From what I've researched so far, Smart MRL was Schindler's second MRL model after SchindlerMobile, first launched in 1998 which was a year after SchindlerMobile. There were at least five known variants of it; Smart MRL 001, Smart MRL 002, Smart MRL 002 DE (Design Edition), Smart J (the Japanese version), and a Latin American version known simply as Smart MRL (manufactured by Atlas Schindler of Brazil). The last two variants were exclusive to the Japanese and Brazilian/Latin American markets respectively, so they cannot be found in Europe. Smart 001 is perhaps the basic variant due to its single colored interiors and lack of lights on the ceiling. Smart 002 is similar to 001, but features ceiling with lights and bicolored interiors. Smart 002 DE (Design Edition) is the premium variant featuring more stylish interior options and center opening doors according to their official brochure I found on Wayback Machine. The Brazilian/Latin American version is basically similar to the European counterparts but with few differences on the button panels and interior options specifically catered for the Latin American markets. Can't say anything about Smart J as I haven't been on one yet, but it's essentially the Japanese version of Smart MRL. Another thing, SchindlerMobile was discontinued in 2001 and replaced by the Schindler EuroLift, which was positioned as a mid range MRL model for low to mid rise residential and commercial buildings.
I had a look in the elevator wiki before publishing the video and I included a bit of the information in the description. This install here seems to be a Smart 002 since it has the bicolor interior and the grey COP. Information has been given to me that in Germany there also exist Schindler Smarts in 2:1 rope configuration, I guess that this only applies for the 1000kg model. Furthermore, there also appears to be a 1.6m/s version of the Schindler Smart, which has been installed in higher buildings. I will probably be able to document some of these installs when I travel to Germany next time.
Yes, the one that you filmed here is the 002 variant. I looked up on the Schindler Smart MRL brochures on my archives again, the speed listed there is only 1 m/sec, including the 002 DE variant.
@@idl3k_elev From what time has shown me and what I've learned, documents are not always correct. At some point in time I will go there and see, whether these lifts are Smarts and if they really go that fast.
Oh dang aren't these the rare ones? I believe they even had one with like weird pressureized motor setup or something I dunno Very beautiful motor hum too
Yes, these are very rare. But there is another MRL concept by Schindler that came before the Smart and was even more rare: The Schindler Mobile. This is the one you mean I suppose - it has the motor underneath the car and is driven by rubber tires pressed against the guide rails.
In this video: ua-cam.com/video/ytAecqFUfIw/v-deo.html Is it the brake resistor (Ziehl Abegg BR 17-3) the electronic brake control (Ziehl Abegg Zasbc4C) or simply the motor itself that makes the 2 clunks when the lift stops? (Just trying to learn more about how lifts work.)
In the video from you, the first clunk comes from the mechanical brakes, afterwards you can hear the STO (safe torque off) relays turning off, to prevent the drive moving the lift. Do you know what Zadyn Version it is? As on older Versions the Ziehl Abegg SBC isn't supported and brake control is done via a simple rectifier bridge with the standard double contactor pair. The Ziehl Abegg SBC is not strictly necessary and an option too add support for rescue operation or an ARD (automatic rescue device). Also the Ziehl Abegg BR17-3 (braking resistor) has nothing to do with the mechanical brakes, it is responsible for electrically braking the lift, because usually when a lift travels up with no load, it generates electricity which needs to be dissipated, it gets turned by resistors into heat. Some newer lifts have regenerative braking units that feed this power back into the grid. Hope that helped a bit :)
@@AyKLabs Thanks. it’s Zadyn4C 011-032 VF installed last year. I have a picture of the VF drive with the Zasbc4 next to it. And I’m guessing the brake resistor and Zasbc4 is completely silent then. I like how Ziehl Abegg VF’s make a nice high pitched sound going up as well, especially on the older Zetadyn ones.
@@LachieVidsTransportVlogs I understand Yep on the new Zadyn4 the carrier frequency that is used to adjust the power going to the braking resistor is 3,5kHz usually, which is much more silent than on older models with 1kHz (the high pitched sound). I got a few examples: Here you can hear the breaking resistor sound of a Zadyn4 ua-cam.com/video/It7NL8kBCnk/v-deo.html and a Zadyn4 with the ZaSBC box, Zarec (regenerative breaking) and a Zatop gearless machine ua-cam.com/users/shortssMJ8GQr2MEA
Very nice Schindler Smart 001👍
Thx!
From what I've researched so far, Smart MRL was Schindler's second MRL model after SchindlerMobile, first launched in 1998 which was a year after SchindlerMobile. There were at least five known variants of it; Smart MRL 001, Smart MRL 002, Smart MRL 002 DE (Design Edition), Smart J (the Japanese version), and a Latin American version known simply as Smart MRL (manufactured by Atlas Schindler of Brazil). The last two variants were exclusive to the Japanese and Brazilian/Latin American markets respectively, so they cannot be found in Europe.
Smart 001 is perhaps the basic variant due to its single colored interiors and lack of lights on the ceiling. Smart 002 is similar to 001, but features ceiling with lights and bicolored interiors. Smart 002 DE (Design Edition) is the premium variant featuring more stylish interior options and center opening doors according to their official brochure I found on Wayback Machine. The Brazilian/Latin American version is basically similar to the European counterparts but with few differences on the button panels and interior options specifically catered for the Latin American markets. Can't say anything about Smart J as I haven't been on one yet, but it's essentially the Japanese version of Smart MRL.
Another thing, SchindlerMobile was discontinued in 2001 and replaced by the Schindler EuroLift, which was positioned as a mid range MRL model for low to mid rise residential and commercial buildings.
I had a look in the elevator wiki before publishing the video and I included a bit of the information in the description. This install here seems to be a Smart 002 since it has the bicolor interior and the grey COP.
Information has been given to me that in Germany there also exist Schindler Smarts in 2:1 rope configuration, I guess that this only applies for the 1000kg model. Furthermore, there also appears to be a 1.6m/s version of the Schindler Smart, which has been installed in higher buildings. I will probably be able to document some of these installs when I travel to Germany next time.
Yes, the one that you filmed here is the 002 variant. I looked up on the Schindler Smart MRL brochures on my archives again, the speed listed there is only 1 m/sec, including the 002 DE variant.
@@idl3k_elev From what time has shown me and what I've learned, documents are not always correct. At some point in time I will go there and see, whether these lifts are Smarts and if they really go that fast.
Very good
Thx
Gute Aufnahmen! gefällt mir!
Danke!
I Love the Sound we have one in our Building btw. As i was 7 or 8 years old a Person from Schindler Said i can Go with hin in the Cabin that was cool
The Schindler Smart indeed has a very distinct sound. It sure is a really interesting type of lift that's pretty rare.
@@TheLiftDragon LOL du kannst ja deutsch warum schreib ich englisch😂
@@Joni12844 Ja, warum schreibst du englisch? xD
@@TheLiftDragon wenn der Titel englisch ist schreib ich automatisch englisch xd
@@Joni12844 Joa kenn ich, mach ich meistens auch. ^^
Oh dang aren't these the rare ones?
I believe they even had one with like weird pressureized motor setup or something I dunno
Very beautiful motor hum too
Yes, these are very rare. But there is another MRL concept by Schindler that came before the Smart and was even more rare: The Schindler Mobile. This is the one you mean I suppose - it has the motor underneath the car and is driven by rubber tires pressed against the guide rails.
In this video: ua-cam.com/video/ytAecqFUfIw/v-deo.html Is it the brake resistor (Ziehl Abegg BR 17-3) the electronic brake control (Ziehl Abegg Zasbc4C) or simply the motor itself that makes the 2 clunks when the lift stops? (Just trying to learn more about how lifts work.)
In the video from you, the first clunk comes from the mechanical brakes, afterwards you can hear the STO (safe torque off) relays turning off, to prevent the drive moving the lift.
Do you know what Zadyn Version it is? As on older Versions the Ziehl Abegg SBC isn't supported and brake control is done via a simple rectifier bridge with the standard double contactor pair. The Ziehl Abegg SBC is not strictly necessary and an option too add support for rescue operation or an ARD (automatic rescue device).
Also the Ziehl Abegg BR17-3 (braking resistor) has nothing to do with the mechanical brakes, it is responsible for electrically braking the lift, because usually when a lift travels up with no load, it generates electricity which needs to be dissipated, it gets turned by resistors into heat. Some newer lifts have regenerative braking units that feed this power back into the grid.
Hope that helped a bit :)
@@AyKLabs Thanks.
it’s Zadyn4C 011-032 VF installed last year. I have a picture of the VF drive with the Zasbc4 next to it. And I’m guessing the brake resistor and Zasbc4 is completely silent then. I like how Ziehl Abegg VF’s make a nice high pitched sound going up as well, especially on the older Zetadyn ones.
@@LachieVidsTransportVlogs I understand
Yep on the new Zadyn4 the carrier frequency that is used to adjust the power going to the braking resistor is 3,5kHz usually, which is much more silent than on older models with 1kHz (the high pitched sound).
I got a few examples:
Here you can hear the breaking resistor sound of a Zadyn4
ua-cam.com/video/It7NL8kBCnk/v-deo.html
and a Zadyn4 with the ZaSBC box, Zarec (regenerative breaking) and a Zatop gearless machine
ua-cam.com/users/shortssMJ8GQr2MEA