Micro Sized 500 watt amp? Sundown SAM-500D Amp Dyno and More
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
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Sundown Audio has become very popular among the SPL guys, but what about those who want to upgrade their factory system or hide a small amp in the center console? Today we take a closer look at the SAM-500D, an ultra-compact 500W monoblock amp. How does it perform on the Amp Dyno? What about powering a 12" DVC subwoofer? We'll try both and stick around to see what's inside this mini beast of an amp...
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On sundown after dark jacob fuller explains that the board is coated and are reccomended for marine use as well
In your opinion does this amp exert more cone control than the Kenwood kac-3001 even though the Sundown has more power?
Can you do a video on the 6k nemesis please
Big D, great vid as always! Have u ever done a video on your current automobile system? Think that would be cool to see what u bump in your daily! Or if u have a show car!
Expensive for CANADUHIANS. Almost CAD 362.29
Back in the 90s if I showed that to someone and said it will 500 rms. I would have got locked up in the nut house
Or you would be at the fleamarket
bondovwvw, truth!!!
wild
Not too shabby!! I love these amps for all the no room vehicles, got kids, little thumper system amp for your ol lady's ride, old school hotrods.... they got my thumbs up 👍
When you go below rated, my heart stops! That's basically a $200 bill that you're waving through flames. Thanks for checking this tiny amount out. Amazing power from a VHS cassette!
Time to sound deaden your garage door Big D!
This going to make a great motorcycle amp.
hell yea
For a subwoofer? Where do u put the sub?
You should give this away. To someone.... hint hint. I could definitely use one like this for my car build.
Ask Sundown 🤷♂️
I watch your videos for a lot of reasons but I love it when you test them below their rated ohm loads. You're the best!
Tryna skress dem jokers!
Mini amps ftw! Great video as always
I think I like the Skar offering better. The SK-M5001D is a little bigger but the specs are identical almost. I just like how the power inputs and speaker inputs are separated further apart. And a Subsonic filter, for $120.
Made in the good ole USA also Skar is the bomb!
I have a SK-M5001D and it gets super hot to the point to where you can't touch it , do you have this problem too?
I didn't have high hopes for this amp, but I'm impressed. The board is very nice.
Insulated garage door panels are pretty cheap at home depot and easy to install. Thanks for another great video!
Big D, I got that dj magic mike cd. It’s what I used in the 90’s
Nothing like Mike
Williston Audio Labs Right on!! I had a 90 s10 blazer, runnin 2 ppi 15”s, sealed box, on a ppi pc21400 amp. Mike helped me hit 148.1 dB at the dash
Impressive stable little amp. 👍
Can u dyno the skar audio sk-m5001d 500 watt amp plz its just like that sundown but $119
Completely different amps and actual physical dimensions
Pros:
Size
Protruding knobs
Circuitry density
Decent power
Simple design
Bass knob.
Cons:
Price
Internal fuses?
Would be nice to see 4g power inputs
Yeah those internal fuses would be a pain to get to
this and a couple of lcs subs would probably make a sweet budget combo 😎👍🏻
Woww. These little amps are bursting onto the scene like import 4 cyls destroying v8s.
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There's no replacement for displacement, sorry
@@rogerthat2538 that doesnt hold up in 2020 son
Sony, audiopipe, and a few others have been doing rated mini amps since 2010. These are great amps but far from bursting into the scene. Big d has quite a few vids of mini amps from 7 years ago. 🤷♂️
@@c130aviator it was a figure of speech. I know mini amps existed before this. Just like imports have existed but until only recently 10 years or so imports have been throwing down... You know what nevermind I knew someone in the UA-cam comments was going to take this shit way to serious.
Time to get some Sound Deadening on your door :)
Maybe a good test to compare the multiude of products out there.
Great videos, brings back my youth!
This is SO true! I don't want to weigh down my door, need to research options. I know people insulate their garage doors, but adding sound deadening material is going to add a lot of weight and will probably need spring adjusted and re-balanced I'd assume?
Kids don't know how good they got it, I remember 500w costing at least twice that...
Yes and MUCH bigger
150w per channel was a monster and there were no mono block amps. How did we survive?
@@monster-pq7ln You had mono blocks in the late 80s.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt they were not very common
Hell remember when $1/w was cheap....
Impressive for a little beast. I feel like buying one to put it inside my G-scale train car for horn sound.
Do it!
Very impressive!! look like that the internal switching transformer core is saturating when you try it at 0.8 and 0.67ohms, which reveal why it continu to drain more current but stop increasing wattage output..
Just what the doctor ordered 😊
Awe how cute. Baby Sundown Audio. 😀👍
BANGIN'!
I know you like DJ Magic Mike... But no Techmaster PEB? Lol. Thanks for making the video..
Great video Big D! Real hot product right here. Thanks for the indepth reveiw and tear down with the experiment at the end.
These micro amps are catching on more and more for powersports and other installs. We're building portable Bluetooth boom boxes with them and rechargable lithium banks, customers are loving them.
Sweet!
It'd be nice to have that in a 4-channel as well. Looks like a good lil amp for a door install. !
There is so much more to an amp aside power output! Sensitivity, build and sound quality, efficiency are just a few.
I saw one of these amps in my local car audio shop called (The Pawn Shop) in Athens Georgia. I thought it was pretty cool. Being from Sundown I figured it would do rated power.
That is absolute insanity for the size. Big D, I bet you remember those small paperback-size Sony amps that put out 20 per back years ago. They were clean and popular for running tweeters in component setups.
This thing is barely bigger but puts out 40 times that! I can't help but be impressed even if it is a little spendy.
Great test!
David Oliver I still love those little gold Sony amps. They were clean amps.
I can see these being popular for truck installations. I've had to get inventive with the amp mounting in some trucks, especially multiple amps.
Awesome. Thanks for doing what you do for your subscribers.
Give em hell BigD! Little guy stepped up and whooped up on it! Pretty game for a small form factor amp! Impressive, most impressive!👍🏻👏🤘😱
Now Orion needs a mini amp to bitchslap sundown again
Ha!
They sure do place a lot of caps in that little thing!! Neat little amp!!!
More caps than south central LA on Sat night
I have used 4 models of the NVX micro amps...no complaints, great amps. I would like to try the Sundown
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great video Big D thanks for always pushes the ohms loads I be so geek to see those numbers 😆!!!!!!
Impressive. My main criticism would be the two fuses inside the amp. Amp no worky, you have to take it apart to diagnose.
dude he ran it at .5 ohms. When it isn't rated for less than 1 ohm those fuses didn't blow. Also you have to take every amp apart to diagnose
@@shonuff7317 Sorry, but I'm pretty sure that there have been plenty of amplifiers that have had fuses that didn't require one to open them up to figure out whether or not a fuse had blown - like almost every one I've ever owned - ever. Carver, Soundstream, PPI, even Pyramid... Not one required me to take it apart to determine the problem. And that doesn't take into account all the amps I sold and installed from 1992-1999. But, what do I know? 😉
Kramit The Frog I don't know how you can see blown caps and things of that nature (internal parts) if that .5 ohm didn't blow those fuses I just doubt highly I would blow them at 1 ohm which it is recommended for
@@shonuff7317 Generally, a fuse should blow before a cap. And, generally, one will smell magic smoke (and maybe hear it) when a cap blows. Any way you slice it, a blown fuse - especially one that is not internal - is easier to diagnose when one doesn't need to dismount an amp and then take it apart in order to do a simple fuse replacement, which is more likely than a blown cap. After all, the purpose of a fuse is to avoid blowing caps or other surface-mounts.
I have literally sold a couple thousand amps and I'm an MECP-certified installer, FWIW. I tend to think I might have a good grasp about that which I speak.
Bobby is a boss at making boxes man. I'm jelly about that box and 12.
Another great little amp with honest advertisement, way to go sundown! 👍 And even tho it costs more than the skar mini amp, you get more. Great video once again brother 👍
This has to be the most power coming from the smallest amp I've seen. I can't believe it did over rated power.
Not bad. These are perfect for vehicles that have limited space but I wonder how the heat affects this unit if that small space doesn't allow much cooling. Hell i would try this hidden in my 2010 MKX on a single 6.5" or 8" subwoofer in a custom box
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I'll rather get the skar audio sk 500 watt amp same size $119
Or even a wolfram amp :)
Or even a hifonics bxx
Reminds me of the Blade amps of the late 90s. All this little guy needs is a simple fan.
sundown is dope, but they really gotta work on keeping their website updated. They've had products out for months without updating the website descriptions.
You should do the Sam 65.4 too, I'm curious to see how it performs
Love this amp, got it last year and I looked everywhere for an amp dyno on it, so thanks Big D Wiz.
I love your videos i actually bought a fosgate prime R500x1D that you tested and liked and i was impressed with it and i couldnt be happier. Keep up the great videos
And here I sat thinking you were going to tell us this is a marine amp - considering the coating on the board. Impressive little amp either way.
I think you just helped Sundown sell a bunch of those little amps... I'm thinking of where I could use one lol👍
Nice video Derrick. Quite the little package, and great accurate rated specs.
Sweet little amp. Extremely tiny, and does it's power. Way to go Big D. Nice video 👍
Thanks bro. This is so small, I could fit a few of these under my dash reducing the need for a full installation.
I bet it's sturdy af like all other Sundown amps.
Still beating on my 2500D v1's every day, never skipped a beat. (smooth pun 😆)
There is more circuitry on this amp than I’ve seen on amps like dual, Pyle, pyramid, etc.
Just wanted to say I do love your music selection, DJ Magic Mike is awesome, and I still bump him in my ride all the time, but how bout my favorite track when testing or showing out on the streets, Power Supply - Track 6 Woofer Excursion Test
This amplifier comes in the Single Sub Starter Kit on Down4Sound. It’s fun. I was looking for this video when I bought it, but didn’t look hard enough. My remote knob went kaput shortly after purchase, but the car got wrecked before I could replace it. It also came with a 4AWG wiring kit.
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It's not hard to make an amp waterproof.. it really isn't .. I've done it . This is a great amp
As always thank you for another great video. Nice lil amp. But for a few dollars more I can easily get into a 1200 watt amp or better.
Great if you drive a very small car.
Size matters. Small is mo expensive yo
Size does matter and it seems to be better priced compared to Brazilian amps of similar power.
Wait!!!! ✋this was uploaded 1 day ago but @6:18 you showed the results from a year ago 1/18/19 🤔 or did you put the wrong year 😅. Thanks for the information tho. I may get that amp for my IS.
DC Audio and some others do not have a the micro amps on deck But I have the Skar skm-500 and these things are very powerful for its size. They all puts out there RMS power with no problem at all.
That's a little BEAST Awesome so cool
Looking at the PCB at the 11:50ish mark, it looks to be coated.
I noticed that when editing. Wouldn’t you think they would note that in the specs?
@@wal More than likely they don't want to put it out there as marine capable unless they're damn sure it'll hold up. I think that the one thing Sundown cares more about than anything else is quality and reliability.
time to insulate the garage door
Yes! I need to research this. It sounds horrible!
That crazy for that little amp to out out that power and at 1 Ohm, little high on price but if you don't have a lot room this would be pretty good choice.
1. It’s not a garage, it’s THE LAB! 🔬
2. Big D Wiz would’ve just thrown a $1 bill next to the tiny amp, but Derek is SOOOO FANCY! Same size, right?
3. Great vid as always!
BTW, how’s that wall-o-shame coming? I got a potential candidate for ya. 🙅🏾♂️
Wall o shame is coming!!
to me Alpine MRV-M500 still the 500w king
That amp is awesome you can hide it easily it might have a switch in it to stop current overdraw. Love your videos.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
You need to add some pink/blue foam board to your garage door.
The "notes" in most rap type music are sine waves. A better test to see how good the amplifier's damping and control over cone movement would be something that has well recorded kick drum hits or synth hi-q hits. But most looking at this just want something that can make noise. Imagine a dragon farting in a small room! ;)
Another thing to remember at 75% efficiency (1OHM) 25% power (~140W) is HEAT. This TINY amp has a very limited surface area to dissipate that much power. In other words, the fucker will get really hot quick if you're doing more than simple 50Hz burps.
p.s. a speaker is a reactive load. ;)
Think of the technology it took to do this? Nice. I wish there was an actual way to measure headroom quality. Thanks D.
I measure the space above my head in the car = Headroom. Ha ha that’s a big dummy for you
So annoying how SMD made that power button on your amp dyno be upside down.
Up is supposed to be ON.
Down is supposed to be OFF.
Been that way for 100+ years on testing equipment.
I’m sure I could turn it, but it’s much more fun to annoy people with the simple things 🤣
These little amps are amazing. I still have the older m450 version of that alpine and it’s never missed a beat. I would definitely look at this, the skar or nvx if I had to replace it though
the skar has a malfunction... 5001d.. dont buy that... itll get super hot in mins, just being powered on, then go into protect over and over, while being so hot ya cant touch it....
Can you man one video with all the best amps? Best watts for bucks
07:20 You read it wrong,the 16 caps are 330 uf not 3300 uf ; that gives a total of 5280 uf, just above the bare minimum.
it looks like there is a coating on the board so i'm sure it's 'marine certified'
It is not listed anywhere in the manual, but if it is that’s awesome
Need some bass Matt on your garage.
Dam that shit be bumping.
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@@wal The door motor will go into protect, too much load!
I’m loving the amp technology out now!! Nice custom 12 tell us more bout it. One day I like to see bass boost eliminated from amp and clip lights should be standard.
BigD do the Skar SKm 500.1d for a comparison
Great vid Big D 👏👏👏👏👏
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a good amp will cost you at least $1.00 per watt, clean watts that is. not everyone likes that kind of bass, muddy bass. Some of us like solid hard hitting double bass drums or bad ass bass guitar. you know the type that hits you like a sledgehammer. but i like what your doing keep it up, knowledge is power.
where are you getting that this amp sounds bad? if you're judging by the video you really cant, also most of the sound quality you're gonna get is in the box not the amp.
@@haydenwiseman3056 was not talking about the amp but the music being played. That god awful muddy bass. Doesn't have any soul to it. But that's just me.
@@user-lw2po6lu3k oh ok I see. Yea I completely agree. Those songs are just used because there's a lot of bass for the video not because it is a good song
"a good amp will cost you at least $1.00 per watt" No.Just,no.Maybe a really super great amp will.
@@FATMIKED5183 well close. I have a sundown sfb 3000 which cost 350. I think the taramps are 279 and make about 2900 is I remember right.
You’re not getting cheaper than that really
Watching the Distortion light on the amp dyno. It doesn't seem to have clean power to 1% THD.
Oh snap! I saw this on D4S but I will be using your Amazon affiliate link for sure until D4S sets you up with one. I want to get one just S&G's. Perfect timing to see a dyno test. Thanks.
I wish D4S would do affiliate linking.
@@wal My bad I forgot to say I'll be using your Amazon link. I'll edit.
Good review! I’ve have one of these sitting in the box in my office for a few months now waiting to go in my ‘60 Cad. I will be using it to drive a sundown x6.5 in a slot ported enclosure. Hopefully it provides decent enough power at 4 ohms to the 300w rated driver.
Very good performance but not a good value. At these power levels who is actually running 1 ohm loads? In addition, at 1 ohm, with the components packed so tight with no fan it will suffer from overheating. Unless it is used in a motorcycle, this amp loses to the Alpine and many others in its power range that can be had for much less money.
@yes yes. I run a soundstream Picasso nano pn1 650d. It's $99 on ebay right now. I've had good experience with it's predecessor and both are still running strong. The alpine mrv 500 big d showed is also good if you can find it.
We were just saying the same thing up higher in the thread. It's gonna get crazy hot. Def can get better for the money.
@yes Kenwood Exceleon 500.1 / Rockford Prime 500.1 / Alpine 500.1 are all stupid good. I personally have the Kenwood Excelon 500.1 👍
Maybe not officially marine certified, but the board DOES have a clear conformal coating protecting it. Just shows they cared a little, for example, even Apple products don't even do that. Maybe you could silicone seal the end-caps on. The downside to this amp I see is maybe those cheap "Cap-top" capacitors are the failure point, either from heat (being so close right next to the MOSFETs), or from the electrolytic vent not being protected from humidity.
Always love your vids big d wiz!
Awe yeah dawg! Thanks again for getting Gately on board with the box. It is the coolest ever!
Good Siri you just sold an amp that lil thing is sweet
How come we never c the settings on amp when playing an testing them
Awwww look at tha Lil baby awww 🥰 so cute 😎
Real mosfets, not a chip amp at that size, and does ratings? It's awesome. Way too expensive for 500w, but aside from that it's a wicked little guy. Killin it as always BigD. Hey, between the transistors and that aluminum transfer block thing, there's a pad, you think it's good enough or one should smear both sides of the pad in computer thermal paste (non conductive, those pads are there for electrical isolation sometimes)? I got some stuff recently that have the same cooling thing going on and I'm not sure if it's worth the effort taking everything apart and adding paste or if the difference isn't there/or maybe worse? If I had a thermal probe and lots of time I would stick it to the metal part of the transistor and measure temps at static loads between pasted pad and how it comes. But I can't do that.
Love the channel. Awesome review
Thanks for watching and commenting!
The Rockford T-500bdcp...Which is trending on eBay right now for $224 would smoke this thing in every ohm load and be more efficient.
Definitely
@@chicoredd7414 no it wouldn't
It "might" be time to upgrade to an insulated garage door. Lol.
Great video as always, keep up the good work.
Gotta keep it insulated
For the money id rather go for Rockford fosgate. Especially the prime 5001d. Got one on ebay fir 84 bucks. 84 vs 200 watt difference is what maybe 20 30 watts
Check what each one actually does before making that comparison lol
Slomar V2 All RF amps make rated numbers since the 80s bro so it’s a good buy.
Is the rpime the same size?If not,it's irrelevant.
This test even disturbed my neighbors. Lol
Perfect for three 6.5 or 8’s
You can get some garage insulation foam to stop a lot of the rattling.... fit in the door sections.
Hey will.I believe 209 bucks is too much to pay for 500 watts.I got 2400 watts with wolfram for 199 at one time.(Over 2400 uncertified)
Way over priced🤔😂😂🤣🤣🙄🙄🗣️
Its sundown everything they sell is over priced
Power isnt only what makes a good amp.
@@trudeaumustgo1920 I agree but Im talking about the price Not the quality.
I'm sold!!!!!🔊🔊🔊🔊🔊🤯🤯
Time to insulate your garage door Lowe’s sells the kit
That's a badass lil amp
Another great video. Thanks. What a great little amp. Sheesh.