So... The cheaper one uses a copy of the cooler master mounting system, and the more expensive one uses a 90s-vintage spring loaded mounting system. Makes sense.
The Aresgame River 5 is often down to $20 US on Amazon (if not, usually $25 which is still super cheap), it has 5 heatpipes, I'm curious how it stacks up to these.
I used a couple of those and it kept a 2400G below 50° while gaming (Escape from Tarkov in my case) measured with MSI Afterburner. But of course i didn't do a detailed benchmark nor i am a professional at it.
In europe, and i think big part of asia too, you can get them at their Aliexpress price and the shipping times usually varies between 10 and 20 days. Usully it's about 10 to 14 days.
Yes for the countries that have Lazada or Shopee (South East Asian countries) the shipping time is so fast like 4-5 days only. They're like the local version of Ali/Amazon, owned by Alibaba too.
Here in Germany there are a lot sold on Ebay. buyer protection and acceptable shipping time. and they cost 26 € for the MT4 and 31 € for the MT6. no extra cost at all.
I was able to buy the MT6 but it came with thte MT4 mounting clips for AM4. The installation was pretty good and easy. Also I heard that buying the non rgb or non argb fans are actually better due to them being more quiet than the other versions. Overall it was a pretty solid buy for me, since I live in Asia the price of shipping was relatively cheap and I was more or less able to buy the cooler for around $30
YESSSS!!! ID Cooling is like superb bang for bucks, from fans to Air Coolers to AIOs. I truly have no idea why it is not popular in the US. These "techtuber" would be jumping out of their shorts if they could see what ID-Cooling has to offer.
@@monapizza6085 its probably because id-cooling is mainly focused on the asia market and their reputation in the west is non-existent but yeah their cooler are insanely good
I have Snowman MT4 on Intel G5400 processor with GD900 thermal paste. The max temperature in the middle of summer was 51 celsius after a few hours of playing Valorant, otherwise it would be max 46-47. For 20 dollars I think it's great :D
Tech YES City uses the Snowman Coolers! That's how I found out about them. Thanks Mike! Also Mike, if you do see this comment can you guys do a review of Noctua's Passive CPU Cooler when it comes out. Thanks.
@@jopppsss well actually LOL I decided to get the one with that weird bracket clamps for AMD because I've never opened my computer outside of just the window. And I was too scared to actually screw anything in and out the motherboard and I have a wreath max so the one with the clamps would be a much easier process for me I think 🤔🙂
Seeing my comment highlighted surprised me. First time to happen to me. Anyway, awesome vid! The T6 is a surprise to me too. Didn't expect it to perform that well, along with the T4 in dual fan. I forgot about shipping so apologies for that, and thanks for the vid!
Well, its a good thing Malaysia is really close to china. Dual fan Snowman MT6 cost us RM77 (~USD18.60) and the single fan RM67 (~USD16.20). Just add RM10 ( average lunch money), and I can get another fan.. (EDIT= free shipping)
I bought one of these from china, arrived two weeks ago. Dropped my 3400g's temps by around 20 degrees compared to wreath spire. Somewhat rough to install because of the spring loaded mounting system but no complaints whatsoever.
It seems that if you're buying this in the US, you can get the MT6 with free shipping (but not the MT4, although it is a decent $6.74 for FL). In that case, it is a indeed a good deal!
As an owner of both of these cpu coolers 🤯🥳🎉 I’m very happy with my purchases and use them on both an Intel and AMD cpu based systems with very good cooling temps 🤯👍🥳🥰❤️
I own one of these cooler. They are just as good as some of the mainstream brands out there. Of cos you can't compare it to those Noctua coolers. For the price, these are excellent compare to the stock coolers.
I bought one of these snowman coolers, the low profile cooler with the fan facing down towards the cpu) for my i5-9400 and it was such a pain to get the clips on. It ended up being so loose that I can spin freely but it doesn’t seem to ‘rock’. I may have damaged the cooling by applying too much pressure idk, it still works fine though, temps are low enough. I used thermal grizzly paste on it too. I want to build into a new tiny case, I have a ‘dtx’ mobo and from some research it seems it will fit into a 3 slot itx case, I also need one that fits an atx PSU though. I’m thinking about getting a aio to replace the snowman but I don’t wanna spend more than $150 on the case+aio
upHere N1065, comes in black and white, 6 heatpipes, with or without ARGB, and doesn't use direct contact heatpipes. Is between $33-40 USD depending on the version
Snowman T4 Black Edition is now using the same mounting mechanism as the T6, just letting you guys know. In my country though where the cooler is shipped locally instead of coming directly to China. Also the mounting kit here both contains the AMD and Intel variants (but stil the same crappy Intel Mounting Kit). Snowman T6 Black Edition here with 2 ARGB Fans included that should come with a free thermal compound plus 2 mounting kits is around 35.5 USD. Currently I'm using the Deepcool Gammaxx 400 (4 pipes) and its using the same mounting kit for AMD as the ones used with the T6. They are hard to use AF.
I like this off-brand series, it's nice to see the other options, and resourcefulness in potential budget build parts. Keep it up I look forward to seeing more. 👍
I've bought 3 M-T6's and work superb. Yes, the installation is kinda difficult in smaller cases, I've cut my fingers a little multiple times when the space is small as you have to press that thing really hard, but that's good enough for the bucks I'm saving myself
@@IskalimHK it is beyond excellent if you replace the stock fans with some good fans (my mt6 has 2 fans). Tips for installing this kind of cooler: install the brackets as you normally would, however, loosen the screws as much as you can. Install the cooler on the loosen brackets. Tighten the screws diagonally with a long screwdriver to force the cooler on your cpu. This would ensure that thermal paste is evenly spread and you don't have to worry about the stupid clamps of the cooler. Note: unless you have very delicate hands, you should install it free from your chassis. To uninstall it, follow the steps backwards. Uninstalling will not require motherboard's removal from the chassis.
When i tested i saw zero difference from the gd007 i was using (temps wise). But i hated how its texture was so dry and hard to apply to the cpu, maybe my paste was very old or something...
The pricing of the Snowman MT4 is a lot more attractive when you're buying several of them at a time, (and pre-pandemic). I think at one point I bought six at once and they came out to $23 CAD all-in.
The mounting installation of the MT6 cooler is actually based on the T20i Cooler Master cooler one, and trust me, they have the same pain in the butt when it comes to the installation, but for the price, it is pretty much what you can ask for.
@@dallesamllhals9161 oh, now i know that, man living in the third world country sucks, but still, i guess Cooler Master is heading for them, you know, cheaper price
Took the plunge and got my first proper luxury Chinese product, Xiaomi Mix Fold. Actually really liking it so far (if the hinge holds up). Chinese brands getting pretty good these days..
@@valuehunter5544 oh yeah. I bought a huawei matebook x pro and I loved it. It was incredible. Had to return it cus of a death in the family. But I really wish I could of kept it.
I guess that's the problem of not having it "locally available". Here in the Philippines there's a local retailer that stocks these coolers. They also come bundled with slightly better thermal paste, and both AMD and Intel mounting hardware are included. And since it's "local stock", you're not paying for any shipping from China.
that's sa Pinas. At least Canadians can still have access to those Snowmans thanks to AliExpress. The shipping isn't so bad coming to Canada from China. All depending on how heavy the item is. The highest I've paid on s/h from AliExpress is $20 for shipping on asus prime b350 plus mobo.
Works good on a high core count CPU. Nothing fancy. I got one for $28 with two fans and six pipes, came perfect and mounted easily. Smooth surface compared to $60 coolers.
These are great if you have time to wait for shipping from China, and you are on a budget. Normally I just grab something from Deepcool's lineup off Newegg, or eBay from a US seller, and call it a day as they do just as well for about the same money.
Got the MT6 for cheap here in PH. Great bang for our buck and a solid performer. Downside is if you have a built system and you want to change to MT6 you really have to extract the motherboard because of its old ass mounting system.
Actually, I figured out that if you slowly loosen the screws of the motherboard's mounting bracket, you can easily remove the cooler. However, the catch is that you will need to remove the motherboard to reinstall it. This way of installation ensure the paste always spreads evenly.
Cool, these coolers are really popular here where I live with budget PC builers. You can get them with free shipping and no tax from aliexpress, also you can even get them even cheaper with discounts or coupons. Really good value, but yeah, kina depends on the region you're in.
I'm foreigner. I really like your English! It's easy to understand and nice to hear! Currently I'm looking for some cpu am4 cooler wth max height 156 cm. I might profit from your videos. Thanks for them!
I've had a CPU cooler that installed like that MT6 before, what I did was press it straight down onto the CPU and have a buddy do the clips. Worked perfectly.
i had to deal with a similar mounting system to the "adapted" intel ring, with the plastic clips to secure it. i went to the hardware store and got bolts and washers so i didn't have to use the plastic clips but could use the adapter ring on an intel board. it was a last minute solution, but it works great.
@@abdulwahabibraheem2742 just small bolts and washers from a hardware store that threaded into the intel OEM backplate. they were m3 bolts, i got four bolts in three different lengths because i wasn’t sure which length would be best
The issue with the V5 is availability in other regions. We've been trying to get one in for two months now and one was lost, the other got stuck in customs and the latest one arrived without mounting hardware....
You didn't install the AMD cooler correctly but it is installed for the 6 heatpipe model. I hate the screw on type with the damn springs. So if you can stand the wait and the charges then the MT6 is a best buy :)
Awesome video. I got a dual fan mt6s mounted on my lga 1366 system. I have to say that even tho it was a bit finnicky, installation wasnt really that much of an issue. The plastic push-pins held up through my rather aggressive installation. The mt6s on my atx x58 mobo did intrude on the first pcie slot, so i actually have it rotated so its exhausting to the top of the case. Does an excellent job cooling my w3690 overclocked to 4.12ghz.
I got the vetroo v5 with 5 heat pipes, metal mounting hardware and argb fan and it rocks, aio level cooling for 17 bucks on Amazon (on sale) with free shipping.
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here's the thing, in 5:06 why would you make your life harder when you can loosen the 4 screws of the am4 brackets then tighten it after you place the 2 clamps. no messy thermal paste, no force needed and no danger of damaging any parts. Is that easy?
Did you order them from official store on AE? I ask because mine came packed extremely well (from official store) but I see on many other resellers people complaining about shipping. I agree about quality of plastic clips, it's necessary to ask seller to send few additional ones (they just throw it in without additional charge if you ask) but better solution for Intel platform is what they need in future Btw I usually order two fan version and use second fan as rear case fan :)
Yep always look for an official store on Aliexpress if there is one, and order from them no matter what the item is, and you are more likely to have a good experience.
Considering the BOM of a cpu cooler there’s no reason they should cost so much. I do own a few Noctua coolers but recently bought one of those Amazon Veetro coolers on the cheap(which there are tons of clones just like this snowman cooler) and surprisingly works incredibly well on a Ryzen 7 3700x. I just put my own fans on and added an exhaust fan to the back of the cooler.
How did you manage to break the plastic parts on the intel mounting mechanism on the MT6? It's pretty robust and straightforward; i have the exact same mounting mechanism on my own cheapo cooler. Genuinely curious so i know what to look out for
Already have an ID-Cooling SE-224XT Black V2 myself but I took a look at Snowman MT4 and MT6S coolers as I'm considering upgrading to a better cooler for my older pc that has a Xeon E3 1240 V3 and it doesn't look like I would be getting one. Snowman coolers were priced pretty cheap around ~$10~$25, but they have problems with the packaging like you mentioned. But most reviews on an online marketplace I checked had really damaged boxes for them to the point where some looked like a ball that was kicked around by a bunch of kids. Lots of crumpled boxes so the heatpipe tops were peeking out, and worst ones have the fan broken and the copper heatpipes cracked. Pretty weird if consdering this in Asia and China isn't too far, but that's pretty telling that the packaging or kind of a lack of additional supporting material inside like foam inside the box is the problem for the beat up packages. There's potential mishandling of packages by couriers, but I've ordered a dceent amount of suff fron China and never seen packages as beat up as those Snowman coolers. Even more unfortunate is that some people who got damaged Snowman coolers had a hard time getting in touch with the sellers.
@@HardwareCanucks When you shop on AliExpress, be sure to pick Canadian currency. The default is US pricing, despite picking Canada as region. You'll be charged in Canadian currency on your credit card, and you avoid credit card current conversion rates/fees. One thing you forgot to mention, depending on the shipping method, price of the item, and how the sellers fill the customs forms, you may be charged duty fees.
@@James192p might wanna add, sometimes we can always check parcel forwarding services to see if the total shipping is lower. Though the shipping times will be longer.
I purchased the MT6 black version a week ago and they changed the mounting system already like the MT4 you have. It's doing a great job for my 3300X vs the stock lousy wraith stealth. The ambient temp in my room was 30-32C and the temp on idle was 35-40 heavy gaming and cinebench r23 was 75 at max. Worth it i guess.
@@dallesamllhals9161 You aren't, I bought the non-painted MT6 because I thought the paint could interfere with the dissipation of the heat, I put 2 p12 arctic fans on it, with a 5600 it doesn't go above 58-60°C with max load and with the fans at 42% (+ - 1500 rpm) in a 20°C room, and just playing cyberpunk it doesn't even go above 40-45°C in ultra, I can't believe how good the MT6 is. The non-painted one looks from very early 2000, I guess it works a little better than the painted one and since I don't have any RGB because I hate those fairy lights, I don't really care how it looks, and I'm not so old, I'm 34
Put another fan on it Paul, it will increase it's performance by a lot, use a metal wire or rubber bands, I used a metal wire bended like the mounting braces, is not hard to make and it woks the same
@@TheWayabo I already changed the fan and i used the bioniX p120 from arctic and it improves a lot. Btw using the push and pull setup and I'm happy with it.
There's one thing that makes me worried about such dodgy coolers and that is quality control. One never knows if the next identical cooler performs the same.
They might be OK because they probably manufacturer for other companies but I don't like these companies that steal IP from the people who do the work to design and engineer this stuff.
I've been using this M-T6 dual fan for almost 6th months it's great deal. Bus mine cooler wasn't black and no RGB fan. It has white fans that are attached to M-T4 in the video. Try testing M-T6 with non RGB low RPM fan that comes M-T4 and you'll see downgrade in performance.
Both those fans look oddily similar to another budget king, the Gelid Phantom. The latter is a sub 40 eur 120mm dual tower with 7(!) heatpipes (3 are 8mm and the other 4 are 6mm).. you just rip those two fans (that are decent but they won't run below 800 rpm and are noisy), put two Arctic P12s (for 10-12 eur) and you get a silent, cheap, but extremely performing cooler. The mounting isn't tremendously good without a long magnetic screwdriver, but it's not as bad as these ones. I used to tame a 5800x with it, then got a Dark Rock Pro 4.. and the Phantom + arctic fans was matching the same temperatures (slightly above 80C on both, ofc the DRP4 is quieter, the fans can cope that max temp at much slower RPM, but still..)
T Snowman Cooler Master 5 Cooler is the one I got. Still from Snowman, just different series of CPU cooler. I got for $12 shipped for free (this was before COVID). It did take a couple of weeks as it came from China. But man was the performance worth every penny! Outperformed any other air cooler I’ve tried & is on par with a Corsair 120mm CLC I had.
You can get a Deepcool GAMMAXX 400S for 20$...the Snowman is cool if you live close in Asia or ozzie land and shiping is super low.For me in EU best is a Polish made SilentiumPC Fera 3 for 20€.
I have a Darkflash DarkAir ARGB Cooler, 120mm fan for the 3600 and it's really good. No temps over 60 or 65°C tops at 1.250v and 4.45GHz while gaming. It costed 34usd, shipped all the way over the pacific to south america, with thermal paste to apply. It costed less than a Hyper 212 would've costed. Don't sleep over Chinese products, just keep an eye on reviews and costumer reviews
Deepcool Gammaxx 400/400S or some of the ID-COOLING air cooler has pretty good value in my region (Indonesia), not sure about the price in EU or NA though.
Thanks for this video. Can I ask what you think of the MX6 from Snowmann? It's a 6 heatpipe with 3 90mm fan at 2000 rpm, around 25/30 bucks. Hope you'll do a try on it. Have a great afternoon/evening.
Picked up an MT4 new on ebay for £18.89. Strangely it had the pre-installed AMD mount like the MT6 in this video. Would have preferred the screw in mount.
I bought the non-painted MT6 because I thought the paint could interfere with the dissipation of the heat, I put 2 p12 arctic fans on it, with a 5600 it doesn't go above 58-60°C with max load and with the fans at 42% (+ - 1500 rpm) in a 20-25°C room, and just playing cyberpunk it doesn't even go above 40-43°C in ultra, I can't believe how good the MT6 is for the price, I mean, the Noctua NH-D15 must be a little better, but it cost 4 times the price of the MT6. The non-painted one looks from very early 2000, I guess it works a little better than the painted one and since I don't have any RGB because I hate those fairy lights I don't care how it looks, and the mounting piece is very sturdy, youtubers exaggerate a lot
Nice video, and actually, we in Africa are facing the same problem with Amazon, the shipping prices are way to expensive in contrast Aliexpress prices seem more reasonable
4:20 Regarding the lighting, you mentioned that it has three types, with RGB or WITHOUT RGB or with ARGB IF YOU MAY, my question is what is the difference between the RGB and the ARGB ?
@ 5;44 Is there an Intel 2011/2066 adapter where I just use my own screws? Or will the MT4 mounting adapt to 2011/2066 using integrated backplate screw holes?
ID Cooling 224 see xt works with 3700x stock very well about 60-70c with case, good noise level also. Best thing, it uses secure firm mounting clone, super easy to install.
I bought the MT4 before but the contact was uneven and I got higher temp than the stock Ryzen cooler lmao. The installation was also scary as well. So I sent it back and bought the CM 212 LED for like $10 (it was on sale here) and swapped the fan for the arctic p12. The performance is alright for the price. I think the 212 evo on my intel i5 system was better.
if the base plate wasn't flush, you could have complained to vendor and AliExpress and provided proof. Either a refund or some other option would have been in your favor.
I think too little is made of no thermal compound. For a tech reviewer this is no big deal at all, for a regular person this makes the cooler cost $10 more which brings it up an entire price bracket. At that point you are only like 20% cheaper than the noctua, which comes with a 6 year warranty and will likely last you decades. At the point of upgrading to a new system, and this company selling you a $15 adapter socket adapter, you are at the point where they cost you the same, but one is literally the most expensive prestigious premium company and the other is random Chinese trash. This might make sense for a Chinese person to buy, or maybe even American depending on tariffs, what starts off as an amazing deal turns out to really not be after all the additional costs are added.
So... The cheaper one uses a copy of the cooler master mounting system, and the more expensive one uses a 90s-vintage spring loaded mounting system. Makes sense.
Copy? But snowman is from cooler master... .-.
cooler master, or zalman? i don't know who came up with it.
its outdated. snowman coolers are popular in my country and the mt6 here already updated to screw type.
The Snowman, the TechYESCity favorite!
it's damn great, watched his vid and bought it, worth it. Seem price went up a little bit, got it @ $19.
Still rocking my snowman ⛄ on my R5 3600 CPU never goes about 65 degrees
AND PAIR THAT WITH THA SNOWMAN COOLAH
@@Lennox032 Same here! really worth it and performing great. Got mine for $20 with dual fans
The Aresgame River 5 is often down to $20 US on Amazon (if not, usually $25 which is still super cheap), it has 5 heatpipes, I'm curious how it stacks up to these.
Well, someone bought one for a build they commissioned me for, and my specific one was completely not flat under the heatpipes.
I used a couple of those and it kept a 2400G below 50° while gaming (Escape from Tarkov in my case) measured with MSI Afterburner. But of course i didn't do a detailed benchmark nor i am a professional at it.
Idk prime day is coming up hyper 212s where like 20 bucks a pop so mehh and honestly a hyper 212 is like what 30 bucks when it's now onsale
Its so good for the money, Ive had it for a while then gave it to my friend
I think the vetroo v5 for $26 is better, jayztwocents really liked it and it’s what’s running in my pc
In europe, and i think big part of asia too, you can get them at their Aliexpress price and the shipping times usually varies between 10 and 20 days. Usully it's about 10 to 14 days.
Yes for the countries that have Lazada or Shopee (South East Asian countries) the shipping time is so fast like 4-5 days only. They're like the local version of Ali/Amazon, owned by Alibaba too.
Here in Germany there are a lot sold on Ebay. buyer protection and acceptable shipping time. and they cost 26 € for the MT4 and 31 € for the MT6. no extra cost at all.
@@HarryUnchained yup that's where i got mine and their packaging is great too! Lots of large bubble wraps. And so cheap
Thermalright is doing a good job with their new coolers, should test them out too!
I was able to buy the MT6 but it came with thte MT4 mounting clips for AM4. The installation was pretty good and easy. Also I heard that buying the non rgb or non argb fans are actually better due to them being more quiet than the other versions. Overall it was a pretty solid buy for me, since I live in Asia the price of shipping was relatively cheap and I was more or less able to buy the cooler for around $30
u can buy noctua fan and mount on this cooler and u get better perfocmance from them than noctua heatsink itself xd
@@RubyKaneki😂
you can loosen the am4 brackets so you dont have to force it on then tighten the bracket
Id-cooling se 224 xt also able to compete with noctua. Try it.
YESSSS!!! ID Cooling is like superb bang for bucks, from fans to Air Coolers to AIOs. I truly have no idea why it is not popular in the US. These "techtuber" would be jumping out of their shorts if they could see what ID-Cooling has to offer.
ID Cooling and Deepcool is where its at!
@@carlod803 deepcool as50 if i remember
@@echohotelsix for US$20-25 the Deepcool Gammaxx 400 and the Gammaxx 400 Pro gives Noctua a run for it's money performance wise
@@monapizza6085 its probably because id-cooling is mainly focused on the asia market and their reputation in the west is non-existent but yeah their cooler are insanely good
I own the MT4 very nice cooler, actually helped keep my OC Ryzen 3 2200g cool while living in a very hot room in a tropical country.
These coolers have a huge “Fan” base .......I’ll see myself out 🐐
You need to work on some cooler jokes buddy
Blow away cell-mon bhoi
King
Not a cool joke, did not blow me away.
I have Snowman MT4 on Intel G5400 processor with GD900 thermal paste. The max temperature in the middle of summer was 51 celsius after a few hours of playing Valorant, otherwise it would be max 46-47. For 20 dollars I think it's great :D
Tech YES City uses the Snowman Coolers! That's how I found out about them. Thanks Mike!
Also Mike, if you do see this comment can you guys do a review of Noctua's Passive CPU Cooler when it comes out. Thanks.
First time I saw these on tech yes city ☺️ good to see the specs and hick ups
snowman baby
I have the MT6 with dual fan from 2019 got it for about $20. Still going great today! This thing is awesome af.
Oh thanks for the heads-up I nearly bought the dual fan edition is well it'll be about a month before it gets here but I'm super excited!!!😆
@@brandonmoss7976 grats! I think the new ones have a diff bracket (screw in) which is easier to use.
@@jopppsss well actually LOL I decided to get the one with that weird bracket clamps for AMD because I've never opened my computer outside of just the window.
And I was too scared to actually screw anything in and out the motherboard and I have a wreath max so the one with the clamps would be a much easier process for me I think 🤔🙂
Seeing my comment highlighted surprised me. First time to happen to me.
Anyway, awesome vid! The T6 is a surprise to me too. Didn't expect it to perform that well, along with the T4 in dual fan. I forgot about shipping so apologies for that, and thanks for the vid!
My MT-4 bought in 2019 has the same mounting system as your MT-6, so they must of changed it in the last two years for the better.
I bought my MT4 in Dec 2020, received in Jan 2021. Came with the mounting ring and lock pins.
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Well, its a good thing Malaysia is really close to china. Dual fan Snowman MT6 cost us RM77 (~USD18.60) and the single fan RM67 (~USD16.20).
Just add RM10 ( average lunch money), and I can get another fan..
(EDIT= free shipping)
The shipping is rarely more than 7 days...
It's a small saving, as we are paying bike prices for gpu ler.
thank you, they are amazing and cost about 30usd with shipping in the Philippines.
Snowman MT-4 dual fan for the win! Tier 5 in linustechtips tier list where its competitors are priced 3x to 10x
I actually have the white(silver?) version of MT6. Cost 25$ with shipping. PITA to install, scared the shit out of me. Performs like a champ.
HC should also check out the ID-Cooling SE-224-XT 120mm cooler on amazon for $29, often see it for $22
Nice to see a fan normalized test, also have data for the wraith prism
You are the Air Cooler Guy. And that's why your videos are my favourite on this channel :]
I bought one of these from china, arrived two weeks ago. Dropped my 3400g's temps by around 20 degrees compared to wreath spire. Somewhat rough to install because of the spring loaded mounting system but no complaints whatsoever.
It seems that if you're buying this in the US, you can get the MT6 with free shipping (but not the MT4, although it is a decent $6.74 for FL). In that case, it is a indeed a good deal!
Not only that but just suck a super big sale of almost site 50% off right now in the US. And I got an extra $3 off picked up the MT6 WITH DUAL FANS
As an owner of both of these cpu coolers 🤯🥳🎉 I’m very happy with my purchases and use them on both an Intel and AMD cpu based systems with very good cooling temps 🤯👍🥳🥰❤️
I own one of these cooler. They are just as good as some of the mainstream brands out there. Of cos you can't compare it to those Noctua coolers. For the price, these are excellent compare to the stock coolers.
I bought one of these snowman coolers, the low profile cooler with the fan facing down towards the cpu) for my i5-9400 and it was such a pain to get the clips on. It ended up being so loose that I can spin freely but it doesn’t seem to ‘rock’. I may have damaged the cooling by applying too much pressure idk, it still works fine though, temps are low enough. I used thermal grizzly paste on it too. I want to build into a new tiny case, I have a ‘dtx’ mobo and from some research it seems it will fit into a 3 slot itx case, I also need one that fits an atx PSU though. I’m thinking about getting a aio to replace the snowman but I don’t wanna spend more than $150 on the case+aio
upHere N1065, comes in black and white, 6 heatpipes, with or without ARGB, and doesn't use direct contact heatpipes. Is between $33-40 USD depending on the version
nice review. i was amazed that one beat the noctua.
I got it 3 years ago for 17 dollars with a mounting bracket included. It's just as good as a brand name 4 heat pipe cooler.
Snowman T4 Black Edition is now using the same mounting mechanism as the T6, just letting you guys know. In my country though where the cooler is shipped locally instead of coming directly to China.
Also the mounting kit here both contains the AMD and Intel variants (but stil the same crappy Intel Mounting Kit).
Snowman T6 Black Edition here with 2 ARGB Fans included that should come with a free thermal compound plus 2 mounting kits is around 35.5 USD.
Currently I'm using the Deepcool Gammaxx 400 (4 pipes) and its using the same mounting kit for AMD as the ones used with the T6. They are hard to use AF.
I like this off-brand series, it's nice to see the other options, and resourcefulness in potential budget build parts. Keep it up I look forward to seeing more. 👍
Don't appreciate Chinese companies that steal IP from other companies.
I've bought 3 M-T6's and work superb.
Yes, the installation is kinda difficult in smaller cases, I've cut my fingers a little multiple times when the space is small as you have to press that thing really hard, but that's good enough for the bucks I'm saving myself
what processor do you have?
@@TanvirAhmed-qv5zz 3600, 3500x, 4790k
Do you think this is good enough for i9 9900k ?
@@frank6048 how is it with the 3600 ? OC or not ?
@@IskalimHK it is beyond excellent if you replace the stock fans with some good fans (my mt6 has 2 fans).
Tips for installing this kind of cooler: install the brackets as you normally would, however, loosen the screws as much as you can. Install the cooler on the loosen brackets. Tighten the screws diagonally with a long screwdriver to force the cooler on your cpu. This would ensure that thermal paste is evenly spread and you don't have to worry about the stupid clamps of the cooler. Note: unless you have very delicate hands, you should install it free from your chassis.
To uninstall it, follow the steps backwards. Uninstalling will not require motherboard's removal from the chassis.
Thermal paste edition?
(Thermagic) ZF 12 from Aliexpress versus Kryonaut etc. When bought in big batches the price is very low per gram.
12 W/mK
When i tested i saw zero difference from the gd007 i was using (temps wise).
But i hated how its texture was so dry and hard to apply to the cpu, maybe my paste was very old or something...
The pricing of the Snowman MT4 is a lot more attractive when you're buying several of them at a time, (and pre-pandemic). I think at one point I bought six at once and they came out to $23 CAD all-in.
wow
Like these videos Mike makes, just feel like they could be shortened a bit with some editing.
The mounting installation of the MT6 cooler is actually based on the T20i Cooler Master cooler one, and trust me, they have the same pain in the butt when it comes to the installation, but for the price, it is pretty much what you can ask for.
Hmm, that "spring" system was around - when my first build. Socket 7 AMD K6-200MHz in late 1997!! = Not new and NOT from Cooler Master ;-D
@@dallesamllhals9161 oh, now i know that, man living in the third world country sucks, but still, i guess Cooler Master is heading for them, you know, cheaper price
Took the plunge and got my first proper luxury Chinese product, Xiaomi Mix Fold. Actually really liking it so far (if the hinge holds up).
Chinese brands getting pretty good these days..
where did you have to ship it to? cause ive tried shipping Chinese phones to the US and it just turns out so expensive :(
@@frezieduh3457 I live in Beijing so it's a bit easier that way! Got it for the same price as a Note 20 Ultra.
my huawei matebook 14 feels as or even more premium than my macbook (which admittedly is a bit aged at this point)
@@valuehunter5544 oh yeah. I bought a huawei matebook x pro and I loved it. It was incredible. Had to return it cus of a death in the family. But I really wish I could of kept it.
I guess that's the problem of not having it "locally available".
Here in the Philippines there's a local retailer that stocks these coolers. They also come bundled with slightly better thermal paste, and both AMD and Intel mounting hardware are included.
And since it's "local stock", you're not paying for any shipping from China.
that's sa Pinas. At least Canadians can still have access to those Snowmans thanks to AliExpress. The shipping isn't so bad coming to Canada from China. All depending on how heavy the item is. The highest I've paid on s/h from AliExpress is $20 for shipping on asus prime b350 plus mobo.
Works good on a high core count CPU. Nothing fancy. I got one for $28 with two fans and six pipes, came perfect and mounted easily. Smooth surface compared to $60 coolers.
These are great if you have time to wait for shipping from China, and you are on a budget. Normally I just grab something from Deepcool's lineup off Newegg, or eBay from a US seller, and call it a day as they do just as well for about the same money.
Snowman MT6 2 Fan version only 9.09 USD in China.
Got the MT6 for cheap here in PH. Great bang for our buck and a solid performer. Downside is if you have a built system and you want to change to MT6 you really have to extract the motherboard because of its old ass mounting system.
Actually, I figured out that if you slowly loosen the screws of the motherboard's mounting bracket, you can easily remove the cooler.
However, the catch is that you will need to remove the motherboard to reinstall it.
This way of installation ensure the paste always spreads evenly.
Great video, Mike! I'd love to see more "hidden bargain" videos like this in the future!
Cool, these coolers are really popular here where I live with budget PC builers. You can get them with free shipping and no tax from aliexpress, also you can even get them even cheaper with discounts or coupons. Really good value, but yeah, kina depends on the region you're in.
I'm foreigner. I really like your English! It's easy to understand and nice to hear! Currently I'm looking for some cpu am4 cooler wth max height 156 cm. I might profit from your videos. Thanks for them!
Built a budget machine with the mt4. Absolutely great price to performance.
I've had a CPU cooler that installed like that MT6 before, what I did was press it straight down onto the CPU and have a buddy do the clips. Worked perfectly.
what processor do you have?
Tech yes brought these here.
i had to deal with a similar mounting system to the "adapted" intel ring, with the plastic clips to secure it. i went to the hardware store and got bolts and washers so i didn't have to use the plastic clips but could use the adapter ring on an intel board. it was a last minute solution, but it works great.
Can you elaborate please, what are the BOLTS and WASHERS ?
@@abdulwahabibraheem2742 just small bolts and washers from a hardware store that threaded into the intel OEM backplate. they were m3 bolts, i got four bolts in three different lengths because i wasn’t sure which length would be best
all what matters is the heatsink... you can change the fans to an cooler master fan.. and will be fine
i bought the black one with 6 heatpipes and it outperformed my hyper 212 black
Some of those graphs seems like they should have had the noise and temp axis swapped 🤔
Vetroo V5, right from Amazon for ~$27 US. Can’t be beat. Doesn’t have to ship from China.
The issue with the V5 is availability in other regions. We've been trying to get one in for two months now and one was lost, the other got stuck in customs and the latest one arrived without mounting hardware....
Yeah it does. It's just faster shipping. Most things on Amazon is shipping from China.
You didn't install the AMD cooler correctly but it is installed for the 6 heatpipe model. I hate the screw on type with the damn springs. So if you can stand the wait and the charges then the MT6 is a best buy :)
Awesome video. I got a dual fan mt6s mounted on my lga 1366 system. I have to say that even tho it was a bit finnicky, installation wasnt really that much of an issue. The plastic push-pins held up through my rather aggressive installation. The mt6s on my atx x58 mobo did intrude on the first pcie slot, so i actually have it rotated so its exhausting to the top of the case. Does an excellent job cooling my w3690 overclocked to 4.12ghz.
I got the vetroo v5 with 5 heat pipes, metal mounting hardware and argb fan and it rocks, aio level cooling for 17 bucks on Amazon (on sale) with free shipping.
i dont agree, mt6 mounting system is easy fast and practical
Wonder how the temperatures are going be with Snowman heatsink with noctua/bequiet fans? The heatsink on idle looks very comparable to the pack.
the MT6 has also a double fan config, buying it and shipping from inside Europe costs 10.53€ and free shipping
i don't think it's in black sadly, but you can always just buy a fan and slap it on, prob could find the same fan model
@@etrek1619 yes you can select both black and whiter configs
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here's the thing, in 5:06 why would you make your life harder when you can loosen the 4 screws of the am4 brackets then tighten it after you place the 2 clamps. no messy thermal paste, no force needed and no danger of damaging any parts. Is that easy?
I have the same mt6 and replaced the fans with arctic p12s and they perform great while having a silent operation
Did you order them from official store on AE? I ask because mine came packed extremely well (from official store) but I see on many other resellers people complaining about shipping.
I agree about quality of plastic clips, it's necessary to ask seller to send few additional ones (they just throw it in without additional charge if you ask) but better solution for Intel platform is what they need in future
Btw I usually order two fan version and use second fan as rear case fan :)
Yep always look for an official store on Aliexpress if there is one, and order from them no matter what the item is, and you are more likely to have a good experience.
Considering the BOM of a cpu cooler there’s no reason they should cost so much. I do own a few Noctua coolers but recently bought one of those Amazon Veetro coolers on the cheap(which there are tons of clones just like this snowman cooler) and surprisingly works incredibly well on a Ryzen 7 3700x. I just put my own fans on and added an exhaust fan to the back of the cooler.
How did you manage to break the plastic parts on the intel mounting mechanism on the MT6? It's pretty robust and straightforward; i have the exact same mounting mechanism on my own cheapo cooler. Genuinely curious so i know what to look out for
There is also snowman m-x6 and it's dual tower 92mm cooler. Best compatibility for small cases
Already have an ID-Cooling SE-224XT Black V2 myself but I took a look at Snowman MT4 and MT6S coolers as I'm considering upgrading to a better cooler for my older pc that has a Xeon E3 1240 V3 and it doesn't look like I would be getting one.
Snowman coolers were priced pretty cheap around ~$10~$25, but they have problems with the packaging like you mentioned.
But most reviews on an online marketplace I checked had really damaged boxes for them to the point where some looked like a ball that was kicked around by a bunch of kids. Lots of crumpled boxes so the heatpipe tops were peeking out, and worst ones have the fan broken and the copper heatpipes cracked.
Pretty weird if consdering this in Asia and China isn't too far, but that's pretty telling that the packaging or kind of a lack of additional supporting material inside like foam inside the box is the problem for the beat up packages. There's potential mishandling of packages by couriers, but I've ordered a dceent amount of suff fron China and never seen packages as beat up as those Snowman coolers. Even more unfortunate is that some people who got damaged Snowman coolers had a hard time getting in touch with the sellers.
Gonna add to the IDCooling SE 224 XT comments. It's seriously a good cooler.
that 2nd one is just an evo 212 but rebranded, it has the exact same mounting bracket
I literally LOL at "credit card companies take a pound of flesh" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
For Canadians....they DO!
@@HardwareCanucks When you shop on AliExpress, be sure to pick Canadian currency. The default is US pricing, despite picking Canada as region. You'll be charged in Canadian currency on your credit card, and you avoid credit card current conversion rates/fees. One thing you forgot to mention, depending on the shipping method, price of the item, and how the sellers fill the customs forms, you may be charged duty fees.
@@James192p might wanna add, sometimes we can always check parcel forwarding services to see if the total shipping is lower. Though the shipping times will be longer.
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I think I'd still end up recommending a Cryorig H7 off eBay for around the $25 price tag, assuming you live in the US
As someone who still uses his Cryorig H7 from 2017, 100% yes. It keeps my temps down nicely.
My main System uses an H7 Quad Lumi. It's pretty good, but my 5600x can get a little toasty.(around the mid 70's)
I purchased the MT6 black version a week ago and they changed the mounting system already like the MT4 you have. It's doing a great job for my 3300X vs the stock lousy wraith stealth. The ambient temp in my room was 30-32C and the temp on idle was 35-40 heavy gaming and cinebench r23 was 75 at max. Worth it i guess.
..'cause a "paint job" helps - when cooling? (I'm getting Old)
@@dallesamllhals9161 You aren't, I bought the non-painted MT6 because I thought the paint could interfere with the dissipation of the heat, I put 2 p12 arctic fans on it, with a 5600 it doesn't go above 58-60°C with max load and with the fans at 42% (+ - 1500 rpm) in a 20°C room, and just playing cyberpunk it doesn't even go above 40-45°C in ultra, I can't believe how good the MT6 is. The non-painted one looks from very early 2000, I guess it works a little better than the painted one and since I don't have any RGB because I hate those fairy lights, I don't really care how it looks, and I'm not so old, I'm 34
Put another fan on it Paul, it will increase it's performance by a lot, use a metal wire or rubber bands, I used a metal wire bended like the mounting braces, is not hard to make and it woks the same
@@TheWayabo I already changed the fan and i used the bioniX p120 from arctic and it improves a lot. Btw using the push and pull setup and I'm happy with it.
@@paulcruz4220 That's good to hear, those arctic p12 fans are amazing, I also have it in a push pull setup, cheers
There's one thing that makes me worried about such dodgy coolers and that is quality control. One never knows if the next identical cooler performs the same.
They might be OK because they probably manufacturer for other companies but I don't like these companies that steal IP from the people who do the work to design and engineer this stuff.
I've been using this M-T6 dual fan for almost 6th months it's great deal. Bus mine cooler wasn't black and no RGB fan. It has white fans that are attached to M-T4 in the video. Try testing M-T6 with non RGB low RPM fan that comes M-T4 and you'll see downgrade in performance.
Both those fans look oddily similar to another budget king, the Gelid Phantom.
The latter is a sub 40 eur 120mm dual tower with 7(!) heatpipes (3 are 8mm and the other 4 are 6mm).. you just rip those two fans (that are decent but they won't run below 800 rpm and are noisy), put two Arctic P12s (for 10-12 eur) and you get a silent, cheap, but extremely performing cooler. The mounting isn't tremendously good without a long magnetic screwdriver, but it's not as bad as these ones. I used to tame a 5800x with it, then got a Dark Rock Pro 4.. and the Phantom + arctic fans was matching the same temperatures (slightly above 80C on both, ofc the DRP4 is quieter, the fans can cope that max temp at much slower RPM, but still..)
T Snowman Cooler Master 5 Cooler is the one I got. Still from Snowman, just different series of CPU cooler. I got for $12 shipped for free (this was before COVID). It did take a couple of weeks as it came from China. But man was the performance worth every penny! Outperformed any other air cooler I’ve tried & is on par with a Corsair 120mm CLC I had.
I'm so impressed!
You can get a Deepcool GAMMAXX 400S for 20$...the Snowman is cool if you live close in Asia or ozzie land and shiping is super low.For me in EU best is a Polish made SilentiumPC Fera 3 for 20€.
Or Gelid Phantom (Black)
Wait, is there a reason you didn't just try the dual-fans on the T6? As far as I can tell, the fans should just mount fine without issue...
I have a Darkflash DarkAir ARGB Cooler, 120mm fan for the 3600 and it's really good. No temps over 60 or 65°C tops at 1.250v and 4.45GHz while gaming. It costed 34usd, shipped all the way over the pacific to south america, with thermal paste to apply. It costed less than a Hyper 212 would've costed. Don't sleep over Chinese products, just keep an eye on reviews and costumer reviews
Deepcool Gammaxx 400/400S or some of the ID-COOLING air cooler has pretty good value in my region (Indonesia), not sure about the price in EU or NA though.
Thanks for this video. Can I ask what you think of the MX6 from Snowmann? It's a 6 heatpipe with 3 90mm fan at 2000 rpm, around 25/30 bucks. Hope you'll do a try on it. Have a great afternoon/evening.
Picked up an MT4 new on ebay for £18.89. Strangely it had the pre-installed AMD mount like the MT6 in this video. Would have preferred the screw in mount.
very informative. very cool!
I bought the non-painted MT6 because I thought the paint could interfere with the dissipation of the heat, I put 2 p12 arctic fans on it, with a 5600 it doesn't go above 58-60°C with max load and with the fans at 42% (+ - 1500 rpm) in a 20-25°C room, and just playing cyberpunk it doesn't even go above 40-43°C in ultra, I can't believe how good the MT6 is for the price, I mean, the Noctua NH-D15 must be a little better, but it cost 4 times the price of the MT6. The non-painted one looks from very early 2000, I guess it works a little better than the painted one and since I don't have any RGB because I hate those fairy lights I don't care how it looks, and the mounting piece is very sturdy, youtubers exaggerate a lot
Nice video, and actually, we in Africa are facing the same problem with Amazon, the shipping prices are way to expensive in contrast Aliexpress prices seem more reasonable
ive seen lots of cheap coolers, but when you read descriptions they are always like 90-70mm fan sized lol
4:20
Regarding the lighting, you mentioned that it has three types, with RGB or WITHOUT RGB or with ARGB
IF YOU MAY, my question is what is the difference between the RGB and the ARGB ?
pretty happy with my PCCOOLER CORONA GI-X5R got it here in Philippines for ₱710 or $14.86 free shipping
For a channel that does ITX reviews, please tryout Low profile coolers like the Thermalright AXP 90 copper
@ 5;44 Is there an Intel 2011/2066 adapter where I just use my own screws? Or will the MT4 mounting adapt to 2011/2066 using integrated backplate screw holes?
ID Cooling 224 see xt works with 3700x stock very well about 60-70c with case, good noise level also. Best thing, it uses secure firm mounting clone, super easy to install.
I bought the MT4 before but the contact was uneven and I got higher temp than the stock Ryzen cooler lmao. The installation was also scary as well. So I sent it back and bought the CM 212 LED for like $10 (it was on sale here) and swapped the fan for the arctic p12. The performance is alright for the price. I think the 212 evo on my intel i5 system was better.
if the base plate wasn't flush, you could have complained to vendor and AliExpress and provided proof. Either a refund or some other option would have been in your favor.
I think too little is made of no thermal compound. For a tech reviewer this is no big deal at all, for a regular person this makes the cooler cost $10 more which brings it up an entire price bracket. At that point you are only like 20% cheaper than the noctua, which comes with a 6 year warranty and will likely last you decades. At the point of upgrading to a new system, and this company selling you a $15 adapter socket adapter, you are at the point where they cost you the same, but one is literally the most expensive prestigious premium company and the other is random Chinese trash. This might make sense for a Chinese person to buy, or maybe even American depending on tariffs, what starts off as an amazing deal turns out to really not be after all the additional costs are added.
OLD COOLERS REVIEW PLEASE
AKASA VENOM MEDUSA, I HAVE ONE... LOOKS LIKE NOCTUAS...
the mounting is why the evo 212 uses its own mounting mechanism, not sure why its too expensive compared to this at like 10$ more
likely the extra cost is branding
Great video. Will you do an epos h3 review and compare it with the gsp 300 to see if it’s worth the upgrade?
How about MT6S with dual fans? Will it increase airflow and lower decibel? Please do a 2 fans comparison? Thanks