Dude. I tried seperating the tranny. Either there is more to disconnect that I am not seeing or I'm dumb. Those four bolts and some brackets plus the torque converter bolts. There may be corrosion on the dowels or something but dude, I do this for a living lol! It wasnt comin. Glad this video was posted dude. I almost got it with a 1/4" swivel 13mm on a wobble ext...SO CLOSE LOL! Going in the a.m. for these sockets!
This video gave me the inspiration to tackle my oil leak that I have put up with for many years. One day to disassemble, another to re-assemble. That 13mm bolt was a bear to remove. First thing to take off. I just completed this work with success here are my thoughts. I used an engine support bar… it was not needed. Two engine/transmission mounts (near each fender) maintains the position. Engine does not need to be lifted. The exhaust crossover pipe is rigidly secured to the manifold on the opposite side. So, lifting the engine offer no additional clearance from the crossover pipe. I detached the lower control arm from the sub frame on the right side. Remove the single nut on the transmission mount near the radiator and the hardware on the rear center transmission mount. Two sub-frame bolts engaged by 2-3 threads on the left side allowed the sub-frame to pivot after removing the remaining 4-bolts. This is needed to ease with the removal of the pan. Don’t forget to remove any bolts and plastic clips from the sub-frame. Replace the dreaded 13mm bolt with M8-1.25 X 45 (40 is OK also) cap screw and flat washer. This allows for the use of a ball end Allen wrench to easily install the screw without any problems. Home Depot sells the screw, #803438 for a couple of dollars.
Thanks very much!. I just finished replacing the gasket and your videos helped a lot. A couple of suggestions: rather than slotting the original bolt and RTV-ing it to an extension, I used a socket head cap screw and a ball-end allen driver. The M8-1.25 x 40 mm screw is available at Lowes, as are the ball-end wrenches. Secondly, rather than using a pry bar to increase the exhaust tube clearance, I used an M8-1.25 x 50 mm bolt (from Lowes), inserted from the threaded end of the exhaust tube flange and pushing against a plate in front of the non-thread flange. I just wasn't able to pry it far enough apart otherwise. My Deville is a 2004 DHS. I have never found a more comfortable car. So far no problems with the head bolts. Keep up the good work! I am grateful for guys like you.
I want to thank you for this video I had the oil pan out in 2 hours and I also just dropped the subframe to make it easier to work and on the exhaust I used the bolts with spacers in it and pulled the exhaust down
The garage immediately gave me the dealership version to the tune of 1000 bucks for a leaking gasket. Guess they are too busy to do things the longer, thought out and problem solving way. Impressed and thank you. Looking for a new garage😅
Brother, you just saved me a lot of aggravation with this whole shitty setup from Cadillac..."Or I should and will say Cadiwack!!!!!" An extreme thank you for this!!! Props to you!!!
I hope you understand you helped me out so much... i didnt know i had a snapon socket that would get that bolt out. I used ur pry bar/jack idea and it helped the pan pass the crank bolts. I didnt take all the craddle bolts out... Total time took about 4 hours from beginning to end... I wish i could post pics of how i had it set up...
You know what big dog that was genius that is the best way i have seen so far .Thank you for the help . I really did not want to take it to a shop.You are the man thanks agin...,😎
Thank you! Thank you! I have an 05. Your video is more help than you realize. Make more! If you ever change your climate control mode door actuator, please make a video.
Man, I'm gonna have to do this plus some with my dad soon. Our 03 Deville has an Upper Crankcase seal leak... Gonna do a gasket conversion. We've been holding it off because of how much of a pain it is.
I was able to remove the oil pan by removing the oil pick up tube using a long wrench and my fingers to let it drop in the pan. However, I can't figure out how to put it back together because I can't reach far enough to start the nut on the brace. I have the cradle dropped down as far as it will go without removing it entirely. The pan just will not clear the pickup tube to allow me to slip the pan over the exhaust pipe. Any ideas will be welcome. The video is great and covered about everything. Mine is a 2011 DTS.
So i have lower the subframe and undo the control only on the passenger side and pry the exhaust and thats it or do i have to take off the rack in pinion the sway bar links and stuff ive seen videos of them saying all that had to come out when taking off the subframe is that truee ???
why is this idea not working for me? I've went and bought the sockets and also using the wobble extensions and the socket is still not fitting on the bolt correctly enough to even break it loose. what am I doing wrong?
Ya a shop quoted an upper oil seal replacement on an 08 Cadillac DTS $3000. I'm like the car isn't really even worth that. I might tinker with it and just scrap the POS if I can't figure it out. Thanks for the video bud!
I just happen to come across this video. I did one of these 4.6 Engine oil pan gasket. Was able to remove 13 mm bolt by using three different brand of 13 mm wrenches. DId replace bolt with 10 mm Hex.Also was able to Sneak new gasket onto oil pan without removing pan completely. Need lots of Patience and experience working with hand tools to do this job. GM Engineers Destroyed a Great Company with these Bad Designs of Engine and Cars
So I seen a video where they just took the bolts out of the oil pan where it drops it half way or whatever till it hits the exhaust I wanna say and they took out the gasket and played with the new gasket to get it and and stayed is that how your talking about I wanna see if thats possible without taking all this other crap out
Man. Before I even saw this video I found those sockets and they still didn’t work..so I went ahead and google it and found this. The transmission is just too damn close. Any suggestions? Yes I’m using wobble extension
Hello and thanks for your video. I'm considering doing my parents 07 Lucerne with Northstar. Did you have to support the motor or transmission after dropping the frame? It looks easier in your video than I'm sure it is. Any problems removing bolts or nuts from frame? That pry bar and jack really does work. I did the same thing when I replaced the transmission pan on my 2012 Chevy silverado. Pushed the exhaust down just enough to put in the pan. Thanks
That same bolt kicked my ass and I was about to give up. I got a short socket with a 3/8 extention and simply hammer it up in there and was able to loosen it. How did you take the pan off. This Dam exhaust is in the way. I'm just gonna gut it and rerout it.
@joseconstante1321 Brother, I cut it just enough on both ends with a saw saw and grinder, took off the pan and it was the oil pump that was clauged. I cleaned it put everything back then took it to a muffler shop that for 150$ they put another piece. It sounds a bit louder now but 8k miles later the car is running like a champ. It passed smog and everything. BTW, on the side closer to the front there was somekind of flange which I eliminated and made everything alot easier. It was my last resort before junking it. I'm was really proud of myself. Saw a Mexican guy doing it on UA-cam which everyone made fun of, but with someone with average mechanical skills and not the best tools, this worked great for me. Hit me up here if you need to know anything else.
I am about to undertake this job on my mother in laws car and I am glad that it is somthing that is possible to do without messing with trans at all!! Question I have is after I get it out and re-seal it and start to put it all back together, can I get a bolt with an allen head or torx to replace that bolt so if it ever needs to be done again it will make things easier for whomever it is that gets the fun task? Or do I need to put the same bolt back in that came out? Understand that you probably are a busy guy so if no reply thats all fine and dandy! The video was help enough as it is!! Thank you!!
If you don't remove the oil suction tube it will be almost impossible, let the pan drop enough to where you can reach your hand in and loosen the bolt and nut to the suction tube, don't worry if they fall in the pan you can retrieve them when you pull the pan down.
@@08turnerchris08 I too am looking for the wobble extension. Can seem to find it. Any help would be appreciated. Where did you bolt into with the engine support bar? Thanks again
I found the wobble extensions at O'Reilly, although the other end is hex instead of 1/4" socket. The set has 1/2", 3/8", and 1/4" extensions for $9.99. Titan # 49006.
@@cutlassknights3101 There is a threaded hole on the passenger side of the engine, near the front. I bought a long M10-1.5 bolt from Lowes and threaded it in the hole as a lift point. On the driver side, there is a pretty obvious loop.
Never got it out. You will have to get the back pain in the ass bolt out first because it holds part of the exhaust if I remember correctly and us a a prybar to move piping
@@timstrauss9363 yes, yes, there is another that thinks similar as myself, unfortunately want out and brought these sockets and that stupid wobble extension, and if you put any pressure, even the lightest pressure the socket will press farther down on the extension, now it's not a wobble extension, go figure. When a problem arose I always came up with a unorthodox way of handling it, if that's the right word to use, yes , a 1/4 13MM, Extension for the impact drill, and of course connected to my impact, and my trusty old belt sander, and just as you said, SURPRISE, SURPRISE.
My mechanic just gave me the news for the oil pan gasket replacement on my 2006 Buick Lucerne 4.6L V8 they want to drop the whole engine and reseal it all. $4,000 plus taxes.
This 06 4.6 dts SUCKS! What trash! Nothing is easy. Headlight bulb? Take off the bumper and front wheels! SOOO many things, now this..not to mention they're rust buckets.
All modern cars (mid-200s+) are troublesome to work on. You don't need to take off the whole bumper, just remove 2-3 screws on the sides to have leeway to remove the H.Lamps; Pretty standard nowadays. Rustbucket? Every car is a rustbucket if you don't rustproof it.
@@ricandbinggomez363 it's a 13mm head. I used a 1/4 inch 13mm socket and pretty much cut that in half. Unless you have super shallow sockets. You need something shallow enough to not get in the way of the pan and to loosen the bolt but long enough to grip the head still.
@@brandonmyers2266 I cant get the socket in the bolt. Also the other side of the oil pan by passenger side of the car. The middles bolt is hard to take out. How did you pulled it out? I am not a mechanic but I want to do it myself because the dealership and mechanic quoted me that I cannot afford. Thank you for all the help bro
@@ricandbinggomez363 I'm gonna be honest with you bro I don't remember any bolts other than that one 13mm. I would need to see pictures in order for me to help you. So if there is a way for you to send pictures I can definitely help better
Great job I am a mechanic and every time I have to do this job I go back to your video just for refreshment of the damm process
Ruben Garcia That’s Awesome this is the only reason I made this video
Dude. I tried seperating the tranny. Either there is more to disconnect that I am not seeing or I'm dumb. Those four bolts and some brackets plus the torque converter bolts. There may be corrosion on the dowels or something but dude, I do this for a living lol! It wasnt comin. Glad this video was posted dude. I almost got it with a 1/4" swivel 13mm on a wobble ext...SO CLOSE LOL! Going in the a.m. for these sockets!
This video gave me the inspiration to tackle my oil leak that I have put up with for many years. One day to disassemble, another to re-assemble. That 13mm bolt was a bear to remove. First thing to take off.
I just completed this work with success here are my thoughts. I used an engine support bar… it was not needed. Two engine/transmission mounts (near each fender) maintains the position. Engine does not need to be lifted. The exhaust crossover pipe is rigidly secured to the manifold on the opposite side. So, lifting the engine offer no additional clearance from the crossover pipe. I detached the lower control arm from the sub frame on the right side. Remove the single nut on the transmission mount near the radiator and the hardware on the rear center transmission mount. Two sub-frame bolts engaged by 2-3 threads on the left side allowed the sub-frame to pivot after removing the remaining 4-bolts. This is needed to ease with the removal of the pan. Don’t forget to remove any bolts and plastic clips from the sub-frame.
Replace the dreaded 13mm bolt with M8-1.25 X 45 (40 is OK also) cap screw and flat washer. This allows for the use of a ball end Allen wrench to easily install the screw without any problems. Home Depot sells the screw, #803438 for a couple of dollars.
For many years? What did u do in the meantime to maintain the leak?
Thanks very much!. I just finished replacing the gasket and your videos helped a lot. A couple of suggestions: rather than slotting the original bolt and RTV-ing it to an extension, I used a socket head cap screw and a ball-end allen driver. The M8-1.25 x 40 mm screw is available at Lowes, as are the ball-end wrenches. Secondly, rather than using a pry bar to increase the exhaust tube clearance, I used an M8-1.25 x 50 mm bolt (from Lowes), inserted from the threaded end of the exhaust tube flange and pushing against a plate in front of the non-thread flange. I just wasn't able to pry it far enough apart otherwise. My Deville is a 2004 DHS. I have never found a more comfortable car. So far no problems with the head bolts. Keep up the good work! I am grateful for guys like you.
Thank you James Stamps for your advice and input, much respect for your knowledge.
james plz brother let me know if this same technique will work on my 97 deville
I want to thank you for this video I had the oil pan out in 2 hours and I also just dropped the subframe to make it easier to work and on the exhaust I used the bolts with spacers in it and pulled the exhaust down
The garage immediately gave me the dealership version to the tune of 1000 bucks for a leaking gasket. Guess they are too busy to do things the longer, thought out and problem solving way. Impressed and thank you. Looking for a new garage😅
I'm very disappointed knowing the work I have ahead of me but also very thankful for this video. Good work brother.
Brother, you just saved me a lot of aggravation with this whole shitty setup from Cadillac..."Or I should and will say Cadiwack!!!!!" An extreme thank you for this!!! Props to you!!!
I hope you understand you helped me out so much... i didnt know i had a snapon socket that would get that bolt out. I used ur pry bar/jack idea and it helped the pan pass the crank bolts. I didnt take all the craddle bolts out... Total time took about 4 hours from beginning to end...
I wish i could post pics of how i had it set up...
Wow. This is the video I was waiting for. i will be tackling this project. Thanks. I will be back to give an update.
good I hope what I did helps you out. it is for sure not an easy task. but it can be done
You know what big dog that was genius that is the best way i have seen so far .Thank you for the help .
I really did not want to take it to a shop.You are the man thanks agin...,😎
Man I greatly appreciate your video helped a lot smart man I’m about to get it done !!!!
Thank you! Thank you! I have an 05. Your video is more help than you realize. Make more! If you ever change your climate control mode door actuator, please make a video.
Thanks for the video it helps a great amount of work and time
Man, I'm gonna have to do this plus some with my dad soon. Our 03 Deville has an Upper Crankcase seal leak... Gonna do a gasket conversion. We've been holding it off because of how much of a pain it is.
Great idea great job. I did this job by saperate the transmission and it take more time. Good luck✌
Thank you!! Hopefully I can do it on the ground. I will be back for an update.
I was able to remove the oil pan by removing the oil pick up tube using a long wrench and my fingers to let it drop in the pan. However, I can't figure out how to put it back together because I can't reach far enough to start the nut on the brace. I have the cradle dropped down as far as it will go without removing it entirely. The pan just will not clear the pickup tube to allow me to slip the pan over the exhaust pipe. Any ideas will be welcome. The video is great and covered about everything. Mine is a 2011 DTS.
So i have lower the subframe and undo the control only on the passenger side and pry the exhaust and thats it or do i have to take off the rack in pinion the sway bar links and stuff ive seen videos of them saying all that had to come out when taking off the subframe is that truee ???
why is this idea not working for me? I've went and bought the sockets and also using the wobble extensions and the socket is still not fitting on the bolt correctly enough to even break it loose. what am I doing wrong?
Ya a shop quoted an upper oil seal replacement on an 08 Cadillac DTS $3000. I'm like the car isn't really even worth that. I might tinker with it and just scrap the POS if I can't figure it out. Thanks for the video bud!
Hey did you ever get it fix, if so where did you go...???
Great input I'm about to fix one myself
So you didn't have to separate the transmission from the motor?? Awesome video bro.
I just happen to come across this video. I did one of these 4.6 Engine oil pan gasket. Was able to remove 13 mm bolt by using three different brand of 13 mm wrenches. DId replace bolt with 10 mm Hex.Also was able to Sneak new gasket onto oil pan without removing pan completely.
Need lots of Patience and experience working with hand tools to do this job.
GM Engineers Destroyed a Great Company with these Bad Designs of Engine and Cars
So I seen a video where they just took the bolts out of the oil pan where it drops it half way or whatever till it hits the exhaust I wanna say and they took out the gasket and played with the new gasket to get it and and stayed is that how your talking about I wanna see if thats possible without taking all this other crap out
Do i have to undo the control arm?
Man. Before I even saw this video I found those sockets and they still didn’t work..so I went ahead and google it and found this. The transmission is just too damn close. Any suggestions? Yes I’m using wobble extension
Hello and thanks for your video. I'm considering doing my parents 07 Lucerne with Northstar. Did you have to support the motor or transmission after dropping the frame? It looks easier in your video than I'm sure it is. Any problems removing bolts or nuts from frame? That pry bar and jack really does work. I did the same thing when I replaced the transmission pan on my 2012 Chevy silverado. Pushed the exhaust down just enough to put in the pan. Thanks
Nive vid. I'm looking for video on how to change oil pump on 2005 cadillac deville?
Also, you might have to heat the bolt using a soldering gun or tool to help break it loose. Wheu! What a pain!
How many subframe bolts did u need to remove? Just the 3 on the passenger side?
What size is the socket
I need you to fix my car. It needs a oil pan. I have a Cadillac deville
Cool i like ur way and easy tricks
So is it all the 10’s around the outside and that one 13? So how many bolts do i take off on the cradle?
Good job cotton eye joe!
It was the best part of the video 🤣
That same bolt kicked my ass and I was about to give up. I got a short socket with a 3/8 extention and simply hammer it up in there and was able to loosen it. How did you take the pan off. This Dam exhaust is in the way. I'm just gonna gut it and rerout it.
What did you end up doing
@joseconstante1321 Brother, I cut it just enough on both ends with a saw saw and grinder, took off the pan and it was the oil pump that was clauged. I cleaned it put everything back then took it to a muffler shop that for 150$ they put another piece. It sounds a bit louder now but 8k miles later the car is running like a champ. It passed smog and everything. BTW, on the side closer to the front there was somekind of flange which I eliminated and made everything alot easier. It was my last resort before junking it. I'm was really proud of myself. Saw a Mexican guy doing it on UA-cam which everyone made fun of, but with someone with average mechanical skills and not the best tools, this worked great for me. Hit me up here if you need to know anything else.
@@imatter4619 that sounds like something I would do lol ty
Fuck you UA-cam or this channal. Block me cause I don't give a fuck
I am about to undertake this job on my mother in laws car and I am glad that it is somthing that is possible to do without messing with trans at all!! Question I have is after I get it out and re-seal it and start to put it all back together, can I get a bolt with an allen head or torx to replace that bolt so if it ever needs to be done again it will make things easier for whomever it is that gets the fun task? Or do I need to put the same bolt back in that came out? Understand that you probably are a busy guy so if no reply thats all fine and dandy! The video was help enough as it is!! Thank you!!
I honestly dont see why you couldn't.
To me that sounds like a good idea
@@08turnerchris08 cool man, thanks for the assistance. Its appreciated!
Where are located?
I have a dts and I have oil problem?
cant get pipe out of the way to get it past the bolts how damn far do i need to pry on it before it bends or breaks
If you don't remove the oil suction tube it will be almost impossible, let the pan drop enough to where you can reach your hand in and loosen the bolt and nut to the suction tube, don't worry if they fall in the pan you can retrieve them when you pull the pan down.
Is it?, ok to do it on the lift? Do I need something to hold the engine up?.
Bro, did you get it back in??
Do you have a model number of the extension socket you bought?
the wobble extensions or the oreillys short sockets
@@08turnerchris08 the wobble extension.
@@08turnerchris08 I too am looking for the wobble extension. Can seem to find it. Any help would be appreciated. Where did you bolt into with the engine support bar? Thanks again
I found the wobble extensions at O'Reilly, although the other end is hex instead of 1/4" socket. The set has 1/2", 3/8", and 1/4" extensions for $9.99. Titan # 49006.
@@cutlassknights3101 There is a threaded hole on the passenger side of the engine, near the front. I bought a long M10-1.5 bolt from Lowes and threaded it in the hole as a lift point. On the driver side, there is a pretty obvious loop.
Where'd you get the socket?
Lamar Holmes O’Reilly auto parts. This is the only place I could find a socket like this. I show it in one of these video
@@08turnerchris08 thanks man that 1 screw is evil
@@lamarholmes1576 yes it is!!!
just make sure to knotch the bolt head so you can put it back lol
GIT-R-DONE THANX BUD!!
I tried to unbolt the crossover pipe but had no wiggle room and the bolts are rusted. How did you get the crossover pipe to come out?
Never got it out. You will have to get the back pain in the ass bolt out first because it holds part of the exhaust if I remember correctly and us a a prybar to move piping
@@08turnerchris08 Thank you! BTW, when you say "cradle," do you mean lowering the subframe?
@@marylamb6063 yes ot will not come out without lowering subframe(cradle)
Support engine from top side
I liked it thank you
Oh and thanks. Good video.
What year is this car ur working on
Sooner or later someone’s gonna have to pull it when the block leaks
How many miles was on ur car when changed?
Hi, what size is the big bolt? Thank you.
13mm
Grind a H.F. socket to the nub and the heal side it will go in there
@@timstrauss9363 yes, yes, there is another that thinks similar as myself, unfortunately want out and brought these sockets and that stupid wobble extension, and if you put any pressure, even the lightest pressure the socket will press farther down on the extension, now it's not a wobble extension, go figure.
When a problem arose I always came up with a unorthodox way of handling it, if that's the right word to use, yes , a 1/4 13MM, Extension for the impact drill, and of course connected to my impact, and my trusty old belt sander, and just as you said, SURPRISE, SURPRISE.
Is there anyone in Los Angeles or near that can help me with my 1996 Cadillac sedan deville
Thanks for sharing
al 100 bro it took me 2 min to pull the 13 and 10 mm bolts hell yeah
Are those the ones that are a paint in the ass to get to I need to replace mine but not sure if it's gonna be easy enough
Thanks
Thank you so much!!!
Thank you much.
Damn ! Thank you
Thanks alot
THANK YOU!!!
Have you had any leaks since fixing the car?
No leaks👍🏼
My mechanic just gave me the news for the oil pan gasket replacement on my 2006 Buick Lucerne 4.6L V8 they want to drop the whole engine and reseal it all. $4,000 plus taxes.
Thank you!
Damn shame. I’ll probably never buy these Cadillacs again.
This relates to the collapse of the City of Detroit.
Awesome
About how long did this take you??
it took me most of the day to complete
Loos like you spent more time than i would pulling the transmission
What do you use to get it out? First one in going to do have a lift but I can't imagine getting it out faster that this way
Smart!!!!!....
Damn I pulled the damn engine out tf🤬
Jesus these cars are a disaster
You got that right
This is still entry-level "Pain-in-the-bum", removing the oil pan on a CTS is a nightmare.
And they do work doing a DTS now
The trick is to never buy an American made car.
This 06 4.6 dts SUCKS!
What trash! Nothing is easy. Headlight bulb? Take off the bumper and front wheels!
SOOO many things, now this..not to mention they're rust buckets.
All modern cars (mid-200s+) are troublesome to work on. You don't need to take off the whole bumper, just remove 2-3 screws on the sides to have leeway to remove the H.Lamps; Pretty standard nowadays. Rustbucket? Every car is a rustbucket if you don't rustproof it.
How did you move the exhaust out of the way enough to get the pan out? I can get the pan out because of the exhaust.
What size is that BOLT?
@@ricandbinggomez363 it's a 13mm head. I used a 1/4 inch 13mm socket and pretty much cut that in half. Unless you have super shallow sockets. You need something shallow enough to not get in the way of the pan and to loosen the bolt but long enough to grip the head still.
@@brandonmyers2266 I cant get the socket in the bolt. Also the other side of the oil pan by passenger side of the car. The middles bolt is hard to take out. How did you pulled it out? I am not a mechanic but I want to do it myself because the dealership and mechanic quoted me that I cannot afford. Thank you for all the help bro
@@ricandbinggomez363 I'm gonna be honest with you bro I don't remember any bolts other than that one 13mm. I would need to see pictures in order for me to help you. So if there is a way for you to send pictures I can definitely help better