We Might be Getting a New Ham Radio Band and You Can Help!!!
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
- ►Efforts are underway in the Amateur Radio community to grant U.S. Hams privileges' in the 8 meter band. Let's talk about the initiative and how you can help make it a reality. You don't even need to be a licensed ham to help out!
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The high seas marine bands are empty due to ships on the high seas are using satellite phones and GPS. 4, 6, 8, 12 MHz are commercial maritime bands and almost all the marine coastal stations have went off the air because they cannot compete with satellite. I wish someone would look into these bands because they are hardly if ever used anymore except for a very few third world countries. I would be happy to use these frequencies on a secondary basis.
Oh, cool! So often, I hear we’re in danger of losing spectrum, so it’s nice to hear we might gain a band.
I agree...it's nice to have something positive to talk about for a change
Worried about losing spectrum? How often are you on the 220 band? How about 6 meters? If you're worried about losing spectrum you should probably get on those two bands. I too am concerned about losing spectrum, so I put a 220 repeater on the air in Phoenix, AZ in 2020, and I've long been on 6 meter FM, and 6 meter SSB when it is open. I'm doing my part.
That will be nice👍💯
Yeah all the contesters took over the bands and they think they have more authority over a regular ham and splatter like crazy🤨
@@USAVET11B20 any info on homemade duplexer for 220? Would love to hear about your repeater.
Thank you. Without your video, I would have no idea 8m was experimental and I am really going to try to decode some packets and report them as well!
Awesome! I hope you are able to decode some.
I have always loved six meters so, eight meters sounds great. And all Public Service wants higher bands, it’s wide open in many areas. I have been following this project for a while, I hope it happens.
Thanks for your research and work putting this video together. I will check this band for sure.
Awesome!
Good to hear from you, Rob! Thanks for sharing! Always love an opportunity to play with a new band! This is exciting. Happy Thanksgiving to you guys.
Happy Thanksgiving Marky!
I wish it would happen. But, with the very near neighbouring band of 6 meters, the powers that be will just say that amateur operators can just use 6 meters instead. I am referencing Canadian band usage. Your region may vary. I scan from 25Mhz to 75Mhz and hear activity mainly on 27Mhz to 29.9Mhz, 49Mhz, and that is it. There is a very rare, occasional, beacon I have heard on 70.45Mhz. I mainly hear much, except on 2 metres, 70 centimetres, GMRS/FRS, 49Mhz, 10 meters, 11 meter CB, 15 meters and below. 80 meters and 40 meters seem to be the most vulgar of all the bands but quite entertaining to listen.
Thanks for the info! Eight meters would be a very interesting band. I hope we can get it added as a ham band.
Me too!
Interesting, and with being a like mixture of 10 & 6 meters I would definitely be interested. Thanks Rob👍
I guess we'll have to see what happens as time goes on...this would be a good band to mess around with
They should open it up for hams! and the 4 meter band too. we are paying good money for our license now.
Thanks for the video. I was not aware, well done!
Glad you liked this!
Just learned this from your video, sounds like fun!!
I rather see more people continue to get on 6 meters as opposed to spreading out less people across more bands. Not enough people using 6m and 2m . I'd rather see things that promote people getting back on 6 and 2 .
Hmmm...good point.
Pacific NW, 2M is jammed full….
I don't understand why you say 2 because 2m is historically the *most* used amateur band. ?
Experimentation, the Backbone of Amateur Radio...
Ide love to see more local 6m activity. It's supposed to be good for local coverage. Low band.
During the 1950s, in the UK we had TV Channel 1 on 41.25 sound and 45 MHz vision. USA did not use Channel 1 so we never had USA interference but we did get interference from European mainland due to tropo. There was also occasional very strong Es interference from a NATO ionospheric scatter station in Iceland. During flat conditions we could see traces of TV signals in Band I from about 150 miles. Before WW2 the TV signals from London on Channel 1 were occasionally received in the USA and in South Africa during HF openings. Remember that the noise level is higher than on 50 MHz, but the ignition interference we used to suffer should not be so bad. I also remember that Sputnik 1 transmitted on 40.005 MHz and the UK TV receivers could hear it.
Interesting! I didn't know Sputnik used that frequency
@@SevenFortyOne Sputnik 1 used both 20.005 and 40.005 MHz.
@@SevenFortyOne It's mentioned on the Wikipedia page you have in your video! 🙂
Good timing too, with the improving conditions
I have heard activity on 8 mtrs here in the UK during the Es season in the summer. WSPR and PI4 modes were used. It is by special permit only at present.
This would be a really interesting band in the summertime. Let's hope it happens!
Greetings from 2024. Happy new year. Listen to 10 meters! It is very active! I monitor digital, AM, SSB, FM, and CW. Also, listen to 26.965Mhz to 27.405Mhz CB radio and 27.60125 Mhz to 27.99125 Mhz FM. You will not believe how busy it has been and how propagation has really changed with the new solar cycle's arrival. It is not even at its apex. 6 meters is still extremely dead. It would seem that 8 meters would be dead, as well. Though my radio transmit abilities are limited, I do have a transceiver that does function from 40Mhz to 49.995Mhz AM and FM. It was part of a Forestry office. I bought it for $1 at an auction.
Thanks Rob, great information. I may go sign up myself to try and obtain privileges.
I'm hearing most applicants are being denied right now. Let me know if you end up getting approved
First time watching you video and I want to start by saying good job and I enjoyed your video. I also wanted to add I see the picture in the background of the Nova and I too have a 62' . I'll be watching more. KJ7UTW. 73'S
Glad you liked this! The nova isn't mine, I saw it on the side of the road in NH and decided it needed to be photographed. Unfortunately, I think it might be too far gone to save.
Thank you for a great, informative video.
As near as I can tell it's a sweet spot for meteor scatter communications but not much else. In fact the FCC set aside a couple of frequencies in the mid-40 MHz band for commercial meteor scatter communications in Alaska only where the distances are too great for higher VHF frequencies and too short for reliable HF during the long days of summer that far north. Many years ago I maintained some paging transmitters at 43.22 MHz. The pagers had to have long wire antennas dangling from them while attached to your belt to work more than a couple of miles from the transmitters which were running 350 watts. Mobile use will require antennas that are much larger than for 2 meters to be effective and will be much more affected by the size and shape of the ground plane which is the car body. So far I'm just not very excited about it. I would rather see more extensive use of 10 and 6 meters. But if it's there, I will probably try it out. There are a number of Low-band commercial 2way FM radios available very cheap such as the low-band Motorola Maxtracs which would make experimenting on the band cheap and easy and my MARS modified hf radios will do SSB and AM on those frequencies.
Nice band for hilly terrain if we get it. California used frequencies close to this for that reason. When they "upgraded" to trunking on higher bands, they lost a lot of their communications capability.
Same here in Eastern CT. 42MHz was great for the rolling hills we have here. But the state went to a digital 800MHz system a few years ago and it seems to be working for them
MATH(s) ! 🙂 Thanks for the update regarding possible US hams
I'm trying to figure out that standard operating beacons for 8 meters should be in cw mode as are other beacons operate. FT transmissions are supposedly used for unreliable contacts. It seems like a standard A1A identifier at either 5 watts would give a better indication of how propagation works on 8 meters. Digital signals are not a good indication on how it works unless the band will be exclusive for FT transmissions. A simple unmodulated cw carrier gives you the call and an analog signal that could be compared to any other mode. I would like to see 8 meters come into the Amateur Service but I would be more excited in expansion of the 60 meter band and or the 30 meter band.
I like to see us get a little bit more on 60 meter band. 8 meters would be good
Now that I think about it, I already have some 8m equipment! I use it for commercial land mobile in the 43MHz range.
If we can get it, for all means try to get. I remember in Germany we used to have cordless studio microphones and radio control for model airplanes only close to this frequency. CW transmitting should not be too difficult after all. Cheers Peter DL2FBA
I agree
interesting thanks for sharing.
I hope we get it sounds great thankyou for the information
Since its between 6 & 10 meter, I assume it could be fully available to HAM Technician licensee's. Or at least a useful portion of it (at least as much or more than the slice they give us for 10 meter), and that's a good thing. It would give Tech's a little more real estate near the HF zone, though technically 8-meter is still in the low end of VHF, it should benefit from some of the characteristics of HF, similar to 6 meter (the magic band). I have yet to work on HF but after a chat on my local repeater with some older HAMs this afternoon I am pretty excited to get to work on some HF (limited to my Tech privelages of course), even before I get my General license. I was going to wait, but if I can pick up an FT-891 on sale after Thanksgiving, I may just get to work sooner than later on HF bands. And I can always just listen to the other bands as well (20 & 40 for instance) as anyone can. Now I just need to get something up in the air that can talk 10-meter. I'm not so much worried about 6 meter. It is a little too "magic" for me and from what I have read it sounds too unpredictable. So between 10m and POTA (after I get my General license), I think 10, 20, and 40 will most likely be my fun-zones.
6 meters is a great local rag chew band when it's not open. I use it all the time. Good luck getting your general!
If you have a transceiver, 10 meters, 11 meter CB, and 6 meters are available for you to try out right now. I do not know much about the radio privileges afforded to your class of license. I am assuming they are restricted. But all nations that allow use of amateur bands allow 10 meters, 11 meter CB, and 6 meters. I, myself, have been listening to everything from 100Khz to 75Mhz, on all modes. 80 and 40 meter bands are quite colourful, especially 80 meters. They are likely the most, "colourful," bands out of any amateur civilian radio service. Beware of what you may hear and how you may be treated. It makes 1980s CB radio sound absolutely tame. But, I am sure you can transmit on the three bands I mentioned if your amateur radio license is only the entry level license. For 11 meter CB, most nations do not even require a license. I have heard tremendous distances on just the humble 11 meter CB. Transmit on 10 meters! I will be listening.
I would play around on 8 meters sure but only if one of my current radios could be used. I dont know if it would even be possible but how cool would it be if it was just a simple firmware update for the 7300.
It almost sounds like conditions are better than they are on 6 & 10m. Also since this is half of 4m it might clear the way for the 4m band as well. The smaller antennas than on HF frequencies make this attractive as well.
Jeez we were all on to get 5mhz in ZL, we live in hope. We might be able to use those TV antennas we took down when we went digital
will propagation between europe and ZL be better on 60m ?
Sounds awesome!
This sounds very interesting.
Good stuff, Thanks
Well we all know what getting a new band means. We all get a pass from our XYL's to get a new rig. :) Keeping an eye on this would be cool.
A new rig? Well, if you insist.
You don't know MY XYL!!! Of course all my equipment is"junk" to her...hardly ever TALK to anyone, 10 meters is dead unless there's a contest going on (and then, good luck getting a word in edgewise!)
Doubt any manufacturers will make one. Maybe a kit? Or, how well can you homebrew?
As a long - time avid 6 meter operator, I would CERTAINLY consider getting on 8 meters if we are granted transmit priveledges! 🙂- I'll be sure to check out your links as to what's involved in getting an experimental license!
73,
Tom WA1LBK
I used to use 6m a lot too. There is a nightly rag-chew group on 50.165 here in eastern CT that meets at about 6:45pm or so. I just have been too tied up with work to join in. I also love working 6 meter opening when they happen.
I hear an operator calling out about once a week on 50.125Mhz USB, usually on Monday and before 11:00. I have never heard him after 12:00. I have never heard him get a response. He will call and listen for about 30 minutes on and off. There is also an FM repeater on 52.1Mhz FM. There, I hear conversations about two times a month. I have never heard the legendary long distance contacts that 6 meters is supposed to provide its users. I consider it a large band. But, it has almost no use. It is like an enormous desert. I think the world wide web has damaged the interest in radio propagation. Without a license or expensive equipment, one can now communicate around the planet. To use the radio spectrum, one needs a license, a significant investment in equipment, knowledge (something people refuse to obtain now), effort (something people refuse to make today) and the right conditions. I am extremely interested in radio propagation and communication without a network. That is why I am such an avid listener.
Very interesting report and I hope we get privileges on 40 meters.
A number of years ago, there was a possibility our 40 meter band might get an expansion from 6.9 to 7.0 MHz. In face when Ten Tec designed the Omni 6 they designed it to transmit in this range but I never heard anything else about this. Unfortunately, there is now some pirate, CB activity in what could have been a legal Ham segment. This would have been a big boost to a very nice part of or HF privileges. Anyone know anything about this??
What kind of antenna did you use? Do you know what kind of power level and antenna the transmitting stations use?
I'm actually using my fan hf fan dipole for receiving. There may be info in the links about transmit power of the experimental stations
how's propagation in 8m ? is there intercontinental QSO possible on 8m ? i thought 8m propagation will be like a mix of the propagation of 6m & 10m, as in middle of both bands, but the propagation of 6m is much different than on 10m. so i wonder how 8m propagation will be, i'm very curious to hear some dx signals on 8m. Will there be any beacons in 8m ? i want to monitor the 8m beacons for dx propagation.
by th way, i think they should increase the width of the ham bands in europe. 80m ends for european hams at 3800KHz, in the evening it gets overcrowded in 80m. if they would increase the border of the 80m ham band up to 4000KHz in europe, that would do great.
This is what is being studied right now. We'll have to keep an eye on the results to see what the propagation will be like
I'd have to mod my IC7100 to get there, and then it would all be up to my antenna tuner, which might tune it or might not. But probably not.
I could certainly listen with the tuner bypassed, though.
I'm not sure modding a regular ham rig for X-mit would work properly without retuning filters and such. But you are right - you could listen without any issues.
I have been experimenting on 49Mhz for decades. With only about a 500 milliwatt RadioShack walkie talkie to begin, which is far above what the legal 100mW amount it is supposed to be, I would take it apart modulate a 2 kilohertz tone into a homemade Yagi antenna. I was achieving distances of over 3 kilometres. Then, I got an early cordless phone from an attic, that was transmitting at a whopping 2.1 watts! That was tremendously higher than the legal 100mW limit. With that, I was able to receive the tone at 6 kilometres on the RadioShack walkie talkie connected to just a magnetic CB radio antenna. When my antenna experimentation accomplished 10+ kilometres, although in a very thin channel with a Yagi connected to the walkie talkie and another on the cordless phone, I decided to start sending simple binary data, on pulse to turn on a light, two pulses to turn off the light at around 8 kilometres. It is likely all these experiments were illegal since they were all above 100milliwats. It started a long love for the radio hobby. One day, I may get an amateur radio license. But, alas, my conversational abilities are limited, almost crippled. Thus, I remain an unlicensed hobbyist experimenting in the public bands, 27Mhz, 49Mhz, 151Mhz, 462Mhz, 902Mhz. All of them have amateur radio proximities, 10 metres, 6 metres, 2 metres, 70 centimetres, 33 centimetres. The 33 centimetre band I use is from a VTech walkie talkie.
You should look into the digital modes. You can talk keyboard to keyboard. I bet you'd have fun with that
@@SevenFortyOne I have not been doing the 49Mhz experimentation in many years. I have no easily accessible 49Mhz cordless phones, RadioShack walkie talkies, motorcycle helmet com headsets, wireless microphones, and room monitors. I still remember everything I did with just the tiny bit of junk I had. I have been dying to try some experimentation with the GMRS/FRS transceivers that are everywhere. I want to send data and receive data. Or maybe repeat 462.6Mhz to 27.195Mhz, or even send data and repeat across those frequencies. But all of that is considered illegal, where I reside. Although, the bands, in question, are completely license free and open to the public, except GMRS. GMRS, although free here, requires a license to use. It is the same as FRS with different power restrictions. I have had so many ideas that I can not play with because of CRCT and ISED laws. I really see no harm in repeating an FRS signal to CB radio, or send data over FRS.
After years of losing frequencies it would be nice to have a new band. 40Mhz would be a great FT-8 band and nice for a new band for dxing and mobiles more range
What frequencies have we lost?
I've got an HF radio with open transmit up to the 6 meter band, so if we got privileges here I would probably make use of it.
Due to my schedule and work load, I don't have the ability to quickly hop on and start uploading reception logs at this time...
Same here...it's hard for me to find the time to mess around with radio lately too
8 meter band would be great to addition to our ham bands.
Nice
Yep.. this really interests me and thank you. A potential meteor scatter band.....? I will be pursuing an experimental FCC license.
Awesome!
Nice video. Other than providing signal reports and obtaining our own experimental licenses are there other ways we can support this effort? BTW is that your Chevy II?
I'm not sure if there is another way to support...I'll have to look into that. No, not my Chevy. I saw that on the side of the road in NH and had to get a picture.
@@SevenFortyOne Thanks for the reply! I'll be watching to see how the band experiment progresses. I was thinking that the Chevy II might have been an upcoming project!
Sounds interesting for sure!
If we get it, I hope it doesn't wind up sounding like 80 and 40 meter bands.
Thanks Rob for the update. I just hope Pirates don't find out and start jamming hams if we get it. K5EYS
I am interested in 8M. Any frequency addition to our allocations is very welcome. I use 6M on a regular basis, and would be curious about what propagation conditions exist on 8M as compared to Six or 10 Meters. The U.K. has privelages on 4M that I would like to explore, too. The more frequency spectrum we have, the more use our service has. The "Ham Radio" is often called a Hobby - thus ignoring the utility and public service we provide and I would like to see that changed. The MARS Program gave us a chance to work with the military, and that was a great experience because I was completely involved for over 23 years (Navy MARS until the Navy abandoned us on 9/15/15). But, any increase in our frequencies allocated would be very welcome. 73 de W4FJF.
As I see this as good news but I would love to see more people use 2 meters. I am a general class but I still love 2 meters
I agree - I'm an extra but still use 2m repeaters to talk with my local buddies. But I'm all for more spectrum to use too...
Where I am, 2m is just about the only thing most people use. We got a lot of new hams after the floods in 2013 in Colorado, and most of them only got their technician license, and only use 2m stuff. We built our own 2m repeater for the area too. 70cm isn't as popular as it doesn't propagate through the canyons as well. But I'm into trying out all kinds of different stuff myself, now that I have my Extra (had Advanced for a long time, finally finished).
Interesting. Any new bands has to be good. It could encourage people to build stuff, a dipole is easy enough.
I started in radio building an xtal a.m. tx and super regen rx. When we got 60m I built a one valve xtal tx, about 2 Watts out, later repaired a 77 year old Wireless 19 Set on low h.t. so again about 2.5 Watts.
G4GHB
Experimenting is always good
I 've heard here in Norway several FT8 stations on 40.680MHz from all around the world..Hope we get thew band...73's LA3EQ
That is very interesting. How wide will the band be?
We don't know yet
I have a IC7300. If we get it, would I be able to use it without getting a new radio? I think I can do the reporter. The IC7300 will receive that. With the MARS MOD I could transmit on it. But not sure if the TX filters will keep it clean. They may not be turned for that frequency. Maybe ICON will do a update if we get it!
I'm not sure what the circuitry in the 7300 looks like so I don't know about transmit but you shouldn't have any trouble receiving there now
@@SevenFortyOne I don't know much about what is in the magic box, but there must be filters for the different bands to block out unwanted trash. Every transmitter I have seen has them.
My 7100 can transmit on 40mhz. Relax, OMs, it was into a dummy load.
@@donaldsmith3048 The 7300 works well on RX at 40MHz but is pretty nasty on TX and requires additional external filtering to reduce the harmonics. Probably want to fit one of Icom's filtered power cables too.
So my radio doesnt allow me to transmit on 40mhz so how would we do that? buy a new radio that does?
Yes, you may need to buy,build or modify a radio that will work here if we get approved to use this spectrum
Yes I would set up on 40 meters
I’m so glad as in the uk we get 8m from Jan 1st
Interesting!
@@SevenFortyOne We don't, watch out for trolls.
Yes i would like to be involved on 8 meters. I from time to time do 6 meters as well
It would be cool if we could use the 4-meter band they have in Europe.
I’d love to try 8 meters. I wonder what the best easy access rig would be.
Some are saying the icom 7100. For receiving, the sdrplay radios can't be beat
Given the experimental nature of ham radio it would be beneficial for the FCC to carve out some spectrum for us everywhere.
I'm afraid they don't see it that way most of the time. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't keep trying to get spectrum....
The high seas marine bands are empty due to ships on the high seas are using satellite phones and GPS. 4, 6, 8, 12 MHz are commercial maritime bands and almost all the marine coastal stations have went off the air because they cannot compete with satellite. I wish someone would look into these bands because they are hardly if ever used anymore except for a very few third world countries. I would be happy to use these frequencies on a secondary basis.
Another Phone band would be great!
I agree Mark, but not sure we'll get enough spectrum here for phone. We'll see I guess....any little bit would be appreciated...
Another band would be awesome!
Agreed!
Interesting information, not something we have here in the UK, I'm almost sure it is part of the military allocation. Still, if the US gets an allocation, it strengthens the case for UK hams.
Err, actually we do have here in the UK courtesy of an Ofcom I + T licence de G7PUV/G9PUV.
Hello. Any new bands would be good. It would be nice if we had 4 meters in the US
@@johnlynch7834 There are 2 experimental stations...
WE9XFT in Virginia, transmitting CW on 70.005 MHz.
The beacon continues to be operated under the Experimental radio service callsign WG2XPN and is active as of March 2021.
@@AceBlaggard What are you using for 8M/40MHz.? Transverter or Modified Radio
@@4X4-RADIO It's a widebanded Icom 706GMK2, with the Icom supplied power supply filter it's very clean on 40MHz.
Iam INTERESTED yes 👍💯⚡⚛
Yes , I would enjoy 8 meters, give privileges to Tech Class !!
Kool
Just curious... Who is the primary users on 8 meters right now?
I believe it's allocated to government use now
Need try made regenerative receiver for new band :D
Would I use it? Sure thing. I use both 10 and 6 meters for FT8 already, so I guess it'll just be a firmware update to my 7300 to allow it to work there and update the frequencies in WSJT-X?
This is still just notional at this point. I don't know if it's as simple as a firmware update or not...the hardware might not support these frequencies...
@@SevenFortyOne Of course it's still just a proposal. The Icom 7300 is an SDR radio and is controlled via Firmware. You can set the band edges where you wish already on it. Adding a new band on a modern radio is a simple programming task, doing it on an older 'boat anchor', may not be so easy if it does not perhaps have a crystal that will let it work in the new bands...
Different markets have different releases of Firmware to unlock different frequencies/bands. I also have a Xiegu G90. It is exactly the same. Also note the "Mars Mod" where you remove one component from the main board and it will Xmit on ALL frequencies. As a General or Extra level HAM you are EXPECTED to act responsibly by the ARRL and FCC to stay within the bands if you have the mod done on the radio. Same if you have a European radio in the USA. The bands don't exactly overlap from different markets. This is why on the Icom 7300 you can change band edges...
One would most likely need filtering on the TX of the radio to stay compliant with spurious emissions. That filtering probably does not exist on existing consumer HF radios.
@@rq6884 Maybe so. I'd have thought most modern, big brand (Yaesu, Icom, etc) brands would be compliant whatever, but hey-ho, I don't design for them, so maybe they'll be wildly bad? Fun times if so. 😄
Firmware updates are one thing, whether a widebanded amateur rig is operating well 'out of band' is something else entirely. The 7300 is definitely not a radio I would want to use on 8M.
There is a ton of low band VHF commercial gear that will cover this right out of the box for cheap on eBay.
Very True!
Depending on how much spectrum we can get would depend on whether wideband FM low band commercial gear should be allowed. The KU3N petition set a band plan that only looks at 40.51~40.70 MHz and there were some reasons why only that slice of spectrum was chosen. Of course, this does not mean we are tied to that. If the FCC and NTIA can work out something where we can get spectrum above 40.7, we could see some simplex FM. But the priority is first for weak signal and digital modes and if there is any surplus spectrum, we could see 20 kHz FM on 40.7~41.0 would be consistent with the IARU Region 1 bandplan.
i was hoping they were going to give us the 4meter band already
I don't think so, because of TV stations there.
Good information ! N4TDM
I don't about this, if I'm not mistaken, seldom are on 220MHz. now a days. Kindly enlighten me.....
Not very many people want to live in Alaska but those that do seem to like it. I say open 8 meters and let those who want to use it have fun with it.
I would like 11 meters be expanded for CBers ( be nice I know I'll get blasted by ham operators )
No argument from me! I agree
All that old vhf low band equipment that won't go up into 50mhz may have some use after all.
8 meters is always silent. when im home, ill fire the 891 up to see if i can hear them. my QTH isnt too far from the wm2xan station.
The propagation is interesting. I heard them pretty regularly during late summer but then nothing for a month or two. Lately, I've been hearing them once in a while but not regularly.
I guess more band space is opening up as they cram everything onto uhf and higher with trunking and digital communication systems.
Yes, hopefully we get some before someone else takes it
I cut my radio teeth on lowband VHF in the 1980's and something like this could be likened to a homecoming of sorts!
Thus far, all this has been regarding digital modes. What about AM/FM/SSB/CW ? A 6m transverter would be a cinch to modify, just a little tweaking of the L-C circuits & a crystal.
It depends on how much spectrum we get
We got 4 meter 70 MHz in Norway. You got that in America?
No, we don't have 4m here
How much spectrum are we talking?
If there's enough spectrum for fm in addition to ssb and cw, that could bring a lot of old low band radios back to life in the mid range split that were useless before.
Probably not much...
Not sure about the US experimental stations but given they're on both 40.662 and 40.680 it suggests they've got what most of have which is the use of the ISM band so about 40kHz.
Little activity on any band
But
How about additional 50 or 100 khz on 30 m !
That would be nice too...but I'll take what I can get
Looks like i gotta bust out and install my Kenwood TK-690 for ham and listening to CHP :)
Go for it! I wish the CT state police still used 42MHz so I could listen on my old radio shack scanner...
@@SevenFortyOne California Highway Patrol believe it or not uses vhf lowband,UHF and 700Mhz. when in the car they transmit on lowband and when they step out of the car they hit the VRS switch and talk on 700Mhz on their APX8000. I scan their 700mhz channels to know when there is a chippy near by.. thats my "radar detector" lmao
Pretty cool! I’ll have to listen around! 73 de K2CJB
There is always something interesting going on in Ham Radio someplace!
More bands = good news
Agree!
Will Eight meters only be open on contest weekends like ten?
Yeah, good point...I hope not
10m was open all day today. Nov 18. Been open for the past couple months, daily. Not sure why everyone is saying 10m is dead. It most definitely isn’t.
I think Doug is saying people tend not to use 10 even when it is open
That would be up to the ARRL and the IARU to assure that contest rules are written to exclude this spectrum from contest operation.
8meter what ? There is so much to learn and remember.
The amount of things in ham radio can get overwhelming...
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@@DARTHDANSAN welcome to Ham Radio! Have fun exploring the hobby!
Hmm... Listening for 8M beacons might be a good early warning for possible 6M openings
It would be far more sensible to give access to bands that other countries actually use. For example how about the 4 meter band, 70 megahertz, which is used in many other countries rather than just five. With just five other countries currently allocating the 8 m band picking the eight meter band would not be a wise choice but unfortunately just 10 years ago the FCC denied efforts to pick up the four meter band.
Would rather have access to the 4m band they have in Europe.
Is there going to be any kind of voice privilege or is it going to be all packet
I'm not sure. I think it depends on how much spectrum ends up being allocated if the FCC decides to grant privileges
All of 6m is open to Techs!
Yup, it is!
More countries in the EU and UK have 4M freqs. A better idea?
Maybe, maybe not...hard to say
I'd be interested in 8m, if it's NOT going to be just another data only band.
Depends how much spectrum we get, if we get any here...
I have a SDR Play RSP DX,
I got the mod on my yaesu 991a I will see if it works on 8
Keep in mind you can't transmit there...only listen for now.
We need a new band the SPECTRUM is getting crowded 👍💯⚡⚛
Time will tell i guess.... 😎