I knew someone who culled the pile of her employers applications to determine who to interview and who not to interview....She (and it was a woman) told me that anyone with a gender studies major or minor would instantly be placed in the "don't interview" stack, as history had shown her that they tended to have a chip on their shoulder, disliked men as a whole and seldom worked well in groups. And nearly every one eventually filed a harassment suit of some sort. True story.
I mean, that's frequently what I would do, too. If someone presented a degree that seemed utterly useless to moving through the real world I would pass on interviews with them. My reasoning was different, however. I reasoned, "If these are the kinds of decisions they make when given autonomy, then this is an employee I will need to babysit and keep on track constantly. This is an employee who can't be trusted to act on their own. I need good employees, not ones I have to babysit." Why would anyone hire an employee who didn't think more than 5 minutes ahead? Why would anyone hire an employee who never considered consequences? Why would anyone hire an employee who lacked critical thinking skills? Those people can go work at McDonalds or Walmart where not so much is asked of them. I ask for and require more than that. Then again, I also didn't give second interviews to people who were "too qualified" without a reasonable and logical explanation for why they wanted a job with me. Someone sitting with 2 PhD's, a bunch of job experience in positions that pay 2 or 3 times what I'm offering, and asking to join my team? With the explanation of, "I wanted to try something different" or "I wanted to learn something new"? Yeah, someone is a troublemaker at work and was likely fired or told to quit. I'm not stupid. Go peddle your BS elsewhere. There's a moron boss out there who will hire you and learn the hard way, but it isn't me.
Not saying that the interviewer(s) hate the opposite sex/identity, but are looking for individuals who not only are compatible with the company's culture, but not become 'high maintenance' for their company. The very hard push we're seeing on appropriate pronouns and accommodations with the implications that, those who will abuse it (and we know folks will try to push as far as they can) will cause, in many eyes, as potentially high maintenance or problematic cases.
Congratulations on having a job making six figures. There's nothing wrong with trade schools. I have a lot of respect for trade schools. People shouldn't look down on trade schools. A lot of trade school graduates end up with jobs making a lot of money. There's nothing wrong with going to college, but I think people should only go to college if they want a career, job, etc where a college degree is required in order to get the career, job, etc such as an engineer, an accountant, an investment banker, doctor, lawyer, teacher, etc. College shouldn't be as expensive as it is. College shouldn't cost more than trade schools. Colleges shouldn't be a lot more expensive than trade schools.
Awesome! I have a job that basically requires college (software dev at a Fortune500 company), but my best friend is a HVAC guy mostly selling and installing mini splits. He makes a little less than I do, but with no debt. I tell people if I could do it all over again, I would have gone to college for 2 years for ~15k and gone into trade.
I did exactly what Candace did and feel like a complete fool. I never finished school and ended up with about $20,000 in debt. Then at age 44, I'm diagnosed with autism. Which explained why I struggled in school and later in the workforce. But that's part of the problem with college and student debt. There is no guarantee that it will lead to a job or that you will even successfully finish college. It's a huge commitment of time and resources with no guarantee of results. I would have been far better off going directly into the workforce or maybe taking some business courses at a technical school, etc. Even if it didn't go well, I would have been ahead financially instead of behind. Now, at age 53, my student loan has been forgiven because of my disability, and I'm getting things on track. But things could have been much easier for me.
Trade schools are essentially blue-collar college (without the massive debt). To become a master plumber, electrician, welder (etc) there is still a lot of studying and test to pass. Don't assume that lack of a college degree means uneducated.
See my reply to "krist" up above. One of my bowling buddies is a master plumber. He was able to retire at age 58, and said that during each of the last 8 years that he worked, he cleared in excess of $135K. One of my nieces (great-niece, actually) is in an electrician apprentice program, and the master electrician who is her "mentor" told her that with the aptitude and work ethic she displayed, she can expect to be making over $100K within 7 or 8 years. He told her that the only thing that will hold here back from become a master electrician will be the required time that one has to be a "journeyman" before they can become a "master." These days, being a woman does not preclude one from making a nice living in the trades.
@@russs7574 My nephew is 34 and did go to college for construction management. He started his own roofing and siding business out of the back of his pickup shortly after graduation. It is now a multimillion-dollar business (gross). His aversion to using credit along with his recent home and land purchases tells me he is netting a quite handsome profit.
I'm going into plumbing right now. I have about a month left until my courses are finished and I can start working. Bonus for me is that I live in a small town with mostly retired people so I could be making bank here shortly.
Just take a look at the military. Thousands and thousands of people pass through service schools and then get practical experience by working in nuclear power, electronics, aerospace, and so on. Not too surprisingly, many of these folks move on to highly-paid civilian jobs.
$100k in student debt isn’t really all that common. Im one semester away from an associates and still 0 debt, not a single dime paid by my parents (I’m 19). I’ve even built a decent amount of credit since starting college. Those who go to strait into university when beginning college (kind of depending on major) are either stupid or have rich parents. I’ll likely earn a bachelors with less than 15k of debt if any, of course it helps that my gpa makes me eligible for scholarships which have helped out a lot.
@@yaboi8047 congrats to you. you are one of the fiscally responsible ones.......my sons were/are in the same position. My oldest got his degree with about 13-18K in debt and my youngest is following in his footsteps.
@@yaboi8047 WHAT?????? You worked hard to have a GPA making you eligible for scholarships? CONGRATULATIONS! You'll be successful in life not depending on having to vote for a living.
I am that guy she’s talking about . Went to trade school for hvac during high school that cost me no money as it was part of our school system now I make 6 figures . Never once stepping into a university , thank GOD ! I was told in school I would never amount to anything by my teachers haha . This was in the 90’s and they tried to beat it into us if you didn’t go to college you would never make good money . How wrong they were and my how the tables have turned .
Congratulations on having a job making six figures. There's nothing wrong with trade schools. I have a lot of respect for trade schools. People shouldn't look down on trade schools. A lot of trade school graduates end up with jobs making a lot of money. There's nothing wrong with going to college, but I think people should only go to college if they want a career, job, etc where a college degree is required in order to get the career, job, etc such as an engineer, an accountant, an investment banker, doctor, lawyer, teacher, etc. College shouldn't be as expensive as it is. College shouldn't cost more than trade schools. Colleges shouldn't be a lot more expensive than trade schools.
I went to college for a little while because that is what we were led to believe was the only way to be successful. Also in the early 90s. Joined the military, have now been in 28 years and make more than most of my classmates. Don't even need a degree.
The reason why people who are working trades are making bank is because Big Education has done such a horrific job of steering kids towards going to college for the past 50 years, we have a shortage of people who work in the trades. Now your average tradesmen are making more than your average college educated white collar worker.
I went to trade school got sick and tired of all the BS at high school so I dropped out, did my first trade certificate as a Bookbinder/Printer became allergic to the specialised paper and inks by the time I finished my 4 years as apprentices. I went back to trade school to become a secretary, at the same time I was going to night school. I then went back to trade school with Mom as she wanted to become a teacher but did not want to be in a class full of youngsters 😹😹 we did fashion designing and pattern making for 4 years. Mom went on to teach dressmaking. I have ended up with 4 trade certificates but landed in a job through the back door into the technology industry from there I went from a low ranking computer operator to the Data Centre manager. But the best part of all of that it never cost me anything but my time and the supplies needed for only one of those trade certificates. I got to do the one thing I loved and got paid doing it and that was studying new things. Once I landed the job in IT that’s where I stayed for 20 plus years I got to be there at the ground level at the birth of the internet, where it was originally used for corporations to communicate with their offices around the world. When the public first got a taste of it outside of the work environment, where one guy said that the public would never use it outside of their jobs, nor would they want a computer at home 😹😹😹 boy did he get that one really wrong. Now the average person carry’s at least one if not 2 very high powered computers in their back pocket. I never made 6 figures but my 5 figures was nothing to sneeze at. When I went to my last high school reunion I think there were only a hand full of us who were in a dream job that allowed us to have a life outside of work but most of all we did not have heavy debts hanging over our heads. I’m 61 now and retired making money on the side from my hobbies while looking after Dad. I don’t have to worry about silly little things and we got out of the city to the Aussie Outback. And I’m still studying new subjects all the time, like my uncle I’m addicted to learning something new all the time. At least I can say I have never been board out of my mind since the day I packed up my school bag in the middle of my lesson and walked out of my high school class in 1980. That was the smartest move I ever made😹😹😹
I'm a high school dropout and have been in the trades for about 30 years. I make enough in 2 days to pay all my bills each month. I've never had a loan or a credit card
Part of the reasoning I stopped going to on line classes was it became progressively idiotic. I had completed a semester, and was going into the next, our Professor was a immigrant from A Muslim Country. Part of the introduction page to her class was to sign a loyalty paper. I flat out refused, informed her I am loyal to my Country, my Flag and my religious Path. I do not sign any other oaths to anyone. I was dropped from the class and given an academic suspension for that semester. As I informed the review board, I am not going to sign a loyalty oath to any person, they can go get effed.
That is ominous. What does that have to do with anyone's education? It is like cult recruitment. Hitler got the country to swear an oath of loyalty to him, which helped blind the people to his real intentions.
I think it all makes sens once you realize that "Education System" became "Indoctrination System". Or rather a complaisant part of it. Reminds George Carlin talking about education - "people just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork and just dump enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it". And as he said - the system produces obedient workers. Not well informed, well educated population of citizens capable of critical thinking - obedient workers. I guess I am going to be told to wear a tin foil hat after this comment but I am fine with that! 😃
That is so painfully true. If you're a Boomer or GenXer, you didn't plan to have to cough up $75k or more for a college degree. That wasn't on the menu.
If I were the parent of a college applicant, I would insist on knowing their major and course of study before I even gave them a dime. Many young people are very idealistic with little regard for financial independence in their future.
I joined the Navy, retired from that. Became a CBP Officer, retired from that. Now I have two pensions, a VA check, and Social Security. Paid my house off 10 years ago.
My dad did this. Enlisted at 19, retired at 40, mortgage paid off, then worked maintenance/custodial work at a community college for another 24 years. Retired at 64 with two pensions and social security. The “professors” and bureaucratic administrators at the community college he worked at mostly treated him like he was an idiot. They’re all tethered to debt.
I’m also one of those who didn’t go to college! I went straight into trade school to be a mechanic! Now I work on diesel city transit buses making just over six figures! Life is good 🙏🏽thank you!
One size does not fit all. I grew up dirt poor. Did well in school. Worked the night shift to pay for undregrad liberal art university. Got a job. Got a PhD (in philosophy) while I worked. Earned over $400,000 per year. Recently retired in style, with enough to pay for my kids undergrad and advanced degrees in cash. The main reason that you were successful is that you followed your dreams. I'm happy for you but I disagree with you narrow philospophy.
Joke. Two woman friends meet and one starts boasting of her four uni grad kids. "My oldest has a Phd in literature, the next a master in philosophy, the next is a poet and my fourth has a bachelor degree in journalism. I am SO proud of them!!!" "But, didn't you have FIVE kids? What does your fifth do?" "Him? He is a plumber. Thank God for it or we would all starve."
When everyone goes to college, there is nothing elite about having a college degree anymore. When everyone goes to college and nobody goes into the trades, eventually we will run out of people who can build and repair our infrastructure.
@@candycottrell6469 if "citizens here" are too dumb to not realize that not everyone can earn a living telling you about Lesbian dance theory, then I say they don't deserve jobs. Import and create new citizens who know how to fix your car and put a new roof on a house. Some of those guys have been working on crews since they were 13 or 14. Odds are they know more about real life than your average college graduate and will have more money in the bank by age 30 than the other folks will make in their life time.
i remember having a debate with a guy around 20 years ago about mel brooks, and our opinions of his humor were opposites. and it never came to anything other than us agreeing that "that doesn't make either of us right, it just makes us different" and we moved on. i miss those days of civil conversations.
I make 6 figures and went to a private nursing school. The first hospital I worked for gave me a sign on bonus and paid off a large portion of my debt, which was way less than if I had accumulated debt from a uni. Best decision ever! I am so glad I never had a huge debt from going to a university. I also missed out on all the woke garbage they shove down your throat.
I went to a Community College for my Nursing degree back in 1980. Got a basic scholarship. Paid the rest as I went. Graduated debt free. And had an amazing 35+ yr career. For those wondering-yes I took the exact same tests as a BSN with a 4 yr degree. And I aced my Boards (back then we actually got scores on each section).
I was told if i didn't go to college I would be homeless and poor. I had friends go to good schools when I was in the Marines, and a few majored in biology and they worked in labs. Now they work in real-estate and they still have student debt I have none and for a long time i felt less accomplished with my life until now. I really feel like I doddgeed a bullet.
The thing that kills me is that a lot of graduates don't understand that the degree is only the beginning. Unless your education is very specialized, you will need to start at a low-level position.
This was my plan after high school: Join the military Get out with a GI Bill Go to college Get a decent job As of now: Served for six years Got two Bachelor's Degrees, Biology and Computer Science with no debt Have a decent job that pays decent and $100K in savings
Did the same thing after high school... Joined the Navy saw the Million dollar view of San Francisco while stationed on Treasure Island and working at Oakland Naval Hospital as an RP in the Chaplain's Office. Closed down the hospital and transferred to Naval Station San Diego where I served out the remainder of my enlistment. After I got out I went back to college and earned two degrees on my GI Bill. That was 28 yrs ago and I'm so glad I never had to go into debt to graduate college.
Did that 45+ years ago and just retired. I've watched so many squander a fortune believing the education hype. Education is a tool, but if you don't know the difference between a chisel or a screwdriver, a BA in underwater basket weaving won't save you.
Five years in active Army and five are reserves. BS in Business Admin. No debt. I don't know how parents are going on the hook as back up to their kids getting massive debt for useless degrees.
4 years in the Navy working on Aircraft. Got out with an A&P went to work at a major Airline. With a little OT you can make about 130k yr and it’s usually pretty interesting.
She tends to get a liiiiiiittle off track occasionally and she has very big opinions based on very little knowledge. But her voice is a contribution to the important political and societal discourse taking place
But $20 an hour in California is the same as $12 an hour in Kansas. I live in San Diego, California and pay $800 monthly to rent a room. The two year rent increase will occur in November, and I suspect my room will cost $900 a month.
Seriously what an awful degree to get. It has no point in existing as a major, perhaps a minor because it doesn't matter what you minor in. But schools need to always be 70/30 core stuff to your future job, and rounding out your other stuff
My dearest Candace. They are not spending their money. They are spending mine. With all these debt relief programs I am on the hook for their bad decisions. That’s the conversation you need to be having.
My dad couldn’t understand why I, with student loans, am against loan forgiveness. It’s because of everyone who didn’t take those loans or they got scholarships or whatnot and now they have to pay for my debt? That’s wrong
Because that's the American way. Its not enough to raise them up, you also have to spend all your retirement money on their studies.. I'm an immigrant and I told my daughter you want to go to college you'll have to find a way to get in because I am not paying for it, just like my mother and dad told me. Guess what? she is 16 and already has a plan and know what she is going to do because she knows is on HER. I see parents paying for college and the kid is two years into college and still trying to figure out what he/she wants to major in and study.. No way Jose! not on my watch..
You shouldn't have shoved college down our throats while we were growing up. Your generation needs to pay for this just as much as we have to, if not more.
I made $100/hour as a hardwood floor contractor. sure, i got dusty and sweaty, but I liked making floors look awesome and my customers used to brag about me to the point their friends all had to hire me too. LOL I loved being a floor guy. and I even went to college, so it's not like I'm an idiot. I just like to create things. I'm also a great programmer in javascript which I learned to build my own website back in 2000
Smart (mind activity) , knowledge (learned from the surrounding, people, books , experience) , Wisdom (from the creator,sometimes called instinct) . Learned that in college
@magnusqwerty my husband and I are dorming at a University right now and we calculated that just from the family housing alone they have, they make well over half a million dollars....PER MONTH. That's not including all of the money from the single students housing and every student's tuition and fees, textbooks they have to buy for a class, special kits or equipment they have to buy for a class, and more. We found out from our housing representatives that all of the older housing (which mostly consists of the family housing buildings) are not up to code. My husband emailed the housing director about it and he basically said he knew everything wasn't up to code (especially things pertaining to safety) and that it was too expensive to bring everything up to code, so he wasn'tgoing to do it.....there was an electric fire in one complex due to very outdated, faulty electrical wiring. Our water heater also wasn't up to code and if it malfunctioned, it would've blown up with the way they had it set up. In other words, they're illegally selling leases by not bringing everything up to code to keep everyone safe, they half-arse a lot of the work they do (we are constantly having to make repeat maintenence requests for the same thing because they didn't fix it right the first time), and they somehow can't afford to bring things up to code to make it safe enough even though they literally make millions off of their students every single year. If my husband didn't need a degree to work the job he wants in healthcare, we absolutely would not be here right now.
That is almost every institution in the US. People that don’t go to school but still work guess how much money is taken out before it hits your bank account, when you have insurance that you have been paying for years for a “Just In Case” situation and then something happens and you still have to pay a deductible. If you are going to college just make sure you have a plan and not go into it without thought.
Wow this is such a real discussion, my undergrad was mechanical engineering that made me take a sociology course. Yes not a gender studies but I see it as the same thing. During this we watched a video where film makers went to crack den to interview addicts, one addict was crying that society failed him, he is there because he cannot find a reasonable job paying figures, he didn’t graduate high school, no college and all that would offer him work are places like MacDonald’s. We had a debate on this afterwards I literally had to leave the classroom before I lost my sh!t because the sociology majors all agreed that society failed him. Good on you for calling out these BS majors and infecting young minds with garbage!
That class went way over your head and I can tell you never endured true hardship. It’s absolutely not just about life choices as most of the homeless have histories you wouldn’t even want to repeat or listen to as it would scar you. We don’t live in a vacuum and so there are so many factors beyond personal choice that can lead to these outcomes. Look at the opioid epidemic alone …
@@eduardoconuecar1471 sorry eduardo been around way too many low life’s to know the difference between a lazy self destructive human who complains about his situation rather than put any effort towards making it better but its good to know that we have liberals like you crying for them.
Most people in gender study continue their education to go into law, just like most people that are majoring in biology continues their education and go into medical school.
Dear Candace, I graduated HS in '66. There were NO academic scholarships available, just sports. My wife & I each got 25 1/2 years of formal education and became ER doctors. One of her uncles, raised on a Missouri farm with 12 siblings, finished 6th grade. When he died, he distributed 13 farms with their equipment to family members.
My friend used to mock me in college for stressing and having to study so hard while he partied. He said why not choose psychology, it's so easy. Now he's understanding why I said, work hard play later
I went for psychology, and I was blessed to get a job that allows me to use my degree and also earn nearly 6 figures. I know that's not everyone. If anything, I normally tell people only go for psychology if they have an informed interest in a particular occupation like psychologist, professor, researcher, etc.
Ehhhh I half disagree with you. Picking a tough major is putting an obstacle between u getting your degree, and often times the piece of paper is all that matters, not what you majored in. I worked with a girl that majored in interior design. She ended up being a Program Manager, and one of the better ones too. I had a friend that said the same thing. I want to major in engineering and not get a BS degree. I wanted to major in engineering too, but the classes were way too hard, and I got a business degree instead basically.
@@aznnp77 A lot of people drop out of engineering and choose business instead. A lot of accounting majors drop out of accounting and change their major to business due to accounting being very difficult. Engineering and Accounting are very difficult majors. Engineering majors have to take Calculus classes, Calculus based Physics classes, classes involving Thermodynamics, Chemistry classes, Quantum Mechanics classes, etc. Accounting majors have to take classes that involve highly advanced conceptual thinking, knowing and understanding lots of accounting rules, knowing and understanding exceptions to accounting rules, knowing and understanding exceptions to the exceptions, etc. Business Administration is considered an easy major where there's lots of good jobs in the field. Not all hard majors are majors where there's a lot of jobs in the field, and not all easy majors are majors where there's limited to no jobs in the field. Sociology, Gender Studies, Feminism Studies, Women Studies, etc are easy majors where there's limited jobs in the field. Philosophy, Political Science, English Literature, History, etc are hard majors where there's limited jobs in the field. Business Administration, Sports Management, Journalism, Communications, Construction Management, Human Resources, Marketing, etc are easy majors with lots of jobs in the field. Engineering, Computer Science, Nursing, Accounting, and Finance are hard majors with lots of jobs in the field.
I met a chick who was a Philosophy major. She said she was going to be a famous philosopher. I asked how many female philosophers is she studying. She said none
Philosophy was an essential base of all higher learning , now it has been mocked by most students who don’t even know what it is . Philo majors were for teaching it . Its never wrong to study “truth” , something severely lacking in today’s society. They snuck it out the back door when they weaseled in sigmunds psyc (something we did live without, and society was better off)
College is for a specific career. Doctors, lawyers, engineers, healthcare, etc.. you can make the same money in the trades as any of those careers or more
@@Leangreen69absolutely ! NOBODY is more important and contributes to society more than someone who performs " gender reassignment surgery " on pre- pubescent children, right little fella? 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Back in the late 70's my wife was applying to uni and wanted to major in Art, Photography (she has a good eye). Her dad told her that this was fine but that he wasn't going to pay for it. He would pay for her tuition if she got a degree in something that she could use to make a decent living. She got a degree in Microbiology with no debt, ended up in pharmaceuticals and soon after we got married in the late 80's she scored a job at a soon-to-be major biopharma company. We are now sitting pretty in retirement.
I was an apprentice boiler maker - hated every moment of it, but was sent to engineering school as part of the apprentiiceship. I ended up as an engineer with no debt. I loved every moment of it - just retired but have the memories.
Universities subsidize these ridiculous courses at least at the 101 level by forcing undergraduates to take the classes as part of a, "broad education" requirement. The only students who take these classes are the newest students who are forced to take what classes are left over after the folks with more credits take their picks.
Spot on. I wanted to begin an IT career. I also wanted to start my own business. So while working a day job, I studied at my local community collage and learned everything needed to start, with night classes. No debts. Purchased used books. And within 2 years, I was done. By then I was working at a tech company, making good money. I saved and One day I resigned and took the plunge. Never looked back. Not having a gender major never hurt e one bit.
These are the same kids that will be veteran doctors when I'm in need of medical attention 20 years from now and they won't even know my gender nor be able to do anything without consulting the AI.
Neither of my wife's brothers went to college; one's a plumber and the other became a tennis pro then went to work for a sports supply company. Both have done extremely well for themselves and their families. My sister's husband also didn't go to college but instead started his own construction company and is also well off now. The professions my wife and I went into both required a degree so we did go to college and have also done well. The point is there's no set path for everyone, there are many different ways to be successful and they don't all require a college degree. But if you do go to college major in something real and useful or don't bother going.
My son, thankfully, went to a trade school instead of college. He is now 26 years old. He has no student debt. He has already purchased his second house. He has two cars and a motorcycle in his garage. He is also raising a three year old son of his own. My sister, on the other hand, was duped by her high school teachers into believing that she needed a college degree to succeed in life. She got a degree almost eight years ago and is not even half way through paying off the debt. The degree she obtained did not factor in any way, shape or form the job that she was finally able to get. She complains constantly about the debt she incurred for a worthless piece of paper. A college degree nowadays is nothing more than a tremendously expensive piece of paper that may (or may not) look decent in a frame on a wall in your domicile.
In 1992, John Gray wrote a self help book called "Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus" ALL of these other "genders" are pull straight from Uranus!!!
It's the circle of life, Candace: 1) Learn all the current grievances and every possible reason to have hurt fee-fees. 2) Spent a few years developing a new grievance. 3) Spend the rest of your life teaching other people your new grievance.
Most non-STEM degrees are a total waste of money and time. For many subjects, you can often acquire the same knowledge for nothing, and often faster as well. I learned photography in a couple of months just from buying a camera, watching a ton of tutorial videos and getting out there and shooting with it. People who spend tens of thousands and several years to get the same learning from a college are out of their minds. The college is the only winner.
Student loans for University studies should be rated in terms of employment viability. If your taking something like gender studies with limited post graduation employment opportunities. That should impact the amount you can borrow.
I happily took Mass Communications (essentially, interdisciplinary journalism in the Philippines) and got jobs related to communications, starting with the call centre and eventually now in Bid Writing. At the end of the day, you need to know your strengths and passions, and know how to make money out of it. If these factors don't make you money, then, yes, learn another skill.
I teach at a vocational college and we constantly get people coming in who have gone through a four yearr degree college is getting degrees in stuff that just can't make them a dime and they end up going into some vocational field in order to make a living
Community College graduate here. Associates degree in Architectural Drafting. Student loans $2000. Had a job 2 weeks after graduation. Having an amazing career in the architectural field. I'm doing just fine!!
I went to college 50 years ago, the G.I. Bill paid for my books and tuition, I took night classes and worked as a manual laborer during the day. I resent the fact that Biden is forgiving student loans using my tax money to do it.
She should also mention that when they go back into the ecosystem as a professor, they will get maybe 4K per class if they are lucky, and can have their courses cut on a whim (or replaced by a tenured professor).
Trade School is one of the best deals. I know 2 guys who are now employed by Auto Dealerships.... All tools, tuition paid in full upon completion of school. A down side is that after the initial rush they've having a hard time finding things to spend their money on.
Well… I’m in grad school now… and am in class with someone who majored in gender studies in undergrad. Wanna know what profession “they” is going into? Psychotherapy. 😩
There’s a lot one can do if they don’t go down the law, teaching or post grad route. State department, immigration work, non-profit work, women’s health aka the side that isn’t doctors or nurse, etc.
I am a saw filer in a saw mill. If i work 40 hour weeks and thats it, I get 88K. But then I work overtime and make over 6 figures and it depends on how much I work. 2 months of apprenticeship at a tech school is all I needed.
IT IS REAL! I'm a lead-Machinist/production manger who's had no formal training and a high-school drop out to boot. Blue collar is where it's! They're paying for an education while I got paid to get mine....
I’m much older than Candice, and studied overseas in my native country. Universities then were places used to transfer information from older to younger generations. The idea was for a doctor, or engineer, economist, lawyer, architect or whatever to pass the knowledge on those fields so in the future new generations could serve society with said knowledge. There was also research to learn and discover new technologies and advances on those fields… Universities were not involved in politics unless in social sciences like sociology, and those were the students protesting for stuff. Most of those are today doing menial jobs and living their mediocre lives. And even then those were only classes, not full blown majors. Schools were there to teach not to indoctrinate and much less to pamper the students with safe spaces and teddy bears. The insults and fights among students were dealt outside the school and BY the students…no such thing as “feeling triggered, microaggressed, threatened, or unsafe” because of words and school admins didn’t mess with that. Got a fight? Go somewhere else and solve your problem…it was simple and effective. This society is rotten.
what is worse is you are being scammed by the federal government through the collages and universities mean while you will be lucky to get a job in the mail room of a big CORP. or a job as a janitor at the collage you graduated from or a manager job at a local fast food joint all because you majored in gender studies and still have that $1,000,000+ loan to pay back for the next 30 years and in that 30 years you could have bought and paid for a home but no you are stuck paying for a student loan and after that 30 year maybe you will spend the next 30 years buying a home
I loved studying Comparative Literature (English and Chinese literature for me). But I realized what she said my junior year. Being a literature scholar meant my only future was to be a literature professor. To teach more literature students. So I went to law school.
@@RatatRatR Very true. I loved my literature professors. But I didn't want to become part of a closed loop of professors creating professors. All writing papers only read by other literature professors.
When I was 45 I once asked my daughter if she was smarter at age 15 than she was at 10. She laughed and said, "of course." I then reminded her I was thirty years older than her and my opinions were based on real world experience. She listened to me a lot more after that.
I passed this class when I was in junior high school. Our health teacher asked the class how many genders are there and I said 2 male and female. I got an A+
All my life, I was told to get a degree. "You don't want to flip burgers all your life, do you?!" My dad would ask. A few months after graduating, I was job-hunting, but everybody said to apply online. So whole I'm applying online, my dad makes the comment, "You too good to flip burgers or something, son?!" And I just stared at him and threw his words back in his face.
Back in 1963 when I left high school after 3 years of vocational training to be machinist apprentice, I worked in a factory for 3 months then joined the military. In the military I learned electronics, mechanics, and aircraft weaponry. After my discharge I worked for a couple years in manufacturing then became a machinist/millwright. I made a good living for my family with no student loans. I encourage young people to seriously consider the trades as a vocational, they won’t regret it.
something was different about this video but i couldn’t figured out what it was until i realised that there’s no one screaming and protesting in the background lol. nice to hear her speak uninterrupted once.
As some pointed below, degrees in fields like engineering, law or medicine are the only ones worth having, but EVEN THEN you can make the same amount of money by going to trade school (if money is your primary goal that is, otherwise if those fields are truly your passion then by all means go ahead). I think it's more of a mental stigma that people are pressured by their families or that they feel like if they don't go to college they will be viewed as "inferior" or lesser educated with lesser status etc. But hey even if those labels bother someone so much then isn't the smarter thing to do is to get debt free first, make a lot of money, buy a house and THEN go do a degree while you are in your mid-to late 20's etc.?
Judging by your spelling and grammatical errors, whoever gave you yours certifications should be evaluated and given the US military bare minimum IQ test.
Always talked the trades up to kids when I was working. The school was big on college being the only place "successful" students went while I would tell my students that the trades were the way to go if you weren't going to be a scientist, doctor, engineer or other skilled, degreed professional.
Very true. I’m grateful i chose an engineering degree which is lucrative and rewarding. However i have a couple friends who got liberal arts degrees and they’re not even using it. In high school, they push college but don’t even tell you that many degrees are useless. Nor do these high schools check in with their students once they graduate to see if they’re on track. Several of my classmates started at the same college as me, but dropped out after the 1st semester. Which is fine, but that goes to show not everyone is meant to go to college and that’s okay. And jobs need to stop making it difficult for people to get jobs without colleges degrees
Ugh… I learned that the hard way. Graduated college in 2005 when things were still normal. Now I’m in grad school being constantly asked to announce my pronouns and talk about race all the time 😖
@@zoebird5990 Now students for the first week of class we shall discuss the importance of addressing each other by our preferred personal pronouns. You many address me as Supreme teacher.
I went to a welding trade school back in 1980 and it was one of the the best decisions I ever made. I was able to obtain a government loan and had it payed back in a year. In addition, I have never been out of work for more than 2 months. After welding for many years I then elevated to being a CWI (Certified Welding Inspector) and was able to work on some of the biggest projects in the USA. I am now able to live and work in Japan as a 3rd party inspector and live very comfortable. Trades is where long term good paying employment is at (well used to be until Biden Messed everything up).
Let’s face it, much as we like her style, she has a profitable career free of major responsibility or genuinely hard work. Most popular political commentators have no desire or commitment to actually serve as a politician, it’s far easier to remain on the outside and fix the World with UA-cam videos. A shame, but there we are.
I went to college a few years before Candice, and I was scratching my head as to why people would pursue degrees in philosophy, liberal arts, sociology, etc. It’s clearly gotten even more bizarre with the choice of majors today.
Very well said. I don't think that loans and other financial aid should be available to students who are majoring in something that won't lead to a decent job when they graduate. It is just setting them up for a ruined life with a hopeless debt burden.
Most people commenting here are thinking about the recent past when they advocate for STEM majors only. They see college as a job factory. Look back even earlier to a time when university had nothing to do with being a job factory, when it was all about the humanities and seeking knowledge purely for its own sake. That’s how universities started out. We complain about how they’ve been corrupted into a scam today, but look back even earlier and see how they were corrupted into job factories. So don’t go telling me there should only be STEM at universities. I agree there are some bs humanities such as gender studies, but there are others that should be a central focus of universities, such as literature, history, and art. Remember that the European Renaissance was all about the humanities and had far less to do with science and engineering.
I am a career tradesman (Journeyman toolmaker). Developed my skills through an apprenticeship and continued to educate myself until I could program complex multi axis cnc machines. Guess what, I borrowed zero money, and made 4 x more than some PHD folks I know. Retired at 60. Some of the trades have become so technical that it is a solid option for a motivated person to do quite well.
went to a university, college of Engineering, Industrial Aeronautics plus A&P and worked on aircraft for almost 40 years, yes a college 'trade school' with government testing, etc, for General, Airframe and Powerplant. Having to pass a written, oral and practical exam on each of them. It made my career!! Plus, tons of study, stress and accomplishment. Good times!!!! I'm almost 70 and retired now and wouldn't change at all the career choice!!
I have a friend... online friend, never met her in person, we started chatting in chat rooms like 20 years ago....that majored in paleontology. I kept trying to tell her she needed to major in something that would be a real job...but she insisted she could get a good paying job in that field. Ten years after she graduated she was still working in a used book store. Last I heard from her she was trying to go into being a political activist. That was a couple of years ago. Bet she is still at the book store.
I went to a Votech high school for electrician (2 year course), went into the military as electronic tech, then to civilian world doing Telecom. My brother went to college and got an MBA. I've always beat him in income in the civilian world and job availability/variety. It's how good you perform in the chosen field, not a piece of parchment and always working in an HR department, usually for a school somewhere. I am retired and have 500K in immediately available $$$ and will survive above most others = comfortable and safe.
I was in a similar position. Started off on a physics degree. A bit more valuable than gender studies 😅 but you get the point. Now on a computer science degree and very happy with my choice. 👍. Sometimes I do wish I went to trade school but I’ve done similar work and a lot of people after midlife are desperate to get out of it, some of them trades are very very hard on the body after years of doing it.
I’ve been trying to expand my knowledge recently. I’ve been watching/reading all sorts of things to help. I do have a 4 year degree with a business background. I’ve always had these types of thoughts in the back of my mind but hearing it out loud to the level she explained it makes me so mad that this is so true and that people are the victims of this trap.
Dropped out of Community College in 1975 (could not afford a regular college despite a 28 ACT score). Landed a job in a very specialized and technical chemical business and worked my way up the ladder to a Senior Director level. Spoke during my career at Princeton Univ, and Stanford Univ. Earned a very high six figure income, and am now retired in a beautiful home in a midwest lakefront community. You DO NOT need a degree. You "need" to have a terrific work ethic (not be obsessed with work from home nonsense) , be able to think critically, present yourself properly, and have a command of the English language. I did it when degrees were almost 100% mandatory. You can too.
This is why I am very glad my route had changed when COVID happened. Went to community college and completed my general requirements while working which took a while. Now I’m in a state university to complete my bachelor’s degree in Cybersecurity. I’m 23 years old and I know that I will complete and be able to pay off my debt in a few years of my career
Never went to college, worked my way up to better jobs and developed knowledge that made me valuable to an employer, retired early after being in the top 5% of earners, I was making more than most PhD's.
When I was a school boy, University was for the rich and brainy. Degrees in science engineering, maths etc etc were the norm. These days college is a joke, I could have got a degree in repairing wheelbarrows now
I dropped out after 1 year of university in 1991 and joined the military in 1992. Earned my real estate license while active duty in 2001. Retired from military, own 10 rental homes in Tucson, retired from civil service. Today, I'm 50 yrs old and completely financially retired. Life is great in the U.S.
So true! Too many young college students will learn too late that their universities scammed them. I am anxious to learn what the trends will be ten years from now.
I knew someone who culled the pile of her employers applications to determine who to interview and who not to interview....She (and it was a woman) told me that anyone with a gender studies major or minor would instantly be placed in the "don't interview" stack, as history had shown her that they tended to have a chip on their shoulder, disliked men as a whole and seldom worked well in groups.
And nearly every one eventually filed a harassment suit of some sort.
True story.
And if they mention pronouns SHRED the application
Wise advice to share, thanks.
I mean, that's frequently what I would do, too. If someone presented a degree that seemed utterly useless to moving through the real world I would pass on interviews with them. My reasoning was different, however. I reasoned, "If these are the kinds of decisions they make when given autonomy, then this is an employee I will need to babysit and keep on track constantly. This is an employee who can't be trusted to act on their own. I need good employees, not ones I have to babysit."
Why would anyone hire an employee who didn't think more than 5 minutes ahead? Why would anyone hire an employee who never considered consequences? Why would anyone hire an employee who lacked critical thinking skills? Those people can go work at McDonalds or Walmart where not so much is asked of them. I ask for and require more than that.
Then again, I also didn't give second interviews to people who were "too qualified" without a reasonable and logical explanation for why they wanted a job with me. Someone sitting with 2 PhD's, a bunch of job experience in positions that pay 2 or 3 times what I'm offering, and asking to join my team? With the explanation of, "I wanted to try something different" or "I wanted to learn something new"? Yeah, someone is a troublemaker at work and was likely fired or told to quit. I'm not stupid. Go peddle your BS elsewhere. There's a moron boss out there who will hire you and learn the hard way, but it isn't me.
I've seen this exact comment in at least 2 other videos 🤔
Not saying that the interviewer(s) hate the opposite sex/identity, but are looking for individuals who not only are compatible with the company's culture, but not become 'high maintenance' for their company. The very hard push we're seeing on appropriate pronouns and accommodations with the implications that, those who will abuse it (and we know folks will try to push as far as they can) will cause, in many eyes, as potentially high maintenance or problematic cases.
Dropped out of college first semester 4 years ago. Got an HVAC job with no experience & now make $105k+ a year. No debt!
U have won in life
Congratulations on having a job making six figures. There's nothing wrong with trade schools. I have a lot of respect for trade schools. People shouldn't look down on trade schools. A lot of trade school graduates end up with jobs making a lot of money.
There's nothing wrong with going to college, but I think people should only go to college if they want a career, job, etc where a college degree is required in order to get the career, job, etc such as an engineer, an accountant, an investment banker, doctor, lawyer, teacher, etc.
College shouldn't be as expensive as it is. College shouldn't cost more than trade schools. Colleges shouldn't be a lot more expensive than trade schools.
Awesome! I have a job that basically requires college (software dev at a Fortune500 company), but my best friend is a HVAC guy mostly selling and installing mini splits. He makes a little less than I do, but with no debt. I tell people if I could do it all over again, I would have gone to college for 2 years for ~15k and gone into trade.
~180k railroading with only one failed semester in a community college! And they told me id never make money looking out a window 😂
I did exactly what Candace did and feel like a complete fool. I never finished school and ended up with about $20,000 in debt. Then at age 44, I'm diagnosed with autism. Which explained why I struggled in school and later in the workforce. But that's part of the problem with college and student debt. There is no guarantee that it will lead to a job or that you will even successfully finish college. It's a huge commitment of time and resources with no guarantee of results. I would have been far better off going directly into the workforce or maybe taking some business courses at a technical school, etc. Even if it didn't go well, I would have been ahead financially instead of behind. Now, at age 53, my student loan has been forgiven because of my disability, and I'm getting things on track. But things could have been much easier for me.
Trade schools are essentially blue-collar college (without the massive debt). To become a master plumber, electrician, welder (etc) there is still a lot of studying and test to pass. Don't assume that lack of a college degree means uneducated.
See my reply to "krist" up above. One of my bowling buddies is a master plumber. He was able to retire at age 58, and said that during each of the last 8 years that he worked, he cleared in excess of $135K.
One of my nieces (great-niece, actually) is in an electrician apprentice program, and the master electrician who is her "mentor" told her that with the aptitude and work ethic she displayed, she can expect to be making over $100K within 7 or 8 years. He told her that the only thing that will hold here back from become a master electrician will be the required time that one has to be a "journeyman" before they can become a "master."
These days, being a woman does not preclude one from making a nice living in the trades.
To be honest i dont think most of the kids these days have the common sense to learn a trade in building.
@@russs7574 My nephew is 34 and did go to college for construction management. He started his own roofing and siding business out of the back of his pickup shortly after graduation. It is now a multimillion-dollar business (gross). His aversion to using credit along with his recent home and land purchases tells me he is netting a quite handsome profit.
I'm going into plumbing right now. I have about a month left until my courses are finished and I can start working. Bonus for me is that I live in a small town with mostly retired people so I could be making bank here shortly.
Just take a look at the military. Thousands and thousands of people pass through service schools and then get practical experience by working in nuclear power, electronics, aerospace, and so on. Not too surprisingly, many of these folks move on to highly-paid civilian jobs.
what's worse than getting $100k in debt for a worthless degree is expecting our loan to be forgiven by the taxpayers
Right!
$100k in student debt isn’t really all that common. Im one semester away from an associates and still 0 debt, not a single dime paid by my parents (I’m 19). I’ve even built a decent amount of credit since starting college. Those who go to strait into university when beginning college (kind of depending on major) are either stupid or have rich parents. I’ll likely earn a bachelors with less than 15k of debt if any, of course it helps that my gpa makes me eligible for scholarships which have helped out a lot.
@@yaboi8047 congrats to you. you are one of the fiscally responsible ones.......my sons were/are in the same position. My oldest got his degree with about 13-18K in debt and my youngest is following in his footsteps.
The taxpayers are not forgiving your debt. It's vote buying people like biden who does this.
@@yaboi8047 WHAT?????? You worked hard to have a GPA making you eligible for scholarships?
CONGRATULATIONS!
You'll be successful in life not depending on having to vote for a living.
A gender studies major is like a horrible curse: it plagues you and torments you until you manage to pass it on to someone else.
Once you get screwed you gotta go screw others into making the same mistake 😂
@@terrorists-are-among-us Yup, it's like every horrid fairy tale about a ghost escaping its torment by tricking someone else into dying the same way.
The only job you can get with that major is to teach others the same nonsense. So, 1 in 50 (or so) will get a job, the rest of them wasted their time.
@my3dviews It's like a Ponzi scheme.
@my3dviews the other 49 were destined to be unemployed though so it makes no difference neither positive or negative to there lives.
I am that guy she’s talking about . Went to trade school for hvac during high school that cost me no money as it was part of our school system now I make 6 figures . Never once stepping into a university , thank GOD ! I was told in school I would never amount to anything by my teachers haha . This was in the 90’s and they tried to beat it into us if you didn’t go to college you would never make good money . How wrong they were and my how the tables have turned .
Congratulations on having a job making six figures. There's nothing wrong with trade schools. I have a lot of respect for trade schools. People shouldn't look down on trade schools. A lot of trade school graduates end up with jobs making a lot of money.
There's nothing wrong with going to college, but I think people should only go to college if they want a career, job, etc where a college degree is required in order to get the career, job, etc such as an engineer, an accountant, an investment banker, doctor, lawyer, teacher, etc.
College shouldn't be as expensive as it is. College shouldn't cost more than trade schools. Colleges shouldn't be a lot more expensive than trade schools.
I went to college for a little while because that is what we were led to believe was the only way to be successful. Also in the early 90s. Joined the military, have now been in 28 years and make more than most of my classmates. Don't even need a degree.
The reason why people who are working trades are making bank is because Big Education has done such a horrific job of steering kids towards going to college for the past 50 years, we have a shortage of people who work in the trades. Now your average tradesmen are making more than your average college educated white collar worker.
I went to trade school got sick and tired of all the BS at high school so I dropped out, did my first trade certificate as a Bookbinder/Printer became allergic to the specialised paper and inks by the time I finished my 4 years as apprentices. I went back to trade school to become a secretary, at the same time I was going to night school. I then went back to trade school with Mom as she wanted to become a teacher but did not want to be in a class full of youngsters 😹😹 we did fashion designing and pattern making for 4 years. Mom went on to teach dressmaking. I have ended up with 4 trade certificates but landed in a job through the back door into the technology industry from there I went from a low ranking computer operator to the Data Centre manager.
But the best part of all of that it never cost me anything but my time and the supplies needed for only one of those trade certificates. I got to do the one thing I loved and got paid doing it and that was studying new things. Once I landed the job in IT that’s where I stayed for 20 plus years I got to be there at the ground level at the birth of the internet, where it was originally used for corporations to communicate with their offices around the world. When the public first got a taste of it outside of the work environment, where one guy said that the public would never use it outside of their jobs, nor would they want a computer at home 😹😹😹 boy did he get that one really wrong. Now the average person carry’s at least one if not 2 very high powered computers in their back pocket.
I never made 6 figures but my 5 figures was nothing to sneeze at. When I went to my last high school reunion I think there were only a hand full of us who were in a dream job that allowed us to have a life outside of work but most of all we did not have heavy debts hanging over our heads.
I’m 61 now and retired making money on the side from my hobbies while looking after Dad. I don’t have to worry about silly little things and we got out of the city to the Aussie Outback. And I’m still studying new subjects all the time, like my uncle I’m addicted to learning something new all the time. At least I can say I have never been board out of my mind since the day I packed up my school bag in the middle of my lesson and walked out of my high school class in 1980. That was the smartest move I ever made😹😹😹
I retired at 56, as a millionaire, and I have set foot in a college campus exactly one time.
I'm a high school dropout and have been in the trades for about 30 years.
I make enough in 2 days to pay all my bills each month. I've never had a loan or a credit card
Part of the reasoning I stopped going to on line classes was it became progressively idiotic. I had completed a semester, and was going into the next, our Professor was a immigrant from A Muslim Country. Part of the introduction page to her class was to sign a loyalty paper. I flat out refused, informed her I am loyal to my Country, my Flag and my religious Path. I do not sign any other oaths to anyone. I was dropped from the class and given an academic suspension for that semester. As I informed the review board, I am not going to sign a loyalty oath to any person, they can go get effed.
A loyalty paper? What is that? For what? To who?
Loyalty to what
That is ominous. What does that have to do with anyone's education? It is like cult recruitment. Hitler got the country to swear an oath of loyalty to him, which helped blind the people to his real intentions.
I would also like an explanation. wtf is a loyalty paper? what does that entail?
@@birdie4263 you realy don't get it do you
Candace, this also applies to Feminist Studies as well.
Isn't it somewhat the same thing, besides being just as useless IRL?
Starbucks is full of both gender studies and feminist studies baristas.
@@jamesryan4618 this is why i never buy anything in Starbucks, they are expensive and full of progressives.
@@jamesryan4618 this is why i never buy at Starbucks.
Wait, there is a whole degree on feminist studies???? What the hell?
Never confuse education with intelligence.
Never confuse education with learning.
@@bolt4694 huh?
Well said.
I think it all makes sens once you realize that "Education System" became "Indoctrination System". Or rather a complaisant part of it. Reminds George Carlin talking about education - "people just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork and just dump enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it". And as he said - the system produces obedient workers. Not well informed, well educated population of citizens capable of critical thinking - obedient workers. I guess I am going to be told to wear a tin foil hat after this comment but I am fine with that! 😃
They are burning their parents retirement income! Not theirs be real!
yeah you right, ..that's a better way to put in!
That is so painfully true. If you're a Boomer or GenXer, you didn't plan to have to cough up $75k or more for a college degree. That wasn't on the menu.
And I feel sorry for those parents who are swindled in to this shit
Actually, thanks to FJB, they are burning MY money. And I don't even know (or want to know) these dipsh!ts.
If I were the parent of a college applicant, I would insist on knowing their major and course of study before I even gave them a dime. Many young people are very idealistic with little regard for financial independence in their future.
I joined the Navy, retired from that. Became a CBP Officer, retired from that. Now I have two pensions, a VA check, and Social Security. Paid my house off 10 years ago.
Slave to the government.
My dad did this. Enlisted at 19, retired at 40, mortgage paid off, then worked maintenance/custodial work at a community college for another 24 years. Retired at 64 with two pensions and social security. The “professors” and bureaucratic administrators at the community college he worked at mostly treated him like he was an idiot. They’re all tethered to debt.
I’m 47 about to retire from local gov and will get another career, work for 16 years and get my 2nd income and retirement.
I’m also one of those who didn’t go to college! I went straight into trade school to be a mechanic! Now I work on diesel city transit buses making just over six figures! Life is good 🙏🏽thank you!
One size does not fit all. I grew up dirt poor. Did well in school. Worked the night shift to pay for undregrad liberal art university. Got a job. Got a PhD (in philosophy) while I worked. Earned over $400,000 per year. Recently retired in style, with enough to pay for my kids undergrad and advanced degrees in cash. The main reason that you were successful is that you followed your dreams. I'm happy for you but I disagree with you narrow philospophy.
@@arealamericanamerican3204 Just curious. What work did you do with your PhD in Philosophy?
Joke.
Two woman friends meet and one starts boasting of her four uni grad kids. "My oldest has a Phd in literature, the next a master in philosophy, the next is a poet and my fourth has a bachelor degree in journalism. I am SO proud of them!!!" "But, didn't you have FIVE kids? What does your fifth do?" "Him? He is a plumber. Thank God for it or we would all starve."
@@xhagast
Excellent.
When everyone goes to college, there is nothing elite about having a college degree anymore.
When everyone goes to college and nobody goes into the trades, eventually we will run out of people who can build and repair our infrastructure.
Isn't that the point? The elites will have to hire immigrants to keep things running while they live in cloud-cuckoo-land making up nonsense rules.
The people to build and repair will be there. They will just have English as their second language.
you end up "importing" them.
@@kathykuecker will they have the appropriate apprenticeship experience though? And your imported help will prevent citizens here from getting a job
@@candycottrell6469 if "citizens here" are too dumb to not realize that not everyone can earn a living telling you about Lesbian dance theory, then I say they don't deserve jobs. Import and create new citizens who know how to fix your car and put a new roof on a house.
Some of those guys have been working on crews since they were 13 or 14. Odds are they know more about real life than your average college graduate and will have more money in the bank by age 30 than the other folks will make in their life time.
"Gender studies majors" but can't define a woman. Good lord hit the reset button 🤦♂️
😂😅😢
😂 and yet some men wants to transition to a women but yet can’t define “women” but they want to be one hahaha doesn’t make sense
good point
They actually focus on how to evade the definition of woman, that's they are major at.
No don’t do that some of us can still define what a woman is.
i remember having a debate with a guy around 20 years ago about mel brooks, and our opinions of his humor were opposites. and it never came to anything other than us agreeing that "that doesn't make either of us right, it just makes us different" and we moved on.
i miss those days of civil conversations.
I love mel brooks
Liberals can’t laugh at anything anymore!!
One of the best compliments I've ever received was almost exactly that. "We've proven we don't agree, but we can still be friends".
I make 6 figures and went to a private nursing school. The first hospital I worked for gave me a sign on bonus and paid off a large portion of my debt, which was way less than if I had accumulated debt from a uni. Best decision ever! I am so glad I never had a huge debt from going to a university. I also missed out on all the woke garbage they shove down your throat.
You go girl!
6 figures?
Nice.
That's how it's done.
Nurses a special breed. Thank you for your dedication to helping others.
I went to a Community College for my Nursing degree back in 1980. Got a basic scholarship. Paid the rest as I went. Graduated debt free. And had an amazing 35+ yr career.
For those wondering-yes I took the exact same tests as a BSN with a 4 yr degree. And I aced my Boards (back then we actually got scores on each section).
I was told if i didn't go to college I would be homeless and poor. I had friends go to good schools when I was in the Marines, and a few majored in biology and they worked in labs. Now they work in real-estate and they still have student debt I have none and for a long time i felt less accomplished with my life until now. I really feel like I doddgeed a bullet.
The thing that kills me is that a lot of graduates don't understand that the degree is only the beginning. Unless your education is very specialized, you will need to start at a low-level position.
This was my plan after high school:
Join the military
Get out with a GI Bill
Go to college
Get a decent job
As of now:
Served for six years
Got two Bachelor's Degrees, Biology and Computer Science with no debt
Have a decent job that pays decent and $100K in savings
Did the same thing after high school... Joined the Navy saw the Million dollar view of San Francisco while stationed on Treasure Island and working at Oakland Naval Hospital as an RP in the Chaplain's Office. Closed down the hospital and transferred to Naval Station San Diego where I served out the remainder of my enlistment. After I got out I went back to college and earned two degrees on my GI Bill. That was 28 yrs ago and I'm so glad I never had to go into debt to graduate college.
Did that 45+ years ago and just retired. I've watched so many squander a fortune believing the education hype. Education is a tool, but if you don't know the difference between a chisel or a screwdriver, a BA in underwater basket weaving won't save you.
Age 17-39 Military, USN Ret., B.S. Degree no debt it "was' the way to go ... not now.
Five years in active Army and five are reserves. BS in Business Admin. No debt. I don't know how parents are going on the hook as back up to their kids getting massive debt for useless degrees.
4 years in the Navy working on Aircraft. Got out with an A&P went to work at a major Airline. With a little OT you can make about 130k yr and it’s usually pretty interesting.
Candace Owens is great!!! I've lost respect for anyone saying bad things about her.
She tends to get a liiiiiiittle off track occasionally and she has very big opinions based on very little knowledge. But her voice is a contribution to the important political and societal discourse taking place
I am with you! She is an intelligent, articulate, nuanced, well-reasoned and logical young lady.
@@MFUA-cam683Thankfully your opinion of that is not what people turned in for. 😊
She is there just for the money.
@@TheBlockbuster1982and you are there for what?
Lots of jobs for Gender Studies! Barista, Stock Clerk, Cashier, Wait-person, etc. In CA you get $20/hr.
But $20 an hour in California is the same as $12 an hour in Kansas. I live in San Diego,
California and pay $800 monthly to rent a room. The two year rent increase will occur
in November, and I suspect my room will cost $900 a month.
Seriously what an awful degree to get. It has no point in existing as a major, perhaps a minor because it doesn't matter what you minor in. But schools need to always be 70/30 core stuff to your future job, and rounding out your other stuff
My dearest Candace. They are not spending their money. They are spending mine. With all these debt relief programs I am on the hook for their bad decisions. That’s the conversation you need to be having.
My dad couldn’t understand why I, with student loans, am against loan forgiveness. It’s because of everyone who didn’t take those loans or they got scholarships or whatnot and now they have to pay for my debt? That’s wrong
So true, Kris!
Because that's the American way. Its not enough to raise them up, you also have to spend all your retirement money on their studies.. I'm an immigrant and I told my daughter you want to go to college you'll have to find a way to get in because I am not paying for it, just like my mother and dad told me. Guess what? she is 16 and already has a plan and know what she is going to do because she knows is on HER. I see parents paying for college and the kid is two years into college and still trying to figure out what he/she wants to major in and study.. No way Jose! not on my watch..
I’d say they are spending “tax payers” money.
You shouldn't have shoved college down our throats while we were growing up. Your generation needs to pay for this just as much as we have to, if not more.
I made $100/hour as a hardwood floor contractor. sure, i got dusty and sweaty, but I liked making floors look awesome and my customers used to brag about me to the point their friends all had to hire me too. LOL I loved being a floor guy. and I even went to college, so it's not like I'm an idiot. I just like to create things. I'm also a great programmer in javascript which I learned to build my own website back in 2000
You’re not an idiot because you don’t go to college, 😂 even if you hadn’t went, you’re smarter than most people having a steady, well paying career
Smart (mind activity) , knowledge (learned from the surrounding, people, books , experience) , Wisdom (from the creator,sometimes called instinct) . Learned that in college
“Seek knowledge and Wisdom always, with the latter being the greater” -the owners manual
“The certificate brings death, the spirit within you brings life” -Jesus
Universities are like banks, milking the big cow; students.
More like pimps.👊🏾🪖🇺🇸✝️
@magnusqwerty my husband and I are dorming at a University right now and we calculated that just from the family housing alone they have, they make well over half a million dollars....PER MONTH. That's not including all of the money from the single students housing and every student's tuition and fees, textbooks they have to buy for a class, special kits or equipment they have to buy for a class, and more. We found out from our housing representatives that all of the older housing (which mostly consists of the family housing buildings) are not up to code. My husband emailed the housing director about it and he basically said he knew everything wasn't up to code (especially things pertaining to safety) and that it was too expensive to bring everything up to code, so he wasn'tgoing to do it.....there was an electric fire in one complex due to very outdated, faulty electrical wiring. Our water heater also wasn't up to code and if it malfunctioned, it would've blown up with the way they had it set up.
In other words, they're illegally selling leases by not bringing everything up to code to keep everyone safe, they half-arse a lot of the work they do (we are constantly having to make repeat maintenence requests for the same thing because they didn't fix it right the first time), and they somehow can't afford to bring things up to code to make it safe enough even though they literally make millions off of their students every single year.
If my husband didn't need a degree to work the job he wants in healthcare, we absolutely would not be here right now.
They are more like a
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That is almost every institution in the US. People that don’t go to school but still work guess how much money is taken out before it hits your bank account, when you have insurance that you have been paying for years for a “Just In Case” situation and then something happens and you still have to pay a deductible. If you are going to college just make sure you have a plan and not go into it without thought.
Colleges and universities are where older leftist professors and administrators financially rip off the young and naive.
Wow this is such a real discussion, my undergrad was mechanical engineering that made me take a sociology course. Yes not a gender studies but I see it as the same thing. During this we watched a video where film makers went to crack den to interview addicts, one addict was crying that society failed him, he is there because he cannot find a reasonable job paying figures, he didn’t graduate high school, no college and all that would offer him work are places like MacDonald’s. We had a debate on this afterwards I literally had to leave the classroom before I lost my sh!t because the sociology majors all agreed that society failed him. Good on you for calling out these BS majors and infecting young minds with garbage!
That person failed themselves, no fault other than your own. I went into trades also and did the schooling and the time. I make great money now.
It's easy to blame society, but to blame themselves it's different, I have to say you were patient, I would have screamed calling it all BS
That class went way over your head and I can tell you never endured true hardship. It’s absolutely not just about life choices as most of the homeless have histories you wouldn’t even want to repeat or listen to as it would scar you. We don’t live in a vacuum and so there are so many factors beyond personal choice that can lead to these outcomes. Look at the opioid epidemic alone …
@@eduardoconuecar1471 what went over was the BS being shoved into people's heads.
@@eduardoconuecar1471 sorry eduardo been around way too many low life’s to know the difference between a lazy self destructive human who complains about his situation rather than put any effort towards making it better but its good to know that we have liberals like you crying for them.
I run my own company and I only have grade 9. I hire people with college debt to paint for me. 😂
lol nice 😂
Lmfao!
There is a saying..."A and B students work for C and D students".
Better off taking a biology major than a gender studies major. But they won't because it's too hard for them.
😂😂😂😂 why so they don't learn a thing correctly
That way they’d actually be able to answer the question, “what is a woman?”
Biology is the worst STEM major out there in terms of earning and job demand.
Most people in gender study continue their education to go into law, just like most people that are majoring in biology continues their education and go into medical school.
Well gender dysphoria has to do with the biology of the brain. So even there the definition isn't as cut and dry as you would like.
Dear Candace, I graduated HS in '66. There were NO academic scholarships available, just sports. My wife & I each got 25 1/2 years of formal education and became ER doctors. One of her uncles, raised on a Missouri farm with 12 siblings, finished 6th grade. When he died, he distributed 13 farms with their equipment to family members.
Great story, thank for posting!😀
My friend used to mock me in college for stressing and having to study so hard while he partied.
He said why not choose psychology, it's so easy. Now he's understanding why I said, work hard play later
I have studied, while you have slept, I have worked while you have partied, I have read while you have wasted - great quote!
I went for psychology, and I was blessed to get a job that allows me to use my degree and also earn nearly 6 figures. I know that's not everyone. If anything, I normally tell people only go for psychology if they have an informed interest in a particular occupation like psychologist, professor, researcher, etc.
@alwayspooh1588 Yes, my friend did both. Just in reverse order.
Partied back then, now works hard the rest of his life, unfortunately.
Ehhhh I half disagree with you. Picking a tough major is putting an obstacle between u getting your degree, and often times the piece of paper is all that matters, not what you majored in. I worked with a girl that majored in interior design. She ended up being a Program Manager, and one of the better ones too. I had a friend that said the same thing. I want to major in engineering and not get a BS degree. I wanted to major in engineering too, but the classes were way too hard, and I got a business degree instead basically.
@@aznnp77 A lot of people drop out of engineering and choose business instead. A lot of accounting majors drop out of accounting and change their major to business due to accounting being very difficult. Engineering and Accounting are very difficult majors. Engineering majors have to take Calculus classes, Calculus based Physics classes, classes involving Thermodynamics, Chemistry classes, Quantum Mechanics classes, etc. Accounting majors have to take classes that involve highly advanced conceptual thinking, knowing and understanding lots of accounting rules, knowing and understanding exceptions to accounting rules, knowing and understanding exceptions to the exceptions, etc. Business Administration is considered an easy major where there's lots of good jobs in the field.
Not all hard majors are majors where there's a lot of jobs in the field, and not all easy majors are majors where there's limited to no jobs in the field. Sociology, Gender Studies, Feminism Studies, Women Studies, etc are easy majors where there's limited jobs in the field. Philosophy, Political Science, English Literature, History, etc are hard majors where there's limited jobs in the field. Business Administration, Sports Management, Journalism, Communications, Construction Management, Human Resources, Marketing, etc are easy majors with lots of jobs in the field. Engineering, Computer Science, Nursing, Accounting, and Finance are hard majors with lots of jobs in the field.
I met a chick who was a Philosophy major. She said she was going to be a famous philosopher. I asked how many female philosophers is she studying. She said none
😂😂😂 and all those philosophers probably didn’t really go to college
@@PS-ic4bp neither do most billionaires
What's the Most Important Question for a Philosophy Major.....
"Do you want Fries with that"
@@NRDavis-wl8vn Or "for 20 cents more you can get a large"
Philosophy was an essential base of all higher learning , now it has been mocked by most students who don’t even know what it is . Philo majors were for teaching it . Its never wrong to study “truth” , something severely lacking in today’s society. They snuck it out the back door when they weaseled in sigmunds psyc (something we did live without, and society was better off)
College is for a specific career. Doctors, lawyers, engineers, healthcare, etc.. you can make the same money in the trades as any of those careers or more
I am in my late 30s and I’m considering going into the trades. Do you have any recommendations or tips?
@rs7458 I am a cnc machinist, well all around machinist. I make decent money and I love it
Nowadays colleges are scams.
@@Leangreen69okay?
@@Leangreen69absolutely ! NOBODY is more important and contributes to society more than someone who performs " gender reassignment surgery " on pre- pubescent children, right little fella? 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Back in the late 70's my wife was applying to uni and wanted to major in Art, Photography (she has a good eye). Her dad told her that this was fine but that he wasn't going to pay for it. He would pay for her tuition if she got a degree in something that she could use to make a decent living. She got a degree in Microbiology with no debt, ended up in pharmaceuticals and soon after we got married in the late 80's she scored a job at a soon-to-be major biopharma company. We are now sitting pretty in retirement.
I didn't go to college, but I did get an apprenticeship, when I retired about 10 years ago I was making 6 figures and loved my job.
If I had kids, that's what I'd encourage them to do.
I'm another high-school only, six-figure, retired at 55 person.
I was an apprentice boiler maker - hated every moment of it, but was sent to engineering school as part of the apprentiiceship. I ended up as an engineer with no debt. I loved every moment of it - just retired but have the memories.
Universities subsidize these ridiculous courses at least at the 101 level by forcing undergraduates to take the classes as part of a, "broad education" requirement. The only students who take these classes are the newest students who are forced to take what classes are left over after the folks with more credits take their picks.
Spot on. I wanted to begin an IT career. I also wanted to start my own business. So while working a day job, I studied at my local community collage and learned everything needed to start, with night classes.
No debts. Purchased used books. And within 2 years, I was done. By then I was working at a tech company, making good money. I saved and One day I resigned and took the plunge. Never looked back. Not having a gender major never hurt e one bit.
These are the same kids that will be veteran doctors when I'm in need of medical attention 20 years from now and they won't even know my gender nor be able to do anything without consulting the AI.
Neither of my wife's brothers went to college; one's a plumber and the other became a tennis pro then went to work for a sports supply company. Both have done extremely well for themselves and their families. My sister's husband also didn't go to college but instead started his own construction company and is also well off now. The professions my wife and I went into both required a degree so we did go to college and have also done well. The point is there's no set path for everyone, there are many different ways to be successful and they don't all require a college degree. But if you do go to college major in something real and useful or don't bother going.
And don't blame society for your debt when you made the choice to major in something useless.
My son, thankfully, went to a trade school instead of college. He is now 26 years old. He has no student debt. He has already purchased his second house. He has two cars and a motorcycle in his garage. He is also raising a three year old son of his own. My sister, on the other hand, was duped by her high school teachers into believing that she needed a college degree to succeed in life. She got a degree almost eight years ago and is not even half way through paying off the debt. The degree she obtained did not factor in any way, shape or form the job that she was finally able to get. She complains constantly about the debt she incurred for a worthless piece of paper. A college degree nowadays is nothing more than a tremendously expensive piece of paper that may (or may not) look decent in a frame on a wall in your domicile.
sociology and communications were the basket weaving degrees of 1980's..now they got gender studies and ethnic studies.
I remember poly sci was the meme back in like the 2000s
In 1992, John Gray wrote a self help book called "Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus"
ALL of these other "genders" are pull straight from Uranus!!!
It's the circle of life, Candace:
1) Learn all the current grievances and every possible reason to have hurt fee-fees.
2) Spent a few years developing a new grievance.
3) Spend the rest of your life teaching other people your new grievance.
Gender's studies is this generation version of a "philosophy degree"
Please: philosophy is interesting, because it examines subjects like ethics. Gender studies ranks alongside sociology.
No, studying philosophy is about learning how to live a better life.
Something way more seriously good than the inanity of gender studies.
@@scottjones1109Nah it's a waste of money. That's why everyone makes fun of it.
@@clogs4956 Nah it's a waste of money. That's why everyone makes fun of it.
You just triggered a couple philosophy majors😂😂😂
Most non-STEM degrees are a total waste of money and time. For many subjects, you can often acquire the same knowledge for nothing, and often faster as well. I learned photography in a couple of months just from buying a camera, watching a ton of tutorial videos and getting out there and shooting with it.
People who spend tens of thousands and several years to get the same learning from a college are out of their minds. The college is the only winner.
Student loans for University studies should be rated in terms of employment viability. If your taking something like gender studies with limited post graduation employment opportunities. That should impact the amount you can borrow.
The one thing that post secondary education doesn't nor can't teach. That is financial literacy and financial intelligence.
I happily took Mass Communications (essentially, interdisciplinary journalism in the Philippines) and got jobs related to communications, starting with the call centre and eventually now in Bid Writing. At the end of the day, you need to know your strengths and passions, and know how to make money out of it. If these factors don't make you money, then, yes, learn another skill.
I teach at a vocational college and we constantly get people coming in who have gone through a four yearr degree college is getting degrees in stuff that just can't make them a dime and they end up going into some vocational field in order to make a living
This video needs to be shown to every high school student.
Community College graduate here. Associates degree in Architectural Drafting. Student loans $2000. Had a job 2 weeks after graduation. Having an amazing career in the architectural field. I'm doing just fine!!
The people who will make the most money in the next fifty years are people who know how to fix things.
I went to college 50 years ago, the G.I. Bill paid for my books and tuition, I took night classes and worked as a manual laborer during the day. I resent the fact that Biden is forgiving student loans using my tax money to do it.
Adding gender studies degree and pronouns to a resume is a great way to let hiring managers know to shit can your application.
She should also mention that when they go back into the ecosystem as a professor, they will get maybe 4K per class if they are lucky, and can have their courses cut on a whim (or replaced by a tenured professor).
Trade School is one of the best deals. I know 2 guys who are now employed by Auto Dealerships....
All tools, tuition paid in full upon completion of school. A down side is that after the initial rush they've having a hard time finding things to spend their money on.
I honestly don't know what one can do with a Gender Studies degree. I've seen some schools have a Queer Studies major.
Well… I’m in grad school now… and am in class with someone who majored in gender studies in undergrad. Wanna know what profession “they” is going into? Psychotherapy. 😩
There’s a lot one can do if they don’t go down the law, teaching or post grad route. State department, immigration work, non-profit work, women’s health aka the side that isn’t doctors or nurse, etc.
I am a saw filer in a saw mill. If i work 40 hour weeks and thats it, I get 88K. But then I work overtime and make over 6 figures and it depends on how much I work. 2 months of apprenticeship at a tech school is all I needed.
Im that air conditioning guy. It's real.
IT IS REAL! I'm a lead-Machinist/production manger who's had no formal training and a high-school drop out to boot. Blue collar is where it's! They're paying for an education while I got paid to get mine....
@@RustyShacklefordsGribble-lw5dc no regerts! Charge em double lolol. They will pay it.
I’m much older than Candice, and studied overseas in my native country. Universities then were places used to transfer information from older to younger generations. The idea was for a doctor, or engineer, economist, lawyer, architect or whatever to pass the knowledge on those fields so in the future new generations could serve society with said knowledge. There was also research to learn and discover new technologies and advances on those fields…
Universities were not involved in politics unless in social sciences like sociology, and those were the students protesting for stuff. Most of those are today doing menial jobs and living their mediocre lives. And even then those were only classes, not full blown majors. Schools were there to teach not to indoctrinate and much less to pamper the students with safe spaces and teddy bears. The insults and fights among students were dealt outside the school and BY the students…no such thing as “feeling triggered, microaggressed, threatened, or unsafe” because of words and school admins didn’t mess with that. Got a fight? Go somewhere else and solve your problem…it was simple and effective.
This society is rotten.
what is worse is you are being scammed by the federal government through the collages and universities mean while you will be lucky to get a job in the mail room of a big CORP. or a job as a janitor at the collage you graduated from or a manager job at a local fast food joint all because you majored in gender studies and still have that $1,000,000+ loan to pay back for the next 30 years and in that 30 years you could have bought and paid for a home but no you are stuck paying for a student loan and after that 30 year maybe you will spend the next 30 years buying a home
The promise of student debt forgiveness has further emboldened students to take these absurd majors
I loved studying Comparative Literature (English and Chinese literature for me). But I realized what she said my junior year. Being a literature scholar meant my only future was to be a literature professor. To teach more literature students. So I went to law school.
There isn't anything inherently wrong with becoming a literature professor.
@@RatatRatR Very true. I loved my literature professors. But I didn't want to become part of a closed loop of professors creating professors. All writing papers only read by other literature professors.
When I was 45 I once asked my daughter if she was smarter at age 15 than she was at 10. She laughed and said, "of course." I then reminded her I was thirty years older than her and my opinions were based on real world experience. She listened to me a lot more after that.
Silly me, I thought poli-sci was the most unimportant major. 😅
Every kid finishing high school needs to hear this mesaage. She is 100% correct.
My nephew told me about profs initiating nap time and profs handing out cookies...university is kindergarten, these days.
I passed this class when I was in junior high school. Our health teacher asked the class how many genders are there and I said 2 male and female. I got an A+
Fight the infection!!!!!!!
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All my life, I was told to get a degree. "You don't want to flip burgers all your life, do you?!" My dad would ask. A few months after graduating, I was job-hunting, but everybody said to apply online. So whole I'm applying online, my dad makes the comment, "You too good to flip burgers or something, son?!" And I just stared at him and threw his words back in his face.
Good point Candace ❤
Back in 1963 when I left high school after 3 years of vocational training to be machinist apprentice, I worked in a factory for 3 months then joined the military. In the military I learned electronics, mechanics, and aircraft weaponry. After my discharge I worked for a couple years in manufacturing then became a machinist/millwright. I made a good living for my family with no student loans. I encourage young people to seriously consider the trades as a vocational, they won’t regret it.
Christ is King 🫡
something was different about this video but i couldn’t figured out what it was until i realised that there’s no one screaming and protesting in the background lol. nice to hear her speak uninterrupted once.
AMEN
As some pointed below, degrees in fields like engineering, law or medicine are the only ones worth having, but EVEN THEN you can make the same amount of money by going to trade school (if money is your primary goal that is, otherwise if those fields are truly your passion then by all means go ahead). I think it's more of a mental stigma that people are pressured by their families or that they feel like if they don't go to college they will be viewed as "inferior" or lesser educated with lesser status etc. But hey even if those labels bother someone so much then isn't the smarter thing to do is to get debt free first, make a lot of money, buy a house and THEN go do a degree while you are in your mid-to late 20's etc.?
You will needme before you need 90% of people than went to university/college.
I'm a plumber and I earn 6 figures easy
Judging by your spelling and grammatical errors, whoever gave you yours certifications should be evaluated and given the US military bare minimum IQ test.
Always talked the trades up to kids when I was working. The school was big on college being the only place "successful" students went while I would tell my students that the trades were the way to go if you weren't going to be a scientist, doctor, engineer or other skilled, degreed professional.
A PhD in Gender Studies - would you like fries with that?
Very true. I’m grateful i chose an engineering degree which is lucrative and rewarding. However i have a couple friends who got liberal arts degrees and they’re not even using it.
In high school, they push college but don’t even tell you that many degrees are useless. Nor do these high schools check in with their students once they graduate to see if they’re on track. Several of my classmates started at the same college as me, but dropped out after the 1st semester. Which is fine, but that goes to show not everyone is meant to go to college and that’s okay. And jobs need to stop making it difficult for people to get jobs without colleges degrees
Yeah, college isn't what it used to be anymore. ):
Ugh… I learned that the hard way. Graduated college in 2005 when things were still normal. Now I’m in grad school being constantly asked to announce my pronouns and talk about race all the time 😖
@@zoebird5990Yikes. D:
@@zoebird5990
Now students for the first week of class we shall discuss the importance of addressing each other by our preferred personal pronouns. You many address
me as Supreme teacher.
I went to a welding trade school back in 1980 and it was one of the the best decisions I ever made. I was able to obtain a government loan and had it payed back in a year. In addition, I have never been out of work for more than 2 months.
After welding for many years I then elevated to being a CWI (Certified Welding Inspector) and was able to work on some of the biggest projects in the USA.
I am now able to live and work in Japan as a 3rd party inspector and live very comfortable.
Trades is where long term good paying employment is at (well used to be until Biden Messed everything up).
When will Candace run for president of the US?
No she said multiple times that she doesn't want to.
Let’s face it, much as we like her style, she has a profitable career free of major responsibility or genuinely hard work. Most popular political commentators have no desire or commitment to actually serve as a politician, it’s far easier to remain on the outside and fix the World with UA-cam videos. A shame, but there we are.
I went to college a few years before Candice, and I was scratching my head as to why people would pursue degrees in philosophy, liberal arts, sociology, etc.
It’s clearly gotten even more bizarre with the choice of majors today.
Very well said. I don't think that loans and other financial aid should be available to students who are majoring in something that won't lead to a decent job when they graduate. It is just setting them up for a ruined life with a hopeless debt burden.
Most people commenting here are thinking about the recent past when they advocate for STEM majors only. They see college as a job factory.
Look back even earlier to a time when university had nothing to do with being a job factory, when it was all about the humanities and seeking knowledge purely for its own sake. That’s how universities started out. We complain about how they’ve been corrupted into a scam today, but look back even earlier and see how they were corrupted into job factories. So don’t go telling me there should only be STEM at universities. I agree there are some bs humanities such as gender studies, but there are others that should be a central focus of universities, such as literature, history, and art. Remember that the European Renaissance was all about the humanities and had far less to do with science and engineering.
I am a career tradesman (Journeyman toolmaker). Developed my skills through an apprenticeship and continued to educate myself until I could program complex multi axis cnc machines. Guess what, I borrowed zero money, and made 4 x more than some PHD folks I know. Retired at 60. Some of the trades have become so technical that it is a solid option for a motivated person to do quite well.
went to a university, college of Engineering, Industrial Aeronautics plus A&P and worked on aircraft for almost 40 years, yes a college 'trade school' with government testing, etc, for General, Airframe and Powerplant. Having to pass a written, oral and practical exam on each of them. It made my career!! Plus, tons of study, stress and accomplishment. Good times!!!! I'm almost 70 and retired now and wouldn't change at all the career choice!!
I have a friend... online friend, never met her in person, we started chatting in chat rooms like 20 years ago....that majored in paleontology. I kept trying to tell her she needed to major in something that would be a real job...but she insisted she could get a good paying job in that field. Ten years after she graduated she was still working in a used book store. Last I heard from her she was trying to go into being a political activist. That was a couple of years ago. Bet she is still at the book store.
I went to a Votech high school for electrician (2 year course), went into the military as electronic tech, then to civilian world doing Telecom. My brother went to college and got an MBA. I've always beat him in income in the civilian world and job availability/variety. It's how good you perform in the chosen field, not a piece of parchment and always working in an HR department, usually for a school somewhere. I am retired and have 500K in immediately available $$$ and will survive above most others = comfortable and safe.
Blue collar here, retired at 58 with 0 debt.
I was in a similar position. Started off on a physics degree. A bit more valuable than gender studies 😅 but you get the point.
Now on a computer science degree and very happy with my choice. 👍.
Sometimes I do wish I went to trade school but I’ve done similar work and a lot of people after midlife are desperate to get out of it, some of them trades are very very hard on the body after years of doing it.
I’ve been trying to expand my knowledge recently. I’ve been watching/reading all sorts of things to help. I do have a 4 year degree with a business background. I’ve always had these types of thoughts in the back of my mind but hearing it out loud to the level she explained it makes me so mad that this is so true and that people are the victims of this trap.
Dropped out of Community College in 1975 (could not afford a regular college despite a 28 ACT score). Landed a job in a very specialized and technical chemical business and worked my way up the ladder to a Senior Director level. Spoke during my career at Princeton Univ, and Stanford Univ. Earned a very high six figure income, and am now retired in a beautiful home in a midwest lakefront community. You DO NOT need a degree. You "need" to have a terrific work ethic (not be obsessed with work from home nonsense) , be able to think critically, present yourself properly, and have a command of the English language. I did it when degrees were almost 100% mandatory. You can too.
They'll be working at Starbucks for $15 an hour with 100k in student loan debt.
This is why I am very glad my route had changed when COVID happened. Went to community college and completed my general requirements while working which took a while. Now I’m in a state university to complete my bachelor’s degree in Cybersecurity. I’m 23 years old and I know that I will complete and be able to pay off my debt in a few years of my career
Never went to college, worked my way up to better jobs and developed knowledge that made me valuable to an employer, retired early after being in the top 5% of earners, I was making more than most PhD's.
When I was a school boy, University was for the rich and brainy. Degrees in science engineering, maths etc etc were the norm. These days college is a joke, I could have got a degree in repairing wheelbarrows now
I dropped out after 1 year of university in 1991 and joined the military in 1992. Earned my real estate license while active duty in 2001. Retired from military, own 10 rental homes in Tucson, retired from civil service. Today, I'm 50 yrs old and completely financially retired. Life is great in the U.S.
So true! Too many young college students will learn too late that their universities scammed them. I am anxious to learn what the trends will be ten years from now.