Falconry: Ferruginous- hawk or eagle?

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  • Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
  • This falconry video reviews the history and discussion about whether or not the Ferruginous should be classified as a type of eagle instead of a hawk. Originally the Ferruginous was classified as "Aquila regalis" rather than Buteo regalis" And although the Ferruginous is clearly taxonomically classed as a buteo, the non taxonomic definitions of what constitutes an eagle are surprisingly broad, leading many to debate if this large raptor should be considered a small prairie eagle. This video discusses the points in the argument.
    Please note, in this video I often incorrectly use the term "Family" to mean "Genus". This is a slip up I often make. I regularly give live animal presentations to people who are not well versed in taxonomy, and the accompanying terminology. In these presentations I often use the term "Family" to mean a closely related group of organisms, typically a genus, in a way that those not familiar with taxonomy can wrap their head around easily. But in this video I accidentally slip back and for between the term Genus and Family. In both cases the intended meaning is "Genus".
    Photo credits on the snake eagles go to Charles J. Sharp and Robert Muckley.
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  • @dlaughlin9
    @dlaughlin9 3 роки тому +13

    Very interesting. Ferruginous Hawk-Eagle sounds dope to me. Very excited to try soar hawking a Ferrug with my Saluki (sighthound) here in southern Colorado.

  • @Ran-vm7fu
    @Ran-vm7fu 3 роки тому +7

    Fascinating, Ben. Again, thanks so much. I really love the in-depth discussions on the various species, brings me closer to them even though I may never get to personally be involved with them. I do have a short connection to the Ferruginous though, my sponsor was flying one for the first year of my apprenticeship and I must say at that time I didn't know anything about them. Big, crazy bird, hard to manage.. kinda scary. But she had inherited the bird from another falconer and I believe she ended up giving it back. Beautiful creature though.
    As for taxonomy vs. common names. This is a pretty common situation. Common names can be anything and not even related to the scientific name. Take for instance, the common Badger Pidgeon! I thought I was gonna die :-) But this is pretty common, can be regional to a pretty small area, like only on the west coast or east coast, etc. I grew up in the world of insects. My father was an amateur entomologist. Insects are common named in every different region of the US. There are many examples. However, the taxonomic names are frequently changed as well. Over the years, many of the scientific names that I grew up with have been changed to the point I don't know which to use anymore.. so I kinda think that all the taxonomy is kinda irrelevant almost. It'll change! Especially as more dna work is done.
    One of the things I think really interferes with and confuses the point is the term, True Eagles, or True Hawks. Personally, I think we could do away with this label and just say that there are different genus or sub genus of hawks and eagles and call it a day. However, I am not a taxonomist and I don't know why they have labeled them so. Possibly just so they could create this confusion and they could come to the rescue and set us all straight. Scientists are a odd lot. Can't wait for the next vid..
    Cheers

  • @ulloas
    @ulloas 3 роки тому +5

    Cool video. Very open discussion and openness to debate. Something we don't often see on the web. Very good to see a falconers presenting ideias open mindedly.

  • @maryamorales1409
    @maryamorales1409 2 роки тому +4

    Was just watching this, fascinating. And thinking about them as a first general falconer bird, I recently was finally upgraded to general falconer. They seem very different and am trying to learn all I can about them. How about American Iron Eagle

  • @americansharpy
    @americansharpy 3 роки тому +2

    I was with Darryl when a Ferrug took a swipe at his white Gos. Beebe had some fascinating things to say about the Ferrug, thanks for posting this video

  • @Primenumber19
    @Primenumber19 3 роки тому +5

    As a professional writer I sympathize with your struggle against the illogical nature of the English language. Drives me insane on a daily basis.

  • @f2mel2
    @f2mel2 2 роки тому +1

    I've seen one twice, once in Chula Vista Ca. and once in Ramona Ca. Their glide is like a slow-motion film clip. Sibley stated or wrote, I don't remember, that hawks watch their back while feeding and eagles don't. (Nice Jim Gaffigan impression )

  • @keerthivasannambiraju955
    @keerthivasannambiraju955 9 місяців тому +1

    The Black-chested buzzard eagle has since been reclassified into its own genus, Geranoaetus. Like the buteogallus, This genus has two birds that are called hawks but one is called an eagle. The other two species are often placed in the buteo genus but since have been reclassified. These three birds look very similar to each other and you can see that, the problem is that the short tailed hawk looks similar to them and it is considered a buteo plus there are two birds in Africa that look similar to these three, the jackal buzzard and the augur buzzard and they are considered buteos too.

  • @sampfotenhauer536
    @sampfotenhauer536 Рік тому

    This reminds me of the discussion in fishing around what qualifies as a “true bass.”

  • @kevinmcnamara6723
    @kevinmcnamara6723 3 роки тому +2

    Hi just found your Chanel and I am a falconer I own a golden and a steppe now but when I was younger I had a ferrugionus the only thing that let him down was his small feet .

  • @jordynmorris6153
    @jordynmorris6153 3 роки тому +1

    Would love to see a video about telemetry, different types, new technology and different ways to mount it.

  • @mikedun8882
    @mikedun8882 2 роки тому +1

    Also when you talk about booted, the rough legged "hawk" comes to mind also.

  • @m.alanjenkins4792
    @m.alanjenkins4792 Рік тому +1

    I'm a falconer of many years experience, I have Bachelor (USU-1966) and Master of Science degrees in Zoology (BYU-1974) and a career of 33 years as a raptor biologist with 24 scientific papers published in the peer-reviewed scientific press or in books. First, words like "buzzard", "hawk", and eagle" are vernacular words that change with time, for example when the birds called "buzzards" in Britain became known as "hawks" in America.
    Your statements about what are "buzzards" and "eagles" are your opinions. At the present time the American ornithological scientific community has standardized the common English names of American birds and Buteo regalis (the scientific Latin name should be printed in Italics, but Facebook does not support that font) is the Ferruginous Hawk (note the capitalization of both names). You focus in on the booted character of the Ferruginous Hawk to call it an eagle, but would you defend the name of Rough-legged Eagle on the basis of it being booted? The scientific names of birds are based on their evolutionary connections. for example, current evidence shows that the genus Falco is more related to parrots than to other raptor species.
    Lastly, you used the word "genuses" whereas the correct plural for "genus" is "genera".

  • @viveviveka2651
    @viveviveka2651 2 роки тому +1

    I tried a UA-cam search for "buzzard." Apparently the word is used quite differently in the US compared with England. In the US it often means "vulture." There are multiple videos in which the "buzzard" being referred to is some type of vulture, usually a turkey vulture.

  • @voclametal
    @voclametal 3 роки тому +1

    Great information Ben, thanks.

  • @Sardonic_Cynic
    @Sardonic_Cynic 3 роки тому +4

    my thought: the word 'eagle' is about as useful as a vanity plate on a minvan and means about as much

  • @StanEby1
    @StanEby1 2 роки тому

    After all that, you end with "happy hawking?" Ha. Watched this with my grandson who is 15, and thoroughly enjoyed it.

  • @Toothandtalon
    @Toothandtalon 3 роки тому +2

    Glad to see my girl made it in this video!

  • @kevinomara5030
    @kevinomara5030 3 роки тому +1

    I think foot adaptations are a good indicator where species diversified. I haven’t researched Ferruginous, but it sounds like they need their own classification.

  • @Toothandtalon
    @Toothandtalon 3 роки тому +1

    Stoked to finally see this!

    • @benwoodrufffalconry
      @benwoodrufffalconry  3 роки тому

      Still need to make the big ferrugie video. And we need to record the release podcast about your experience flying her and releasing her

    • @Toothandtalon
      @Toothandtalon 3 роки тому +1

      @@benwoodrufffalconry I’ll get you some stock footage of my Ferruginous as well. You can use it for the next Ferruginous vid

    • @Ran-vm7fu
      @Ran-vm7fu 3 роки тому

      @@Toothandtalon Got yourself a ferruginous already, eh? What is your plan if there are no rabbits?
      Good luck

    • @Toothandtalon
      @Toothandtalon 3 роки тому +1

      @@Ran-vm7fu duck

    • @dlaughlin9
      @dlaughlin9 3 роки тому

      @@Toothandtalon Hells yeah. I’m concerned about the rabbit populations in Colorado as well. Are you going to hunt from the fist? Had no idea Ferrugs were fast enough

  • @Ashley.falcon
    @Ashley.falcon Рік тому

    My friend flew one of the african hawk eagles when Dave first imported the birds. Even before then we always considered the ferruginous as the “American hawk eagle”. There’s no reason why it shouldn’t be classified as one. Fun video

  • @jfreid3174
    @jfreid3174 3 роки тому +2

    I like Prairie Eagle.. great name

  • @cordycepted4911
    @cordycepted4911 3 роки тому +1

    A lot of the naming in the scientific community, especially the ornithological community is just a mess. The labels the ICZN dictate to identify organisms are often flawed, and not just in their inaccuracies in understanding how organisms are genetically related (honorific/eponymous names are problematic). Why do we call scarlet tanagers “tanagers” if they are not closely related to the genus Thraupidae, the true tanagers? Why do we call both evening grosbeaks (fringilliade) and blue grosbeaks (Cardinalidae) “grosbeaks” when the two are not closely related? There are SO many examples of this. Good to be aware of. Thanks for the video

  • @outdoordoug8588
    @outdoordoug8588 3 роки тому +1

    The harp is like like a turkey 🦃 flying through the sky😂😂😂

  • @englishbiblereadings6036
    @englishbiblereadings6036 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent. The problem with vernacular language from a scientific perspective is that terms become accepted through useage.

  • @jw841
    @jw841 3 роки тому +3

    Just curious. Wouldn't Ferruginous Eagle Buzzard be more accurate than Ferruginous Buzzard Eagle? Because its a eagle like buzzard and not a buzzard like eagle. But I do think the later sounds better.

    • @benwoodrufffalconry
      @benwoodrufffalconry  3 роки тому +1

      Yep you have a really good point! That would definitely be more accurate

    • @jw841
      @jw841 3 роки тому

      @@benwoodrufffalconry Thanks Ben. Big fan of your videos. Just thinking we could take inspiration from names like the Philippines Monkey-eating Eagle and call the Ferruginous the Great American Bunny-eating Eagle Hawk. Yes a mouthful but still cool. Just kidding :)

    • @jw841
      @jw841 3 роки тому

      @Shay Ogun Haha fair enough :) Any suggestions?

  • @robertsteel108
    @robertsteel108 3 роки тому +1

    Ben, l have hunted a few ferruginous buzzards in Scotland and a few true eagles goldi and stepp. You definitely need to fly them free either slope soaringly or waiting on like an eagle. Off the fist at bolted game successful flights are few and far between. I could only manage 1 kill every 3 or 4 day’s as it had eaten nearly a hole rabbit in 30 seconds flat. They all always opened up the belly cavity first and devoured the liver stomach and entrails before eating the meat. Excellent video. Ps hope they don’t call it an eagle the price for a captive bread bird would double 👍

  • @keerthivasannambiraju955
    @keerthivasannambiraju955 Рік тому

    There might be a reason why the term buzzard is used for a new world vulture. Buzzard is a roadside slang for a grumpy old man in England which is unfortunate.

  • @thom5255
    @thom5255 Рік тому

    What about the black and chestnut hawkeagle?

  • @lohikarhu734
    @lohikarhu734 3 роки тому +1

    Great big hawk... ;-) Or, is it a 'Wide-mouthed Bass Eagle" ... great video, leaves me with no opinion, at all !! Keep well, you-all!

  • @Scottmcgregor96
    @Scottmcgregor96 2 роки тому

    your argument has convinced me that the Ferruginous buzzard should be called the Ferruginous buzzard eagle but although I now agree I think if you going to change the name of the bird then you would need to think about changing the names of its closest relatives like the Upland buzzard, Rough legged buzzard and the long legged buzzard to buzzard eagle aswell or at least the first two.

  • @keerthivasannambiraju955
    @keerthivasannambiraju955 Рік тому

    There are many birds of prey that are called eagles and it's not just because of taxonomy. There are the booted eagles, sea eagles, snake eagles and serpent eagles and the giant forest eagles plus members of the buteogallus and geranoaetus. The African Crowned Eagle, Martial Eagle, Indian Black Eagle, Long Crested Eagle are monotypic but they are members of the booted eagle family. But it is not just members of the Aquila genus that are called eagles and since Aquila eagles and sea eagles are closely related to the Buteos I consider it the Ferruginous Eagle. After all the ice age era Woodward's eagle which is one of the Largest Eagles to have ever lived is found to be related to the buteogallus genus so it is basically a gigantic black hawk much like the Crested solitary eagle, the Montane solitary eagle. Plus the names haven't been changed but have been added on

  • @malc1730
    @malc1730 2 роки тому

    Very interesting would love to have seen the haaste Eagle and what it was like

  • @terryhuggett3799
    @terryhuggett3799 2 роки тому

    I was on the understanding that a true Eagle dribbles an having ferrugies they too dribble so I've always thought of them as small eagles

  • @Ty_Ty11
    @Ty_Ty11 2 роки тому +1

    it should be called a ferruginous hawk eagle or eagle hawk or ferruginous steppe eagle

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    In Dickson Tennessee.

  • @viveviveka2651
    @viveviveka2651 2 роки тому

    I looked up the slang meanings of "buzzard." They include "a greedy, contemptible person" - more ore less the equivalent of "vulture" in slang.
    There's also "old buzzard," which is a little different.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    The name of the sooty falcon I seen at the Tracy averie is lightning.

  • @pistooli1
    @pistooli1 2 роки тому

    Just call it a Ferruginous, cause that's what it is, I don't care what other people call them........ Many years ago in England I flew two females, they handle high winds with ease. I also bred them. Now I live in Saskatchewan Canada, and often see them , I know where they nest. I love them

  • @missingbone1
    @missingbone1 Рік тому

    I just think the name correct but incomplete and you simply need to add eagle to ferruginouse hawk so it's a hawk eagle.

  • @keerthivasannambiraju955
    @keerthivasannambiraju955 Рік тому

    Ferruginous Hawks are still smaller than Steppe Eagles. The Biggest Ferruginous Hawk on record has a wingspan of 6 feet while the Biggest Steppe Eagle on record has a wingspan of 8 FEET! They are more on par with Bald Eagles and Golden Eagles in size.

  • @keerthivasannambiraju955
    @keerthivasannambiraju955 11 місяців тому

    Ferruginous hawks are not related to either the Upland buzzard and Long-legged buzzard whatsoever. The closest relative of the Ferruginous is the Rough-legged hawk/Rough-legged buzzard. Both these birds form a primitive lineage that old world buzzards branched off from much earlier. But these birds look incredibly different. Ferruginous hawks are built like a street fighter, they have big heads, big mouths, big body but Relatively Undersized wings and tail plus undersized toes in your opinion. According to Wikipedia, Their feet are the largest of any buzzard so you are kinda making fun of it here.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    So is office Depot.

  • @theworldofbirds9547
    @theworldofbirds9547 3 роки тому

    I have one question that is the Philippine eagle more closely related to the snake eagles or the Aquila eagles? I am asking this because on Wikipedia I saw that the Philippine eagle was placed in the snake eagle subfamily(circaetinae ).

  • @alexharshman7025
    @alexharshman7025 2 роки тому +1

    Man i dont even know now. I kind of always went with size, falcons=small fast and nimble swooping into trees and snatching little sparrows mid flight. Hawks=medium sized gliders that circle and catch what they call thermals to gain altitude and save energy, (and this is where it gets grey) not sure if they just swoop low and glide in a straight line to catch food. Size going on, vultures=seem bigger than both 'hawks' and for sure falcons + scavengers, and to top that off crows or black birds get so big theyre the size of vultures and tend to glide as well (because cardio i guess). Eagle i think is more like yeah big tough bird or just a king of the food chain and been around for a long time. Absolutely nothing technical about common names and if i hadn't watched your videos id never know, its not like national geographic wants us to know

  • @EvaRadio
    @EvaRadio 3 роки тому +1

    I'm totally fine with it being called a "hawk" since you need additional years of training to be an eagle falconer on top of being a master hawk falconer, so lets just leave it and I can tell myself I'm an eagle falconer once I hunt with a ferruginous hawk lol

  • @keerthivasannambiraju955
    @keerthivasannambiraju955 Рік тому

    Funny fact is buzzard is a french word that means "hawk" while buteo means buzzard im greek so what goes around either goes around or comes round which ever way you look at it!.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    The ferrugnouse is hawk eagle as far as aquila its parabeato like Harris hawk Harris hawk is also a certain type of hawk eagle parabeuto it is near beato ferrugnouse is near beato as well.

  • @hubrisnaut
    @hubrisnaut 3 роки тому

    I want to know the taxonomy but I'll use whatever words other people understand. I have a question. Has anyone hunted with an osprey? I live in Maine and they are common in the summer here (I assume it is Pandion haliaetus carolinensis.). I love to spend time in the wild and go fishing regularly. They are not shy and I have seen them take fish on many occasions. Some were fairly close, a few hundred feet away. It is quite a sight.

    • @benwoodrufffalconry
      @benwoodrufffalconry  3 роки тому +2

      Apparently there is a book out called “Ospreys in falconry”. I have not read it, but I think it is the only publication out on them. I have worked with them a little in rehab and Manning a non releasable rehab bird that was going out to an educator, but I have never tried training one beyond that. I have hear over the years, stories of people who have tried it. But I think it is pretty much an open blank canvas to be tried.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    Ok Latin names and taxonomy in my world isn't my thinking a red tail hawk and a gos hawk are both hawks one is accippter and one is beato and ferrugnouse is a parabeato for that Harris ferrugnouse you could say Farris witch makes a very important hybrid yite well natured person that knows good always wins so I post stuff.

  • @orphydianwildlife473
    @orphydianwildlife473 3 роки тому

    Do you happened to know someone hunting with the Common Buzzard Buteo Buteo, our old world bird? I know they have small claws but they can be quite big

    • @shanecrimmins87
      @shanecrimmins87 Рік тому

      They used to be very popular in the UK for that I believe, the females are probably best for rabbits and stuff as they should be more confident. Apparently they do naturally hunt them.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    The ferrugnouse is eagle if was a hawk eagle or booted eagle there be other hawk eagles and booted eagles in the erea of was the only eagle in the erea than you could say it's booted or hawk eagle it's either same eagle as bold eagle or golden eagle obviusley its equila.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    If you look at golden eagle Harris hawk hybrids some of the hybrids are booted and some of them are not and I seen pitcher of a harpy eagle some of them are booted.

  • @MJ-ct3gv
    @MJ-ct3gv Рік тому

    Do Ferruginous Hawks mate with Red-Tailed Hawks?

    • @benwoodrufffalconry
      @benwoodrufffalconry  Рік тому +1

      They have been crossed in captivity. They likely have in the wild too. Redtail X roughleg hybrids are much more common in the wild.

    • @MJ-ct3gv
      @MJ-ct3gv Рік тому

      @@benwoodrufffalconry Thanks so much for responding! I love your videos and they are so helpful. I also have been wondering for awhile also why I see blue green coloring on Red Tail Hawks beaks but haven't seen it on others yet.
      Also seeing variations in eye color has been interesting.

  • @missingbone1
    @missingbone1 Рік тому

    Ornate is complex pattern.keys all I am mixed together and stream lined and ends fighting with myselve.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 10 місяців тому

    I'm staying out this one but eventually things will settle and every thing up in the air will land and it will stop moveing forward and things will calm down and be back to what ever is there to be to.

  • @viveviveka2651
    @viveviveka2651 2 роки тому

    Ferruginous Hawk-Eagle or Ferruginous Hawk. "Buzzard" is not a good word to my ear. (Born and raised in US, used to be a falconer.) It has negative and dismissive connotations. Like a lowdown scavenger or something. Almost like calling someone a vulture.

  • @keerthivasannambiraju955
    @keerthivasannambiraju955 Рік тому

    The biggest member of the snake eagle serpent eagle family is actually the Philippine eagle.

  • @68markyb
    @68markyb 3 роки тому +1

    Here in my part of the UK Im in we refer to them as Ferruginous rough legged buzzard

  • @Saif_msms
    @Saif_msms Рік тому

    What about Bonellis ? Are they true eagles ?

    • @benwoodrufffalconry
      @benwoodrufffalconry  Рік тому

      Taxonomic ally I believe they are still classified as a true Aquila eagle.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    I grew up a avid falconer with no car and I spent alout time around power poles and I have radio active powers from like spider man.

  • @crisitansardina9595
    @crisitansardina9595 3 роки тому

    I thought the Philippine eagle was a serpent eagle?

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    Ferrugnouse is hawk eagle Harris hawk spawk is hawk eagle kestrels are falcon eagle and sooty falcons are smaller and hit harder.

  • @viveviveka2651
    @viveviveka2651 2 роки тому

    "Ferruginous Eagle" is also good.

  • @ChecoKings
    @ChecoKings 3 роки тому

    Make a video about ther harpy and why is not a true eagle, its more like a giant hawk

  • @Jacy-gi1re
    @Jacy-gi1re 9 місяців тому

    Ok pergrine isn't a malar stripe it's hood a hood is under 200 people ok a malar stripe is a kestrel or prarie falcon oplanado ok now if a Harris hawk wasn't all dark it would have a malar stripe under it's eye it's connect to malar stripe and from a connection sun is out it's eye it's wird and and the malar stripe is mine ferrrignouse is a para beoto near beato or hawk eagle and ties together like that.

  • @alkonost8459
    @alkonost8459 3 роки тому +1

    Oh, you really flying rough legged buzzard? This species lives here naturally but i didnt seen anyone to fly it with

    • @benwoodrufffalconry
      @benwoodrufffalconry  3 роки тому

      I have had success with two females on rabbits. They are far more buoyant than any other buzzard I have flown, so I ended up having my most success soar hawking them along hills and ridges while I flushed below them.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    You can have opinions about the ferrugnouse hawk or eagle but bottom line is ferrugnouse is a effective bird in falconry I've flown before and I've also have flown a red tail and difftent in way that subjest there not the same ferrugnouse have a difftent agression than red tail thats noticeable and if you look at them on flight the shape of the wings and form resble a golden eagle more so than a red tail I understand birds of the same species differ but ferrugnouse is diffrent in way that I've think of the fergi as being a eagle a buzzerd sized eagle based on pitchers booted eagles resemble a ferrugnouse and there's also a aquila eagle one of them with same markings but size that support it aquila statis and I honestly think ferrugnouse is a Compitor to the golden eagle and the bold eagle dosnt play that roll and I don't think a red tail is a direct compitor to golden eagle and ferrignouse is buzzerd sized eagle and not a buzzerd eagle and think some one that can handle a red tail and not golden eagle also couldnt handle a ferrugnouse ok and the the harpy needs to be put in the cadgory of unuseful birds for the sport because they line up stand off to monkeys that instinct in them and they pick fruit and is cleaver but again no chase accursed in nature it's about choices to mold no life is created but molded and theres a large squirell in central America but when I look at harpy I'm not seeing cork screwing or monuverable bird do what's quick and work for certain and reprating things tyst work and monkeys and sloths is no game or money achived no chase accurses othor than stocking to trigger stand off there still a large beatiful bird but I don't see a harpy flipping over a deer I think golden eagles are much stronger even though there smaller and useful in the sport I've seen on UA-cam trainers can only get this large powerful harpy to fly once to the fist they never do any woodland work or munuvoring and I respect all birds of prey I think harpy should not be considered a game bird.

  • @missingbone1
    @missingbone1 Рік тому

    It's aquila eagle or I'd be out this life right now as waist.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    Ok we astablished that hawk eagle capable of makeing a hybrid with Harris hawk that in the long run is capable of makeing a rideable dragon that's big enough to ride it coast a thasond dallors a second to ride .

  • @missingbone1
    @missingbone1 Рік тому

    I think birds will tell you what they are there smart like a Harris hawk knows its a Harris hawk the fergnouse tells you its aquila and eagle its different than golden eagles you see them often on telephone poles alout time ajasent to red tailed hawk and when trapping you haft to atablesh wither its a red tail or fergnouse than if juvenile brown tail becuse of that I thought they was always a buzzerd I imprinted a large female and on the lure jump off at me like back off when I went to get her off the lure witch indacted eagle aquila in form red tailed don't do that but I'm sure a golden eagle would they stand up like that and also the fergnouse went way off in the distance I think on first flight and returned very eagle like a red tail in that aloft would be lost next a got a Harris hawk and that equaled out a hybrid I made I'm sure it derived from that combo of birds in comersail art I put my carror on the line from 2pac to Fergie big girls don't cry that it's equila that album was hit based on ot being a eagle or the album would come out that descise and it did than a breeder in Michigan gave me a free Harris trade for fergnouse witch band number gave her me ferginouse I lost that fergnouse eagle and look for it for months being young I know for a fact reincarnation is what accures at the end of life ot dosnt match life what happens and its hard to think of and proof its aquila eagle is Amy Pico and a raptor center has my fergnouse hawk I fairly found OK she gave up on red tail hybrid Harris hawk looking for the money witch it fergnouse hybrid OK tge Harris hawk ferignouse hawk hybrid is a hawk eagle that spells that out I'm using that to get bigger to older I haft to get slightly bigger and its painful and I'm using hawk eagle so fergi caretor is all that album beat fercon becuse its a eagle OK in Utah I was given 2 names brisk and ferro OK by a taggers that in Utah finding your name when your done in evolving is what people do OK tge name came out feirro that means iron in Spanish and that's the root of Spanish all this settle lots of debates where Spanish is from and one thing it astablishes is fergnouse is aquila or fercon would of won and those twins would still be up so it's a eagle Sir.

  • @missingbone1
    @missingbone1 Рік тому

    The ferrugnouse have small feet for a advantage for fighting and chicken fighters give me a hard time they have alout in common with Harris ferr when it come to that there very fast compared to red tails and stuff red tails have alout of fans and that's one reason it's Ben moss classed in 6th grade level books.

  • @user-kj6rj9ce1m
    @user-kj6rj9ce1m 6 місяців тому

    You dont haft to watch your back and you never be struck by a advery or anything but you do haft to worry falling off arie or car accdeint things of that nature your cool edjucater and a good book writer.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 10 місяців тому

    See how robust there respotory system is and there taperd wings they stoop faster than a golden eagle.less drag and weight can get up to 5 lb

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    Ferrugnouse hawk eagle English only.

  • @jasonpatterson8091
    @jasonpatterson8091 3 роки тому +2

    No complaint about the arguments you're making, but now that we have a good grasp of taxonomy, using taxonomically dodgy definitions for animals that are otherwise well classified doesn't make sense to me. Further, I suspect that 99% of the people who know the words "ferruginous hawk" have never even seen one. These people can and should be bothered to assign the correct classification to an animal.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    It settled in it's a hawk eagle it not miss classphied it's incomplete if you belive the only true hawks are forest hawks than you have conversey of classing the struggle classding derives from gos hawk being true austringer type predjice it will fall into where ever it fits in to your train of thought but admit it's a buzzerd eagle at the end I really regard bold eagles as an eagle for like Latin names and things like that I consider myselve an exspert in thinking a gos hawk abd red tailed hawk are both hawks ones beoto one accippter but just get in where you fit in and in way of thinking it's not miss classed it incomplete your ust to saying ferrugnouse hawk from growing up calling them that then you argue wither it's eagle not ferrugnouse hawks are known for that argument every falconers knows that so from eagle arument the vibe turns into hawk eagle in when said and done that's what it makes and that's what it is.

  • @missingbone1
    @missingbone1 Рік тому

    As names of birds those derive and come together as combos see how red tailed hawk slides off the tongue so does ferrugnouse hawk you know becuse hawks the bold eagle is a eagle its name is combo that its name that's what is it is ferrignouse hawk cus it's hawk just like the red tailed hawk is indeed a hawk a harpy eagle is a eagle you can't harpy with out saying eagle you know why becuse eagle now when turning or cadgoriseing biologist complicate things but the simple surface simplicity is what it is so when think of classing thing the accipters are the true hawks becuse a gos is only true hawk or true rider and into egos and falconer the astringer is one that Flys a gos hawk and into classes and be littleing a aistringer that Flys a red tail or a Harris and lives with no class witch goes along with bitterness that comes from total didaction to fly a bird alout falconer want the gos hawk to be tge austringers that demodes some one that Flys a Harris hawk OK not just in falconer but wild life busyness you have raceism not just Coulter but forces red tailed hawk go hand the words but the compritive side denies them that but it is red tailed hawk those buzzards are hawks like people that fly falcons are not all the time but sometimes ego testical when it comes to those sort of things and clime to be more informed does that to birds that is bold eagle that name subjest that becuse it is that my advise is to stay away from arguments you may end up with a poisoned bird keep on the service now could of aqila reglis maybe that's what is but it first name is ferrignouse hawk witch hawk witch dosnt mean your ignorant orthodontist it mean you have basic common since those first name in most books are no joke and labels are more accurate just you technical with Latin terms I've Ben Latin people alout in life and in Spanish study is weak arugula means bird of prey all them golviilen also means hawk like sparrow hawk but Spanish speakers never herd of that term look at citredia there long Spanish words I guess but English is better study I think Latin is ignorant language is just being honest and really think that's ferrugnouse hawk not ferrugnouse buzzerd just becuse the fact that you to stop and correct yourselve to be technical people say hawk becuse that's it is now add eagle to fergnouse hawk and it's hawk eagle witch is a hawk with eagle attributes I think calling bold eagle a eagle is educated than explaining its not really a eagle becuse invention is 6th grade math 6 grade math is why you have a phone and 6 grade math is why you call a bold eagle a eagle and that's what it is you get technical about names to out smart some one but simplicity subjest that that expert is running from invention witch is pressure and discomfort like sabor tooth tiger skull that cat never existed prevelaged information to be a true informant so I'm sure there's reason people argue such things my opinion is you can add eagle to ferrugnouse hawk eagle would be the most accurate description if you want musure importance from a invention stand point of getting things out and running calling a bold eagle a eagle is rubbing 2 sticks together and seeing smoke calling it just bold is a waist of time.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    Hobby lobby is saleing falconry equipment.

  • @missingbone1
    @missingbone1 Рік тому

    Ferro means iron the movie top gun and iron eagle are competitors and that's why is the air force mis classfing the bird hast to do with planes it is aquila but ots habits are different than golden eagle the popular but the hybrid of Harris golden eagle is possible the female golden can't crush the bird even though it's Harris hawk still is becuse the ferrugnouse eagle has proved its a eagle by out munuvering the golden eagle by making it take care of Harris hawk becuse Harris hawk ferrugnouse eagle hybrid is still a Harris hawk this gives the ferrugnouse eagle a key to go into included ereas people say they won't tolrait inclosed ereas like there cluster fobic Than you have the mountain ranges in Utah on the west side is more open and tge east Wasatch mountain range is wooded or mountain forest and tgw west side is ferrugnouse turf and tge east mountain range is gos hawk mountain range in Utah that really is force and the hybrid Harris furrignous gives it a key to be inclosed to do so it out munverd the golden eagle that is eastern mountain range more so than west valley and that's why I know its a aquila I go by poplar names by sepve awareness of life direct with medfors its conversy the song music back steet boys incompleate are in alout was spoiled brats that incompleat turns into hawk eagle but it equila just eagle I really refure bold eagles as eagles a aspray to me isn't a eagle but a bold eagle is I just that almost kids books big letters kinda classiing but it's is aquila and the golden eagle is cimoitor and the hybrid Harris ferrugnouse is a reflection of juvenile witch dosnt live a year and gets back in egg witch is male angel dosnt live a year but still ages key witch is angelic key so the harrurris hawk eagle the adult plumage gives a bird a juvenile key and you can have it for sevrol years beyond first year witch makes a usable soldier bird.

  • @georgeblanco436
    @georgeblanco436 3 роки тому +1

    I would argue that the RT probably should have been classified a hawk/eagle. When fit they will take a further slips and are faster than most Harris hawk when pursuing mammalian prey, they take 3 years to sexually mature yet they get their red tail in their first molt.

    • @markr1142
      @markr1142 3 роки тому +1

      Red tailed buzzard is accurate. They look like common buzzards buteo buteo... except for the red tail. Lost captive bred red tails have cross bred with wild common buzzrds in the UK. They are very similar birds.

  • @KestrelBone-pd2gt
    @KestrelBone-pd2gt 6 місяців тому

    Brisk knows to duck if he misses another Harris is comeing in.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    Speaking of true hawks ok a Merlin is pigion hawk ok pergrine is a duck hawk ok a Harris hawk is crow hawk and use that and my mind dominates after a storm you haft to reboot them and Remeber me amdaitley and behave like a Harris and in tenesee youll see crows flying like Harris hawk it's cool and I use that ok as far quarry deadly rat is the tracking quarry pin pointing a rat in a feild takes skill mice as well seeing quarry alive and not hunting is important in my style so I have a pet rat and see crows all day flying for me I named my pet rat fag alout of rich people have kids with pet rats they have usually a ball python and full sized rat alout time a large ball python cant devour it my Harris hawk killed a big very large rat no problem I went back to the pet store and bote a small rat makeing them assume the rat was to big and bote a smaller one to sussfully kill but kept as pet also I killed a pigion yesterday and beat the Merlin ok always put your bird over prey I wouldn't keep a pet crow at all and I named my rat fag and I'm sure Merlin or pergrine falconers put them above pigion and ducks a coopers is quail hawk and a Harris hawk is crow hawk not raven so much but crow.

  • @missingbone1
    @missingbone1 Рік тому

    Go after the brown tail good when you see a adult red tail admire it later you see a brown tail and you have less than year to live ok being a aprintice is not easy I'm a master apprentice it's a devison I'm starting.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    Yea the problem is cool you need let that spawk go far away from desent people a good place is porta Rico.

  • @missingbone1
    @missingbone1 Рік тому

    I invented the smart phone I cadgrise birds a red tailed is a hawk I do codgrise is a beato I gos hawk or cooper's hawk I do cadgrise is as accepter but I red tail is also a hawk there both hawks falcons all have the same basic form so have a like peals pergrine antume but then you have kestrel and hobby falcons micro world still falcons just not hard hitting a kestrel is a person sparrow hawk is hit OK if kestrel you haft to ask yourselve do like Male kestrel or female the sexsail demorphisms does make them copitors there's female American kestrel that mates they don't lay you can even consider them a single girl freind you trap a female kestrel and Girl freind that goal is to be a angel you fly and push female kestrel and aim is to have a angel for a girl freind and karma from it and purpose male kestrel don't like so like true falcons are female and males are Terrcels than males can fall into a sparrow hawk force so let's say your driving down the enter state and you notice a small spawk on exposed branch and your with a female injoying a ride in tge sun set and in sun set you see a bird cooper's hawk rapid wing beat than a coast than pumping wings again your on the females side and you key cus at this point your the kestrel and you have key to survive that hit and trust when your flying a female kestrel and devoting your life to keep her healthy and in condition the male kestrel don't like that the different plumage is gender war and than get into porta Rican flag and potrole cars so your a kestrel than your female dude merlin have different plumage than male and female but they don't have gender compitive issues American kestrel do if you listen to American kestrel or spawk call there alout more inteance than other falcons and ful of rage alout times compared to other falcons there small and they don't hot as hard but female kestrel is trying to do some thing and it is is hatch out a egg eight legs and arms I am all the rappers voice and people ask why do rap like that other cops don't they do there job why are so crazy and determined becuse I'm trying to get in a female golden eagle egg with a male Harris hawk dad OK so that possible its the flag mexican one that Harris out Munuverd a golden eagle and represent that that's why Latin America supports that flag becuse Harris go all the down south America except in Bezil it all the Argentina and it beat golden eagle that goes med way down Mexico up into North America all to Alaska and stuff then over seas into packstain Germany mongola and tge flag represent winning the top of the food chain Harris that's the tips of South west and South America I'm trying to be a kestrel witch is a angel from the nest and a female kestrel wants that to not all them and that's why I rap and do things I do and that's why female American kestrel and different than common kestrel or European kestrel lesser kestrel so out munuvering the red tailed red tailed hawk represent probation bleeding heart guts digestion red make sure things always always have water pump heart things always stay on probation when I'm done evolving I beat tge red tailed hawk witch makes me solid I hunger and eat but obsorb right away no longer fart or have bowl movements I'm in the Bible belt with Coulter that are all about eating digesting country music is fart music merochie again gas and people that want to fart forever have hot on me mexicam restraints India people becuse I'm giving up farting and having a bowl movement forever I'm basically angel mornia in Bible belt deer hunters people that hate music mexican that don't likeHarris hawks so I'm kestrel to survive I have key to reserect and multiplicity happens and it happen almost every day on regular some sevrole times a day mad at people not really I walk away from my own murders and I'm evolving into a kestrel so it upset me but it gives me keys people want to fart and poop forever they no hobbies there albout eating and pooping and are affended of me noisy ass holes that think the world is there's and I get a new freind of stuff I was doing and get rid of enmie that shoots to kill cus o don't injoy fart smells and pretty bad about that almost like farts are controlled substance but life goes on day there just be one and won't haft to fight the old me to be tge master get my close back jack what ever I was doing at the park at the mall there just will be one and join tge others that got killed before trying to be hood dad or do bird show people are not good and there guilty of murder and I get my car a drive to pick my mom up at work every day man and it pay off that's what do its fun but it's painful female angels tried to unbody me forever becuse I'm more interesting so ask you else is bigger than a Harris hawk and not inbarrsed to lay a egg a female golden eagle I'm kestrel wonderful tge female golden made a ferruginouse hybrid red tail ornate hybrid she lay eggs and she'll lay kestrel egg and be mother there so becareful with female kestrel they want in on that and not all but some male kestrel hate that.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    Is eating dead mice more deadly than eating p.

  • @angelgreen3532
    @angelgreen3532 2 роки тому

    Please learn how to properly pronounce "accipiters." Ack-sip-i-ters

  • @viveviveka2651
    @viveviveka2651 2 роки тому

    "Falcons and Eagles of North America" sounds noble.
    "Buzzards of North America" sounds ignoble.

  • @samkh4205
    @samkh4205 3 роки тому

    somone give me a smuggler i want a hawk but i dont want to take 2 years worh of classes

    • @benwoodrufffalconry
      @benwoodrufffalconry  3 роки тому +3

      In the United States the laws are very strict and the process to get a permit may seem overwhelming. But the laws and processes in place are there to help keep the birds safe and you safe as well. Birds of prey may be powerful (and are powerful symbols as well) but they are actually comparatively delicate and require a lot of knowledge to care for them properly. So even if it seems overwhelming to have to go through all the legal process, it is definitely the right thing to do.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    You want nobility and you got it.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    You haft to live with kestrels there a demanding bird watch t.v with them all that and take them with you every where you go and have job that you can have a kestel if you go to school even college you haft to be able to sit in class with them.

  • @missingbone1
    @missingbone1 Рік тому

    Let me know if you need a big Harris hawk that ust to havea hobby or sooty with a finger steave children is easy to get a hold of g unit

  • @missingbone1
    @missingbone1 Рік тому

    It's incompleate hawk eagle a hawk with eagle atrabutes.

  • @missingbone1
    @missingbone1 Рік тому

    It's a eagle there's anthor eagle with its exact markings people just like to think of bold eagles and golden if you look at some small Male golden eagles can get very small and hawk like but there still eagles.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    Ok when find out thats a 3rd and the 3rd eagle is the national bird people always think the third eagje is the one that they found out about ok the 3rd eagle is still the golden eagle Its not news to me ok the first eagle is the bold eagle ok the second eagle is a hawk eagle fweeignouse that's USA national bird it's secret the ferrugnouse is fighting bird ok hawk eagle the Harris ferrugnouse hybrid is a rideable dragon hawk but it's big enough for a kestrel to ride ok in united states a American kestrel and a kestrel is not the same thing even though north America only has one kestrel.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    Ok the golden eagle Harris hybrid is the most pernormal bird ok the most powerful bird that you could set your watch to is the Utah golden eagle.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 10 місяців тому

    Humans people are very smart and capable but I still think there strange.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 10 місяців тому

    In Nashville every one thinks every one in Utah is Mormon and hustile big time be careful there wird just keep a eye out for southern and foren type.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    Ferrugnouse hawk eagles are in there own cadgory Simlair to harris hawk comparing a red tail to ferrugnouse is Simlair to comparing a harris and Gos hawk there in para beuto near beato cadgory all of there own I'm compleatley layol to the game and in life a ferrrignouse hawk landed in my lap at young age in my prime as growth nissasity and there a para beato.or hawk eagle very much like a Harris hawk Harris hawks are also hawk eagles.