@@alexanderren1097 I accept your interpretation and give my own. He is over compensating and throwing away all he had from his old life and focusing on his new life without realizing that mindset could push him further into Viltrumite territory in mindset
Amber clearly have deep seated anxiety regarding lies. That was her problem with Mark, not his disappearances. Worth mentioning: her first compliment to Mark was that he was an honest man.
Having anxiety doesn't give you an excuse for emotional blackmail and mentally tormenting another human. I'd argue that men who physically abuse their wives deep seated trauma from their childhoods. F*CK past trauma, anxiety, ect. If it threatens the mental or physical well-being of OTHERS you take 100% responsibility, apologize, and get that sh*t sorted out with a professional. Invincible is just a cartoon but in real life Amber would be setting off the red flag of a manipulator. She's basically already admitted to being perfectly fine guilt tripping/gas lighting and watching you squirm after.
@@jzi4 Very True. TV Amber was setting off red flags very early on when she dug up dirt on Todd and blackmailed him. Most importantly, the script writing was very poor. They tried to justify Amber's behavior. They wrote the other characters react as if Amber was normal and well adjusted. It wasn't just Amber. Other characters were inorganically written poorly as well. This damaged the quality of the show. Viewer Backlash pushed Robert Kirkman to admit their failure. They simply re-wrote season 2 Amber as a supportive personality. There was no redemption character arc for season 1 Amber. This is still clumsy writing and without resolution. The scriptwriters are still pushing their "narrative over story quality" ideology. They are just being more subtle in their approach. NOTE: Comic book Amber never had this issue. She was always supportive. Plus, more importantly, the comic book script was more organically written with all their characters.
Amanda is 24 and Rudy is 30, both are in a kid body. Only difference, Amanda had a normal life before (going to movies, flirting, etc...)) where Rudy was trap in a pod. Rudy is really asking a girl out for the first time (and react like a 13 years old boy would) and Amanda is a bit condescending because she understood what he was asking, find it sweet but also a bit too "teeny". In contrast of Mark and Amber, two kids stepping in adulthood, Rudy and Amanda are two adults letting themself being kids for one day. That is quality writing.
@14:29 BUT REMEMBER Rudy is around 30 so they're in a similar age group mentally. This was revealed in Season 1 when Rudy was cloning himself with the help of The Mauler Twins he broke out of prison. Rudy(at the time robot) found someone relatable to him. An adult trapped in a body they're not comfortable with.
They're both adults in kids bodies. I'm sure neither of them are attracted to the younger bodies but rudy(robot) likes her for her and they could probably grow older together.
What I love about this show is they managed to take multiple issues of the comics that could easily be 20 to 30 minute episodes on their own, fit them all into 45 minutes, and somehow NOT feel rushed! Also I loved the fact that just like in the comics the narrator kept trying to give the heroes privacy when they would have sex by trying to switch between stories, but when both couples where hooking up he panicked and just kept talking outside Allen’s room. And all the questions Amber had about having sex with someone as powerful as Mark are questions I’ve always had about Superman and Lois Lane!🤣🤣🤣
i really hate Kate, at least Rex acknowledges that what he did was wrong and that he's the bad guy in the situation with Eve but Kate she has no qualms at all about being a homewrecker and sleeping with her friend's boyfriend and no qualms about cheating on her new boyfriend with another guy, she takes no responsibility for her actionsand just expects everyone to deal with it.
Just to add: When Eve caught Kate & Rex in the shower, Kate was trying to run interference before getting caught. Kate she knew it was a friendship betrayal and she was trying to cover it up. After Eve realized Rex & Kate were cheating, Kate immediately threw Rex under the bus to escape her own accountability. Fortunately, Eve was not gaslit and still held Kate accountable for her part in it.
"There exists myriad other worlds where dogs and magic are as real as the air you breathe" "We have dogs; dogs *are* real" "Well then, you're halfway to understanding" is one of the funniest things I've ever heard.
That guy who took Debbie to the bar is the one who should not return to the support group, not her. He even admits he is breaking the rules. You see this a lot at real support groups, especially in relatively small communities, there are people in group who hurt or whose relatives hurt, other people in the group. It happens. Debbie's situation is not so different. In those groups, the person who pursues it out of group, away from the group moderator, and who tries to gatekeep, is the one who gets kicked out. Balancing those mutual hurts is what the moderator is for, and why they have those strict rules on anonymity, even when everyone knows full well who they all are, and have rules like first name only, and all that sort of stuff. Debbie could have benefited from that group, and she had a right to be there too. She shouldn't have been pushed to spill everything outside of group like that, that didn't help. And, in the long run, it won't help him either.
I don't 100 percent agree only because Eves character arc really starts in the special. On paper, it's a couple references but in hindsight, since I watched the special first, many of her developments seem a bit "deeper"... especially with how "spoilers" godly she's supposed to be and how that frames her well meaning mistakes
@@smite505 I agree with you. The Eve special should have been watched first. It was released first for good reason. It adds more depth and understanding as the story unfolds.
Monster girl said it like that because he is awkward and its an awkward situation. Hes in his 30s but has never done normal people stuff, has probably never even been to a movie, and definitely hasnt been on a date or romantic in any way. They both look young, but she atleast looked like a woman at some point. She knows how to be a real person and he is just this awkward weird genius who doesn't understand social interaction
A lot of people miss the fact that the events of the season one finale changed Amber's perspective... They think that she just suddenly changed because of a rewrite...
It's really just that one scene where she is a gas lighting psychopath, cut that scene and amber is a consistent character who would want mark to save people at any cost. I just think they messed up that one scene.. or at least have her apologize at some point and admit it was her saying things in anger to not look stupid and not her true feelings..
I couldn't disagree more. Pointing out bad writing with inorganic characters is not missing any facts. Overlooking writing flaws is the true definition of missing facts. TV Amber took the brunt of the complaints for being the most blatant, but all the characters & events involved in the side story(s) were written poorly. It damaged the quality of the show.
@@The5armdamput33 *Skewed Narrative Ideology over Proper Story Telling always invites scripting flaws. Robert Kirkman caught valid critique from viewers who understood these issues.* Kirkman admitted publicly about some of his writing team's failures. He claimed they will improve. He stated their first step was to re-write Amber's personality. The script writers made s2 Amber supportive and understanding like her comic book counterpart. It was still clumsy writing. They didn't even infer an off-screen personality growth arc for Amber.
Seance/Science Dog is a comic book character in Mark's Universe, the alien took the form of Science Dog because he thought it would cause Mark to trust him.
Yeah, Amber in season 1 was suffering a bit from them skipping a bunch of stories from the comics where her attitude was a bit more justified, so they rectified this season.
@@theswedishdude1 Agreed. Season 1 TV Amber was written as an attempted ideology. The scriptwriters failed in their attempt. TV Amber was not even a believable organic character. It wasn't just TV Amber, but her character took the brunt of the bad writing. All characters and events dealing with the side story(s) were nothing more than "agenda over story. It damaged the quality of the show. Robert Kirkman caught the viewer backlash before publicly admitting any of the writing team's failure. They re-wrote season 2 Amber to act supportive, like comic book Amber was. They are still placing "agenda over story" in the script, but they are now being more subtle about it in season 2.
Kate knew she was betraying her friend Eve while she was dating Rex. There were obvious hints of K & R cheating long before the shower scene (Rex walking out of a back room shirtless, pants undone, and a satisfied look on his face). Kate ran interference to keep Eve from knowing Rex was showering with her. Only after Eve realized cheating happened - Kate threw Rex under the bus in an attempt to escape her own accountability.
4:05 that sounds like a smart question however its a dumb question considering Marks mom is a human and omniman didnt kill her, also in the comics they were together but not in the show they were just f@#$buddies but duplikate will still be on my shit list
@@manyharmons4308 would you f$&@ your close friends boyfriend/girlfriend, my biggest problem with Kate is that she talks like she didn’t do something that she knew was wrong, because, unlike Rex, she didn’t even try to apologize and even continued with the relationship that they were doing until immoral got there so that means she didn’t feel any guilt about what she did
@rebornjm I mean, yeah, but she doesn't have as big a reason to apologize. Rex did the worst of it. She's just a bit of a hoe and a bad friend. Also, she never had a chance to apologize because unlike Rex, she doesn't really know where Eve would be like he does..
@@Animelon lol yeah it's part of the existential horror of being Irish. Us and our stuff/words/names are either seen as being English, or American, or as so utterly alien and beneath respect people refuse to even attempt to pronounce it or do the most basic research. Irish person gets famous? UK claims them. Mythological figure/creature makes it to pop culture? No one will pronounce it (Cait Sith as Ket Shee vs kat sith) or is butchered beyond recognition (ancestral guardian is now a murderous screaming ghost lady).
@@morrigannibairseach1211 oh god the cait sith one really bothers me how much absolute lack or respect people have. "too bad this is how i always read it" like wtf.
@@saphcal what hurts more is that apparently the remakes are going to canonize the incorrect pronunciation. A move completely opposite to the Aeris vs Aerith decision.
@@morrigannibairseach1211 yeah im really pissed about that, because in japan theyve always pronounced his name as close to correct as possible in japanese phonetics "ketto shii", so it was literally just to appease those who had been mispronouncing it for 26 years.
Well just like allen even the viltrumites have a genetically enehanced soldier....grand regent thragg the current ruler of the viltrumites , dude is possibly the steongest being in yhe universe
They changed the scene of Rudy and the cinema, in the comic it was he who with his intellect manages to trick the seller, and thus surprises Monster Girl. It wasn't the other way around, they are taking away his merits.
having him be smart but not street smart works well. its nice to see him learn something "human" from her. i like this better. smart characters who just figure everything out themselves are boring.
You caught the narrative. You will find this narrative a lot these days. Take away the merits of characters to promote other characters over them. The scriptwriters are trying to be more subtle about their agenda this season because they were burned by valid season 1 critique. With that said, I do not see issues with character rewrites as long as they are done organically.
18:26 Well there are certain tells that a recently deflowered male will expose that a sexually experienced individual will be able to spot easily. The more pleasant the first experience or the more socially awkward the man BEFORE the first time the easier they are to spot. Being in a VERY good and being all smile the day after being the obvious ones.😂
I was in big denial here. I thought they were trolling. Episode 4 on Patreon now! www.patreon.com/OneInAMelon
14:04 this is the true definition of a toxic relationship 🤷♂️🤣🤣 W vid and reaction💯
Mark could literally have flown those collectibles home and been back in 5 minutes he didn't have to toss them like thst 😢
It was for dramatic effect to show he has to grow up
@@alexanderren1097 I accept your interpretation and give my own. He is over compensating and throwing away all he had from his old life and focusing on his new life without realizing that mindset could push him further into Viltrumite territory in mindset
@@silentassasonI kinda agree with you but he went back for his favorite toy/collectable showing he wants to grow up but he's still the mark we know
Amber clearly have deep seated anxiety regarding lies. That was her problem with Mark, not his disappearances.
Worth mentioning: her first compliment to Mark was that he was an honest man.
It's hard for an honest man to be a superhero
Having anxiety doesn't give you an excuse for emotional blackmail and mentally tormenting another human.
I'd argue that men who physically abuse their wives deep seated trauma from their childhoods.
F*CK past trauma, anxiety, ect. If it threatens the mental or physical well-being of OTHERS you take 100% responsibility, apologize, and get that sh*t sorted out with a professional.
Invincible is just a cartoon but in real life Amber would be setting off the red flag of a manipulator. She's basically already admitted to being perfectly fine guilt tripping/gas lighting and watching you squirm after.
@@jzi4 Very True. TV Amber was setting off red flags very early on when she dug up dirt on Todd and blackmailed him. Most importantly, the script writing was very poor. They tried to justify Amber's behavior. They wrote the other characters react as if Amber was normal and well adjusted. It wasn't just Amber. Other characters were inorganically written poorly as well. This damaged the quality of the show.
Viewer Backlash pushed Robert Kirkman to admit their failure. They simply re-wrote season 2 Amber as a supportive personality. There was no redemption character arc for season 1 Amber. This is still clumsy writing and without resolution. The scriptwriters are still pushing their "narrative over story quality" ideology. They are just being more subtle in their approach.
NOTE: Comic book Amber never had this issue. She was always supportive. Plus, more importantly, the comic book script was more organically written with all their characters.
Amanda is 24 and Rudy is 30, both are in a kid body. Only difference, Amanda had a normal life before (going to movies, flirting, etc...)) where Rudy was trap in a pod.
Rudy is really asking a girl out for the first time (and react like a 13 years old boy would) and Amanda is a bit condescending because she understood what he was asking, find it sweet but also a bit too "teeny". In contrast of Mark and Amber, two kids stepping in adulthood, Rudy and Amanda are two adults letting themself being kids for one day.
That is quality writing.
@14:29 BUT REMEMBER Rudy is around 30 so they're in a similar age group mentally. This was revealed in Season 1 when Rudy was cloning himself with the help of The Mauler Twins he broke out of prison.
Rudy(at the time robot) found someone relatable to him. An adult trapped in a body they're not comfortable with.
For my next Mass effect playthrough, I'm giving Shepard a viltrumite mustache.
I made my Omni-Man my Elden Ring character. (They have the perfect Viltrumite mustache in Elden ring lol)
They're both adults in kids bodies. I'm sure neither of them are attracted to the younger bodies but rudy(robot) likes her for her and they could probably grow older together.
Can they even get older??
@junglekxngtalksanime idk. I think monster girl can but every time she uses her powers she loses more time. Idk about Rudy.
@@junglekxngtalksanime Comic spoilers, but they do
What I love about this show is they managed to take multiple issues of the comics that could easily be 20 to 30 minute episodes on their own, fit them all into 45 minutes, and somehow NOT feel rushed!
Also I loved the fact that just like in the comics the narrator kept trying to give the heroes privacy when they would have sex by trying to switch between stories, but when both couples where hooking up he panicked and just kept talking outside Allen’s room. And all the questions Amber had about having sex with someone as powerful as Mark are questions I’ve always had about Superman and Lois Lane!🤣🤣🤣
Oh boy. Next episode is going to be a rollercoaster.
"what is is?" Obviously it's DOGtor Strange
"Viltrumites don't fight one another." The Great Viltrumite Culling- Am I just a joke to you?
i really hate Kate, at least Rex acknowledges that what he did was wrong and that he's the bad guy in the situation with Eve but Kate she has no qualms at all about being a homewrecker and sleeping with her friend's boyfriend and no qualms about cheating on her new boyfriend with another guy, she takes no responsibility for her actionsand just expects everyone to deal with it.
Just to add: When Eve caught Kate & Rex in the shower, Kate was trying to run interference before getting caught. Kate she knew it was a friendship betrayal and she was trying to cover it up. After Eve realized Rex & Kate were cheating, Kate immediately threw Rex under the bus to escape her own accountability. Fortunately, Eve was not gaslit and still held Kate accountable for her part in it.
"There exists myriad other worlds where dogs and magic are as real as the air you breathe"
"We have dogs; dogs *are* real"
"Well then, you're halfway to understanding"
is one of the funniest things I've ever heard.
That guy who took Debbie to the bar is the one who should not return to the support group, not her. He even admits he is breaking the rules. You see this a lot at real support groups, especially in relatively small communities, there are people in group who hurt or whose relatives hurt, other people in the group. It happens. Debbie's situation is not so different. In those groups, the person who pursues it out of group, away from the group moderator, and who tries to gatekeep, is the one who gets kicked out. Balancing those mutual hurts is what the moderator is for, and why they have those strict rules on anonymity, even when everyone knows full well who they all are, and have rules like first name only, and all that sort of stuff. Debbie could have benefited from that group, and she had a right to be there too. She shouldn't have been pushed to spill everything outside of group like that, that didn't help. And, in the long run, it won't help him either.
15:25 to be fair, everyone in this support group doesn't know that Nolan Grayson is Omni-Man
15:25 So what? Her name isn't Debbie Omni-Man or anything.
If any of the spouses were connected to the guardians they might know his identity.
Okay let's get this straight that old man explaining that viltramites don't leave their post he low-key sounds like octimas prime
he IS. its the same guy who voices both. its peter cullen.
I ended up watching the atom eve special afterwards too. Doesn't make much difference, just a couple references. But I think you'll really like it
I don't 100 percent agree only because Eves character arc really starts in the special. On paper, it's a couple references but in hindsight, since I watched the special first, many of her developments seem a bit "deeper"... especially with how "spoilers" godly she's supposed to be and how that frames her well meaning mistakes
@@smite505 I agree with you. The Eve special should have been watched first. It was released first for good reason. It adds more depth and understanding as the story unfolds.
Her face.. Your face...it's meme worthy😂😂
At which part?
Monster girl said it like that because he is awkward and its an awkward situation. Hes in his 30s but has never done normal people stuff, has probably never even been to a movie, and definitely hasnt been on a date or romantic in any way. They both look young, but she atleast looked like a woman at some point. She knows how to be a real person and he is just this awkward weird genius who doesn't understand social interaction
More Invincible! Woo!!!
A lot of people miss the fact that the events of the season one finale changed Amber's perspective...
They think that she just suddenly changed because of a rewrite...
It's really just that one scene where she is a gas lighting psychopath, cut that scene and amber is a consistent character who would want mark to save people at any cost.
I just think they messed up that one scene.. or at least have her apologize at some point and admit it was her saying things in anger to not look stupid and not her true feelings..
I couldn't disagree more. Pointing out bad writing with inorganic characters is not missing any facts. Overlooking writing flaws is the true definition of missing facts.
TV Amber took the brunt of the complaints for being the most blatant, but all the characters & events involved in the side story(s) were written poorly. It damaged the quality of the show.
@@dunringill1747
What's the issue with Amber? That she didn't like being lied to, so she ended the relationship?
@@The5armdamput33 *Skewed Narrative Ideology over Proper Story Telling always invites scripting flaws. Robert Kirkman caught valid critique from viewers who understood these issues.*
Kirkman admitted publicly about some of his writing team's failures. He claimed they will improve. He stated their first step was to re-write Amber's personality.
The script writers made s2 Amber supportive and understanding like her comic book counterpart. It was still clumsy writing. They didn't even infer an off-screen personality growth arc for Amber.
@@dunringill1747
That was really vague and didn't answer the question....
the writers really dialed back amber because everyone hated her in season 1.
Seance/Science Dog is a comic book character in Mark's Universe, the alien took the form of Science Dog because he thought it would cause Mark to trust him.
amber is a 180 and it's the best
Also im pretty sure the name Allen is the shortened form of the Roman name Allentius which was very popular after the story of Atlantis came around
Kate is on some bullshxt...Rex too
Didn't Rex lie to her as well? Also, they weren't together. They were just f*ckbuddies.
I can’t wait for your reaction to episode 4!!
Yeah, Amber in season 1 was suffering a bit from them skipping a bunch of stories from the comics where her attitude was a bit more justified, so they rectified this season.
not just skipping they rewrote her character to be insufferable because they wanted her to be a strong independent woman that don't need no man.
@@theswedishdude1 Agreed. Season 1 TV Amber was written as an attempted ideology. The scriptwriters failed in their attempt. TV Amber was not even a believable organic character.
It wasn't just TV Amber, but her character took the brunt of the bad writing. All characters and events dealing with the side story(s) were nothing more than "agenda over story. It damaged the quality of the show.
Robert Kirkman caught the viewer backlash before publicly admitting any of the writing team's failure. They re-wrote season 2 Amber to act supportive, like comic book Amber was. They are still placing "agenda over story" in the script, but they are now being more subtle about it in season 2.
12:26 No; they weren't dating... they were having casual sex...
And Rex lied and told Kate that he was broken up with Eve and she was dating Mark...
Kate knew she was betraying her friend Eve while she was dating Rex. There were obvious hints of K & R cheating long before the shower scene (Rex walking out of a back room shirtless, pants undone, and a satisfied look on his face).
Kate ran interference to keep Eve from knowing Rex was showering with her. Only after Eve realized cheating happened - Kate threw Rex under the bus in an attempt to escape her own accountability.
4:05 that sounds like a smart question however its a dumb question considering Marks mom is a human and omniman didnt kill her, also in the comics they were together but not in the show they were just f@#$buddies but duplikate will still be on my shit list
Why? she said she didn't realize he was lying to her too.
@@manyharmons4308 would you f$&@ your close friends boyfriend/girlfriend, my biggest problem with Kate is that she talks like she didn’t do something that she knew was wrong, because, unlike Rex, she didn’t even try to apologize and even continued with the relationship that they were doing until immoral got there so that means she didn’t feel any guilt about what she did
@@manyharmons4308 and don’t get me wrong Rex didn’t really apologize either but he admitted to making a mistake
@rebornjm I mean, yeah, but she doesn't have as big a reason to apologize. Rex did the worst of it. She's just a bit of a hoe and a bad friend. Also, she never had a chance to apologize because unlike Rex, she doesn't really know where Eve would be like he does..
Yes!!!! Go watch and upload, lol!!!!!
Rudy is in his mid 30s and chose a childs body to impress monster girl.
"Such an American name"
*screadach as Gaeilge*
I knew it was something haha. I just didn’t Know the origin. It’s a common name I guess I meant to say
@@Animelon lol yeah it's part of the existential horror of being Irish. Us and our stuff/words/names are either seen as being English, or American, or as so utterly alien and beneath respect people refuse to even attempt to pronounce it or do the most basic research.
Irish person gets famous? UK claims them. Mythological figure/creature makes it to pop culture? No one will pronounce it (Cait Sith as Ket Shee vs kat sith) or is butchered beyond recognition (ancestral guardian is now a murderous screaming ghost lady).
@@morrigannibairseach1211 oh god the cait sith one really bothers me how much absolute lack or respect people have. "too bad this is how i always read it" like wtf.
@@saphcal what hurts more is that apparently the remakes are going to canonize the incorrect pronunciation. A move completely opposite to the Aeris vs Aerith decision.
@@morrigannibairseach1211 yeah im really pissed about that, because in japan theyve always pronounced his name as close to correct as possible in japanese phonetics "ketto shii", so it was literally just to appease those who had been mispronouncing it for 26 years.
Well just like allen even the viltrumites have a genetically enehanced soldier....grand regent thragg the current ruler of the viltrumites , dude is possibly the steongest being in yhe universe
They did Allen's gf dirty in this show. Made her mid desk jockey. In the comic she is a loving super model.
Did they tho?? Cause from my understanding, she at least has an important role show-wise
To be fair, everyone got a more realistic body makeover. They're all less sexy less bulky versions of the originals.
Ily
Alan stays around. Don't worry
They changed the scene of Rudy and the cinema, in the comic it was he who with his intellect manages to trick the seller, and thus surprises Monster Girl. It wasn't the other way around, they are taking away his merits.
having him be smart but not street smart works well. its nice to see him learn something "human" from her. i like this better. smart characters who just figure everything out themselves are boring.
@@saphcaltrue I feel like having Rudy be a fish out of water for now is better.
@@Bruh_3 it is fr
You caught the narrative. You will find this narrative a lot these days. Take away the merits of characters to promote other characters over them. The scriptwriters are trying to be more subtle about their agenda this season because they were burned by valid season 1 critique.
With that said, I do not see issues with character rewrites as long as they are done organically.
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18:26 Well there are certain tells that a recently deflowered male will expose that a sexually experienced individual will be able to spot easily. The more pleasant the first experience or the more socially awkward the man BEFORE the first time the easier they are to spot.
Being in a VERY good and being all smile the day after being the obvious ones.😂
thedous is guy who crippled the viltramite empire
Bro don’t spoil for non comic readers
I felt the same way when I saw him they just showed they shapeshift and might be dumb.