Father Galloway believes in avlot of things that are not real. He ven said that the painting is floating in the Guadalupe image, which is completely fake, among other things. He believes without questioning anything.
Way too many errors in what Mary apparently said to these “seers”. Anytime you have a gathering of the faithful, of course the Holy Spirit is there and working. The seers and the city have made millions of dollars. I’m thankful we aren’t forced by the church to believe in Medjugorje. Remember, the devil can deceive the faithful.
Jade, I agree. I have 3 problems about the supposed messages from Medj: 1. Our Blessed Mother supposedly told the seers that the date of her Nativity is August 4, not September 8. For centuries, the Church has been celebrating Mary's Nativity on September 8. How come it's only now that the Blessed Mother is correcting this major "error"? 2. She was supposed to have told at least one seer that Our Lord Jesus considers all religions to be equal. 3. She was supposed to have told the seers that the most saintly person in the whole Bosnia-Herzogovina area was a Muslim woman. WTH - not even a Christian? For Catholics in the US who want to make a pilgrimage to Our Lady, the approved shrines of authentic apparitions closer to home than far-off Medjugorije are: Our Lady of Champion near Green Bay, Wisconsin and Our Lady of Guadalupe in Mexico City.
@@marietta1335She didn’t say all religions are equal. She told Vicka (I think) that “All religions are dear to God but some have more truth in them than others”.
Well according to a few priests the Vatican within the last few weeks officially recognized these apparitions as real. They are likely working on an official statement of release as we speak.
Why Catholics are looking for a special "mystical" places when we claim that the living God is in Holy Eucharist in every Church in the World? What else do we need? There is nothing more anywhere.
I went to medjugorje for the first time on the 21th August til 29th August and all i can say is thats its a feeling you cant describe! It feels like the thinnest vail between earth and heaven! Ill definitely be back again ❤
The Akita apparitions have been approved by the Church; by Pope Benedict XVI. But it's not as well publicized as Medj. In the US, the only approved apparition is Our Lady of Champion, near Green Bay, Wisconsin. But again, it's not as well publicized as Medj. Publicity makes a lot of difference.
I visited the convent of the Handmaid's of the Eucharist,@ Yuzawadai,Akita in 2010.I am so happy to hear that Sister passed away on the feast day of the Assumption of our Lady into heaven.She was 93 y.o.this holy saint suffered so much she since 1973.God bless
As a practicing Roman Catholic, I most certainly feel assured that the Blessed Mother is appearing there. But what I will also say is, after the way I have been treated by some "Catholics", and after the opinions that the Pope has publicly stated, I wouldn't trust a word that he would say with regard to this issue.
My sisters and I visited Medugorje last November and you can definitely feel a Holy presence in the area! I highly recommend everyone visit and experience for themselves the call of our Holy Mother to conversion to her Son.
@@petersiska7510 yes, butnot always, but as it should be because our faith is not based on the feelings. When I first came it was like the heaven is open and connected with the earth, I don't know how to explain that
@@petersiska7510 yes but in a different way. I do sense the Lord is with me when I read scripture and pray or at Mass especially during the consecration but it’s something completely different in Medugorje, it is supernatural. I strongly felt the presence of our Holy Mother too when my mother passed several years ago, I felt her telling me where we should bury her and my father. It was the most beautiful feeling I have ever felt!
@@robertkarl5753 It is not about feelings. IT is making me really worried that witchcraft is taking place in this place. It certainly makes visionaries rich and all those who make money from this place. They will not let this go. It is interesting during COVID-19 people disappeared, suddenly this "supernatural" apparitions did not feel special. Where was then the faith of people? Why they dropped from visiting?
This seems to be another vague conclusion from the DDF. In 1985, Vitska (sp) one of the original three girls to first report visions of Our Lady, is startled, blinks, and moves back from a reporter's (Jean Louis) per Prof Louis Berlanger) hand who pokes his finger toward the left side of her face. Whereas the girls at Garabendal while in ecstacy, could not be distracted in the least, people even tried to lift them up and could not even move them! Further, Vitska herself, after the incident, wanted to explain what happened. She states that right at that same exact moment, she thought the Blessed Mother was quote, "going to drop the baby Jesus" and so, she flinched back. First, do you really think the Blessed Mother delivering a message from heaven is all of a sudden going to drop the baby Jesus? Second, would you move back, or would you move forward to catch the baby (Jesus in this case)? And All of This is On Film-Watch it for yourself! "Its ridiculous" as Fr. Phillip, FSSP, tells this story himself on Sensus Fidelium... "that anyone would believe this." Additionally, if you think you can just call up (conjure) the Holy Spirit at will for messages, then these are not heavenly messages, "...then you are at a séance, its blasphemous!" Fr. Philip concludes, "People who believe these "messages" after this and other highly questionable events (discredited by even the local bishops!) are "being deceived because they want to be deceived." No, avoid Medjugorje, follow the fully papal approved visions and messages of Our Lady of Fatima and Akita, the last of which was approved by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (Pope Benedict XVI). Ave Maria.
@@RichPohlman I admit that I believe the faith of the visionaries and of those who have been drawn closer to Christ or to the priesthood or religious life, but I am not sure I believe that there is anything supernatural going on in this, or any apparitions. One would think the intention of the BVM was to draw attention to herself, rather than her Son. If people believe their lives are enriched by it, I can’t say anything is wrong with that. But I am glad that the Church doesn’t require belief in these, or any, visions, apparitions, etc. I note also that all major world religions have beliefs which are similar but not necessarily supernatural either.
From Ireland. Thank you for positive reporting and an analysis on Medj. In August 1985 I made a pilgrimage along with about 40 others. It was organised by a local newly formed Medj prayer group. We had 2 Priests as our spiritual guides. It was a most beautiful, joyful faith filled week of my life. Lots & lots of prayer & penance. The following year my 2 teenage daughters went with a youth group. My 14 yr old grandson went for Youth week 5 yrs ago. Thank God and his Holy for the graces and blessings which has come and will come to the World though Medjugorje. 🙏☘️
Fast food st. JPIi pet project to destroy the church after assisi all gods are one world religion of hallensgia satanists of V2 second french revolutiom
I’m confused, is it that the apparitions are still in question?they are still alleged? The approval is on the fruits of vocations & acts of faith in a town.
The official line on Medjugorje by the Catholic Church hasn’t changed. Basically, it leaves us in the same position that we were in before. The faithful who think that Medjugorje is supernatural can continue to think that, but they've been put on notice by the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith that not all the messages should just be regarded Heaven-sent. The Church specifically said that some of the messages are misleading, and there are some elements in them that you just need to not pay attention to.
@@marietta1335 I know. I am just surprised that the Vatican even bothered to come out with that report. It doesn't say anything new. I might be wrong but I have a feeling that it will never be approved. Have you ever been to Champion Wisconsin? I thought about going there someday.
@@charflorida5433 I also have the feeling Medj will never be approved, especially since the CDF has ruled that apparitions henceforth would be assessed only on whether the messages do not conflict with Church teachings (Nihil Obstat), no longer on whether it has supernatural origin or not. Yes, I've been to Champion, Wisconsin. It's a very peaceful place, much smaller and less grand than the shrines of Fatima, Lourdes or Guadalupe. But that's because it has been approved by the Vatican only in 2009. It's beautiful in its simplicity and the pilgrims I met were joyful and prayerful. The story of the 1859 apparitions in Champion is simple but heartwarming. Our Lady identified herself to Adele Brise as the "Queen of Heaven" and told her to gather the children in the woodsy Green Bay area and teach them catechism and how to pray. When Adele said she herself did not know enough about the faith, Blessed Mother Mary told her not to be afraid, for she would be with her. Adele went on foot door-to-door in all kinds of weather, inviting the children to come to her makeshift classroom. Often times, she had to do housework for a family just to let the kids come to her. It's a simple message for simple people, but the results were extraordinary. Great miracles happened, such as people fleeing to her school for safety during the great fire of Phestigo; starving families finding food at their doorsteps; a large, violent schismatic group of "Old Catholics" was driven from the area through intercession to Our Lady. Sick people were healed and there were many converts. The shrine was formerly called "Our Lady of Good Help," because that's the title of Mary popular among the Belgian immigrants of the area. But recently, the shrine was renamed "Our Lady of Champion" after the place of the apparitions, Champion township. I also read that the USCCB has formed a commission for the cause of beatification of Adele Brise. I went there with a group of relatives from Chicago. We went to Mass. The people in the shrine were joyful and prayerful, listening to the story of the apparitions from priests who were there to help and hear confessions. Of course, after the pilgrimage, we went over the the Green Bay baseball park and had some fun touring the site.
I don't understand this declaration. It talks about "fruits" but also speaks of errors. It's incoherent. "Necessary Clarifications"? "Misleading statements" can simply be ignored???? What kind of sound guidance is that????
@elmer528 exactly my thoughts. I find it ironic that Medjugorje mary said “all religions are created equal”. And now, that’s what Pope Francis *just* said!
The fruits are abundant, and vocations Our Lady Queen of Peace will triumph, people go there for years for many reasons and she gives each of us Her Motherly gifts
Bad fruits are many; just few facts/examples: 1) the local bishops have repeatedly condemned the seers as lying frauds; 2) seers spiritual directors were laicized creating further scandal; 3) wars/chaos in region: 4) exorcist reports of substantial demonic activities there, etc. Read E. Michael Jones’ book, “The Medjugorje Deception” to learn about other untold facts surrounding these so-called apparitions.
I have seen the same visions of Our Blessed Mother Mary in the sky in Northern Michigan that people have seen in Medjugorje. The sun was pulsating and there was only one cloud in the sky and the cloud was a Cross. I took a picture of the cross and after the picture developed was a visible Mother Mary praying to the cross. The date of the picture was taken on 8-8-08
One that knows the story of all major apparitions around the world and the demeanor of Our Lady in all of them, cannot but be a little stunned that the Mother of God has all of a sudden become such a "chatterbox"
Let's just ask ourselves that if our faith was tested today, would we be willing to give all like the mother and her sons in Maccabees or are we only believers when everything is pleasant?
I actually would like to override that for the church- for the people, her whole entire point is that we do not have to go through a man, She is our Heart
Could you not interrupt Dr. Dodd when she was explaining the 6 areas that the DDF made in regards to some of the more problematic issues of Medjugore. She was stopped after 3 by the interviewer. This interviewer should learn to give time to people she is interviewing and ask appropriate questions, because otherwise she is just going for quick soundbites. EWTN should avoid being a Catholic CNN, but allow for more in depth analysis of events. Very weak interview.
@@truelight8550 it’s more likely something which occurred in the hearts of the visionaries themselves, as they remain close to Our Lady and appear to be spiritually following the Catholic faith tradition, but it cannot be proven to be genuinely caused by God.
Official approval is not necessary. The Church cannot officially condemn the apparitions if there is nothing contrary to church teachings and the Gospels in the messages from the apparitions. A Bishop's opinion can change with time and with new information.
I am a fruit of Medjugorje! I had lost my Medjugorje Medal, aprox 2-3 months ago-I felt certain I lost it at church-I looked everywhere, including the hynmal boxes in pew where we sit & surrounding area-my friends searched & nothing. I felt in my heart, it would return to me, patience is a virtue-aprox 3 days, I started to pray to St Anthony-today, I found my Medal-in the hymnal box, I had already searched numerous times. It was placed right there in the open to be seen. It was an emotional reunion-and the circumstance that led up to me finding it, was of supernatural occurrence. Jesus Christ & our Blessed Mother were involved in what transpired, from the momentmy medal was lost, and when I found it, & everything in between-the Holy Family really walks among us-we truly are Their Temples-with that said, prepare yourselves-repent, repent, repent, & pray, pray, & pray some more! Jesus is coming, & we’re going to be witnessing the Gospels play out, before our very eyes! 🙏🏼😇🙏🏼💕
THIS QUITE UPSETTING! THERE ARE MANY, MANY STRANGE AND UNIDRNTIFYING MESSAGES FROM THIS APPARITION! I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IT IS THE BLESSED VIRGIN MARY! I AM SO SAD AND CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. I PRAY OUR LORD WILL SEND OUR LADY TO EXPOSE THIS LIE.
Infested with demonic activity and ravaged by chaos, wars, sex traffic and money laundering. Just some of the bad fruits. Medju is a massive fraud and this news is scandalous!
The messages say nothing special, anybody can make it. Apparitions play in people’s believe in magic. Somebody sees something hidden yet nobody else see anything, plays into wild imagination of old pre Christian religions. It is also a great business. Bottom line is if God is present everywhere why would you need to go to Medjugorie?
The fact that the seers have become rich off this makes me not believe. The messages are almost always the same. After going to Fatima I can find no other place where I feel the peace of God and Mary . A poor village with so much love
That happens in many Catholic sites, too. Anywhere where there is a Tabernacle where the Body and Blood of the Lord are reserved; where there is Holy Mass, and there are priests who hear confessions. Try going to Lourdes, Fatima, Akita, La Salette, Guadalupe, Champion, and other places where Mary's apparitions have been approved. Medjugorie apparitions are not approved, but people going there are tolerated.
@@JennyHawes they are saying it’s in the lives of the visionaries and their own relationship with God, how it has enriched their lives with the visions and messages. But “supernatural” indicates it absolutely was caused by God. More likely, it was caused by the children praying, fasting and otherwise leading good Catholic lives.
Non-sense! Medju is a cult. “Highest level…*”You cultist already are misled thinking that Medju is now on par with or on the same level as Fatima, Lourdes, and Good Success. What a joke - confusion on top of confusion. No local ordinary or bishop of the diocese has approved, ever, for very good reasons. Fruits are from receiving sacraments and making a sacrificial pilgrimage, regardless of the place. And there are bad fruits often not being reported… *under new norms (supernatural origin not required)
This is a disaster. It is NOT Our Lady that appears there. This is a modernist mama. This is a disgrace. The Bishop in the beginning, did not want to approve this false apparition. Our Lady never appears for such a long time, she only comes to say what is necessary for salvation. This is like a charismatic movement. Comes from protestantism. It’s OK if you want to ‘feel’ good.
another Cdl. Fernández type document with a genius for yes and no simultaneously within a mostly dense intellectual structure that allows this type of half full /half empty debate ad infinitum.
So in the future you are saying it can never be approved as supernatural, the first 7 days were, why not now or in the future, all the scientists did tests and came to the conclusion they were in ecstacy, no one could keep this up all these years if otherwise.
@@brianburnett4956 how about all the Priests including a well known exorcist who became Priests after going to Medjugorje and having a conversion. Go there yourself.. See it for yourself. If you are that certain it's false.. Go and prove it.. For those with faith no proof is necessary, For those without, no proof is enough.
@brianburnett4956 Indeed, he was just as ignorant about Medjugorje as he is on other matters. The actual Church has warned not to focus on the visionaries. Read about the visionaries of La Salette and the lives they lead.
Exactly. Instead go to Champion Wisconsin for pilgrimage. The only truly APPROVED Marian apparition right here in the USA. And it’s a great place to visit, not a war torn hellhole like Medju.
@@joseph_mta5840apparently you don’t know local history and are blinded by the cult of Medju. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess. If you believe the seers are real, then you reject the authority of the local bishops who have condemned the so called seers. Hence, if you follow the seers, you’re essentially in a religious cult.
Mother Mary has never appeared at Mejugore. I know this as a personal revelation to myself . It is based on a falsehood and a lie . On the other hand the sacraments exist there . Which I'm guessing is why a green light has been given . It is still based on a lie . My name is Ayva , which is a fruit from the quince tree 🌲 . Given to me by God . God My Father that's what the name means . To me this is not joyful news and I have been given the fortitude to say that today .
Why do we need this hoax to be encouraged to fast and pray? This is causing me to want to finally leave the church. This is so disappointing, I always trusted the churches discernment but now I'm doubting.
@@deb9ragorton742 deb9...Try not to get discouraged. The Mystical Body of Christ, the Church, is "One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic" because Christ is One and Holy. Our Lord is the founder of this Church himself, and being the Word made flesh, the second person of the Most Holy Trinity, he certainly knew that some placed in authority would not be good shepherds. Our Lord, lest we forget, chose Judas and Peter, but even after denying Our Lord three times Peter repented, and was still the first pope! Our Lord said of Judas, "it were better for him, if that man had not been born" (Mt 26: 24). What has been declared as dogmatic truths through Divine Revelation directly and in Scripture, and through Apostolic Tradition, in addition to the countless Holy men and women saints, members of Christ's mystical body- like you and I- (and some great popes and bishops too!!) prove we have nothing to fear! Draw close to Our Lord, pray the rosary every day, ask Our Lady for her loving, motherly (Perpetual Help) go to confession and the Eucharistic Lord often and all will be well. Remember, that as Catholic's, fire fighters don't run from fires... I will pray for you, and please, pray for me. Ave Maria.
If you are contemplating leaving the Church I'm afraid you don't understand the Church. When Jesus said "the gates of Hell will not prevail" He meant it. Brace yourself. It is going to get worse before it gets better. Stay close to the sacraments, scripture and the catechism. No one is supposed to believe in ANY apparition - even Fatima. Apparitions won't save you. The Church is despite this heretic Pope and his minions.
@@TheXone7 Jesus Christ was given the authority by God himself, do not ever forget that. Not a church , not a saint, But him and by him alone is the path to God , this is the beginning of the great falling away , i dont know how you dont see that but i pray that you will
Over 1200 Priests received their calling in Medjugorje, including Father Don Calloway.
Fr Don Calloway a great priest, his y/t talks and book on the Rosary are so powerful.
Father Galloway believes in avlot of things that are not real. He ven said that the painting is floating in the Guadalupe image, which is completely fake, among other things. He believes without questioning anything.
@@jeffkeenan5059 do you have a source for your claim?
@@Jade-902 , yes, it’s called the internet. Try using it
@@jeffkeenan5059 It’s on the internet so it must be true?
Way too many errors in what Mary apparently said to these “seers”. Anytime you have a gathering of the faithful, of course the Holy Spirit is there and working. The seers and the city have made millions of dollars. I’m thankful we aren’t forced by the church to believe in Medjugorje. Remember, the devil can deceive the faithful.
Jade, I agree. I have 3 problems about the supposed messages from Medj:
1. Our Blessed Mother supposedly told the seers that the date of her Nativity is August 4, not September 8. For centuries, the Church has been celebrating Mary's Nativity on September 8. How come it's only now that the Blessed Mother is correcting this major "error"?
2. She was supposed to have told at least one seer that Our Lord Jesus considers all religions to be equal.
3. She was supposed to have told the seers that the most saintly person in the whole Bosnia-Herzogovina area was a Muslim woman. WTH - not even a Christian?
For Catholics in the US who want to make a pilgrimage to Our Lady, the approved shrines of authentic apparitions closer to home than far-off Medjugorije are: Our Lady of Champion near Green Bay, Wisconsin and Our Lady of Guadalupe in Mexico City.
@@marietta1335She didn’t say all religions are equal. She told Vicka (I think) that “All religions are dear to God but some have more truth in them than others”.
@@jimbro601That’s pretty bad. ALL religions? Even the ones that worship multiple deities? Come on now.
Well according to a few priests the Vatican within the last few weeks officially recognized these apparitions as real. They are likely working on an official statement of release as we speak.
Why Catholics are looking for a special "mystical" places when we claim that the living God is in Holy Eucharist in every Church in the World? What else do we need? There is nothing more anywhere.
Amazing place. Lost count how many times I’ve been.
I went to medjugorje for the first time on the 21th August til 29th August and all i can say is thats its a feeling you cant describe! It feels like the thinnest vail between earth and heaven! Ill definitely be back again ❤
Thank you !
Now lets push for the Akita Apparitions and the good work of Nun Agnes Sasagawa 🙏
The Akita apparitions have been approved by the Church; by Pope Benedict XVI. But it's not as well publicized as Medj. In the US, the only approved apparition is Our Lady of Champion, near Green Bay, Wisconsin. But again, it's not as well publicized as Medj. Publicity makes a lot of difference.
@@marietta1335 YES! EWTN should be OVERWHELMINGLY promoting Champion in the USA, not Medju!
I visited the convent of the Handmaid's of the Eucharist,@ Yuzawadai,Akita in 2010.I am so happy to hear that Sister passed away on the feast day of the Assumption of our Lady into heaven.She was 93 y.o.this holy saint suffered so much she since 1973.God bless
They’ve overturned condemned apparitions too, so they’re trying to mock the Church. Fernandez needs to go fast, he’s no holy man
Can you tell me what apparitions were overturned and where can I find the source doc.?
Thank you! ❤
As a practicing Roman Catholic, I most certainly feel assured that the Blessed Mother is appearing there. But what I will also say is, after the way I have been treated by some "Catholics", and after the opinions that the Pope has publicly stated, I wouldn't trust a word that he would say with regard to this issue.
My sisters and I visited Medugorje last November and you can definitely feel a Holy presence in the area! I highly recommend everyone visit and experience for themselves the call of our Holy Mother to conversion to her Son.
Yes! I live near Međugorje and it's true. 1st time I went there you can really feel something is different
You do not feel it in church at home?
@@petersiska7510 yes, butnot always, but as it should be because our faith is not based on the feelings.
When I first came it was like the heaven is open and connected with the earth, I don't know how to explain that
@@petersiska7510 yes but in a different way. I do sense the Lord is with me when I read scripture and pray or at Mass especially during the consecration but it’s something completely different in Medugorje, it is supernatural. I strongly felt the presence of our Holy Mother too when my mother passed several years ago, I felt her telling me where we should bury her and my father. It was the most beautiful feeling I have ever felt!
@@robertkarl5753 It is not about feelings. IT is making me really worried that witchcraft is taking place in this place. It certainly makes visionaries rich and all those who make money from this place. They will not let this go. It is interesting during COVID-19 people disappeared, suddenly this "supernatural" apparitions did not feel special. Where was then the faith of people? Why they dropped from visiting?
This seems to be another vague conclusion from the DDF. In 1985, Vitska (sp) one of the original three girls to first report visions of Our Lady, is startled, blinks, and moves back from a reporter's (Jean Louis) per Prof Louis Berlanger) hand who pokes his finger toward the left side of her face. Whereas the girls at Garabendal while in ecstacy, could not be distracted in the least, people even tried to lift them up and could not even move them! Further, Vitska herself, after the incident, wanted to explain what happened. She states that right at that same exact moment, she thought the Blessed Mother was quote, "going to drop the baby Jesus" and so, she flinched back. First, do you really think the Blessed Mother delivering a message from heaven is all of a sudden going to drop the baby Jesus? Second, would you move back, or would you move forward to catch the baby (Jesus in this case)? And All of This is On Film-Watch it for yourself! "Its ridiculous" as Fr. Phillip, FSSP, tells this story himself on Sensus Fidelium... "that anyone would believe this." Additionally, if you think you can just call up (conjure) the Holy Spirit at will for messages, then these are not heavenly messages, "...then you are at a séance, its blasphemous!" Fr. Philip concludes, "People who believe these "messages" after this and other highly questionable events (discredited by even the local bishops!) are "being deceived because they want to be deceived." No, avoid Medjugorje, follow the fully papal approved visions and messages of Our Lady of Fatima and Akita, the last of which was approved by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (Pope Benedict XVI). Ave Maria.
You say "follow the church" yet are not listening to what its saying?!
@@mauijttewaalneither have the people following medjugorje who have been ignoring the bishops for years.
Scientists have done numerous tests on them, even putting hot matches on Vicka and poking needles and she never flinched
God is granting us all much through the prayers of pilgrims , countless graces Thank you Jesus , God the Father Our Lady
The document simply says you can believe the situation has good effects, however, that the events are not supernatural.
@@RichPohlman I admit that I believe the faith of the visionaries and of those who have been drawn closer to Christ or to the priesthood or religious life, but I am not sure I believe that there is anything supernatural going on in this, or any apparitions. One would think the intention of the BVM was to draw attention to herself, rather than her Son. If people believe their lives are enriched by it, I can’t say anything is wrong with that. But I am glad that the Church doesn’t require belief in these, or any, visions, apparitions, etc. I note also that all major world religions have beliefs which are similar but not necessarily supernatural either.
From Ireland. Thank you for positive reporting and an analysis on Medj. In August 1985 I made a pilgrimage along with about 40 others. It was organised by a local newly formed Medj prayer group. We had 2 Priests as our spiritual guides. It was a most beautiful, joyful faith filled week of my life. Lots & lots of prayer & penance.
The following year my 2 teenage daughters went with a youth group. My 14 yr old grandson went for Youth week 5 yrs ago. Thank God and his Holy for the graces and blessings which has come and will come to the World though Medjugorje. 🙏☘️
Fast food st. JPIi pet project to destroy the church after assisi all gods are one world religion of hallensgia satanists of V2 second french revolutiom
I’m confused, is it that the apparitions are still in question?they are still alleged? The approval is on the fruits of vocations & acts of faith in a town.
Exactly - confusion certainly exists - more bad fruit many ignore!
It is new policy of the Vatican not to approve apparitions anymore, everyone can decide for themselves to belive or not.
I'm so saddened, viewing this, listening to this.
Why?
You and the devil
Don't be one bit sad......go to Medjugorje and find out for yourself....
Shouldn't be saddened by a nihil obstat tho..
@@lawrencevandenberg7725 , You and the Devil
The official line on Medjugorje by the Catholic Church hasn’t changed. Basically, it leaves us in the same position that we were in before. The faithful who think that Medjugorje is supernatural can continue to think that, but they've been put on notice by the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith that not all the messages should just be regarded Heaven-sent. The Church specifically said that some of the messages are misleading, and there are some elements in them that you just need to not pay attention to.
They are still calling it "alleged"?
ABSOLUTELY ...
Of course it's "alleged." It hasn't been approved like Our Lady of Champion apparitions in Wisconsin.
@@marietta1335 I know. I am just surprised that the Vatican even bothered to come out with that report. It doesn't say anything new. I might be wrong but I have a feeling that it will never be approved. Have you ever been to Champion Wisconsin? I thought about going there someday.
@@charflorida5433 I also have the feeling Medj will never be approved, especially since the CDF has ruled that apparitions henceforth would be assessed only on whether the messages do not conflict with Church teachings (Nihil Obstat), no longer on whether it has supernatural origin or not.
Yes, I've been to Champion, Wisconsin. It's a very peaceful place, much smaller and less grand than the shrines of Fatima, Lourdes or Guadalupe. But that's because it has been approved by the Vatican only in 2009. It's beautiful in its simplicity and the pilgrims I met were joyful and prayerful.
The story of the 1859 apparitions in Champion is simple but heartwarming. Our Lady identified herself to Adele Brise as the "Queen of Heaven" and told her to gather the children in the woodsy Green Bay area and teach them catechism and how to pray. When Adele said she herself did not know enough about the faith, Blessed Mother Mary told her not to be afraid, for she would be with her.
Adele went on foot door-to-door in all kinds of weather, inviting the children to come to her makeshift classroom. Often times, she had to do housework for a family just to let the kids come to her. It's a simple message for simple people, but the results were extraordinary. Great miracles happened, such as people fleeing to her school for safety during the great fire of Phestigo; starving families finding food at their doorsteps; a large, violent schismatic group of "Old Catholics" was driven from the area through intercession to Our Lady. Sick people were healed and there were many converts.
The shrine was formerly called "Our Lady of Good Help," because that's the title of Mary popular among the Belgian immigrants of the area. But recently, the shrine was renamed "Our Lady of Champion" after the place of the apparitions, Champion township. I also read that the USCCB has formed a commission for the cause of beatification of Adele Brise.
I went there with a group of relatives from Chicago. We went to Mass. The people in the shrine were joyful and prayerful, listening to the story of the apparitions from priests who were there to help and hear confessions.
Of course, after the pilgrimage, we went over the the Green Bay baseball park and had some fun touring the site.
I don't understand this declaration. It talks about "fruits" but also speaks of errors. It's incoherent. "Necessary Clarifications"? "Misleading statements" can simply be ignored???? What kind of sound guidance is that????
@elmer528 exactly my thoughts. I find it ironic that Medjugorje mary said “all religions are created equal”. And now, that’s what Pope Francis *just* said!
Because there are fruits ...but many errors .
Exactly 💯
@Jade_902
Nothing to do with it at all
Blessedly, Catholics are not obliged to believe in Medjugorje.
Yes it is different, but look around Mary is accompanying us through these serious times : many graces
The fruits are abundant, and vocations Our Lady Queen of Peace will triumph, people go there for years for many reasons and she gives each of us Her Motherly gifts
Bad fruits are many; just few facts/examples: 1) the local bishops have repeatedly condemned the seers as lying frauds; 2) seers spiritual directors were laicized creating further scandal; 3) wars/chaos in region: 4) exorcist reports of substantial demonic activities there, etc.
Read E. Michael Jones’ book, “The Medjugorje Deception” to learn about other untold facts surrounding these so-called apparitions.
@Mary-4b2 some of these “famous” priests that “came out of the fruit of Medjugorje” are very questionable.
@@brianburnett4956 Thanks, Brian, for pointing these out. God bless you.
I have seen the same visions of Our Blessed Mother Mary in the sky in Northern Michigan that people have seen in Medjugorje. The sun was pulsating and there was only one cloud in the sky and the cloud was a Cross. I took a picture of the cross and after the picture developed was a visible Mother Mary praying to the cross. The date of the picture was taken on 8-8-08
One that knows the story of all major apparitions around the world and the demeanor of Our Lady in all of them, cannot but be a little stunned that the Mother of God has all of a sudden become such a "chatterbox"
Still not clear!
I have been to Medjugorje 14 years back, know it's a wonderful spiritual place to visit. climbed up Cross Mountain as well.
Talking out of BOTH SIDES OF MOUTH to placate ALL.
@@tinadavy3990 exactly. I expected some clarification, yet this is still confusing word salad.
Let's just ask ourselves that if our faith was tested today, would we be willing to give all like the mother and her sons in Maccabees or are we only believers when everything is pleasant?
I actually would like to override that for the church- for the people, her whole entire point is that we do not have to go through a man, She is our Heart
That sounds like a heretical fruit😮
What exactly are you trying to say?
Mary is represented by the heart and our connection to it and our ability to trust in it @@marietta1335
@@granmabern5283follow your heart
What are you saying?
Ave Maria 😇✝️💐🥰💙🤍
I knew that it was true that mother mary is here with us ,and I thkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk god for let her be with us
That’s not what the so-called approval says. Can you not read?
Could you not interrupt Dr. Dodd when she was explaining the 6 areas that the DDF made in regards to some of the more problematic issues of Medjugore. She was stopped after 3 by the interviewer. This interviewer should learn to give time to people she is interviewing and ask appropriate questions, because otherwise she is just going for quick soundbites. EWTN should avoid being a Catholic CNN, but allow for more in depth analysis of events. Very weak interview.
@@tomek5019 I agree 100%! It makes the interview harder to follow.
What does it mean that it is not considered supernatural?
@@truelight8550 it’s more likely something which occurred in the hearts of the visionaries themselves, as they remain close to Our Lady and appear to be spiritually following the Catholic faith tradition, but it cannot be proven to be genuinely caused by God.
Can you provide the link to the full official Vatican document?
Official approval is not necessary. The Church cannot officially condemn the apparitions if there is nothing contrary to church teachings and the Gospels in the messages from the apparitions. A Bishop's opinion can change with time and with new information.
all I can say is that I was turned off when I met the alleged visionary in Culver City, he had the BVG to appear on call….
I am a fruit of Medjugorje! I had lost my Medjugorje Medal, aprox 2-3 months ago-I felt certain I lost it at church-I looked everywhere, including the hynmal boxes in pew where we sit & surrounding area-my friends searched & nothing. I felt in my heart, it would return to me, patience is a virtue-aprox 3 days, I started to pray to St Anthony-today, I found my Medal-in the hymnal box, I had already searched numerous times. It was placed right there in the open to be seen. It was an emotional reunion-and the circumstance that led up to me finding it, was of supernatural occurrence. Jesus Christ & our Blessed Mother were involved in what transpired, from the momentmy medal was lost, and when I found it, & everything in between-the Holy Family really walks among us-we truly are Their Temples-with that said, prepare yourselves-repent, repent, repent, & pray, pray, & pray some more! Jesus is coming, & we’re going to be witnessing the Gospels play out, before our very eyes! 🙏🏼😇🙏🏼💕
THIS QUITE UPSETTING! THERE ARE MANY, MANY STRANGE AND UNIDRNTIFYING MESSAGES FROM THIS APPARITION! I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IT IS THE BLESSED VIRGIN MARY! I AM SO SAD AND CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. I PRAY OUR LORD WILL SEND OUR LADY TO EXPOSE THIS LIE.
Your caps lock is stuck
@@Flintlock1776 Sorry bout that.
It is a place of prayer and penance, the mountain of apparition is a profound encounter , years ago older people barefoot , praying 🙏
Infested with demonic activity and ravaged by chaos, wars, sex traffic and money laundering. Just some of the bad fruits. Medju is a massive fraud and this news is scandalous!
Wow! In that it is... yes. In that it isn't... no!
The messages say nothing special, anybody can make it. Apparitions play in people’s believe in magic. Somebody sees something hidden yet nobody else see anything, plays into wild imagination of old pre Christian religions. It is also a great business. Bottom line is if God is present everywhere why would you need to go to Medjugorie?
@@petersiska7510 great point you have made.
The fact that the seers have become rich off this makes me not believe. The messages are almost always the same. After going to Fatima I can find no other place where I feel the peace of God and Mary . A poor village with so much love
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Today thousands of young old and those who convert and do penance, climbing rigid mountain, fasting prayers it’s a land of Our Lady
Despite the seers being frauds - preternatural- not supernatural.
That happens in many Catholic sites, too. Anywhere where there is a Tabernacle where the Body and Blood of the Lord are reserved; where there is Holy Mass, and there are priests who hear confessions. Try going to Lourdes, Fatima, Akita, La Salette, Guadalupe, Champion, and other places where Mary's apparitions have been approved. Medjugorie apparitions are not approved, but people going there are tolerated.
Our Blessed mother is appearing ,isn't that supernatural?
@@JennyHawes they are saying it’s in the lives of the visionaries and their own relationship with God, how it has enriched their lives with the visions and messages. But “supernatural” indicates it absolutely was caused by God. More likely, it was caused by the children praying, fasting and otherwise leading good Catholic lives.
Very much like Lourdes , you sense Mother Mary is there … fruits
Non-sense! Medju is a cult. “Highest level…*”You cultist already are misled thinking that Medju is now on par with or on the same level as Fatima, Lourdes, and Good Success. What a joke - confusion on top of confusion. No local ordinary or bishop of the diocese has approved, ever, for very good reasons. Fruits are from receiving sacraments and making a sacrificial pilgrimage, regardless of the place. And there are bad fruits often not being reported…
*under new norms (supernatural origin not required)
The Vatican didn't say the messages were from Mary. People go there in sincere faith. But how do you explain the "visionaries'" getting rich off this?
This is a disaster. It is NOT Our Lady that appears there. This is a modernist mama. This is a disgrace. The Bishop in the beginning, did not want to approve this false apparition. Our Lady never appears for such a long time, she only comes to say what is necessary for salvation. This is like a charismatic movement. Comes from protestantism. It’s OK if you want to ‘feel’ good.
Hey Catherine. It's not pronounced Magicgoria. It's beginning Medj.
another Cdl. Fernández type document with a genius for yes and no simultaneously within a mostly dense intellectual structure that allows this type of half full /half empty debate ad infinitum.
LOL! Love your comment! Thank you.
So in the future you are saying it can never be approved as supernatural, the first 7 days were, why not now or in the future, all the scientists did tests and came to the conclusion they were in ecstacy, no one could keep this up all these years if otherwise.
Clarabelle Walk
The Pope Needs to go there... Saint Pope JP II spoke well of Medjugorje and is quoted to say that it would be an important place.
Myth- not true. Cite a source!
The next Pope will
@@HoldFast-r7geven Frances mocks the so-called seers who claim to deliver apparitions on demand (big $ scam).
@@brianburnett4956 how about all the Priests including a well known exorcist who became Priests after going to Medjugorje and having a conversion.
Go there yourself.. See it for yourself. If you are that certain it's false.. Go and prove it..
For those with faith no proof is necessary, For those without, no proof is enough.
@brianburnett4956 Indeed, he was just as ignorant about Medjugorje as he is on other matters. The actual Church has warned not to focus on the visionaries. Read about the visionaries of La Salette and the lives they lead.
“Community” our lady of communism
More lies to mis direct those seeking Salvation through the Holy Roman Catholic Church.
"Approval" of medjugore by the heretic the message is directed at is just pure evil joke 😢
Ya sure Mary makes mistakes sure ya ok.
Create a diversion/distraction away from what Bergoilio is really up to ....
Amazing they want you to travel to this tourist trap, but not to seek out the visionaries, that pretty much says it all about this scam.
Exactly. Instead go to Champion Wisconsin for pilgrimage. The only truly APPROVED Marian apparition right here in the USA. And it’s a great place to visit, not a war torn hellhole like Medju.
Medjugorje is beautiful and it’s far from a war torn hellhole. Bosnia and Croatia are gorgeous and very safe.
@@joseph_mta5840 I’m sure it’s all that and more, too bad it’s not a genuine apparition.
@@joseph_mta5840apparently you don’t know local history and are blinded by the cult of Medju. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess. If you believe the seers are real, then you reject the authority of the local bishops who have condemned the so called seers. Hence, if you follow the seers, you’re essentially in a religious cult.
@@kahnlives I certainly would be willing to visit there but just because it’s in a nice part of the world, near the Mediterranean.
Now I know for sure it's fake
😊Mary is a Divine Incarnation, just as Jesus.
The visionaries arn't rich
JEUES SAID BLESS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS ARE THOES WHO BELIVE WITH OUT SEEE
What a bunch of nonsense.
Mother Mary has never appeared at Mejugore. I know this as a personal revelation to myself . It is based on a falsehood and a lie . On the other hand the sacraments exist there . Which I'm guessing is why a green light has been given . It is still based on a lie . My name is Ayva , which is a fruit from the quince tree 🌲 . Given to me by God . God My Father that's what the name means . To me this is not joyful news and I have been given the fortitude to say that today .
Why do we need this hoax to be encouraged to fast and pray? This is causing me to want to finally leave the church. This is so disappointing, I always trusted the churches discernment but now I'm doubting.
@@deb9ragorton742 deb9...Try not to get discouraged. The Mystical Body of Christ, the Church, is "One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic" because Christ is One and Holy. Our Lord is the founder of this Church himself, and being the Word made flesh, the second person of the Most Holy Trinity, he certainly knew that some placed in authority would not be good shepherds. Our Lord, lest we forget, chose Judas and Peter, but even after denying Our Lord three times Peter repented, and was still the first pope! Our Lord said of Judas, "it were better for him, if that man had not been born" (Mt 26: 24). What has been declared as dogmatic truths through Divine Revelation directly and in Scripture, and through Apostolic Tradition, in addition to the countless Holy men and women saints, members of Christ's mystical body- like you and I- (and some great popes and bishops too!!) prove we have nothing to fear!
Draw close to Our Lord, pray the rosary every day, ask Our Lady for her loving, motherly (Perpetual Help) go to confession and the Eucharistic Lord often and all will be well. Remember, that as Catholic's, fire fighters don't run from fires... I will pray for you, and please, pray for me. Ave Maria.
l agree with you !!! So sad !!!
If you are contemplating leaving the Church I'm afraid you don't understand the Church. When Jesus said "the gates of Hell will not prevail" He meant it. Brace yourself. It is going to get worse before it gets better. Stay close to the sacraments, scripture and the catechism. No one is supposed to believe in ANY apparition - even Fatima. Apparitions won't save you. The Church is despite this heretic Pope and his minions.
@@TheXone7 Jesus Christ was given the authority by God himself, do not ever forget that. Not a church , not a saint, But him and by him alone is the path to God , this is the beginning of the great falling away , i dont know how you dont see that but i pray that you will
There's really nothing to it. It's just a distraction from Jorge Bergoglio heresy 😠
Vatican: all religions are the same. Also Medjugorje apparitions are true 🤔
So confusing !!!
The Vatican said neither.
@@suru01 srry. The pope said
I'm feeling it's a hoax
Catholicism is a hoax. These apparitions are just a side gig.