Please note that unwritten rules actually suck for the most part and we know that. Anyway, here's today's full episode: ua-cam.com/video/w_DYSD254GU/v-deo.html
I don't really understand baseball but maybe things that aggressive are in other sports I just feel like they have a higher consequence than in baseball. You are hitting someone with a 95mph ball on purpose and everyone knows it and it's just alright I feel that's immediate ejection from the game with how blatant I've seen it done in some videos but it's not nothing happens
@@modest1989 on the other hand people complain when a pitcher gets thrown out for accidentally hitting a batter. Then, if you were to say "oh accidents are exempt from automatic ejection", then pitchers can just throw an 85 mph changeup at the batter and pretend like it was an accident. Then you're just back at square 1. I agree with mostly everything else tho
@@modest1989 Its like getting in a fight in hockey, if there was no "legal" way to let off steam you'd see a lot more actual serious physical altercations.
to be fair, it's honestly not that hard to get out of the way. If you don't want the pain, then move.I you want the free walk, then stfu and stop complaining. In cricket it's literally a standard part of the game to get balls directed at the head and body on purpose. Someone even died within the last 5 years.
@@sketch3744 If I am calculating it right it takes about 0.5 to 1 second for the ball to hit the batter if the pitcher is aiming for them. You can not easily doge something like that. If it was that easy they would be hitting every single ball with their bats anyways?
If there's going to be all these customs that essentially boil down to 'if it's a blowout then everyone should stop trying so hard' then just implement a mercy rule.
Well and then what happens in a game where the Oakland A's recorded their 20 consecutive win in 2002 IIRC. Although they jumped out to a massive early lead it completely evaporated over the course of the game. What if Oakland had missed that record because they stopped trying? I don't believe in the mercy rule but that means "no mercy", run 'em over if you can.
@@WoWisdeadtome It could work if the losing team unanimously agrees to it or something along those lines--since a team can mount a comeback regardless of the score deficit, a comeback is always possible, so it would be up to the team getting stomped whether they want to keep trying or reserve their bullpen/morale.
@@natenatenate10 Yeah, but then that gives an option to save your bullpen for a game you're more likely to win allowing you extra rest over teams that kept their games close. I don't like it, better to just not have a mercy rule.
That's fine, but don't gripe at the guy who knocks him down the next at bat for it. If you did that to Bob Gibson, I would bet my paycheck that the guy was getting a bruise the next at bat for it.
@@crocidayle I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm saying that if you are going to determine which unwritten rule does or does not apply to you (the batter) then don't bitch when the other guy determines which unwritten rule does or doesn't apply to him(the pitcher). It's like when Drysdale was told to intentionally walk a guy when he didn't want to. He promptly hit the guy with the first pitch. "Why should I throw four pitches when one will do." (and I'll guarantee it wasn't a curve ball he threw)
As a kid, it always bothered me that so many basketball games would end with the losing team basically giving up towards the last minute cause my dad would tell me stories about these incredible comebacks in the last minute or so. Those stories kept me excited til the end of games for a while. But teams didn't try and it felt like a huge letdown to the sport for me. These aren't myths. Huge comebacks *can* happen. I could understand not taking risky plays during a blowout for fear of injury but that's a far cry from giving up.
Unwritten rule: don’t bunt when the pitcher has a no hitter. How about adding another unwritten rule where if the opposing batter has a streak, milestone, or record, the pitcher can’t throw outside the strike zone? Oh that sounds stupid? Exactly
If its close and part of your game i get it- bunt. But in most no hitters its not close. If ur team is losing bunting which is an easy way to make contact is almost like running from the at bat and the pitcher and pushing it onto the fielders. The most applicable rules for pitchers would be the unwritten rule to not avoid a batter who is aiming for a cycle or one of the other batting miles stones ( for example home runs in a game) its just the pitching one is so much more common relative to the batting ones most people can think of. So yes the rule u described is a unwritten rule for the most part and people would get pissed if someone was going for an in game batting record and the pitcher avoided him.
@fooloof The cycle is just an example a bettter example may be having avoiding a batter when they are about to break a single game hr run record or hit record etc. Now the two are signifigantly more rare. The problem with the bnting is while it does take skill it pushes the fate of the game off the pitcher and into the fielders hand. Thats kinda running away partcularly if ur not in a tight game its clear ur saying i can't get a hit so imma try to ruin ur streak by avoiding you. Now if its close i get it. Ur trying to win but if its not close it comes off as dickish.
@fooloof I agree with that simply because a bunt still has to end with you being safe at first! If there are runners on who were walked well then the decision is up to them throw them both out or pick the guy going to either 3rd or 2nd and the one going to first..if you tag the guy at first it's not strategic but the no hitter is still fair play.
Pitchers have way too much control. If they don’t like the batter, they can choose to just walk him, but sometimes they will intentionally hit them which walks them anyways. There so many unwritten rules against the batters yet none against the pitcher. If you hurt their feelings in any way, you will have a ball thrown at you the next at bat. Unintentionally of course………
@@noahdomingo1162 it's anything you'd consider a "fat" pitch. It might be a hanging breaking ball or middle away fast ball or a slider that never quite got off the plate -- whatever it is, it's a pitch that's way too easy to hit.
It’s more an unwritten rule for umps, but I’ve always been a fan of: If the catcher is hit by a foul tip or wild pitch, the ump throws the new ball back to the pitcher to give the catcher some time.
Catchers are known to do similar things to buy time for umpires. It's courteous, along with being plain common sense to maintain a good raport with the umpire.
@@jacobm3290 yeah you see this all the time. Or when a HBP or a wild pitch was not intended (because sometimes it certainly is) the catcher plays nice about it and makes sure the batter knows it was an accident and that he's alright. I mean, there's some self-preservation there too because the catcher doesn't want the retaliatory strike when he goes up to swing later.
Nobody gets hit by a foul tip. A foul tip is something that ends up in the catcher's mitt. I always walked the ball out to the pitcher when the catcher got smoked by a foul ball. A bad shoulder and a bad elbow on my throwing arm made my ability to make an accurate 60' throw almost impossible.
the fact that managers and coaches feel so comfortable openly enforcing most of these rules to the media shows how disconnected the MLB is with the fans and rest of the country
Honestly, I dont watch MLB. I started to get into it in my early 20s (30 now) but honestly all this stupid stuff removes all desire I have to watch the game. The horrible umpires, the unwritten rules, the fact that if a pitcher is a complete pussy and literally tries to hurt players on the other team (because the pitcher is a pussy) everyone just gives him a pass. I watch sports to have fun and watch an enjoyable game. This stuff makes it frustrating and therefore not fun.
@@mr.doctorcaptain1124 professional sports are the only place where people can openly commit crimes (various forms of assault to assault with a weapon) on camera with thousands of witnesses and there are no consequences. Intentionally hitting a player is assualt with a weapon.
>Mike Trout hits his 757th home run >Me catching the ball Random dude: “Dude, you gotta give that ball to my kid. It’s an unwritten rule” Me: “Lol no” 😂😂
Media backlash ensues... suddenly you realize HR number 757 isn't even a milestone ball so you throw it on Ebay only for it to sell the day AFTER someone catches number 763 lol
I see what you're saying, but usually for milestone balls like that, the team will send somebody to you in the crowd a few minutes later and ask for it back to be given to the player or placed in the Hall of Fame or wherever, so you may get your payday in like 5mins after catching said ball haha
@@RockyPalermo1 Yup. 29 age with 302. Getting 650 is still ~5 years at 45 HR per year and 5 more at 25 per year. Trout isn't special because he's amazing at 1 thing and will set the record for it, he's special because he's great at basically every part of the game. He's a slugger with good batting average and a good eye. He's a great base runner who will take extra bases, avoid getting doubled up, and won't get thrown out being overly aggressive. He's backed off on SB over the last few years, but is still tied for 351st all time with a 84% success rate which is good (the guy he's tied with was caught over 2.5 as often). He's a good defender in that he plays a premium position (CF) to a league average level, he's not hidden in the field or DHing.
They act like they're something special. Literally every single person that plays baseball can throw a baseball. Pitchers need to be brought back down to reality and they should ALL bat.
@@skullbroski that was the moment I decided I couldn't respect the sport anymore. If you get chewed out by your own team for playing well, something is deeply wrong.
Pitchers shouldn’t pitch if they are gonna get upset about non-existent rules just because they can’t pitch well enough to stop the other team from scoring.
@@antoncid5044 I played with a pitcher that kept a Jolly Rancher in their mouth. They'd step off the mound to lick their fingers, but never really wiped them.
no shit, man. i hate that garbage. one of my favorite sports moments of all time was the 2009 MLS Cup playoffs. Real Salt Lake needed to win and also need 3-4 other very unlikely results in other games to grab the last wild card slot. They were playing against their top rival Colorado Rapids, who were win and in. Their chances of making the playoffs were so small that nobody was even talking about the scenarios that would get them in. It was a "mathematically possible, but no way it will happen in reality" moment. Well, wouldn't you know it, they showed up at the stadium and played to win and did. By some crazy miracle, all the other scenarios happened, too, and they ended up shocking everybody by sneaking into the playoffs (eventually winning the MLS Cup final). Asked about it after the game, defender and all around badass Chris Wingert said, paraphrasing, 'we knew going in that there was basically zero chance that we'd make the playoffs, but we also knew that our biggest rival was in a win-and-in scenario so we decided we would do whatever it took to keep them from clinching a playoff spot in our stadium because fuck those guys'. the point is, even if you have almost no chance of winning a game, always play to spoil someone else's good game, because fuck those guys.
I don’t know I’m just saying if I was throwing a no hitter deep into a game and then some dude comes up n lays down a bunt and to break it up the next time his up at the plate I’d probably wanna bean him
The thing about a no-hitter A lot of things have to go right if the other teams up one in the eighth inning and their picture as a no-hitter going and if I lay down this bunt I think I Can beat the throw to first so I can get on base and have potential of getting brought in by my homey behind me so we can tie the game up that’s what baseball should be about trying to win the game this guys been embarrassing us for a 8 innings So I’m gonna try to get on base so we can win the game fuck the no-hitter
@@matthewruff2642 thats a close case but lets be honest most no hitters aren't close and most of teh bunts in no hitters aren't with guys on base. The issue is that you can avoid the pitcher by going for the higher contact play and push the game to the fielders which is kinda cowardly. If its to win sure but lets be honest thats not what its about.
They are not saying not to try. Your supposed to try to hit it. Just don't bunt for no reason to try to fuck with the accomplishment. Bunting pushes the play onto the fielders and is almost running from the pitcher. if its close try, but don't be that guy who bunts just to fuck with it.
Any unwritten rule saying “If you have a big lead...” is dumb because baseball is the ONE sport where everything can change quickly! It’s NOT TIMED so a team can score 10 runs in one inning! Make that lead as large as possible and don’t apologize!! Steal bases, swing 3-0, fuck the haters.
A year late to the party but hell yeah. If you can score or position your team to score, do it. When the opposing team sucks, that's their fault. I'm a Rockies fan, and even I agree. Don't go easy on us. We really don't deserve it.
I love how that first clip was 8-2 and they were mad he stole second base. A 6 run lead is not safe in ANY game. Especially in the 6th inning. There's a third of the game left to play!!
I think walking behind the catcher is just an old habit from little league so kids don't walk through pitching warm up. It happened to a kid I coached and I've always told them to go around ever since.
I’ve seen a catcher throw the ball back to the pitcher and break his thumb on the next batter’s helmet because he wasn’t thinking the batter was going to walk in front of him. So there’s plenty of good reasons to do that one.
Yeah, when I played as a kid, the umpires actually told us to always walk behind the catcher so that we don’t accidentally get hit by a practice pitch or throw back to the pitcher.
The only unwritten rules that I could get on board with is a no hitter and being up a ton of runs...not one or two...then you swing away and not try to bunt. But if a guy bunts...oh well.
@@default0467 exactly, all I am saying is that if there was an unwritten rule...that would be the only one that I could see any validation in. I will never understand these unwritten rules...it is ridiculous.
@@default0467 a few years ago when the tigers had Verlander and Scherzer...there was no unwritten rule about hammering the bullpen. Why didn't they make an unwritten rule about that? Don't smoke our relievers.
You can bunt whenever tf you want, it doesn’t matter if theres a no hitter. This is a competitive game and even stats should be contested, we dont care about the pitchers feelings.
All unwritten rules are bullshit at any level. Little leagues already have mercy rules. Anything above that need to just not suck so much. Nobody should be expected to basically throw the game because they have a big lead.
HR balls and foul balls are 100% fair game. But if a player is throwing a ball into the stands toward a kid and an adult jumps in and grabs it, now that’s messed up.
I'd do some "Mission Impossible" acrobatics involving ziplines, parachutes, a see-saw on a speeding ATV, and escaping on a jet pack strapped in upside down, to get the Albert Pujols 660 homerun ball! 😅😅😅
I’ll never forget I had a class in high school called “Money Ball: The Math Behind Sports” and we were playing Stratomatic and my team was the 2014 Minnesota Twins and Trevor Plouffe carried our team into the World Series
Dan Uggla’s 30 game hit streak was snapped by a great play by the Barney 2B guy on the Cubs (forgot his name). As a Braves fan, that’s totally fair game. Freddie Freeman also had a hit streak that was broken up when he went 0-1 in a game that he pinch hit for. That’s how it goes.
Football: Don’t go for it on 4th down, throw deep balls, run trick plays or blitz in a blowout game. Don’t draw penalties on a short punt to burn time. Bill Belicheck: Buckle up junior.
@@jefferyhaag1 This is actually a written rule now, and I think that's the right call. The defense takes a penalty if they hit a player who was giving himself up (as they should), and it's not fair to give them a sign that they need to pull up only to use it against them immediately. If you can fake that play you invite the defense to try and nail the QB every time.
They get paid too much for "unwritten rules" to make their lives easier. Play every inning like you're down by 1 in the bottom of the 9th. IT'S A COMPETITION...?
But you look like an ass when your doing that up 20. All of these unwritten rules literally boil down to the same old things "do unto others what you'd like to be done to you" and "how you'd be in their situation" honestly if I was down 20 half way through a game I'd like to just get through the bullshit and have it over with. If I'm up 20, just dont take unnecessary risk. Dont try to take out the second baseman to break up a double play, shit like that. It's just simple. Edit: yes, it's a competition, but it just ain't fun watching you curb stomp the opponent when they're clearly beat.
@Colin Deal It's not about 'hurt feelings', it's about respect...mutual respect between winners and losers because they are both playing the same game, and, someday their roles may be reversed... or, 'what goes around, comes around'...
@@IIDEADBIRDII Here is what I think, if the opposing team is trying to win I am going to continue trying to win, it doesn't matter if I am up by 20 or not
@@radioactive9861 Goes around comes around? It's a fucking game not a literal beat down and they are pros not little league. It makes the sport look soft. Would I be upset that my opponent is trying to score when they are up by lot? No! cuz not everyone is that soft and i would do the same if the situation was reversed. A loss is a loss that doesn't change if its by 1 or by 20 you still loss. Stat padding looks bad that's how they are paid. I don't get there isn't another sport with so many "unwritten rules". If they actually matter then make them real rules.
I think "don't step on them mound" and "don't walk in front of the catcher" might both be rooted in not messing up the field unnecessarily. The "don't bunt in a no-hitter" should only apply when you're getting smoked. As a SD fan, the famous one is Ben Davis breaking up Schilling...in a two run game. In a two run game a you're a bloop and a blast from a tie so bunts are good to go.
Colin Deal that’s not how baseball works, if you’re down 7 - 0 in the top of the 8th during a no hitter, you’re only bunting because you don’t want to go 0 for 5 in a game, which makes you a pussy
@@schweppley1614 When bunting some people think about the no-no, but I think about the score. Imo, no lead is safe. Baseball is unique due to the fact that it has no clock, it's dictated by the 27 outs a team has. You can come back from 7 runs at any point in a game, so I'd say go ahead and bunt whenever you feel like. Obviously swinging the first two times through the lineup isn't working, why keep the same strategy and make the pitcher's day easier?
@@BasedWindex You could argue that, and obviously you shouldnt just give up your at bats, but bunting when you’re down by alot in the 8th is a dick move, and you deserve to get thrown at
If you're only down by 1 or 2 runs in a no hitter bunt away. You can win or tie with one man on. Your team's defense needs to step up and play that bunt.
Honestly I don’t think there is anything wrong with ‘Running up the score’ what’s gonna happen, you’ll hurt the other team’s feelings, so what? It’s also pretty fun to watch absolute blowout games and it’s always smart to score as much as possible as they can technically always come back.
@Colin Deal Right. So when my football team is up 50 with one second left in the 4th quarter of a meaningless week 17 game heading into the playoffs, and the opposing team has no timeouts, and it's first down, your argument is that the play should be a hail Mary, rather than kneeling the ball.
@@captainphoenix baseball is completely different then football in this regard. In baseball your down 100 2 outs into the 9th, you can still score as many runs as you want. Because there is no time limit in baseball, no lead is insurmountable.
@@corysample3628 And then you have to play baseball the next day. If it's the final game of the season, and you've already secured home field throughout, and the next day is just going to be your travel day before you play a PLAYOFF game....why on earth wouldn't you mail it in in the final inning on that final day (where winning gets you nothing) instead of forcing your players to stay up until 2:00pm the next day on a travel day so your whole team is completely wiped out for a PLAYOFF game?
@@tspawn35 if someone bunts with two outs in the 9th and reaches base then it wasn't a no hitter. If 2/3 the way through the game the opposing team takes their foot off the gas in order to help the pitcher win a no hitter is it really deserved?
@@tspawn35 If your team isn't getting any hits, lay a bunt down. It can throw the pitcher off and get a rally going. if bunting isn't illegal, bunt away.
That's probably the uwritten rule I agree with the most. If someone tries to break up a no-hitter with a bunt late in the game (especially not in a close game) then either they are getting nailed or the next batter is getting nailed. Just don't be a dick. Play stupid games and win stupid prizes.
Nah these “unwritten rules” are what keep baseball light years behind other sports. You think the NFL teams takes the gas off when they're up 28-0? No, they keep going til it’s 58-7. If you don’t like it don’t get blown out
Most teams do take the gas off if it’s a legit blowout. Some teams like the pats don’t as much, but most do. It’s also smarter to play safe and not risk your stars getting hurt.
Yeah the nfl definitely let’s off the gas in certain ways. They usually run the ball more and they take starters out of the game. It could be 3rd and 9 and team is up 30 late in the 3rd qtr and they’ll run instead of the obvious passing situation.
Crazy entitled statement lol. Guy spends billions buying a team and is supposed to make tickets free (which is the only possibly way they could make tickets affordable for everyone.) I got no sympathy for owners but that is just a ridiculous idea lol
@@princejellyfish3945 They have to make money, and baseball players are expensive. You are not entitled to watch a baseball game. You didn't do anything to earn it.
I gotta say, Trev makes some solid arguments here. I’ve always been a lifelong advocate of some of these, but some really strong points here from a guy I have a ton of respect for.
@@hunkyhenry6092 Most defenses would be fine with that. If a guy like Rizzo or Stanton bunts for a single instead of actually taking a swing and potentially hitting one out that's a win for the pitcher.
@@6Snaus Exactly! The other thing that is overlooked with the shift is that it gets in the batter's head. It makes them super conscious of pulling the ball, that they over think their approach at the plate
It's situational to take that single when presented with it. Number of outs, the score, the inning and who's behind you in the line up matters. For righties (aka majority of hitters) there really isn't anything to be done besides learning to hit to right field (ie: DJ LeMehieu was putting on a clinic in 2020). There is no bunt option to a gap between 2B and 1B. If pitch you away, pound one to right. For lefties there is probably something to be said of being able to down the 3B line, especially if you have the wheels to get to 2B. It's something for the toolbox and to keep the LF honest in his depth. You've still gotta be able to hit one left of 2B to keep the defender away from 3B too. They'll look at what you do and adapt. Bunting is not easy, it's a talent and most players are horribly inefficient at it. There's no such thing as a free hit, you still need to get the ball in play there, and will fail well over half the time.
Keep in mind, the unwritten rule for the 3-0 count, was written during a time where the pitching strategies were completely different from today's game. Back in the day, starting pitchers threw well over 100 pitches a game, and there were no closers, let alone relief pitchers facing 1 batter for strategic purposes. The 3-0 unwritten rule doesn’t fit in today's game, where pitchers are well protected.
It still doesn't matter. You had substitutions back then. If the pitcher isn't getting the job done, pull him. If he's still your guy, then it's on him to get the outs without help.
they were also written during a time when winning and losing didn't mean anything, so who cares if these little rules affect who wins and who loses in a totally unfair way... now it means millions of dollars.
"We're playing to win by 40." - John Calipari Unwritten rules are only there to protect the egos of pitchers. This 3-0 crap is stupid. Let's just say it's the other way around; defense is up by 8 late in the game. If the count is 0-2 on the hitter, should the pitcher throw the hitter soft toss so his ego doesn't get hurt when he strikes out?? Of course not. So why do we care that a pitcher got butthurt because he gave up a grand slam? If you don't want to get taken to the woodshed, do something about it. And when the hell did fans start having unwritten rules? Not everyone gets to go to games every day. Some of us don't live near a major league ball park. I live 5 hours drive to the closest mlb park and I've only been to 2 games ever. If I catch a foul ball, best believe I'm not worried about someone's crying baby next to me, unless that baby is mine.
I never got paid 4 1/2 mil to play baseball when I was 10, so it's not a kid's game. It's not a kids game for a player and his family, for vendors and baseball stadium staff, for restaurants and local attractions.....enough with this weak false analogy.
Any rules that discourage competitive play in favour of “going easy” on a loosing team runs in total contrast to the spirit of competitive sport. In fact I think it’s worse than keeping the pressure on, it shows a lack of respect for your opponents.
So it was a smart move leaving Rob Grownkowski in to block a PAT when the Pats were up by 3 TD's with a second or two left in a meaningless week 17 game against the Bills going into the playoffs....and get injured on the play and miss most of the playoffs because of it?
@@CaiominTwin the thing is they have actual rules for this in little league... the majors it shouldn't matter, if you are getting railed its because the other team is better. its not a bunch of 13 year olds who get mad when they loose its a bunch of 23 year olds who are still mad when they loose.. but they should be mature enough to get over it, unlike hormonal teenagers who cant control their emotions
I grew up a huge baseball fan , these unwritten rules have turned me into a huge football and basketball fan. I think intentionally hitting a batter is the biggest punk move in all sports.
I think it depends, you have some batters that will try to crowd the fuck out of your plate and you need to move them back. If throwing inside doesn't sent that message it's time to tag them. Throwing at people because of hurt feelings however is totally fucking retarded
"Don't walk in front of catchers" is rooted in superstition from a very, VERY long time ago. It has something to do with not getting "too close" to home plate before actually scoring. Something like how hockey players won't even LOOK at the Stanley Cup until they've won it.
That’s the thing with these unwritten “rules”, they’re unwritten for a reason, and it’s because a lot of unwritten rules revolve around protecting egos, and you can’t justify making them actual rules, there is a problem with egos in baseball, and that rings especially true when it comes to pitching, under no circumstance as a pitcher should you EVER expect strikes to be handed to you, if you get into a 3-0 count it is on YOU to dig yourself out of your own grave, you better make a good pitch.....the entitlement with this “rule” in particular is a problem, and then tatis’ manager going against him is nearly reprehensible. Some unwritten rules serve a purpose but this one is stupid and unnecessary.
I agree with bunting on a no hit game. Infield should be ready for anything and if a runner gets on base from a bunt than I blame the infield more than the runners speed. It should not be an unwritten rule.
in regards to walking behind the catcher, i think you're right that it's just a learned behavior. you can't be 100% aware all the time, so avoiding walking between the plate and the mound was taught when you are a batter. that way you aren't in the middle of any plays from an aggressive baserunner and an infield that's not paying attention, for example. but even further back, i remember seeing kids get hit/almost hit from walking in front of the test pitches during Machine Pitch leagues. i think it's just keeping yourself safe, not disrupting anything, and yeah, somewhat not being a dick to the defense, but i think that's icing on the cake
Pete Rose used to talk about he was trying to pad his stats against the 3,4,5 starting pitchers of his opponents. Is that wrong? No! Play ball and eff the pitcher's feelings.
I don’t get that. As a batter that’s just a free on base. Sure it may hurt a little but nothing you can’t shake off. Just piss every pitcher off and get on base every game lol
@@justina5688 Yes because a rock hard baseball flying at you (sometimes at the head mind you, even if it isnt intentional) at 90-100 mph is something you can just "shake off". People can die because a pitcher got his feelings hurt. Not ok. Clearly intentional hits should be an immediate ejection.
Walking behind the catcher: you don't want to step in the batter's box before you're ready. As a lefty, stepping in the righty's batter box, you're in play and the pitcher can pitch. At least that's what I learned in Little Leagues.
I love how baseball has these things to respect your opponent and in the soccer World Cup the goal is to embarrass entire nations in front of the world
Baseball and soccer have 10 uniform players and 1 non-uniform player, but in soccer they DONT pamper the goalkeeper unlike the pitcher in baseball. The rules supporting goalkeepers are mostly safety and protection based and are not too egregious in their favor. Pitchers are just way too pampered in the mlb
I actually have specific criteria for recovered balls: -Home Run: Keep no matter what. Possibly trade for autograph, etc. -Foul Ball caught on the fly: Celebrate the catch, enjoy the moment. Home team: keep it; visiting team: give to kid. -Foul Ball on the bounce/scavenged: Fist pump and give to kid. Lands in the beer? Chug the beer and keep the ball. Chug replacement beer if camera is still around.
At the walking behind the catcher and ump. I think it has to do with going across you might cover home plate with dirt and the ump then has to clean the plate delaying the game even more.
I swear sometimes these guys are like "that's not an unwritten rule, its just an unspoken thing that everyone has to obey because of what everyone thinks about it" like....dude, that's what an unwritten rule is...right?
As for the “walking behind the catcher/ump on your way to the plate: This is something I remember being taught by coaches. One reason may be so that you’re not in the way if the ump or catcher are exchanging balls with the pitcher. Also, you typically spend a bit of time outside the box before stepping in to take a pitch, so it just seems awkward to walk through both boxes on your way to the plate. But I distinctly remember this is something we were taught to do.
@That Flippin Guy Depends on how you interpret the rule. The definition for interference in the Official Baseball Rules is "an act by a member of the team at bat which interferes with, obstructs, impedes, hinders or confuses any fielder attempting to make a play." You could say that yelling "I got it" as you are running by a fielder attempting to make a catch could be considered trying to confuse a fielder. I've never seen it called at the MLB level, but you could make a case for it.
I bunted during a no hitter. We were down 2, and we couldn't hit the pitcher at all. I needed to get on base, so I did what I had to. The other coach called me a chickenshit, but I got on base. We still lost and no one else got a hit, but I got into scoring position. That's all that mattered at the moment.
@Miles Robertson: But was it an MLB game . . . with fans (?) MLB is an entertainment business and players need to remember who's ultimately paying their salary. Most fans, even those of the potentially no-hit team, want to see a no-hitter in their lifetime . . . if it's deserved. Likewise, the fans of the no-hitting team . . . will usually applaud a 2-out-in-the-ninth-single by a pinch-hitter to breakup the no-hitter . . . if it's deserved.
@@danielmoore8695 Sorry, but you just ignored what I had to say. You don't have to agree with it, but if you don't even try to see where I'm coming from . . . you're wasting your time and mine.
@Colin Deal Sorry, but you just ignored what I had to say. You don't have to agree with it, but if you don't even try to see where I'm coming from . . . you're wasting your time and mine.
Baseball doesn't have a clock. In football or basketball I can see that it's not cool to run up the score when there's less than a minute to play, but in baseball a team can come from behind to score ten runs in the ninth inning. So I don't get the whining because a team that's up by ten hits a homer. Maybe they'll need it in the end.
The "it doesnt have a clock" is pretty much why these rules exist. In the nfl you can physically score only so many points same with basketball. But like you said, either team can put up 10 or more in an inning
@@PlatinumJug that doesn’t make sense though because baseball is a game where it actually isn’t over until it’s over. Whereas in basketball or other games with a clock, there’e no way to get 30 points in 30 secs so it might actually be over.
@@Bhaise thats what i mean. In basketball and football there's a way out for the losing team. In baseball, the defense has to actually try and the pitchers can't just slack, because then the losing team will just continue to give up runs with it never ending
@@PlatinumJug i see what you mean, but I think that’s a good thing that they actually have to try. A lot of these rules boil down to “if you’re winning by a lot, stop trying so hard and give the losing team a chance to catch up” it shouldn’t be the winning team’s responsibility to protect the feelings of the losing team. If they don’t like being blown out, it should be up to them to either play better or forfeit/put in a mercy rule. Personally, I feel like it’s almost dishonorable for the losing team to expect the winning team to take it easy on them - shameful, even.
I agree with Trev. If you put on the shift in the middle of a no-hitter, to gain a defensive advantage, then why the fuck can’t a hitter bunt over into no man’s land? Don’t like it? Don’t put on the shift. Don’t like the bunt? Don’t play so deep. ESPECIALLY in a close game. 2-0 in the 8th inning and a guy with speed is up at the plate and the infield is deep......I’m laying it down. It just seems that there is all of this bullshit pitcher bravado garbage that only benefits the pitcher. Again, if a hitter strikes out three times, should he be allowed to throw his bat at the pitcher? Just keeping him honest, right?
Kevin Harris I hear ya, but thing is is that no-hitters are very difficult, and the batters, for most part, play to hit the ball, not bunt. I just doesn’t sit right to go out there bunting when instead you try to get a hit off the guy. Maybe 2-0 is a different story, but at times when it’s like 5-0, I don’t see where that is “just trying to get on base”
@@dustinschrader6874 Baseball already gives a natural advantage to the pitcher. The best hitters ever can't even get a hit half the time, and you think the pitcher deserves extra help from the batter? Get outta here... You want credit for a no-hitter? Then earn it. And yes, if you have a fast guy who can reliably bunt for a single, that's a great way to start a comeback. Unless you plan to hit a cluster of home runs, you're going to need men on base.
j.oz I think the unwritten rule for this one refers more to the times when someone bunts during a no-hitter in a game that they’re clearly going to lose due to the pitchers dominance. When the bunt is done out of spite more than anything, then it just becomes disrespectful. Or just using cheap tricks to get on base so late in a no hitter, like in that one with Max Scherzer where the guy intentionally moved into a ball to get on base and break up Scherzer’s perfect game.
I actually think that any of the “don’t add insult to injury” rules shouldn’t be frowned upon. You never know who could make a comeback. I say pour it on and play 100%. Sure, I don’t want my team to think I’m that unconfident in them, but regardless of our lead, why should we slow down?
Exactly, having a lead isn't the same as winning the game, and crazier things have always happened. I'm not going to limit myself because the other team is behind.
yeah because it goes towards player safety. the point is to avoid collisions and possible injury. if a fielder has to start questioning who is calling for the ball and hesitates, then collides with another player who is coming in hard to catch the ball then that's is stupid.
The only one that needs to be made a “written” or “real rule” is ‘the runner cannot interfere verbally in order to give the fielder the impression his fellow fielder needs him to move out of the way to avoid injury.” That is cheating!
The exact number is 7. Modern day record for most runs in an inning by a single team is 17 though, so unless you're up 21-3 in the 9th you're historically not safe.
I was taught to walk behind catcher and ump out of respect for the ump not having to clean th plate as much as a kid, it just stuck. I was also taught go around the mound out of respect for the bullpen who had to clean up the mound after the game in high school and as a bullpen PO in high school I appreciated the least amount of mess possible for cleaning 😂
I think they mostly serve to keep the game respectful but then you have teams like the Rangers who try to apply it where it doesn't belong. I think everyone agrees 10+ runs in the last few innings are easier to justify, but a 7 run lead in the 8th for a team that has blown a 7-run lead before, who has an awful bullpen, and was on a 5-game losing streak, it's a real stretch to say they were doing it to be disrespectful. At that point, it's still a competition and it's still their job to secure that win.
I remember learning the rule for walking behind the batter's box to get to the on deck circle. The coach explained that the warm up circle is for the next player to enter the field of play. Crossing the chalked lines means you are in the field of play. The second reason is to reduce the chance of messing up the chalk lines by crossing them.
This one's the worst. Makes an even longer delay in a game not filled with as much action as other sports. They should either let em fight hockey style or penalize players who leave the dugout.
Yeah also the stage of the game. 6th or 7th inning the pitcher may not like it, but that’s baseball. 2 outs in the 9th, you’re going to catch a lot of heat.
I think the walking behind the catcher is like a holdover from little league when dads would tell you to go behind the ump to stay out of the way of the pitching machine lol
No strategic decision should be taken off the table because of a special situation. Bunt to break up a no-hitter? Heck yeah. I mean, if the leadoff batter in the top of the first bunts for the hit...they're breaking up a no-hitter and nobody whines over it.
The walk behind thing I think came from batters wanting to walk up to get a look while the pitchers is still throwing his 8 between innings pitches or whatever it is.
New unwritten rule: If you're hit by a pitch, you can take first base or you can take one whack at the pitcher with your bat, pick one. There should also be an "unwritten rule" that pitchers can't intentionally throw at batters. Oh, wait, that's an _actual written rule._
Please note that unwritten rules actually suck for the most part and we know that. Anyway, here's today's full episode: ua-cam.com/video/w_DYSD254GU/v-deo.html
Walking in front of the catcher would probably drag dirt onto home, meaning the ump might have to clean it... Maybe?
Go Redbirds
Maybe where the pitcher shouldn't step on the batters bat after putting the ball in play? i.e The Ramon Laureano and Adrian Sampson incident
One unwritten rule that I think is a new one against pitchers is dont throw at a guy's head in retaliation
One unwritten rule I think that actually makes sense is no bunting in a no hitter if it's the 5th inning or later.
My favorite unwritten rule is that if a pitcher gets his feelings hurt he can throw things at people.
I don't really understand baseball but maybe things that aggressive are in other sports I just feel like they have a higher consequence than in baseball. You are hitting someone with a 95mph ball on purpose and everyone knows it and it's just alright I feel that's immediate ejection from the game with how blatant I've seen it done in some videos but it's not nothing happens
@@modest1989 on the other hand people complain when a pitcher gets thrown out for accidentally hitting a batter. Then, if you were to say "oh accidents are exempt from automatic ejection", then pitchers can just throw an 85 mph changeup at the batter and pretend like it was an accident. Then you're just back at square 1. I agree with mostly everything else tho
@@modest1989 Its like getting in a fight in hockey, if there was no "legal" way to let off steam you'd see a lot more actual serious physical altercations.
to be fair, it's honestly not that hard to get out of the way. If you don't want the pain, then move.I you want the free walk, then stfu and stop complaining. In cricket it's literally a standard part of the game to get balls directed at the head and body on purpose. Someone even died within the last 5 years.
@@sketch3744 If I am calculating it right it takes about 0.5 to 1 second for the ball to hit the batter if the pitcher is aiming for them. You can not easily doge something like that. If it was that easy they would be hitting every single ball with their bats anyways?
If there's going to be all these customs that essentially boil down to 'if it's a blowout then everyone should stop trying so hard' then just implement a mercy rule.
Well and then what happens in a game where the Oakland A's recorded their 20 consecutive win in 2002 IIRC. Although they jumped out to a massive early lead it completely evaporated over the course of the game. What if Oakland had missed that record because they stopped trying? I don't believe in the mercy rule but that means "no mercy", run 'em over if you can.
@@WoWisdeadtome They can't implement a mercy rule without massive restructuring of incentives-based contracts.
@@WoWisdeadtome It could work if the losing team unanimously agrees to it or something along those lines--since a team can mount a comeback regardless of the score deficit, a comeback is always possible, so it would be up to the team getting stomped whether they want to keep trying or reserve their bullpen/morale.
@@natenatenate10 Yeah, but then that gives an option to save your bullpen for a game you're more likely to win allowing you extra rest over teams that kept their games close. I don't like it, better to just not have a mercy rule.
@Evil Ghandi if they're gonna act like 10 year olds then treat them like it
You get paid to hit dingers, so go out there and hit dingers.
Big AL
They call me big Al and I hit DINGERS
That's fine, but don't gripe at the guy who knocks him down the next at bat for it. If you did that to Bob Gibson, I would bet my paycheck that the guy was getting a bruise the next at bat for it.
@@jamesoliver6625 Thats stupid. Why hit me for doing my job, when you cant do yours
@@crocidayle I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm saying that if you are going to determine which unwritten rule does or does not apply to you (the batter) then don't bitch when the other guy determines which unwritten rule does or doesn't apply to him(the pitcher). It's like when Drysdale was told to intentionally walk a guy when he didn't want to. He promptly hit the guy with the first pitch. "Why should I throw four pitches when one will do." (and I'll guarantee it wasn't a curve ball he threw)
Here’s a fascinating concept: How about everyone just plays the game hard until the end, and we see what happens?
How dare you! *Greta meme face*
As a kid, it always bothered me that so many basketball games would end with the losing team basically giving up towards the last minute cause my dad would tell me stories about these incredible comebacks in the last minute or so.
Those stories kept me excited til the end of games for a while. But teams didn't try and it felt like a huge letdown to the sport for me.
These aren't myths. Huge comebacks *can* happen. I could understand not taking risky plays during a blowout for fear of injury but that's a far cry from giving up.
Maybe you're right, but I feel like baseball would become more sterile if not for the unwritten rules.
not bad
Everyone pops a viagra n plays their hardest
Unwritten rule: don’t bunt when the pitcher has a no hitter.
How about adding another unwritten rule where if the opposing batter has a streak, milestone, or record, the pitcher can’t throw outside the strike zone? Oh that sounds stupid? Exactly
I think it’s an unwritten rule that if a batter has a chance at hitting for the cycle/3+ home runs, you’re not supposed to walk him.
If its close and part of your game i get it- bunt. But in most no hitters its not close. If ur team is losing bunting which is an easy way to make contact is almost like running from the at bat and the pitcher and pushing it onto the fielders. The most applicable rules for pitchers would be the unwritten rule to not avoid a batter who is aiming for a cycle or one of the other batting miles stones ( for example home runs in a game) its just the pitching one is so much more common relative to the batting ones most people can think of. So yes the rule u described is a unwritten rule for the most part and people would get pissed if someone was going for an in game batting record and the pitcher avoided him.
@fooloof The cycle is just an example a bettter example may be having avoiding a batter when they are about to break a single game hr run record or hit record etc. Now the two are signifigantly more rare. The problem with the bnting is while it does take skill it pushes the fate of the game off the pitcher and into the fielders hand. Thats kinda running away partcularly if ur not in a tight game its clear ur saying i can't get a hit so imma try to ruin ur streak by avoiding you. Now if its close i get it. Ur trying to win but if its not close it comes off as dickish.
@fooloof I agree with that simply because a bunt still has to end with you being safe at first! If there are runners on who were walked well then the decision is up to them throw them both out or pick the guy going to either 3rd or 2nd and the one going to first..if you tag the guy at first it's not strategic but the no hitter is still fair play.
Pitchers have way too much control. If they don’t like the batter, they can choose to just walk him, but sometimes they will intentionally hit them which walks them anyways. There so many unwritten rules against the batters yet none against the pitcher. If you hurt their feelings in any way, you will have a ball thrown at you the next at bat. Unintentionally of course………
If you don’t want the batter to take you 450 on a 3-0 count don’t throw a meatball.
And don't get the bases loaded AND get a great hitter to 3-0.
dude i love this comment even though i have no idea what a meatball is, from context i'm guessing it's a slow pitch?
@@gsofficial It's just a bad pitch that is very easily hittable. Something like a botched slider or hanging curveball.
@@noahdomingo1162 it's anything you'd consider a "fat" pitch. It might be a hanging breaking ball or middle away fast ball or a slider that never quite got off the plate -- whatever it is, it's a pitch that's way too easy to hit.
"a meatball" 😂
It’s more an unwritten rule for umps, but I’ve always been a fan of: If the catcher is hit by a foul tip or wild pitch, the ump throws the new ball back to the pitcher to give the catcher some time.
Catchers are known to do similar things to buy time for umpires. It's courteous, along with being plain common sense to maintain a good raport with the umpire.
Yeah this is my favorite too, I like it when the other team does it as well; like the batter might even step out. Just being a good person lol
@@jacobm3290 yeah you see this all the time. Or when a HBP or a wild pitch was not intended (because sometimes it certainly is) the catcher plays nice about it and makes sure the batter knows it was an accident and that he's alright. I mean, there's some self-preservation there too because the catcher doesn't want the retaliatory strike when he goes up to swing later.
I feel like that’s just being nice.
Nobody gets hit by a foul tip. A foul tip is something that ends up in the catcher's mitt. I always walked the ball out to the pitcher when the catcher got smoked by a foul ball. A bad shoulder and a bad elbow on my throwing arm made my ability to make an accurate 60' throw almost impossible.
I've been to hundreds of games and never got a ball. There is no way im giving a kid my ball. He can wait 40 years to catch his own.
Deadly
totally.
Agreed. I've never even been to a pro sports game, or a concert 😥
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For real. Life isn't fair. The parents of the bratty kids should use it as a teaching moment to let them know we don't always get what we want.
the fact that managers and coaches feel so comfortable openly enforcing most of these rules to the media shows how disconnected the MLB is with the fans and rest of the country
Honestly, I dont watch MLB. I started to get into it in my early 20s (30 now) but honestly all this stupid stuff removes all desire I have to watch the game.
The horrible umpires, the unwritten rules, the fact that if a pitcher is a complete pussy and literally tries to hurt players on the other team (because the pitcher is a pussy) everyone just gives him a pass.
I watch sports to have fun and watch an enjoyable game. This stuff makes it frustrating and therefore not fun.
Hence why baseball is a dying sport that is being kept alive on a life preserver.
@@mr.doctorcaptain1124 professional sports are the only place where people can openly commit crimes (various forms of assault to assault with a weapon) on camera with thousands of witnesses and there are no consequences. Intentionally hitting a player is assualt with a weapon.
That’s why young people don’t watch often
@@imjashingyou3461 not to mention being told to hit someone by another
>Mike Trout hits his 757th home run
>Me catching the ball
Random dude: “Dude, you gotta give that ball to my kid. It’s an unwritten rule”
Me: “Lol no” 😂😂
763rd u mean? but yeah i get ur point
Media backlash ensues... suddenly you realize HR number 757 isn't even a milestone ball so you throw it on Ebay only for it to sell the day AFTER someone catches number 763 lol
I see what you're saying, but usually for milestone balls like that, the team will send somebody to you in the crowd a few minutes later and ask for it back to be given to the player or placed in the Hall of Fame or wherever, so you may get your payday in like 5mins after catching said ball haha
LOL y'all Trout won't hit more than 650
@@RockyPalermo1 Yup. 29 age with 302. Getting 650 is still ~5 years at 45 HR per year and 5 more at 25 per year.
Trout isn't special because he's amazing at 1 thing and will set the record for it, he's special because he's great at basically every part of the game. He's a slugger with good batting average and a good eye. He's a great base runner who will take extra bases, avoid getting doubled up, and won't get thrown out being overly aggressive. He's backed off on SB over the last few years, but is still tied for 351st all time with a 84% success rate which is good (the guy he's tied with was caught over 2.5 as often). He's a good defender in that he plays a premium position (CF) to a league average level, he's not hidden in the field or DHing.
New unwritten rule: if you're a base coach and you try to start shit, the whole dugout gets a free swing at you.
I agree
I'm here for it
Is that cuz of the Astros guy
This
im in favor of this
In conclusion: Pitchers are soft
Obviously, they don't score, like goalkeepers in football
Yup
They act like they're something special. Literally every single person that plays baseball can throw a baseball. Pitchers need to be brought back down to reality and they should ALL bat.
Especially when someone admires or pimps a homer like Derek Dietrich ; )
Stonebreakers imagine dietrich pimps one on madison bumgardner
Imagine an unwritten rule in the NFL where if you were blowing a team out you shouldn't sack the QB
Pretty soon they won't be able to sack the QB at all....
Great analogy. It's ridiculous
Or an unwritten rule in basketball where if a player is 1 rebound off a triple double, you have to let him grab the next rebound....
I think that's what caused the Myles Garrett Mason Rudolph incident lol
Frank Frazier no Rudolph was angry that Garrett stayed on top after the sack and was in his feelings about his loss
"I will fight anybody...online, not in real person..."
- Literally the Internet since 1994.
I would be a huge tatis fan if he went out and said "Im not sorry Im paid to hit homers I did my job and had fun doing it"
I was really hoping this would happen and the team would back him. It was such a bad look for baseball when he was told off for doing his job well
im still a huge tatis fan... hate playing against him but really enjoy watching him play. good young player with a TON of talent and heart
@@skullbroski that was the moment I decided I couldn't respect the sport anymore. If you get chewed out by your own team for playing well, something is deeply wrong.
and then just left
Pitchers shouldn’t pitch if they are gonna get upset about non-existent rules just because they can’t pitch well enough to stop the other team from scoring.
yeah especially when they have a 75 80% success rate. If you're hitting 300 you fail 70% of the time.
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This!!
@@bP-yr3po A .300 OBP is actually pretty bad.
@@puckerings probably meant BA
Pitchers openly cheat and when someone “disrespects” them they act so entitled.
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@@antoncid5044 I played with a pitcher that kept a Jolly Rancher in their mouth. They'd step off the mound to lick their fingers, but never really wiped them.
"Okay everyone! Their pitcher's got a no hitter going so we're gonna need the batters to stop trying!"
no shit, man. i hate that garbage. one of my favorite sports moments of all time was the 2009 MLS Cup playoffs. Real Salt Lake needed to win and also need 3-4 other very unlikely results in other games to grab the last wild card slot. They were playing against their top rival Colorado Rapids, who were win and in. Their chances of making the playoffs were so small that nobody was even talking about the scenarios that would get them in. It was a "mathematically possible, but no way it will happen in reality" moment. Well, wouldn't you know it, they showed up at the stadium and played to win and did. By some crazy miracle, all the other scenarios happened, too, and they ended up shocking everybody by sneaking into the playoffs (eventually winning the MLS Cup final). Asked about it after the game, defender and all around badass Chris Wingert said, paraphrasing, 'we knew going in that there was basically zero chance that we'd make the playoffs, but we also knew that our biggest rival was in a win-and-in scenario so we decided we would do whatever it took to keep them from clinching a playoff spot in our stadium because fuck those guys'.
the point is, even if you have almost no chance of winning a game, always play to spoil someone else's good game, because fuck those guys.
I don’t know I’m just saying if I was throwing a no hitter deep into a game and then some dude comes up n lays down a bunt and to break it up the next time his up at the plate I’d probably wanna bean him
The thing about a no-hitter A lot of things have to go right if the other teams up one in the eighth inning and their picture as a no-hitter going and if I lay down this bunt I think I Can beat the throw to first so I can get on base and have potential of getting brought in by my homey behind me so we can tie the game up that’s what baseball should be about trying to win the game this guys been embarrassing us for a 8 innings So I’m gonna try to get on base so we can win the game fuck the no-hitter
@@matthewruff2642 thats a close case but lets be honest most no hitters aren't close and most of teh bunts in no hitters aren't with guys on base. The issue is that you can avoid the pitcher by going for the higher contact play and push the game to the fielders which is kinda cowardly. If its to win sure but lets be honest thats not what its about.
They are not saying not to try. Your supposed to try to hit it. Just don't bunt for no reason to try to fuck with the accomplishment. Bunting pushes the play onto the fielders and is almost running from the pitcher. if its close try, but don't be that guy who bunts just to fuck with it.
Any unwritten rule saying “If you have a big lead...” is dumb because baseball is the ONE sport where everything can change quickly! It’s NOT TIMED so a team can score 10 runs in one inning! Make that lead as large as possible and don’t apologize!! Steal bases, swing 3-0, fuck the haters.
A year late to the party but hell yeah. If you can score or position your team to score, do it. When the opposing team sucks, that's their fault. I'm a Rockies fan, and even I agree. Don't go easy on us. We really don't deserve it.
@@nlong92 😂
I love how that first clip was 8-2 and they were mad he stole second base. A 6 run lead is not safe in ANY game. Especially in the 6th inning. There's a third of the game left to play!!
I think walking behind the catcher is just an old habit from little league so kids don't walk through pitching warm up. It happened to a kid I coached and I've always told them to go around ever since.
Yup totally.
I’ve seen a catcher throw the ball back to the pitcher and break his thumb on the next batter’s helmet because he wasn’t thinking the batter was going to walk in front of him. So there’s plenty of good reasons to do that one.
thats a good thought Joe. It's not about home plate it's about getting between the pitcher and the catcher
Yeah, when I played as a kid, the umpires actually told us to always walk behind the catcher so that we don’t accidentally get hit by a practice pitch or throw back to the pitcher.
yeah i’ve always learned to do that to not get in the way, and I’m just used to it now
I wonder if rickey henderson ever thought
"Man you know what i dont need this steal we are up plenty" lmao.
He stole a base when his team was up by a lot and got a bunch of hate for it actually
Brett Reed If I was him I wouldn’t care tbh. He’s one of the fastest if not the fastest baseball player. So he can steal if he wants
@@brettreed4774 and i bet he took it to heart and never let it happen again lmao
I remember Otis Nixon getting drilled for stealing a base during blowout. It started a brawl.
@@Tuning_Spork drill him and brawl it out then thats fine lol. But for his own team to get on him is ridiculous. To me at least.
Most of these “rules” exist because pitchers are babies lmao
The only unwritten rules that I could get on board with is a no hitter and being up a ton of runs...not one or two...then you swing away and not try to bunt. But if a guy bunts...oh well.
D C I mean why would you try to give up. Your job is to win, not let the pitcher beat you up without trying
@@default0467 exactly, all I am saying is that if there was an unwritten rule...that would be the only one that I could see any validation in.
I will never understand these unwritten rules...it is ridiculous.
@@default0467 a few years ago when the tigers had Verlander and Scherzer...there was no unwritten rule about hammering the bullpen. Why didn't they make an unwritten rule about that? Don't smoke our relievers.
@@dc1397 i love these comments i'm seeing so much slang i've never seen before lol, what's hammering the bullpen
You can bunt whenever tf you want, it doesn’t matter if theres a no hitter. This is a competitive game and even stats should be contested, we dont care about the pitchers feelings.
"Found a website with a buncha unwritten rules."
Well then it would appear they are written.
Holy shit if every "rule" written on the internet was followed it'd be a damn nightmare. 😳
Touché, salesman
maybe it was a video and they were only spoken
@@theevermind well they wrote them on the screen for the video so they are written now at the very least
All unwritten rules are bullshit at any level. Little leagues already have mercy rules. Anything above that need to just not suck so much. Nobody should be expected to basically throw the game because they have a big lead.
You catch albert puljols 660 homerun you gona hand it to a kid hell naw
im grabbing it and running like im rushing for a touchdown
@@ethanstorm1735 oh yeah
HR balls and foul balls are 100% fair game. But if a player is throwing a ball into the stands toward a kid and an adult jumps in and grabs it, now that’s messed up.
@@yarpyepiddy be faster kid
I'd do some "Mission Impossible" acrobatics involving ziplines, parachutes, a see-saw on a speeding ATV, and escaping on a jet pack strapped in upside down, to get the Albert Pujols 660 homerun ball! 😅😅😅
I’ll never forget I had a class in high school called “Money Ball: The Math Behind Sports” and we were playing Stratomatic and my team was the 2014 Minnesota Twins and Trevor Plouffe carried our team into the World Series
That’s a sick class wish I could take that. My bum ass high school has me taking “theory of knowledge”
@@christopherlee3747 on that IB grind. I see you
Christopher Lee lmfao IB
What the hell is this "IB" program you guys are taking about?
Dude screw ib
Unwritten rule: Don't intentionally walk a batter during a hitting streak.
Every team that played against Barry Bonds would disagree with that one
I meant a record streak like the Yankee Clipper.
@@goingballisticmotion5455 But the hitters today are sought for power. They aren't Pete Roses.
@@BTsMusicChannel Rose bunted to keep his streak alive. Dimaggio was stopped by a great fielding third baseman then went on for another 14 day streak.
Dan Uggla’s 30 game hit streak was snapped by a great play by the Barney 2B guy on the Cubs (forgot his name). As a Braves fan, that’s totally fair game. Freddie Freeman also had a hit streak that was broken up when he went 0-1 in a game that he pinch hit for. That’s how it goes.
9 months later and YT put this in my feed after the Twins-White Sox debacle.
What happened ?
Did they write down that there's no crying in baseball?
That's a good one
That hurt a pitcher's feelings and they had to remove it.
Football: Don’t go for it on 4th down, throw deep balls, run trick plays or blitz in a blowout game. Don’t draw penalties on a short punt to burn time.
Bill Belicheck: Buckle up junior.
Don’t run a fake kneel is a big one.
@@jefferyhaag1 This is actually a written rule now, and I think that's the right call. The defense takes a penalty if they hit a player who was giving himself up (as they should), and it's not fair to give them a sign that they need to pull up only to use it against them immediately. If you can fake that play you invite the defense to try and nail the QB every time.
I remember the Seahawks running a fake punt up big . the punter got popped hard injured and fumbled
They get paid too much for "unwritten rules" to make their lives easier. Play every inning like you're down by 1 in the bottom of the 9th. IT'S A COMPETITION...?
But you look like an ass when your doing that up 20. All of these unwritten rules literally boil down to the same old things "do unto others what you'd like to be done to you" and "how you'd be in their situation" honestly if I was down 20 half way through a game I'd like to just get through the bullshit and have it over with. If I'm up 20, just dont take unnecessary risk. Dont try to take out the second baseman to break up a double play, shit like that. It's just simple.
Edit: yes, it's a competition, but it just ain't fun watching you curb stomp the opponent when they're clearly beat.
@Colin Deal It's not about 'hurt feelings', it's about respect...mutual respect between winners and losers because they are both playing the same game, and, someday their roles may be reversed... or, 'what goes around, comes around'...
@@IIDEADBIRDII Here is what I think, if the opposing team is trying to win I am going to continue trying to win, it doesn't matter if I am up by 20 or not
The pitchers can wipe away the tears with their $100 bills. Batters have stat lines and feelings too.
@@radioactive9861 Goes around comes around? It's a fucking game not a literal beat down and they are pros not little league. It makes the sport look soft. Would I be upset that my opponent is trying to score when they are up by lot? No! cuz not everyone is that soft and i would do the same if the situation was reversed. A loss is a loss that doesn't change if its by 1 or by 20 you still loss. Stat padding looks bad that's how they are paid. I don't get there isn't another sport with so many "unwritten rules". If they actually matter then make them real rules.
I need a tatis jr jersey. It’s a new game!
I almost feel like that's a bit I've heard in a podcast
Definitely
Yeah and a joe Kelly Jersey too
Too bad they're so expensive for no good reason
@Fuzzy is giving one away
I think "don't step on them mound" and "don't walk in front of the catcher" might both be rooted in not messing up the field unnecessarily.
The "don't bunt in a no-hitter" should only apply when you're getting smoked. As a SD fan, the famous one is Ben Davis breaking up Schilling...in a two run game. In a two run game a you're a bloop and a blast from a tie so bunts are good to go.
Colin Deal that’s not how baseball works, if you’re down 7 - 0 in the top of the 8th during a no hitter, you’re only bunting because you don’t want to go 0 for 5 in a game, which makes you a pussy
@@schweppley1614 When bunting some people think about the no-no, but I think about the score. Imo, no lead is safe. Baseball is unique due to the fact that it has no clock, it's dictated by the 27 outs a team has. You can come back from 7 runs at any point in a game, so I'd say go ahead and bunt whenever you feel like. Obviously swinging the first two times through the lineup isn't working, why keep the same strategy and make the pitcher's day easier?
@@BasedWindex You could argue that, and obviously you shouldnt just give up your at bats, but bunting when you’re down by alot in the 8th is a dick move, and you deserve to get thrown at
If you're only down by 1 or 2 runs in a no hitter bunt away. You can win or tie with one man on. Your team's defense needs to step up and play that bunt.
@@schweppley1614 how many walks do you suppose that pitcher gave up in their quest for a no no with batters goin' 0-5 lmao
Honestly I don’t think there is anything wrong with ‘Running up the score’ what’s gonna happen, you’ll hurt the other team’s feelings, so what? It’s also pretty fun to watch absolute blowout games and it’s always smart to score as much as possible as they can technically always come back.
Cubs came back from an 8 run deficit in the 8th inning against the Braves. Game aint over until the last out is recorded. Run the score.
@Colin Deal Right. So when my football team is up 50 with one second left in the 4th quarter of a meaningless week 17 game heading into the playoffs, and the opposing team has no timeouts, and it's first down, your argument is that the play should be a hail Mary, rather than kneeling the ball.
@@captainphoenix baseball is completely different then football in this regard. In baseball your down 100 2 outs into the 9th, you can still score as many runs as you want. Because there is no time limit in baseball, no lead is insurmountable.
@@corysample3628 And then you have to play baseball the next day. If it's the final game of the season, and you've already secured home field throughout, and the next day is just going to be your travel day before you play a PLAYOFF game....why on earth wouldn't you mail it in in the final inning on that final day (where winning gets you nothing) instead of forcing your players to stay up until 2:00pm the next day on a travel day so your whole team is completely wiped out for a PLAYOFF game?
@@captainphoenix That's a _really_ specific circumstance you're going on about. This "rule" applies to every fucking game.
Re: no hitter/bunting - if you can only get a no hitter if nobody gets a bunt base hit you don't deserve it.
@@tspawn35 if someone bunts with two outs in the 9th and reaches base then it wasn't a no hitter. If 2/3 the way through the game the opposing team takes their foot off the gas in order to help the pitcher win a no hitter is it really deserved?
@@tspawn35 If your team isn't getting any hits, lay a bunt down. It can throw the pitcher off and get a rally going. if bunting isn't illegal, bunt away.
@@tspawn35 well now it's not unwritten because you just wrote it in the comments.
That's probably the uwritten rule I agree with the most. If someone tries to break up a no-hitter with a bunt late in the game (especially not in a close game) then either they are getting nailed or the next batter is getting nailed. Just don't be a dick. Play stupid games and win stupid prizes.
@@jraymond1988 the game is to win. In order to win you need to score. In order to that you have to get on base. What am I missing here?
George Brett: Uses a little to much pine tar
MLB: NO
Gerritt Cole: Fingers gut STUCK TO HAT
MLB: 🤷♂️
The best is that older pitcher from the movie Major league and the stuff he has all over his body
Everyone does it lmao if ur in the majors u have something on ur hat in ur glove or on ur pants lma
Uh........... MLB reversed that call & the game had to be replayed from that point. Royals ended up with the win instead of that being their last out.
Nah these “unwritten rules” are what keep baseball light years behind other sports. You think the NFL teams takes the gas off when they're up 28-0? No, they keep going til it’s 58-7. If you don’t like it don’t get blown out
Most teams do take the gas off if it’s a legit blowout. Some teams like the pats don’t as much, but most do. It’s also smarter to play safe and not risk your stars getting hurt.
Yeah the nfl definitely let’s off the gas in certain ways. They usually run the ball more and they take starters out of the game. It could be 3rd and 9 and team is up 30 late in the 3rd qtr and they’ll run instead of the obvious passing situation.
@@khure711 yeah I get that you guys but even y'all have to admit the Tatis situation is ridiculous
Just Another UA-camr completely ridiculous. They put themselves in that situation. You can’t expect the opposition to bail you out to save face.
Exactly! Ask the Falcons if you should relax when you’re up 28-3.
I propose this for an unwritten rule: it should always be easy and affordable to watch your home team play at home.
Crazy entitled statement lol. Guy spends billions buying a team and is supposed to make tickets free (which is the only possibly way they could make tickets affordable for everyone.) I got no sympathy for owners but that is just a ridiculous idea lol
@@mully107 No, you're right, it should be expensive and difficult. Great point.
@@mully107 fuck em lol
@@mully107 oh yeah a small soda and hot dog should cost 30 bucks too. Dont forget parking!
@@princejellyfish3945 They have to make money, and baseball players are expensive. You are not entitled to watch a baseball game. You didn't do anything to earn it.
I gotta say, Trev makes some solid arguments here. I’ve always been a lifelong advocate of some of these, but some really strong points here from a guy I have a ton of respect for.
More players should bunt during the shift
seriously, bunt everytime if they shift. Free hits for days... until they stop shifting on you.
@@hunkyhenry6092 Most defenses would be fine with that. If a guy like Rizzo or Stanton bunts for a single instead of actually taking a swing and potentially hitting one out that's a win for the pitcher.
@@6Snaus Exactly! The other thing that is overlooked with the shift is that it gets in the batter's head. It makes them super conscious of pulling the ball, that they over think their approach at the plate
Choking up and slapping a ball into a gap when there is a shift is ridiculously underrated.
It's situational to take that single when presented with it. Number of outs, the score, the inning and who's behind you in the line up matters.
For righties (aka majority of hitters) there really isn't anything to be done besides learning to hit to right field (ie: DJ LeMehieu was putting on a clinic in 2020). There is no bunt option to a gap between 2B and 1B. If pitch you away, pound one to right.
For lefties there is probably something to be said of being able to down the 3B line, especially if you have the wheels to get to 2B. It's something for the toolbox and to keep the LF honest in his depth. You've still gotta be able to hit one left of 2B to keep the defender away from 3B too. They'll look at what you do and adapt.
Bunting is not easy, it's a talent and most players are horribly inefficient at it. There's no such thing as a free hit, you still need to get the ball in play there, and will fail well over half the time.
“Because A-Rod did it, I hate it.”
A good rule to live by
@@theevermind facts!
This is why Arod was great, he messed with peoples heads so much they can't even think clearly after he does something, lmao
Keep in mind, the unwritten rule for the 3-0 count, was written during a time where the pitching strategies were completely different from today's game. Back in the day, starting pitchers threw well over 100 pitches a game, and there were no closers, let alone relief pitchers facing 1 batter for strategic purposes. The 3-0 unwritten rule doesn’t fit in today's game, where pitchers are well protected.
It still doesn't matter. You had substitutions back then. If the pitcher isn't getting the job done, pull him. If he's still your guy, then it's on him to get the outs without help.
they were also written during a time when winning and losing didn't mean anything, so who cares if these little rules affect who wins and who loses in a totally unfair way... now it means millions of dollars.
j.oz it matters u know the history behind the rule
@@mbdg6810 The history doesn't change anything. You play to win the game. The batter doesn't owe the pitcher a thing.
j.oz i know. Im not saying they do
"We're playing to win by 40." - John Calipari
Unwritten rules are only there to protect the egos of pitchers. This 3-0 crap is stupid. Let's just say it's the other way around; defense is up by 8 late in the game. If the count is 0-2 on the hitter, should the pitcher throw the hitter soft toss so his ego doesn't get hurt when he strikes out?? Of course not. So why do we care that a pitcher got butthurt because he gave up a grand slam? If you don't want to get taken to the woodshed, do something about it. And when the hell did fans start having unwritten rules? Not everyone gets to go to games every day. Some of us don't live near a major league ball park. I live 5 hours drive to the closest mlb park and I've only been to 2 games ever. If I catch a foul ball, best believe I'm not worried about someone's crying baby next to me, unless that baby is mine.
Baseball need to get their big boy pants on, this old generation of baseball geeks
These are over paid adults playing a kids game, getting their feelings hurt when someone does something they don't like. Shut up and play the game.
I never got paid 4 1/2 mil to play baseball when I was 10, so it's not a kid's game. It's not a kids game for a player and his family, for vendors and baseball stadium staff, for restaurants and local attractions.....enough with this weak false analogy.
Any rules that discourage competitive play in favour of “going easy” on a loosing team runs in total contrast to the spirit of competitive sport. In fact I think it’s worse than keeping the pressure on, it shows a lack of respect for your opponents.
So it was a smart move leaving Rob Grownkowski in to block a PAT when the Pats were up by 3 TD's with a second or two left in a meaningless week 17 game against the Bills going into the playoffs....and get injured on the play and miss most of the playoffs because of it?
for the most part unwritten rules are dumb.
Are here you are writing a rule. That also sucks
@@magacashmoney4751 you’re not even close, it’s an opinion on unwritten rules, how you even type what you did makes no sense
I feel a lot of unwritten rules are to stop kids feelings getting hurt and its stuck
Most of these are MLB level things that have existed since forever lmao, but sure
It's for grown men to not get their feelings hurt lmao
to me little league is def where you should be mindful of not running up the score or at least have slaughter rules
@@CaiominTwin the thing is they have actual rules for this in little league... the majors it shouldn't matter, if you are getting railed its because the other team is better. its not a bunch of 13 year olds who get mad when they loose its a bunch of 23 year olds who are still mad when they loose.. but they should be mature enough to get over it, unlike hormonal teenagers who cant control their emotions
I grew up a huge baseball fan , these unwritten rules have turned me into a huge football and basketball fan. I think intentionally hitting a batter is the biggest punk move in all sports.
I think it depends, you have some batters that will try to crowd the fuck out of your plate and you need to move them back.
If throwing inside doesn't sent that message it's time to tag them.
Throwing at people because of hurt feelings however is totally fucking retarded
That's kinda petty. Baseball is still awesome.
"Don't walk in front of catchers" is rooted in superstition from a very, VERY long time ago. It has something to do with not getting "too close" to home plate before actually scoring. Something like how hockey players won't even LOOK at the Stanley Cup until they've won it.
That’s the thing with these unwritten “rules”, they’re unwritten for a reason, and it’s because a lot of unwritten rules revolve around protecting egos, and you can’t justify making them actual rules, there is a problem with egos in baseball, and that rings especially true when it comes to pitching, under no circumstance as a pitcher should you EVER expect strikes to be handed to you, if you get into a 3-0 count it is on YOU to dig yourself out of your own grave, you better make a good pitch.....the entitlement with this “rule” in particular is a problem, and then tatis’ manager going against him is nearly reprehensible. Some unwritten rules serve a purpose but this one is stupid and unnecessary.
I like it when players bunt during a no hitter. shouldn't be complacent
Trevor has great insights and perspective on these.
I agree with bunting on a no hit game. Infield should be ready for anything and if a runner gets on base from a bunt than I blame the infield more than the runners speed. It should not be an unwritten rule.
in regards to walking behind the catcher, i think you're right that it's just a learned behavior. you can't be 100% aware all the time, so avoiding walking between the plate and the mound was taught when you are a batter. that way you aren't in the middle of any plays from an aggressive baserunner and an infield that's not paying attention, for example. but even further back, i remember seeing kids get hit/almost hit from walking in front of the test pitches during Machine Pitch leagues. i think it's just keeping yourself safe, not disrupting anything, and yeah, somewhat not being a dick to the defense, but i think that's icing on the cake
Pete Rose used to talk about he was trying to pad his stats against the 3,4,5 starting pitchers of his opponents. Is that wrong? No! Play ball and eff the pitcher's feelings.
Pete Rose is the most honest baseball story , these games are fixed , and also boring as hell.
I assume all of the rules favor pitchers because they're the ones that can enforce it by throwing at guys
here's an unwritten rule, every time a pitcher clearly throw at someone on purpose they are immediately arrested and charged with assault
Throwing at guys armed with clubs.
I don’t get that. As a batter that’s just a free on base. Sure it may hurt a little but nothing you can’t shake off. Just piss every pitcher off and get on base every game lol
a tell that to Stanton when he got decked by Fiers. Or to Acuña when his wrist got broken.
@@justina5688 Yes because a rock hard baseball flying at you (sometimes at the head mind you, even if it isnt intentional) at 90-100 mph is something you can just "shake off". People can die because a pitcher got his feelings hurt. Not ok. Clearly intentional hits should be an immediate ejection.
Swing whenever you want, run whenever you want, bunt whenever you want. No one should be worrying about any of that.
Walking behind the catcher: you don't want to step in the batter's box before you're ready. As a lefty, stepping in the righty's batter box, you're in play and the pitcher can pitch. At least that's what I learned in Little Leagues.
Yepp! that's exactly what i just wrote I thought nobody else knew haha
I love how baseball has these things to respect your opponent and in the soccer World Cup the goal is to embarrass entire nations in front of the world
Baseball and soccer have 10 uniform players and 1 non-uniform player, but in soccer they DONT pamper the goalkeeper unlike the pitcher in baseball. The rules supporting goalkeepers are mostly safety and protection based and are not too egregious in their favor. Pitchers are just way too pampered in the mlb
@28steps yeah definitely true if you are being blown out in soccer you aren't pissed at the other team you're generally more mad at yourself
I feel like not biting people is a rule it could use tho lmao
while embarrassing themselves at the same time by flopping/crying
Baseball doesn’t have any of these things. They’re called unwritten rules for a reason because they NOT real rules.
Don't walk slow while Bumgarner is yelling...
We have seen teams up by 7 (the amount the controversy is about) and still have lost to comebacks, shit we have seen the As get 9 runs in one inning
Red Sox have the modern day record for most runs in an inning at 17. So yeah unless you're up 21-3 in the 9th your lead is historically not safe.
I actually have specific criteria for recovered balls:
-Home Run: Keep no matter what. Possibly trade for autograph, etc.
-Foul Ball caught on the fly: Celebrate the catch, enjoy the moment. Home team: keep it; visiting team: give to kid.
-Foul Ball on the bounce/scavenged: Fist pump and give to kid.
Lands in the beer? Chug the beer and keep the ball. Chug replacement beer if camera is still around.
At the walking behind the catcher and ump. I think it has to do with going across you might cover home plate with dirt and the ump then has to clean the plate delaying the game even more.
I swear sometimes these guys are like "that's not an unwritten rule, its just an unspoken thing that everyone has to obey because of what everyone thinks about it" like....dude, that's what an unwritten rule is...right?
100% agree that you should be able to bunt against the shift and bunt during a no hitter.
Love that they have clips of Plouffe 'breaking the rules' in the background. S/O to the editor.
As for the “walking behind the catcher/ump on your way to the plate:
This is something I remember being taught by coaches. One reason may be so that you’re not in the way if the ump or catcher are exchanging balls with the pitcher. Also, you typically spend a bit of time outside the box before stepping in to take a pitch, so it just seems awkward to walk through both boxes on your way to the plate. But I distinctly remember this is something we were taught to do.
One minute "respect your teammates". Next minute "it's perfectly fine to haze and disrespect your rookie teammate"
The “don’t yell when opponent is fielding” is NOT an unwritten rule it is and ACTUAL rule and is verbal interference
Did it get written because of A-Rod doing it?
@That Flippin Guy Depends on how you interpret the rule. The definition for interference in the Official Baseball Rules is "an act by a member of the team at bat which interferes with, obstructs, impedes, hinders or confuses any fielder attempting to make a play."
You could say that yelling "I got it" as you are running by a fielder attempting to make a catch could be considered trying to confuse a fielder. I've never seen it called at the MLB level, but you could make a case for it.
I bunted during a no hitter. We were down 2, and we couldn't hit the pitcher at all. I needed to get on base, so I did what I had to. The other coach called me a chickenshit, but I got on base. We still lost and no one else got a hit, but I got into scoring position. That's all that mattered at the moment.
@Miles Robertson: But was it an MLB game . . . with fans (?) MLB is an entertainment business and players need to remember who's ultimately paying their salary. Most fans, even those of the potentially no-hit team, want to see a no-hitter in their lifetime . . . if it's deserved. Likewise, the fans of the no-hitting team . . . will usually applaud a 2-out-in-the-ninth-single by a pinch-hitter to breakup the no-hitter . . . if it's deserved.
@@QED_ If you bunt and get on base then you deserve to be credited with a base hit
@@danielmoore8695 Sorry, but you just ignored what I had to say. You don't have to agree with it, but if you don't even try to see where I'm coming from . . . you're wasting your time and mine.
@Colin Deal Sorry, but you just ignored what I had to say. You don't have to agree with it, but if you don't even try to see where I'm coming from . . . you're wasting your time and mine.
Baseball doesn't have a clock. In football or basketball I can see that it's not cool to run up the score when there's less than a minute to play, but in baseball a team can come from behind to score ten runs in the ninth inning. So I don't get the whining because a team that's up by ten hits a homer. Maybe they'll need it in the end.
Exactly winning team can stop trying to score when the losing team stops trying to score.
The "it doesnt have a clock" is pretty much why these rules exist. In the nfl you can physically score only so many points same with basketball. But like you said, either team can put up 10 or more in an inning
@@PlatinumJug that doesn’t make sense though because baseball is a game where it actually isn’t over until it’s over. Whereas in basketball or other games with a clock, there’e no way to get 30 points in 30 secs so it might actually be over.
@@Bhaise thats what i mean. In basketball and football there's a way out for the losing team. In baseball, the defense has to actually try and the pitchers can't just slack, because then the losing team will just continue to give up runs with it never ending
@@PlatinumJug i see what you mean, but I think that’s a good thing that they actually have to try. A lot of these rules boil down to “if you’re winning by a lot, stop trying so hard and give the losing team a chance to catch up”
it shouldn’t be the winning team’s responsibility to protect the feelings of the losing team. If they don’t like being blown out, it should be up to them to either play better or forfeit/put in a mercy rule.
Personally, I feel like it’s almost dishonorable for the losing team to expect the winning team to take it easy on them - shameful, even.
Playing as a kid, I always walked behind the plate as batter to just not get bonked by a pitcher warming up.
Baseball is the only sport where destroying the other team is frowned upon. It’s so sad
I agree with Trev. If you put on the shift in the middle of a no-hitter, to gain a defensive advantage, then why the fuck can’t a hitter bunt over into no man’s land? Don’t like it? Don’t put on the shift. Don’t like the bunt? Don’t play so deep.
ESPECIALLY in a close game. 2-0 in the 8th inning and a guy with speed is up at the plate and the infield is deep......I’m laying it down.
It just seems that there is all of this bullshit pitcher bravado garbage that only benefits the pitcher.
Again, if a hitter strikes out three times, should he be allowed to throw his bat at the pitcher? Just keeping him honest, right?
Kevin Harris I hear ya, but thing is is that no-hitters are very difficult, and the batters, for most part, play to hit the ball, not bunt. I just doesn’t sit right to go out there bunting when instead you try to get a hit off the guy. Maybe 2-0 is a different story, but at times when it’s like 5-0, I don’t see where that is “just trying to get on base”
@@dustinschrader6874 you never see 5-7 runs come back?
Đặng Trần Hoài why does that comeback need to start with a bunt
@@dustinschrader6874 Baseball already gives a natural advantage to the pitcher. The best hitters ever can't even get a hit half the time, and you think the pitcher deserves extra help from the batter? Get outta here...
You want credit for a no-hitter? Then earn it.
And yes, if you have a fast guy who can reliably bunt for a single, that's a great way to start a comeback. Unless you plan to hit a cluster of home runs, you're going to need men on base.
j.oz I think the unwritten rule for this one refers more to the times when someone bunts during a no-hitter in a game that they’re clearly going to lose due to the pitchers dominance. When the bunt is done out of spite more than anything, then it just becomes disrespectful. Or just using cheap tricks to get on base so late in a no hitter, like in that one with Max Scherzer where the guy intentionally moved into a ball to get on base and break up Scherzer’s perfect game.
Keep highlighting how some of these, "unwritten rules", compromise the competitive integrity of baseball.
Yea like the no bunting rule on a no hitter is dumb af. As a fan watching the game, I want none of that shit.
I actually think that any of the “don’t add insult to injury” rules shouldn’t be frowned upon. You never know who could make a comeback. I say pour it on and play 100%. Sure, I don’t want my team to think I’m that unconfident in them, but regardless of our lead, why should we slow down?
Exactly, having a lead isn't the same as winning the game, and crazier things have always happened. I'm not going to limit myself because the other team is behind.
Always kick them while they are down. The last thing you want is for them to get up and come back
The “A-Rod” one is an actual written rule
Yeah it's called "interference" and he was called out for it😂
yeah because it goes towards player safety. the point is to avoid collisions and possible injury. if a fielder has to start questioning who is calling for the ball and hesitates, then collides with another player who is coming in hard to catch the ball then that's is stupid.
The only one that needs to be made a “written” or “real rule” is ‘the runner cannot interfere verbally in order to give the fielder the impression his fellow fielder needs him to move out of the way to avoid injury.” That is cheating!
I disagree. That should totally be allowed.
What is the exact number of "big lead"? 5? 6? 7?
I've seen teams come back from 10 runs down in the 8th or 9th... screw that 'unwritten rule'.
It must be 12 because I've seen a lead of eleven get blown.
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Like I said it must be something bigger than 11
The exact number is 7. Modern day record for most runs in an inning by a single team is 17 though, so unless you're up 21-3 in the 9th you're historically not safe.
I was taught to walk behind catcher and ump out of respect for the ump not having to clean th plate as much as a kid, it just stuck. I was also taught go around the mound out of respect for the bullpen who had to clean up the mound after the game in high school and as a bullpen PO in high school I appreciated the least amount of mess possible for cleaning 😂
UA-cam recommended this after the Yermin Mercedes home run 👀
I am so ready for Talkin Baseball to be back. I mean back, back. Mid season, talking awards front runners back!
"the crowd still has a right to boo him" lol this is great. Somehow these discussions remind me of Dave Barry books I read when I was younger.
There are some unwritten rules that are good but most of them are really bad.
I think they mostly serve to keep the game respectful but then you have teams like the Rangers who try to apply it where it doesn't belong. I think everyone agrees 10+ runs in the last few innings are easier to justify, but a 7 run lead in the 8th for a team that has blown a 7-run lead before, who has an awful bullpen, and was on a 5-game losing streak, it's a real stretch to say they were doing it to be disrespectful. At that point, it's still a competition and it's still their job to secure that win.
Saying " I got it " as a base runner is just wrong.
Yeah that seems really bush
its a dick move, but it works
Fielders gotta be able to focus if they are a pro athlete. No bitching needed.
Fair play.
Hearing someone say I got it is always offputting. And in most sports is an actual rule.
Unwritten rule: Angel Hernandez should be a Looney Tunes character.
I remember learning the rule for walking behind the batter's box to get to the on deck circle. The coach explained that the warm up circle is for the next player to enter the field of play. Crossing the chalked lines means you are in the field of play. The second reason is to reduce the chance of messing up the chalk lines by crossing them.
“I’ll bunt... whenever... the fuck... I want.”
That’s t-shirt material right there, brotha
What about the unwritten rule of u must leave the dugout during a brawl
This one's the worst. Makes an even longer delay in a game not filled with as much action as other sports. They should either let em fight hockey style or penalize players who leave the dugout.
In the fight where Harper had his infamous helmet throw Madison Bumgardner didn’t run out of the dugout to to be in the brawl
@Julius, if you are ejected or on the disabled list, you aren't allowed on the field. No point in being suspended lol.
Seems like the “don’t bunt during a no-hitter” would depend on the game situation-a 1-0 or 2-0 game would be a legit time to bunt to get aboard...?
Yeah also the stage of the game. 6th or 7th inning the pitcher may not like it, but that’s baseball. 2 outs in the 9th, you’re going to catch a lot of heat.
"Dont steal with a big lead"
All Im saying is that if you were willing to steal before, in order to score. Then you should be willing to steal anytime
6:56 hitters version of the hidden ball trick. should be allowed. i'm all for it! that was funny as hell and entertaining to watch.
I think the walking behind the catcher is like a holdover from little league when dads would tell you to go behind the ump to stay out of the way of the pitching machine lol
Unwritten rule: don’t use my bat. That’s my bat
If the other team isn’t going to forfeit the game, why should they stop trying to score?
No strategic decision should be taken off the table because of a special situation. Bunt to break up a no-hitter? Heck yeah.
I mean, if the leadoff batter in the top of the first bunts for the hit...they're breaking up a no-hitter and nobody whines over it.
Surely you see the difference between a no hitter in the first and a no hitter in like the 7th, right? 😂
@@AD-df5tm Uh....yes. One is in the 1st, and the other is in the 7th. I'm sure there's a point you're trying to make, but I don't see it (:
The walk behind thing I think came from batters wanting to walk up to get a look while the pitchers is still throwing his 8 between innings pitches or whatever it is.
New unwritten rule: If you're hit by a pitch, you can take first base or you can take one whack at the pitcher with your bat, pick one.
There should also be an "unwritten rule" that pitchers can't intentionally throw at batters. Oh, wait, that's an _actual written rule._