then everyone around you agrees with you! That’s politics! Great job. 😂
Talk to yourself instead of others. Then you can guarantee that you agree with what you hear.
Perfect job stay in your echo chamber and continue losing lmao
Cenk is a clown at this point
Seems the Democrat party is finished. Ain't gonna win the House in 2026. Ain't gonna win anything, as we MAGA have Elon's bucks.
Agreed. Almost as big a clown as Ana Kasparian!
His way of bully yelling and tantrum throwing so loud that Hasan was like “you need to stop”…and now telling these people they’re anti establishment after voting Elon/trump is crazy.
Always has been to me!!!
The fact that he thinks this is the best way to go forward, and that he's the "best leftist", makes me think he is actually really stupid.
That was by far the best take on this issue of anyone Kyle. Cenk needs to sit down, open his ears, and listen to this segment, seriously.
He won’t. His ego won’t allow him. He will justify himself, gaslight and shout. He isn’t worth wasting time over. Progressives have to learn to fight the upcoming battles without TYT