Why SVS Should Be AFRAID? 15" Tonewinner D6000 Subwoofer Review
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- Could this be the best 15" budget subwoofer? IT JUST MIGHT BE! In this video we review and measure the Tonewinner D6000 15" subwoofer. Do you think SVS should be afraid?
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00:00 - Intro
01:42 - Price
02:34 - Specs
05:13 - Can It Shake My Fireplace
05:49 - EOT & Fury Demo
07:09 - Sound Quality For Movies
08:04 - Sound Quality For Music
08:53 - Music Demos
10:12 My Complaints
11:39 - REW Measurements
18:23 - My Thoughts
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Great review! I have been waiting for this one! Measurements are impressive, easily equal to or even better than my PSA 15's. I really like the App function, and really, really miss that (SVS) and happy to see that in the D6000"s as well as the XLR connection. What a great affordable sub!! Well done TW!
They really did nail the design and performance on this bad boy. The price is just nuts for the performance.
I'm with you in that I'm not crazy about the upside down display, but I really appreciate when a company puts thought into those kind of details.
I bought 2 PB3000s from Amir last year and have enjoyed them very much. I was considering picking up another PB3000 to help smooth out the responses in my room a little more still but now I'm wondering if I should trade the 2 PB3000s in for 3 D6000s. I was initially skeptical of Tonewinner, but having the 8300 in my system for the past few months has made me a believer. To my ears, value is off the charts!
Fury and edge of tomorrow are absolutely amazing for demos. Nice video as always man!
Thanks brother!
You should compare this sub to the monolith 15 and the new klipsch 16 in sub.
I will do my best to get those in for comparison.
It actually looks very much like the 15" Monolith. I will not be surprised if it is the exact same sub and Tonewinner is the OEM for Monolith
@@spiroszaharakis2648Monolith subs are designed by the head of Perlisten and to my understanding they come out the same factory.
Is that factory Tonewinner? Maybe. They are CLEARLY a knockoff of Monolith and I’m surprised the content creator kept mentioning SVS when this sub clearly looks like the Monolith
Agreed, looks just like a Monolith 15
@@spiroszaharakis2648 get Monoprice in here to confirm that, it's been said before, and was stated by Monoprice to be incorrect.
Definitely been looking forward to this one since your teaser video! Awesome performance for its price! May even be best in its class
I think it is best in class after looking at its numbers vs SVS and Paradigm. The Tonewinner has surprisingly better performance.
SVS in Canada should be a no fly zone due to price increases
100%, this Tonewinner sub is perfect timing for us Canadians, and it is still an EXCELLENT value for Americans.
Hey Barrett great review! I really enjoy all your reviews and channel in general so thanks. Very helpful, your videos especially helped me out with my new Anthem AVM70 and setting that up. Lots of great choices out there but keep HSU Research in mind also for subwoofers. I have two VTF-2 MK5's which are 12's, corner loaded diagonally in my room. They will go down to 16hz with one port plugged. So you get that punchy bass of a 12 and the low "pictures shaking off the walls" type bass too. My room is on the smaller size so fitting a couple 15's in there would be a stretch. Cool thing about the MK5's is you can configure them the way you want by plugging (or not plugging) the two ports. Depending on how you like your bass to sound, what you predominately listen to etc. Reasonably priced at $689 US apiece currently but sometimes they have some nice sales too. I sound like an ad but I have had them for about 5 years now and they are awesome, continue to impress. End game for subs in my case. HSU is not as widely known as like an SVS and I don't think they get enough props for their very well made and engineered speakers. Maybe you could get some HSU stuff in at some point down the road to review.
Thanks for the support brother, I appreciate it.
I have had my eye on HSU subs before. As a matter of fact, I have had them provide quotes for me twice. I am in Canada though, and HSU's sales model doesn't really accommodate Canadians very well. For example, if we ever needed warranty, HSU would expect the Canadian to ship the subwoofer to HSU and back at the customers expense. That, and the cost of shipping and exchange, HSU really loses its appeal because the cost gets out of hand quickly for their budget subs. Anyone in America looking for budget subs should keep HSU in mind, they do offer great performance for the price.
Ouch... I wasn't aware of that. Not fair to a Canadian consumer for sure, I think that would be a deal breaker for me too. They should definitely make some changes there. @@SpecOfTech
Ive just seen that there is now a dual 15 inch available the Tonewinner SW-D8000 Dual 15" 1500W Subwoofer - would love to see a review on this!!
Stay tuned 😉
I second this, would love a review of the sw-d8000, they're getting my interest :p
Great review! Tonewinner also has a dual 15inch subwoofer the SW-D8000. There's no review for that one, wish you could pull out one!
I might just have some Tonewinner subwoofer surprises coming up on the channel in the near future. Stay tuned over the next few months.
Can't wait for that review, if you get your hands on them of course :)
Great video mate, lot of work went into this one. Ive always been impressed with Tonewinner. I think I will own one of their amps one day - no idea they branched out into speakers too. Wonder if they will add more finishes - maybe some wood veneers...
Thanks brother, you would love their amps, great quality. I hope they do add some more finishes after they start to gain some traction.
@@SpecOfTech yes I've done reviews on the 7 channel and the 16ch processor (which I wasnt too impressed with if I'm honest! - I know you liked it) - I am seriously considering it for biamping my new mains in my new setup... either way great vid mate - lots of work went into it for sure.
@@BuildMontage Thanks Tony! Yeah, I think the pre/pro is great for the price. We need to catch up again soon.
Another great review! As a newbie in this hobby, your reviews really helped me a lot in choosing speakers before auditioning them in person. Your reviews really struck a perfect balance between objective specs/tech and subjective impressions with sound demo, which are very easy to follow especially for a girl like me who might find complex specs too difficult to digest at an early learning stage. Also really appreciate your unbiased reviews on Chinese brand like Tonewinner as many ppl have associated this origin as being inferior. Lastly, may I know if you are interested in reviewing Buchardt Audio S400MK2 when you have a chance? I believe the company will be happy to send out a pair for review. Thanks very much!
Thank you! I'm truly glad to hear you find my reviews helpful. I would love to review the Buchardt S400MK2, but they weren't willing to send me a pair in the past. Maybe now that my channel is larger they might consider it.
Nice review, Barrett! I can imagine how this thing may shake your room! I really got interest on it! I would like to suggest you a movie scene and a music to try: a scene from Midway movie, it's around 14th minute, when there's is an air starts and a plane drops a bomb. And the song is Crystal, from Punker & Midranger, it's free to be played, they just ask to mention them.
I try to incorporate those next time, thanks for the suggestions.
@@SpecOfTech Thanks you, Barrett, I really think you will appreciate these low bass!
Love your reviews, have to ask you what your opinion in on dual D6000’s vs dual JTR Captivator 1400’s. Price is exactly the same $2,600. I found the used JTRs local. Thanks
Greyhound on Apple would be nice 😊
When are you planning to release the video on the 12 inch? I'm really waiting for that review to make my decision between the 15 or 2 x 12 inch ! Thanks for reviwing this !!
I am working on that one as we speak. I hope to release it within 2 weeks.
Nice! I know 2 subs is always better than 1 big sub for most part and what i have right now is 2 ''cheap'' paradigm pdr 10... I've never heard the deep bass a 15 inch driver can produce..wich is why i'm tempted.. but my room is a little too small for it...about 11 x16 . But the SVS PB3000 is said to be just as deep ... so if this 12 inchs from tonnewinner is as good as you said.. i'm hoping it will be close to the pb3000 ! Thanks for the response !
@@SpecOfTech
Looks like a fantastic sub!
Nice 😊
If you want an 18" I think the Rythmik F18 is not extremly expencive, and a very good sub from what I have read/ heard 😊
Looks like its likely the same OEM monoprice uses for the Monolith or at least very very close. Different amp for sure but the cabinet is pretty recognizable other than mdf vs hdf
Good value , I have 2 rel 12 mk pretty awesome and for music is 🍷
When you were testing this what mode were you using? I noticed there are 3 modes, Normal, deep and strong.
Thanks for the review! Do you happen to know if these are coming to the UK Market?
I am not sure, but I hope they do. Everyone deserves the opportunity to get performance like this for an inexpensive price.
How would you say tonewinner stacks up against JTR? Was thinking about jtr captivator. I know tonewinner also does a twin 18 as well. Your thoughts please
I'd like to see your take on the SW D8000. I have a pair of svs pb3000s.
I would like to see what get after calibration
Could you comment on this sub’s subsonic performance with all high pass filters disengaged? I would imagine things get fairly ugly below 10 hz at higher volumes, but my particular use case is (almost exclusively) at lower listening levels and I find I’m increasingly less interested in achieving max SPL than I am in attaining low distortion, high quality resolution of transient subsonic content.
I’ve been eyeballing the SVS (sealed box) Ultra 16, but the size and weight (my ManCave is upstairs, with a staircase and 45° twist at the halfway point)-not to mention the price- have me looking elsewhere.
Love your channel and your commitment to exploring the wonderful world of LFE!
You don't really get any usable output below 10hz, at this price range you will never find a subwoofer that has good sub 10hz output. I have JTR CAP2400's that cost $3500 each and after 10hz they fall off a cliff. If you want good output below 10hz get the JTR RS2's or JTR CAP4000's.
Just wondering how does it sound I've heard JL audio subs very precise tight I have SVS pb-4000 sounds good but not as tight and accurate as a JL audio when you do measurements it does not reveal the sound what do you prefer sound wise between the two
Hi Barrett, thanks a lot for you great videos on the Tonewinner products. I am considering duals and just to let you know, there is a 15" model available with dual 15" drivers, the D8000. The cabinet is a little bit bigger and it has a more powerful amp. There is little info / images to be found on this model, where is the 2nd driver placed etc, but I have asked that.
Here are the specs that I found in their subwoofer manual. (This can be found on their website):
SW-D8000:
- Driver unit: 15" x 2
- Frequency range: 13-220Hz
- Cont. working power: 1500W (3 ohm, 1kHz, THD
I'm not sure if the D8000 will be making its way to North America. That being said, I may or may not have had a chance to see one ;). The drivers are opposed on either side, there are 5 ports on the front and the amp on the back.
There is a good possibility an 18" ported version will makes its way into our market...fingers crossed.
@@SpecOfTech I found the offical product page in China (I can't paste the URL here :-( ). This dual opposed looks great and those five ports look brutal. I found a European distributor who sells them for a very, very affordable price.
Might order two of those :-)
By chance do you have any specs on what the excursion for this sub is? From the looks of things, the excursion is significant. Also, I see how some brands market their subs as 15 inch subs when they're closer to a 13 inch sub. Are there any more specifics on how the driver is measured? Is it basket edge to basket edge? Oddly the Monolith 13 could be considered a 15 inch driver depending on how you measure. Last question, do you have any sense for the weight of the magnet?
No sorry I don't have the excursion specifics. This driver is measured basket to basket, but that is how most subwoofers are measured. What I can say is that it doesn't have an excessive basket thickness, so the driver is around 13.75" from surround to surround if I remember correct. Sorry I have not removed the drivers, but it must be quite substantial considering the output.
AWEsome... And good price..
Ohhhh snappp I had no idea they did subs.
So 6000 and 4000 have the same output. Can someone explain 6000 advantage. Thanks in advance
Une réponse précise peut être pour une pièce plus petite le d4000 et le d6000 pour une pièce plus grande ?
Is there a tonewinner sales floor in lower Toronto? I live about 30mins from the Michigan/Canada bridge.
Contact Aamir at Summit Hifi, he lives close to Toronto, he will be able to help you out.
Tonewinner ain't playing around 😮
I am not into real big subs as I am in a small room 15 ft x 13 ft x8 ft height and before the pandemic I was looking at the SVS pb 3000 and I could get two for $3000 Canadian plus tax ....now I am kicking myself for not getting them and you know why ( price has gone through the roof) So I looked at The Tonewinner 12 inch and its 1499 Canadian which I thought I might add to my 3 12 inch subs that I have now until I saw the price of it So I will just try and be happy with the 3 BIC Acoustech Elite series PL 300 with 1400 watt peak power with Tri Tuned Ports and Bass Boost feature for shaking bass down to 15hz ...lol and paid 1600 for all 3 ....tax in and delivered. So in my small room they are all dialed in for music and movies and believe they are performing dam good...( same problem with house shaking and floors etc lol ) Yes I do wonder what the SVS would have sounded in my room and now Tonewinner has some subs but I dont think I want to fork out that kind of money to see how they would perform and being in a small room , they are performing like bigger subs. I have hit peaks on my Sound pressure meter of 116 db which again sound great in my room all bass in tight and not boomy and hard hitting and deep and I wish you could hear it ! But for the money I have spent on the subs I cant complain. Will be waiting for more on the Tonewinner 12 inch Thanks !
Good starter amps!
Great budget subwoofers for those with smaller budgets.
Possible une teste Complet entre le d4000 et le d6000 tous le monde se pose la question en france de le quel choisir pour quel piece ? Petite ou grande et dzutre question mervi barrette
Wow!!!! Gotta Check It Out !!!! I'm Still Stuck On The Arendal Speakers VS Klipsch Speakers Like The Klipsch RC- 64 lll Or The Klipsch RF- 7 lll ??? ESPECIALLY The Sensitivity And Wattage Of Power 🔋 VS Arendal ECT.ECT??? I'm Still I'm Guess Clueless About The Whole Speaker World As A Whole Right?????
I got a question - does this thing have a midbass punch? I didn't see any of the comments asking about that. I understand that this is a 15", not a 18-21 inch driver which will have that for sure. But can a 15 inch driver actually give you a chest slam that you can feel?
It does have pretty decent punch yes. It's pretty sharp and hard hitting for a budget friendly 15" subwoofer.
Great review. I have 1 on order. If it performs as well the ad 7300 amp, I'll be happy.
You will be pleased, this thing is a true beast. It has more output than the SVS PB16 Ultra. I will be releasing a video soon showing this.
Hi, did you happen to make your purchase? What is your review in comparison to Svs or in general? I’m thinking of getting a D6000 myself. Currently using a pb 2000 pro..!!
@RaahulSawhney yes its excellent. Better than my pb3000. Does the opening of edge of tomorrow much better, could create a problem with the pb3000 even tho I had 2. I had to watch my levels.
@@garylethbridge6220 thanks , so how big of an upgrade is it than the pb 3000 if you don’t mind discussing. I’m just a bit hesitant cos not many reviews online other than this channel. And it being Chinese and relatively new into subwoofers as compared to Svs.
Curious, at approximately 1000 dollars cheaper, how much better does it have to be ?
Barrett pleading for a budget 18 inch subwoofer in Canada 😂😅 after having bought Funk Audio subwoofers in the past😂
Lol I sold the Funk because it is just too expensive. I am broke now, I need budget options 😜.
Tonewinner making a good case.
Cool!
I had 2 SVS 12" subs a Plus and an Ultra. As the were all I could afford, I tried to make them work in a 2 channel system to no avail. I wound up selling them a 1/3 the price I paid. Maybe SVS has made them 2 channel compatible, but I'll never know
How about the new Paradigm xr13?
I have reviewed that one already. Fantastic beautiful looking subwoofer, with clean quality bass, but not an output monster.
I bought two of them with more gen2 amps , plus use 120/100 and Avm90, great in my open living room system!!!
Are you planning to review the d8000?
Not at the moment, but I might be reviewing something bigger and badder from them. We'll see.
@@SpecOfTech interesting I thought the D8000 was the biggest and baddest they had so interested to see what's coming
@@diluxethere is a D9000 18" sub.
I will stay with my dual RSL 12S subs.
Cool, enjoy them!
Impressive sub. Do you have a pop filter? When your doing the REW comments the mic must be closer to you so we get lots of pops
I do have a pop filter, I should have used it.
I do have a pop filter, I should have used it.
@SpecOfTech not a big issue I just noticed it. Man I'm tempted replacing my pb-2000s for dual of these I'll wait to see the 12inch ones before as 15 are a bit much don't think my room will like 120db lol
Canadian link not working
I appreciate the heads up. It should be working now.
Tonewinner D8000 review coming anytime soon?
I have some beasts coming from Tonewinner, stay tuned. I won't be doing a review on the D8000 though.
@@SpecOfTech omg are they bringing out some 18s?
@@ShampooTime ...maybe!
@@SpecOfTech zomg i just jizzed my pants...
@@SpecOfTechoh damn. You should review the speakers TJ-K8 and TD-8 and/or TD-2 which ever Aamir has in stock. He sold me the TJ-K8 kit and mostly liked them. I need to give Aamir a quick update on that set.
I don’t see a Tonewinner sub app in the iOS app store 🤷🏻♂️
It's coming, they want to fine tune it before the subwoofers are officially released in North America.
@@SpecOfTechThanks for the info…great review btw. I talked to Aamir and I’ll be ordering a D4000 in a week or so.
@@oahu_al Hi, did you happen to make your purchase? What is your review in comparison to Svs or in general? I’m thinking of getting a D6000 myself. Currently using a pb 2000 pro.
and this was just 1 sub. if they were 2?
Right?! With 2 it would be even more impressive.
Lol why would SVS worry , they are a great brand. Why would they even care. A Ferrari does not care about a mustang does it. It's the fact that you have a SVS, and it plays well. I have a SVS PB4000 I wouldn't by a no name brand I never heard of. I rather pay the money and have something great.
I have had SVS in the past as well, and I like SVS products. Tonewinner is far from a no name brand, though. They are a large manufacturer...probably bigger than SVS. Just an FYI your SVS "Ferrari", gets out performed in all aspects by a large margin by this so called "Mustang" subwoofer. I think you had your cars reversed in your analogy. Thanks for watching.
@SpecOfTech lol I am not about how loud it gets, that's not injoyable, is it? Why would I want to shake my house, have windows rattling their is a limit for a normal person to injoy their music. You can keep your Ford. I'll stick with my Ferrari.
@DKLGalactus5 Performance isn't just about SPL, that was your assumption on what I meant about performance. Yes, the Tonewinner gets louder, but it also out performs the SVS in other ways. I am glad you are a fanboy of SVS, like I said, I have nothing against them. But I am not delusional enough to think they are the best. They aren't even the best at their price point, as proven by Tonewinner. Tonewinner can out perform them for less. You can keep your overpriced product 😉.
P.S. It's spelled enjoy and enjoyable. Just a little tip for your future arguments.
@SpecOfTech is tone winner a cheap Chinese made subwoofer? Is SVS a high quality subwoofer made in the U.S.? Or Canada.
@@DKLGalactus5 You need to educate yourself, SVS is 100% made in China. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Thicc
Is Tone winner a Chinese made cheap subwoofer. The price is cheap.
Oh, the SVS fanboy again. Just an FYI, SVS is 100% made in China. The difference is, you are paying thousands more for your Chinese made SVS product that performs worse than this inexpensive Chinese made product. If you want to spend more for less, that's your right I suppose. You really need to educate yourself before making silly comments.
@SpecOfTech guess your right they start making them in China after the 13 ultra, but I still like my Ferrari, lol.
To some it's not always about how cheap I can get something it's if I want it and willing to pay the price. I can get cheap anytime.
@DKLGalactus5
OMG
If you absolutely have to have the SVS app control or the gloss black finish then more power to you. However when you pass the 1K threshold they have been behind the power curve for years now. If you enjoy overpaying for your performance then that is also your prerogative just don't think everyone else agrees with it.
@m.s.5313 yeah but my Ferrari SVS is great, sounds great, and get a lot of compliments on it
Life is very good with my SVS, how about you?
It seems like paid review.....
The Monolith v2 15 inch is still a better deal
How so? From a pure price perspective or from a performance perspective? Or maybe both?
Love when people drop these comments with no substance to it.
The Monolith is usually priced higher (when not on sale), and it doesn't have bluetooth/app. What exactly makes it better? Have you measured it before and compared them?
@SpecOfTech troll I'm sure you always get 1 or 2 trying to bring you down or gatekeepers
@@taxi615 better performance 14~200 Hz, Amplifier Class D 1000W, THX Certified Ultra, lower price. 5-year replacement warranty on the entire subwoofer. The product is proven and used even for very demanding systems.
I love when people start a discussion and at the same time they're so lazy they don't even bother to check the specs.
Cheap$$$
The price point is a absolute joke for a new brand with almost no credibility and marketshare
Coming in WAY under the SVS competition with better performance is a joke, you're right. But the joke is on the competition for charging their customers outrageous prices for less performance. Competition for larger brands is a good thing.
Hard pass...Made in China...that's all I need to know
Which subs are you using?
@@SpecOfTech Sorry...great review...just disappointing they're made in China...currently running a set of 12" Sonance subs
@chemicallust77 I have just come to the realization that even if an electronic is assembled outside of China, most the internals are made in China anyway. It's just the state our consumer market is in. Sure, I wish there was more manufacturing done in North America, but that won't change until greed changes...and good luck with that. Enjoy the Sonance subs brother...cheers.
lol, everything is made in China 😂
Today svs is overpriced trash
Correct
They are still selling.
Not my experience with the SB1000 Pro. 12 inch driver in a 13 inch sealed box so they fit in a tight space next to my towers. Got a pair for $900 and they sound awesome in my 2 channel setup.
Pretty darn good. Tone winner has some very nice things. If it was you would you get tone winners new $1300 source or a Onkyo z50 or Denon 3800??
I will never go back to Onkyo, I had bad luck with their HDMI boards burning out. I had the Denon 4400 and the Tonewinner sounded quite a bit better, with more clarity and channel separation. If those were my choices, I would choose the Tonewinner.
Why ask the tone winner salesman what product he would buy? What do you think he's going to say?
@@ghostryder8313 If it's the guy making the video, he's not a salesman. He's used anthem, emotiva, Denon, etc.