I had my doubts of the PV4. It still needs a lot of updates from DynoJet. But I purchased it from FuelMoto, and they provide tunes sent right to you. Those guys know what they're doing there. Every upgrade I do to my bike, FuelMoto will send a tune for it at no cost so long as you have a record of purchase through them. Now if you ask me, the ultimate tune is putting it through the dyno because the tech can make multiple passes to see how the AF mix is running along with other statistics, and make the adjustments from the real time map. But that is usually saved until the build is done because dyno tuning is not cheap. But the PV4 works for me as long as you get it from FuelMoto.
Fuel Moto has the lowest prices on all PowerVision tuners. And for no extra cost, FM provides unlimited lifetime support and tunes when you purchase the tuner through them.
The FM free tunes may have some small letters on it,is less probable that a bike owner has 6 or more exhaust systems laying around to test,is way less probable a shop gives you 6 or more systems to test for free,in reality at least 2 or 3 systems can be on hand,yours and couple good friends ones,unless you own a shop.So that thing that every single day you can ask for a free tune can make FM stop you from getting tunes randomly. This tuner needs asap the autotune function! otherwise it's just an expensive paperweight.
Appreciate the review as there is not much on this PV4. I have the Screamin Eagle tuner like you had and the HD torque cam SE-447 along with slip-ons and high-flow breather. Do you think the PV4 will make much of a difference over the SE tuner? My bike runs good now, but I just can't help but wonder if the PV4 will open it up some more...
Anything is better than the pro street tuner.. it doesn't void EPA and therefore it can't give you proper AFR tuning it gets it close but not aftermarket tuner close... but any other than the PS tuner will void warranty
@@Jhood0729_jerrymesser You are right! Update: Got the PV4 a couple days ago and it's a BIG difference in power over the SE Pro Street Tuner! Money well spent! My butt dyno had me smiling big after the first flash from Dynojet. Next I will try the Fuel Moto map to see how that compares to DJ. The DJ map shows much better power, but idle and low speed takeoff seems a bit rough. Hoping FM will smooth that out.
@@andrewwatt8726 the FM map definitely smoothed out the engine but I did not notice any additional HP/torque than the DJ map. Still worth doing and I can always submit logs to FM once they enable Autotune Basic on the PV4.
Which cam are u running? I just picked up my bike after having RS 468 Cam upgrade 21 road glide special 114. Its a completely different bike amazing. Also bought the PV4 from fuel moto and they sent ut with tune already uploaded. You only have to pay for tune if you dont purchase the tuner from them. Fyi. Nice ride brutha
I got the S&S 475 cam with the s&s oil pump and cam plate in mine! Was very happy with the pv4 tune and how easy it was to flash to my bike! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
@marvelharris9540 the bike is a beast I love the 468 cam. Have sent data logs from pv4 back to fuel moto several times and they have tweaked the map based on what the data log has showed them unfortunately I dont have a dyno tuner around me. Nor do I want to or have the coin for dyno tune anyways.
@@DatzDoghow difficult is it to record data logs and then send to Fuelmoto. Its bluetoothe so kinds confused how this is done?. I also have no tuner (Hawaii), so am stuck with doing all this myself. Thnx!
So u open the data log on the pv4 while riding and click record. When you are finished then download and email yourself the data log then goto fuel moto website and upload the data log in their help tune section. Takes about 7 days or so but Lucas is awesome and makes suggestions and has been amazing.
my mechanic flipped out saying NO NO they suck. lol! He's so old school and can't see past his 20+ yrs working on harley's. In part cause it takes control away from him making $$ I think. I bought it so let him have a sissy fit. I hope though it's as easy as it seems to use. I'll probably get a Fuel moto tune though as well. I don't like paying yet another $100 but F it. I have a 2023 LRS with a arlen ness breather, V&H High output 2-1. No cam. So I feel it should not be too much trouble.
does the PV4 not come with dynojet support? ive used my PV3 from revzilla across three bikes now and i just email dynojet and they email me back a basemap tune for free. are the fuelmoto tunes better for $100?
Hello I am looking into to get the dyno jet p4 for my 2016 Road glide special So you or sayin that o still have to purchase a tune when buy the dyno jet p4?
Dynojet will send you a stage 2 map if you request, just email them and it’s free. It’s absolutely garbage of a map but they do have base maps for stage 2.
@dewayneroach7952 so in this case is better to wait until the AT function is added. Otherwise, this tuner can be considered as a luxurious paperweight,extremely limitated!
@@BarbaritoAdolfo777 it has tunes you can use and you can have tunes made for you but it want make adjustments for you. I’m waiting to see if they will add AT but I have exhaust and I need to get an intake so I’m probably just going to get it and hope AT is not too far out.
@jimscycleandautotn8508 lol what are you talking about? I can call fuel moto right now and have them give me a non epa compliant map for my PV4. It uses the same tuning software as the powervision.
I had my doubts of the PV4. It still needs a lot of updates from DynoJet. But I purchased it from FuelMoto, and they provide tunes sent right to you. Those guys know what they're doing there. Every upgrade I do to my bike, FuelMoto will send a tune for it at no cost so long as you have a record of purchase through them. Now if you ask me, the ultimate tune is putting it through the dyno because the tech can make multiple passes to see how the AF mix is running along with other statistics, and make the adjustments from the real time map. But that is usually saved until the build is done because dyno tuning is not cheap. But the PV4 works for me as long as you get it from FuelMoto.
thanks for the info about fuel-moto. ride safe.
Great video. I'm a little behind the learning curve on these tuners, but you helped a lot.
Fuel Moto has the lowest prices on all PowerVision tuners. And for no extra cost, FM provides unlimited lifetime support and tunes when you purchase the tuner through them.
The FM free tunes may have some small letters on it,is less probable that a bike owner has 6 or more exhaust systems laying around to test,is way less probable a shop gives you 6 or more systems to test for free,in reality at least 2 or 3 systems can be on hand,yours and couple good friends ones,unless you own a shop.So that thing that every single day you can ask for a free tune can make FM stop you from getting tunes randomly.
This tuner needs asap the autotune function! otherwise it's just an expensive paperweight.
Appreciate the review as there is not much on this PV4. I have the Screamin Eagle tuner like you had and the HD torque cam SE-447 along with slip-ons and high-flow breather. Do you think the PV4 will make much of a difference over the SE tuner? My bike runs good now, but I just can't help but wonder if the PV4 will open it up some more...
Anything is better than the pro street tuner.. it doesn't void EPA and therefore it can't give you proper AFR tuning it gets it close but not aftermarket tuner close... but any other than the PS tuner will void warranty
@@Jhood0729_jerrymesser You are right! Update: Got the PV4 a couple days ago and it's a BIG difference in power over the SE Pro Street Tuner! Money well spent! My butt dyno had me smiling big after the first flash from Dynojet. Next I will try the Fuel Moto map to see how that compares to DJ. The DJ map shows much better power, but idle and low speed takeoff seems a bit rough. Hoping FM will smooth that out.
@Hoodsolo their website says it doesn't support AFR?
@@TonyDLupdate on the FM map?
@@andrewwatt8726 the FM map definitely smoothed out the engine but I did not notice any additional HP/torque than the DJ map. Still worth doing and I can always submit logs to FM once they enable Autotune Basic on the PV4.
Which cam are u running? I just picked up my bike after having RS 468 Cam upgrade 21 road glide special 114. Its a completely different bike amazing. Also bought the PV4 from fuel moto and they sent ut with tune already uploaded. You only have to pay for tune if you dont purchase the tuner from them. Fyi. Nice ride brutha
I got the S&S 475 cam with the s&s oil pump and cam plate in mine! Was very happy with the pv4 tune and how easy it was to flash to my bike! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
How are you liking the 468 cam? I just ordered mine from zippers along with a fuelmoto pv4.
@marvelharris9540 the bike is a beast I love the 468 cam. Have sent data logs from pv4 back to fuel moto several times and they have tweaked the map based on what the data log has showed them unfortunately I dont have a dyno tuner around me. Nor do I want to or have the coin for dyno tune anyways.
@@DatzDoghow difficult is it to record data logs and then send to Fuelmoto. Its bluetoothe so kinds confused how this is done?. I also have no tuner (Hawaii), so am stuck with doing all this myself. Thnx!
So u open the data log on the pv4 while riding and click record. When you are finished then download and email yourself the data log then goto fuel moto website and upload the data log in their help tune section. Takes about 7 days or so but Lucas is awesome and makes suggestions and has been amazing.
Great video bro. And nice bike! Did you try reaching out to DynoJet for a tune before purchasing one from Fuel Moto?
my mechanic flipped out saying NO NO they suck. lol! He's so old school and can't see past his 20+ yrs working on harley's. In part cause it takes control away from him making $$ I think. I bought it so let him have a sissy fit. I hope though it's as easy as it seems to use. I'll probably get a Fuel moto tune though as well. I don't like paying yet another $100 but F it. I have a 2023 LRS with a arlen ness breather, V&H High output 2-1. No cam. So I feel it should not be too much trouble.
does the PV4 not come with dynojet support? ive used my PV3 from revzilla across three bikes now and i just email dynojet and they email me back a basemap tune for free. are the fuelmoto tunes better for $100?
Hello
I am looking into to get the dyno jet p4 for my 2016 Road glide special
So you or sayin that o still have to purchase a tune when buy the dyno jet p4?
did you change your O2 sensor to wideband with PV4? can it be?
bought the power vision 4 for my 2014 harley davidson triglide, really could use your help. do you do any work on the side. thanks James
I thought $100.00 got us access to all the tunes in the library .
I think ill stick with thundermax... had it on 2 bikes now and no issues ran flawless
I see you posted 3 months ago. Have you dyno tuned? I would like to know the review from the dyno tuner.
Hey buddy, how can I contact you? I’m in Durham North Carolina
Quick question…? Once I tune my bike with the PV4 tuner do I have to keep it plugged in or will it save if I disconnect..
Fuel moto says it flashes the ECU... So it can be removed
Hello
I have a 2016 road glide special and just purchased and 2 into 1 exhaust Bone Breaker
Would.i have to get a tune made for it?
Yes you should tune it
Ok
Would I still have to call fuel moto for my exhaust
Bone Break performance 2 into 1 exhaust far as a tune?
Puedes utilizar tu dyno en diferentes motos?
Bro this was so fn helpful
Does that tuner have a map for Harleys 447 torque cam?
Does it void warranty?
I’m pretty sure it will void your factory warranty!
V&H FP4 is light years ahead of this mate.
Dynojet will send you a stage 2 map if you request, just email them and it’s free. It’s absolutely garbage of a map but they do have base maps for stage 2.
You didn't show us how to do it.😢
This is becoming total scamming BS. Buy the tuner from DJet and then pay more $$ to FMoto for a bloody canned map. This is utter nonsense.
Buy the tuner from Fuel Moto and they give free tunes for life of unit. Always been good to deal with
@@antruze yep... Discount price too! (returncust)
this tuner includes auto tune functions?
No. I emailed them and they said they are working on it but they don’t have an eta as to when it will come out.
@dewayneroach7952 so in this case is better to wait until the AT function is added. Otherwise, this tuner can be considered as a luxurious paperweight,extremely limitated!
@@BarbaritoAdolfo777 it has tunes you can use and you can have tunes made for you but it want make adjustments for you. I’m waiting to see if they will add AT but I have exhaust and I need to get an intake so I’m probably just going to get it and hope AT is not too far out.
@@BarbaritoAdolfo777 right now dynojet had a sale going on 10% off so now would be the time to get on. 40 bucks cheaper
@dewayneroach7952 let's hope,vance and hines fp4 is junk and the PV2 primitive tech price has doubled it price.
Hey Miles, zip up your bag! I don't want you losing your keys on a bump. 😁
You can use your DYNO on different motorcycles
It takes another license agreement from dynojet, I think it's like $240
so its about 400 dollars for the PV4 and then you have to pay another 100 bucks for a tune?
If u buy they fuel moto they include the first tune
@@MrDroopypillowif you buy from fuel moto they include lifetime unlimited tunes, not just the first one.
Mine is coming monday from fuelmoto.. I hope the tune works well for my setup.. fingers crossed.
@@BrandonsHarley
@@marvelharris9540How did it go?
@@andrewwatt8726 It went really good... the pv4 is on the bike now along with a zippers cam. I had it dyno tuned and the torque is through the roof!
Does the PV4 have autotune?
No, he answered that about 3 minutes in. That’s when he started talking about the actual product
Not yet...
It's a epa restricted product , expensive paperweight brother 🤙
Nice scoot btw
Not true. Non EPA compliant maps can be used with the PV4 😊
@@hankrichards8903 not without more than just the pv4 . Try again 🕳️
@jimscycleandautotn8508 lol what are you talking about? I can call fuel moto right now and have them give me a non epa compliant map for my PV4. It uses the same tuning software as the powervision.
@@hankrichards8903 I get it , your caught in the illusion , you'll get there bro 🙏
I think you need to learn how to use it better . Or just claim your selling tunes for fuel moto .
stage 1 only gets you 10hp/tq for $400 and still not able to make auto tune at your own,sounds pretty expensive!
Stage 1 with a 2-1 wasn’t even on the 3 preset tunes when I installed mine.. 🥲 2022 FXLRST. Contracting fuel moto…