@Masterjungleninja 23 Mumei said that at the time when there was no anesthetics, they had to improvise. To which Gura added - "A swift punch to the cranium" aka "A light bonk on the head". If you bonk a person in a right way on a right spot on the head, you'll knock them unconscious. Works as make-shift anesthetic.
Ok, so the procedure is called "Symphysiotomy" in which "the cartilage of the pubic symphysis is divided to widen the pelvis allowing childbirth when there is a mechanical problem."... I have to give it to Gura, babies amputations are not as horrible.
@Masterjungleninja 23 Mumei said there was no anaesthetic back then, meaning there was nothing to numb pain. Gura offered a low-tech solution, since unconscious people don't feel their surroundings
For Sana's first guess, at first it also seems kinda weird, why you would need a motorized saw for pizza. But then again...for a Sana sized pizza, a regular pizza cutter probably wouldn't cut it.
@@fuisharu curiosity of a cat + curious nature of a shark + baby chainsaw = a very proud Doom guy At least we know that if this catshark doesn't have anesthetics she'd give em the ol' swift punch to the cranium
To be fair, I think it's good to know the real horror of childbirth at some point regardless of whether we want a child or not. Just so we won't downplay it, especially for men
Gura's answer made a helluva lot more sense. Seriously, I'm pretty sure that C-sections and scalpels existed back in the late 1700's, so how is a chainsaw any better?
@@NoriMori1992 Cartilage is still tricky to cut through. It's tougher than skin and muscle. Not being able to perform the procedure quickly enough may be the difference between life and death for the baby and mother.
@Masterjungleninja 23 The Skull, at the back is where the spine is kinda connected and the spinal cord exits. Punching there has a REALLY good chance of fucking up the Spinal Cord, and thus unaliving you...at best.
Another interesting fact: Back in the day, surgeons, when operating on infants, used no anesthetic at all. Because back then, they believed the newborns still haven't yet developed their nervous system to even feel pain.
"Too yabai even for mumei" around debut there were people who would have gone absolutely insane about this phrase, absolutely livid at the suggestion. Bless Mumei for finally getting people to see the little gremlin she is
Yeah, if Mumei had Ben around as same time as Gura debue maybe that b.s. filing the UA-cam reccomends last year wouldnt have had so many koolade drinkers for better or worse But then again all the Archive Channel's of the canceled by her own community toxic underbelly Gremlin wouldn't exist nor would have her abandoned UA-cam channel or Gura's would have mirrored past 2 million each More recently Shyliliy sounds like Veibae and there are compilers that like having everyone singing the same song and Al 40,50,60 anime girls sing the song alike😏
I love the Mumei & Gura dynamic. Its funny, cause with Gura & Calli you get a littel sister/ big sister vibe, but with Mumei they are so alike, to the point of even sounding alike at time, I've taken to calling them the twins. They're like twin sisters that have lived apart and had different lives, but some how still have so many similar experiances and mannerisms that can only be explained by them being twins and it's hilarious in of itself.
For a model of chainsaw that more closely resembles what we use today, the origin was dentistry. This was about 40 years after the childbirth chainsaw.
@@code0335 medical practices were REALLY hardcore back in the day, and honestly they still are considering a lot of....stuff and techniques they still use these days.
Tfw: Gura's unsaid thoughts are far scarier then Mumie's voiced thoughts. I'd also like to point out, gura is the only person to have ever made Mumei double take, or even surprise her.
Technically this was the only stream she joined recently, the other ones was her stream originally and invited the others. If it is only minecraft in the last 6 months she said she doesn't like playing alone.
"Sadly, I cannot determine which of you is the real mother of this baby. So I'll solve the issue... WITH BABY AMPUTATION!" - Gura when she had to stand in for King Solomon, probably
Remember when Gura and Mumei were just chasing eachother down in minecraft speaking broken spanish and crying over a carved pumpkin? How did we end up here o . O
"but there was no anaesthetic back in the day" *a swift punch in the cranium* that was such a unexpected response. gura's brain is just built diff compared to us mortals
In rare cases during natural childbirth, a bit of cartilage which is meant to bend to make an opening won't bend enough. This leads to the baby getting stuck and possibly starting to suffocate. A scalpel would take far too long to cut through something as tough as cartilage to save the baby, and the mother would also likely die if the operation took too long. The lack of proper anesthetic at the time would also make an attempt with something as weak as a scalpel incredibly painful for the mother. For this reason, there was a hand-spun chainsaw only slightly larger than a scalpel capable of more quickly cutting through cartilage too free the baby and allow the birthing process to continue with minimal risk of casualty. While the cartilage wouldn't heal, the incision could mostly heal with proper treatment. C-sections did exist at the time, but they were a last resort since they were usually fatal.
0:38 "Wait, for babies?!" I thought that was Mumei, which was weird since she should know the answer. So I replayed it a few more times before realising it was Gura. Same thing again at 0:41. These two sound scarily alike to my ears.
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"A swift punch to the cranium" whoa calm dowm Gura, even Mumei got surprised
Definitely a good candidate for baby sitting.
@isaacFTWful just don't sleep for too long tho, i hear that's bad for you
super bad for you
@Masterjungleninja 23 Mumei said that at the time when there was no anesthetics, they had to improvise.
To which Gura added - "A swift punch to the cranium" aka "A light bonk on the head".
If you bonk a person in a right way on a right spot on the head, you'll knock them unconscious.
Works as make-shift anesthetic.
Fascinating how there's a need to explain what a knock out punch is.
@@user-FucXYou just a little help for the guy since he prob doesn't speak English... or he's Canadian
This conversation really went places, DARK places....
Yes. Especially the blood of the mothers
With Mumei around, the possibility is always there.
Well, with the help of the baby chainsaw, the baby can now go to bright places!
dark, or bright because chainsaws were saving the lives of both mother and child.
Love how Sana just went silent until the end with an 'oh no.'
*orr norr
Gura and Mumei conversation was so absurd that even the universe was speechless 💀
Ok, so the procedure is called "Symphysiotomy" in which "the cartilage of the pubic symphysis is divided to widen the pelvis allowing childbirth when there is a mechanical problem."... I have to give it to Gura, babies amputations are not as horrible.
I thought it was "Caesarean section"
Without this explanation, I thought Gura made it worse.
With the explanation, I don't know who is worse...
@@rexdev4489 In caesar you cut stomach no pussy
*NERD*
Man I hate you... Lol
Gura's "a swift punch to the cranium" made me do the nervous laugh, omg
@Masterjungleninja 23 You hit them in the head very hard so they pass out
@Masterjungleninja 23 Mumei said there was no anaesthetic back then, meaning there was nothing to numb pain. Gura offered a low-tech solution, since unconscious people don't feel their surroundings
Punching babies, lel
@Masterjungleninja 23 you need a swift punch to the cranium
Gura and Mumei are very unique and that is why I love them.
And Sana was just like “I’m just gonna take a back seat on this one…”
Wait, they are different people?
@@transformersrevenge9 all them are yagoo
Both are equal parts adorable and horrifying.
For Sana's first guess, at first it also seems kinda weird, why you would need a motorized saw for pizza. But then again...for a Sana sized pizza, a regular pizza cutter probably wouldn't cut it.
For a Santa sized pizza, you think a chainsaw would do the trick?
Given how badly pizza is cut nowadays... Chainsaw pizza cutter would be an improvement
@@athras8822 You need to play some more Warhammer 40k.
Clearly that's how they cut pizza in the outback.
I've just noticed that "a regular pizza cutter probably wouldn't cut it" is a pun...
The 'oh no' at the end had me rolling
Oh nawwr
Oh nyo
Damn, this went from super yabai to even further beyond informative yabai. Thank you for the information Mumei, very cool.
Nah fam, it's from the curiosity of a cat to Doom guy's closet forbidden entrance
@@fuisharu curiosity of a cat + curious nature of a shark + baby chainsaw = a very proud Doom guy
At least we know that if this catshark doesn't have anesthetics she'd give em the ol' swift punch to the cranium
@@justinyu5892 aight, now I'm scared
Were your neurons activated this time?
What can we say,these girls go full plus ultra in their streams,
I could have lived another day without this information, Mumei.
This info gave me a REALLY gross thought and now I'm afraid to sleep on it because BRAIN LOVES TO FVCK WITH YOU WHEN YOU SLEEP! I'm really sleepy! 😭😱
Your watching a mumei stream f r i e n d.
@@BlameCo Y O U ' R E *
To be fair, I think it's good to know the real horror of childbirth at some point regardless of whether we want a child or not. Just so we won't downplay it, especially for men
Gura's answer made a helluva lot more sense. Seriously, I'm pretty sure that C-sections and scalpels existed back in the late 1700's, so how is a chainsaw any better?
Nurse: Doctor!, we cannot receive the baby, its stuck!
Doctor: No problem! Bring me the chainsaw!!~ *Brrrrrrrrrrrr
It was for when the baby got wedged part way. They would cut apart the cartilage in the mother's pelvis in order to allow more, uh, movement...
@@eruantien9932 We understand that (I think). OP's question (I think) is why that required something as extreme as a chainsaw.
C-section used to have horrible mortality rate, so much that literally using a chainsaw to break open the mother's pelvis was safer
@@NoriMori1992 Cartilage is still tricky to cut through. It's tougher than skin and muscle. Not being able to perform the procedure quickly enough may be the difference between life and death for the baby and mother.
Yabainess Levels: Mumei wheezing the phrase "Oh my god". _Mumei._
Every collab mumei and gura has convinces me further that they really are the same in more ways than their voices.
I go by the theory these two are cousins of twin parents.
A swift punch to cranium can unalive a person so basically cant feel any pain if you is unalive
@Masterjungleninja 23 The Skull, at the back is where the spine is kinda connected and the spinal cord exits. Punching there has a REALLY good chance of fucking up the Spinal Cord, and thus unaliving you...at best.
Gura: "I can use my brain for the rest." Everyone else: "Have you seen what's come out of that brain?
"
Have you seen what shape that brain is?
The way Gura constructs what to say with her amazing vocabulary is always entertaining.
Another interesting fact: Back in the day, surgeons, when operating on infants, used no anesthetic at all. Because back then, they believed the newborns still haven't yet developed their nervous system to even feel pain.
Another disturbing fact, even all the way up to 1986 was anathesia not used on babies for surgery. Though the practice started to spread in the 1930s.
@@RazielTheStray Just mild discomfort from being chainsawed. Nothing serious. Continue the operation.
That was a comforting lie they told themselves, because trying to aenesthetize an infant was _way too bloody dangerous._
Reading this fact makes me not want to have my future child circumcised
"Are you feeling pain, infant?"
"WAAAAH"
"That's normal, babies cry all the time."
I keep loving how Mumei, who thinks she's the weird one, keeps getting weirded out by Gura. ^_^
"Too yabai even for mumei" around debut there were people who would have gone absolutely insane about this phrase, absolutely livid at the suggestion. Bless Mumei for finally getting people to see the little gremlin she is
0:35 Mumei does really sounds like Gura there....
Yeah, if Mumei had Ben around as same time as Gura debue maybe that b.s. filing the UA-cam reccomends last year wouldnt have had so many koolade drinkers for better or worse
But then again all the Archive Channel's of the canceled by her own community toxic underbelly Gremlin wouldn't exist nor would have her abandoned UA-cam channel or Gura's would have mirrored past 2 million each
More recently Shyliliy sounds like Veibae and there are compilers that like having everyone singing the same song and Al 40,50,60 anime girls sing the song alike😏
@@FrarmerFrank ..... what?
@@yudhaadrian47 i have no idea
@@FrarmerFrank did you stroke out? Did I stroke out? Someone has stroken out.
@@dragenfire68 I did reading it
Boy...that escalated quickly.
I love the Mumei & Gura dynamic. Its funny, cause with Gura & Calli you get a littel sister/ big sister vibe, but with Mumei they are so alike, to the point of even sounding alike at time, I've taken to calling them the twins. They're like twin sisters that have lived apart and had different lives, but some how still have so many similar experiances and mannerisms that can only be explained by them being twins and it's hilarious in of itself.
“A swift punch to the cranium” better stick around as a god tier goomba quote
For a model of chainsaw that more closely resembles what we use today, the origin was dentistry. This was about 40 years after the childbirth chainsaw.
I'm on Sana side of "oh no" here
@@code0335 medical practices were REALLY hardcore back in the day, and honestly they still are considering a lot of....stuff and techniques they still use these days.
Gura's internet knowledge runs pretty deep. I wouldn't be surprised if she's seen a chainsaw execution or two. Her mind went there almost immediately.
1:14 first time I ever heard mumei being shocked like that.
This was like the most messed up episode of Lucky Star, except instead food, they're talking about horrific, old medical procedures.
Gura and Mumei
Truly are twins
0:41 Sounds surprisingly cute when Gura says it.
A year late, but that's what scares me about her.
Imagine she threatens you in that cute tone of voice, only she means it.
Dear god, now I'm just picturing Doom Guy in a maternity ward or whatever the hospital zone for child birth is called.
Tfw: Gura's unsaid thoughts are far scarier then Mumie's voiced thoughts.
I'd also like to point out, gura is the only person to have ever made Mumei double take, or even surprise her.
I understand Gura. Back when I had to get my baby cut off of me I also thought they were going to be using a tiny chainsaw.
I don't wanna know if you were too young or way too ignorant at that time
Is this sarcasm? 🤔
Ididn't expect to be traumatized today, yet, here I am......
The thought of where the chainsaw originally was used is enough to make my body feel pain. Especially when considering there was no anesthetic
_Gawr_ "a swift punch to the cranium / baby amputations" Gura
T-shirt let's go!
When discussing this, it feels like many people don't realize just how absolutely tiny the original chainsaw was.
Mumei: I can shock them with something really dark!
Gura: Hold my baby food...
Why do I feel like Gura is a special NPC now? occasionally joining others stream and have amazing conversation.
Technically this was the only stream she joined recently, the other ones was her stream originally and invited the others. If it is only minecraft in the last 6 months she said she doesn't like playing alone.
"You somehow made it worse." 🤣🤣🤣🤣 killed me
This sounds like something straight out of a horror movie, yet somehow it's real life...
Gura is hilarious as fuck. Love her morbid jokes. It speaks to me
Excellent video. That stream was so fun and entertaiment.
"Sadly, I cannot determine which of you is the real mother of this baby. So I'll solve the issue... WITH BABY AMPUTATION!" - Gura when she had to stand in for King Solomon, probably
Gura finally said something so yabai that Mumei's voice dropped a couple octaves from sheer shock.
The first time I’ve ever said, “Oh my god, Gura.” I guess I haven’t really been paying attention.
Gura demonstrating to Mumei why sharks are the apex predator and not owls.
My mind WENT EXACTLY the same, strange direction that Gura's thought process went. /nod in approval.
Baby Amputations sounds like the name of a heavy metal band.
All the memes about Mumei being a closet murderer are starting to make sense. Lmao 🤣
Gura horrified Mumei with her imagination.
Then Mumei horrified Gura with the truth.
**expecting mother panics as she sees chainsaw maniac**
doctor: no no, its okay. we keep chainsaw maniacs on retainer for procedures now
I mean, Gura's not wrong. That does seem even more insane and gruesome than baby amputations, lol.
"A swift punch to the cranium"
Gura answer was a surprise, a surprise that even mumei is shock with... sasuga sea predator
Yo Gura wtf...
but again baby sharks are already brutal so yea
Welp, that was interesting. Learned something new today.
“A swift punch to the cranium,” Gura said.
ahh, so this is the context.
imagine just tuning into a stream and the first thing you hear is baby amputation
Gosh I love all their reactions
Sana is so cute, that ending
Thank you mumei for this information
Now where did I put my bleach
We need this animated!
Gura is my fucking hero. . .
a swift punch to cranium just cause concusion, now i got headache even know i just kinda bopping my head
Remember when Gura and Mumei were just chasing eachother down in minecraft speaking broken spanish and crying over a carved pumpkin? How did we end up here o . O
"but there was no anaesthetic back in the day"
*a swift punch in the cranium*
that was such a unexpected response. gura's brain is just built diff compared to us mortals
@Masterjungleninja 23 Your question has been answered several times already, bud.
@Masterjungleninja 23 Doesn't change the fact that you still asked the same question on several different occasions.
The "baby amputation" dialogue has the same energy as the "A knife! NO!" video
This reminds me of one of the recent Dankula Videos, the one with the Doc Madlad.
For a second my mind went: “to blend the baby so it comes out easier?”
Now, think about this when watching the Chainsaw Man anime when it comes out.
Poor Fauna just trying to play some Minecraft, and stuck between the two yabais.
I actually knew this fact, I think I came across it in a Short about a month ago XD
Poor Sana being stuck between Gura's cursed guess and Mumei's cursed knowledge.
I love Mumei's trivias because same LMAO
Fun facts with Mumei!!! Civilization is really a wonderful thing.
you know gura answer is messed up when even the owl herself thinks that messed up
Gura been hitting those Cannibal Corpse albums huh?
When you somehow manage to disturb even the psychopath
Gura is the only hololive member that can say "Baby amputation" in a cheerful manner.
I agree with Gura here. How is that better than baby amputation??
In rare cases during natural childbirth, a bit of cartilage which is meant to bend to make an opening won't bend enough. This leads to the baby getting stuck and possibly starting to suffocate. A scalpel would take far too long to cut through something as tough as cartilage to save the baby, and the mother would also likely die if the operation took too long. The lack of proper anesthetic at the time would also make an attempt with something as weak as a scalpel incredibly painful for the mother. For this reason, there was a hand-spun chainsaw only slightly larger than a scalpel capable of more quickly cutting through cartilage too free the baby and allow the birthing process to continue with minimal risk of casualty. While the cartilage wouldn't heal, the incision could mostly heal with proper treatment. C-sections did exist at the time, but they were a last resort since they were usually fatal.
Completing Mumei's idea
"... They would cut the baby in half horizontally and then stitch it back together" :)
De hecho, antes hubo un tiempo en el que no les aplicaban anestesia a los bebés por qué pensaban que no sentían dolor XD
''OK stop, I can usey brain for the rest''
Big brain shark moment
i miss an hour ago when i didn't know this thing exist
Gura being the prime example as to why Atlantis had to be destroyed
0:38 "Wait, for babies?!"
I thought that was Mumei, which was weird since she should know the answer.
So I replayed it a few more times before realising it was Gura.
Same thing again at 0:41.
These two sound scarily alike to my ears.
"Pelvic Pulveriser"
Mumei is like "take a walk on the dark side with me and learn horrible truths that were best left forgotten."
I’ll never look at a chainsaw the same way again
Cesarean section... With a _CHAINSAW!_
I could've gone without knowing that.
That gasp from Gura is so good haha
'Baby amputations' Since I had my extra finger removed at age 1, I feel that.
Hence why Devils afraid of the Chainsaw Man
Shit went 0 to 100 real quick
Lol gura
I remember reading that people thought babies didn’t feel pain back then.
Bro I’m playing a fighting game and I lost cause I was dying at “swift punch to the cranium”
@Masterjungleninja 23 punch the baby in the head
Good ol' Gawr "Baby Puncher" Gura
0:41 ...to be fair, that's exactly what I thought too