BMPCC 4K vs. BMPCC 6K Pro | ANIME Edition
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- Welcome to the Blackmagic anime no one asked for! In trying to make a typical camera versus video we decided to make this BMPCC4K versus BMPCC6K Pro video different! Hope you enjoy it and let us know who you think won!
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0:00 At the Dawn of time...
0:45 The battle begins...
2:11 Welcome to the weirdest camera video ever
3:00 BMPCC 4K vs. BMPCC6K Pro: Sensors
3:56 Crop factor and depth of field
5:06 Low light
5:56 Telecentric Optical Path
6:28 Which camera has the better sensor?
7:48 BATTLE #1
8:04 BMPCC 4K vs. BMPCC6K Pro: Lenses
8:28 Lens Selection and the long-term future of EF and MFT
11:04 Pricing
11:24 Which camera has better lenses?
11:48 BATTLE #2
12:09 BMPCC 4K vs. BMPCC6K Pro: Accessories
12:48 Inputs and Hardware
13:00 Audio inputs
13:53 Internal ND
14:04 EVF Options
14:13 Internal Batteries
14:48 Weight
15:04 Which camera wins on Input and Hardware?
15:13 BMPCC 4K vs. BMPCC6K Pro: Bitrate and Storage
15:44 BMPCC 4K vs. BMPCC6K Pro: Rolling Shutter
16:55 THE ESCAPE!
17:00 BMPCC 4K vs. BMPCC6K Pro: Footage Quality
19:46 Who do you think won? *Battle commencing*
20:04 THE FINAL BATTLE
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Be sure to catch the story throughout the video! More Blackmagic Anime to come in the future!
next camera Blackmagic Anime Cinema camera lol still a long name
@@JaspreetSinghArtist start a petition!!
I'm waiting for the surprise appearance of the OG BMPCC.
@@ElusiveFrame I'm sure he'll make an appearance eventually 😂
This is one of the best reviews I have ever seen, great job and to the point, well done 👍👏
Dude, I found one of your videos yesterday and noticed your quality was great, so I subbed. I now saw this and came to realize you only have 4.6K Subs... Life is unfair, this content is crazy. Well done 🙏🏽
Appreciate it! Yeahhhh, I'm working on the subs part haha. Been hoping content like this will start to differentiate me a little bit! I definitely have a strange channel haha
@@FrameVoyager it will, I subbed.
@@connorwagstaff2348 appreciate it!
@@FrameVoyager They definitely do differentiate you, I was thinking about writing the same thing Oliver wrote. The quality of your videos are insanely good, it was a shock when I saw only 9k subs. Glad to know that 6 months ago you were at 4.6k. Keep up the great job! 🔥
@@simoneblax appreciate it! Yeah, thankfully it seems lately I've been hitting all the right trends with video content! 🤞Hoping for 25k subs by end of the year🤞
Great production value on the video!
Appreciate it!
Excellent work! Very informative…and entertaining😊
Appreciate it!
That was the most awesome “camera battle” video i saw in UA-cam, EVER! Congrats!
😂😂 appreciate it!
And yet it was filmed with neither camera. How lame.
I own a P4K. I would definitely get the 6K pro, especially as an A cam. I think the hardware improvements made on the 6K pro are incredible. At the same time, I would love to wait and see if BMD makes something with an RF mount. This only matters to me because with the RF mount I can easily mount any vintage glass on it.
They are both great cameras for sure! It will be interesting to see what they release in October. As a new camera seems almost inevitable at this point.
@@FrameVoyager hopefully something with RF. I’m not too bothered by full frame. I think a S35 sensor with RF which can allow us to use a speed booster would be great
There are soo many lenses, adapter’s and boosters out there that MFT will be a viable option for years to come.. I like the fact an ef mount on a MFT will give you 2 focal lengths, say a 24mm on an adapter gives you basically a 50mm, same lens with a speedbooster keeps it around 24mm..
Love the intro, Great video!
Appreciate it!
Great video, form and content, well done :)
Appreciate it! Trying to incorporate more things like this into future videos! Spice up some boring technical content!
Very interesting. Let's just say: It made me think! Thank you.
😂 no problem!
I loved the intro… very unique and refreshing, and I’m not an anime fan!
that first jab at the blue beard was golden!
😂 thanks! Dumb joke but had to be done
This is the ultimate BMPCC4K vs 6K pro on youtube. (I have 240 BMPCC4K related videos in a playlist so I really know what I'm talking about lol). As for now, I invested in two BMPCC4Ks. One two weeks ago. They are workhorses. One issue I have with the 6K and 6K pro, is the lack of locking EF mount. With the 4K, you can use a cage and a cine speedbooster from metabones that allows you the lock your ef glass. The only drawback is the formfactor for gimbal work. I feel like battery life is a none issue, just use an external npf or vlock and you're good to go (I use two NPF970s mounted on a NEEWER Vlock conversion plate and it works great). One thing they could improve, is giving us 2 usb c, one dedicated to recording and the other one used to connect to a gimbal or something else. When Blackmagic will annonce new cameras in october, I hope they will just make a RF mount bmpcc4K in the formfactor of a blackmagic micro, but I doubt they can because of patents, using mft mount would be ok too. Bigger and with a screen on top or on the side, a smaller ursa would be great. I don't really found a need for 6K resolution tbh. Thanks a lot for the ANIME it is a lot of fun. Have a nice day !
Appreciate it! And you're welcome for the anime! More to come
This was f**king epic!!!!
Thanks! I went hard on that music haha
Loved it! This was so intriguing! But one request is to make the Text more readable. I had to pause and rewind multiple time.
Great work!
Appreciate it! Yeah, really trying to go for different in typically boring content. But those words were more aesthetic and not really meant to be fully read haha. Was going for that Attack on Titans feel where they showing you those information cards. But the text was literally just like what's the definition of a lens haha. I'll change it up next time because you're not the only one who's said something about that
@@FrameVoyager I seriously thought I knew everything about these pockets but boy was I wrong! You come up with valuable information regarding different categories for the pockets everytime! Awesome doing and keep it up!
@@dcfanforlife533 appreciate it! Had to dig deep for this one 😂
Dude 😆 that Anime intro was so jokes hahaha and the Anime intro stinger was pretty awesome!
😂 probably the strangest video I've ever made! Glad you liked it! Who do you think won?.
@@FrameVoyager oh I'm going 6K Pro haha not even a thought.
@@VivaMediaInc haha
Amazing!!!😍
Thank you! 😄
I started with MFT and it was great. I still have a BMPCC OG that I break out from time to time. I moved to super 35 with the FS700R and now with my 6K pro. Both are awesome to work with, MFT and Super 35.
I've always had a soft spot for MFT systems. But I do like my Super 35mm on the URSA cameras. But it's always just understanding how to use each system to it's fullest
This is awesome
Appreciate it!
this is really dope
Appreciate it! Trying to do some more outside the box stuff to make these kind of videos less repeats of what everyone else does
@@FrameVoyager i finally watched the complete video. its was really interesting. Anime theme and you also discussed about future lenses. i was also thinking about new Mirrorless mounts from Nikon/Canon. those lenses are really sharp but i don't there will be anyway to adapt them on cinema cameras. that distance between in mount and sensor is to short and there is no possibility of putting inbuilt ND filters. so i don't see most of cinema cameras manufacturers going into that direction any soon.
and when you discussed about footage you prefer 4k camera footage over 6k. i also felt same when i bought full frame D750. my first short film was on my D7000 and footage was more sharper then full frame and had some texture which me and my friend really liked. for future i am interested in BMPCC. love the colors.
Glad that it was an interesting video beyond the anime bit! That was more to make the boring technical parts more interesting. But yeah, older sensors have that nice look to them sometimes, but it's all so subjective to the creator. The lenses discussion to me is the most interesting. It's going to be interesting to see the direction BMD goes in October with the inevitable release of a new camera.
@@FrameVoyager i just hope they come up with a small Box shaped body other then new BMPCC. that will be very interesting if they can just put 6k pro sensor into the komodo style body with inbuilt ND filters and BM pricing. i am sure they can keep the price at same range.
I think a lot of people are wanting that for sure! Will be interesting to see what they come out with. I feel like whatever it will be will replace the 12k and maybe the G2 with that new sensor they've been using.
Have them both love them both. Just waiting for BM to make a cube body with an RF mount. 4K 120 wouldn’t be bad either😉
That would be pretty sick if they did! Doubt they'll do it though haha
@@FrameVoyager I think the cube and the 4K 120 they could pull off but I doubt the RF mount
Agreed. Only would make sense to go that route if they planned on adding autofocus features in the future
I would rather black magic adopt L mount then RF. Panasonic make amazing L mount lenses for a lot cheaper the RF and sigma have a bunch of New l mount Glass.
Great video!
W8 I thought rolling shutter was caused due to the sensor being scanned top to bottom... Imma read up on it when I'm free.
No you're right! I just messed that part up. What happens when you should check something just to make sure but don't 😂
Would you recommend MFT lenses or getting a metabone with ef lenses for a bmpcc4k? How should I think. Its probably a noob question 😅. Whats the cons and pros? exept that i know that with a metabone I will get a wider field of view.
Well if you have EF lenses and you upgrade to the 6k pro or URSA at some point, you'll have lenses for it already. MFT lenses are great, but I don't see BMD using that lens mount again on any future cameras so if you think you might upgrade at some point, go with the adapter
@@FrameVoyager Im actually gonna pickup a used (almost brand new) 6kpro tomorrow 😊.
@@fjouper nice!! I'm sure you'll love it
Great job with the animations 💥💥💥 I'm looking on 6K pro for wildlife filmmaking but I also having a dillema that whether I buy the 6K pro or wait for another BMPCC with 4K 120p which is crucial for wildlife filmmaking...
Appreciate it! hmmm, I would wait and see what comes out here soon. But I think the 6k pro in a cropped 4k resolution could do 120p I need to look again
@@FrameVoyager Enough waiting! Just ordered 6K pro yesterday...It can do 2.7K 120p BRAW or 1080 120 in Prores
@@janardananwildlife nice choice 😉🔥
Do you have a course. I am now starting off in the video field. I am an audio engineer and ork on flm, theater, live sound and studo.
I have some for the blackmagic cameras. Basically going over the manuals, but no course I really sell
Also depends on ur computer
Thanks!
No problem! Thanks for becoming a channel member! Are you on our discord yet? Let me know if you are or want to be and I'll add you into our members only discord chat
Also, appreciate the super thanks!
Super lost when it comes to these two cameras. I got the 6K pro and the image is absolutely crazy. Almost hard to look at 4k resolution once you see all the footage from the 6k sensor - My only nuance is whether to step down to 4k and get the Sirui anamorphics instead of using the 6k - I own many EF lenses so getting a speedbooster if need be isnt a big deal. Just not sure whether its worth getting the 4k JUST so I can use the budget anamorphics, and yes, i realize theyre lacking when it comes to true anamorphics, but nonetheless, are still great lenses. My biggest back and forth I guess would be the budget/ commercial client limitations with the 4K. Idk if I'd feel comfortable charging 10K/ for a 60 sec video that's shot on a BMPCC 4k, vs, not necessarily having that issue when it comes to the 6k. Any thoughts?
I think a client pays you for your work and creative vision and not which camera you use. At the same time, I do understand the advantage of impressing a client with big cameras. You could always get an URSA G2 Broadcast since it has that 6k pro sensor in it and is in the URSA form. I've charged far north of 10k on projects with the pocket 4k tbh. It's a great camera and still produces an excellent image. I would bump that Bitrate up for higher end clients though, to me that is more of the difference maker than 6k vs 4k
@@FrameVoyager No i 100% agree with that as well and have always pushed for that argument as well as maximizing equipment. I guess for me, I work in the music industry with big labels and the fashion industry - If I were to show up to a 20K music video shoot with a BMPCC 4k, resolution wise, most of those videos are being shot with at a minimum, a RED or ARRI of which, I think the BMPCC 6k could run with. As far as the creative and the story, of course the 4K will do exactly the same, but resolution/ picture wise I don't see anyone around me as directors shooting with a BMPCC 4k on productions like that I guess is my dilemma when the person budgeting the project has more knowledge of equipment then lets say a commercial business that knows nothing of the equipment world.
Totally understand that! I would go with the camera you think will help you get more jobs then. Sometimes it's dumb, but having certain gear can help you get those jobs especially in the industry you are in. It's a tough one and one that's funny when it comes from an industry that always is telling you you don't need high end gear to be good or make good videos but all they accept is people with just that lol
@@FrameVoyager Yeah exactly lol I've never ever been a gearhead but it can be limiting depending on location/ industry (Im in LA) which is unfortunate but a reality. Either way, appreciate you taking the time for a thoughtful response. Been loving watching all your content for BMPCC.
@@mikeseager8768 damn 10k for a 60 second video is good shit muh boi. We should be watching and learning from you on the business side lol.
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Ты вывел обзор камер на новый уровень!))
Love the creative approach to boring camera comparisons. Very well done.
But …. As a P4K user I feel like you missed a huge huge part of the advantage of the P4K when paired with a MB Speedbooster getting you down to a 1.22 crop, more light, and an EF mount … but still have the MFT option. I know that’s not comparing apples to apples but who never uses a P4K without a speed booster?
Appreciate it! And yeah, probably should have gone more in depth on that part but I did mention that the MFT system is great for adapting to other lens mount systems including that you can use EF mounts on it. But good point!
@@FrameVoyager yeah man just feel the speed booster is a game changer (the P4k is a 1.9 crop natively FYI). It's why I've never justified the downsides to the 6K/Pro (physical size, file size, 1.55 crop). But yeah they are both awesome and we live in a fortunate time!
@@Malick333 it really is and I really should more into it myself. I typically only use MFT lenses with p4k most of the time. I should start testing more stuff out so I just don't love talking about it if I haven't done it a lot myself!
@@FrameVoyager it's fine man, that's why we are all a community of helping each other learn!
100%
Have you used any speed booster on bmpcc 4k ?? I have purchased viltrox it is very hazy
Yeah I've never had a "great" experience using viltrox adapters. Artifacting and yeah that hazy look to it at time
@@FrameVoyager thn what should i do to get the best image out of my bmpcc ??
@@FrameVoyager ??
@@durrabkhalil3249 sorry! Missed this! Going with a metabones has always been a better quality option imo
@@FrameVoyager alright but what is the best option, with or without speed booster wht do you prefer?
Makes me wish I hadn't downgraded from the 4K to the 6K Pro now...
😂 they both really are good cameras but that 4k paired with the meta bones is still a force
I would just say one thing , bmpcc4k has a special attack "speed booster"!
4k because its more versatile being able to use speed boosters/adapters ..... and has more of a film look
Totally agree!
I think you are wrong ..... technically, the F stop doesnt change like the focal length, for m43 lenses
Yeah, I should have approached this like I did with the focal length. So the focal length doesn't change on the MFT but the FoV does. It's still the same focal length it's just different if than if you'd had it on a full frame. And the same could be said about the F-stop, it doesn't change but the depth of field is different than the same f stop would be on a full frame sensor. So in turn, yes. F 2.8 is a F 2.8 on an MFT but it has less DoF than a F2.8 on a full frame sensor. I'm actually working on a video diving into this
Wow. You nailed it. 🤯
For me it's the bmpcc 4K, price and quality wise. 4K takes over the world a lot slower than full hd did. So 4K will be here for years to come. 😉
I know you're a blackmagic shooter but I would love to hear your thoughts on the GH5 or the upcoming GH6.
Keep 'em coming John. That's incredible! 🤩
Yeah, the BMPCC4K to me is the best camera BMD has made so far based on so many factors. Price, design, usability, etc.
But appreciate it! Hope it was worth the build up! haha
quisiera una 4k super 35 sin montura EF
¡Eso estaría bien! ¿Quizás en la nueva actualización de octubre?
Pocket 6k pro
P4k wins for me cuz stuff is much easier to adapt and the price is very attractive
Yeah, I love my p4k's
Sorry!
And you know I follow your Channel. 2 minutes of intro!!??
But, thank you.
😂 didn't like the Blackmagic anime bit?
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Do you think they'll release a 4K Pro with better battery life and a flippy screen?
Potentially, but kind of doubt it. Feels like they're moving in with the 6k pro and I'd imagine something else to replace the G2 and Ursa12k here in the fall
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once again, love your vids but the audio is garbage, the levels of your backing music to dialogue whether it's you or the animated cameras is just awful, it's literally got me diving for the volume control
Yeah this is an older video and I think I've sorted out some of the early audio issues I had. It has a lot to do with how UA-cam messes with it after you upload. Notes though 👍