I am native Russian speaker. And I have to admit, Viggo's Russian is pretty impressive. It is really good. Not perfect, but much better than most of foreign actors Russian
I speak Russian too, and i agree. Viggo speaks - i think - around 5 languages. Russian is clearly not one of them, he struggles sometimes with pronounciation, but he does an excellent job for a non native speaker.
@@Fyllosofen He might be mixed up and mean one of the scandanavian dialects? Or he's repeating something he's read that was Interpreted wrongly? Sort of lost intranslation. It's possible.
The song you hear throughout nearly the whole scene is "Slavery and Suffering" by the world renowned Alexandrov Ensemble or Red Army Choir. What a powerful touch it added to this scene.
@@TheReasonableLiberal-hn2rs no if you are already in their criminal family it means you are god of this criminal underworld u dont have any boss in russian mafia every vorzakon have same right even if russian mafia boss breaks rule even new vorzakone can disrespect him
yeah, I have to agree, I am from Kazakhstan, which is the old USSR, and it is a big problem in our countries( CIS countries like Russia, Armenia Kyrgyzstan etc.,). Kids at school used to follow this bullshit code and claim this life, but it never ends .well
When all the people in leadership positions are corrupt and more or less follow the same bullshit code, and when there is no one else for the kids to look up to, kids will look up to the corrupt figures, and think it is an honorable way of life. It is a sad reality not only in former Soviet Republics, but in other countries where corruption rules (Most of S.E Asia, S. America, Mexico and China). You will often hear people in those countries refer to corrupt people in positions of influence as 'smart'. How they reach that absurd conclusion is beyond me, but the REAL smart people in those countries who want to make something of themselves through a creative process and have a positive impact on the society will be cheated in the end by the corrupt people. When corruption rules, you have no choice but to follow, and when you follow, you just reinforce the corrupt system. So, it is understandable that kids at school follow the bullshit code because they must have figured subconsciously that that is the only way to be a 'somebody'. I hope you find a way to leave Kazakhstan and settle in a place where you can find opportunities to make something of yourself, because those countries where corruption rules DO NOT DESERVE to have the REAL smart people working for them.
At 2:33 subtitles say: "Now i live in the zone all the time" which is not a correct translation. "Na zone" means "in prison". "Zona" is a russian slang term for prison and it has nothing to do with psychological term "zone". "Zona" literally means "area".
Im Polish. Polish and Russian is in some ways similar to each other - like „Good Evening” - „Dobry wieczór”. Sounds exactly like it and it makes me smile, because I feel like they’re speaking my language, I know its stupid, but i like it.
Hello, Slavic Brother! We love you, Poles are good people! F**k politics, we all are the same! No hate and no ruso/polonophobia, it's sick ideology and it ruins relationship between our nations! Jebać kurw politycznych!!!
Если не дай Бог будет война, я никогда в жизни не выстрелю в поляка/украинца/чеха/болгара/хорвата! Лучше дезертирую или пойду под суд, но в славян стрелять не буду! Это ПРЕСТУПЛЕНИЕ, и не только военное преступление, а преступление перед здравым смыслом и перед нашими ОБЩИМИ предками, которые когда-то очень давно жили все вместе, дружили и женились вместе...
Jeśli nie daj Boże będzie wojna, nigdy w życiu nie zastrzelę Polaka / Ukraińca / Czecha / Bułgara / Chorwata! Lepiej ucieknę albo pójdę do sądu, ale do Słowian nie będę strzelał! To ZBRODNIA i to nie tylko zbrodnia wojenna, ale zbrodnia przeciwko zdrowemu rozsądkowi i przeciwko naszym WSPÓLNYM przodkom, którzy kiedyś żyli wszyscy razem bardzo długo, byli przyjaciółmi i pobrali się razem...
stars on their shoulders or knees impale people who adhere to criminal concepts. but this is not an indicator of a "thief in law". this guy would have had them already. with respect. from Russia
if you are a non-Russian who wants to watch a realistic Russian crime drama - watch Бумер (2003) there're no, like, big bosses - mostly the life of a "soldiers" on the ground, but the atmosphere, the language, wild and poor post-soviet Russia landscapes - authentic. the official version can be found on youtube, with eng subs (very simplified, but still) - cannot add the link, youtube filters it
@@tristan-y2k i cannot think of any purely gangster movies, but if you are interested, there's one that is partially and is a very good movie: Как Витька Чеснок Вёз Лёху Штыря в Дом Инвалидов (2017) It has mafia as part of the plot, especially towards the end, and some criminals portrayed psychologically very well, one scene is so real you feel scared - you'll know which one if you watch it. It is available on youtube, unfortunately w/o subtitles, but subtitles can be found online. It should be possible to use them with help of some Chrome extension.
The ceremony is calling "coronation". Authoritative gangsters confirms Thief-status of Viggo's character. Now he equal to them. And insulting parents was overdoing. Viggo could kill him with impunity for that words
You would have to be (preferably SIROTA - orphan), start stealing at early age( younger is better), get caught, do time, progress. Live "right way", no wife , kids, property of any sort (Vor's house is prison). Vor's family is Bratva. NEVER EVER WORK OR SERVE. % of your crimes "zasilit v obschak" . NEVER COOPERATE WITH GOVERNMENT.
Ни разу в моей памяти иностранцы не могут достойно русских сыграть, будь то то военные , будь то мафия, то лампасы на штаны у генералов на пол ноги то погоны вкривь, то у бандитов разговоры как у русских подростков, ой не могу, может для иностранцев и восторг, но для русского это смотришь и думаешь как и почему "голливуд" и что не могут слова выучить, возьми наших так почему то английйский еще лучше в фильмах чем у самих англичан, а эти что в 80-х что сейчас только 2 слова сука да бля..ь и то выговорить не могут, ребята ребята и при всем уважении к экономике этих стран и только , поэтому ребятки по духу до русских вам ой как далеко, делайте лучше что умеете, а именно кушайте гамбургеры, а так что для русского good , то для вас пиз...ц ОЙ НЕ МОГУ!
ой не могу, досмотрел еще пару минут и дописать не выдержал, а усы усы! актеру надо было до пупа нахерячить, чего уж там! 🤣🤣🤣 да а чего они не на медведях сидят верхом!🤣 , ну вы даете, понятно что такую х..ю всерьез не воспринимают , но вы хоть бы изобразили серьезно подготовили посмотрели как люди разговаривают, ну короче поржал🤣 как говорят а где таких русски то нашли🤣
@@jamesphillips5868 insulting his mother? Real "vor" would kill them right there There are 600 of them in the world and 395 is from georgia (i am georgian too) here in georgia you cant talk about someones mother like that or you will regret it i know in america there are "mom jokes" but in georgia you will do that and you are dead man
I wonder in this scene if the other heads who attended the initiation knew Viggos’s character was getting the stars, only as a ply to be set up to be killed by the chechens
To nie prawda, żaden wor w zakonie nie mógł zajmować się osobiście żadnym handlem, nawet kradzionych rzeczy nie mógł tego robić osobiście, jako zlodziej w zakonie,druga rzecz że nie mógł posiadać własnego majatku jak również żony czy dzieci, natomiast gdzie kolwiek by się udał do znajomych wszędzie musiałbym szczodrze ugoszczony i mile widziany. Vor kradnie, handluje baryga,baryga nie może być vorem
@@FoxyUKyes, but they put so much effort into it, that some people might think it is more realistic than the regular portrayal of the Russian mafia in the Western movies, whereas it is not
Feyr I like these indi movies which shoes the lifstyle without trying to be toooo hollywood esque about the whole thing. i live in weybridge Surrey and its funny how my area holds more Russian mobsters then anywehere else. A guy was found strangled in his bathroom and had links to organized crime less then a mile away from where I live. Never been solved happened two years ago was big news.
He was never cooperative with guards or any authorities while in prison. This is why he spent two years in the punishment block. Vory v zakone are never to cooperate with, nor accept parole or special favors from prison guards regardless of what hardships it may bring.
okay guys ... I'll tell you this ... all that is shown here is sheer nonsense. and why is he naked?!?! this is generally nonsense. And the stars really prick on the shoulders or knees. it is done by people who adhere to thieves' concepts
Is naked because In the Russian Mod the tattoos are important, all his tattoos was made in prison and one of them tell all is history in the organization. Now the stars in the knees are correct, well in Russia but in the knees cuz never gonna down to the authority and authority is Police. A mod and gang tattoo you maybe say is the Hombreras un you shoulder , like a soldier . Hope like it man peace .
@@tank3dies3l The problem is - once he reached this stage where he is already being made, everybody pretty much knows who he is, what's he done and his reputation on the streets, so no need to investigate his tatoos at this stage. This is nonsense.
@@gio7796 ooo ok , but the think about tattoos it’s like some real no , I say for Latinos or Gangmemers of Latinos have ink then show how he is . Thanxfor answer bro
Что ты хочешь от иностранцев когда даже те фильмы про криминал что в россии снимают являются смешным и не правдоподобным бредом. Возьми ту же сценку с плевком из антикиллера или разговор саши белого в бригаде с вором итд. - сущий бред далёкий от реальности. Даже само понятие «вор в законе» придумано органами, в преступном мире их так не называют.
@@416raptor6 Фильмы Бригада, Бумер, Брат и другие, хоть и с долей художественного преувеличения, но все-таки соответствуют и духу своего времени и российским реалиям. А в данном случае сняли развесистую клюкву, которая отвечает только их собственному иррациональному страху перед Россией. Именно его тут и обсасывают. Отчего ещё забавнее). Европейцы с североамериканцами обсуждают степень достоверности придуманной ими русской реальности. 🤣🤣🤣
@@user-nb7wz3gd6i Речь идет о том как изображен воровской мир и их традиции а не то что российские фильмы более близки по духу российскому зрителю. Это само собой разумеется. Я про то что даже в фильмах снятых в россии это показано не так как это происходит в реально жизни, не просто преувеличенно а в корне не верно. Разница только в том что тебе более близки по духу фильмы с русскими актёрами снятые русскими режиссёрами. А так как российский кинематограф в принципе кроме россии никому не интересен то запад снимает свои фильмы на эту тему в стиле в котором легче воспринимать западному зрителю. А про страх перед россией - не смеши.
@@416raptor6 Судя по тому, как ты по- хамски перешёл на ты, значит сказанное мной тебя задело, а стало быть я все по делу сказала). Кстати у нас в России принято с незнакомыми людьми разговаривать на вы.. И особенно те, кто сидел, о вежливости очень хорошо знают, иначе просто не выживешь. Так что хорош тут из себя знатока криминальной этики строить, не проканает. Теперь о российском кино. Разумеется его снимают для российской аудитории и как-то всем пофиг - заходит оно кому-то ещё или нет. И, конечно, как я уже говорила, бывают и художественные преувеличения и неточности. Но хорошее русское кино про криминал смотреть не стыдно. А вот этот западный шлак - просто испанский стыд. Как и твое невнятное бормотанье. А по поводу иррационального страха, это не мои догадки - это 90% образов русских, представленных в американском и западноевропейском кино Образы коварных и всемогущих русских отморозков именно оттуда.
@@user-nb7wz3gd6i что у вас в россии принято меня мало волнует так как я не живу на этой мусорке, для меня «вы» это когда вас много либо я тебя уважаю. Твое российское кино тебе не стыдно смотреть так как у тебя низкие стандарты как по отношению к кино так и к уровню жизни в целом. А вот по поводу образа русских в западных фильмах как отморозков это ты верно подметила, только это не значит что вас боятся а значит то что смотрят как на дикарей и на быдло и так оно и есть в большинстве случаев.
I don't understand why a life of crime would ever be viewed as something as honorable. Stealing, cheating, lying, murdering... all of this is for people who are unsophisticated. Thugs. With so much money and "connections" why don't they go into a legitimate business? I'm sure they'd be successful. And there would not be any trouble with the law. It seems stupid.
Ever heard of the term “honour among thieves” ? Plus you’d be surprised at how often the people on the “right” side of the law, such as police / people who uphold the supposed justice system, partake in the unsophisticated behaviours you mentioned. Namaste.
I am not justifying these "thugs" as you called them. But I might try to explain where this view of this as something as honorable, came from. HISTORY: The thing is, Law and Authorities were many times compromised throughout Russian history. Russia was never a true land of human rights as it is understood in the western democracies and common people were usually a mere resource (that can be wasted largely if needed) for those in power (you can not even imagine how cruel historically Russia was to its people). Those who know Russian history can confirm that there were (comparatively to western countries) too much abuse and cruelty from Russia as a state to its own people. This created some sort of genetic hatred from the Russian population towards the Russian state authorities (not to confuse with Russia as motherland). And it's considered by Russian criminals as self-disrespect to work for/collaborate with authorities/police. SUB-CULTURE: Another thing is is that the Ideology of "Vor v Zakone" ("thief in the Law") was created by NKVD to manage the millions of prisoners (during 1920s) from inside and by authoritative and respected prisoners themselves, but it eventually turned into an autonomous Russian criminal sub-culture with its own ideology and complex system of values (and their own unwritten code of honor "Ponyatiya") that denies any forms of official authorities upon themselves, but not only that is the essence of the code. HUMAN NATURE: And the third thing is human nature. Truly genuine "Vor v zakone" is some sort of a uber-charismatic-Don-Corleone-like Godfather in terms of personal traits, meaning that no ordinary human being can become "Vor v zakone", it takes courage, ability to be just, morality (in their own understanding though) willpower, guts, intellect, and commitment to their code. They are some sort of criminal Daimyos of criminal samurais. But that's what it is believed to be, a fiction, in reality, most of these dudes are low-moral thugs. RESUME: answering your question of why it is viewed as something as honorable, in my opinion, it is some sort of fusion of many "attractive" ideas: an Idea of manly man (but in the criminal world), an Idea of alfa-predator/alfa-male, an idea of honoring a code, an Idea of not serving the authorities (which abused their own people), an Idea of being strong and just to colect rspect of your own criminal community, etc, etc, etc, etc
The Russian government and "legal" authorities are just parts of the greater underworld, especially in the 80's and 90's. Right now, you're a Westerner projecting your view of the world onto a culture and complex society you'll never be able to truly understand, even if you dedicate your life to its study. There is no way of legally running a "legitimate" company in Russia or most Eastern European/former Soviet states without getting involved with the "thugs" as the "thugs" are the government and legal authorities. In summary, the only way for them to get into "legitimate business" is to do what they do. As in our region, it's the only real way to be successful.
I am native Russian speaker. And I have to admit, Viggo's Russian is pretty impressive. It is really good. Not perfect, but much better than most of foreign actors Russian
I speak Russian too, and i agree. Viggo speaks - i think - around 5 languages. Russian is clearly not one of them, he struggles sometimes with pronounciation, but he does an excellent job for a non native speaker.
Интересно одно, как он, родившийся и выросший в США, так свободно выучил русский.
@ Who ever gave you the idea that "Scandinavian dialect" is a language? It is not.
@@Fyllosofen He might be mixed up and mean one of the scandanavian dialects? Or he's repeating something he's read that was Interpreted wrongly? Sort of lost intranslation. It's possible.
@ I looked it up, just for fun. Seven languages - English, French, Spanish, Danish, Italian, Arabic and Catalan.
Viggo mortensen...such an incredible actor and so multi talented..he's also a polyglot.. amazing!!
Can u say name of this movie
@@thegameboy8313 Eastern promises
It's a shame they never made a sequel.
What a treat that would have been to all of us
Russiagate made certain of that
@@dataman6744 Democrats ruin everything don’t they
Its out now WoW
@@lennarthagen3638 no way lol
The song you hear throughout nearly the whole scene is "Slavery and Suffering" by the world renowned Alexandrov Ensemble or Red Army Choir.
Russian is a beautiful language in my opinion. Viggo Mortensen really hit it on the nose in this scene and plenty of the scenes like this.
I would say it has a strange beauty to it.
The song you hear throughout nearly the whole scene is "Slavery and Suffering" by the world renowned Alexandrov Ensemble or Red Army Choir. What a powerful touch it added to this scene.
I am dead already. I died when I was 15. Now I shine in the box all the time.
Stars in the knee means never bow down to no authorities
Ok now that amkes more sense. I though but wouldn't have to bow down to his boss? Not bowing down the cops makes more sense to me.
It means i bow down only in front of my mother and only in front of god
@@TheReasonableLiberal-hn2rs no if you are already in their criminal family it means you are god of this criminal underworld u dont have any boss in russian mafia every vorzakon have same right even if russian mafia boss breaks rule even new vorzakone can disrespect him
@@TheReasonableLiberal-hn2rs the star on the knee means, you will not bow down to anyone except god and your Pakhan
@@giorgosk6754 I've heard some bullshit in my time, but this one is pretty special.
yeah, I have to agree, I am from Kazakhstan, which is the old USSR, and it is a big problem in our countries( CIS countries like Russia, Armenia Kyrgyzstan etc.,). Kids at school used to follow this bullshit code and claim this life, but it never ends .well
For real?
@@traydollaz5671 yes
@@traydollaz5671 yes it is. Try googling "AUE" - i think there was a wiki article about that.
When all the people in leadership positions are corrupt and more or less follow the same bullshit code, and when there is no one else for the kids to look up to, kids will look up to the corrupt figures, and think it is an honorable way of life. It is a sad reality not only in former Soviet Republics, but in other countries where corruption rules (Most of S.E Asia, S. America, Mexico and China). You will often hear people in those countries refer to corrupt people in positions of influence as 'smart'. How they reach that absurd conclusion is beyond me, but the REAL smart people in those countries who want to make something of themselves through a creative process and have a positive impact on the society will be cheated in the end by the corrupt people. When corruption rules, you have no choice but to follow, and when you follow, you just reinforce the corrupt system. So, it is understandable that kids at school follow the bullshit code because they must have figured subconsciously that that is the only way to be a 'somebody'. I hope you find a way to leave Kazakhstan and settle in a place where you can find opportunities to make something of yourself, because those countries where corruption rules DO NOT DESERVE to have the REAL smart people working for them.
@@traydollaz5671 yea, this "aue" shit has already took a lot of children lifes
Viggo Mortensen in the epic film Eastern Promises
Русский криминальный авторитет никогда не скажет плохое про родителей, святая тема которая под запретом!
И я думаю, что ни один блатной не стерпит (и, уж тем более, не признает), что его мать была шлюхой.
такой бы вопрос никогда бы и не задали
I wondered about that. In this scene they were setting him up, anyway. He gets the stars so they could trick the Chechens he's the bosses son.
@@user-vg9cm3yv7eПеребор💯. В реальности он должен был убить его за это, иначе попал бы в низшую касту. Очень сильное непростительное оскорбление.
One of my favorite movies. Stars on the knees. No one but God.
Ako sa volá tento film?
one of the best movie scenes ever!
Calm down
Movie name?
At 2:33 subtitles say: "Now i live in the zone all the time" which is not a correct translation. "Na zone" means "in prison". "Zona" is a russian slang term for prison and it has nothing to do with psychological term "zone". "Zona" literally means "area".
Always thought it was a reference to "na zona" in Strugatsky’s Roadside Picnic x)
Thanks for explaining
So he's been knighted. Arise sir lancelot.
Im Polish. Polish and Russian is in some ways similar to each other - like „Good Evening” - „Dobry wieczór”. Sounds exactly like it and it makes me smile, because I feel like they’re speaking my language, I know its stupid, but i like it.
Every slavic language is related to each other. Im from Serbia, and we say ,,dobro vece"
da, kogda-to y nas bil odin yazik. Да, когда то у нас с вами был один язык.
Hello, Slavic Brother!
We love you, Poles are good people! F**k politics, we all are the same! No hate and no ruso/polonophobia, it's sick ideology and it ruins relationship between our nations!
Jebać kurw politycznych!!!
Если не дай Бог будет война, я никогда в жизни не выстрелю в поляка/украинца/чеха/болгара/хорвата! Лучше дезертирую или пойду под суд, но в славян стрелять не буду! Это ПРЕСТУПЛЕНИЕ, и не только военное преступление, а преступление перед здравым смыслом и перед нашими ОБЩИМИ предками, которые когда-то очень давно жили все вместе, дружили и женились вместе...
Jeśli nie daj Boże będzie wojna, nigdy w życiu nie zastrzelę Polaka / Ukraińca / Czecha / Bułgara / Chorwata! Lepiej ucieknę albo pójdę do sądu, ale do Słowian nie będę strzelał! To ZBRODNIA i to nie tylko zbrodnia wojenna, ale zbrodnia przeciwko zdrowemu rozsądkowi i przeciwko naszym WSPÓLNYM przodkom, którzy kiedyś żyli wszyscy razem bardzo długo, byli przyjaciółmi i pobrali się razem...
His a brilliant actor ...Love this movie , very realistic to russian underworld .......👍
Это вообще не похоже на воровскую сходку 😂
stars on their shoulders or knees impale people who adhere to criminal concepts. but this is not an indicator of a "thief in law". this guy would have had them already. with respect. from Russia
Imply, not impale..
if you are a non-Russian who wants to watch a realistic Russian crime drama - watch Бумер (2003)
there're no, like, big bosses - mostly the life of a "soldiers" on the ground, but the atmosphere, the language, wild and poor post-soviet Russia landscapes - authentic. the official version can be found on youtube, with eng subs (very simplified, but still) - cannot add the link, youtube filters it
I've watched Bimmer 1 and 2, do you have any other Russian gangster movies recommendatiom?
@@tristan-y2k i cannot think of any purely gangster movies, but if you are interested, there's one that is partially and is a very good movie:
Как Витька Чеснок Вёз Лёху Штыря в Дом Инвалидов (2017)
It has mafia as part of the plot, especially towards the end, and some criminals portrayed psychologically very well, one scene is so real you feel scared - you'll know which one if you watch it.
It is available on youtube, unfortunately w/o subtitles, but subtitles can be found online. It should be possible to use them with help of some Chrome extension.
@@tristan-y2kBrother,Brother 2 , Criminal Peterburg,Brigada and others
Gawd he really loves him like the son he wish he had. Such a proud papa.
@manditheos have you seen the movie? He does this to get rid of his gay son.
The ceremony is calling "coronation". Authoritative gangsters confirms Thief-status of Viggo's character. Now he equal to them. And insulting parents was overdoing. Viggo could kill him with impunity for that words
in reality this would never happen.
Not his father. The Vory have a strict code never to cooperate with the state, so Nikolai would be expected to cut ties with his "bitch" father.
@@timovangalen1589 by vory's laws insulting a mother is worst thing you could to do, whoever she is. That is what I am talking about
He can't kill Vor v zakone, without Sxodka. Other wise he can be killed himself. Read up.
@@sette8141 You still CAN NOT KILL Vora (especially since he is not "Coronovan" yet and without SXODKA)
Really good movies tbh
These guys seem nice- could do with some new buddies. How do I join?
You have to do some time in the prison first
The GULAG
Go to terrible prison in Siberia like the black dolphin...
You can’t
You’re black
You would have to be (preferably SIROTA - orphan), start stealing at early age( younger is better), get caught, do time, progress. Live "right way", no wife , kids, property of any sort (Vor's house is prison). Vor's family is Bratva. NEVER EVER WORK OR SERVE. % of your crimes "zasilit v obschak" . NEVER COOPERATE WITH GOVERNMENT.
I've always been fascinated with. This world and I took the ancestry DNA test and I am six percent Russian
Name of the movie ?
2:36-"Well, I don't see going on with anymore questions...you got the job, welcome to the Chick-fil-A team.
So nice!!
When you can't love your own mother, your own father, why would they be able to trust you
Криминальная Россия!
И нататуировали ему после этого дятла, назвали дятел Гиви.
дятлом они испортили всю остальную картину
Eastern Promises
Movie name ?
The lord of the rings
To nie vor ,to spekulant,
Ни разу в моей памяти иностранцы не могут достойно русских сыграть, будь то то военные , будь то мафия, то лампасы на штаны у генералов на пол ноги то погоны вкривь, то у бандитов разговоры как у русских подростков, ой не могу, может для иностранцев и восторг, но для русского это смотришь и думаешь как и почему "голливуд" и что не могут слова выучить, возьми наших так почему то английйский еще лучше в фильмах чем у самих англичан, а эти что в 80-х что сейчас только 2 слова сука да бля..ь и то выговорить не могут, ребята ребята и при всем уважении к экономике этих стран и только , поэтому ребятки по духу до русских вам ой как далеко, делайте лучше что умеете, а именно кушайте гамбургеры, а так что для русского good , то для вас пиз...ц
ОЙ НЕ МОГУ!
Vigo's russian is very very cool
Song?
Slavery and suffering - Red Army Choir
ой не могу, досмотрел еще пару минут и дописать не выдержал, а усы усы! актеру надо было до пупа нахерячить, чего уж там! 🤣🤣🤣 да а чего они не на медведях сидят верхом!🤣 , ну вы даете, понятно что такую х..ю всерьез не воспринимают , но вы хоть бы изобразили серьезно подготовили посмотрели как люди разговаривают, ну короче поржал🤣 как говорят а где таких русски то нашли🤣
The comment about his father and mother...fucking hardcore if u want those stars
This is BS. Even if she was a prostitute it's a big no no among russian gangstets to insult mother.
The man really pulls this off, incredible hes a deep cover british operative in the end.
Way to spoil it for others, you douche.
@@newthrash1221 Go 🖕yourself.
He’s actually a deep cover FSB agent
@@timovangalen1589 fr?
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Travesty that this wasn't a trilogy
powerful
Bohater tego filmu nie mógł być vorem,jeżeli cokolwiek sprzedawał w życiu, czyli baryga,żaden spekulant albo handlarz nie może być vpr v zakonie
vecher dobr XD hahah
I dont speak Russian but isnt that the wrong order of words? does it make any sense to say it like that instead of Dobry Vecher?
@@4Bushido Correct. "good evening"
@@4Bushido Both are possible. So yes, it makes sense.
некогда про мать такого не кто не скажет, бред собачий!!!!
Перебор💯. В реальности он должен был убить его за это, иначе попал бы в низшую касту. Очень сильное непростительное оскорбление.
Film name?
Jorj eastern promises set in London. It does pop on and off on Netflix
Eastern promises
Тайна русского народа.
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This shit is so fucking far from reality that it makes me laugh my ass off )))
Roof Agaev ok boomer
Which parts are far from reality...I'm from the U.S. so it all seems pretty crazy.
@@jamesphillips5868 insulting his mother? Real "vor" would kill them right there
There are 600 of them in the world and 395 is from georgia (i am georgian too) here in georgia you cant talk about someones mother like that or you will regret it i know in america there are "mom jokes" but in georgia you will do that and you are dead man
@@jamesphillips5868 Insulting his mother is far from reality.
Акцент режет слух х)
По моему, акцент -- это то, что меньше всего вызывает улыбку.
So, Seymon is just a subordinate.
It’s so freaking believable the biggest crap I ever see my life I can do this bullshit man so disrespectful?!!
I wonder in this scene if the other heads who attended the initiation knew Viggos’s character was getting the stars, only as a ply to be set up to be killed by the chechens
Aragorn
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To nie prawda, żaden wor w zakonie nie mógł zajmować się osobiście żadnym handlem, nawet kradzionych rzeczy nie mógł tego robić osobiście, jako zlodziej w zakonie,druga rzecz że nie mógł posiadać własnego majatku jak również żony czy dzieci, natomiast gdzie kolwiek by się udał do znajomych wszędzie musiałbym szczodrze ugoszczony i mile widziany. Vor kradnie, handluje baryga,baryga nie może być vorem
2:48 song name?
So how's his Russian accent?
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what movie is this?
Eastern promises
From that movie is this?
Eastern Promises
@@borarider669 thanks
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What nonsense, it's a shame! There is nothing in common with the thieves' world
damn bruh
Anybody who has any idea of how things done in that life knows how ridiculous this whole portrayal of it is
(It's a film)
@@FoxyUKyes, but they put so much effort into it, that some people might think it is more realistic than the regular portrayal of the Russian mafia in the Western movies, whereas it is not
1:23
Well, which movie is that? I am quite interested in watching it now.
Randomly managed to find its name, so for whomever it may concern. It's name is Eastern Promises
@@canary4361 ty
Eastern Promises
Feyr I like these indi movies which shoes the lifstyle without trying to be toooo hollywood esque about the whole thing. i live in weybridge Surrey and its funny how my area holds more Russian mobsters then anywehere else. A guy was found strangled in his bathroom and had links to organized crime less then a mile away from where I live. Never been solved happened two years ago was big news.
This scene is far from reality
How d you know?
@@julvadas there are more than 500 "vor" in the world and more than half are georgians and since i am georgian i know a alot about it
@@rozierg8184 elaborate
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what is cooperative mean in this scene ??
He didn’t go along with the guards’ orders or directions for him while he was in prison.
He was never cooperative with guards or any authorities while in prison. This is why he spent two years in the punishment block. Vory v zakone are never to cooperate with, nor accept parole or special favors from prison guards regardless of what hardships it may bring.
Tak?
For me, as a Russian speaker, this dialogue sometimes involuntarily causes a smile because it is a bit silly. 😁
Wtf are those subtitles
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Which movie is this
Eastern Promises
What movie is this
Eastern Promises
okay guys ... I'll tell you this ... all that is shown here is sheer nonsense. and why is he naked?!?! this is generally nonsense. And the stars really prick on the shoulders or knees. it is done by people who adhere to thieves' concepts
Is naked because In the Russian Mod the tattoos are important, all his tattoos was made in prison and one of them tell all is history in the organization. Now the stars in the knees are correct, well in Russia but in the knees cuz never gonna down to the authority and authority is Police. A mod and gang tattoo you maybe say is the Hombreras un you shoulder , like a soldier . Hope like it man peace .
@@tank3dies3l The problem is - once he reached this stage where he is already being made, everybody pretty much knows who he is, what's he done and his reputation on the streets, so no need to investigate his tatoos at this stage. This is nonsense.
@@gio7796 ooooo ok bro thanks 🙏 i understand bad . But still for me is ok this scene .
@@gio7796 ooo ok , but the think about tattoos it’s like some real no , I say for Latinos or Gangmemers of Latinos have ink then show how he is . Thanxfor answer bro
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Lmao
Это гомерически смешно). Не брались-бы вы про русскую мафию снимать. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Что ты хочешь от иностранцев когда даже те фильмы про криминал что в россии снимают являются смешным и не правдоподобным бредом. Возьми ту же сценку с плевком из антикиллера или разговор саши белого в бригаде с вором итд. - сущий бред далёкий от реальности. Даже само понятие «вор в законе» придумано органами, в преступном мире их так не называют.
@@416raptor6 Фильмы Бригада, Бумер, Брат и другие, хоть и с долей художественного преувеличения, но все-таки соответствуют и духу своего времени и российским реалиям. А в данном случае сняли развесистую клюкву, которая отвечает только их собственному иррациональному страху перед Россией. Именно его тут и обсасывают. Отчего ещё забавнее). Европейцы с североамериканцами обсуждают степень достоверности придуманной ими русской реальности. 🤣🤣🤣
@@user-nb7wz3gd6i Речь идет о том как изображен воровской мир и их традиции а не то что российские фильмы более близки по духу российскому зрителю. Это само собой разумеется. Я про то что даже в фильмах снятых в россии это показано не так как это происходит в реально жизни, не просто преувеличенно а в корне не верно. Разница только в том что тебе более близки по духу фильмы с русскими актёрами снятые русскими режиссёрами. А так как российский кинематограф в принципе кроме россии никому не интересен то запад снимает свои фильмы на эту тему в стиле в котором легче воспринимать западному зрителю. А про страх перед россией - не смеши.
@@416raptor6 Судя по тому, как ты по- хамски перешёл на ты, значит сказанное мной тебя задело, а стало быть я все по делу сказала). Кстати у нас в России принято с незнакомыми людьми разговаривать на вы.. И особенно те, кто сидел, о вежливости очень хорошо знают, иначе просто не выживешь. Так что хорош тут из себя знатока криминальной этики строить, не проканает. Теперь о российском кино. Разумеется его снимают для российской аудитории и как-то всем пофиг - заходит оно кому-то ещё или нет. И, конечно, как я уже говорила, бывают и художественные преувеличения и неточности. Но хорошее русское кино про криминал смотреть не стыдно. А вот этот западный шлак - просто испанский стыд. Как и твое невнятное бормотанье. А по поводу иррационального страха, это не мои догадки - это 90% образов русских, представленных в американском и западноевропейском кино Образы коварных и всемогущих русских отморозков именно оттуда.
@@user-nb7wz3gd6i что у вас в россии принято меня мало волнует так как я не живу на этой мусорке, для меня «вы» это когда вас много либо я тебя уважаю. Твое российское кино тебе не стыдно смотреть так как у тебя низкие стандарты как по отношению к кино так и к уровню жизни в целом. А вот по поводу образа русских в западных фильмах как отморозков это ты верно подметила, только это не значит что вас боятся а значит то что смотрят как на дикарей и на быдло и так оно и есть в большинстве случаев.
I don't understand why a life of crime would ever be viewed as something as honorable. Stealing, cheating, lying, murdering... all of this is for people who are unsophisticated. Thugs.
With so much money and "connections" why don't they go into a legitimate business? I'm sure they'd be successful. And there would not be any trouble with the law.
It seems stupid.
Ever heard of the term “honour among thieves” ?
Plus you’d be surprised at how often the people on the “right” side of the law, such as police / people who uphold the supposed justice system, partake in the unsophisticated behaviours you mentioned.
Namaste.
I am not justifying these "thugs" as you called them. But I might try to explain where this view of this as something as honorable, came from.
HISTORY: The thing is, Law and Authorities were many times compromised throughout Russian history. Russia was never a true land of human rights as it is understood in the western democracies and common people were usually a mere resource (that can be wasted largely if needed) for those in power (you can not even imagine how cruel historically Russia was to its people). Those who know Russian history can confirm that there were (comparatively to western countries) too much abuse and cruelty from Russia as a state to its own people. This created some sort of genetic hatred from the Russian population towards the Russian state authorities (not to confuse with Russia as motherland). And it's considered by Russian criminals as self-disrespect to work for/collaborate with authorities/police.
SUB-CULTURE: Another thing is is that the Ideology of "Vor v Zakone" ("thief in the Law") was created by NKVD to manage the millions of prisoners (during 1920s) from inside and by authoritative and respected prisoners themselves, but it eventually turned into an autonomous Russian criminal sub-culture with its own ideology and complex system of values (and their own unwritten code of honor "Ponyatiya") that denies any forms of official authorities upon themselves, but not only that is the essence of the code.
HUMAN NATURE: And the third thing is human nature. Truly genuine "Vor v zakone" is some sort of a uber-charismatic-Don-Corleone-like Godfather in terms of personal traits, meaning that no ordinary human being can become "Vor v zakone", it takes courage, ability to be just, morality (in their own understanding though) willpower, guts, intellect, and commitment to their code. They are some sort of criminal Daimyos of criminal samurais. But that's what it is believed to be, a fiction, in reality, most of these dudes are low-moral thugs.
RESUME: answering your question of why it is viewed as something as honorable, in my opinion, it is some sort of fusion of many "attractive" ideas: an Idea of manly man (but in the criminal world), an Idea of alfa-predator/alfa-male, an idea of honoring a code, an Idea of not serving the authorities (which abused their own people), an Idea of being strong and just to colect rspect of your own criminal community, etc, etc, etc, etc
The Russian government and "legal" authorities are just parts of the greater underworld, especially in the 80's and 90's. Right now, you're a Westerner projecting your view of the world onto a culture and complex society you'll never be able to truly understand, even if you dedicate your life to its study. There is no way of legally running a "legitimate" company in Russia or most Eastern European/former Soviet states without getting involved with the "thugs" as the "thugs" are the government and legal authorities. In summary, the only way for them to get into "legitimate business" is to do what they do. As in our region, it's the only real way to be successful.
@@dmitryyashin2469 Corporations are mafia anywhere
You wont get how big this is in Russia
Stupid movie
This is not even russian
It is
верно, это дешевая подделка под неповторимый оригинал)
well, what fkg movie is this???
Film name?
eastern promises
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@@dakargz7045 I can't find it on Amazon,is it available on that pls help
Movie name ?
Eastern promises