The phantom works as a sympathetic villain, but once you try to make him a 100% protagonist, you have to ignore all the absolutely horrible things he’s done. (You know. Kidnapping, murder, arson, etc.) And then making a character like Meg the new villain is even more bizarre.
Couldn't agree more. I love him as a tragic, sympathetic villain with a bittersweet redemption, but making him an antihero (who still does things like make veiled threats against a child) really doesn't work. And yeah, Meg was certainly an... odd... choice for villain.
What's funny is that they could have just drawn from the source material and made Phillipe the villain. You give ties to Raoul's family and make him seem like more of a dick (and explain his complete 180 by showing his family is basically turning him into a strict drunk to meet their ever growing demands) and get to add sympathy to the Phantom since his attempts to run away and atone (maybe Coney Island was his attempt to "start over" and be better) are just being met with more pushback from an unforgiving world. It would also make him better if the child wasn't his but Raouls who felt excluded and is eventually aided in seeing "the beauty underneath" despite the harsh rules of Raoul's family.
But don't forget, the Phantom (now Myster.Y) at the start threatened Christine she would "leave home alone" if she doesn't sing for him, implying that he would harm her husband and child.
The ending actually pissed me off. The best thing about the phantom was his cunning and wit. He was always one step ahead of everyone. You think he’d have more brain cells to not mention Christine to a woman who just yelled at him she’s going to kill herself because he never paid attention to her due to Christine. Huge flaw there and therefore Christine wouldn’t have died. I love phantom and I loved moments of this play but this ending just made me say, “Really?”
Actually it makes sense given context, 10 years, the phantom had become even more obsessed with christine, he loved her but let her go and till i hear you sing shows that the phantom feels completely lost without her.
@@superlunadoodles6529Well she did goof but in no moment did Meg intend to kill her or even hurt Gustave, so it's unfair to hate her for that. As the commenter said, she wouldn't have freaked out like that had the Phantom not said literally the ONE thing she didn't want to hear that moment.
the whole meta of the story is phantom . found his true love again. finally got her . finds out the boy he befriends is his son . woman he loves dies . but in a sad way finally found real love .......his son
Ive heard a theory that it's all in Erik's mind. A friend of mine came up with it, I think, and I added onto it They said that he just couldn't bring himself to be happy. I think he made meg and raoul worse but still within reasonable limits (I have my own reasons for thinking they're reasonable, but it's long so). He made christine love him, and since madame giry didnt have much in the original, she got that. And he let the story play out, but couldnt ignore what the characters would actually do based on how he'd made them, so christine died
The Phantom sealed Christine's fate by talking her up in front of her jealous, suicidal best friend. Fitting. Honestly this whole play feels like a fanfic lmao.
Alternate ending I thought of, it’s probably not very good: The Phantom does not mention Christine when attempting to calm Meg. Instead, Meg refuses to forgive the Phantom for all her suffering, still rambling about how it was all his fault. Meg shoots, aiming for the Phantom, but her hand is too shaky to make proper aim. Christine and the Phantom expect to be hurt, but Gustave falls instead. Meg drops the gun and she and her mother go to look for help. Gustave reveals through a reprise of “Look With Your Heart” that he guessed that the Phantom was his father all along, and asks how they met. The Phantom and Christine sing a short reprise of “Once Upon Another Time,” and Gustave takes off the Phantom’s mask. But instead of screaming, he jokes about how he ran away before. He drops the mask at his side as he dies. Christine, heartbroken beyond belief, picks up the gun and points it toward herself, only to remember the Phantom is still there. He sings the reprise of “Love Never Dies,” and she lets go of the gun. Raoul arrives, in shock of his dead son, but does not move to touch him, knowing he was not a good enough father. The Phantom and Christine cradle his body as the curtain drops.
This show is different with every single videos I'm watching ! It's a bit confusing because all versions are so good Also I really love Mme Giry just crossing the stage screaming "MEEEEG" 😂
I got to see this Live in Las Vegas Saturday night at 7:00 with my mom. It was so amazing. We had balcony seats. I got to buy three souvenirs. A bag, shirt and souvenir brochure. I also got to meet the boy who played Gustave (Jake Heston Miller). Got to take a picture with him too. He was really sweet and during the picture, he hugged me and I hugged him. I really wished and hoped though that I would get a picture taken with The Phantom and Christine and meet them but it didn’t happen sadly. I also didn’t get to meet Raoul, Meg, Madame Giry, Dr. Dangle, Mister Squelch, or Miss Fleck which is disappointing and sad really because they are the main characters after all. But I had a really fun time none the less. In fact, it was one of the best nights of my life.
I saw an interview. He said that was his way ending the phantom and letting his fans know he was done with it. But, i agree with you. I wanted to see them finally get together and be happy.
@@joannefink3595 I've seen the whole show 4 times 😊 But the last time I saw Phantom of the opera and Love never dies right after each other, and that's why I made the comment 😉
One of my favorite tropes is seeing people completely out of their element. It makes for either a deep re-examination of the character or hilarious comedy. Seeing the Phantom frantic, also literally playing the negotiator in what's basically a hostage crisis/murder-suicide attempt, was especially interesting. In PotO he was in control of everything 95% of the time. Seeing him completely at someone's mercy--a girl he's barely noticed, no less--was like a splash of cold water (plus his little scream when Meg pulled the gun!).
You know, I was thinking the same thing! 😁Being a huge fan of American Horror Story and of Phantom, I would love to see if Ryan Murphy (creator of American Horror Story) would collaborate with Andrew Lloyd Webber and perhaps do a new season and revisit the Freak Show theme and in some way, integrate the Eric/Christine storyline into it. 🙂
The changes he made to Beauty Underneath and incorporating these into the finale, I am so glad ALW did this! As much as loved the initial rendition, the new rendition truly is far more chilling and feels more fitting.
I saw this version of LnD yesterday and fell in love with it! I really hope they release a CD of this version because, despite the changes, I really enjoyed this version and even felt the changes gave LnD more of a spark. Especially loved how they changed Beauty Underneath, making Gustave sing the harmonization of The Phantom of the Opera, I remember getting goosebumps realizing this and watching Erik (the Phantom) getting hyped about this too. xD
One thing I was surprised to see changes was Christine's fall after being shot. In the DVD she falls breaking the railing. This version the railing is already "broke".
I think that staging choice was changed just to make the scene more readily visible to the audience, I didn't even notice in fact. Thank you for pointing it out, it's an interesting stage choice!
You're welcome, you are probably right about why they changed it. No problem. I rent to pick up on unusual details that not everyone catches or think about.
It got knocked over. If you look earlier in the video when they were looking for Gustave it was up; however, it got knocked down when they were moving the ramp. So, she actually was supposed to fall and knock the railing down with her. It feels to plain to just leave it down for no reason and just let out a small grunt as you fall to the ground after you’ve been shot.
I told myself I wouldn't cry. Also, I think this show has only improved with time. It started with Ramin and Sierra and it was a pretty good story, love the cast, music and the visuals were ok. The Australian production, just as great as a cast (I don't think I could choose between the pairs) improved music and AMAZING SET DESIGN! And then this one (which I think is the American tour, please correct me if I'm wrong. The red cover, right?) Everything has evolved into a great piece of art which there is a very short list of things I wouldn't do to see it live. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
I still can't believe I actually didn't cry when I saw this live. I did later when I spent two hours at the stage door for the laundress to tell me they'd all left out front 90 minutes prior. It was 11 degrees in that alley!!!! 😩
And I'll still miss Ben Lewis' "TEN YEARS OOOOOLD" from the original Beauty Underneath, but I am so glad he came back to sing the new rendition for the 2018 album.
I much preferred Rachel over Meghan, her voice is absolutely beautiful. But then again, Meghan was great, too. :) I didn’t get to see Gardar as Phantom but I was very happy with his alternate.
I'm glad I could get this up for everybody! I really hope there's another CD recording made for the restaged version, with this cast. They can just take all of my money if only to get that lol
Ikr. This cast is by far the best. You’d be surprised how much control an actor has at carrying a story. They can reinvent the feelings and atmosphere if they just present the dialogue and emotions in a new way. I genuinely feel like that was one of the reasons why people felt like the characters were two different from the original cast. I adore Sierra and Ramin, but I’ve seen their bootleg. They don’t really bring in the old Christine and Erik with the mature ones. Cause the truth of the matter is that almost nobody completely grows up. A part of one’s innocence and vulnerability people once had will always stick with them, even the smallest fraction. The characters in this cast made that fine line between the first musical and this one. Sierra and Ramin and everyone in there just jumped into this one.
I thought love never died was good but nowhere near as good as phantom of the opera I think they could’ve done with like one song from the original and it was a little slow but the finale scene was really good
I was hoping they’d re-work the ending honestly, I never understood why it needed to happen, it just seems like something they did for shock value and not as a means to give us an ending that made sense with the rest of the story.
I saw an interview with webber. He said it was his way of ending phantom. It was also his way of letting fans know he was done with it and wanted to move on.
I feel like they could though if additional backstory were to be provided to better account for them. They're a bit contrived but they are on the verge of making decent sense.
For me, any plot works at all, specially after reading the POTO book, but the music and acting are still good. I woulf love it if it was separated from POTO.
Thank god for the HD cameras Thank you so much for uploading do you have beauty underneath and benath a moonleas sky? I freaking need a DVD of this version!! Its absolutely perfect! :D
Sandy w. I fear this is the only video I have, my seat for the first part of the show didn’t afford me a good recording view. And thank god for iPhones lol!
@@queenofdisney3912 Sadly, the one on DVD is the 2012 Australian production, and as amazing as that is, it was filmed before the changes made to Beauty Underneath and the other few changes made. But this can all be heard in full, with all show dialogue, too, on the 2018 studio album.
Ah thanks so much for posting! :) loved it, the changes to the ending were amazing. love the reprise of Beauty underneath. Makes it more spooky and intense. Wish the show was in Pittsburgh longer so I could've seen it more. Glad youtube finally let you post.
Ash Lynn I’m so happy I could put this out there for fellow Phans :). I absolutely adored the changes made to the show and thought it improved the story so significantly. I was lucky to get tickets on the last day in Pittsburgh, and that I love close enough the bad weather didn’t stop us from going! It was such an amazing experiences.
Deanna I am actually going to be able to see it in Las Vegas in March. But from all the videos I've seen and heard my favorite Change had to have been the new beautiful and beauty underneath
The new Beauty Underneath gave me chills! I'd seen the taped version backwards and forwards so I was like "Oh, I know all the songs", felt very smug, and then this wonderful changed song. Got a ton better IMHO.
r3dact3d oh boy let me tell ya, I knew there was a change to the song, but my soul was not prepared for what they did. I thought the lyric and musical changes were glorious. It gave me chills, too, and I wish I could have gotten video, because the staging changes beautifully. It was much darker, creepier. The stage continued to rotate, and cite little Gustave just follows Phantom as he walks backwards and gets more and more jerky and manic.
OMG Yes! The part where Phantom walks backwards while the stage rotates! It was AMAZING! I hope they do a new version of the taped show with this improved version. (And Gardar...although Bronson was very good too! It's the accent that gets me lol)
All this does is make me like and feel stronger for Meg and Raoul.(Meg because of the plot, Raoul because of the hatchet job this did to his character.) It solidifies even more why Christine and Erick are not perfect for each other and how much of a sadistic jerk Erick is. Plus it turns Christine into an idiot.
Hope they bring this to the UK in the not too distant future :) Love the addition of a reprise of Beauty Underneath; makes the carnival seem more intimidating and intense. If only they got in there a few seconds earlier, they would have found Gustave and none of this would have happened :( I like how it takes a while for Raoul to step in and take Christine in his arms; leaving the Phantom literally hanging onto her with his fingertips as he doesn't want to lay her on the ground, before quickly running to the edge of the pier. I think it wasn't as exaggerated as the Australian though......Ben Lewis really was dramatic at the end there......at least this one is more believable and less dramatic. Who is playing the Phantom in this one? He is really good actor and singer.
I hope you get it, this version was very, very, very much improved from the Australian version, in my opinion. The Beauty Underneath reprise was GLORIOUS, so much more tension to the scene! The Phantom was Gardar Thor Cortes, and he was spectacular in both acting and singing. Probably my favorite phantom of all time now.
@@lskye3051 you can see the 2012 live filming of it almost anywhere, even DVD, but that was before they made the changes to beauty underneath, as well as a few other minor changes. Though that can all be heard on the 2018 album, and Ben Lewis reprises his role as phantom for the new rendition of Beauty Underneath, too!
I wish they made Meg mad at the Madame Giry for giving her attention to the Phantom rather than having her mad at the Phantom to giving his attention to Christine. I mean think about it, Meg performing goes long before Love Never Dies but also the original show. And Madame Giry was so focused on keeping the Phantom hidden since he was a kid far before she has Meg. Meg’s entire life has been dedicated to performing, while the teacher being her own mother. And when Madame Giry got mad he invited Christine back during the timeline of Love Never Dies, it annoys Meg even more considering she’s hyper focused on someone else’s life rather than her own daughter’s. And the lyrics in the end, “Bathing beauty in the dark, on their laps, in their arms, in their beds.” Meg has been SA’ed, possibly even further, which unfortunately is very common for performers even in 2022 let alone the late 1800’s. Her story could have been representative to childhood stardom and abusive parents which comes with that but no we get another love triangle which has already done just the musical prior.
i feel like it *was* representative of childhood stardom and abusive parents, just that meg herself doesn’t see it that way. her mom has manipulated her all these years and constantly enforced for her that she needs erik’s approval and that he’s the bad guy, so it makes sense that she would resent him and herself for not winning his affection at least in my opinion
@@lonniecynth I suppose so, but I feel like it makes more sense for the child to want validation from the person who raised them (Madame Giry) rather than the person who didn't (Erik). It just feels like Andrew Lloyd Webber is trying to force another love triangle when it's not needed.
@@JulietteVeronica1201 I mean, to be honest, it feels like she can only get validation from her mother if she gets validation from the phantom, too. during every “mother did you watch” song in LND mme. giry is only ever focused on “well, christine is coning” or “he wasn’t there, he was with christine”. also in the beginning of Dear Old Friends giry was saying “keep working hard, he’s writing something that’s not cheap vaudeville trash that you may get to preform” so basically all her work is in the effort of his attention. honestly, this may be wrong, but I never got a love triangle sense from it at all- maybe she would’ve taken romantic love from him but I feel like she just wanted his attention in general, she felt like they were similar. not necessarily in a parental way but I don’t think necessarily in a romantic way at all. (sorry for the rant i just love LND lol)
r3dact3d I was so happy to be able to record them! And yeah, that’s definitely a bit of blocking that always comes across as uncomfortable. Too closed a space, I think. And Raoul hadn’t made it to the boat yet and turns around to come back, he was just on his way to the docks.
Kristen Hughes I know this’ll probably sound cheesy, but if that’s your actual photo ad your icon I believe I saw you in the entrance foyer before the show lol! I loved seeing the show, and just had to get something to keep ;) so glad you could relieve the awesome event with these too!
That is actually me! Thats so cool!! I have Broadway season tickets and I've never even seen Phantom so I didn't think I would like this very much, but it ended up being one of my favorite shows I've ever seen! I'm obsessed with it now
Omg I don't know who plays Fleck, but she's got a wonderful voice!! This Meg also has a great voice, but she doesn't sound "Meg enough" to me, I like how Sharon Millerchip's voice was so different from Anna O'Byrne, it worked with the characters...
omg this is so sad but it does tie in with phantom at the beginning raoul says things like ‘used’ and ‘Sung’ as if she did it before and why she isnt With him at the auction part so yes it does tie In
Remember the red rose on her grave at the end of the movie? Raoul always gave her a single red rose...and wasn't there a ring there too? I must watch that part again...
Honestly, I prefer more Australian version of LND rather than Sierra and Ramin(but im obsessed with them in POTO) just because the story is about the sequences after 10 years of their life so they got wiser and older thats why they act a bit serious or shy😅 like they’re not that young and hot and full of emotions, theyre stopped by their own fate. Specially, in the finale scene when Gustave came to his real father, Erik was worried and smashed, he had no idea what to do next, he’s upset with his love’s death and there was a son who ran away from him once. He was thinking and thinking while his little hope came to him and showed that he saw the beauty underneath
I mean, the video only does so much for it, you can’t see their faces in this like I did live. Plus stage actors are required to emote more, as they have to get their emotional responses across to people in the back of the auditorium. I quite enjoy all the actors live, but that kay just be what I got from it!
Deanna yeah, I agree. I'm an actor myself and understand how hard it is to get all that emotion across the whole auditorium, I'm sure I'll like it a lot more though when I see it in person. I don't mean to offend anyone in the comment I left if I do. I respect all the actors and actresses but it seem a little over dramatic from how the phantom lunges forward when men threatens to push Gustave over the edge. But I do understand your point and agree 100%
I'm going to add an interesting comment that Jake told me when he took me backstage. He said that for this particular moment, he gets scared. Gardar is so close to the edge and leans during the hug that the boys can see over his back and to the stage. He knows Gardar is extremely strong and will take care of him no matter what, but he is still scared that they will fall. Maybe, at times, this particular scene can lack emotion that we as the audience want, but it could be due to something as simple as being a little closer to the edge as usual and the boys looking for reassurance. I agree with both of your comments Lazy Man and Deanna. just thought I would share that info that Jake told me. It made me think about this scene differently. and how these boys show so much trust as actors for their stage dads.
I've been thinking, Christine could not have died in this scene! So we might just have lost the happy ever after! 😍 If you watch Phantom of the opera she should have died much older! So if they shall stick to what happened in the first film she have to survive and just have passed out from a non-lethal bullet 😁 They make it a big deal how Raoul and the Phantom visit her grave, and if I remember correctly, the date on the grave would put her in her 60's. 😍
Desirae Jenks Because she knows this is the last time she’ll see her son before she dies, and at the same time the last time Gustave with see his mom before she dies.
Desirae Jenks from what I can hear she’s yelling no Gustave a couple times and then says somebody get him. I’m not sure if that’s right but it’s what I heard
What If Gustave Had Died Instead of Christine. Here’s what should happen. Gangle, Fleck, Christine, Phantom, Squelch and Scarecrow run out to find Gustave dying in Dorothy’s arms* Gustave: Dorothy? You came back. Dorothy: Of course I came back. I couldn’t let Meg Hurt you. Oh this is all my fault. If only I gotten here sooner. Gustave: Maybe… it’s better this way. Dorothy: Don’t say that. We’re together now. Everything is going to be fine. Gustave: *puts his hand on Dorothy’s Cheek* At least… I got to see you… one last time…*dies in Dorothy’s arm* Dorothy: No. No! Gustave! Gustave! Please don’t leave me. *sobs on his chest* I love you…
This didn’t make sense. In the original novel when raoul brings the monkey to the cemetery and place it on the grave Christine was in her 60’s when she died
What i dont understand though is didnt raoul book and leave on a ship? Why does he just show back up?? How did gustave manage to just whip his papa out of thin air??😭
i always figured he left the note and stayed to watch christine sing and see if she was really making that decision, and then left so he was able to catch him but i guess it wasn’t really explained at all how he got back so quickly
The phantom works as a sympathetic villain, but once you try to make him a 100% protagonist, you have to ignore all the absolutely horrible things he’s done. (You know. Kidnapping, murder, arson, etc.) And then making a character like Meg the new villain is even more bizarre.
Couldn't agree more. I love him as a tragic, sympathetic villain with a bittersweet redemption, but making him an antihero (who still does things like make veiled threats against a child) really doesn't work.
And yeah, Meg was certainly an... odd... choice for villain.
What's funny is that they could have just drawn from the source material and made Phillipe the villain. You give ties to Raoul's family and make him seem like more of a dick (and explain his complete 180 by showing his family is basically turning him into a strict drunk to meet their ever growing demands) and get to add sympathy to the Phantom since his attempts to run away and atone (maybe Coney Island was his attempt to "start over" and be better) are just being met with more pushback from an unforgiving world. It would also make him better if the child wasn't his but Raouls who felt excluded and is eventually aided in seeing "the beauty underneath" despite the harsh rules of Raoul's family.
Meg is the great Villain of Love never dies in The Phantom of the Opera she took the mask and hurting Gustave and pull out the gun
But don't forget, the Phantom (now Myster.Y) at the start threatened Christine she would "leave home alone" if she doesn't sing for him, implying that he would harm her husband and child.
Christine is not really the Villain she is the parent
The ending actually pissed me off. The best thing about the phantom was his cunning and wit. He was always one step ahead of everyone. You think he’d have more brain cells to not mention Christine to a woman who just yelled at him she’s going to kill herself because he never paid attention to her due to Christine. Huge flaw there and therefore Christine wouldn’t have died. I love phantom and I loved moments of this play but this ending just made me say, “Really?”
Actually it makes sense given context, 10 years, the phantom had become even more obsessed with christine, he loved her but let her go and till i hear you sing shows that the phantom feels completely lost without her.
I love how it just doesnt shed light on meg killing her best friend and she done goofed up
What a pity, when it really counted, he couldn't blast out a high note to melt a woman's suicidal rage...
@@superlunadoodles6529Well she did goof but in no moment did Meg intend to kill her or even hurt Gustave, so it's unfair to hate her for that. As the commenter said, she wouldn't have freaked out like that had the Phantom not said literally the ONE thing she didn't want to hear that moment.
Well the phantom did spend like most of his life isolated from people. I'd bet he had no idea what to say to Meg.
the whole meta of the story is phantom . found his true love again. finally got her . finds out the boy he befriends is his son . woman he loves dies . but in a sad way finally found real love .......his son
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Omg why can’t Andrew Lloyd Webber let phantom be happy 😭😭
honestly i don't think he deserves it after what he did to christine in poto. i would prefer for christine and meg and mme giry and raoul to be happy
According to Phantom of the opera she have at least 20-30 years left to live! So she must have just passed out, but survived 😉😍
I agree with you completely.
Ive heard a theory that it's all in Erik's mind. A friend of mine came up with it, I think, and I added onto it
They said that he just couldn't bring himself to be happy. I think he made meg and raoul worse but still within reasonable limits (I have my own reasons for thinking they're reasonable, but it's long so). He made christine love him, and since madame giry didnt have much in the original, she got that. And he let the story play out, but couldnt ignore what the characters would actually do based on how he'd made them, so christine died
@@juliadietrich3584 that would be weird that he let her die in his fantasy.
Imagine the guy who played the phantom accidentally fell Off the pier
One of the Gustave’s actually did.... oops. But they’re fine.
Gardar leaned so far back.. made me gasp every time. But he’s totally comfortable with that moment.
Still terrifying though
Katherine R. In Ft Lauderdale one tripped, but idk if he fell off.
Oh dear where can I find the one where that happened?
How do they save the moment if such thing happens to Christine/Gustave/The Giry’s/Phantom?
The Phantom sealed Christine's fate by talking her up in front of her jealous, suicidal best friend. Fitting. Honestly this whole play feels like a fanfic lmao.
Alternate ending I thought of, it’s probably not very good:
The Phantom does not mention Christine when attempting to calm Meg. Instead, Meg refuses to forgive the Phantom for all her suffering, still rambling about how it was all his fault. Meg shoots, aiming for the Phantom, but her hand is too shaky to make proper aim. Christine and the Phantom expect to be hurt, but Gustave falls instead. Meg drops the gun and she and her mother go to look for help.
Gustave reveals through a reprise of “Look With Your Heart” that he guessed that the Phantom was his father all along, and asks how they met. The Phantom and Christine sing a short reprise of “Once Upon Another Time,” and Gustave takes off the Phantom’s mask. But instead of screaming, he jokes about how he ran away before. He drops the mask at his side as he dies.
Christine, heartbroken beyond belief, picks up the gun and points it toward herself, only to remember the Phantom is still there. He sings the reprise of “Love Never Dies,” and she lets go of the gun. Raoul arrives, in shock of his dead son, but does not move to touch him, knowing he was not a good enough father. The Phantom and Christine cradle his body as the curtain drops.
No this is actually really good, I really like it!
Wow, this is really good! Not me crying reading this
Oh my god this is heartbreaking but such a good idea
“Give me the gun Christine”
Raoul did send the Litter it did said May angel of music will watch over you now
And Gustav is now traumatized for life
I'm sorry, but when Raoul starts holding Christine, I just can't handle it. It's too sad 😭😭😭 He wasn't even there when his wife died 😭😭😭
Keep forgetting she was still his wife who were also his childhood play mate and childhood sweetheart. I’m gonna go to a corner and cry now.
@@beneddiected same I will be in the corner with you
It’s his fault he’s the one that made a deal with the phantom and left her
"Give me the gun, Meg" said the Phantom of the Opera 🤣
I see you're a man of culture as well.
This show is different with every single videos I'm watching ! It's a bit confusing because all versions are so good
Also I really love Mme Giry just crossing the stage screaming "MEEEEG" 😂
I got to see this Live in Las Vegas Saturday night at 7:00 with my mom. It was so amazing. We had balcony seats. I got to buy three souvenirs. A bag, shirt and souvenir brochure. I also got to meet the boy who played Gustave (Jake Heston Miller). Got to take a picture with him too. He was really sweet and during the picture, he hugged me and I hugged him. I really wished and hoped though that I would get a picture taken with The Phantom and Christine and meet them but it didn’t happen sadly. I also didn’t get to meet Raoul, Meg, Madame Giry, Dr. Dangle, Mister Squelch, or Miss Fleck which is disappointing and sad really because they are the main characters after all. But I had a really fun time none the less. In fact, it was one of the best nights of my life.
Eristine Forever
That sounds awesome
I’m glad you had a grate time
@@peggyskyler3283 I did have a great time. Thank you.
The ending... Andrew, why did you have to make Christine die at the end?!! Tear up everytime.
I saw an interview. He said that was his way ending the phantom and letting his fans know he was done with it.
But, i agree with you. I wanted to see them finally get together and be happy.
But she couldn't have died! According to Phantom of the opera, her grave says she became 20-30 years older than this! She only passed out 😁
@@hege4318 I really do not want to spoil it for anyone....trust me, you need to find this and watch the entire thing. It was amazing! POTO FOREVER
@@joannefink3595 I've seen the whole show 4 times 😊 But the last time I saw Phantom of the opera and Love never dies right after each other, and that's why I made the comment 😉
@@hege4318 not sure how I tagged you. My apologies lol It was another comment someone made about her dying. Hmm wonder where.
One of my favorite tropes is seeing people completely out of their element. It makes for either a deep re-examination of the character or hilarious comedy. Seeing the Phantom frantic, also literally playing the negotiator in what's basically a hostage crisis/murder-suicide attempt, was especially interesting. In PotO he was in control of everything 95% of the time. Seeing him completely at someone's mercy--a girl he's barely noticed, no less--was like a splash of cold water (plus his little scream when Meg pulled the gun!).
The Beauty Underneath reprise is giving me American horror story season 4 freak show vibes
Yes, specially knowing of that hope them
You know, I was thinking the same thing! 😁Being a huge fan of American Horror Story and of Phantom, I would love to see if Ryan Murphy (creator of American Horror Story) would collaborate with Andrew Lloyd Webber and perhaps do a new season and revisit the Freak Show theme and in some way, integrate the Eric/Christine storyline into it. 🙂
I honestly think he says "Then I'll make that vixen pay!" perfectly and with so much emotion. He has such a strong, beautiful voice!
That makes no sense
The changes he made to Beauty Underneath and incorporating these into the finale, I am so glad ALW did this! As much as loved the initial rendition, the new rendition truly is far more chilling and feels more fitting.
I saw this version of LnD yesterday and fell in love with it! I really hope they release a CD of this version because, despite the changes, I really enjoyed this version and even felt the changes gave LnD more of a spark. Especially loved how they changed Beauty Underneath, making Gustave sing the harmonization of The Phantom of the Opera, I remember getting goosebumps realizing this and watching Erik (the Phantom) getting hyped about this too. xD
There is already a CD version. It is really beutiful.
One thing I was surprised to see changes was Christine's fall after being shot. In the DVD she falls breaking the railing. This version the railing is already "broke".
I think that staging choice was changed just to make the scene more readily visible to the audience, I didn't even notice in fact. Thank you for pointing it out, it's an interesting stage choice!
You're welcome, you are probably right about why they changed it. No problem. I rent to pick up on unusual details that not everyone catches or think about.
Desirae Jenks that’s an awesome thing to have, especially with shows like this, you catch the little things!
It got knocked over. If you look earlier in the video when they were looking for Gustave it was up; however, it got knocked down when they were moving the ramp. So, she actually was supposed to fall and knock the railing down with her. It feels to plain to just leave it down for no reason and just let out a small grunt as you fall to the ground after you’ve been shot.
When I saw the show in Utica the one railing was always down.
I told myself I wouldn't cry. Also, I think this show has only improved with time. It started with Ramin and Sierra and it was a pretty good story, love the cast, music and the visuals were ok. The Australian production, just as great as a cast (I don't think I could choose between the pairs) improved music and AMAZING SET DESIGN! And then this one (which I think is the American tour, please correct me if I'm wrong. The red cover, right?) Everything has evolved into a great piece of art which there is a very short list of things I wouldn't do to see it live.
Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
I still can't believe I actually didn't cry when I saw this live. I did later when I spent two hours at the stage door for the laundress to tell me they'd all left out front 90 minutes prior. It was 11 degrees in that alley!!!! 😩
Oh no!!! I'm so sorry that ended up happening for you. I kinda sped out of there as fast as I could to get out of the parking garage fast lol
I'm the same way, I can't believe I didn't cry when I saw this live, yet I just watched it again and started bawling
I'm used to hearing Christine's fall with a breaking sound of the railing. Oh well. Why must you break it, Anna O'Byrne? lol
And I'll still miss Ben Lewis' "TEN YEARS OOOOOLD" from the original Beauty Underneath, but I am so glad he came back to sing the new rendition for the 2018 album.
Willow Lackett there’s a 2018 album???
so the railing won't block the viewers' view haha
I AM LIVING FOR THIS VERSION OF THE SHOW
I much preferred Rachel over Meghan, her voice is absolutely beautiful. But then again, Meghan was great, too. :)
I didn’t get to see Gardar as Phantom but I was very happy with his alternate.
really late reply but yeah Bronson ended up being fantastic during this tour
That was worth waiting for, thank you! Now if they would only offer an official CD....
I'm glad I could get this up for everybody! I really hope there's another CD recording made for the restaged version, with this cast. They can just take all of my money if only to get that lol
You betcha! We would all really "pay up" for that!!!
Indeed!
Ikr. This cast is by far the best. You’d be surprised how much control an actor has at carrying a story. They can reinvent the feelings and atmosphere if they just present the dialogue and emotions in a new way. I genuinely feel like that was one of the reasons why people felt like the characters were two different from the original cast. I adore Sierra and Ramin, but I’ve seen their bootleg. They don’t really bring in the old Christine and Erik with the mature ones. Cause the truth of the matter is that almost nobody completely grows up. A part of one’s innocence and vulnerability people once had will always stick with them, even the smallest fraction. The characters in this cast made that fine line between the first musical and this one. Sierra and Ramin and everyone in there just jumped into this one.
There is but it’s this version but with the Australian cast
i love beauty underneath reprise i just like the way it flows and how mysterious it is
I thought love never died was good but nowhere near as good as phantom of the opera I think they could’ve done with like one song from the original and it was a little slow but the finale scene was really good
Well they took songs from the first one and changed or at least parts and left them like the original
I cry when Gustave comes back bc Raoul is with him
"we can't all be like Christine" and thats when he knew, he fucked up.
This scene makes me cry every time I watch it 😭❤
Saw this show live a few weeks ago...Gardar was amazing!
Highly suggest not watching this in class my dudes
Boo Johnstun
Note taken my dude 😂
Because crying?
I did yesterday and luckily I paused before the saddest part so I wouldn’t be crying in class.
Yeah wouldn’t want my classmates to see me crying randomly
And now he'll never hear her sing once more. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
That's what makes it so sad 😭
“Give me the gun” said the Phantom of the opera
I was hoping they’d re-work the ending honestly, I never understood why it needed to happen, it just seems like something they did for shock value and not as a means to give us an ending that made sense with the rest of the story.
I saw an interview with webber. He said it was his way of ending phantom. It was also his way of letting fans know he was done with it and wanted to move on.
And he also had cancer when he created this, so it affected every aspect of it.
I do really miss the original flecks voice. Just so beautiful.
the Meg story plot and Raoul a drunk plot really don't work at all
I feel like they could though if additional backstory were to be provided to better account for them. They're a bit contrived but they are on the verge of making decent sense.
See i never understood why she was happy to go see the phantom again was that because of the kid?
@The Pikachu Brothers ok al got it
For me, any plot works at all, specially after reading the POTO book, but the music and acting are still good. I woulf love it if it was separated from POTO.
I feel like the plot is not that bad by itself, but as a Phantom of The Opera sequel...
Thank god for the HD cameras
Thank you so much for uploading
do you have beauty underneath and benath a moonleas sky?
I freaking need a DVD of this version!! Its absolutely perfect! :D
Sandy w. I fear this is the only video I have, my seat for the first part of the show didn’t afford me a good recording view. And thank god for iPhones lol!
This version is on dvd 📀 I love watching it 😁
@@queenofdisney3912 Sadly, the one on DVD is the 2012 Australian production, and as amazing as that is, it was filmed before the changes made to Beauty Underneath and the other few changes made. But this can all be heard in full, with all show dialogue, too, on the 2018 studio album.
Imagine if Gustave pushing the phantom into the water lol
Oh no! 😫
Ah thanks so much for posting! :) loved it, the changes to the ending were amazing. love the reprise of Beauty underneath. Makes it more spooky and intense. Wish the show was in Pittsburgh longer so I could've seen it more. Glad youtube finally let you post.
Ash Lynn I’m so happy I could put this out there for fellow Phans :). I absolutely adored the changes made to the show and thought it improved the story so significantly. I was lucky to get tickets on the last day in Pittsburgh, and that I love close enough the bad weather didn’t stop us from going! It was such an amazing experiences.
Deanna I am actually going to be able to see it in Las Vegas in March. But from all the videos I've seen and heard my favorite Change had to have been the new beautiful and beauty underneath
The new Beauty Underneath gave me chills! I'd seen the taped version backwards and forwards so I was like "Oh, I know all the songs", felt very smug, and then this wonderful changed song. Got a ton better IMHO.
r3dact3d oh boy let me tell ya, I knew there was a change to the song, but my soul was not prepared for what they did. I thought the lyric and musical changes were glorious. It gave me chills, too, and I wish I could have gotten video, because the staging changes beautifully. It was much darker, creepier. The stage continued to rotate, and cite little Gustave just follows Phantom as he walks backwards and gets more and more jerky and manic.
OMG Yes! The part where Phantom walks backwards while the stage rotates! It was AMAZING! I hope they do a new version of the taped show with this improved version. (And Gardar...although Bronson was very good too! It's the accent that gets me lol)
Singing perfect opera while shot, only Christine Daae could pull that off!
All this does is make me like and feel stronger for Meg and Raoul.(Meg because of the plot, Raoul because of the hatchet job this did to his character.) It solidifies even more why Christine and Erick are not perfect for each other and how much of a sadistic jerk Erick is. Plus it turns Christine into an idiot.
I saw it live last night! it was amazing!!!! Although I was a little disappointed in the ending. It kind of left me hanging.
I'd straight up puke spinning like that on the pier.
11:46 Vader did it first
Wow this version has me sobbing !!!!
I love how she made it sound like she was struggling to sing because she got shot ! Truly amazing
Nice. i love the ending when he screams NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
clayton bradt it was a wonderful performance. Gardar was spectacular!
Hope they bring this to the UK in the not too distant future :) Love the addition of a reprise of Beauty Underneath; makes the carnival seem more intimidating and intense. If only they got in there a few seconds earlier, they would have found Gustave and none of this would have happened :( I like how it takes a while for Raoul to step in and take Christine in his arms; leaving the Phantom literally hanging onto her with his fingertips as he doesn't want to lay her on the ground, before quickly running to the edge of the pier. I think it wasn't as exaggerated as the Australian though......Ben Lewis really was dramatic at the end there......at least this one is more believable and less dramatic. Who is playing the Phantom in this one? He is really good actor and singer.
I hope you get it, this version was very, very, very much improved from the Australian version, in my opinion. The Beauty Underneath reprise was GLORIOUS, so much more tension to the scene! The Phantom was Gardar Thor Cortes, and he was spectacular in both acting and singing. Probably my favorite phantom of all time now.
His voice is amazing and he is so intimidating :O
I hope they come to Germany
th official Australian Production has full orchestra and it sounds wonderful
When's it coming to Australia??
@@lskye3051 you can see the 2012 live filming of it almost anywhere, even DVD, but that was before they made the changes to beauty underneath, as well as a few other minor changes. Though that can all be heard on the 2018 album, and Ben Lewis reprises his role as phantom for the new rendition of Beauty Underneath, too!
@@WillowTitov cool!! Thank you!!
Saw this in Dallas, it was awesome, set was gorgeous, and it sounds better in person.
Thank you so much for uploading this!!! 😭❤️ I saw the show and can’t wait to see it again.
NewsieandAGeek I’m so glad I could do this for fellow Phans ❤️ it was a great experience and I wish I could see it again.
As another villain reminds us: the bill always comes due.
I saw this in October for my birthday it was a great expirence
I wish they made Meg mad at the Madame Giry for giving her attention to the Phantom rather than having her mad at the Phantom to giving his attention to Christine. I mean think about it, Meg performing goes long before Love Never Dies but also the original show. And Madame Giry was so focused on keeping the Phantom hidden since he was a kid far before she has Meg. Meg’s entire life has been dedicated to performing, while the teacher being her own mother. And when Madame Giry got mad he invited Christine back during the timeline of Love Never Dies, it annoys Meg even more considering she’s hyper focused on someone else’s life rather than her own daughter’s. And the lyrics in the end, “Bathing beauty in the dark, on their laps, in their arms, in their beds.” Meg has been SA’ed, possibly even further, which unfortunately is very common for performers even in 2022 let alone the late 1800’s. Her story could have been representative to childhood stardom and abusive parents which comes with that but no we get another love triangle which has already done just the musical prior.
i feel like it *was* representative of childhood stardom and abusive parents, just that meg herself doesn’t see it that way. her mom has manipulated her all these years and constantly enforced for her that she needs erik’s approval and that he’s the bad guy, so it makes sense that she would resent him and herself for not winning his affection at least in my opinion
@@lonniecynth I suppose so, but I feel like it makes more sense for the child to want validation from the person who raised them (Madame Giry) rather than the person who didn't (Erik). It just feels like Andrew Lloyd Webber is trying to force another love triangle when it's not needed.
@@JulietteVeronica1201 I mean, to be honest, it feels like she can only get validation from her mother if she gets validation from the phantom, too. during every “mother did you watch” song in LND mme. giry is only ever focused on “well, christine is coning” or “he wasn’t there, he was with christine”. also in the beginning of Dear Old Friends giry was saying “keep working hard, he’s writing something that’s not cheap vaudeville trash that you may get to preform” so basically all her work is in the effort of his attention. honestly, this may be wrong, but I never got a love triangle sense from it at all- maybe she would’ve taken romantic love from him but I feel like she just wanted his attention in general, she felt like they were similar. not necessarily in a parental way but I don’t think necessarily in a romantic way at all. (sorry for the rant i just love LND lol)
Thanks for all of your videos!
r3dact3d I was so happy to be able to record them! And yeah, that’s definitely a bit of blocking that always comes across as uncomfortable. Too closed a space, I think. And Raoul hadn’t made it to the boat yet and turns around to come back, he was just on his way to the docks.
r3dact3d yeah. Too close. Her ass would be lassoed in a real situation
christine always loves phantom
Bless you for uploading this ❤
If this was the last Pittsburgh show then I was there!! Thank you so so much for uploading this, I was so excited to be able to see it again!!
Kristen Hughes I know this’ll probably sound cheesy, but if that’s your actual photo ad your icon I believe I saw you in the entrance foyer before the show lol! I loved seeing the show, and just had to get something to keep ;) so glad you could relieve the awesome event with these too!
That is actually me! Thats so cool!! I have Broadway season tickets and I've never even seen Phantom so I didn't think I would like this very much, but it ended up being one of my favorite shows I've ever seen! I'm obsessed with it now
I cry so hard when she dies.
6:42 I get chills every time
In the dvd the "pier" wasn't curved. But this one looks cool as its spinning!
The rotating stage was very cool! Looked great live
they cut the ‘Streets of Coney Island’ bit where meg’s luring gustave out of the Australian recording, it’s so cool though!
Omg I don't know who plays Fleck, but she's got a wonderful voice!!
This Meg also has a great voice, but she doesn't sound "Meg enough" to me, I like how Sharon Millerchip's voice was so different from Anna O'Byrne, it worked with the characters...
Sharon Millerchip was undoubtedly the best LND Meg
@@isabellamoya3934 simping for Sharon Millerchip in LND Australia is my passion
@@noegiard494 oh my gosh, I’m not the only one!!!
i love you for uploading this
I'm glad I could make lots of people happy by getting what I could from the show! Thanks for putting a smile on my face in return :)
Absolutely amazing!
The Phantom did show beauty underneath with Gustave that proves Gustave is The Phantom son
Meg actually is the Villain she did take The Phantom mask
Christine Death is not sad its about the father and wife is having the son name Gustave
omg this is so sad but it does tie in with phantom
at the beginning raoul says things like ‘used’ and
‘Sung’ as if she did it before and why she isnt
With him at the auction part so yes it does tie
In
Remember the red rose on her grave at the end of the movie?
Raoul always gave her a single red rose...and wasn't there a ring there too?
I must watch that part again...
Fun fact: in the phantom of the opera movie, there’s a epilogue scene where you see grave showing that Christine died
Should I be sobbing my eyes out at 12:30 am in the morning??
Thank you Deanna! Can’t wait to see this! :)
I hope you enjoy it when you do!
Honestly, I prefer more Australian version of LND rather than Sierra and Ramin(but im obsessed with them in POTO) just because the story is about the sequences after 10 years of their life so they got wiser and older thats why they act a bit serious or shy😅 like they’re not that young and hot and full of emotions, theyre stopped by their own fate. Specially, in the finale scene when Gustave came to his real father, Erik was worried and smashed, he had no idea what to do next, he’s upset with his love’s death and there was a son who ran away from him once. He was thinking and thinking while his little hope came to him and showed that he saw the beauty underneath
It would be nice if this musical did made it to Broadway!
Oh god I cry every time!
Also, isn’t Meg here played by Mary Michael Patterson? She once played Christine in BROADWAY!
I'll have to check the playbill when I get back to my dorm, I'm not totally sure!
Well, the Original cast says Mary did play meg. Though not sure particularly in this video but it’s an interesting fun fact :P
I'm pretty sure I had the listed cast, so you're probably correct!
I had a chance to study the variety of actors playing their roles. This Meg's voice sounds like Mary Michael Patterson, so I think this is her.
Meg was played by Mary Michael Patterson! And holy crap she is absolutely beautiful. I couldn’t believe my eyes watching her live.
7:36 - 7:38 small steps Phantom, small baby steps before going to Christine XD
I loved this show! Did you record this at Rhode Island's PPAC? Their last showing of Love Never Dies happened around 3 years ago, i think.
Wow this was so much better than the movie...
Is that stage too small for what is required? In general?
7:34 the total silence when she's like "aahhh"
I have to hand it to you it was almost what I wanted.
Thank you for uploading this. It's really good, I just wish that they would show a bit more emotion and act better/less dramatic or exaggerated
I mean, the video only does so much for it, you can’t see their faces in this like I did live. Plus stage actors are required to emote more, as they have to get their emotional responses across to people in the back of the auditorium. I quite enjoy all the actors live, but that kay just be what I got from it!
Deanna yeah, I agree. I'm an actor myself and understand how hard it is to get all that emotion across the whole auditorium, I'm sure I'll like it a lot more though when I see it in person. I don't mean to offend anyone in the comment I left if I do. I respect all the actors and actresses but it seem a little over dramatic from how the phantom lunges forward when men threatens to push Gustave over the edge. But I do understand your point and agree 100%
I'm going to add an interesting comment that Jake told me when he took me backstage. He said that for this particular moment, he gets scared. Gardar is so close to the edge and leans during the hug that the boys can see over his back and to the stage. He knows Gardar is extremely strong and will take care of him no matter what, but he is still scared that they will fall. Maybe, at times, this particular scene can lack emotion that we as the audience want, but it could be due to something as simple as being a little closer to the edge as usual and the boys looking for reassurance.
I agree with both of your comments Lazy Man and Deanna. just thought I would share that info that Jake told me. It made me think about this scene differently. and how these boys show so much trust as actors for their stage dads.
I didn’t see anything wrong with the acting, it’s stage acting, not film acting. It’s supposed to be exaggerated
Was Gustave saying something to the Phantom in the end when he was unmasking him?
No, he doesn't say anything at the end. Just the touch and hug.
Raoul standing there at the end LMAO
I've been thinking, Christine could not have died in this scene! So we might just have lost the happy ever after! 😍 If you watch Phantom of the opera she should have died much older! So if they shall stick to what happened in the first film she have to survive and just have passed out from a non-lethal bullet 😁 They make it a big deal how Raoul and the Phantom visit her grave, and if I remember correctly, the date on the grave would put her in her 60's. 😍
Sooo...Here Gustave is the son of the phantom???...or am i wrong??
Carolina Fuenzalida he is but he thought his father was Raul for 10 years.
What does Christine yell to Gustave as he's running away?
Desirae Jenks Because she knows this is the last time she’ll see her son before she dies, and at the same time the last time Gustave with see his mom before she dies.
Miranda Crivlare thank you. I knew why she was yelling but I couldn't make out what she yelled.
Desirae Jenks from what I can hear she’s yelling no Gustave a couple times and then says somebody get him. I’m not sure if that’s right but it’s what I heard
Thank God this is Gardar Thor Cortes instead of Bronson Norris Murphy or Michael Gillis
Do you have Karen Mason's 1st Act Finale? Can you post it. Thanks.
Richard Edgcomb these are The only recordings I have, because this is only time I’ve seen it live lol
Christine did not die she wants the Phantom to love and live that save him from dying
The Phantom sings Love never dies for Gustave my favorite part ending is Gustave hugs his father The Phantom it was beautiful
Meg is amazing Villain of Love never dies she did took The Phantom mask in the first The Phantom of the Opera
Still nice work. I did not see that before.
Do you have Madame Girys part from the Phantom Confrontd Christine (the part that goes “If the bastard had never been born)
I'm afraid I've uploaded everything I have!
Thank you for uploading this!! It's amazing!
I'm never going to like this show but this is definitely an improvement on the previous iterations of the ending!
I want the Soundtrack for My Birthday and its on the 14th in December. :)
What If Gustave Had Died Instead of Christine. Here’s what should happen.
Gangle, Fleck, Christine, Phantom, Squelch and Scarecrow run out to find Gustave dying in Dorothy’s arms*
Gustave: Dorothy? You came back.
Dorothy: Of course I came back. I couldn’t let Meg Hurt you. Oh this is all my fault. If only I gotten here sooner.
Gustave: Maybe… it’s better this way.
Dorothy: Don’t say that. We’re together now. Everything is going to be fine.
Gustave: *puts his hand on Dorothy’s Cheek* At least… I got to see you… one last time…*dies in Dorothy’s arm*
Dorothy: No. No! Gustave! Gustave! Please don’t leave me. *sobs on his chest* I love you…
do you have a full video or just clips??
Lindsay Carpenter I’ve uploaded everything I have, this is it!
This didn’t make sense. In the original novel when raoul brings the monkey to the cemetery and place it on the grave Christine was in her 60’s when she died
That wasn't in the book, it was created for the 2004 film adaptation.
TimeandMonotony perhaps there was a non canon novel where he did that but yeah it wasn’t the original novel
In the movie he Cries the word no when she dies.
What i dont understand though is didnt raoul book and leave on a ship? Why does he just show back up?? How did gustave manage to just whip his papa out of thin air??😭
i always figured he left the note and stayed to watch christine sing and see if she was really making that decision, and then left so he was able to catch him but i guess it wasn’t really explained at all how he got back so quickly